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Speaker 1: get out on the Giants mable give me some Joe.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Giants Huddle podcast, brought to you by Citizens,

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Speaker 2: the Week six rapid Reaction mattelen Burke, along with the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion Sean O'Hara's the Giants fell to the

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Speaker 2: visiting Bengals seventeen to seven on Sunday Night Football And Shawn,

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Speaker 2: when you look at the way that this one started,

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Speaker 2: you know, Joe Burrow a forty seven yard touchdown run,

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Speaker 2: a career long for him, you think, oh no, another

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Speaker 2: one of these games. But we've seen games like that

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Speaker 2: before this season, where a play doesn't go your way

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of the game. The Giants are resilient.

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Speaker 2: They turn it around. This one not the story. The

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Speaker 2: defense played well, but the offense couldn't put points on

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Speaker 2: the board.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Giants ever recovered from that Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow touchdown run. It's almost like they could not just

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Speaker 1: get back into sync. You know, obviously you score seven

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Speaker 1: points at home you're not gonna win a lot of

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Speaker 1: football games. And that's really what's so maddening right now

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Speaker 1: is that this offense is just stuck in neutral.

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Speaker 3: You might even call it reverse, but.

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Speaker 1: It's self inflicted wounds, turnovers down in the red zone,

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Speaker 1: things that you know you can't do, and yet we

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Speaker 1: keep seeing it happen week in and week out. At

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Speaker 1: some point, they've got to stop the bleeding. At some point,

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Speaker 1: they've got to turn it around. And you know, when

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Speaker 1: you hold the Cincinnati Bengals the seventeen points and really

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Speaker 1: seven of that team at the very end of the game,

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Speaker 1: that's a phenomenal performance by the defense.

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Speaker 3: You should be walking.

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Speaker 1: Out of the stadium with your head health high, saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: look our defense balled out. They should have been the

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Speaker 1: story of the game, and instead it was this futured

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Speaker 1: offense right now that just cannot seem to get right.

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Speaker 1: Even without my league neighbors, without Devin Singletary, they had

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Speaker 1: chances to win this game. They had chances to score points,

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Speaker 1: and they just they made mistakes, mental mistakes, physical mistakes,

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Speaker 1: missing field goals, Like you can't have that. It's dysfunctional

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Speaker 1: football offensively, and it's a shame because it basically, you know,

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Speaker 1: it just basically negates a wonderful defensive performance. I think

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Speaker 1: shame Bowen. We should be talking about the game plan

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Speaker 1: that he had. Jamar Chase was the most doubled receiver

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Speaker 1: in the league coming to this game, and they shut

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Speaker 1: him down, like defensively, we should be giving them credit.

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Speaker 1: We should be giving them flowers for how well they

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Speaker 1: got after Joe Burrow. They sacked them four times, you

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Speaker 1: know it was. It was really a good physical performance

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Speaker 1: with no Keevan Thibodeau who was put on IR earlier

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Speaker 1: this this week. I thought Azizo Jalai really stepped up.

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Speaker 1: That was big. Burns had a big game, great, big,

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Speaker 1: great game from Tyler Nuban, Michael mcfadd and Bobby o'caag

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Speaker 1: get forced another fumble, so all the players with their

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Speaker 1: defensively to win the game, and they just came up

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Speaker 1: score again because the offense is dysfunctional right now, and.

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Speaker 2: The one offensive score came as a result of a

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Speaker 2: defensive play. The defense force of fumble recovered it and

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Speaker 2: the offense was able to get down the field score

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Speaker 2: a touchdown. Tyron Tracy a one yard rushing touchdown that

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Speaker 2: drive to Brian Dable was aggressive with it. It was

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Speaker 2: a third quarter. He was like, no, we're going to

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Speaker 2: go for it on fourth down. They had two fourth

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Speaker 2: when you think about how effective the running game was

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Speaker 2: look at the fact that, Okay, the Giants rushed for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you go into a game wanting

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Speaker 3: That's what ended up happening.

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Speaker 1: But they I felt like they could have fed Tyron

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Speaker 1: just it just feels like they're taking the wrong times

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Speaker 1: You know, look, Daniel Jones made some good throws, made

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Speaker 1: like it's not so much aggressive as much as it's desperate,

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Speaker 3: You saw him kind of going up tempo.

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Speaker 1: They're trying offensively to get out of this funk and

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Speaker 1: I don't follow them for any of that. I just

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Speaker 4: You're ready for a change. Pay Day comes early with citizens,

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Speaker 4: So go to that retreat. Knew you moves to the country.

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Speaker 4: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are

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Speaker 4: you ready for all that? Life breaks.

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Speaker 2: Right and going forward did inspire some sparks and has

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Speaker 2: created in games past and in tonight's game a little

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Speaker 2: little bit too Special Teams. Greg Joseph missing two field

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Speaker 2: goals is tough. It's tough to see that happen in

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Speaker 2: It's a very different tone of a game when you're

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Speaker 2: seventeen to seven. But the Giants are in this and

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Speaker 2: you know it's ten to seven. Greg Joseph misses a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you miss a field goal like that and

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Speaker 1: It was kind of like, oh man, here we go.

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Speaker 1: We're going to find another way to lose this game.

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Speaker 1: And the Giants every week. They're inventing new ways to lose,

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Speaker 1: and it's frustrating. It's maddening. You know, you look at

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Speaker 3: And yet when you're.

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Speaker 1: Make a field goal, then the next time you're a

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Speaker 3: And then now may you are.

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Speaker 1: Playing a little bit sideways on that. But it's it's

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Speaker 1: know this game, the Washington game. You know, if Graham

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Speaker 1: of that is totally different. So you know, you look

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Speaker 1: at those two games in itself, it could be a

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Speaker 3: But you're two and four. You got to you got

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and like you mentioned, you know the punting, the

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Speaker 2: If you look at just the stats without the final score,

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the two penalties. One of those penalties was

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Speaker 1: it's it happened on an RPO, which is basically you

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Speaker 3: That was huge.

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Speaker 1: That was a huge momentum. I mean, the place was

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Speaker 1: to walk out Super Bowl forty two and forty six

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Speaker 1: teams and the place goes nuts and everybody's you know, celebrating,

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Speaker 1: and then you hear you pill you on flag flag.

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Speaker 1: That was so deflating and something as simple as that.

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Speaker 1: I don't fault Andrew Thomas for that. That's not his fault.

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Speaker 1: that's just bad football right there, and they gate a

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Speaker 3: Right now.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for.

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Speaker 3: All that life brings?

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Speaker 2: And it's tough to have a performance like this, a

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Speaker 2: loss like this in a night that you mentioned super

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Speaker 2: Bowl teams. You know that those seven and eleven Super

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Speaker 2: celebrate their one hundred season, You've got a lot of

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Speaker 2: and you want to see the knights that they're celebrating

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Speaker 2: the history of the Giants having something to celebrate in

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Speaker 2: the present.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be nice, you know, when you're here

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Speaker 1: and you're you're kind of, you know, getting back together

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Speaker 1: with some of your former teammates. It's tough to watch

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Speaker 1: bad football, and it's tough to watch a team struggle

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Speaker 1: through it, and at the same time, we've been there,

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Speaker 1: like you know what, Yeah, sure we won the championships

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Speaker 1: and it's it's hard, but you got to fight your

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Speaker 1: way somehow to overcome it. You know, They're not a

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Speaker 1: bad football team, You're just sometimes good football teams.

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Speaker 3: Play bad ball and that's what they got to eliminate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and they've got a good football team coming

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Speaker 2: to MetLife next week because of course the Giants turning

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Speaker 2: the page to Week seven and back at MetLife Stadium,

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Speaker 2: this one not in primetime, a one o'clock matchup with

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Speaker 2: Week six, and this is going to be an emotional

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Speaker 1: Seawan, I think it's going to be really interesting to

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Speaker 3: You know, I know the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: The hatredy for the Eagles runs deep in this building,

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Speaker 1: and we haven't played well against them over the past

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Speaker 1: you hope that you know, that trend doesn't doesn't change

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Speaker 1: I think the big challenge really is defensively, can you

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's you know, he's an exposive player. You know,

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Speaker 1: for the Eagles, it's not just about saguon ag Brown's back.

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Speaker 3: He had a monster game.

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Speaker 1: Devonte Smith is a handful and Jalen hurts you know

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Speaker 1: The question is can the offense find a way to

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? And can the offense score some points? Will the

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Speaker 2: Neighbors is clear to return from concussion protocol again. He

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Speaker 2: and will the Giants be healthy? Of course, Andrew Thomas

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Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously Andrew Thomas a big concern. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: not sure when that impacted him and how it's going

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Speaker 1: think also like offensively, what are you trying to be? Like,

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Speaker 1: Tyrone Tracy is electric. He's got a lot of juice

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Speaker 1: this offense. Even if they haven't seen with Herry's back,

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Speaker 1: Tracy's got a little bit of that in factor and

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Speaker 1: he can't touch the ball enough.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and we'll see how it all goes down. Week seven,

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Speaker 2: back at MetLife Stadium as the Giants host the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: rap on Week six as the Giants fall to the

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