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Speaker 1: Hey y'all. So it's summer, right and and people are

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Speaker 2: But I unfortunately had to reschedule our date and so,

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Speaker 2: I think I would have been like, thank you so

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Speaker 2: But when you just make your own grand escape from

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Speaker 1: It's like that to keep persuing weird, Like, isn't that

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Speaker 1: What was he going to do? I don't understand this

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Speaker 3: It was going to happen eventually exactly right.

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Speaker 1: He turned out to be a stalker because we went

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Speaker 1: I walked into the market and I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bougie and I'm honest with that. This

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Speaker 1: He was like I was in this one episode at

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: Mind you, I had just met Jessica people. He didn't

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Speaker 3: He found me.

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Speaker 1: You were? You were like, carry, we have a problem.

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Speaker 3: That took some real research.

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Speaker 2: That took some real like investigative journalism, Like I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: and every jack needs a jill. Every jill needs a jack.

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Speaker 1: I was like, you can't be that way, No, So

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, girl, I'm gonna see you in London.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a good time. We're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: Bachelor number two, Oh, what a wonderful person. First of all,

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Speaker 2: You gotta bat them off with. It's like a fly swater.

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Speaker 2: You're like, I can't even go down the block without

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Speaker 2: to move to London. Well, I think I might have

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Speaker 2: But out of all the gentlemen, I went on several

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Speaker 3: Now you did not put We've moved on and now

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Speaker 1: Number two, so said.

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Speaker 2: So I had several dates in London. They were amazing.

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Speaker 2: charged situation.

437
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 1: And the next day check what was the racially charged situation?

438
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, there was this gentleman who decided to

439
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 2: spew racial slurs at me and call me out of

440
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 2: my name walking out of the SOHO house and shortage

441
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 2: and you know, the PG County and me was shocked

442
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 2: and stunned. And when I got outside is when I

443
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 2: confronted him about his disgusting behavior and just had to

444
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 2: let him know, like, don't you ever talk to black

445
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 2: queen like that again, because I'm not the one, or

446
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: the two or the three. So this gentleman came in

447
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 2: between this feud and told the guy flat out like

448
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: you're disrespectful, you're wrong, and just came to my rescue.

449
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: And I felt wonderful.

450
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 3: It was wonderful. I felt very valued, I felt appreciated.

451
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: I felt protected because I'm in this country that you

452
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 2: know by myself. You know, I've only been there once before,

453
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 2: and it was like late at night, and I've never

454
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 2: had somebody like attack me verbally with like with racial undertones,

455
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: like really racist undertones. So it was a very vulnerable moment.

456
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 2: And so he invited me out to brunch the next

457
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 2: day just to check on me, make sure I was good.

458
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 2: But this is the day of our concert. So at

459
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 2: brunch we have a really good energy, a good vibe.

460
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 2: He's so sweet to me, so nice, and then he

461
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: wanted to spend more time, and I'm like, listen, I

462
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: have to get a bottle of ove for Carrie and

463
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: ized car ride to the concert because we're having a

464
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 2: party in the car.

465
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're having an uber party.

466
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 5: Guys.

467
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: We're driving safely. We are not drinking. I mean we're

468
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: not driving. We're being chauffeured around by this great, lovely

469
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: uber guy and we need some champagne. That makes perfect sense.

470
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: Go ahead, But yes, we.

471
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: Don't drink and drive over here. Oh no, we don't

472
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 3: do that. You can't. Life is so important. Don't drink

473
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 3: and drive PSA.

474
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So he does the nicest things, like I'll go

475
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: upstairs to get dressed in my hotel. He's like, I

476
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 2: will give you a bottle for you and your friend.

477
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: When I come down, he has another drink waiting for me.

478
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: Doing all the things. Met me back in my part

479
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 2: of town after the concept. Remember he spent the night.

480
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: No hanky panky, guys, no hanky panky, but he spent

481
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: the night.

482
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 1: You just did an adult You did an adult friendly sleepover,

483
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: which people do often exactly.

484
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 3: Oh no, right, adult.

485
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you didn't want to do

486
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 1: just an adult friendly sleepover, that's fine too. I mean

487
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 1: you're good and grown, like you pay your bills in

488
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: your taxes. Go ahead.

489
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 2: So then we went out on a few more days

490
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: after that, because I was there a couple more days,

491
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: like a day or two.

492
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: He wanted to see me again, took me to dinner

493
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 3: and on my lafe.

494
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: Wait a second, so he's just really into you. I

495
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: want to make sure. I mean to keep putting you off,

496
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: but he's really into you, and he wants to see

497
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: you while you're in London. By this time I had left.

498
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: I had a quick stay. I was in and out,

499
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: and you were in the city and you were being

500
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: romanced by this lovely gentleman who was like your night

501
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: in shining.

502
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 3: Armor, yes, with a great accent.

503
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: And then my last night after dinner, he spent the

504
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: night again, no hanky panky. But in the middle of

505
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 2: the night I felt I just get a little restless

506
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: at times. So I rolled over and I slowly opened

507
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: my eyes just you know, four in the morning. And

508
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I saw it, because this is

509
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: what I said to you. I think I saw something,

510
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 2: but I don't know if I actually saw the something.

511
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 2: But what I think that I saw that I might

512
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: have really seen was him sucking his thumb.

513
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 1: You see what now? What was he doing?

514
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: So what I said was is that I may have.

515
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 2: Potentially kind of seen him kind of sucking his thumb

516
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: and metal position. And I said, no, I closed my.

517
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 3: I see no evil.

518
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: I said no. Wait wait, you said no, enclose your

519
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: eyes tight because you were hoping it was a fathom

520
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: of your imagination, of your imagine, Karry.

521
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 3: You know, I thought I was dreaming.

522
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: There's no possible way. It wasn't possible. But no, because

523
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: I closed my eyes just really quickly, like lord, I'm

524
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: not doing this. Why you got jokes up there? You

525
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: got some jokes upstairs by the god. But I said,

526
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: I could I.

527
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: Give my version of this story. I'd like to give

528
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: my version because I really want to be naked. So

529
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: Jessica meets this guy and she's like, Yo, he's great,

530
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: he's this, he's that. I'm like, oh, I was like, good,

531
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: tell me about him. So we get back from London

532
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: and I was like, girl, and I talked to her

533
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: at the airport. She was like, I'm leaving tomorrow, but

534
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: he's so great. We had a good time. She's still

535
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: excited about him. I noticed maybe the exciting went from

536
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: a ten plus to maybe an eight plus. But she's

537
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: still excited about this young lad. And so she gets

538
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: back home. We're in Brooklyn. We're chilling and I'm like, oh, so,

539
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: what's going on with London because everyone has a name.

540
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: And she's like, well, I'm going to tell you something.

541
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: And I said, what's going on?

542
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking the worst? Listeners, I'm thinking the worst,

543
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: and she's like, he's nice. I don't know. I you know,

544
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: it's probably just me, because this is how sweet she is.

545
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: She goes, it's probably just me. I don't know if

546
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: this happened or not. It probably didn't, but something happened

547
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: at night, and now I'm even going to even worse,

548
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, we about to hop on the flight

549
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: and caught a cops like did he try to assault you?

550
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: Was he doing something perverted? What did he do with disgusting?

551
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: And she's like, well, I'm not for sure, Lie number one.

552
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: I'm not for sure. I think maybe, but I don't know.

553
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: It could be just me. Lie number two. She's putting

554
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: it on her. She was like, I turn over and

555
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: I think but it was dark, Lie number three, it

556
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: was dark, and I think he might have been sucking

557
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: his thumb. And I was like, I wouldn't even let

558
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: her finish it.

559
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 3: I just said, you said, like sixty tis.

560
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: Because she was making it. And she was like, it

561
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: probably was me. I did have my glasses on. I

562
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: was closing my eyes really tight. I popped them open

563
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: again and then I opened them one more time and

564
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: it was nothing there, and then back again. I closed

565
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: them and then I opened them and I closed them

566
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: and I opened them and yeah, so it might have

567
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: been me. I was like, if you think you saw

568
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: this forty year old man sucking his thumb, you did

569
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: see him sucking his thumb. How do you want to proceed? Now?

570
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 5: What is that?

571
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: I hope listen, I have no work.

572
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 3: I was going to give it, you know, Carrie, you

573
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: know me. I like people. I'd like to accept people

574
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: as they are.

575
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: You do. And you said at the beginning of the podcast, Lord,

576
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: whoever comes my way, I'm dating them, and I'm not

577
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: because I'm looking for love and I'm not going to

578
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: be picky. That was your intention, that was my.

579
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: Intention, and I was so adamant and I said, okay,

580
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: now if that's just a sleep thing, right, I don't

581
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: okay it As we discussed, you know, it made other

582
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: things a little bit more obvious as to why they

583
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: were those things.

584
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: Such as.

585
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: Well, you know, there was a little bit of a

586
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: tooth that just protruded it slightly forward, just to tinge

587
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: and so I speak, just pinch, you know, and listen,

588
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: I teeth is you know, we could fix that, that's easy.

589
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: But you see, okay, So do you see how sweet

590
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: sheee is? Everybody? This is why I love being around

591
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: her because she will find redeeming qualities. She's a problem solver.

592
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: She does it for a living. She's going to do

593
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: it in her personal life too. And only reason why

594
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: I kept saying uh was because I was like, why

595
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: are you blaming yourself for what you actually saw? You're like, well,

596
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: maybe it was me. I wasn't sleeping well in London.

597
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: We've been out all night. I'd been hanging out late.

598
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: I blinked my eyes. Things were different when I opened

599
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: them again, Like you were coming up with every excuse

600
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: because you want to You wanted to date him because

601
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: he was a nice guy, right, Why why is thumb

602
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: sucking a deal breaker for a grown man? I'm curious

603
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: what were your thoughts? What did that tell you?

604
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: So I happen?

605
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: Are we vain?

606
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 4: Vain?

607
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: Maybe slightly? Not really because I was open then, but

608
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: you know what it was? It was so this is

609
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: what it was, is that talking to you? I must

610
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: have been talking to you about this because it wasn't

611
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: so much. It took me a minute to process that

612
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: because I have a delayed a mode of response. But

613
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: it wasn't so much the act of thumb sucking.

614
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: It's why.

615
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: A grown man is sucking his thumb.

616
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: Are their mommy issues, are their child abandonment issues, and

617
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: those things are going to manifest themselves later in life,

618
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: Which is I think you actually are the one that

619
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: gave me that advice and was like, listen, friend, listen,

620
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: this is indicative of something bigger than the act itself.

621
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: Maybe, so we're going to you came up. You were like,

622
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: maybe we can put some hot sauce on his thumb,

623
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: Like you were ready to go back to London and

624
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: put some hot sauce on his thumb.

625
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: I put some hot sauce on his thumb, maybe a

626
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: soft on his hand. You know, I feel like those

627
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: are really affective strategies to break. I mean, the two

628
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: year olds can break out of sucking thumbs. Why can't

629
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: a forty year old.

630
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: I Now, I'm just curious. These are just things that

631
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm just like. And again, here's what you said. You said, God,

632
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: I don't care what he looks like because all he

633
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: loves me, and God is testing you and he's seeing

634
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: whether or not you believe that. Do you care what

635
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: they look like? No?

636
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 5: No?

637
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So here's my perspective, right, So it's a

638
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: combination of the energy, because the energy is like key,

639
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: like I have to get along with you. You got

640
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: to make me laugh, like there has to be some something,

641
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: and then I have to be attracted to you. Now,

642
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: do my friends think every man that I've dated on

643
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: the planet is attractive? Of course, absolutely not. But I

644
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: have to be attracted to them, you know. And it's

645
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: not perfection. I'm never I think people who are like

646
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: too perfect, like men who are too perfect, I don't know.

647
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: I get a little bit anxious around that. But you know,

648
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: everybody has something, and that's like my philosophy is like

649
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: I have my things. Everybody has something, so try to

650
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: look past that if the energy is good. But I'm

651
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: learning through this process of just saying yes to every

652
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: single person that comes my way that I can't look

653
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: past everything, and there's this level of discernment that I

654
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: have to have right and question the why behind things.

655
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: And also like looks are in everything, that there's something,

656
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: they are something you know they.

657
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: Have to be. Yeah, you want to you want to

658
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: be attracted. And by the way, men would even have

659
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: this conversation, men are so and I don't want to

660
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: say all men, but a lot of men are just

661
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: really vain and they'd be like, oh, no, I'm not

662
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: feeling what her because whatever, I don't know. Here's the deal.

663
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: Though I don't necessarily think a man would be unattracted

664
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: to a woman issue sector thumb. I think I think that,

665
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think that something childlike, infantile like, rather

666
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: even for that matter, is a turn off for a

667
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: woman who's looking to be taken care of, looking not

668
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: by financially, but like I need a man like you

669
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: gotta financially take care of me. But can are you

670
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: going to secure with them? If we get into a fight,

671
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: a street fight, walknu stream Brooklyn, somebody, try to get

672
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: it what you're gonna do? Pop it in like it

673
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: just meant more. And I hate that we're bringing this light.

674
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: But I'm sure we're not the only ones. I'm sure

675
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: other people feel this way. So God is like, all right,

676
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring you a guy who's nice and and funny,

677
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: but he was embarrassed to tell you about his situation,

678
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: so he covered his face with a wine glass. And

679
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: then you meet another guy and he's super sweet and

680
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: he's handsome, and he's doing all the things, and he

681
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: saved your life. Why do you think you woke up

682
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: in the middle of night and looked over like, don't

683
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: you think that I said, if you would have slept

684
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: through the night, you wouldn't have known. What do you

685
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: think that means?

686
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: My grandmother warned me. She was like, girl, wake up.

687
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: That's what I think.

688
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: June Lennard was like, baby, wake up.

689
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: The ancestors woke you up. My ancestors woke you up

690
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: and was like, take a look around.

691
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: Take a look around. Since the girl take a look.

692
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm kidding.

693
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: I think I also know.

694
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: I mean you never know. I swear there is no.

695
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: Reason I would have woken up in that moment and

696
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: then yeah, for him to remove his thumb and like

697
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: put his hand down because he felt me look or like.

698
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: That was just that was that was.

699
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: That was the ancestors. I can't tell you where I

700
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: woke up.

701
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: That's a revelation in our friendship, because remember you tried

702
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: to dance around it. I was like, did he did

703
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: he know you were looking? You're like, well, maybe not,

704
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: because you, like you wanted it to work. I was like,

705
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: he moved his you blinked your eyes and then he

706
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: moved his hand quickly, and I was like, how would

707
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: you do that unless he was away. I don't think

708
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: he was awake. Maybe I was imagining it because you

709
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: wanted it to work.

710
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 5: I did.

711
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: I did he was a nice guy, and I was like,

712
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 2: you know what if that's the only thing, But then again,

713
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: it could be indicative of more things, because it's never

714
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 2: just that. So I'm trying to learn, you know, see

715
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: the signs early, no matter what they look like, a

716
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: sign as a sign. But Lord have mercy, now that

717
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 2: one was that was an intentional way. There's no way

718
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 2: I would have woken.

719
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: Up it four am. Ever correct? Yeah? Correct? Okay?

720
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 3: Crazy.

721
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: So we get back stateside, we confess our secret. It

722
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: takes away its power because every time I kept asking

723
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: you about him, You're like, why, all right, here we go.

724
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: I have a confession. It probably was just me. I wasn't.

725
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't quite sure. I blinked and it was different.

726
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: It was probably me. I just ah, I think I

727
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: think I I think maybe I didn't see this. I

728
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: was like, no, Nigro, you saw it.

729
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 3: I was like, Carrie, I don't know. Do you think

730
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: I saw it?

731
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

732
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: It was an illusion, figment of my imagination. I was sleeping,

733
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: my eyes were closed really tight. Perhaps my contacts were

734
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 1: bothering me. I was like, no, I couldn't.

735
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: I just couldn't stop it. I just I couldn't I

736
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 3: couldn't come. I couldn't conjure up the courage or the words.

737
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: How do I see this?

738
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: How do I share this with my friend? How do

739
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 3: I how do I articulate this?

740
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: I love you so much, You're so so she is

741
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: the sweetest I cannot That is why I adore being

742
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: around her, because she's like, well, I don't really want

743
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: to she doesn't want to say anything bad about anybody.

744
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: I'd be talking smack about people all the time. She'd

745
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: be like Carrie, well, okay, you know, but so she

746
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: didn't want to say nothing bad about the guy because

747
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: he was a nice guy. Yeah, saved your life. Okay, So,

748
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: so have you talked to him since? How did you?

749
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: How did did that fall by the wayside? What happened

750
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: to Bachelor number two?

751
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: It fell by the wayside, you know, the time difference

752
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: and on a different continent.

753
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: You know, those are difficult things.

754
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 2: And then you know, I mean, it's summer, so life

755
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: has been life in life has been life in so yeah,

756
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: that fell by the wayside.

757
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm glad. I mean mess ain't glad.

758
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 3: I God makes no mistakes.

759
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 4: Every champion and car every champion has to be a

760
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 4: Championta Champion and carry Chappion and carry chat Champion and

761
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 4: carry chat.

762
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 5: Bean and carried ch greatest entertainment. Canke it work?

763
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 4: Karry Champion, the Cary Champion is to be a champion,

764
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 4: a champion and carrie Chapi and the Champion they carry Champion,

765
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: they carried Shepty.

766
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: So you're minding your business your state. Side you say

767
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: the truth. We go back out in these streets to

768
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: hang out and meet people, these vicious lonely streets that

769
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: I love so much in Brooklyn. And side note, we

770
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: go to I don't think I think it was the

771
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: NBA Draft party. We're going to get to Bachelor three

772
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: in a minute. But we go to the NBA Draft

773
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: party and we have been having a time and uh

774
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: my agency put it on and we go and it's

775
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: late and Jessica's still meeting the booze you got. We've

776
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: got two or three numbers at night. It's not like

777
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: you're not meeting guys. You were meeting guys. You met

778
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: remember the.

779
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: Guy, Yeah, you met Atlanta.

780
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: They mister Atlanta. And so she's meeting guys and I'm

781
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: just like, I'm tired, I'm ready to go home. I

782
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: go to work in the morning. I was going to

783
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: tell you about this young lady. I was like, I'm

784
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: getting ready to go. We hop in an uber and she,

785
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, bumped into some old flame I guess,

786
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: and he wants to hang out and we decide to

787
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: go back and hang out with him at a location,

788
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: and I don't really want to hang out with him.

789
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm tired. I want to go home and

790
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm done. Like, I'm like, okay, the match

791
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: is out, the fire, it's gone. I got to go home.

792
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: Jessica is in the uber giving this poor man four

793
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: or five different directions and he's getting so upset, and

794
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: she's yelling at the uber driver and I'm hollering because

795
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: we're ridiculous. It's like three in the morning in Brooklyn.

796
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: We are at the bridge. I make them pull over

797
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: because I'm about to take my own uber home. She's

798
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: heading back to where she lives. I'm gonna ta go

799
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: home my way, and she's like, we're not going to

800
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: leave you friend, We're gonna stay here, sir. Pull over.

801
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm paying for the maleage and I don't need your smack. Okay, sir, sir, sir, sir,

802
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: oh lord, and so so many uber in. So We're

803
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: having a good time and I'm laughing and I'm joking,

804
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: and then I get in my uber I think, what

805
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: a legendary night. This girl is so hilarious. We have

806
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: such a great time. But the gods are listening. And

807
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean, my timeline may be a little off, but

808
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: you meet a guy shortly thereafter London because she meets

809
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: the booze. You meet a guy Bachelor number three. Great,

810
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: tell what you want to tell about Bachelor number three

811
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: in whatever way you feel you're comfortable.

812
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: It's another DM, guys. I mean, honestly, I don't know

813
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: what's been going on with Instagram. I think I'm going

814
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: to get rid of it because this is just chaos.

815
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: I think, what is happening? I can't mind my business

816
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: and catch up on the Real Housewives without nonsense. So

817
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: it was another DM on a Friday night. I think

818
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: that I'm going to enjoy taigh food and just like

819
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: live my best life. But nope, God had different plans.

820
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: So a guy slides into my DMS. I see that

821
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: we have mutual friends, one of which or two of

822
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 2: which are my best friends, and another very close friend,

823
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: So of course I don't believe in stranger danger. You know,

824
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: I've been here before with Bachelor number one. There was

825
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: another He's not even a bachelor or a possibility, but

826
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: there was another situation and I'm just like, I'm just

827
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: not doing the DM. So I asked my friend, like,

828
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: who was this person? He gave me the green light.

829
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: We went to dinner. Friday night turned into six days.

830
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: Like.

831
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 3: The chemistry was right, he was cute. I was not well.

832
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that I preserved my thoughts,

833
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: but it was a vibe. We had an amazing time.

834
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: He was super We're no surprises. He didn't put a

835
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: wine glass in front of his face, he didn't pull

836
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: his thumb out of his mouth in the middle of

837
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,959
Speaker 1: the night. He was Everything was good. We're good, We're good.

838
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 3: Where hanging out.

839
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: He's was visiting, and so he stayed a little longer.

840
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: He you know, all his plans to change, they were

841
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: all me. It was great and we ended up dating right,

842
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: and because he lived in a different state, the next

843
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: time we saw each other, I went to see him right,

844
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: got to meet all the friends. Things are great, There's

845
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 2: a lot of intensity, there's just I get flowers. He

846
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: gives me my favorite roses, even when he was in

847
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: New York, like day three, I told him in a

848
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: casual conversation that my favorite flower is a white rose.

849
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 2: And like on day three when he was in New York,

850
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: I had a tough day at work, like he was texting,

851
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I had a tough day.

852
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 3: He shows up with like a dozen long stem white roses.

853
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 3: Just super nice. I know, I met his friends in

854
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 3: New York and in his state.

855
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: You know, he just really there was a bomb in

856
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: Gilead and you were like, finally, yeah, really.

857
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 3: I was so pleased. I was so happy. So we're

858
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 3: talking for a couple of months.

859
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: He you know, wanted to come visit me for another holiday,

860
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: and I was debating whether or not I should have

861
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: a barbecue for my family, not my family, for my friends.

862
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: He insisted on cooking for forty people. Right, there was

863
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: a lot of people. There was a good little handful

864
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: shop with me paid for half of that.

865
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: I mean, he was just great.

866
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: Another great week in the books. Everything's perfect. Everybody loved him.

867
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 3: He was amazing.

868
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 2: He invited his friends, you know, more of his friends,

869
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: which is great. And then we fast forward to a

870
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: couple of weeks after that.

871
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: So but for two months, you guys are hide and heavy.

872
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: Things are good relationships, great, You're making plans. You're making plans,

873
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: future plans, like like what you do for your birthday,

874
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: What I would do for my birthday, those kinds of plans,

875
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: not like get married plans.

876
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: But we were planning to go see our mutual friend

877
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: in La like it was like a thing. Like it

878
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: was a thing. It was a thing, and I enjoyed it.

879
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 3: It was a wonderful thing.

880
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: I was more vulnerable than I usually am because my therapist,

881
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: you know, coaches me through when I'm a bit uncomfortable

882
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 2: with certain things and helps me to communicate my feelings.

883
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: So I was a bit more vulnerable. I was very open.

884
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: He was as well.

885
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 2: It felt like we were on the same page until

886
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: the week that he was supposed to come see me,

887
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: because he asked me to get him tickets to a

888
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: particular concert through my connections. I did that, and that

889
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 2: week he completely ghosted me. He ghosted me, And thank

890
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: you for giving me the courage to be able to

891
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: stay my peace because like on the day that he

892
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: was supposed to have flown in which was like two

893
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: days after I stopped hearing from him, you told me

894
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: flat out. I was like, yeah, I'm not going to

895
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: say anything, and You're like, why not if you hurt

896
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: your feelings? Telling me hurt your feelings, Like, don't not

897
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: say anything.

898
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: So I did.

899
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: Still no response, but a lot of interesting things happened

900
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 2: after that, like he got rid of his entire Instagram page,

901
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: which is unusual, right, And then.

902
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 3: Today should I talk about today? Like what we saw today? Today?

903
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: He had re emerged on the Instagram. It's my Instagram

904
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: is dangerous and is looking at my stories now. I

905
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: went through a lot of frustration and pain for the

906
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: past couple of weeks because my feelings are hurt. Because

907
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: I really cared about this person. I felt like he

908
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: was genuine, he was honest. Because of our mutual friend,

909
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: like and how close that friend is to me, I

910
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: thought he would have approached this with some level of respect.

911
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 2: And we have history because I met him six years ago.

912
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: Apparently he worked on my campaign and you know, we reconnected.

913
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 2: So it's one of those things where I'm just kind

914
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: of still like, hmm, this is I don't know what's

915
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: going on. But the twenty twenty three version of me

916
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: is very much like, I'm very clear on what I

917
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: want in my life and what I don't want in

918
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: my life, and what I don't want in my life

919
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: is instability and chaos. And so because this person has

920
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: brought instability and chaos, he's not a person I can

921
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: a future with, you know. So I think that mentality

922
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: has helped me to kind of heal through this a

923
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: bit faster. And then great friends like Carry and a

924
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: great therapist like Kelly, because honestly, the old me would

925
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: have because I was triggered.

926
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 3: From past relationships which I told him about.

927
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: So I just felt really disrespected and I told him

928
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 2: that I feel disrespected, I feel rejected. This is not okay.

929
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: I don't deserve it the end, you know. But at

930
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 2: the end of the day, he's like, trying to look

931
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: at my stuff. So I don't know, I'm not what.

932
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: Do you mean, look at your stuff? It sounds sexual?

933
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 2: Oh no, look at my instant stories. I was like,

934
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: why are you all up in what I'm doing? And

935
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: when did you get back to Instagram? Welcome back?

936
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me summarize. You have these two interesting

937
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: dates and you're just like I'm just keep trying. I

938
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: want you guys to understand she's trying. She's like, I

939
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: love love, I'm not giving up. I'm gonna find me someone.

940
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: And then you meet this guy and you're like Heaven said,

941
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: You're like finally normal, like walks and talks, not odd,

942
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: not ghosting, being normal. You guys have two months of

943
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: a world win relationship. He comes to visit you, stays

944
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: with you for days at a time. You go to

945
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: visit him, stays with him for days at a time.

946
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: You guys are making plans together for his birthday and

947
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: your birthday. And he is waiting all of your friends.

948
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 1: He's cooking for all of your friends at a Fourth

949
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: of July barbecue. You are truly included, and he is

950
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: waiting on you. I witnessed hand and foot making sure

951
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: you're comfortable, making sure everybody else is comfortable. And I

952
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: could see that you really like this guy because he

953
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: was making an effort, and you're like, finally, I can

954
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: put my shoulders down, I can exhale, if I could

955
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: use a term from Terry McMillan, I can chill out.

956
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: He meets your sisters, he has interaction with them. He

957
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: is all of things. He's just showing up consistently, and

958
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: he says to you, Hey, I want to go to

959
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: this concert. I'll come back the Thursday before the concert

960
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: and hang out with you. So a week before the concert,

961
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: he just starts acting different, not returning your calls, completely

962
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: unusual for the last two months, not being open and transparent,

963
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: completely unusual from the last two months. And then he

964
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: just goes silent. And your last message to him before

965
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: telling him how you feel was like, hey, you still

966
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: coming to the concert?

967
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

968
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: Like did he reply?

969
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 3: No, not at all.

970
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: And he knows I'm a planner, like because what I

971
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 2: do for a living in because like, if you're staying,

972
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: he wanted to stay with me for eleven days, So

973
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: I need to like sort that out because I have life,

974
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: I have a dog.

975
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well dogs are humans. I know that.

976
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 5: No, you know.

977
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were going to let him stay with

978
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: you for eleven days. This is a relationship. Anybody can

979
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: stay with you more than a weekend, y'all. Y'all in it.

980
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: Eleven days, that's a long time, Okay.

981
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: I have anxiety about that, you know, I'm only gonna

982
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: have got Like even the first time I went to

983
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: go see him. I called my friend Holly on the

984
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 2: way to the airport and I'm like, girl, I don't

985
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: know if I could do this, Like this is like

986
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 2: six days with a person not in my own space

987
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 2: is going to be a challenge.

988
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 3: But I did it, you know, so yeah, it's great.

989
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: Why do you think.

990
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 3: That's a great question? I have no idea.

991
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 2: I mean, if I had to guess, it had test

992
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: to be another woman, right, So that's kind of what

993
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm thinking.

994
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 3: But you know, I don't want to make assumptions.

995
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: I feel really odd that now he's looking at my

996
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: stories because like why, I don't know.

997
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: I don't want people to having access to me, like

998
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: when they're not treating me well.

999
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: But who knows.

1000
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: It could be another woman. It could be a mental

1001
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: health thing which I would never want to make light of,

1002
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: or it could just be.

1003
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I've never been through this. I

1004
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 3: am at a loss.

1005
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: You here's what's interesting. Do you want him to reach

1006
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: out to you? No?

1007
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 3: Because I feel like, at this point, like, what are

1008
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: you really going to say?

1009
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: Because I've gone through my grieving and my healing from this,

1010
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: because it was so like pull the carpet from under

1011
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: my feet, like I had to catch myself, and now

1012
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: that I've caught myself, you know, I don't want to

1013
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: fall back into the chaos. And it's kind of like

1014
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: whatever he has to say, I'm not sure I would

1015
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: necessarily believe. But I feel that if we go back

1016
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: to all these three different scenarios, I feel like I'm

1017
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: learning a valuable lesson, or at least I'm putting God

1018
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: is putting me in a space to put into action

1019
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: the lessons that I've learned. Right, we all have had

1020
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 2: a guy and they do something after a couple months

1021
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: that's drastic, and we take them back, right, and then

1022
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: you see those behaviors show up time and time and

1023
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: time and time and time again over the next three

1024
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: years and it never works out. And so for me,

1025
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 2: and I say three years because that's my story, I've

1026
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: had that happen to me multiple time. I'm not ghosting,

1027
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: but just chaos. And so for me, you know, it's

1028
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: like I have to be honest with myself about what

1029
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm attracted to. I have to see beyond like the

1030
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: good and understand like they're like when people do things

1031
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: like stuff their thumb, there's a bigger issue there, and

1032
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: then more importantly, when people show you who they are,

1033
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 2: you believe them the first time. Why it's kind of

1034
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: like for me, I don't want to welcome into the

1035
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: ability into my life. So it's like, Okay, you've shown

1036
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 2: me that you have the ability to abandon me, because

1037
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: I have to look at it like how you're treating me,

1038
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: not how you treat everybody else, because how you treat

1039
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: everybody else is not how you should treat Jessica Thorpe,

1040
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: you know, because I've been good to you, and so

1041
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: you know, I can hear all the excuses and all

1042
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 2: the apologies in the world. But what I do know

1043
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: is that if I take you back, or if I

1044
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 2: open the door for that, I'm going to be in

1045
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 2: the same situation in a year and it's going to

1046
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 2: be more painful for me because we would have had

1047
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 2: a year more of memories.

1048
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: So it's like, get out early. We had a great time.

1049
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: But like, that's never going to work for me because

1050
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: it's like you, like my therapist said this, she goes,

1051
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 2: when you're married, but are you just gonna walk away

1052
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: for two weeks and take it two Like you can't

1053
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: take a break, you know?

1054
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: And I know we're not married, but it's like, give

1055
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 3: me the respect.

1056
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 2: And I think it's because I feel disrespected, Like give

1057
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: me the respect of communicating with me, because I'm a

1058
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 2: communications professional, and more importantly, it's just human decency and

1059
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: you don't treat people like this.

1060
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 3: So it's like, I'm like, you told me you're.

1061
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: We're sure we're gonna hear from him, and then today

1062
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: he's lurking on my social media.

1063
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: I can tell you one thing I know for sure.

1064
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: They always come back, girl, They always do. I don't

1065
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: care what relationship end, they will find the audacity. I'm

1066
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: me tell you something. People will do you wrong and

1067
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: they will look under the couch cushions and be like,

1068
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: here's a link full of audacity. Let me call Jessica

1069
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: Thorpe and be like, girl, what you're doing? Like, no

1070
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: big deal, you know what I mean. And so they

1071
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: all do that. And I think that people who wrong

1072
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: other people, especially good people, feel like they have a

1073
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: window of opportunity to I'm back. It doesn't matter whom

1074
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: you're dating. If you are a good soul and you're

1075
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: dating someone, they'll miss that quality because you can't find

1076
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: that quality and or connection from really solid good people often,

1077
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: and you're right, he has to display the pattern. But

1078
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: it still doesn't mean you can't miss him, and it

1079
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: still doesn't mean that you can't miss with the relationship,

1080
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: and it still doesn't mean that you may not want

1081
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: to talk to him and figure out why, because that

1082
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: would be killing me. I'm like, how you just ghost

1083
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: me after you you asked me to go get some

1084
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: tickets for the concert, and now you go to me.

1085
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: You go to me.

1086
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 3: You wanted to do all these things, to make all

1087
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 3: of these grand gestures, you know, making plans.

1088
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 2: I'm putting you on my gym membership. I'm like, why

1089
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: because I have a gym in my building, But you

1090
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: know whatever, I'll do it. But yeah, it is interesting

1091
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: because yes, those feelings do come up. I do miss him,

1092
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: I do miss our connection. I do miss the you know,

1093
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 2: the banter, all those things. But it's like I missed that,

1094
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: but I'm existing, I was existing in this. I'm existing

1095
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: in a space of confusion right because they're there's no

1096
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: communication and so it's like I miss you butt, right,

1097
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: there's the butt, and I don't want to be when

1098
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: anybody where I have to do the butt. You hurt

1099
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: me type of thing, but you did this because what's

1100
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 2: going to happen is, let's say I allow that I

1101
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: miss you feelings to like take over right like I

1102
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: used to, because I mean, so many men have done things,

1103
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: and had I just taken heed at month three, by

1104
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: year two and a half, I wouldn't have been as hurt, right,

1105
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: because I would have been moved on. But it's like

1106
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: just one of those things where it's like, you know,

1107
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 2: my grandmother always says this. People do what they want

1108
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: to do, make no mistake about it. My grandmother used

1109
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: to say to me, your grandfather could up and leave

1110
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: me tomorrow and there's nothing I can do about it.

1111
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: Because at the end of the day, people do what

1112
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: they want to do. So when somebody does something or

1113
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 2: doesn't do something, it's because they don't want to or

1114
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: they want to. And so I'm believing yeah, and I

1115
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: believe you, And it's like you got to take a

1116
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: like a And I'm not the most pragmatic analytical person.

1117
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm very emotional, and anybody who knows me knows like

1118
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: I'm doing my best to try to, you know, be

1119
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 2: a bit more pragmatic just in terms of life. But

1120
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: I'm a very emotional person like I hurt like everybody else.

1121
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: I've cried my tears, I've had my frustrating moments, but

1122
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 2: like and taking a step back and looking at like

1123
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: my life and the patterns of my relationships over the years,

1124
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 2: this is one that shows up. And so it's like

1125
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 2: back to the earlier question, what do you think God

1126
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 2: is showing you? It's like I gotta remember the lessons

1127
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 2: and move accordingly to get to the next chapter because

1128
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: I can't keep displaying the same behaviors and accepting the

1129
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 2: same nonsense if I want something different. And so it's

1130
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: just weird because it's like I feel like I'm dating,

1131
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 2: but like I'm in it. But there's also a version

1132
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: of me that's like a bird's eye view, that's like

1133
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: looking at everything and saying, Okay, let's assess this.

1134
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 3: Thank godf of therapy, raise a little up there.

1135
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: I will say this, you're not alone and you're in

1136
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: your quest two fine love. I think anyone listening can

1137
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: understand what it feels like to want to be with

1138
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: someone because you have so much love to give and

1139
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: and what I do love about you is that you

1140
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 1: don't get jaded, you don't get exhausted by the shenanigans,

1141
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: because we have had some shenanigans most recently, and I'm

1142
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: all like, or you have got to be getting me

1143
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: not Bachelor number one, two and three all back to back,

1144
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: Like that's a shenanigan in itself, back to back to

1145
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: back to back, and and and the reality is must

1146
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: be said, no one is perfect. We're not asking you

1147
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: to show up perfectly. But you know, you have to

1148
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 1: be ready to walk away when it's time to walk away.

1149
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: And you have to also know what you want. And

1150
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: that's the that's the one thing I think you have

1151
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: that I don't have. You know exactly what you want

1152
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: it to look like and what it feels like. And

1153
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: so when you get a sense of that, you want

1154
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: to hold on to it. And that's what you did

1155
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: with Bachelor number three. But he he you know, he

1156
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: fumbled the bag. That's his bad. That's he fumbled the bag.

1157
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: That is his bad. So you're back in these streets,

1158
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: back you back outside. How is dating?

1159
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: I just.

1160
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: I fall into this spiral when I'm hurt that I

1161
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 2: just get a little reckless, and I just I get reckless.

1162
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: It's reckless. But you know I'm gonna take a step back.

1163
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna like ship, I'm a chill. I'm want

1164
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 2: to give myself the rest of the year to just

1165
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: like focus on a lot of work stuff going on.

1166
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 2: So I just want to focus and pace myself for

1167
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 2: the next bachelors that decide to slide in the DM

1168
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: or enter my life or see me outside. But yeah, Carrie,

1169
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: it's just some days I wake up and I'm like, Jessica,

1170
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: that's all I got, Just sigh.

1171
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: Why did I get lad? Are we going back to London?

1172
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: Are we gonna go is oh boy with the thumb

1173
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: looking good? Should we go back to London and find him? Like?

1174
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: What's going on? Where we are? We We're not that desperate.

1175
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: We're not back there yet, right No, no, no, no,

1176
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: not that we're.

1177
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 3: Going to But I crossed the pond just to see

1178
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 3: what's out there. But yeah, I can't. I can't. I

1179
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: can't double back with that one because it's already in

1180
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 3: my head.

1181
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: Listen, Okay, So in closing, as we wrap the podcast,

1182
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: what is your advice to anyone who's dating man, woman,

1183
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: girl boy? What is your advice to anyone who is

1184
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: out here dating as a professional looking for love and

1185
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: trying to navigate between social media, online dating, meeting someone

1186
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: walking down the street, through musual friends. What are you

1187
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: saying to people who are still who still have hope

1188
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: and have not given up. People who still have hope

1189
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: and that have not given up. The advice that I

1190
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: would give you is be honest with yourself, right, remember.

1191
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 2: The life lessons that you've been taught over the years,

1192
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: and never give up on love because at the end

1193
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: of the day, it will come. We just have to

1194
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: be patient and we have to be discerning, and everything

1195
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 2: happens the way it's supposed to one day a year

1196
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: from now and two years from now, and be like, ah, now,

1197
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: I see why that didn't work out because I was

1198
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 2: supposed to meet this guy at this location a month later.

1199
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: So just be optimistic, be careful with your heart, be

1200
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: gentle with yourself, and remember like life goes on hashtag onward.

1201
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 3: You know that's how I feel.

1202
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: So goodbye to the guy who was hiding his eye,

1203
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: Goodbye to the guy with the thumb, and goodbye to

1204
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: the ghost. We're moving onward, deuces. Yes, Jessa, thank you

1205
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: for sharing your story. This is an unusual naked but

1206
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: not unusual in a bad way. We were truly naked

1207
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: and we giggled and it's ridiculous, but it was also guitartic.

1208
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: I thing for you, so it's special. You got it

1209
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: on whack so that you know how strong you are.

1210
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: When you listen to this back, you'll realize that, yeah,

1211
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm that girl. I can pick everything up and move

1212
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: ahead and live the life that I ultimately want to

1213
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: live with the love that I deserve. And that's what

1214
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: you're going to be able to hear in this. So

1215
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: thank you for telling your story and being so honest

1216
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: and brave. I appreciate you, my friend.

1217
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: I love you, and I appreciate you, and you're an inspiration.

1218
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: And just thank you for having my back and being

1219
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 2: there for me every.

1220
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 3: Step of the way.

1221
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: I love you and laughing at you.

1222
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 3: That's true and with me and with me because I

1223
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 3: laugh too.

1224
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 5: Child.

1225
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: Now, with that being said, I'm glad that she shared

1226
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: those stories, and I'm glad she still believes in love.

1227
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: I am so jaded. This is why I hang out

1228
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: with her because she's so positive and I love that

1229
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: she's still like, no matter what, it'll find me when

1230
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: it's supposed to find me. And she gave you all

1231
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: those words of encouragement, and I love it. And obviously

1232
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: I didn't get into my business because you know, I

1233
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: don't like to get into my business. On my own podcast,

1234
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm just nosey asking her all her questions. But I

1235
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: will say this, I am dating, and I am happy.

1236
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: I like the person I'm with. We're enjoying each other.

1237
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't I want to get into too much because

1238
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna jinx it and I'm nervous and

1239
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: my fingers are crossed that it doesn't get messed up,

1240
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: that I don't overthink about it and overtrip and all

1241
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: the other things that I do. But with that being said,

1242
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: with your girl up, she got to hear naked and

1243
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: vulnerable dating in twenty twenty three. That's a dangerous thing

1244
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: to do dat in twenty twenty three. I'm jealous of

1245
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: all my friends who don't have to date, and I

1246
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: also admire my friends who are like, I'm done dating.

1247
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm just gonna sit at home and play

1248
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: with my cat as an animal. Don't get nasty. We

1249
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: got a new addition of Naked coming up next Monday.

1250
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening and give it

1251
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: up for Jessica. She's a sweetheart.