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Each money Making Conversation talk shows about 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: entrepreneurship and entertainment. I provide the consumer and business owner 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: access to celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs, and industry decision makers. It 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: is important to understand that everybody travels a different path 31 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: to success. That's because your brand is different. The challenges 32 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: you face in your life are different. 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Let me introduce them. 42 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: First time meeting, but I feel like I know him 43 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: because I've seen several episodes of this new series on NBC. 44 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: My next two guests are live is studio. Like I 45 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: stated from the Luke I'm just giving like one credit 46 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: and attached to their names. From the Luke Cage and 47 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: Netflix series. He plays Simon on the NBC midseason drama 48 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: Zoe's Extraordinary Playlist, and from the Glee TV series. He 49 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: plays mo on NBC's new mid season drama Yeah Okay 50 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: mid season drama Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist. They are both talented entertainments, 51 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: but they're also driven by their causes to create change. 52 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: Alex Newell is a powerful force in the LGBT team 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: community worldwide, and John Clarence Stewart is an advocate for 54 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: the evolution of black and Brown man and the innocence 55 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: and education of Black and Brown boys. Please is working 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: the Money Making Conversation. Two of the stars of Zoe's 57 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: Extraordinary Playlist that air Sunday night on NBC, John Clarence 58 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: Stewart and Alex Newell. Yes, So how do I learn 59 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: how to make money? Because I'm not I'm not broke. 60 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: I already tell you about my bag, three of them 61 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: from London. You're not just gonna go to Macy's and 62 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: get that bad. You just keep going, you keep going. 63 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: But getting on the plane, I know somebody, I don't somebody. 64 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: I get all my as they say, my suspenders, they 65 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: come from London, as you can. I love my clothes. London. 66 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: It's one of my cities. Paris is another one. I said, 67 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: if I ever had to do it all over again, team, 68 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: I probably would live in Paris because I love New 69 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: York and Paris reminds me of New York. It's fast, 70 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: it's great food, it feels very community driven, and so 71 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: I probably would have lived my life out in Paris. So, 72 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: but I've lived my life out in the United States. 73 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: I love it here all right. Living in Chicago. That's 74 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: where I did Steve harvesh talk show, or we launched 75 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: it up there there for five years. I love the cold. 76 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: Lived in Los Angeles for fifteen years, and I'm a Houston, 77 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: Texas home board straight out of the field Ford. Uh, 78 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: We're now based in the Atlanta doing this incredible money 79 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: making conversation talk show. One of my clients you heard 80 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: him earlier that Stephen a Smith businessman and everything's good. 81 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: So so when I bring in the inviduals on the show, 82 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: then they I love about both you guys as your 83 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: dynamically different individuals, but you're achieving the same success changing 84 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: the world, and you're you're from an entertainment perfective the show. 85 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about the show. Zoe's extraordinary played this 86 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: which Arizon NBC. I've seen the first three episodes and 87 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: simon your character, you know, um, you know with which 88 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: I love about it. I'm gonna tell you a little 89 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: bit back by me. I'm an old school guy. I love. 90 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: I grew up watching the Oklahoma Dar's Day. I love 91 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: to death. These are so. I'm a big musical guy 92 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: at heart. You know. In little school, I played this 93 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: saxophone for like Parendet, So I have a music background. 94 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: Now I can't sing. My daughter is taking singing lessons. 95 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: I don't know where she got that from. She said, Dad, 96 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take singing less though. Okay, she went and 97 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: took a singing lesson. The guy said come back. I said, okay, 98 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: that's good. He said, come on, come back so that 99 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: my daughter beside my daughter. So but if you guys, 100 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: I have to say professional singers. So starting with you, 101 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: John uh leading that you have done a lot of 102 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: physical activity, a lot of action shows. How did you 103 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: get involved with this series? Um? I got involved with 104 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: the series through Jane, she plays lead. We worked on 105 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: the show together called what If in the cast at 106 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: that time, we were all out having drinks one night 107 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: and um, she brought up this show that she was 108 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: working on and she said that they were looking for 109 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: a guy to play this role. And then a friend 110 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: of ours said, John, do you say? And I said yeah. 111 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: She said you sing? I said yeah, and then she 112 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: wrote something on her phone. And then the next day 113 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: my agent reached out to me. It was like, John, 114 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: do you sing? I said, yeah, Singing is not on 115 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: your resume. I mean, it's just it's just not at 116 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: the very top. Um. And so it's really because I'm 117 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: a farmer actor. So I know you put all those 118 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: skills down the Spanish you know, I can psycho motorcycle 119 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: and did sing it. It's down singing. I sing it 120 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: on the resume. UM, because I've done a few I've 121 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: done a musical or two. UM, not in a grand scale. 122 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: I haven't done Broadway. UM. I did a show called 123 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: Choired Boy here in Atlanta back in the day. UM. 124 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: But UH at that time, my agent sent me the script. 125 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: And when my agent sent me the script, I read 126 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: the pilot and it moved me. UM. I lost my 127 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: pops thirteen years ago, and so for me, the concept 128 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: of the show UM Zoe played by Jane being able 129 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: to hear people's heart song and know what they're emotionally 130 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: going through UM really connected with me. Uh and Simon 131 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: going through this grieving process is something that I feel 132 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: is so unique and so specific and something that I 133 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: could bring something to. It's something that black men, black boys, UM, 134 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: black and brown like men in general, everyone needs to 135 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: have more examples of people giving themselves permission to feel 136 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: and UM with this, with this construct, you know, there 137 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: is no mask. You know what I'm saying, And so 138 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: much of what we do in the world is where 139 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: masks UM and Austin brilliantly created this, this show where 140 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: we're getting to the heart of everyone, which is the 141 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: thing that connects us all I think the emotional world true. 142 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just let you know that I am thoroughly 143 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: impressed with the script. At first what I got into 144 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: the series. Initially I went okay, but after the third episode, 145 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: I am, I want to see four. I want to 146 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: see you just wait. I I just blown away. And 147 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: then Alex the next door neighbor who plays the music 148 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: loud every episode you have a different hashtag of every scene. 149 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: I have a different when I go through five or 150 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: six weeks. And the DJ, the eccentric, eclectic loudmouth who 151 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: has But how I got onto the show was, um, 152 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: I come from Glee and so with that, the casting 153 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: director of Glee UM pitched me for this show and um, 154 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: I had an audition for it, and then it got 155 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: canceled and then I went straight to test and then 156 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: I read the script and I was just like, oh 157 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: my god, this is me because it was all about 158 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: what my love of music is. And I've been singing 159 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: since I was two years old. Um, and in Boston, 160 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: well Boston, Alabama. My mom and my daddy from Alabama. 161 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: And so when my grandfather, my grandfather, my father died 162 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: when I was six, my mother used to shipped me 163 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: to Alabama each summer, so I really learned my roots. 164 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: Um and uh a spirit culture shot going from Boston 165 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: to the Cottondale, Alabama. It Cottondalne, not Stee and in 166 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: the whole waffle house. But UM, my love of music. 167 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: I've grown up in church and doing Broadway and being 168 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: a recording artist. It really spoke to that side of me, 169 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: especially after Glee ended. Now, you're interesting thing about that. 170 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: I saw a video I tried to do even death. 171 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: I try to learn more about the individuals who I 172 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: talked to. Like in one interview, you listed Jane as 173 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: your friend, you know, as a relationship that started on 174 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: the show. Talk about that. You said you knew her 175 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: from another show and you guys were out and then 176 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: she told you about the series. And I always talk 177 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: about relationships. How did I did your relationship friendship with her? 178 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: Jane being Lee character on the show's always extraordinary playlist 179 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: and Alex your characters more more On the shower, they 180 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: collected the outlandish over the top DJ. How did their 181 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: relationship move off the off the I guess the screen 182 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: into real life. I guess it started off screen before 183 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: it went to screen. I mean when we were in Canada, 184 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: we spent more time together outside of the show than 185 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: we did on the show because we don't spend a 186 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: lot of time with each other working all the time 187 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: and we aren't in the same scenes all the time. 188 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,239 Speaker 1: And I think that's how we cultivated, uh working friendship. 189 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: I think I've had so many dinners outside of the 190 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: show with just Jane and just talking and getting to 191 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: know each other, and it makes everything on screen that 192 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: much better authentic. Yeah, and because I'm hanging out with 193 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: my friend and we're just saying lines. And that's what 194 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: I take away. John. I look at you. You play 195 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: kind of semi love interest because she doesn't no no, 196 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: no no to come on night. And I know you, 197 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: I know you're the referee. You know she goes from 198 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: you know Simon too, it Max right there, you know, 199 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, you know, let's let's let's talk about that 200 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: because you don't because you have a fiancee on the show, 201 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: so you know this is the semi you know, you're 202 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: right right, So you don't really know what's going on, 203 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: but Mo kind of knows what's going on here. So 204 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: so you're an innocent bystander there because like I said, 205 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: let's let's let's set up the series correctly. Okay, because 206 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: Zoey's character, she goes in for an exam, I won't 207 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: give it a serious away, and out of the exam, 208 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: she's she's struck with the ability to be able to 209 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: hear people's songs that are affecting the emotionally at that moment. 210 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: They can break out in the dance, They can break 211 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: out into a solo, the whole coffee shop can just 212 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: start dancing, the whole street can just break out into 213 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: a whole number. And but nobody's seeing it but her, 214 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: and when they stopped, they just start walking off. And 215 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: so so she's really caught up in that moment. And 216 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: so so that's really important when you once you're buy 217 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: into that, you see it's important because the way her 218 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: family dynamic is structure with her father, his disability, her mom, 219 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: and it established lanes of communication, but it also established 220 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: the relationship she starts with mo and then when he 221 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: starts breaking out just in a solo at the death, 222 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: that that builds the relationship there. And so with that 223 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: being said, John, how does that play out for you? 224 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: Because you know your your plan a character you don't 225 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: know what's happening, and you just being you. But but 226 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: you you kind of cold. Do you are you sensing 227 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: any type of emotional connection other than work or she 228 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: relates to your sorrow with your dad passing in the 229 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: series or what I think the way that comes to 230 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: mind is intimacy, And I think it's an intimacy is 231 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: sometimes born over a long period of time and sometimes 232 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: born in a moment um when people when someone has 233 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: an experience that's very unique, like losing someone and being 234 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: in the process of losing someone or having lost someone themselves, 235 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: there's a there's It's like being in a dome and 236 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: and no one else is in the dome but you, Um, 237 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: no one else is. Life is different but yours. And 238 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: then when Zoe um confides and when Zolwey says what's 239 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: going on with her father, Um Simon feels like there's 240 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: someone else in the dome with him, right though he 241 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: has a fiance, She's never lost any one. And that's 242 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: a very specific kind of uh. And it was suddenly 243 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: said there, you know, like because when you meet the fiance, 244 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: she mentioned the word Weddy, And then all of a sudden, 245 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: that little couple of sentences that you have would make 246 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: it feels like that relationship is kind of shaky. That 247 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: was good writing right there. It looks you know, it 248 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: was like it was like the door was open. Oh 249 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: maybe maybe she might be sliding over the Zoey might 250 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: have a shot. And because I thought Zoe heard that 251 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: in the series, because you go okay, because remember she 252 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: you know, she had the two ice cream cups and 253 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: she threw them in the trash when she realized that 254 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: she was a fool for thinking there was an option 255 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: here because it wasn't an option. 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That's O T 292 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: T E R dot Ai. Why do you believe her? Um? 293 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: I think Mo at first thought this was just like 294 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: a fun game gene, like a fun game like come here, 295 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: crazy white girl, Like, oh, I'm really high, and this 296 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: is funny to me. But I think and then as 297 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: it grows, you learn that everything that Zoe is going 298 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: through and it's saying telling Mo is very true. Like 299 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: it's not like she's making things up. She's like hearing 300 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: these songs and then it's correlating to the person, and 301 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: so you can't help but believe her. And I think 302 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: that Mo knows that without Mo, Zoe would be very 303 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: lost in all of it, because there is she Zoe 304 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: doesn't have a relationship with music, so she doesn't know 305 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: what which is actually funny. Yeah, you know, because she 306 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: claims she screams at you about you playing loud. Yeah, 307 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: but she doesn't know anything about it, especially when she 308 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: said that she's giving his kids. You see people singing 309 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: wasted on a wasted and say that I do. That 310 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: should be the blessing should have been passed. It should 311 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: have been not a tone deaf person. Let's talk about Glee, 312 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: because Glee was a groundbreaker. Yeah, I watched Glee. I'm 313 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: watching Zoe. I will tell you I love Zoe, enjoyed Glee, 314 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you why the characters have so 315 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: much pain and then you have Uh. It was Lauren Graham. 316 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: She from The Gilmore Girls, a character you get as 317 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: exposed and Mary's Team Mary. She plays the mom James's 318 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: mom on the show. If the father, he's ah, here's 319 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: a neural illness where he can't speak. Along the way, 320 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: he starts to communicate much much better in the series. 321 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: And that's why this music plays as such a vital role, 322 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: because it forces people who you thought you had no 323 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 1: way of communicating the understanding them and guiding them through 324 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: the right paths to you mostly get the right on 325 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: the right path. That's why falling in love with this series, 326 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: because you know you can you know because let's let's 327 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 1: put this way, if you just did to show at 328 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: the office, it'll be a good show. Is when you 329 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: go to her family, when you go to her her 330 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: mom and um, you know, you know, I've dealt with 331 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: my mom passing away. You knew what best people get older, 332 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: they never passed away away or you want them to 333 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: pass away because they physically, you know, they diminished physically, 334 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: and so and knowing that, I've seen how how that 335 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: affects people. And then in this situation that affects her 336 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: mom and even though she's in denial, and I think 337 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: that is really important, it's very relatable. I think that 338 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 1: anybody who would watch the show. The music is just 339 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: a bonus, But the storyteller is amazing. So each one 340 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: you can talk about that we saw with you John, 341 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: they move with dialex because the storyteller, that's that's such 342 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: a beautiful story you guys are telling every Sunday night 343 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: on NBC. Absolutely, And you know the credit for that 344 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: is that's Austin and that's the that's the creator of 345 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: the show. And and he, I mean, the show is 346 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: based on his life and and I think there's a 347 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: there's a specificity and an authenticity to the story because 348 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: it's coming from that soul space and you can't you 349 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: can't mimic that. You can't, um, you can't conjure that up. 350 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: It's just it's there or it's not. And when something 351 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: is so specific, I think it makes it universal, UM, 352 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: And it hits the vein or the cord or the nerve, 353 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: and I think that's what you feel. Yeah, that's that. 354 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: That's the same way that UM. That's the way that 355 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: like looking at my mother right after my father passed away, UM, 356 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: looking at the way that she is her life is 357 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: being how she's navigated things, how she's held us together, 358 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: how she's tried to maintain a sense of normalcy and 359 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: then finding a new normal. You know, it's all of 360 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: those things that's important because it happens with Mary's character. 361 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: It's it is accepting the responsibility that she can't and 362 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: let go and she can't ask for help and not 363 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: feel like she's diminished her responsibilities. And there's a very 364 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: key moment in episode three that that plays out that 365 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: definitely uh, such such the course of that relationship in 366 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: a very positive direction, because it was spirer spiring down 367 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: here and in a horribly bad way for the family dynamic, 368 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: you know. And I, like you said, there's some some scenes, 369 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: some episodes coming up there I'm gonna get even more 370 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: excited about in the future, so so forth. So Mo, 371 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: that's your character, that Alex that you play. You play 372 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: the character Mo. The DJ tell us about when somebody 373 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: gives you a character like that to play, do you do? 374 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: Do you do you limit what you can do with it? 375 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: Or you say or you go to the producers and say, okay, 376 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: what do you what do you want? What do you 377 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: want me to give you with this character? I think 378 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: it's a combination of both. I always want to be like, 379 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: what do you need from me? After I give them 380 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: what I can give them, and then change whatever they 381 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: want depending on the scenario or the topic. I think, Um, 382 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: when I first had a meeting after the show got 383 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: picked up, Um, it was so we have this confident 384 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: character that's very confident. Where is the flaw? Where is 385 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: the humanistic quality? Where is the realism? How do we 386 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: make this character more relatable other than just being at 387 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: ten and confident all the time. And I gave them 388 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: a plethora of ideas of things about where my flaws 389 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: personally come in about being confident all the time, but 390 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean I am when I'm handing handed a character 391 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: that is so larger than life. It's it's always a challenge, 392 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: mainly because it's so hard to be at a ten 393 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: a majority of the time and not be like a 394 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: trope or a Jimminy cricket or a magical negro. So 395 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: it's it's nice to like go in with the expectation 396 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: of I can do all of that, but I would 397 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: like more than that, and I and what are the 398 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: ways that we can get there? We do an interesting 399 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: thing about your character. We're both of you guys character 400 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: characters because they're they're distinctively different, but they're play important 401 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: roles in the series. One one is emotionally guiding. That's 402 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: your character sign mostly guiding potentially James character Zoe into 403 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: a direction where she doesn't even know she's just trying 404 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: to find us because she's in denial with another lead 405 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: actor on the show, one of my favorite guys from 406 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 1: the Pitch Perfect series. When I saw him, well, I 407 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: like this show because I really like it. He's a 408 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: very talented guy as well as an outstanding singer. And 409 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: then and then you have your character mode where you're 410 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out too. Girl, make a decision, 411 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: you know over here this is not And then and 412 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: then this third episode third, the episode three ended with 413 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: guess his team Simon? Now, you know, because of the 414 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: fact that you're playing a referee. And then when I 415 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: look at your characters, it's always on ten. But he's 416 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: always on ten. But because you're never right all the time, 417 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: you know. So that's your flaw. You know, you give 418 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: at information that means the right information. So that's a flaw. 419 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: When you walked in the room talking about got these 420 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: three ideas, and all three of them are crazy. Now 421 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: I made any sense, especially number three? I thought, what 422 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: she think a number three? Well? And so these are they? 423 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: I can't give away the series. I'm just like, I'm 424 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: talking to Eric, and I gotta talk to Eric. So everybody, 425 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: I gotta look at that episode three to find out 426 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: what number three years. I'm gonna find out what team 427 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: Simon is. I got who's the other dude? She pitch perfect? Guy? 428 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 1: Who's she talking about? That? That's right on Sunday night 429 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: us Zoey's starting their playlist. It's an incredible serious starting 430 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: two of my friends here to me. We keep elevating. Yeah, 431 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: good friends. Friends, you know, I can't wait. Family, get 432 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: your bags. We're not getting that. We're not getting like 433 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: that produce. It will beat me up. So let's talk 434 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: about I started the show talking about what you guys 435 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: do off you know, I think in your real world, 436 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, and that committed effort. I'm a passion guy, 437 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: you know. I always feel I always pay it forward. Uh. 438 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: I'm being at for I'm being honored at my school 439 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: this Sunday at halftime because making a big endowment where 440 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: every year you know, it's uh, three African American students 441 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: with scholarships, uh, and the and the steam programs forever. 442 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's set up that way. I died 443 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: and they through a lot of dirt in front of 444 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: on my face, and that's still be giving with these 445 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: three scholarships. And so that's part of the process. That's 446 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: one of the things I do. H B c U. 447 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: You know, we set up last year we will registered 448 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: students on the spot. Gave way almost four million dollars 449 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: and scholarships. So when I hear individuals who we know, 450 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: how busy each one of your lives are, but still 451 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: stop pumped the brakes and go, you know something, I 452 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: gotta do more. What drives you, John and your cause 453 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: or causes? Well, I think for me, what drives me 454 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: is the things that have been struggles in my own life, sir, 455 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: um and really lizing that I want to be able 456 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: to give boys the thing that I didn't have. Um, 457 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: And you're Atlanta War. Yeah. And my father was also, 458 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: he was steeped in the community. I mean, he started 459 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: up a chapter of the a CP in Gwinnette County. Um, 460 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: and my mother still runs it and he she works 461 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: at Emory right now. Um. But growing up, I think 462 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: that I didn't have There wasn't a focus on emotional 463 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: intelligence growing up as a young black boy and as 464 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: a black man. I think a lot of my process, 465 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: through going to therapy and different things like that, has 466 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: been acquiring the vocabulary for my inner world and learning 467 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: how to make changes that are sustainable in my life. 468 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of boys don't have permission 469 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: to do that because there's this idea of manhood that 470 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: they're trying to hold up, which means they sacrifice parts 471 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: themselves along the way, and they just a lot of 472 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: times they just need to know it's okay. They just 473 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: need to see someone experiencing a thing that they feel 474 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: and see that, oh, it's possible to do that human. 475 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm not less of a man. That's which is awesome. Now, Alex, 476 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: when you look at your life, I mentioned, uh, but 477 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: also I'm a cancer survivor and when I read about you, 478 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: you're involved with the American Cancer Society. What connects you 479 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: with the American Cancer So my father died of cancer 480 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 1: when I was six, and so it's just always been 481 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 1: a part of my life. I just um recently lost 482 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: my best friend's mother to cancer at the beginning of 483 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: the year um and the pastor of my church died 484 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: of cancer. My best friend's mother died of cancer right 485 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: around the same time as my father died. And it's 486 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: just always been this luminous fear of what cancer is. 487 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: And I never wanted to have that fear followed me 488 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: the rest of my life. So I got very involved 489 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: in at all. When you say fear, what do you 490 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: mean when you say fear? The fear of just what 491 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: cancer is and just being so scared of it rather 492 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: than trying to beat it. It is. But I always 493 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: tell people when I was informed I had cancer. You 494 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: know it. You know it's immediately that we're death. I'm 495 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: gonnation your conversation because I don't you know here about 496 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: You're not gonna terned about survivor you're just worried about it. 497 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: That's a finance moment in your life. And I tell 498 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: people all the time, you know, just be prepared, live 499 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: your life. That's why I'm telling them. That's why I 500 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: love talking to you too, because you know, I go 501 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: through the resume. I got the success as an entertainer, 502 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: like secs entrepreneur. I was like, to dig deeper and 503 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: what are you doing? What's the balanced part of your life? 504 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: And you guys have a balanced life and so and 505 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: we know we're all gonna go. And so when it happens, 506 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: how do you feel? And I tell everybody when it was. 507 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: When the doctor announced it to me, I was shocked, 508 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: but you know I didn't I didn't tell my family 509 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: and I just I just I just took it all in. 510 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: And when I when I finally took it all in, 511 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: I was comfortable if this was it. I was comfortable 512 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: because I know what life I had laid. I knew 513 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: the type of people I affected. You know, I drunk 514 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: all the water. You know, you gave me a glass 515 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: of ward. I dropped it. I didn't leave no water. 516 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: You're trying to get drink after me and when we drinking, okay, 517 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: and so and that's why I tell people to live 518 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: your life and so so I just wanted to you know, 519 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: you here to promote the show, but I wanted to 520 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: tell you both, don't stop, you know, don't stop. Don't 521 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: they're draining you know, squeeze it and live the life 522 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: and be you. And it's important and and it's always 523 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: great to have when I have to opposite individuals who 524 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: are doing doing things from different perspectives but achieving the 525 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: same goals. And that's changing this world because we need 526 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: so much help. And you don't have to put names 527 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: on who's altering the cause of it, because it's sometimes 528 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: it's so it's so organic. There's somebody right next to 529 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: you that needs that support. And so don't change. Don't change, really, 530 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: don't change. And you're not family yet. So you know, 531 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: that was a good speech. I gave y'all enough to 532 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,479 Speaker 1: get a bag. I can tell you that. But you 533 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: know how didn't look frozen fingers? She getting up. You 534 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: know okay, I got my two other stars. My man 535 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: job Alex Well, we're just out here. I still want 536 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: my bag. I'm just if you because your hand styles 537 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: was amazing. Thank you. But you didn't change it. But 538 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: you didn't change your house stout in this interview if 539 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: you would have changed your house now, because you change 540 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: it every episode, you challenge it every scene on that show. 541 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: You know that, right, Thank you very much. I know that. 542 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: I know that. Okay, cool, so easy. I got two 543 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: of the stars. Guess what. A big time in the community, 544 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: a big time on the screen every Sunday. 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