1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: podcast network. This is the place to be if you're 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: ready for the best podcasts of the paranormal, curious. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 2: And sometimes unexplained. 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: Now listen to this. 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 8 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 11 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 12 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: Get ready to be amazed by the Wizard of Weird 13 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: Strange Things with Joshua Warren. 14 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: I am Joshua be Warren, and each week on this show, 15 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news exercises, 16 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a 17 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: lot more. On this edition of the show, I was 18 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: trapped with a dead human and here's what happened. I 19 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: guess you could say it's sort of like story time 20 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: here on the podcast. And I know that some of 21 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: you have possibly heard me tell this story before here 22 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: or there. It's one of those stories that I'll just 23 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: never forget. And I thought of this because, you know, 24 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: I have been experimenting recently with my new portal opening 25 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: device that I intend to use eventually at my property 26 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: near Area fifty one, and I haven't explained how this 27 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: device is intended to work, but it does involve some chemistry, 28 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: and I've never been great at chemistry, so I'm having 29 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: to go back and learn and relearn some things. And 30 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: this made me think of this story, and eventually you'll 31 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: see why how it all connects. When I was in 32 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: high school, one of my friends introduced me to one 33 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: of his friends, who is this older guy. And we'll 34 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: call the older guy Jim. So here, I am in 35 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: my teens. I don't know, I'm probably like maybe seventeen 36 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: or something like that, and Jim was in his twenties. 37 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: You know. 38 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: It seems like there are always these guys who they 39 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: graduate from high school and they want to go back 40 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: and hang out with high school kids. 41 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: Again, you know. 42 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: So this was what Jim was like. He was the 43 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: older guy who could buy the beer, and he was 44 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: really into paranormal and macob stuff. And so when we met, 45 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he was always wanting to go out and 46 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: investigate stuff, and we became friends. He looked the part. 47 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: He always wore a big, long trench coat. He loved 48 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: the Highlander movie. And one of the things that was 49 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: especially notable about Jim is that he worked at a 50 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: funeral home there in western North Carolina. That's where I 51 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 1: grew up. So he worked at this funeral home, and 52 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: he worked there for quite a while, and he did 53 00:03:55,240 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: a very good job. In fact, another bigger funeral home 54 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: offered him a job for more pay, and so he 55 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: took that job. So when he was working at the 56 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: second funeral home, his job was really quite intense because 57 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: they would have a little cottage basically there on the 58 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: property where he would live on the property, and he 59 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: was on call basically twenty four to seven. So in 60 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: the middle of the night, you know, his phone rang 61 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: and they said you got to go pick up a body. 62 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: He would get dressed and he would hit the road 63 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: and go get this body and bring it back and 64 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: start the processing of the body. And so he also 65 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: of course had fortunately a lot of time when he 66 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: was just sitting around and he had after said dead 67 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: time on his hands. Okay, I'm sorry, I didn't mean 68 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: for that pun, but he did have dead time on 69 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: his hands, and he liked to invite his friends over 70 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: to play role playing games like D and D, like 71 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: Dungeons and Dragons, and I had never even played that 72 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: game until I met him, and it was fun. I 73 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: never really got into it, like a bunch of you know, 74 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: my friends did. But anyway, so we'd go over there 75 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: to this funeral home and sit around in this kind 76 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: of like a break room area, and he would always 77 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: order a pizza. And every single time he would order 78 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: a pizza, the pizza restaurant would think it was a 79 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: prank when he orders a pizza to the funeral home, 80 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: and they always thought it was a prank, and he 81 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: had to convince them. And you know, you can imagine 82 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: these like sheepish pizza delivery guys popping up at the 83 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: funeral home late at night, not knowing who's going to 84 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: open the door. You know what it's going to be like. 85 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: And so that was kind of a fun and interesting 86 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: little thing that they came along with that friendship. And 87 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: it was also it was pretty bizarre to be sitting 88 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: there eating pizza next to a room that was full 89 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: of dead bodies, so that kind of sets the stage 90 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: for you. Well, one night, Jim, he I guess he'd 91 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: made arrangements for somebody to cover some time for him, 92 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: and he asked me if I wanted to go with 93 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: him to see a movie. So I said sure, So 94 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: I went over to the funeral home and he said 95 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: that he wanted to take a quick shower. Don't blame him. 96 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: And in the meantime, now, this was probably like a 97 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: three story funeral home, very elaborate, and I, since I 98 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: was quite young, have enjoyed playing the piano. And so 99 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: in one of the rooms upstairs, on like the third floor, 100 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: where they would carry out funerals, they had this nice, big, 101 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: fancy organ. So I told Jim while he was in 102 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: the shower that I was going to go up and 103 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: play this organ. And we were the only two people 104 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: on the property. So he's downstairs somewhere near his little cottage, 105 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: taking a shower. I go upstairs and go into this room, 106 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: turn on the lights, go over, sit down, fire up 107 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: this organ, and I'm playing in a takata and fugue 108 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: and d minor. I'm having a ball. This is probably 109 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: like a thirty at night, it was dark, so I 110 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: get right in the middle of playing some piece of 111 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: music and all of a sudden power goes out absolutely dark, okay, 112 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: just nothing but complete darkness, power outage. So I sit 113 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: there for a little bit waiting to see if my 114 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: eyes are going to adjust, and they really weren't adjusting, 115 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: and so finally I get up and I go, well, 116 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to work my way over toward the door 117 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: here and start hollering for Jim to see if he's 118 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: got a flashlight or something, figuring he might still be 119 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: in the shower. I don't know, so basically what happened 120 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: is here I am walking around in absolute pitch blackness, 121 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: feeling my way around this floor, being very careful and 122 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: because I don't want to fall down any stairs, and 123 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: there are no emergency exit lights like you would expect, 124 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: and I knew there were multiple rooms, and basically here 125 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: I am. I'm just trying to find an exit somewhere, 126 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I put my hands down 127 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: and there is the unmistakable sensation of my hands on 128 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: a dead man's face. And it's very difficult to try 129 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: to describe the instantaneous jolt of adrenaline that you get 130 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: when you realize that you are in a room all 131 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: alone and pitch blackness with your hands on a corpse's face. 132 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: And I spun around and I went scrambling just in 133 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: the opposite direction. I'm tripping over chairs. I mean, I 134 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: didn't care if I fell downstairs. I just I just 135 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: wanted to get out of there. It'd freaked me out. 136 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: And so finally I did work my way down to 137 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: some stairs and I heard voice and I kind of 138 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: followed his voice a little bit, and sure enough he 139 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: had a flashlight and helped guide me down, and you know, 140 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: the whole neighborhood had lost power, and I was I 141 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: mean again, I was really surprised at how freaky that 142 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: experience was. And mind you again, you know, I'd had 143 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: some exposure to dead bodies already, and not just you know, 144 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: having gone to funerals and what not in my own life, 145 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: but I mean, there with these these corpses of strangers around, 146 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, eating the pizza. And I even had a 147 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: couple of occasions when I was allowed to watch some 148 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: of these bodies being embalmed. And apparently this guy who 149 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: was upstairs and later Tim took me upstairs when the 150 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: lights were on and showed it to me. And he 151 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: was a guy who was prepped for his funeral in 152 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: the morning and there was an open casket and all that, 153 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: and so that's why he was there. But I did 154 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: watch bodies being embalmed sometimes when I was over there, 155 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: and it was it was gross, and it was fascinating. 156 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: And I started thinking about the chemicals associated with life 157 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: and how that you know, when you die, you instantly 158 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: begin to deteriorate, and yet they can take you and 159 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: fill you with this stuff called embalming fluid and then 160 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: it stops that process. It's almost like it's halting death. 161 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: It's I don't want to say it's giving life, but 162 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: it feels like there's something mystical happening. And so I started, 163 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, since I'm investigating and learning more about chemicals 164 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: and stuff, I thought to myself, I wonder exactly how 165 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: embalming fluid works. Do you know, Well, when we come 166 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: back from this break, I'm going to tell you what 167 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: I learned about embalming fluid. And then that led me 168 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: down a rabbit hole into other interesting chemicals and then 169 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: all ties in again to some of the experiments that 170 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm doing. And I promise they don't involve dead bodies, 171 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: and then some experiments that other people have done, however, 172 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: with dead bodies. So just bear with me. 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Joshua P. Warren dot com. Would it bother 218 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: you to work in a funeral home? I'm willing to 219 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: bet that some of you listening to this show right 220 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: now have done that, or maybe are doing it as 221 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: I speak. 222 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: And you know, it. 223 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: May be that that experience that I had made an 224 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: impact on my interest in the unknown and in the 225 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: idea of an afterlife and what happens to us when 226 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: we die. I wonder if you sit around with dead 227 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: bodies all the time, if that gives you more or 228 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: less sensitivity to the power of life and then the miracle, 229 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: the magical thing that life is. Well, as I told you, 230 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: I got to see how that this very strange process 231 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: works where in which a body is sometimes embalmed and 232 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: then it just doesn't rot away like an unembalmed body. 233 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: And so I'd never really looked into exactly how that 234 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: supposedly works. And here's what I discovered. When you start 235 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: reading about it, it actually is quite technical, and so 236 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going to get that deep into it. But 237 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: the basically, embalming chemicals are a variety of preservatives, sanitizing 238 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: and disinfectant agents and additives used in modern embalming to 239 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: temporarily prevent decomposition and restore a natural appearance for viewing 240 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 1: a body after death. A mixture of these chemicals is 241 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: known as embalming fluid and is used to preserve bodies 242 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: of deceased persons for both funeral purposes and in medical 243 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: research and anatomical laboratories. The period for which a body 244 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: is embalmed is dependent on time, expertise of the embalmer, 245 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: and factors regarding duration of stay and purpose. Now, a 246 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: lot of you might think that embalming fluid is the 247 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: same thing as form aldehyde, but it turns out that's 248 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: not actually the entire case, says. Embalming fluid contains a 249 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: mixture of formaldehyde, methanol, glue, taral de hide, I don't 250 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: know how to pronounce that, and other solvents. And basically 251 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: what they're saying here is that that essentially there's a 252 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: combination of things, including formaldehyde, that it is you that 253 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: are used in embalming, and that it really just kind 254 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: of depends on the person and the circumstances, so it's 255 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: not like there's one substance that's used in every case. 256 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: But when you start looking into how it works, embalming 257 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: fluids act to denature cellular proteins, meaning that they cannot 258 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: act as a nutrient source for bacteria. Basically, what they're 259 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: saying here what I've gathered is and again I'm not 260 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: gonna even pretend that I understand the chemistry of all this, 261 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: but this fluid goes in and it somehow by it up, 262 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: it binds to these amino acids in your body, and 263 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: it changes the structure of the proteins so that everything 264 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: becomes more rigid and hesitant or I guess I should 265 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: say resistant to bacteria. So it kind of hardens things 266 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: up so that the bacteria cannot really work on it 267 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: as well, and it also kills most of the bacteria. 268 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: So really it's all about just making the proteins and 269 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: whatnot in the body more resistant to bacteria and killing 270 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: the bacteria. And that's just sort of how it works. 271 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: And so you know, it's wrong, of course to think 272 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: about this as some kind of a life giving substance, 273 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: but it is a very interesting idea that the bodies 274 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: can be preserved this way. There's not much more to 275 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: say about it, really, but I started reading about how 276 00:19:55,040 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: that this kind of thing can preserve the appearance of life, 277 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: and then I started thinking about other substances. Some substances 278 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: like the fromaldehyde, the embalming fluid, they preserved that appearance 279 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: of life, But then what about things other substances you 280 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: could take to quickly kill you. I was reading about 281 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: this serial killer recently named Leonard Lake, and he was 282 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: arrested in the nineteen eighties, and when they took him 283 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 1: into the interrogation room, apparently they left him alone for 284 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: a few minutes, so when they came back in, he's 285 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: kicking around and violently convulsing on the floor, and they 286 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: took him to the hospital and he died. Turns out 287 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: that this guy had sewn cyanide pills into his clothes 288 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: and just expecting that one day this would happen, you 289 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: get caught, and so he was able to those out 290 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: and eat those pills and commit suicide right there. And 291 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: so I you know, he had a military background by 292 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: the way, But I started thinking about, like, well, what 293 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: is it about cyanide that just so quickly destroys tissue 294 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: and kills people or something, because you always hear about 295 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: like these old spies and stuff, they give them cyanide pills. 296 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: Supposedly if they get captured they don't get tortured that 297 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: you know, they can they can do that. So I 298 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: got online and I started looking up like how does 299 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: cyanide work? And surprisingly, the first thing that pops up 300 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: when you do that is a bunch of like suicide 301 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: prevention information call now for help, which I found odd 302 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: because I I can't remember hearing of anybody, you know, 303 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: like a regular person in modern day decided to commit 304 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: suicide by cyanide. But I guess there are people who 305 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: who decide that they want to go that way. And 306 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's this idea that well, if you take 307 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: sinid like you're captured, then it's going to be you know, 308 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: a more peaceful experience. But I found this article that 309 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: I felt you'd find interesting lab roots dot com, written 310 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: by Anthony Bouchard, and he says here, Cyanide is a 311 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: lethal chemical that was commonly used in suicidal pills throughout 312 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: World War II to prevent captured spies and high government 313 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: officials from leaking their country's secrets to the enemy. And 314 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: he says although sinide pills were deemed a quote quick 315 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: and painless death at the time, modern science now shows 316 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: us this was not the case. Instead, those who took 317 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: them probably experienced along an agonizing death. Cyanide works by 318 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: blocking a sales ability to produce a thing called ATP 319 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: and this this is a source of energy used by 320 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: your body to perform a lot of natural functions regarding 321 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: breathing and muscle usage. And when a person ingests a 322 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: lethal dose of cyanide, the body cells just suddenly stop 323 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: producing ATP, so the muscle cells don't get the energy 324 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: they need and the person experiences all kinds of contractions. 325 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: And he says here, your lungs, diaphragm, and heart are 326 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: pure muscle, and when they can no longer function, you 327 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: won't be able to breathe so you get cardiac arrest. 328 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: The length of time it takes for sinide to kill 329 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: a person ranges from around two to five minutes, and 330 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: during this timeframe they're fully conscious and experience every bit 331 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: of the chemicals effects. Sinide acts fast because its molecules 332 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: are tiny, allowing it to spread through the body rapidly 333 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: and efficiently. But the guy says, on the other hand, 334 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: a conscious death lasting two to five minutes will feel 335 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: like an eternity for the affected person. So cyanide poisoning 336 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: should be considered one of the world's least preferred ways 337 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: of dying. It sounds pretty horrible, doesn't it, That you're 338 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: laying there for minutes as this absolute havoc is being 339 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: reeked on your body. And so that made me think 340 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: more about these other kinds of substances that we fear 341 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: putting into our bodies. And as I'm doing these experiments 342 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: right now with my new portal opening machine, I'll just 343 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: tell you one of the components that I am using 344 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: for the machine is liquid mercury. And a lot of 345 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: people fear liquid mercury. And they talk about not eating 346 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: too many fish and stuff because you don't want to 347 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: get you know, and you know, it's poisonous in various ways. 348 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: So I figured I'd better learn more about this, and 349 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: so when we come back from this break, I'm going 350 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: to tell you some of the things that I've learned 351 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: about liquid mercury. Uh, why is this pervasive? Why do 352 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: fish have mercury in them? And you know, how how 353 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: has this evolved so that it's such a dangerous thing. 354 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: You have to be careful about it, especially if you're 355 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: pregnant or something like that. And that will tie into 356 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: some mystical elements of mercury, which will lead me to, Well, 357 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: one of the things that I've been wanting to bring 358 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: up on this show for a while an experiment, and 359 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do this. It's an experiment that's 360 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: already been done about whether or not we can measure 361 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: life when someone dies. Is there some change there scientifically 362 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: that we can look at that we've never looked at before. 363 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: And I you know, we've got great technology now, it 364 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: can do some amazing stuff. Maybe we need to start 365 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: applying it in some different arenas of research. I'm Joshua P. Warren. 366 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: You're listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 367 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be 368 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: back after these important messages. 369 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 3: Hang in there, josh is coming right back on the 370 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 371 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 4: Take us with you anywhere. This is the iHeartRadio and 372 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 4: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 373 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: Hi. 374 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. Please make sure and check out my 375 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 3: show Shades of the Afterlife, heard right here on the 376 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 377 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 378 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua 379 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: pe Warren, and this is the show where the unusual 380 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: becomes usual. Yeah. I am incorporating some liquid mercury into 381 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: one of my experiments right now, and I have to 382 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: be careful, And I mean, how much do you really 383 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: know about mercury. Well, mercury is a chemical element. Its 384 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: symbol is HG atomic number eighty. It is also known 385 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: as quicksilver and was formerly named hydrar gyrum the Greek 386 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: words hydraur for water and arguos for silver, So that's 387 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: why HG is the symbol and it's a heavy silvery 388 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: d block element. Mercury is the only metallic element that 389 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: is known to be liquid at standard temperature and pressure. 390 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: It occurs in deposits throughout the world, mostly as cinnabar, 391 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: and of course we all know it's been used in thermometers, barometers, 392 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: all kinds of valves, switches, fluorescent lamps. But you hear 393 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: about the scary stuff all the time. You gotta be 394 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: worried about mercury. And so I wanted to look into 395 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: this and figure out, like, well, you hear if you 396 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: eat too much fish, you might get too much mercury 397 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: and it's bad for you. So where does all that 398 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: mercury come from that ends up in fish? I didn't know. 399 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: So I found some interesting articles. One of them is 400 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: from foodprint dot org written by Peter Hanlon, and he 401 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: talks about how especially expectant mothers and parents of young 402 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: children no to limit certain seafood intake to avoid high 403 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: levels of mercury. And he says mercury itself is not 404 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: a boogeyman. It occurs naturally at low levels in rock, soil, 405 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: and water throughout the world, but human activities have increased 406 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: total mercury concentrations in the atmosphere by about four hundred 407 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: and fifty percent above natural levels, to dangerous levels for 408 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: humans if it ends up in their systems in the 409 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: wrong way. And he says of the sources of the 410 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: human caused mercury emission, burning of fossil fuels like cold 411 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: let's use me like coal, and gold mining are often responsible, 412 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: and that once the mercury is in the atmosphere, it 413 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: can travel for thousands of miles and then will eventually 414 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: make its way into the oceans or large bodies of water, 415 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: either by being deposited there or on land and getting 416 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: washed downstream. And in this form, mercury poses little danger 417 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: because living things can get rid of it quite quickly. 418 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: But bacteria then convert this mercury as it sort of 419 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: streams down toward the ocean and turns it into this 420 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: highly toxic form called methylmercury, and then the food chain 421 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: takes it from there. This gets absorbed by phytoplankton, little 422 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: microscopic marine algae, and those things are eaten by larger plankton, 423 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: and then those are eaten by little fish, and then 424 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: those little fish are eaten by bigger fish, and they 425 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: get eaten by bigger fish, and as it goes back 426 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: up the food chain, these bigger fish start getting more 427 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: of this mercury built up on their body. So the 428 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: bigger the fish, the longer it lives and the more 429 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: it eats, and larger fish accumulate a lot more of 430 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: this methyl mercury in their bodies. So the largest predatory 431 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: fish in the sea, like sharks, swordfish, tuna, can have 432 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: a lot of methyl mercury concentration in their muscles. In 433 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: some cases it's ten million times higher than those of 434 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: the surrounding habitat. It's really interesting, And of course, he says, 435 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: of course, who is higher than the largest fish on 436 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: the food chain, Well humans. So if you just follow 437 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: the food chain, well, you know, seafood is the source 438 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: of nearly all the methyl mercury that we acquire in 439 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: our bodies. But it obviously has much more of a 440 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: risk for you know, like fetuses, infants, children, growing brains, 441 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: developing nervous systems. So how to reduce the intake, he says, 442 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: First off, since fish pretty much all fish contain at 443 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: least traces of this, what you do is just you 444 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: be particular about what fish you eat and how much, 445 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: not to avoid seafood altogether, just to avoid seafood that's 446 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: high on the food chain. So if you think back 447 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: to this, you know, the big fish eating the smaller fish, 448 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: it makes sense to eat the fish or shellfish that 449 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: are lower on the food chain, and you are bioaccumulating 450 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: much less mercury. That's interesting, isn't it That you can 451 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: just think of the size of the fish and its 452 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: position on the food chain and whether or not it's 453 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: good or bad for you to eat it. And then 454 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: of course I started wondering about like, well, okay, well 455 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: what happens if you do get mercury poisoning, Because there 456 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: are these different forms of mercury, and you know some 457 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: are worse than others. But basically, if you start accumulating 458 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: too much mercury in your system, common symptoms are peripheral neuropathy. 459 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: That means suddenly you start getting tingling and numbness in 460 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: your extremities. It can also feel like an itching or 461 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: a burning or a pain, or even a sensation that 462 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: resembles small insects crawling on or under your skin. You 463 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: also get skin discoloration, like in cheeks, fingertips, and toes, swelling, shedding, 464 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: and peeling of skin. Children may also have like loss 465 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: of hair, teeth, nails, sensitivity to light, and this stuff 466 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: it starts affecting your kidneys. And so if you don't 467 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: pick up on the fact that you're getting this mercury, 468 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: too much mercury in your system, you know, long term 469 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: exposure to this to you, to your for your nervous 470 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: system and your organs will will lead to death if 471 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: not treated. So the good news is it's not like 472 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: if you break a vial of mercury and it splatters 473 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: on you that oh you're you're a dead man. Uh, 474 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: But you know, you definitely have to be careful when 475 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: you're working with this stuff. And one thing that I 476 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: thought was especially interesting is that you've heard me talk 477 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: about this before. I wrote about this in my book 478 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: The Secret Wisdom of Kucko Kon that when it comes 479 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: to mercury in general, mercury it seems to have a 480 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: reputation for being something kind of magical because rivers of 481 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: it were found in this or supposedly are in this 482 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: tomb of this great Chinese emperor. Samples of this have 483 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: been found in many pyramids around the world. They find 484 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: them in these Mayan ball filleds, and nobody can explain 485 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: exactly even how it was refined and got there. If 486 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: you look back at some of the ancient Hindu texts 487 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: where they talk about the the imanas, they supposedly had 488 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: some type of swirling, liquid mercury type substance that would 489 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: be used so that these UFOs could fly around. I've 490 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: talked before about Deglaka, this device that the Nazis were 491 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: supposedly working on, shape like a large metal bell that 492 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: had these liquid mercury like motors inside that would create 493 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: some sort of some kind of anti gravity effect. And 494 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: also when I was in Belize, I was talking to 495 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: a Mayan descendant who said that it was not uncommon 496 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,959 Speaker 1: in the old days for a Mayan shaman to prove 497 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: his worth by literally poking a little hole in one 498 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: of his veins and dropping a little liquid mercury in 499 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: there and letting it flow through his veins, and that 500 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: if you didn't get sick and die, well, then you 501 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: were a very powerful spiritual guide in shaman. And I 502 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: don't know how often people live through that, But this 503 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: is such an interesting subject because I do believe there's 504 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: some connection between metaphysical phenomena, paranormal phenomena, and the manipulation 505 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: of liquid mercury. And if you have never listened to 506 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: episode seventy two of this podcast called Strange Things, you 507 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: must go do it. It's called one of the wildest 508 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: stories I've ever heard, and it's about liquid mercury and 509 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: about this place here in Nevada called fittingly enough, Mercury, Nevada, 510 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: and what a scientist told me about experiments they do 511 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: with liquid mercury in order to turn it into a 512 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: living being with a consciousness that sometimes escapes from the 513 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: lab and they have to run out and chase it down. 514 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: And it looks like, of all things, a big blue bunny. Now, 515 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: how do we explain all this? I'm not sure, But 516 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: isn't it interesting that we've gone from this idea of 517 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: thinking about chemicals and chemistry and how it affects the 518 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: body leading us down this path toward mercury And then 519 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: a scientist saying, oh yeah, and by the way, you 520 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: can take mercury and manipulate it a certain way and 521 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: create a living being out of it. This is very 522 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: weird stuff. And so as I'm experimenting with my new device, 523 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: these things are running through my head. But when we 524 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: come back from this break, I want to tell you 525 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: about this experiment that you've probably heard of to determine 526 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: whether or not there is some physical life force that 527 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 1: can be measured leaving the body right when you die. Yes, 528 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the twenty one grams experiment and some 529 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: of my thoughts on that, the work done by doctor 530 00:38:50,680 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: Duncan McDougall, and what's this relationship between I don't know, mind, body, spirit, environment. 531 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: What kind of role do chemicals possibly play in all this? 532 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: What experiments can we do define the connections. It's all 533 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: too much, but it is strange. I'm Joshua P. Warren. 534 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 535 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be 536 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: right back. 537 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 4: Keep it here on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 538 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 4: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. The Wizard of Weird will be 539 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 4: right back. 540 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 3: We are happy to announce that our Coast to Coast 541 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 3: AM official YouTube channel has now reached over three hundred 542 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 3: thousand subscribers. 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Warren, 553 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: And you probably know that liquid mercury was used all 554 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: the time and thermometers back in the day not so 555 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: much anymore. Occasionally you'll still find a specialized laboratory thermometer 556 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: that uses liquid mercury for one reason or another. And 557 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: it's funny because I was thinking about that, and I 558 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: don't know if I've mentioned this on this show before, 559 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: but if you know, if I have, it was probably 560 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: pretty fleeting. Of course, living here in Las Vegas. In 561 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: a couple of hours, I can be in Death Valley, California, 562 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: where the highest record temperature was recorded one hundred and 563 00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: thirty four degrees fahrenheit. That's fifty seven degree celsius back 564 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirteen. So yeah, one hundred and thirty four 565 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: degrees fahrenheit. And so if you drive from Vegas to 566 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: that part of California, you pass through Baker, California, and 567 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: there you will find the world's tallest thermometer. This is 568 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: a landmark there. It's like a roadside attraction. And because 569 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: that temperature was one hundred and thirty four degrees, well, 570 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: this thermometer on the side of the road is one 571 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty four feet tall and it was built 572 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one by the Young Electric Sign Company 573 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: for a man named Willis Baker I'm sorry, a man 574 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: named Willis Herron who was a Baker businessman, and he 575 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: had this restaurant called called bun Boy apparently, and he 576 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: spent seven hundred thousand dollars which is more like one 577 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 1: and a half million dollars today to build this thermometer. 578 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 1: And it's fully functional. They have a gift shop there. 579 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: And I bring this up because it's just such an obscure, 580 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, like off the wall thing, the world's tallest thermometer, 581 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: that I found out that at one point they had 582 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: to pretty much like remodel or renovate this thing. It 583 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: got damage, winds blew it over, and so you actually 584 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: can go and buy one of the light bulbs that 585 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 1: was used in the world's tallest thermometer. And so I 586 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: went and I bought one. Of course, it's part of 587 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: my collection of weird things, right next to a little 588 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: statue of the world's tallest thermometer, right next to a 589 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: snow globe that has the world's tallest thermometer inside of it. 590 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 1: And if you want to see that stuff, it's in 591 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: the video that I shot recently. If you go to 592 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: YouTube and just type in Joshua P. Warren, I have 593 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: a channel, the Joshua pe Warren channel, and one of 594 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: the recent videos is from late twenty twenty three where 595 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: I walked around and showed off some of the weird 596 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: stuff in my personal collection, and part of it is 597 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 1: world's largest thermometer stuff. But okay, getting back to this 598 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: mystery about the connection between life and physical substances and 599 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: physical energies, I'm sure you've probably heard that some people 600 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: believe that the human soul weighs twenty one grams, and 601 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: in fact, let's see what is twenty one grams and 602 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: ounces that is it's about three quarters of an ounce. 603 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: So that gives you an idea of maybe the weight 604 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: if you drink out of a shot glass, you know, 605 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: I imagine the shot glasses. I don't know, maybe like 606 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: half full or something. But it refers to this experiment, 607 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: this scientific study published in nineteen oh seven by Duncan MacDougall, 608 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: a physicist in Massachusetts. I'm sorry. He was actually a physician, 609 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: not a physicist, and he hypothesized that souls have physical 610 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: weight and attempted to measure the mass loss by a 611 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:38,240 Speaker 1: human when the soul departed the body, and he attempted 612 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: to measure the mass change of six patients at the 613 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: moment of death. He would put the person on a 614 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: big scale of some kind and make sure that all 615 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: the bodily fluids and everything else were captured on that scale, 616 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: and then see what happened at the moment of death. 617 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: And so he did this to six people, and apparently 618 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: one of the six subjects lost three quarters of an ounce, 619 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: which is twenty one point three grams. That's what he said, 620 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,720 Speaker 1: and he stated his experiment would have to be repeated 621 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: many times before any conclusion could be obtained. And his 622 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: experiment is widely regarded as flawed and unscientific due to 623 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: the very small sample size some of the methods used, 624 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: and as well as the fact that only one of 625 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: the six subjects met the hypothesis. So a lot of 626 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: people say this is a case of selective reporting. But 627 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: despite people within the scientific community, you know, rejecting this, 628 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: his experiment popularized the concept that the soul has weight, 629 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: and that it weighs approximately twenty one grams. Now, I 630 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: have not heard of anybody in the modern era trying 631 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: to reproduce such an experiment. Let's face reality here. Look, 632 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: I understand all the problems doing this with humans, but 633 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: we eat a lot of meat in this country every day, 634 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: a lot of cows, a lot of chickens, a lot 635 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: of turkeys, and obviously none of these slaughterhouses want to 636 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: have cameras nearby, but this might be an opportunity. I 637 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 1: believe that an animal has a soul or a spirit 638 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: if a human does. Some people disagree with that. I 639 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: think that there's no difference biologically that should determine that 640 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: we have something that they don't, and so I think 641 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: it would be interesting to see this kind of thing 642 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: reproduced with animals. But I mean I'm not talking killing animals. 643 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going to kill an animal anyway, 644 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: if you're in a slaughterhouse and you're going to do 645 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: it anyway, is it possible to incorporate this experiment? But 646 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: is it also possible that you could do the same 647 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: thing with plants? A plant is a living thing. Does 648 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 1: a plant have a soul or a spirit? Can you 649 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,359 Speaker 1: measure something leaving a plant? Now that would be very, 650 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: very minuscule, But you know, we have such technology now 651 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: that I feel that well, Like, for example, I have 652 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: this high speed camera. They can shoot something like I 653 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: believe it's a thousand frames per second, so I not 654 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: too long ago, I pointed this camera at the sky 655 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: over Vegas, and within I just shot like a three 656 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: second clip, and then afterward I captured two UFOs zipping 657 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: around that we're moving too fast for the human eye 658 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,720 Speaker 1: to see, because that's what happens with the high speed camera. 659 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: It slows things down into a range so that you 660 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 1: can see them. And I think it would be interesting 661 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: to just take a high speed camera and you know, 662 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 1: just clip some plants and see if there's something that 663 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: shows up. Can you think of any other types of 664 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: cameras that haven't been used to try to capture some 665 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: vision of the human spirit or or the plant spirit, 666 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: or any of this stuff. I wonder about that. I 667 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 1: wonder if it's been done, but it's been too controversial, 668 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 1: and so it gets done behind closed doors. Let me 669 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: squeeze in a listener email. I will not use this 670 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: man's name. He says. I live in Maryland and he 671 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: is a personal trainer and musician. He says, I am 672 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,359 Speaker 1: having negative energy in the house, and I feel there 673 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: is something behind it that's very detrimental to me and 674 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 1: my wife, she's from Honduras. We smudge the house with 675 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,240 Speaker 1: traditional sage, et cetera, and I ask its name tonight, 676 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,439 Speaker 1: try to open up communication. And something that came through 677 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 1: very clear was oh bazu, A bazu, he says, never 678 00:49:54,400 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: heard before. And he says, now, this thing called pazuzu 679 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: possessed me when I was fourteen in a classroom and 680 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: chairs flew around the room and the chalkboard was filled 681 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: with ancient Hebrew from end of the days. And this 682 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 1: is by no means some joke. I thought this was 683 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: way behind me and I want to have a family 684 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 1: with my wife. Will you please consider helping me. I 685 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: listen to you and respect you so much. Can I 686 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 1: beat this thing or not? Well, let me just say 687 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 1: that here's the reality. Well, Zozo is a name that, 688 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: of course Darren Evans talked about being some kind of 689 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: a demonic force, and I just really don't know if 690 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,479 Speaker 1: we're talking about the same thing. I know Pazuzu goes 691 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 1: back to the Exorcist movie. It's been fictionalized, but I 692 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: gave him the same advice that I'll give anybody who 693 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: listens to this. I did a podcast all about how 694 00:50:54,280 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: to prevent or create paranormal activity. It's episode eleven this 695 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: podcast called Strange Things. And if you think that you're 696 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 1: having some issues. And I'm not a ghostbuster, I'm not 697 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: an exorcistem but if you think you're having an issue, 698 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: or if you have a friend who's having an issue, 699 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: go listen to episode eleven of this show, Strange Things. 700 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: It's totally free. But one of the best things we 701 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 1: can all do is try to end the show together 702 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,879 Speaker 1: with the positive mindset. Take a deep breath, relax. Here 703 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 1: is the good Fortune tone. That's it for this edition 704 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: of the show. 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