1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. All right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, 4 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: brought to you by on X. We are here for 5 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: a podcast that I am really damn excited to be recording. 6 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: Uh it's it's me here and the Nine Fingered Wonder 7 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: Dan Johnson. Dan, we are here for a celebratory conversation. 8 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: I know, if it wasn't so early in the day, 9 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: I think we both should be hammering some beers while 10 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: we record this. Who says who says? We're not right? Okay, 11 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: I guess you are on Eastern time, yep. Um, yeah, dude, 12 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: Today we are talking success stories. Um, you killed a 13 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: great buck in Iowa. So I want to hear about 14 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: how your rutcation went and how you killed that deer 15 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: and dive into all that. And then, as you know, um, 16 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: my three year story chasing the buck I called tran 17 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: just came to a close too, So I want to 18 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: recap that entire saga. Um, dive into details, dive into 19 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: how it ended and some of the lessons learned along 20 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: the way and all that kind of stuff. So this 21 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: is this is uh man, it's a culmination with a 22 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: lot of stuff for both of us. You know, Yeah, 23 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: I love the I love the text messages. You know, 24 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: the got him that's it and instantly we I know 25 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: what you're talking about, right, And uh, I think I 26 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: threw you a text when I shot mine too. It's 27 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: like arrow launched or whatever, and those are the text 28 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: those Yeah, those are the best ones. That's it's It's 29 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: what I enjoy probably more than anything. This time of 30 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: years is just you just wait and wait and hope 31 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: that there's gonna be some good news from someone and 32 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: when it comes waiting it's what we work for all 33 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: year long. Man, So you want to should we just 34 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: get into it? I mean, we got a lot to cover. Um. 35 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: I do have one quick kid story that I have 36 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: to tell and it is Yeah, it's a So if 37 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: you're the kind of person who bitches about this part 38 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: of the show, fast forward about two minutes and then 39 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: I should be done. So um, so don't fast forward. 40 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: This is the good stuff, all right. So I'm rotating laundry, right. 41 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: I take the laundry out of the washer and I 42 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: put it in the dryer, hit start go away for 43 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: about four hours, do something come back? Open. I just 44 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm getting angry even thinking about it. Open the door 45 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: and someone had ad put a entire canister of glitter 46 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: in their pocket and it is now I don't know 47 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: how many times. I don't know how many times I'm 48 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: gonna have to dry those clothes to try to get 49 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: it out of everything and take the filter out. It 50 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: is all over the place. And I don't know if 51 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: you've ever been so so angry with your children that 52 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: you skip the anchor and you go right into this 53 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: deep dark depression because yelling Adam isn't gonna do anything, 54 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: can change Nope, And you know, you get the dad 55 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: son of a bit. And then and then oh man, yeah, 56 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: all I did was shower and she's just like figures. 57 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: And then when she walked away like she just like 58 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: kind of left it in my hands. You guys are 59 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: that phase in life right now where it's just like, 60 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: oh yeah, another ship on the floor that we need 61 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: to deal with exactly exactly. Oh wow, man, Mark, it 62 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: must have been full because it is all over I 63 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: mean we had a fleece blanket in with that load 64 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: of laundry. I don't know if it's ever gonna be 65 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: like if if I'm afraid to take it out of 66 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: the dryer, because it's probably just gonna do one of 67 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: those things where it just continually spreads all over the 68 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: house until it's literally everywhere. So the only way this 69 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: could have been better is if this had been you 70 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: drying your hunting clothes and all of you was covered 71 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: and glitter. That would be the one way this could 72 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: be better. Imagine you're hunting closed covered in glitter and 73 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: dear just pegging you from the sunlight bouncing off, and 74 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: there's really it happens like if it happened like November four, 75 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: So you have to hunt the next day. You're not 76 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: gonna not hunt, and you're not gonna have time to 77 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: get new closer to deal with it. So you're just 78 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: stuck out there with pink glitter everywhere, and then you 79 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: shoot a buck and you have to take a picture 80 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: with your glittery camo too. That would be Oh, but 81 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: you would deserve it, man. You know what I would try. 82 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: I would try to market the gimmick uh somehow and 83 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: make money off of it. Oh, there's always an angle. 84 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: There's always an angle, man. Is that is amazing? That's right? 85 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: Back into the world world. Huh, you had all this 86 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: grand hunting success and then right back to domesticated life. 87 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: There's no easing into anything anymore. It is straight kick 88 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: to the nuts every single morning when I wake up 89 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: dead life. Welcome to your life, buddy. You should have 90 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: pulled out so so so tell me about the glory 91 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: days back when you used to sit in a tree 92 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: and see big Bucks and uh weren't worried about glitter 93 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: bombs in your laundry? How did how how did the 94 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: rotation kickoff? Man? It seemed like it was fast and furious. 95 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: So here's what I'm gonna here. Here is my I'm 96 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: gonna say two things. South winds and warm temps is 97 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: what I deal dealt with. So I'm gonna preface this 98 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: conversation with a conversation that we had all the way 99 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: back on episode seventy eight with Matt Ross the science 100 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: behind um the white tail rut or whatever. Some guy 101 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: uh two days ago hit me up and it was like, dude, 102 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: I love that episode because you kind of call out 103 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: some things that people think are uh you know, like 104 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: I think we talked about moon phase, we talked about 105 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: warm tempts. We talked about weather patterns, deer movement, all 106 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: of these things. So I go back and I listened 107 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: to it, and I'm I'm reflecting back on the seven 108 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: days it took for me to harvest my deer this year, 109 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: and I'm can back. I'm like, dude, oh, what Matt 110 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: said is is really right? And if I'm open to 111 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: observation and looking around, even in warmer temps, I I 112 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: would say that I saw equal deer compared to last 113 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: year's rut, which was below average temperatures. So I'm sitting 114 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: here thinking to myself, like, man, I should maybe I 115 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: should stay out for a night or because the temps 116 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: are worm Well, I didn't do that, and I saw 117 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: the same amount of deer. The only thing that gets 118 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: tried that started to get tricky with this rut vacation 119 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: was that I had so many south winds in a 120 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: row that I was worried I was gonna bump some 121 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: of my best spots, and I ended up having to 122 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: really play off a handful of hunts, like a morning 123 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: hunt or an evening hunt and goes somewhere so where 124 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: else where. I knew it wasn't the best option, but 125 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: I knew I knew that I would have a better 126 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: chance at connecting with a deer un let's say the 127 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: next morning, as opposed to maybe sitting in that place, 128 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: uh back to back for three days in a row 129 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: or whatever. So I opted to go to a different 130 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: south wind area that would be like choice number three 131 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: or four and hit choice number one after it sat 132 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: for a couple of days. Right, dude, I saw great. 133 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: I was seeing great deer all, you know, Like I 134 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: saw some shooters uh way in the distance. Um. I 135 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: passed a couple of four year olds this year, uh 136 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: that had less than desirable racks. Um, I passed a 137 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: couple of really good three year olds this year in 138 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: that time frame. And I did it all without freezing 139 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: my toes off. So I mean, I wish I could 140 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: sit here and say I had some hardcore strategy story 141 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: for you about how I, um did things different or 142 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: made all these game plans and chess moves to try 143 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: to to shoot a deer. Um. And I'll get to 144 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: this the kill story here in a second. But man, 145 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: it's like I just follow through, followed through with what 146 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: my goal was, and that was check trail cameras, look 147 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: for fresh sign cycle through my stands. Uh, you know, 148 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: the best possible stands on the wind direction that I'm giving, 149 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: make the best choices for access routes, and uh, you know, 150 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: run and gun whenever I needed to, and I put 151 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: myself in position of some really good deer. The only 152 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: thing is the big deer that I would was chasing 153 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: did not show up while I was in the tree 154 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: stand for that area. So real quick, those best stands. 155 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I know we've talked about in this place 156 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: in the past, but can you illustrate, like, what are 157 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: these things look like? This is all on pinch points. 158 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: These are all back in the timber, I'm assuming, But 159 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: were you mostly do em betting area sits, transition, etcetera, etcetera. 160 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: Yep of my hunts. So I'll tell you this an 161 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: evening and a morning of that seven days, So two 162 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: hunts out of fourteen hunts resulted in me hunting, betting 163 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: down wind, of betting down wind of betting or or 164 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: flanking betting, uh, and putting myself What I would say 165 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: would be where betting an edge connect? Does that make sense? Yeah? 166 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: So you're saying all but two or just two were 167 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: betting everyone except to OK. Yeah, that makes sense then Ye, 168 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: So my access points or my access routes were on point. 169 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean I took no liberties there. I was played 170 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: that wind hard and with a south wind, you can, 171 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, and in some of the areas you've hunted 172 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: them throughout the years, you get really comfortable with and 173 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: knowing what the deer are gonna do, how they're gonna 174 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: do it. You know what the thermals are doing, if 175 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: the sun's out or if the attempts are where they 176 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: need to be. And uh man, I had some really 177 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: cool encounters with a lot of deer. I didn't get busted, 178 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: and it just it was one of those It was 179 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: really fun to be in the tree that first week 180 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: in November watching all the action happened. You know, I 181 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: watched the three year olds and and some of the 182 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: four year olds really do that rut thing where they 183 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: were chasing those around, and you know, watching them just 184 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: dive in and out of betting areas all morning long. 185 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: It's settled down probably about ten thirty ish eleven o'clock, 186 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: I'd get out of the stand, go to a new spot, 187 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: and then pick right back up about two thirty ish. 188 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: Uh and just kind of nothing really crazy where one 189 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: dough brings about fifteen deer through, but more of this 190 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: one on one interaction where you know there may be 191 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: spike buck following a three year old or something like that. So, Uh, 192 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: I really focused heavy this year because I felt like, 193 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: for some reason, I felt like the warm weather was 194 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: going to keep them out moving around all day long. 195 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: So what did I do. I went to where the 196 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: concentration of deer movement is going to be the highest, 197 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: and that's betting areas. So I put myself down wind 198 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: or flanking with a flanking wind into betting areas, and 199 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: man had some really good encounters and and uh had 200 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: a blast doing it. And you were passing on these 201 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: good bucks? Was that just because well you're you're seeing 202 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: these good bucks passing on them? Was this because the 203 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: best bucks that you had on camera were still showing 204 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: up and you believe they were there? Or where was 205 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: your head out with that? Did you have a couple 206 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: of mine? Yeah? So that buck I passed last year. Uh, 207 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: he was a really beautiful three year old, probably in 208 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: that one forty class maybe one forty five class. Uh, 209 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: he was in eleven, and so this year he blew 210 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: up to a I'm gonna say low one seventies as 211 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: a as a four year old. He could be five, 212 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: who knows, but he made the hit list for sure. 213 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: And then there was the buck that I ended up shooting. 214 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: I had maybe one picture of him throughout the entire summer, 215 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: but the other guy who hunts the property had pictures 216 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: of him all summer and all October and all November. Right, 217 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: So we kind of put our trail cameras in a 218 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: little bit different of places, um, just so we're not 219 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: really overlapping each other, and we've kind of had a 220 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: We communicate now more than we used to in the past. 221 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: So you know, I'll send him a pick of a 222 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: deer and say, hey, you run into this guy, or 223 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: he sends me the deer that he kills, and I 224 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: send him the picks that he kills. And then we 225 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: exchanged any trail camera photos that we have of these deer. Yep. 226 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 1: So it was you know, I had definitely the one 227 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: hit lister on camera number two and number three. Uh 228 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: you know both were big ten pointers. Uh, No, one 229 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: was a nine and one was a ten. And so 230 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: I go to check trail cameras the first day back. 231 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: You know, I hunted up here the morning of like 232 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: November two, and the evening of November two before that hunt, 233 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: I went and I checked all my trail cameras, pulled 234 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: all the cards, went looked at him all on the computer, 235 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: and number two and number three were both broken all 236 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: the way. I mean, like dramatic. You know. They were 237 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: just a G two and a main beam, so they 238 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: had knocked off a ton of points. One broke off 239 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: almost his entire side. So number two and number three 240 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: were to me, we're both like, you know, I don't 241 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: even want to hunt the areas where these dyer running 242 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: because I don't want to shoot. I don't want to 243 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: shoot a broken buck. I want to shoot, you know, 244 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: something that's put together and that just that what this does, 245 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: is it now if these deers survive into the next year, 246 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: it automatically takes him out of the equation and now 247 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: they can come back. Right. So I wasn't really into 248 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: shooting a broken buck, and so I stayed out of 249 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: that area and UH focused my attention on a couple 250 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: other places where the big one had run a couple 251 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: of times he was kind of hit and miss on 252 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: trail cameras and let's see and then I went back 253 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: to the one betting area that I shot my dear 254 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: last year, just kind of hoping that Natalie Charlie would 255 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: show up, right, you know, almost like holy field, Yeah, 256 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,239 Speaker 1: wish on a prayer, maybe he'll be there again. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 257 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you thought about that too, where it's like, 258 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: well I really don't know where to go, so let 259 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: me go to us hit, let me go to a 260 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: historically good area or stand location, and let's just see 261 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: what happens, right, Yeah, And and basically that was it 262 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: I had. I got there and one of my cell 263 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: cams had been stolen, and I got pissed, and and uh, 264 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: I was hoping that he would show up on one 265 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: of those cameras. But if he shows up on that camera, 266 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: he typically shows up on a couple of other cameras 267 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: on the farm. He did not, So, um, I think 268 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: it's fair to say he has either gone and disappeared 269 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: to go somewhere else, or he's been you know, shot 270 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: and killed or died of a disease or whatever, because 271 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: typically deer stick around and they don't necessarily come back 272 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: if they if they're gone, If that makes sense. Yeah, 273 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: So so I hit that betting area up a couple 274 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: of times, and that's my favorite. That's my favorite betting 275 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: area to hunt now, because the wind does something so 276 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: awesome in there. And we I'm sitting at the actual 277 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: top of a ridge and on this ridge, it's real 278 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: thick on top and it created opens up and creates 279 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: this edge and along this edge where this edge meets 280 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: this I called a spur ridge. And it's a really 281 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: small terrain feature, really small ridge that flanks a bigger ridge. 282 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: And sometimes there are those terrain features are so small 283 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: that it doesn't show up on topographic maps, or if 284 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: it does, it's so subtle that you really need to 285 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: focus on what you're looking for in order in order 286 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: to identify it. Now, the closer that the topo lines 287 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: are to each other, the easier it is to tell. 288 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: But if they're you know, they're you know, thirty ft 289 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: apart or a hundred feet apart you and you'll never 290 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: see it. Right. So I sat there, I passed a 291 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: really good three year old and then basically sat on 292 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: a really big ridge where the south wind blowing over 293 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: the top of the deer and the does just weren't 294 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: coming through there yet, which took which tells me that, 295 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, they're still they're not getting pushed all over 296 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: the place yet. And so I went back to um 297 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: that main betting area again. And you know, like I 298 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: said before I even started rambling, here is I wish. 299 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: I wish I could sit here and break down everything 300 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: for you. But at the end of the day, it's, uh, 301 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: most of my success this year was just dumb luck explain. Yeah, 302 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: so it's it's November seven. I don't even remember what 303 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: I did that morning hunt. I think I uh, I 304 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: hunted that big ridge again, and that I went and 305 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: I checked some trail cameras, went back home, did some 306 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: work on the computer. And I'll be honest, man, I 307 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: wasn't hitting the timber until two thirty. And some of 308 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: the times I wasn't even I wasn't even set up 309 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: in my tree until three o'clock or a little after three. 310 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: And just because I was trying to get work done 311 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: at home, so I wasn't up until midnight trying to 312 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: you know, get you know, get work done and then 313 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: wake up at four and get back out out there. 314 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: So so I ended up driving to Uh. I was 315 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: gonna do a hanging hunt on where a corner of 316 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: the marsh meets uh like a tree fell over a fence, 317 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: and they really crossed there a lot. And throughout the years, 318 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: I've had really good trail camera pictures of really good 319 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: deer crossing through there. My number one hit lister had 320 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: been through there, I think two days before I got 321 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: to the farm. So I was just kind of like, 322 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: it's a new south wind. Um, it's a new place 323 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: on a south wind. I can flank their travel real hard, 324 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: easy access. And so I parked at the end of 325 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,239 Speaker 1: this little sliver a timber inside of it was in 326 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: an egg field, but once they combine it, they let 327 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: the cattle in, so then it turns into a cattle pasture. 328 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: So I I said, man, there's no need for me 329 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: to walk so far. I'm gonna pull up about two 330 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: yards closer and just save me, you know, three minutes 331 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: of walking or whatever. So I put my I load up, 332 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: and I'm getting ready to go to that fence crossing. 333 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: And what I I get loaded up stand bow, backpack, everything, 334 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: and I've been running my osonics in my backpack as 335 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm walking to and front of my tree stands. And 336 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: and that's a little foreshadowing because I think that actually helped. 337 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: But I park about so I get out of my truck, 338 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: I loaded up, start walking, and I'm about eight two 339 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: hundred yards. This is no joke. A d two hundred 340 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: yards away from my truck, and it's pretty windy out 341 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: and I looked to my right and I'm looking in 342 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: this big thick section of timber. Inside it's like just 343 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: a pocket of timber. And I said, man, that's gotten 344 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: thick throughout the years. I bet you there's some deer 345 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: that feel real comfortable in there. I took two more steps, 346 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: and I see times come up out of these bushes 347 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: and then just come straight back down and come up, 348 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: and they come down. So this buck is raking a tree, 349 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: and I go, oh my god, that's my number one buck. 350 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: He's right there, and so I I I get lucky 351 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: here and there's a giant, giant tree right in front 352 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: of me. So I just take one big step and 353 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: now I can see his back half, but he can't 354 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: see me because I'm behind this big tree and I'm 355 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: abe and the wind's blowing right at him. I mean, 356 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: the wind is going right at him. I slide my 357 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: backpack off, get my arrow knocked to put my release 358 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: on and I creep around and I I couldn't see 359 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: him anymore, but I kind of I thought I saw 360 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: some fur something, and I click the I range the 361 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: bush in front of him nineteen yards. I range the 362 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: bush behind him twenty nine yards, and he's right up 363 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: against he's he's closer to the back end of that gap. 364 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: So I turned my dial to I got a single pin. 365 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: So I turned my dial to yards, draw my bow, 366 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: get my uh kisser button anchored, and I step out 367 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: and his nose is straight up in the air. He's 368 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 1: caught something right, like what what? What is this? Like? 369 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: You could tell his body language was changed. He wasn't 370 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: rubbing the tree anymore, and he had since kind of 371 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: quartered away, but he was looking straight back, you know, 372 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: like sometimes when they itched their aunt their back with 373 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: their antlers or their their grooming themselves, their heads turned 374 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: all the way. And he was like that. And I 375 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: stepped right out. I'm already drawn, and his noses in 376 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: the air, and I'm like, man, I was well before that. 377 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: I was shaken so bad because I thought this was 378 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: number I thought this was number one, and I was 379 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: missing the D loop on my on my bowstring. With 380 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: my release because I was shaking so bad. And I 381 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: said to myself, Johnson, settled down, because if you mess 382 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: this up, you're not getting a crack at him again 383 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: this year. So handle it. So I took a deep breath, 384 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: got composed, drew back, step out anchor, and let it fly. 385 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: And he me he I heard. I could hear the 386 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: thud through through the wind, just like this little best 387 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: sound mule kick. And he runs off, and I was 388 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: so fired up. And when he was running away that 389 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: deer looked running away, I was like, oh my god, 390 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: what did I just do? Like never happened. First deer, 391 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: first deer I ever shot on the ground. And so 392 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: anyway he ends up. He ends up diving down into 393 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: this pocket running across a cattle pasture. I can see 394 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: my arrow hanging out of him, and I thought to myself, 395 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, I did not get the penetration that 396 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: I wanted on that. I'm gonna say a little. I'm 397 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: gonna say less than half an arrow. And I'm like, 398 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: but if it's that much, you're still it's still a 399 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 1: good soul. I just stop what I'm doing. I pull 400 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: out my phone and I call one of my buddies 401 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: up and I'm like, dude, I just shot what I 402 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: think is an absolute giant. Everybody at the time that 403 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: I knew my my buddy who helps me drag out 404 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: sometimes down there he had COVID. My mom and my 405 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: stepdad they both had COVID. So I was sleeping in 406 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: the garage during rut vacation. I wasn't in the house. Yeah, 407 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: so I I I call it my buddies. He's like, 408 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: I'll be there, and I said, I'm gonna go to impact. 409 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if there's blood, and then I'm gonna 410 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: back out and then I'll wait for you. Well, I dropped. 411 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: After I hang up with him, I called my wife, 412 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: told her what happened. Dropped down into where I shot him. 413 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: Really good blood, like perfect bubbly bubble blood right like 414 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: and and like good splots of it. And so I 415 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: end up following it for ten yards, following it for 416 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: twenty yards, and then I just it starts to open 417 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: up and it's really good and it's it's for a 418 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: for a seasoned hunter who has been on a lot 419 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: of blood trails, it is a no brainer lung shot. 420 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: Now my question, I had to myself was is it 421 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: one lung or is it both lungs, because he was 422 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: kind of quartering, you know, quartering away at the time. 423 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: And so I back out and I wait a handful 424 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: of hours for my buddy to come and and uh 425 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: help me act this deer. And he brought one of 426 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: his buddies to another guy that I know, and long 427 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: story short, we start picking up this blood trail, man, 428 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: and uh it just it's very good blood, very good blood. 429 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: Now we're starting to see where there's two blood spots 430 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: every bound, right, So there's there's two holes in this 431 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: deer somewhere right, and he is starting to bleed really 432 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: black bad. We find the arrow and it's broken off right, 433 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: and there's blood all the way up to the fletchings. 434 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: So that tells me as he's running he kicked he 435 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: kicks it out and it broke somehow. And then we 436 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: get into the timber where we where he disappeared from 437 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: me after I shot him. Right, that's probably a hundred yards, 438 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: so I watched him run a hundred yards before he 439 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: disappeared into this really thick, nasty little area again. And 440 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: uh um, the blood trail not gonna lie. It's awesome. 441 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: When you can just at a normal walk follow it, 442 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: no hands and knees, grid searching, just blood all over 443 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: the place up here, absolutely absolutely, and uh, man, we 444 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: walk up on we walk up on him, and uh 445 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: the shot ended up being one lung front side lung 446 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: and trachia and jugular. So he he just got smoked, 447 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: he got destroyed, and uh he ended up running about 448 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: a hundred and hundred twenty yards maybe and then pile 449 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: it up and uh, and then you know, you get 450 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: that moment that is I don't know, man, it's one 451 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: of those it's it's a surreal moment the first time 452 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: you ever get to touch the animal that you just killed. 453 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't have the same feeling for turkeys. I don't 454 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: have the same feeling for fish or any other animal 455 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: that I've ever hunted as far as you know, big game. 456 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: But that moment where you get to grab his antlers 457 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: and pull his head up and sit down and put 458 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: your hands on this animal and appreciate it, it's uh, 459 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: it's just there's no words, man, you can't. It's different 460 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: for everybody. And uh, I just felt so happy at 461 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: that moment. And and it wasn't my number one buck, 462 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: but it did not matter. It's if we're gonna sit 463 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: here and put numbers or a level to it. It's 464 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: probably my second biggest buck I've ever shot. And it's 465 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: a beautiful deer with awesome characteristics, and he's a beautiful 466 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: ten pointer four year old, and uh I'm just I'm 467 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: geeked out, man, you should be that he's a heck 468 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: of a deer and a crazy story how it came together. 469 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, it's not like you put 470 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: together this master plan for him. But it's really cool 471 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: in its own unique way. When sometimes you have these 472 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: crazy things happened that you find yourself in and you 473 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: can take advantage of it, that's that's awesome in its 474 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: own right. So I'll tell you what what what I 475 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: will say is that from a strategy standpoint, I was 476 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: going to where he had already crossed, so he was 477 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: already on his feet. He came through the area that 478 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to hunt, and uh so from a strategy standpoint, 479 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: I guess if you want to say I was going 480 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: to the right location, it's just he beat me to 481 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: it and I ended up shooting him on the ground. 482 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: Well well done, my friend. Congratulations on a another successful 483 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: Iowa season. Yeah, man, I I'm so happy. The best 484 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: and one of the other parts is today today I 485 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: picked my buck up from the processor and there, my 486 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: my deep freeze is now full again. And that puts 487 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: an equal smile on my face as it does walking 488 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: up and touching him for the first time. Gotta have 489 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: that full freezer. Yeah. So, um, my story isn't crazy, right, 490 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: first time I ever saw this buck on the hoof probably, um, 491 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: I got a shed laying out. It might be from him, 492 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: it might not be, who knows, not a big deal. 493 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: But this uh, this dear name Tran, that's uh that 494 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: you've been following for a handful of years, kind of 495 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: met his match. When did you end up shooting him? 496 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: What day was it? Shot him? Sunday? November I think 497 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 1: would have been the date. Um, that's what it was. 498 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: And that's after the rifle season. Yeah, in rifle season. Okay, 499 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: so rifle season eight? So did you shoot this with 500 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: a bow or with a rifle. Let's wait till we 501 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: get to the story. Dan oh, okay, ship, Sorry, I 502 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: know I should know better than this. So, so why 503 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: don't you kick it? Kick it off? Go all the 504 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: way back? So This story begins in two thousand eighteen. 505 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: So that year, if you were call, was the year 506 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: after I found another buck who I hunted for a 507 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: long time, holy Field. I found his shed that spring, 508 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: and so I thought maybe that buck was back for 509 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: a year number four. So I planning for him, looking 510 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: for him, and you know, the summer. The summer arrived, 511 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 1: he didn't show up. In September arrived, he didn't show up. 512 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: October arrived, and he didn't show up. I got pictures 513 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: of a big eight pointer. I'm like, maybe that's him, 514 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: but it was kind of like weird pictures, like foggy 515 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: or not great lighting, different things. I couldn't really tell. 516 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: But he had tall G twos and I'm wondering, maybe possibly, 517 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: but probably not well that buck I was getting pictures 518 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: of was this, dear. I eventually did get clear pictures 519 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: of him and realized, no, it's definitely not holy Field. 520 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: This is a new buck um, or at least one 521 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: that I hadn't identified in the past. And he was 522 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: like just a really nice tall eight point with kind 523 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: of curving times um. And my guest was he was 524 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: just a cool three year old and I pinned pointed 525 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: him as is like the best up and coming buck 526 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,479 Speaker 1: ahead in the farm. Right then, I started seeing him 527 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: quite a bit, got some cool video of him, UM, 528 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: and knew that he would be the deer that if 529 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: he was around next year, he'd be one I would 530 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: probably the best buck that I have around based off 531 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: what I was seeing. So I started keeping tabs every 532 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: time I saw him, every time I got a daylight 533 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: trail Cara Pitcher. I started noting it way back then, 534 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: even though I wasn't trying to kill him. UM. Fast forward, 535 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: you know, later into the year, the whole frank thing happened. 536 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: If you remember, this really big ten pointer showed up 537 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: on Halloween that year, UM, and I hunted him for 538 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: a month and ended up seeing him on the evening 539 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: of December. It's like the seventh, eighth or ninth one, 540 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: somewhere right around there. And Trans showed up that night 541 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: and I passed on him at like sixty yards. Um. 542 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: This was this was the late firearms season, and UM 543 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: and passed on Tran that night. Uh. And then like 544 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: twenty minutes later, the big guy showed up and killed him. 545 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: So that was basically year one UH with Tran. I 546 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: guess I should make one other point, I did actually 547 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: see him in person once in the summer and got 548 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: velvet video of him. Just didn't connect the dots until 549 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: later in the year. But but he was there in 550 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: the summer, was there all through the fall, and was 551 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: of of bucks of that caliber, Like he was other 552 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: than Frank, who was this big new buck, Tran was 553 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: the best dear. There was one three year old that 554 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: was him that was shown up a bunch and so 555 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: I kind of just knew, like he's the one. If 556 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: he makes it, he'll be the one next year. Um question, Yeah, alright, 557 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: So as you start to calculate or put together an inventory, 558 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: and you know, like Frank that one year was your 559 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: number one target buck. Um, Holy Field in the past 560 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: has been your number one target buck. How much thought 561 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: do you give to these other dear throughout the season 562 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: or what are they doing while you're in the process 563 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: of hunting your number one target buck. Well, the thing is, 564 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: because I'm hunting such small spots, there's almost never more 565 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: than one deer I would actually shoot. Um, Like the 566 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: main farm my hunt is a little over eighty acres, 567 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: but half of that's just open crop field next to 568 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: a road. So really it's like forty some acres that 569 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm actually hunting, so there's only ever one. They'll sometimes 570 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: be some other bucks that are up and comers I'm 571 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: keeping tabs on, but I've rarely have I had like 572 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: multiple definite mature bucks that are there consistently that I 573 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: could actually like put a game plan together. There's usually 574 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: one that calls at home. UM. I also got permission 575 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: a few years ago on on part of a small 576 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: like twenty acre piece that I could start hunting a 577 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: little bit too, so that gave me a little bit 578 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 1: more um. But basically what I do is usually there's 579 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 1: one mature one that I'm after, and I'm keeping tabs 580 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 1: on him hunting him. But if I get a buck 581 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: that's like a really nice two year old or a 582 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: three year old, I start kind of keeping tabs because 583 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: it seems like, from what I've seen this area, usually 584 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: one buck of that caliberal caliber will make it through. 585 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,479 Speaker 1: So there might be three bucks, three or four deer 586 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: maybe that I'll see in a given year that are 587 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: two or three years old. It used to be all 588 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: two year olds. Now we're getting to the point where 589 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: I'm seeing some three year olds. Um, But I'm I'm 590 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: passing on those now. So in any given year, there's 591 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: maybe one buck that's four, and then there's a couple 592 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: two or three year olds that I'm watching. I'm observing 593 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: when i'm hunting, I'm paying attention to what they're doing. Um, 594 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 1: but I'm not actually gonna shoot him. So in two 595 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen, that was the story with Tran. He 596 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: was the one deer like that. Um. And you know, 597 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: coming into the following winter, I thought, all right, man, 598 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: this is the year. Twenty nineteen is gonna be the 599 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: year of Tran. I'm really hoping he made it. I 600 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: really hope I can find the sheds. I'm gonna get 601 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: after it hard. I'm gonna review everything I learned about 602 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: him last year, put together a game plan. So shed 603 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: season came, I pounded the timber, I got permission on 604 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: neighboring properties to shed hunt those spots. Never found him. Um. 605 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: Fast forward into the summer and in August he shows 606 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: up in the field. Was a being field next to 607 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: one of these places, and I saw him and instantly 608 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: you could tell as him. Um. Just essentially the exact 609 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: same formation was last year. Just everything bigger, um, awesome, tall, tight, 610 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: eight pointer, Um, biggest eight point I've ever seen in 611 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: this area before. So he was he was awesome, and 612 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: I was smitten um. And then the whole thing was 613 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: reviewing all that Dad I had thinking through, Okay, when 614 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: did he start showing up in daylight? Where were the 615 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: daylight pictures? Where did I see him in person? There 616 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: was a lot of activity with him towards the back 617 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: of the properties I had permission on, so I kind 618 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: of assumed that that might be, like, there's there's a 619 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: couple of different betting areas on some neighboring properties that 620 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: I kind of hunt around, and I'm playing movement going 621 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: in and out of those spots, and it was the 622 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: back betting area of this eight acres that I thought, Man, 623 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: he seems to be spending more time back there. So 624 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: my assumption was that that's when that would happen. But 625 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 1: we get to Oh, I guess it would have been 626 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: opening day. It was opening day, opening day of two 627 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen UM, and it was a hot one. It 628 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: was gonna be really warm, way above temperare, way above 629 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 1: average temperatures. But the next day, day two of the season, 630 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: was going to be this big cold friend hitting. So 631 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: every year. I always look at opening days like one 632 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: of my best chances in this area. It seems like 633 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: year after year there's if there's a good buck around, 634 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: they'll be active in late September, in the first day 635 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: of October, maybe the second day of October. But then 636 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,720 Speaker 1: pretty quickly they change when all these other people around 637 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: me start hunting and I start hunting. Um. But because 638 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, because I it was a little bit too 639 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: stuck on the weather and and folks, I know you 640 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: know these you've heard some of these stories. I want 641 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: to put it all in one place so we can 642 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: kind of see the whole traject three. So bear with 643 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: me as you hear some of these stories. Again, I've 644 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: been talking about this guy for years, I know that. 645 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: But as we've talked about last year, I decided to 646 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: observe on night number one. So I sat on a 647 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: hill on the ground a couple hundred yards away from 648 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: this front food source, this actual little food plot system 649 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: I've built specifically for these types of scenarios, tight to 650 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: a betting area in the neighbors. UM. I didn't have 651 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: any much good cover on my side, so I kind 652 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: of carved in these food plots and playing all these 653 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: sorghum strips and UM created a really cool zone of 654 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: food inside could cover right next to the best betting 655 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: and it's year and year out turned out to be 656 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: a pretty good spot UM to get at least an 657 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: encounter or two per year with one of these good bucks. 658 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: And opening night, I decided, I'm gonna watch him afar 659 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: and then strike the next day with this big cold 660 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: front hitting, and that's the night I thought that the 661 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: big boy might hit that spot. Well, long story short, 662 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: I sat that night and watched this front food plot 663 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: and Tran shows up that night even with the warm 664 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: temperatures and walks right past the stand that I would 665 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: otherwise have hunted. So that was a bummer and one 666 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: in the next day and he didn't show up the 667 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: next night, but another really nice three year old did, 668 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: like a hundred and thirty class nine pointer, and I 669 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: passed him. That's the best buck I've ever passed up 670 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,240 Speaker 1: to that point. So it's cool that a really nice 671 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,479 Speaker 1: up and comers showed up um and and we usually 672 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: don't have multiple deer like that, but that year, so 673 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: en there was Tran, who I believed to be four, 674 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: and then there was two other like hundred thirty class 675 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: three year olds UM at that point in the year. 676 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: So it was a weird thing and that, for whatever reason, 677 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: we've had more good bucks survive. UM. And I was 678 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: just at a new place in my hunting journey where 679 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: I was gonna pass on deer like that. But it 680 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 1: felt crazy having a deer like that, which is really 681 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: top tier deer for Michigan, having a fifteen yards broadside 682 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: and not shoot. But I I knew I had to 683 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 1: save one of my buck tags for the back forty 684 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: and I knew I wanted to save one of my 685 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: buck tags for trains, so that's what I did. UM. Question, 686 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: So do you feel that holy Field was the dominant 687 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: buck in this little area that you have access to? 688 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: He definitely was for that two years when he was 689 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: mature that I was hunting him, and I watched him 690 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 1: for three Frank, same question, Frank. He really didn't live 691 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: on me. He showed up out of nowhere that the 692 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: year that holy Field disappeared. So the previous two years 693 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: I only had like one sighting of him. I got 694 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: one trail camera picture, Frank, three years before I shot him. 695 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 1: I saw him one time in December the year before 696 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: I shot him, and in the year I shot him, 697 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: he showed up in a big way on Halloween and 698 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: basically stuck around for a month. So for that month 699 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: he was the dominant guy there. But the rest of 700 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: the season there really wasn't a dominant buck. Okay, So 701 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: we'll just say that dear though, was the dominant buck 702 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: in the area for that moment. Yeah, okay. And then 703 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: the other the buck train this year dominant buck. Uh. 704 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: Starting twenty nine he was the man. Okay. Cool. So 705 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: the question I have for you then is do you 706 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: what what is it about this area, this property that 707 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 1: you hunt, whether it's the management that you do, whether 708 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 1: it's the does the terrain, whatever, what is it about 709 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: this little area that brings in and above average dominant 710 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: buck for Michigan to stay in this little area for 711 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: a given period of time. Yeah, So I think I've 712 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: got a set of circumstances that that's that's nice to have. Um, 713 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: even though it's a small property that I can hunt, 714 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: I've got a couple of things. I've got myself who 715 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 1: and I'm the only person who hunts my little piece 716 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 1: that I have sole permission on. The eight um, the 717 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: eight five or whatever it is. Um, So I am 718 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 1: very picky there and I don't shoot anything under the 719 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: under the four. And then I also have within our 720 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: like square mile block. Um, there's a handful of other 721 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: people in that square mile who also are you know, 722 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: they're not shooting everything. Um, they're at least passing on 723 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: year and a half old bucks. So there's a handful 724 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: of people in our square mile who are at least 725 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: letting deer get to two, which in Michigan is not 726 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: a given. So there's a lot of places where everyone 727 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: will shot the first buck they see. So to have 728 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: a spot where you know you can get some of 729 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: these bucks through, that's that's a good thing going for me. 730 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: There's also a couple of the pieces in this square 731 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: mile that don't get hunted very much. There's a bunch 732 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: of get pounded, but then there's also a couple almost 733 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: sanctuary properties, and I think that's a big thing that 734 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: helps me. I'm next to one of these spots that's 735 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: relatively lightly hunted, and that one of those spots has 736 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,720 Speaker 1: really good betting on it. So there's like a twenty 737 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 1: acre chunk within one of these pieces that is just 738 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: nasty tall grass bushes, brambles Um just kind of the 739 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: prim mere betting habitat for for Michigan. UM. And that 740 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: is this zone that is just packed with does every 741 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: year and whenever there's a dominant buck, which there usually is, 742 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: one buck will make it to four. Usually there's usually 743 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: one dayer like that and he always is is hunkered 744 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: in and around that stuff. That's just it's the best spot. 745 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: They always lay claim to it, and there's a lot 746 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 1: of ladies in there. So every year I know there's 747 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: gonna be one of these guys in and around that spot, 748 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: and traditionally I've just had to hunt around the edges 749 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 1: of it. But that would at least give me opportunities 750 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: and and once or twice a year they would come 751 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: to my side. Um. In the case of Frank, I 752 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: was able to get a shot at him. In the 753 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: case of holy Field, I saw him a bunch but 754 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: never was able to get a shot at him. In 755 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: the case of Tran in twenty nineteen, UM, you know, 756 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: he had a couple, had a couple of encounters with 757 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: them on my side, but it was it was a 758 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: lot more sightings on properties that couldn't hunt him. But 759 00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: there are spots I could see into but couldn't shoot him. Um, 760 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: that's to answer your question. I think that's why I've 761 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: been able to get some of these deer that that 762 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: make it to that age and then stick around because 763 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a relatively small pocket, but it's a 764 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: really good pocket that usually doesn't get bothered. So I 765 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: think these deer just no it come guns season, I'm 766 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: not leaving it and traditionally I haven't been harassed here 767 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: and and that gets them through. Yeah. So do the 768 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: does stick around all year long on on that property. Yeah, 769 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: it's usually uh just consistently a lot. It's high deer 770 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: density area too, so there's a lot of deer, a 771 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: lot of does. Um, you know, always a bunch of 772 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: young bucks. And then you know over the hunted this 773 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: area now for ten years, I think, and you know, 774 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: it's it's come a long way. The very first year 775 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: I hunted it, there was one deer that was three 776 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: and that was the best year, or that was the 777 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: best deer. The next year there wasn't a single deer 778 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: I thought was three. Um. The following year there was 779 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: a couple three year olds and a five year old Um, 780 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: no sorry, two year old or three year old and 781 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: then a five year old. UM, and and then a 782 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: fast forward to the last couple of years and we've 783 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: had you know, multiple three or four year old or 784 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: even a multiple four and five. Um. This year, I 785 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: had a buck that I think was four and a 786 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: buck that I thought was five. So, you know, I 787 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: think between my efforts to pass on some of these 788 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: deer and then some neighbors that I think are doing 789 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 1: the same in a couple of different pockets in our 790 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 1: square mile, I'm guessing that's starting to help. Um. So 791 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: so yeah, that that was the situation. Um. You know, 792 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 1: I passed on that buck on the second day of 793 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: the season, and then it was looking at historical data 794 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: which told me that, you know, based on the last year, 795 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: he's at least the first year years around. He didn't 796 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: really start moving like a whole lot until around the 797 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 1: last week of October, which is is kind of a 798 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: that's common for deer all over the place. It's common 799 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: for this property year after year of October's when things 800 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: seem to kick into gear and there's almost always a 801 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: hot dough that last week, like almost like clockwork, somewhere 802 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: around there, there's gonna be a good buck chasing, there's 803 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,439 Speaker 1: gonna be a hot dough with a bunch of box 804 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 1: on them. So every year, right around that time, I 805 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: make sure that that's going to be when I start 806 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: getting after it. And and so that's what I ended 807 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: up doing in But it wasn't until Halloween night that 808 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 1: I actually saw him Sam chasing dough on Halloween night, 809 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 1: and then after that it was almost DAILI or every 810 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 1: other day sightings at least or encounters. The second of 811 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: November was my closest encounter with him in BO season. 812 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: I hunted the backside of a small betting area that 813 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: was on my side of the property line that was 814 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: closest to the best betting here that's other neighbors, and 815 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: I've found that I can catch during the rut, these 816 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: bucks will sent check each of these betting airs, so 817 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,760 Speaker 1: they'll leave the best cunney hoole pocket on the neighbors, 818 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: and they'll come down to hit the kind of ancillary 819 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 1: spots that I that I could hunt if I if 820 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 1: I hit those places long enough, eventually one of these 821 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: good bucks you know, typically will come through one of 822 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: these mornings or mid days during the rut. That's what 823 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 1: happened holy Field when I almost got a shot at him, 824 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: but I was reading a book in the middle of 825 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 1: the day UM, And that exact same stand is where 826 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,280 Speaker 1: I had my closest called Tran. It was the second 827 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: of November, and there was a dough in this thicket 828 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: right behind me, and Tran was weather and they came 829 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: out of there, but just passed a little bit out 830 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: of range. I think it was fifty yards somewhere in 831 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 1: that ballpark. I remember them coming through and um and 832 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: passed out of range, went into the big betting area 833 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: and that was the last I saw them that day. 834 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: I had six more sightings um over the course of 835 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: November after that, and again mostly was in that honey 836 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: hole thick stuff over there, and I'm just bouncing around 837 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: the edges, trying to make a guess like when's it 838 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: gonna come to my side, thinking through wind, thinking through 839 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 1: different hypotheticals like where most of the dough's coming out 840 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: to feed into my stuff? Because because the property that 841 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: I had access to, as I mentioned, was mostly a 842 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: cut corn field on one side and the cut bean 843 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: field on the other. So most of what I have 844 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: to do other than those little back betting year as 845 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: I mentioned was hope that he'll follow a dough that's 846 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: feeding in the food plots or the fields of my side. Um. 847 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: To to make a long story short, I do that 848 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 1: see him, but never on my side or never in 849 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: range all the way until December rolls around. Now it's 850 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 1: gunn season and we're in muzzle other season. Ah, I 851 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,800 Speaker 1: have no qualms about shifting to whatever the legal weapon 852 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: is of choice. I put in a ton of work 853 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 1: to get after these deer, and it is not an 854 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 1: easy thing to do in these spots where I'm so limited, 855 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: and with so many other hunters around me, they're taking 856 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 1: the guns out there. I certainly have no problem. You know, 857 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: played by the same rules all of them. So I 858 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: took the gun out there. It's December, se I've waited 859 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,399 Speaker 1: until a big cold front and like the blue Bird 860 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 1: skys high bear metric pressure, UM cold day. UM. I've 861 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 1: been watching this cut corn field that I could hunt, 862 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: and a lot of deer been feeding there, but I 863 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: hadn't been seeing the big guy. But with a weather 864 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,879 Speaker 1: system that was coming through, I thought, man, um, this 865 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: is probably the night to push back in there where 866 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: I thought most of them were coming out. And sure enough, 867 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,800 Speaker 1: that's what happened. He came out of the neighbor bedding, 868 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: crossed to my side, but by the time he crossed 869 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 1: to my side, he popped into the field but was 870 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 1: heading straight away and behind branches of these trees that 871 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 1: stretched out over the edge of the field. And I 872 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: had him in my sights, like the back of his neck. 873 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,720 Speaker 1: But I just I didn't feel taken, didn't feel comfortable 874 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 1: taking the shot as he was moving and branches, and 875 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: didn't like that angle of course. So that was that 876 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 1: was the closest I really came to killing him that year. Um, 877 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 1: it was. It was exciting. It almost came together but didn't. 878 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 1: And um, a couple of weeks later I saw him 879 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: one more time on the last day of the season. 880 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: Something spooked him off another neighbor's property, like twenty five 881 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: deer come running off another property and he was in 882 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,359 Speaker 1: that group and came running by like a hundred yards away. UM, 883 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: so I knew he made it to the end of 884 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: the season. That was like the last twenty minutes of 885 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: daylight of the last day and he was still alive. 886 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: So that was how wrapped up. I was hopeful that 887 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: he made it, but it has been a long tough season, 888 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 1: you know, chasing him only to you know, kind of 889 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 1: have to watch him the distance so often. Um so 890 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 1: that's how year two ended. Yeah, and and knowing what 891 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: I know, it's kind of cool because, um, I think 892 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 1: this is the same deer your when was your youngest 893 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 1: son born? Yeah, so my youngest son was born at 894 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 1: the end of January. Okay, alright, so so we have 895 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 1: this this time frame. Is there any like throughout the 896 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: rest of the time until we start getting into that 897 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: February March time frame? Any any anything else significant happening 898 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 1: with Tran? So No, all in new was that I 899 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 1: really wanted to find his sheds. All right. All right, 900 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: so you're foreshadowing here your wife. Your wife is super pregnant, 901 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: and she says, let's go take a walk. What happens? 902 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,399 Speaker 1: So she she's due, she's supposed to be given birth 903 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 1: the baby like any day now, and she, like you said, 904 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 1: she's like, we need to go for a walk. I 905 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: need to kind of just work this thing out. And uh, 906 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: I said, well, if we're gonna go for a walk, 907 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: why don't we just do do it at this spot 908 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: I can hunt and let's walk the cornfield and maybe 909 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 1: we'll get lucky and uh find an early shed. And 910 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: this would have been like January, I don't know, January, 911 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: something like that, late January, but still pretty early to 912 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,839 Speaker 1: find antlers, very early to find ailers for a lot 913 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,800 Speaker 1: of places. Uh. But I thought, we're gonna walk around somewhere. 914 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,320 Speaker 1: Might as will do it where there's a chance to 915 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: find something. And so I go out with my wife 916 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 1: who's very pregnant, my almost two year old son, and 917 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 1: both of our dogs, and we just barely get into 918 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: this cornfield. I mean we're forty yards from the road 919 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: or something like that. We're just getting out into this 920 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 1: cut cornfield and I see times and I'm like, holy crap, 921 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,359 Speaker 1: there's an antler right there. And I go running up 922 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 1: to it. And once I got close up to see it, 923 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 1: I realized, holy crap, that's it's the antler. It's him. 924 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 1: It's trans shed. And then I look a couple of 925 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: feet away and there's the other side his match set 926 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: sitting right there, just barely off the road. Uh. My 927 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: least hard shed hunt of all time, Like the craziest, 928 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 1: most lucky thing that's ever happened to me. The match 929 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: set of the number one buck I'm after, and I 930 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,359 Speaker 1: got to do it with my wife and my son, 931 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: and uh, it was wild. It was crazy, and I 932 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: guess I should have looked at it as maybe foreshadowing 933 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,919 Speaker 1: of more good things to come, but uh yeah, they're 934 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: sitting here right behind me on the shelf. And and 935 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: that just sent tran fever to another level because now 936 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 1: I had the match set off a buck that I 937 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,439 Speaker 1: was hunting in Michigan. I've never had a match set 938 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: of a deer. I've never found a match that of 939 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: any buck in Michigan, I don't think. And now it 940 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: was one that I could actually hunt, and it was 941 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: a deer that would be five if he made it 942 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: to hunting season. Um, so it was really excited about that. 943 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 1: What what's awesome is like these stories that you have, 944 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: and I don't know if they're almost unbelievable because it's 945 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: it's like you're you're writing it, you know what I mean, 946 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 1: Like here here's you know, this year, this is what happened, 947 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,760 Speaker 1: and it's like this climactic, this climactic story and then boom, 948 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 1: here's just the sheds and it's it's it's almost like 949 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: you don't even know I need to know the rest 950 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,919 Speaker 1: of the story because you are gonna shoot this deal. 951 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: It's just like I found the sheds, had all this 952 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: history with him now and now it's just a matter 953 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 1: of time until you kill him. Man. It never feels 954 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,399 Speaker 1: like that to me, though, Well, you're the guy who's 955 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 1: spending time in the trees. Yeah, man, it uh, But yes, 956 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 1: I've been I've been lucky to have a little pocket 957 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: where these bucks feel comfortable and I'm able to, you know, 958 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 1: not always be right on them, but at least be 959 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 1: seeing them and having the occasional encounter and getting to 960 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: know them. And and the other nice thing about this 961 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: area is that I can because there's a little bit 962 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: of topography more than a lot of places of Michigan, 963 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 1: And there's some spots where I can sit up on 964 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 1: hills and seed down into some of this betting, which 965 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 1: is relatively open when you're looking at it from above. 966 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: So I've got good visibility to some of these places. Um, 967 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 1: which leads me to having all these settings to um. 968 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, I found the sheds. It's crazy. Um. Fast 969 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 1: forward into the summer. My whole plan, you know, in 970 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 1: preparation for the season, was all about this buck. Um 971 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 1: prep and new trees that I wanted to hunt in 972 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 1: the saddle for him this fall my year. You know, 973 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: as we talked about a few months ago, I was 974 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 1: I was going to be more aggressive than ever before. 975 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to you know, basically, I was, I 976 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: was gonna make moves immediately. I was going to push 977 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 1: into some spots that I typically maybe wouldn't have, maybe 978 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,439 Speaker 1: even earlier than I would have. Um, I just wanted 979 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,280 Speaker 1: to hunt him down. I was, even though I'm limited 980 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,799 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, I was going to hunt him down. 981 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:30,360 Speaker 1: Was my plan. Um. And then a few things changed, 982 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 1: which which change. This year three was really all about change. 983 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: I had all these plans, at all this historical data 984 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 1: again like I did in year one. In year two, 985 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: I've I've documented every daylight sighting, every daylight photo, what 986 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 1: the wind direction was, what the temperature was, where this was, 987 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 1: where he was coming from, where he was going. So 988 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 1: I have all this stuff, and this, you know, has 989 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,960 Speaker 1: fully informed what I think I'm going to do. In UM. 990 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 1: You know, I changed my food plots to try to 991 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: encourage him to come out a little bit further. I 992 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 1: planted different stuff, I plan it in different ways. I 993 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: changed tree locations. Um, I see him in August, he 994 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,880 Speaker 1: shows up again. I'm seeing him. He shows up a 995 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 1: handful of times that I'm out there, and I'm confirmed 996 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: if he's alive. He's a mega stud Michigan five year old. Um, 997 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 1: this is incredible. I'm so excited. Quite a few daylight 998 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: sightings leading up to the opener of season. I think 999 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,280 Speaker 1: I saw him two nights or three nights before opening day. Um. 1000 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: But then a few things changed. Um. Number one, I 1001 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: end up getting a little bit of additional permission on 1002 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 1: another neighbors who I'm able to hunt some of that 1003 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: good betting now that in the past I had only 1004 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: been able to watch. Now I was able to hunt 1005 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: some of these places, and and that was totally new 1006 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 1: for me. There's are places I've watched but never been 1007 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 1: able to get in there. So all of son, all 1008 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 1: my ideas of having hunt these edges, having to hunt 1009 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 1: this back betting air, but not being able to hunt 1010 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 1: the primo betting, having to kind of depend on him 1011 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: chasing a dough into one of my food plots are opening. 1012 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, I don't need to just 1013 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 1: wait for those things. I can actually go into the 1014 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: best of the best stuff that I've dreamed of forever. Um, 1015 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 1: So opening day, all that stuff passes and and he's gone, 1016 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 1: He's one second, one second. I think you're undervaluing that 1017 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: right there. I mean, we can't just skip, you know, 1018 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 1: you can't just say, well, I gained it access to 1019 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 1: this farm, because I think I've been in a scenario 1020 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,919 Speaker 1: where that little bit of access plays a big role 1021 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: and maybe not killing him, but figuring him out. And 1022 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: So did that small little access that you got to 1023 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: that additional property get you closer? Did it get you 1024 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: I mean did it did it help in just a 1025 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: little way or did it help in a big way? 1026 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 1: Helped in a big way. Um, if that hadn't happened, 1027 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: the story you're about to hear would be dramatically different. 1028 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 1: Um because of several other changes that came about. There's 1029 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: all these things that changed. And Um, if I hadn't 1030 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: gotten that extra permission, I would have probably had my 1031 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,440 Speaker 1: worst hunting season out here in years maybe ever. Yeah. 1032 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 1: So my whole point of me bringing this up and 1033 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 1: kind of emphasizing that particular point is what Mark did 1034 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 1: here is big. He went after it. He just didn't 1035 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 1: sit and wait. He he went and he made moves 1036 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 1: to try to access a piece of ground to get 1037 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 1: him closer to this buck. And I honestly think people 1038 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 1: don't do that enough. And access can make all the difference, 1039 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 1: that is for sure. And um and it certainly did 1040 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 1: for me because I got I had this extra access 1041 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 1: now and you know, opening A couple of days went by, 1042 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 1: and I stayed kind of conservative. For the first couple 1043 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 1: of days. We didn't have super great weather, so I 1044 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 1: hunted some of the edges of that stuff just to 1045 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 1: see what's going on, and there was. There wasn't as 1046 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: much going on as I was hoping, So I had 1047 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 1: some back forty filming, I had some other things going on. 1048 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 1: I was gonna kind of just just because now I 1049 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 1: could get into that great spot. I didn't want to 1050 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 1: abuse that. I wanted to say, Okay, I'm gonna wait 1051 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 1: until I know he's there, and then I'm gonna go 1052 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 1: to the spots I've always wanted to go but couldn't. 1053 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 1: But I'm not going to rush in their prematurely. Um, 1054 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 1: So I kind of hunt some observation things, just trying 1055 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,479 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, when's gonna start, you know, moving around 1056 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: a little more. And then my property that I have 1057 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 1: my original permission on the farmer disks the fields under completely, 1058 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: so not just like a light disking. I mean we 1059 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 1: go from a bean field to a dirt field and 1060 00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 1: dirt And I had to laugh because that when I 1061 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 1: was in Michigan and I spent the night at your 1062 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 1: house that one night, and I just like listening to 1063 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 1: you tell me that story about how the the field 1064 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 1: got dissed under, I felt like like you were suffering 1065 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: some kind of depression because like you must have felt 1066 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,320 Speaker 1: that that was gonna play a huge impact in how 1067 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 1: the deer we're going to move through your property this year. 1068 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Huge and it and it did. Man. I mean all 1069 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 1: of the movement through the stuff I can hunt is 1070 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,400 Speaker 1: predicated on having these food sources on the outside. All 1071 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 1: the movement goes from these interior bedding years to these 1072 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 1: exterior agg fields, and without it, they're not going to 1073 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 1: come onto the stuff I can hunt at all. They're 1074 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 1: just gonna go the opposite direction to the other side 1075 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 1: of the square mile where there is food. So what 1076 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: I usually have like fifty acres of food that I 1077 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 1: can hunt on these farm fields. That brings a bunch 1078 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 1: of deer through the areas that can hunt, and now 1079 01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 1: it's dirt, and I mean immediately that the next day, 1080 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 1: I was going from seeing you know, fer coming out 1081 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: to these spots from any given location to zero. So 1082 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 1: if I hadn't been able to push into some of 1083 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 1: this neighbor stuff, it would have been almost no action 1084 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 1: at all. I had some food plots on my side, 1085 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 1: but this is the worst year that my food plots 1086 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 1: have ever been because right when I planned, I'm a 1087 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 1: drought hit and so there's still food and there were 1088 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 1: still some deer hitting those little food plots, but it's 1089 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 1: very minimal. I mean it's it's an acre compared to 1090 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 1: fifty that I would usually have. UM. So, as you mentioned, 1091 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,920 Speaker 1: super depressed, really worried about how this is going to 1092 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 1: change things. And now I say, okay, well I'm not 1093 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 1: gonna be hunting a bed to feed pad anymore. I'm 1094 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 1: gonna be hunting. I needed like a rut kind of 1095 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 1: movement kind of thing, because they'll still be in these 1096 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,360 Speaker 1: betting areas and now I can hunt the stuff I 1097 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 1: always hunted, plus some a little bit extra. UM. The 1098 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 1: night of and I do see him finally from a 1099 01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 1: distance the evening of I'm now pushed into. By the 1100 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 1: time I started hunting, I should preface this, like around 1101 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 1: the twenty or somewhere around there, I started getting into stuff, 1102 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 1: and my plan was to, based on the wind, kind 1103 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 1: of rotate around this main betting that historically had been 1104 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 1: checking for does and hanging out him and and just 1105 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 1: kind of slowly pushed my way in further and further 1106 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 1: as observations or sign tells me I should. Yeah, um, 1107 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 1: because again I hadn't hunted in this stuff before I 1108 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 1: watched it, but I hadn't hunted it, so I was 1109 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,640 Speaker 1: going to kind of like tightening, I don't know, just 1110 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 1: squeezing down day by day as as I based off 1111 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 1: what I saw, right, And you had some restrictions too, 1112 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 1: because you had an X amount of time to do 1113 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 1: it before you had to leave and go start the 1114 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 1: back forty stuff exactly. So so yeah, so I knew 1115 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 1: that there was this countdown clock coming down that eventually 1116 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 1: i'd have to you know, I had to. I had 1117 01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,479 Speaker 1: to leave. Even if he was still there and still 1118 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 1: running around, I'd have to leave. Um. So I see 1119 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 1: him the twenty seven, and from a long ways away, 1120 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 1: I see him with a dough and he's locked on 1121 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 1: a doll, and I told this story a few weeks ago. 1122 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 1: He's locked on the doll. They're heading the opposite direction. 1123 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 1: I can finally get into this stuff he's in, though, 1124 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 1: So I actually get out of my tree and I 1125 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 1: chase him down, and I tried to stalk and as 1126 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 1: close as I could get to them, because I knew 1127 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 1: I knew where they're going. There's nowhere else they were 1128 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 1: going to go except for to the corn field that 1129 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 1: was north of this area. So this isn't this would 1130 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 1: be a field that's adjacent to my dirt field. Um, 1131 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,840 Speaker 1: I can't hunt the corn field, but I can now 1132 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 1: hunt some of the betting stuff that gets close to it. 1133 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 1: So I get out of the tree, I stalking as 1134 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 1: close as I can get. But eventually that wind dies down, 1135 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 1: they get out of sight and they're they're basically in 1136 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 1: the corn field. It's dead, no wind now, and there's 1137 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: other deer around. So I realized, okay, I'm stuck this 1138 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 1: As far as I got, I got a hunker down, 1139 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 1: but I was close to one of my food plots, 1140 01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 1: and on the seven and twenty eight I had seen 1141 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: him sent and check that food plot and I'd also 1142 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,920 Speaker 1: seen a lot of doughs that for whatever reason, we're 1143 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: leaving that corn field and walking the edge down to 1144 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 1: my food plot. So I thought, well, there's a chance 1145 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,920 Speaker 1: that that dough will go to the corn feed there 1146 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 1: for a while, and maybe she'll transition down to hit 1147 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 1: the food plot, like these other doughs have been doing 1148 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,480 Speaker 1: that I've watched. So I just was able to move 1149 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 1: another like, I don't know how far I went. I 1150 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 1: was basically there. I just just kind of crept a 1151 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 1: little bit closer to the spot where if they decided 1152 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 1: to come along this edge and cross the creek to 1153 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 1: check that food plot, they'd be in range. How uh 1154 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 1: and uh, you know. The night, I don't know. By 1155 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 1: this time it was down to the last half hour 1156 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,280 Speaker 1: of daylight, maybe by the time I had to hunker down, 1157 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 1: And with maybe ten minutes the daylight left, I see 1158 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 1: a dough pop over the hill and then times and 1159 01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 1: it was him, and they did exactly what I was 1160 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,400 Speaker 1: hoping they would do. Almost she transitioned from the corn 1161 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,200 Speaker 1: to the food plot, which I still do under dan. 1162 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 1: They left like a hundred acre corn cut corn field, right, yeah, 1163 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 1: I think it was still cut. Yeah, yeah, it would 1164 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 1: have been cut by then. Yeah, So they left a 1165 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: huge cut corn field to walk a hundred yards across 1166 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 1: the wide open dirt field to get to a one 1167 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,240 Speaker 1: acre food plot. Um and a bunch of deer were 1168 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 1: doing that. I would have thought it would be the opposite, 1169 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 1: and usually it is they would hit the food plot 1170 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 1: first and then go to the big field. But for 1171 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 1: whatever reason, these deer were doing at the opposite and 1172 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 1: this buck followed her. But instead of them walking the edge, 1173 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 1: which most of the deer would do, they were about 1174 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 1: fifty yards farther on the field. So I'm forty yards 1175 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 1: inside the cover and their fifty yards out into the field. 1176 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,160 Speaker 1: And they crossed daylight fades the closer they haked about 1177 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,440 Speaker 1: seventy yards from me. Um. But that was it so 1178 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 1: very exciting encounter, super cool that had happened. Um, it was. 1179 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 1: It was exciting to see an aggressive move like that, 1180 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, not quite come together, but sort of proved 1181 01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 1: out like the concept could have worked. And Um, you know, 1182 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 1: then it was I'm gonna be hunkered in here and 1183 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna be locked on that dough. And in the 1184 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,960 Speaker 1: next two days, next day and a half, I did 1185 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 1: see him again. Um. Basically I was trying to push 1186 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 1: in on where I thought this dough was gonna go 1187 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 1: back and forth, and I saw him, but never was 1188 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:21,160 Speaker 1: Aliot super close. Um. Which takes us then to November two, 1189 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 1: and we're staring my back forward to start date in 1190 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,640 Speaker 1: the face or running that of time and um again 1191 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,960 Speaker 1: you know this story. I made an aggressive move right 1192 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,000 Speaker 1: to the very smack deb middle of this betting and 1193 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 1: hunted a tree that I watched for years that I 1194 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,520 Speaker 1: always wanted to hunt, um but hadn't been able to. 1195 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 1: And I got in there, got a new stand set up, 1196 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,760 Speaker 1: and and I should say, like I'm not hunting prepped 1197 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 1: stands or anything. This is every single day. Every morning, 1198 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm going in there and hanging a new set. Every 1199 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,360 Speaker 1: night I'm tearing down and moving. Um. I've never been 1200 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 1: that mobile before. This is every single set. I was 1201 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 1: in new place almost. UM. So that was a lot 1202 01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,360 Speaker 1: of work, but I think it helped me in a 1203 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,080 Speaker 1: lot of ways. Um. And you know he came through 1204 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,720 Speaker 1: before daylight. He was there at ten yards, couldn't shoot him. 1205 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,880 Speaker 1: Eventually got to my downwind side, blew out. Um. Some 1206 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 1: chasing does and cruising still in there throughout the day. Um, 1207 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 1: I think I think a couple of things about this 1208 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:24,400 Speaker 1: because because that happened right he he winded me right close, 1209 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,920 Speaker 1: busted out of there, but then he stuck around chasing 1210 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 1: does and then like four hours later he crossed the 1211 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 1: creek with my wind was blowing down about two yards 1212 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,200 Speaker 1: away and caught something again and caught my wind there, 1213 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, headed off after that. And then 1214 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 1: the next day I bump him when I'm walking to 1215 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 1: an evening set. He's better with a dough about a 1216 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,200 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards from there. He's still in that area, 1217 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,880 Speaker 1: better with a lock down dough. I bumped him out 1218 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,080 Speaker 1: of there. Then the next night, now I'm making another 1219 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 1: adjustment based off you know, he's locked on this dough. 1220 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 1: If she's gonna come out, you know they're not gonna 1221 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 1: come right by where I bumped them, but she might 1222 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 1: come out, you know, down wind to that spot. So 1223 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,440 Speaker 1: I make an adjustment, and here he comes fall in 1224 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 1: the doll the next night. So keep seeing him in 1225 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 1: this damn little area, like a ten to twenty a chunk. 1226 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to leave it. And I've I've tried 1227 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,360 Speaker 1: to think about this, like how come, I'm seeing this 1228 01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,120 Speaker 1: mature buck over and over. I'm hunting the heck out 1229 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:25,479 Speaker 1: of this general area. Um, and he's still moving in daylight. 1230 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,479 Speaker 1: That's something that you don't see from a mature buck 1231 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 1: in Michigan very often. So either is he dumb or 1232 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 1: is there something going on here? And my best analysis 1233 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 1: is that number one, I am being, you know, as 1234 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,080 Speaker 1: obsessive as it possibly can about all the details. Right, 1235 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 1: So I'm not perfect, but I'm as close as I 1236 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,000 Speaker 1: can possibly be. So yeah, he got down winded me. 1237 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 1: But he must have, you know, with those with my 1238 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,599 Speaker 1: O zone, with all the things I'm doing. It must 1239 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,599 Speaker 1: have not been like the obvious, Oh my god, that's 1240 01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,840 Speaker 1: a human that's right there. It must have been like, 1241 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,559 Speaker 1: I don't like it. I'm getting out of year. But um, 1242 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 1: it was enough of head scratcher that he was willing 1243 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,880 Speaker 1: to still be active in their Number two, this deer 1244 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 1: or this is a mature buck that wanted to get 1245 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,400 Speaker 1: on these doughs. And there was hot dos and that 1246 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,240 Speaker 1: cloud's judgment. So the role of clouding his judgment. And 1247 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,680 Speaker 1: finally a lot of this hunting was going on in 1248 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 1: a place that this deer historically had not been bothered. 1249 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 1: This was his safe zone. And for years he called 1250 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,000 Speaker 1: this his safe zone, and it was always safe. And 1251 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,360 Speaker 1: so now in year five, all of a sudden, you're 1252 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,040 Speaker 1: telling me that my bedroom is no longer safe. It 1253 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,599 Speaker 1: might take you a little while to come to grasps 1254 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 1: with that. So I think he was a little bit 1255 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 1: hanging onto his safe place. He's like, damn it, this 1256 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 1: can't be happening. This has always been safe. It's always 1257 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,599 Speaker 1: been safe. So he's stuck with it. And and I 1258 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:53,080 Speaker 1: kept poking around, and um, you know that eventually proved 1259 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,679 Speaker 1: to be his demise. I didn't talk to you about this, 1260 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 1: but I did talk about this on a podcast two 1261 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,920 Speaker 1: weeks ago. UM. I eventually had to leave for the 1262 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 1: back forty hunted out there, killed the super cool buck. 1263 01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,679 Speaker 1: And because I killed that buck early in the trip, 1264 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,840 Speaker 1: I had a couple of day window where I didn't 1265 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,800 Speaker 1: need to be hunting out there, um until our next 1266 01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,880 Speaker 1: set of guests came out. So I had two days 1267 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,360 Speaker 1: in between where I could come back and hunt the transpots. 1268 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,400 Speaker 1: And so I did, and I had three encounters with them. 1269 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,200 Speaker 1: One morning, I went in on the south side of 1270 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,000 Speaker 1: this betting area, and at this point My plan was, 1271 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm gonna stick to this area and 1272 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm just going to kind of volume hunted. It's kind 1273 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 1: of crazy that I'm spending as many sits and am 1274 01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,760 Speaker 1: in this like acre zone. But this is where he 1275 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,760 Speaker 1: wants to be, and until he tells me otherwise, I'm 1276 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 1: gonna keep pounding it. And so I got in there, 1277 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,240 Speaker 1: and you know, an hour after daylight, here he comes 1278 01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 1: cruising and he cruises in like he's head and right 1279 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,000 Speaker 1: to me. I'm clipped on, I'm ready, and he gets 1280 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 1: like fifty five yards and then kind of angles the 1281 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 1: other way and angles out, you know, to seventy I 1282 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 1: tried to snort wheeze to him, and he didn't like it, 1283 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,519 Speaker 1: and he kind of just buggered out of there. See 1284 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,439 Speaker 1: him again that night, chasing a dough way off in 1285 01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,839 Speaker 1: the distance from another spot. Next morning, I go into 1286 01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,360 Speaker 1: the north side of this betting area. And most people 1287 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,760 Speaker 1: heard this story two weeks ago. Dan, I don't know 1288 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 1: if you know this or not, but he follows in. 1289 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,439 Speaker 1: The dough blows through my one spot I could shoot, 1290 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 1: gets into this thick, nasty stuff. I panic. I'm desperate. 1291 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 1: I've spent so many days and hours and so much 1292 01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:29,840 Speaker 1: time and energy trying to get this buck. And in 1293 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:31,439 Speaker 1: that moment, I'm thinking, I gotta get a shot. I 1294 01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,479 Speaker 1: have to get a shot. I can't let this, this 1295 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 1: opportunity that's finally here, slip away. And so I've forced 1296 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,760 Speaker 1: a shot through a little tiny pocket in the brush 1297 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:41,840 Speaker 1: that really wasn't a good pocket at all, and I 1298 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,280 Speaker 1: miss him, hitting branches and crap. Um, And then I 1299 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 1: had to go to the back for it again. I 1300 01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 1: leave the back forty. I'm out there for seven days. 1301 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:55,880 Speaker 1: That takes me to the final hunt the gun season, 1302 01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:00,479 Speaker 1: right bum. Yeah, So gun season opens for seven days, 1303 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm not there. I get back from the back forty 1304 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 1: and now I can hunt. I'm tired, I'm war out. 1305 01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm kind of sick and tired of it, but I 1306 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,120 Speaker 1: feel like I gotta try. Um. Every day the gun 1307 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,320 Speaker 1: season goes further on, there's a chance that one of 1308 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,480 Speaker 1: these other people in the area going to shoot him. Um. 1309 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,519 Speaker 1: So I go out and say, like, yeah, I'm gonna 1310 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 1: stick the original plan. I want to get back there 1311 01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,400 Speaker 1: in that pocket, see if he's still there. And the 1312 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,679 Speaker 1: first day it was just dead. Um saw very little. 1313 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,800 Speaker 1: A neighbor shot a deer and there's a bunch of commotion, uh, 1314 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,760 Speaker 1: coming out. I saw what looked to be a trespasser 1315 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,080 Speaker 1: on a property that isn't supposed to be hunted. I 1316 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,400 Speaker 1: saw flashlights out there, so I kind of ran them 1317 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 1: down and wasn't able to connect, but kind of let 1318 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 1: these people know that, hey, we saw you at least, 1319 01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,800 Speaker 1: So all that happens, and then there's no deer heading 1320 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:48,200 Speaker 1: to the food on the other neighbors like they had been. 1321 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,240 Speaker 1: And I had seen that they had actually disc that 1322 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:56,360 Speaker 1: field under two So now all of the food that's 1323 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,960 Speaker 1: adjacent to anything I can hunt is all disked under. 1324 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,320 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here Saturday night thinking, all right, based 1325 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,559 Speaker 1: off what I saw and all this pressure and that 1326 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,439 Speaker 1: all the food's gone. Now these deer just I bet 1327 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,240 Speaker 1: you these doughs have just got to be going to 1328 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,080 Speaker 1: the other side of the square mile. And I still 1329 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:15,920 Speaker 1: bet you if he's alive, and I don't know this, 1330 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 1: I don't have confirmations alive, but if he is, I 1331 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,360 Speaker 1: bet you he's still gonna be betting in this area 1332 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,639 Speaker 1: and checking this area for does but he's probably gonna 1333 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,080 Speaker 1: be heading in a different direction than has been going 1334 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,479 Speaker 1: on all year. So the next day I just said, 1335 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,840 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna go hunt back on the main 1336 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,519 Speaker 1: stuff that I used to hunt all the time, on 1337 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,760 Speaker 1: my main property that I've hunted for years and years 1338 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: and years. I'm gonna hunt down on that side that 1339 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,840 Speaker 1: has been absolutely dead all season because of the dirt field. 1340 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been checking cameras, I've been hunting some 1341 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:45,720 Speaker 1: stuff where I could still see in there, and it 1342 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,280 Speaker 1: had been just a ghost town. But I thought maybe 1343 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,840 Speaker 1: because they're on a a different neighbor. Now I've got 1344 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 1: I'm talking about two different sets of neighbors. There was 1345 01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,880 Speaker 1: a recently cut cornfield on one east side of the 1346 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,240 Speaker 1: square mile. Then there was a standing corn field to 1347 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,920 Speaker 1: the south of the square mile that I knew of 1348 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,360 Speaker 1: that were now like the only food sources in the 1349 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,800 Speaker 1: area since everything up on me had been dissed. So 1350 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,840 Speaker 1: my theory was that I'm gonna hunt down in this 1351 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:15,160 Speaker 1: spot where I can intercept anything that wants to head 1352 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,519 Speaker 1: to the south cornfield coming out of this bedding year, 1353 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,800 Speaker 1: and I'd be able to see from way off in 1354 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,080 Speaker 1: the distance anything that wants to go to the east 1355 01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,800 Speaker 1: side of the square mile, and at least see if 1356 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,640 Speaker 1: my hunch is right, and then from there I can 1357 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 1: make an adjustment. And it's gunned season. I'm taking a gun. Um, 1358 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,439 Speaker 1: we're gonna see what happens and and kind of go 1359 01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:38,479 Speaker 1: from there. That's what I sat up on. I'm sitting 1360 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,320 Speaker 1: kind of in between the good bedding that's off to 1361 01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,400 Speaker 1: my north aways, and then there's a little swamp to 1362 01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,800 Speaker 1: my south, and then there's other neighbor who that standing 1363 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,680 Speaker 1: corn fields further back behind that. The first three or 1364 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,640 Speaker 1: four hours the night were dead. It was snowing. I 1365 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,960 Speaker 1: thought it would be great, but nothing was moving. Nothing 1366 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,200 Speaker 1: was moving until the last half hour Doe pops out 1367 01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,240 Speaker 1: and the dough starts walking down my way, and then 1368 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:05,880 Speaker 1: right behind her it's Tran And at this point think, 1369 01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 1: holy crap, he's alive. This is amazing. But they're heading 1370 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,240 Speaker 1: into like this timber ahead of me instead of to 1371 01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:15,640 Speaker 1: the excuse me where I'm at. It's kind of in 1372 01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,280 Speaker 1: between a little finger of a field that goes into 1373 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 1: this timber on one side and then a power line 1374 01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:22,800 Speaker 1: on the other. And so they pop out in the 1375 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,880 Speaker 1: power line, but then very quickly crossed into the timber 1376 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,080 Speaker 1: and I can't see anything, and I'm guessing that they're 1377 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,880 Speaker 1: gonna stay in the thick of that timber and foul 1378 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:32,559 Speaker 1: that all the way down to the neighbor that does 1379 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,760 Speaker 1: have the corn, and they probably won't come out to 1380 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,200 Speaker 1: the open where I can get a shot. I still 1381 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,360 Speaker 1: gotta be ready, though, so I get ready. I'm watching. 1382 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,479 Speaker 1: I'm already thinking, like, okay, based on what I sell, 1383 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,120 Speaker 1: what does that mean for tomorrow? He's alive. I can 1384 01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,680 Speaker 1: adjust on this. They're heading to the south. Um As 1385 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm thinking to this, the dope pops out again. But 1386 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,760 Speaker 1: now she's closer to me on the power line side, 1387 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,479 Speaker 1: like she's heading to this little food plot that I 1388 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,599 Speaker 1: have over in this other direction too. I'm thinking, man, 1389 01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna come close. This is actually gonna happen. And 1390 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 1: then I see a buck pop up and I look 1391 01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:05,360 Speaker 1: at it and it's not Tran. It's this like mini 1392 01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,439 Speaker 1: me of Tran. There's this other buck I've been seeing 1393 01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,160 Speaker 1: all year that I passed a bunch that's like a 1394 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,960 Speaker 1: two or three year old miniature version of Tran, and 1395 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 1: he's with her, And now I'm thinking, damn it, that 1396 01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,439 Speaker 1: was him. I didn't see the real trend. It was 1397 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:22,240 Speaker 1: the fake tran um ah like I'm having this internal battle. 1398 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,400 Speaker 1: I swear to God it was him. How there's no 1399 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,120 Speaker 1: way I could have mistaken it. He's he's just massive 1400 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,880 Speaker 1: compared to this one. And as this is all playing out, 1401 01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,479 Speaker 1: Mini Tran pops over to my side of the tree line, 1402 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,880 Speaker 1: comes across this field um this little finger and gets 1403 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,000 Speaker 1: to the downwind side of me. Comes all the way 1404 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,800 Speaker 1: across to the downwind side of man, stops, hits the 1405 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:45,120 Speaker 1: wind and has like that you know what when you 1406 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,920 Speaker 1: you do the same stuff I do, use nose onics, 1407 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,040 Speaker 1: you're playing other you know, send control things. He stops, 1408 01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 1: he looks, he's thinking. He's like, I don't there's something 1409 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:53,880 Speaker 1: over there I don't really like, but I can't quite 1410 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,479 Speaker 1: put my finger on it. And he's looking looking, and 1411 01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,479 Speaker 1: then he turns and just starts walking back the way 1412 01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:02,800 Speaker 1: he came. That doe pops out, he stops. He's getting 1413 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,240 Speaker 1: kind of like funky doing the head things, staring at me, 1414 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,840 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, anytime now this is gonna blow up. 1415 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna bugger out of here. And if the real 1416 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,280 Speaker 1: trend is here, he's gone to And just when I'm 1417 01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,360 Speaker 1: like worrying through all that, the real trend steps out 1418 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,479 Speaker 1: of the thick timber and starts walking right out to 1419 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 1: the edge to where that dough is. And he comes 1420 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,000 Speaker 1: walking right out, gets to the edge, kind of turns 1421 01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,439 Speaker 1: quartering to me, and I pull up the scope and 1422 01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,519 Speaker 1: I look at him, and there's a huge tree close 1423 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,760 Speaker 1: to me in between us that he is rund the 1424 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,839 Speaker 1: edge of. And if if I let him keep walking, 1425 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,720 Speaker 1: he will go behind that big tree that's by me, 1426 01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,360 Speaker 1: So it covers like a like a sixty yard zone 1427 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 1: or maybe not that much for meet yards of area 1428 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:45,920 Speaker 1: that he would cover. And then once he got to 1429 01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 1: the other side of that tree, he'd be almost down wind. 1430 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,920 Speaker 1: So I thought, is it's an hour never basically, so 1431 01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,400 Speaker 1: I prop up the gun, my elbows on my knees, 1432 01:17:56,160 --> 01:18:00,320 Speaker 1: and he's kind of quarter two and basically put on 1433 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,880 Speaker 1: the shoulder and and that was it. I let her eat, 1434 01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:09,080 Speaker 1: and um, it happened fast. It was crazy. He went 1435 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 1: pile driving out of there, disappears behind a big clump 1436 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:15,519 Speaker 1: of trees in the swamp. And you know, a couple 1437 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,439 Speaker 1: of hours later, I got some buddies and we went 1438 01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 1: in there great Blood Trail, and Tran was on the ground. 1439 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:27,160 Speaker 1: It uh it came together. And you know that, just 1440 01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 1: just an hour before that, I've been texting with my 1441 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,800 Speaker 1: friends saying, man, I think it's it got buggered up 1442 01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:35,439 Speaker 1: hard this weekend. All this food's gone. It's just dead. 1443 01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm betting I'm probably have to pull out for a 1444 01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 1: couple of weeks and just wait until December. Maybe, you know, 1445 01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,240 Speaker 1: I can refigure stuff out and I'm just gonna observe 1446 01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,479 Speaker 1: and move cameras around. I did not think things are 1447 01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:51,320 Speaker 1: gonna come together. And uh, it had been a long, crazy, 1448 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,760 Speaker 1: wild ride, and I was definitely at the end of 1449 01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,920 Speaker 1: my rope by the time that had come together. I mean, 1450 01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:01,120 Speaker 1: I had hunted a ton for this year, um and 1451 01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,000 Speaker 1: he had he. I just felt like I was chasing 1452 01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,000 Speaker 1: my tail. I was seeing him close, not close enough. 1453 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean I had him within sixty five yards or 1454 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,840 Speaker 1: sixty yards so many times. I had the the miss, 1455 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,559 Speaker 1: the almost shot at ten yards, the spotting stock, the 1456 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm here, he's there, he's there, I'm here, 1457 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,920 Speaker 1: over and over and over. And that's exciting and amazing, 1458 01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:24,200 Speaker 1: but it was also really frustrating and being just so 1459 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,840 Speaker 1: close but not close enough, and also every day thinking 1460 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 1: like any time now the way he's moving, someone's gonna 1461 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,840 Speaker 1: kill him. Um, And it's it's probably not gonna be 1462 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:34,800 Speaker 1: me because I seemingly can't get out of my own 1463 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,759 Speaker 1: way or can't get that final piece to fall into place. 1464 01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,680 Speaker 1: And I just remember as I was walking to the 1465 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,559 Speaker 1: stand that day, actually, as I was walking in, I 1466 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,360 Speaker 1: remember thinking to myself, Man, you gotta get lucky eventually, 1467 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,760 Speaker 1: like you just right, you gotta have I was like, 1468 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,599 Speaker 1: you're doing the right stuff. Like I kept on trying 1469 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,000 Speaker 1: to think, like what am I doing wrong? Is there 1470 01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:54,519 Speaker 1: something I should be doing different? Do I need to 1471 01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,800 Speaker 1: be going about this different? I kept thinking, Man, I 1472 01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,080 Speaker 1: don't think I would be doing anything terribly wrong. You 1473 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,400 Speaker 1: just haven't had that find a little tiny piece of 1474 01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,800 Speaker 1: luck go your way. Just keep doing the right things, 1475 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,599 Speaker 1: and if you do the right things enough times, one 1476 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:11,000 Speaker 1: of these times that final puzzle piece will be where 1477 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 1: you need it. And and that's what was on my 1478 01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,040 Speaker 1: minds that went to the stand, and and finally that's 1479 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,599 Speaker 1: what happened, The one little chip went my way. Yeah, 1480 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:24,280 Speaker 1: and it happened. I'll tell you what, man, that's that 1481 01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:29,320 Speaker 1: is a a statement in itself again, something that man, 1482 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,680 Speaker 1: people get real frustrated. And I get it because they 1483 01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,559 Speaker 1: don't get the time to hunt like me and you 1484 01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,680 Speaker 1: do right. And some of them may be limited to 1485 01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:42,920 Speaker 1: um weekends or only five days of vacation that they 1486 01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 1: can allocate towards hunting or whatever. But if if you 1487 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,920 Speaker 1: put in your time and you cover your basis and 1488 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,680 Speaker 1: you do the right thing, man, I am confident. Now 1489 01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen every time, but I'm confident that you're 1490 01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:03,880 Speaker 1: gonna get more encounters, You're going to have the tide 1491 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:08,679 Speaker 1: eventually turns your way. I feel yeah. And and sometimes 1492 01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:14,639 Speaker 1: it really is like there's these different there's these different 1493 01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,479 Speaker 1: um parts of a hunt, and you need to check 1494 01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,439 Speaker 1: off each one of these different boxes. And sometimes you 1495 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,439 Speaker 1: can get away with checking a few of them. Sometimes 1496 01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,160 Speaker 1: you need more of them to be checked. Um. You know, 1497 01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 1: sometimes you're gonna get just straight up lucky, and then 1498 01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,760 Speaker 1: other times you gotta do everything just right for it 1499 01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,680 Speaker 1: to happen. And other days you can do everything just 1500 01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:38,920 Speaker 1: right and it still doesn't happen. Um. So you know, 1501 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,360 Speaker 1: I think it goes back to what we've said a 1502 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,599 Speaker 1: thousand times. You you check every box you possibly can. 1503 01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,519 Speaker 1: You work as hard as you possibly can you hunt, 1504 01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, as much as you can when it's right, 1505 01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,120 Speaker 1: and eventually good things will happen. Like you said, it's 1506 01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,720 Speaker 1: not gonna happen every time. Maybe it doesn't happen every year. Um. 1507 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,360 Speaker 1: You know, I'm fortunate that in this case, you know, 1508 01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,599 Speaker 1: I'm able to hunt more than a lot of people, 1509 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,519 Speaker 1: and so in this scenario, it required a lot of volume. 1510 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 1: It required a lot of doing the right thing over 1511 01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,639 Speaker 1: and over and over um for all the different mistakes 1512 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,519 Speaker 1: and things to iron out and for it to actually 1513 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,519 Speaker 1: come together for me. So so I'm thankful for being 1514 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:22,640 Speaker 1: able to do that, but I'm also I guess it 1515 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:26,280 Speaker 1: also came down to just keeping a little bit of 1516 01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:29,759 Speaker 1: belief and persisting. Um, there were a lot of times. 1517 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 1: There was a lot of negative self talk over the 1518 01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,960 Speaker 1: last two months. There's a lot of days where I 1519 01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,639 Speaker 1: was kicking myself or mad about picking this spot rather 1520 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,439 Speaker 1: than that spot, or thinking, man, you're never gonna get 1521 01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,920 Speaker 1: another opportunity. Now, you're never going to see him again. Man, 1522 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 1: you're never gonna you know, there was just so much 1523 01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,639 Speaker 1: built into this hunt because it was three years running, 1524 01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,120 Speaker 1: because all the work in the spring and summer have 1525 01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,240 Speaker 1: been about this dear, I can't tell you how many 1526 01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,639 Speaker 1: days I've spent with binocular staring out at these fields 1527 01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:01,799 Speaker 1: and these openings trying to see him. I mean hundreds 1528 01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,879 Speaker 1: of hundreds of hours um, watching and searching and thinking 1529 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,320 Speaker 1: and planning. UM. And then it makes what's kind of 1530 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:13,920 Speaker 1: an absurd thing the case, which is I was obsessing 1531 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,880 Speaker 1: over a deer and letting it consume a ton of 1532 01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,799 Speaker 1: my mindset and my thought and my time and energy, 1533 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,640 Speaker 1: and so it builds this thing up into this huge thing. 1534 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,360 Speaker 1: And I kept telling my wife that, yeah, it's just 1535 01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:30,599 Speaker 1: a deer, but it's also like so much work, so 1536 01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,800 Speaker 1: much of me has gone into this thing, and and 1537 01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,320 Speaker 1: there's not many other things in life I can think 1538 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:39,960 Speaker 1: of where I can work unbelievably hard. I can work work, work, work, work, 1539 01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,160 Speaker 1: and do everything I know I'm supposed to do and 1540 01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,840 Speaker 1: still not get the payoff. Like when I'm writing a book, 1541 01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,280 Speaker 1: I knew that if if I work my butt off 1542 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 1: and if I do the stuff I need to do 1543 01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,519 Speaker 1: that I know how to do, I'm going to get 1544 01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 1: that book done. If you know, if I put in 1545 01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,919 Speaker 1: the work I need to to do a good podcast 1546 01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,120 Speaker 1: and do the right preparation and plan and ask the 1547 01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,439 Speaker 1: right questions and spend the time leading into it, make 1548 01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:02,800 Speaker 1: sure we do a good job atting. I know we'll 1549 01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,400 Speaker 1: get a good podcast out. Um that's not the case 1550 01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,559 Speaker 1: with a hunt like this. And that was like I 1551 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,600 Speaker 1: was getting to this point where I was I was 1552 01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:15,360 Speaker 1: feeling I had actually reached a point of resignation. To 1553 01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:16,880 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I gotten to a point where 1554 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,840 Speaker 1: I've been so frustrated and like stressing. I was loving it, 1555 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 1: but also stressing. And then I got two guns season. 1556 01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,560 Speaker 1: When gun season hits, I always kind of used to 1557 01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,000 Speaker 1: just kind of hands off, and you realize that it's 1558 01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,519 Speaker 1: out of my hands. Now, there's way more people out 1559 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,160 Speaker 1: there now than usual and a lot better chance of 1560 01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,599 Speaker 1: than killing him, he's probably gonna get it smoked by someone. 1561 01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,000 Speaker 1: And I kind of had to be like, Okay, you 1562 01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,400 Speaker 1: did your very best, you worked your damnedest, you put 1563 01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,880 Speaker 1: in the time. Um. So I kind of made peace 1564 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:48,800 Speaker 1: with things when November rolled around. Um And and you know, 1565 01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't have much advice to give a person, Mark 1566 01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:57,639 Speaker 1: and especially you, but one thing that I've learned throughout 1567 01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,200 Speaker 1: the years is if you can learn to get us 1568 01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:04,800 Speaker 1: that or over that feeling, hunting becomes so much more 1569 01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:11,559 Speaker 1: than then that, if that makes sense. Like the stress part, 1570 01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:15,280 Speaker 1: like you said, it's like you can work as hard 1571 01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,080 Speaker 1: as you want and the payoff still won't be there, 1572 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 1: and you start to get this this some sort of 1573 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:25,880 Speaker 1: stress build up or uh, the worrisome build up that 1574 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:29,040 Speaker 1: you were feeling. I'm telling you right now, man, I 1575 01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,720 Speaker 1: used to be like that too, and i've since I 1576 01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,840 Speaker 1: feel like I since planned prep, I do all the things, 1577 01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:38,360 Speaker 1: but I leave the worry at home. I leave all 1578 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:42,400 Speaker 1: the worry. I just don't do it anymore. I just 1579 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,840 Speaker 1: go out and I hunt. And I feel like when 1580 01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:50,040 Speaker 1: I was able to do that and make that step 1581 01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,840 Speaker 1: and just say, you know, dude, if it happens, it happens. 1582 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,320 Speaker 1: If it doesn't, it doesn't, and and accept that fact. Dude, 1583 01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I've reached a different level in hunting 1584 01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:03,120 Speaker 1: and I've been able to enjoy it so much more. Yeah, 1585 01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,519 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's awesome. Man. Um. I don't know 1586 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,840 Speaker 1: if I'm I'm probably not that person that I can. 1587 01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:11,920 Speaker 1: I can, I can I get to that point Like 1588 01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,360 Speaker 1: I kind of got to that point. I had to 1589 01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,280 Speaker 1: force myself into that and realize, like, hey, you tried, 1590 01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,400 Speaker 1: and this is where we're at and it is and 1591 01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,040 Speaker 1: you know what what has helped me the most, there's kids. 1592 01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,240 Speaker 1: You know, whenever I have a bad hunter, or whenever 1593 01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,040 Speaker 1: I feel like this stuff didn't go the way I wanted, 1594 01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,200 Speaker 1: I would just remind myself of the boys that I 1595 01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,000 Speaker 1: was gonna come home to and see him and hug him, 1596 01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,320 Speaker 1: and you know, that always bring me back to what's 1597 01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:37,760 Speaker 1: really most important. But but I'm just so goal oriented 1598 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,840 Speaker 1: and I can't help but put so much into this 1599 01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,439 Speaker 1: and and really really really wanted to come together. We 1600 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,880 Speaker 1: talked about every year. Um, it's something I worked through 1601 01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:56,960 Speaker 1: every year, but um, I don't Yeah, there's the dogs, Um, 1602 01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:01,840 Speaker 1: congratulations man. Yeah, this one was a wild ride. He 1603 01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,400 Speaker 1: he worked me over, he beat me up, he stressed 1604 01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,680 Speaker 1: me out, he made me work my tail off. Um. 1605 01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,320 Speaker 1: And and it was pretty satisfying for me to get 1606 01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:11,840 Speaker 1: to a point where I kind of was okay with 1607 01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,120 Speaker 1: not being able to kill him. I knew that was 1608 01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,040 Speaker 1: a possibility, and then to have it actually come together 1609 01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:22,519 Speaker 1: was was a crazy, amazing satisfying ending that. Um that 1610 01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:26,240 Speaker 1: leaves me in a very happy place today. Absolutely. Man, 1611 01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,639 Speaker 1: those these big bucks, man, they can make a smile 1612 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:32,080 Speaker 1: or they can make us cringe, you know. So congratulations brother, 1613 01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,120 Speaker 1: thank you, my friend. I'm glad that uh I could 1614 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,719 Speaker 1: share it with you over these years. And um, thanks 1615 01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:40,960 Speaker 1: for all the thanks for all the kind words and 1616 01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:45,439 Speaker 1: advice encouragement along the way. Absolutely, and I guess what 1617 01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,280 Speaker 1: here's to uh, here's two white tails for dare I 1618 01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:53,280 Speaker 1: say one? It's gonna be a good year. It's gonna 1619 01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,439 Speaker 1: be a better year. It's gotta be better than got 1620 01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,519 Speaker 1: to be a better year. Is It's only up from here. 1621 01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:03,320 Speaker 1: That's all right, man, thank you. Let's uh, let's catch 1622 01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,799 Speaker 1: up soon and talk about the plan for next year. Alright. 1623 01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,040 Speaker 1: So Dan had to bounce off, he had a he 1624 01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:10,720 Speaker 1: had a hard stop. So we kind of had to 1625 01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,040 Speaker 1: rush things a little bit there at the end. But 1626 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to take a second here to kind of 1627 01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:18,640 Speaker 1: tie a bowl on this and and synthesize some of 1628 01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,960 Speaker 1: the main takeaways or lessons learned here for me, And 1629 01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,280 Speaker 1: then I think maybe we can all take from this 1630 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,840 Speaker 1: because this isn't yeah, this is a story of my 1631 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,320 Speaker 1: own personal hunt and and this kind of journey I 1632 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,160 Speaker 1: went on. But my hope all along has always been 1633 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,880 Speaker 1: that by sharing these stories you all are able to 1634 01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,559 Speaker 1: learn right alongside me. And so now as I'm wrapping 1635 01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,080 Speaker 1: up this hunt and I'm trying to process what what 1636 01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,680 Speaker 1: did I take away from this? Uh? I want to 1637 01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:48,160 Speaker 1: make sure that that you all can take away something too. UH. 1638 01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:53,200 Speaker 1: When I you know, over this last seven days essentially 1639 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:56,040 Speaker 1: it's been seven days as I'm recording this, since the 1640 01:28:56,200 --> 01:29:00,200 Speaker 1: hunt actually happened. Now at this point, um, here here's 1641 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:04,080 Speaker 1: what stands out to me. One of the major things 1642 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,200 Speaker 1: going into this hunt that I wanted to do differently 1643 01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,200 Speaker 1: this year was to be more aggressive and mobile than 1644 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,000 Speaker 1: ever before. You've heard me talk about this throughout the year. 1645 01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:14,920 Speaker 1: That was a goal of mine. And you heard me 1646 01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:16,760 Speaker 1: just mentioned to Dan that I thought I did that, 1647 01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,400 Speaker 1: and I really do. I think I was more mobile, 1648 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:24,080 Speaker 1: more adaptable than I ever have. UM. I really fine 1649 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,519 Speaker 1: tuned my mobile setup. I've I had the process nailed. 1650 01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean I was going up and down, up and 1651 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,839 Speaker 1: down every day for day after day after day. From 1652 01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:34,679 Speaker 1: you know. I did some of that in early October. 1653 01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,880 Speaker 1: There a lot of that laid October right on through 1654 01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:40,240 Speaker 1: the middle and almost towards the end of November. And 1655 01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:44,679 Speaker 1: because I had dialed in that process, and become really 1656 01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:48,000 Speaker 1: comfortable with my gear. It wasn't something that held me 1657 01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:52,240 Speaker 1: back previously. When I wasn't comfortable with those two things. 1658 01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,920 Speaker 1: It was a real inconvenience to to move from this 1659 01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,599 Speaker 1: stand to that stand, to go hang a news stand 1660 01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,200 Speaker 1: fifty yards over there, or to adjust twenty yards, or 1661 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,240 Speaker 1: to move at all. You just want to go hunt 1662 01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,320 Speaker 1: the pre hung sets that were there and easy, um. 1663 01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,680 Speaker 1: But oftentimes that's not going to put you in the 1664 01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:11,240 Speaker 1: place you need to be, especially if your bow hunting. UM. 1665 01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,360 Speaker 1: This year, I wasn't going to let that stand in 1666 01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:17,080 Speaker 1: my way anymore. So I made the moves when I 1667 01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,080 Speaker 1: had to make them. When I saw a movement that 1668 01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,479 Speaker 1: was thirty yards farther away, I would bump up. I 1669 01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,960 Speaker 1: would make that move. Um. I would go in the 1670 01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:28,400 Speaker 1: next day, two hours before daylight and hang new sets, 1671 01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:31,080 Speaker 1: something maybe five years ago I never would have done. 1672 01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,160 Speaker 1: Now I'm realizing time and time again that that stuff 1673 01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:37,479 Speaker 1: pays off. It's inconvenient, it's a pain in the butt, 1674 01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,880 Speaker 1: it's not easy. It's hard at times. UM. It takes 1675 01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,280 Speaker 1: some work to get comfortable doing that kind of stuff, 1676 01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:47,800 Speaker 1: But so often I'm finding that the hard thing is 1677 01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,760 Speaker 1: usually the right thing to do if this is the 1678 01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:55,880 Speaker 1: goal you're working towards. Of course, secondly, I had to 1679 01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:02,400 Speaker 1: adopt a different kind of strategy as the season progressed. 1680 01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:06,559 Speaker 1: So early on when I started this, this a couple 1681 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,360 Speaker 1: of week period where I was gonna be hunting for 1682 01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:13,599 Speaker 1: Tran pretty aggressively. That first week, UM, I was mobile. 1683 01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,040 Speaker 1: I was bouncing all around the outside of this area, 1684 01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,120 Speaker 1: trying to figure out where is this deer, what is 1685 01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:21,240 Speaker 1: he doing. I hadn't seen him at all since late September, 1686 01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,080 Speaker 1: So during that period I was moving. I was moving, 1687 01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:27,679 Speaker 1: I was moving, adjusting based off wind, adjusting based off 1688 01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,559 Speaker 1: of different things going on. But once we got into 1689 01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:35,040 Speaker 1: that second week in November, I had been seeing him. 1690 01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:38,240 Speaker 1: I had been having these encounters. I kind of had 1691 01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,000 Speaker 1: it die all day what he was doing. He was 1692 01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,320 Speaker 1: staying in this little, tiny pocket, and every one of 1693 01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:44,880 Speaker 1: the times I saw him or encountered him, it was 1694 01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,160 Speaker 1: within this you know, I don't know, ten twenty acres 1695 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,240 Speaker 1: or less, even you could almost in zeer it down 1696 01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:53,680 Speaker 1: to I don't know, I mean of it maybe was 1697 01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,599 Speaker 1: happening in five acres um. It was really a small 1698 01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,000 Speaker 1: little pocket where so much of this stuff was happening. 1699 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,200 Speaker 1: So eventually got to the point where I was I 1700 01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,040 Speaker 1: was bouncing from this spot to that spot, and that 1701 01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:06,559 Speaker 1: spot to this spot, and I was realizing what he 1702 01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:08,200 Speaker 1: was here, and then I was over there, and then 1703 01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,479 Speaker 1: I was there and he was here, and I got 1704 01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:13,800 Speaker 1: to the point where I realized, Okay, there's sometimes and 1705 01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:15,320 Speaker 1: you need to be mobile, and you need to be 1706 01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:19,360 Speaker 1: bouncing around, but maybe there's sometimes when you shouldn't do that, 1707 01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:24,519 Speaker 1: and you just need to hunker down and hunt a 1708 01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,880 Speaker 1: basic zone that he knows right that you know you've 1709 01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:29,840 Speaker 1: got the right wind for, and you know he will 1710 01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:32,879 Speaker 1: eventually come through and give it two or three days 1711 01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:34,920 Speaker 1: or two or three sits, give it the time for 1712 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:39,240 Speaker 1: him to rotate through there. And so I eventually realized, Okay, 1713 01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop trying to get fancy with it, and 1714 01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop outsmarting myself, and I'm going to zero 1715 01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,479 Speaker 1: win on these couple of spots and and just hunt 1716 01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:52,400 Speaker 1: him until he's either here or he's not. And that 1717 01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:56,439 Speaker 1: is what eventually led me to, you know, those last 1718 01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,800 Speaker 1: two out of the final three encounters with him, one 1719 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:01,680 Speaker 1: of him was when he came in and got to 1720 01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:04,400 Speaker 1: about fifty five, and then the other one was when 1721 01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:07,880 Speaker 1: I missed him with a bow, and then finally I 1722 01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,680 Speaker 1: had to adjust later. But I do think that there 1723 01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:14,920 Speaker 1: was something to be said about finally realizing that my 1724 01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,679 Speaker 1: my comment, my my intuition was saying, Oh, this is crazy. 1725 01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:21,040 Speaker 1: He can't keep popping up in the same stupid places. Um, 1726 01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,240 Speaker 1: he's got to have moved on. He must have smelled 1727 01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,280 Speaker 1: you right now. You must have done something. He should 1728 01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:29,080 Speaker 1: have been educated. But I kept seeing something different, and 1729 01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:35,920 Speaker 1: eventually I had to tell myself, Okay, don't don't what 1730 01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:37,479 Speaker 1: am I trying to say here. Believe what your eyes 1731 01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:41,120 Speaker 1: are telling you, and don't outsmart yourself. Sometimes you just 1732 01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:44,240 Speaker 1: gotta be there and wait until things go the right way. 1733 01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:47,439 Speaker 1: So there's there's this interesting line you have to walk 1734 01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,400 Speaker 1: between be mobile, be mobile, get that first set, get 1735 01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:53,799 Speaker 1: that first set, adjust, change, surprise him. But then sometimes 1736 01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,719 Speaker 1: you just gotta be there and wait. So that's something 1737 01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,719 Speaker 1: that I don't know if what I just said there 1738 01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:03,799 Speaker 1: cleared articulates this thing yet, But there's there's this balance 1739 01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:07,200 Speaker 1: that I'm finding, and you need to learn how to 1740 01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,800 Speaker 1: and when to strike that balance and go one way 1741 01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:14,120 Speaker 1: or the other, which then brings me to another big takeaway, 1742 01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:16,799 Speaker 1: which is related to this whole idea of being mobile, 1743 01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:21,000 Speaker 1: and that's the importance of adapting fast. More than any 1744 01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:24,880 Speaker 1: other year, this season, on this set of properties, I 1745 01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,639 Speaker 1: had to deal with major changes, lots of different stuff 1746 01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:28,960 Speaker 1: going on for the first time ever that I can 1747 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:33,080 Speaker 1: remember out here, these crop fields got plowed under, and 1748 01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:37,480 Speaker 1: one of those happened in late October and change things dramatically. 1749 01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,519 Speaker 1: And then another set of fields got disked under and 1750 01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:44,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, it was like November somewhere around there, 1751 01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:47,960 Speaker 1: and that changed things even more dramatically. So each time 1752 01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,439 Speaker 1: that happened, it it was like a light switch event 1753 01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,599 Speaker 1: for the local deer populations. And I went from knowing 1754 01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,200 Speaker 1: what deer doing these places historically year after year, to 1755 01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:00,240 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're doing things completely different. If 1756 01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,400 Speaker 1: I had not been mobile, if I wasn't willing to 1757 01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:07,200 Speaker 1: quickly say, Okay, things are changing, how are they changing? 1758 01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,120 Speaker 1: What do I need to do? And I had to 1759 01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,840 Speaker 1: do that within a day or two, and and that 1760 01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:15,599 Speaker 1: was key to staying on this deer. Other examples would 1761 01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:19,880 Speaker 1: be hunting pressure. Several different times I had hunters really 1762 01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,640 Speaker 1: changed the game for me. Uh So you remember the 1763 01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,240 Speaker 1: story back in late October, when I thought I was 1764 01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:27,120 Speaker 1: getting in close. I was really in the best hot 1765 01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:30,080 Speaker 1: fresh sign hunting this spot ahead meal hunt in the past. 1766 01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:32,519 Speaker 1: Finally snuck in there, finally had the wind to do it. 1767 01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:34,960 Speaker 1: And then a neighbor shot a deer like fifty yards 1768 01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,080 Speaker 1: away from me and blew their wind all three and 1769 01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,080 Speaker 1: really blew that spot up. I thought that was going 1770 01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,719 Speaker 1: to be the spot. It wasn't. I had to quickly 1771 01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,840 Speaker 1: change put together a new plan how to attack this 1772 01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,320 Speaker 1: core zone from a different direction where that hunting pressure wasn't. 1773 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,160 Speaker 1: I was able to do that this year, and within 1774 01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:53,519 Speaker 1: a few days got back on him. Another example, this 1775 01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:57,920 Speaker 1: was the whole example, when Tram was locked on that dough. 1776 01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:01,719 Speaker 1: I saw him locked on the door heading a different direction, 1777 01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:05,080 Speaker 1: and he was the only darem after and he was 1778 01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,720 Speaker 1: heading to a food source away from me. And in 1779 01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:10,800 Speaker 1: past years I would have said, well, you know, there 1780 01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,040 Speaker 1: he goes. I guess the next hour and a half 1781 01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:15,479 Speaker 1: of the hunt is just gonna be me sitting here 1782 01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:18,760 Speaker 1: and wondering what's gonna happen. That maybe would have been 1783 01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,000 Speaker 1: me six seven, eight years ago, but this year it 1784 01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,920 Speaker 1: was Nope, I need to think fast. I needed to adapt, 1785 01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,040 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be aggressive and make this thing happen. 1786 01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:29,800 Speaker 1: So I decided, you know what, with this wind we have, 1787 01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:32,280 Speaker 1: I think I know where these deer going. I think 1788 01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,040 Speaker 1: I know what they're gonna do. I might be able 1789 01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,639 Speaker 1: to cut him off. And I went for it, got 1790 01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,280 Speaker 1: out of my tree, took a stab at going after 1791 01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:43,040 Speaker 1: those deer, and it didn't come together, but it almost did. 1792 01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:49,519 Speaker 1: So once again, I just have seen examples of quickly 1793 01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:55,200 Speaker 1: analyzing the situation and adapting to those new things fast 1794 01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:59,280 Speaker 1: and being confident in how you adapt. That proved to 1795 01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,439 Speaker 1: be very very important. I guess the very most important 1796 01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:03,560 Speaker 1: example was the very last one. I mean it is 1797 01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:05,880 Speaker 1: the very most important. I went from focusing on this 1798 01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,479 Speaker 1: core zone I've been talking about all day. Um, that 1799 01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:12,000 Speaker 1: was where I focused like two weeks of the hunt, 1800 01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:14,679 Speaker 1: and then I get back from the back forty seven 1801 01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:18,559 Speaker 1: days later, and everything is different. The deer gone, hunting 1802 01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,600 Speaker 1: pressures increased, they're doing things different, and I had to 1803 01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,880 Speaker 1: quickly fare, Okay, why are they gone and where have 1804 01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:28,880 Speaker 1: they gone to? And my hunch was that they're heading 1805 01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:30,880 Speaker 1: in a totally different direction out of this core zone. 1806 01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:33,439 Speaker 1: I made the pivot and lo and behold that was 1807 01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:36,160 Speaker 1: where they were and I killed the buck that night. Now, yeah, 1808 01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,120 Speaker 1: I got a little lucky, of course I did. Like 1809 01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:40,120 Speaker 1: I mentioned, you have to get lucky every once in 1810 01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,360 Speaker 1: a while. But I think because I was willing to 1811 01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:45,720 Speaker 1: make that quick change, trust the gut, trust my analysis, 1812 01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:48,120 Speaker 1: and then move on it fast. I wasn't gonna sit 1813 01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:51,120 Speaker 1: in my usual spot for two, three, four days. Well, eventually, change, 1814 01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:54,280 Speaker 1: eventually change. Nope, when you're not seeing what you want 1815 01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:57,240 Speaker 1: to see, change fast with it. And that's what I did. 1816 01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:00,960 Speaker 1: This brings me to the final big takeaway, which is 1817 01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,439 Speaker 1: related to what Dan was talking about there at the 1818 01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,720 Speaker 1: end when he made a really good point about how 1819 01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:08,680 Speaker 1: he's been able to get away from the stress and 1820 01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,799 Speaker 1: the worry of hunting season and just enjoy it. And 1821 01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:15,439 Speaker 1: he's one correct, that is what we need to be 1822 01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:18,120 Speaker 1: striving for. And for some people that's a lot easier 1823 01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:20,479 Speaker 1: to do than for other people. If you listen to 1824 01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:23,960 Speaker 1: this podcast, you know me. You know me well, you've 1825 01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:29,559 Speaker 1: heard me verbally vomit for seven years now, telling you everything, 1826 01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:32,760 Speaker 1: telling you my deepest, darkest fears, telling you about the 1827 01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:34,479 Speaker 1: best things I've done, the worst things, I've done. You've 1828 01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:38,720 Speaker 1: you've heard me share my mistakes and my successes. You've 1829 01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:42,880 Speaker 1: heard me try to verbally work out my thought process. 1830 01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:46,240 Speaker 1: You've heard me talk about my stresses and think through 1831 01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,880 Speaker 1: my strategies. You know what, you know what you're gonna 1832 01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:51,760 Speaker 1: get when it comes to me. And one of those 1833 01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:58,080 Speaker 1: things is being very goal oriented, being very mission focused, 1834 01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:02,360 Speaker 1: shooting for the moon, and and having a hard time 1835 01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:05,519 Speaker 1: not striving for those things. That's me, That's that's just 1836 01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:07,679 Speaker 1: who Mark Kenyon is. I want to do that stuff 1837 01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,479 Speaker 1: and I love that stuff, but it also inevitably does 1838 01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:14,519 Speaker 1: lead to stress, frustration, and it leads to you know, 1839 01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,360 Speaker 1: every hunting season, I have this back and forth go 1840 01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,400 Speaker 1: out in my head, and I've talked about it every year, 1841 01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:23,320 Speaker 1: so you you know this um and when I come 1842 01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:27,280 Speaker 1: back to every year and this year again is being 1843 01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:31,760 Speaker 1: able to find this strike this right balance. So much 1844 01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:33,519 Speaker 1: of what we're talking about here today, you know, this 1845 01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,920 Speaker 1: hunt comes down to striking balance. For me. It's this 1846 01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:42,240 Speaker 1: balance between chasing goals, chasing a dream, chasing something you're 1847 01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,439 Speaker 1: trying to achieve, or whatever it might be, filling the 1848 01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,639 Speaker 1: freezer for the first time, killing your first dear, killing 1849 01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:49,840 Speaker 1: a dear killing your first three and a half year old, 1850 01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:56,439 Speaker 1: dear whatever um striving for them, pushing yourself to do that. 1851 01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:59,759 Speaker 1: I really personally think there is value and pushing yourself 1852 01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:02,840 Speaker 1: to do things that are hard, to take on, things 1853 01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:06,040 Speaker 1: that are challenging and that you might fail at. Maybe 1854 01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:08,639 Speaker 1: that you probably will fail it. I think there's value 1855 01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:12,879 Speaker 1: in trying to do really hard ship and forcing yourself 1856 01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:16,360 Speaker 1: to grow and change and to face that adversity and 1857 01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:18,639 Speaker 1: to push through that. I think that leads to growth. 1858 01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,320 Speaker 1: I think that leads to good things. I think that, 1859 01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:26,120 Speaker 1: at least for me, is a really important part of life. 1860 01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:31,160 Speaker 1: So I like that. But what I also have been 1861 01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:34,559 Speaker 1: continuously trying to do is to get better at enjoying 1862 01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:39,280 Speaker 1: not just reaching that pinnacle, but really enjoying the entire process. 1863 01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:42,080 Speaker 1: And I'm really good at enjoying the process prior to 1864 01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:44,320 Speaker 1: unning season, when I'm thinking about it and planning for 1865 01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm really good at enjoying the process after hunting season, 1866 01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:50,680 Speaker 1: when it's all said and done and I can look 1867 01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,800 Speaker 1: back on it enjoy it in the moment. I'm great 1868 01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,920 Speaker 1: at enjoying the process seventy percent of the time, probably 1869 01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,120 Speaker 1: I really love it. And then thirty percent of the time, 1870 01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,400 Speaker 1: I get it too worked up, and I get too 1871 01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:06,479 Speaker 1: focused on when things aren't going well or why things 1872 01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:09,640 Speaker 1: aren't going well, or this decision versus that decision, or 1873 01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:11,800 Speaker 1: this outcome versus that outcome, and that's this thing that 1874 01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:13,800 Speaker 1: I guess gotta keep on working on. But this year, 1875 01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:19,519 Speaker 1: again I'm reminded of process, process, process, And throughout this year, 1876 01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:21,880 Speaker 1: I kept on going back to this when I read 1877 01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,320 Speaker 1: get into one of those little low points. Um, at 1878 01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:27,200 Speaker 1: least what I've seen my progress has has gotten to 1879 01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:29,800 Speaker 1: the point now where I'm not feeling like stressed out 1880 01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:31,559 Speaker 1: and bummed for days on end. It's it's like I'll 1881 01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,320 Speaker 1: have a moment and then I have a little mental 1882 01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:37,559 Speaker 1: conversation or internal conversation and then I get out of it. 1883 01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:39,560 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna have those those ups and downs, and 1884 01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have these conversations, a little self talk crazy 1885 01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:48,280 Speaker 1: markship where I say, Okay, Mark, you're frustrated, you're bummed out, Yeah, okay, 1886 01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:52,040 Speaker 1: but that's just part of it, or okay, that's not 1887 01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:54,360 Speaker 1: achieving anything. What can you do next? How do you 1888 01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:57,040 Speaker 1: move forward from this? Where do we go? And you 1889 01:41:57,080 --> 01:42:01,080 Speaker 1: know what, something I didn't mention, but it probably should 1890 01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:05,120 Speaker 1: be mentioned, is that this last weekend of hunting, all right, 1891 01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:07,400 Speaker 1: I told you that I got back from the Back 1892 01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:09,200 Speaker 1: forty and then I started hunting that weekend, and that 1893 01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:12,599 Speaker 1: first day, that Saturday, Saturday morning, Saturday night was a disaster. 1894 01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,560 Speaker 1: Didn't see anything, neighbor shot a deer, saw trespass, or 1895 01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:20,240 Speaker 1: all that stuff happened that night. I came back in 1896 01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:24,040 Speaker 1: Chattel my wife and I said, you know what, I'm 1897 01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:27,120 Speaker 1: just kind of I've been given it my all. I've 1898 01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:29,640 Speaker 1: been hunting NonStop between here and the Back forty and 1899 01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:33,200 Speaker 1: hosting people and filming and doing all these things, and 1900 01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:35,519 Speaker 1: it's great. I can't complain about it. I love it. 1901 01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm very I just want to make it clear that 1902 01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,519 Speaker 1: I don't want it to sound like I'm complaining about this, 1903 01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:43,880 Speaker 1: but at the same time, it also is. It's a 1904 01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:46,479 Speaker 1: lot of work still, and I had gotten to the 1905 01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:48,439 Speaker 1: point where I was I was worn out too, just 1906 01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:53,240 Speaker 1: worn to the grindstone. I'm not just whooped And I said, 1907 01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,760 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not. I'm not going to go 1908 01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:58,280 Speaker 1: out in the morning. I'd originally planned on hunting next morning, 1909 01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:00,599 Speaker 1: but I've been away from my family at I hadn't 1910 01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:03,680 Speaker 1: had a weekend morning to wake up and play with 1911 01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:05,920 Speaker 1: the kids and have a good time. I hadn't done 1912 01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:10,400 Speaker 1: that in three and a half weeks. And I said, 1913 01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:12,360 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not going out tomorrow. It's snowing, 1914 01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:16,840 Speaker 1: it's cold, it's awesome. You know, it's stupid not to go. 1915 01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,240 Speaker 1: I should go, but I'm not. I'm sleeping in. I'm 1916 01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:21,040 Speaker 1: gonna play with the kids. I don't have a good time. 1917 01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:22,880 Speaker 1: I want to have a little bit of this back. 1918 01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:24,320 Speaker 1: I want to enjoy that, and then I think I'll 1919 01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:26,439 Speaker 1: be more refreshed and enjoy it more when I go 1920 01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:28,360 Speaker 1: back on the evening. And at this point in the 1921 01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:30,800 Speaker 1: hunting season, that's probably what I needed to be a 1922 01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:33,840 Speaker 1: little more focused on. And that's what I did, and 1923 01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:37,400 Speaker 1: lo and behold a morning with the kids um led 1924 01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:42,160 Speaker 1: to an evening with a buck on the ground. Coincidence, correlation, 1925 01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, But maybe that was Mother Nature or 1926 01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:51,120 Speaker 1: the good Lord above or something telling me that, you know, 1927 01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:54,440 Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta take a step back, enjoy the process, 1928 01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,120 Speaker 1: have fun with this thing. This thing is about fun. 1929 01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:59,840 Speaker 1: This thing is about enjoying the connection we have with 1930 01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,960 Speaker 1: wild animals and wild places. And our family and friends, 1931 01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:06,559 Speaker 1: and and once again that was you know, that was 1932 01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:11,160 Speaker 1: that was illuminated, I guess for me, for lack of 1933 01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:15,040 Speaker 1: a better term. At the same time, though, at the 1934 01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:19,920 Speaker 1: same time, persistence is the name of the game as well, 1935 01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:24,600 Speaker 1: keeping at it, believing it could still happen, grinding in 1936 01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:27,800 Speaker 1: a day after day, all those early mornings, I mean, 1937 01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:32,280 Speaker 1: nothing can really make up for that. Sure you might 1938 01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:34,439 Speaker 1: get lucky some years and kill early. Sure you might 1939 01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:38,120 Speaker 1: get you know, something bounce your way and you don't 1940 01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:39,599 Speaker 1: need to put it in a lot of time and work. 1941 01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:45,479 Speaker 1: But if you want to have consistent success with anything, really, 1942 01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:48,360 Speaker 1: but in this case deer hunting, in my case, trying 1943 01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:51,439 Speaker 1: to kill a mature buck on small properties in Michigan, 1944 01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:56,439 Speaker 1: you gotta just keep after it. And the three year 1945 01:44:56,520 --> 01:45:00,120 Speaker 1: hunt for Tran all these things I just meant and 1946 01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:02,240 Speaker 1: are definitely wrapped up into it. But the name of 1947 01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:06,880 Speaker 1: the game, the big headline across the top over all 1948 01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:13,440 Speaker 1: this is persistence. Persistence through every crazy thing, every obstacle, 1949 01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:16,880 Speaker 1: every mistake, every bad decision, every good night, every bad night, 1950 01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:20,040 Speaker 1: every early morning, every late night, every time where you're 1951 01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:22,120 Speaker 1: tired and didn't want to get up in the morning, 1952 01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:24,120 Speaker 1: and I wanted to hit the snooze button on the 1953 01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:30,360 Speaker 1: little harm clock. Persistence is what killed this dear, So 1954 01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:35,679 Speaker 1: that is, uh is my typical Mark Kenyon long winded 1955 01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:37,519 Speaker 1: way of saying. This has been a hell of a hunt, 1956 01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:42,680 Speaker 1: a heck of a journey. I hope that through this story, 1957 01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:46,080 Speaker 1: this one here on today's podcast, but also the story 1958 01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,080 Speaker 1: that I've been telling you that has stretched over so 1959 01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:51,760 Speaker 1: many podcasts over these years, I hope that there's been 1960 01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:55,120 Speaker 1: something that that resonates with you or that you've been 1961 01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,559 Speaker 1: able to learn from it. Maybe learned from my mistakes, 1962 01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:01,000 Speaker 1: maybe you learn from my success, may be learned from 1963 01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:07,320 Speaker 1: all my knuckle headed um naval gazing, um talking all 1964 01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:09,600 Speaker 1: this stuff out as I'm just thinking it through. I 1965 01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,880 Speaker 1: don't know, but I sure I'm hoping that we all 1966 01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:15,880 Speaker 1: can come out of this um having learned something. And 1967 01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,760 Speaker 1: I just appreciate all of you following along. I know 1968 01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:22,000 Speaker 1: some people tire of my stories of these deer over 1969 01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:24,920 Speaker 1: and over again. UM, I hope that's not the case 1970 01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:28,000 Speaker 1: too often, because I I enjoy the heck out of it. 1971 01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:32,320 Speaker 1: I find um, I find it just to be never 1972 01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:36,120 Speaker 1: endingly fascinating, and so I'm thankful that you could all 1973 01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:39,040 Speaker 1: be here along with me. So that is a rap 1974 01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:42,120 Speaker 1: for today. Uh. The only other thing I'll mentioned is 1975 01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:45,160 Speaker 1: that new back forty episodes are up. Speaking of high 1976 01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:47,840 Speaker 1: points this season, my hunt with my dad killing his 1977 01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:50,160 Speaker 1: first deer with the archer equipment that just dropped here 1978 01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:53,880 Speaker 1: a few days ago. It was it was another one 1979 01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:59,000 Speaker 1: of those examples where family friends enjoying the process, enjoying everything, 1980 01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:03,080 Speaker 1: the ups and the downs. Um Man, that that really 1981 01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:05,200 Speaker 1: came to life for me during that experience. So, man, 1982 01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:08,400 Speaker 1: it has been a crazy, crazy hunting season. I've I've 1983 01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,400 Speaker 1: I've been really lucky to have a lot of things 1984 01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:14,439 Speaker 1: come together and and learned a lot and enjoyed a 1985 01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:17,479 Speaker 1: lot of incredible experiences out there. I hope you've had 1986 01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:21,519 Speaker 1: a successful, fun and fulfilling hunting season with your friends 1987 01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,000 Speaker 1: and family. I hope you're staying healthy. I know these 1988 01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:26,559 Speaker 1: are tough times for a lot of people. Um So 1989 01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:28,519 Speaker 1: I'm wishing you all the best here in these days 1990 01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:32,559 Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving. I hope you can enjoy this holiday season. 1991 01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:36,439 Speaker 1: I hope you can stay healthy and safe and best 1992 01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:38,160 Speaker 1: of luck out there hunting. Thank you for being a 1993 01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:41,000 Speaker 1: part of this community. Thanks for tuning in and until 1994 01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:45,160 Speaker 1: next time, stay wired to hunt.