1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to The Clay Travis and 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Buck, He's Clay. The Lines open eight 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: hundred two eight two eight eight two. Website for stories, updates. 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Everything we're doing Here is Clay and Buck dot com. 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Don't forget to follow Play Travis on Twitter, Buck Sexton 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: on Twitter, on Instagram. And I just want to say 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: today it feels like it's not going to be as 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: easy for the lockdowners as it was before. Yesterday, there 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: was a lot of anxiety, the markets were in turmoil. 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: The Biden administration came out with another one of his 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: anodyne boiler plate America's Grandpa who just says whatever his 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: handlers tell him speech to calm everybody down. Because things 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: were supposed to be better, but it really didn't. I 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: think feel like the markets were gonna respond to Biden. 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: So what is going on right now? Why is it? 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: We've had a pretty big rebound today and we've had 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: people willing to come out and say hold on a second, 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: all right, before we start having the domino effect of 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: mask mandates. Back in New York City after they've been 21 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: reinstituted in LA before. We have to look at booster 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: shots and all the other things that they're pretending have 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: been settled science in an instant. There are some out 24 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: there who are saying, not so fast. The very top 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: of the list, I think we'd have to put Governor 26 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Ron de Santis of Florida on the government's hypocrisy with 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: all of this day. I was a little bit perturbed 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: when I was at the southern border when I started 29 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: thinking about if you wanted to fly from Brazil, or 30 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: you wanted to do certain travel the way you would 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: be treated by the federal government under the auspices of 32 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: COVID mitigation, and some people wouldn't even be allowed to come. 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: A lot of these flights aren't even allowed. If you 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: wanted to go on a cruise ship, the federal government 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: doesn't want you except under extreme circumstances. So they're very 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: very rigorous with kind of lawful commercial activity and travel. 37 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: But if you just want to hop scotch across that border, 38 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: they don't care about COVID. They're letting you straight in, 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: They're throwing you on a bus, and they're sending you 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: all over the fruited plaine in this country. So I 41 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: don't understand how you square that. If you're saying the 42 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: cruises have to go through all these procedures because of COVID. 43 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you want people coming from a hundred different countries 44 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: to just not be able to pour into the country 45 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: effectively with very little pushback play the uprising of the MOM, 46 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: the LULA and MOM brigades against mask and something we've 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: talked about. I think we're seeing an uprising of the 48 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: rational against the absurdity of the regulations around COVID, the 49 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: absurdity of the open border and all the rest of it. 50 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: People can't take it anymore. I think it's well said. 51 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: Buck and I talked about this when we went down 52 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: to Mexico on a vacation, my wife and I in 53 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: order to get back in the country. And I think 54 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: this is still the rule. You had to have a 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: negative COVID test as an American citizen. Right, we went 56 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: to a Mexican resort. This was in late February. We 57 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: had to be tested at the resort. We had to 58 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: pretend the whole thing is cosmetic theater. Right. We had 59 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: to present our negative COVID test to a random Southwest 60 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: Airlines gate agent in order, like, what does that gay 61 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: agent care or have the knowledge to be able to 62 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: review a COVID test form. Moreover, he doesn't care. I mean, 63 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't want people stuck in Mexico. But anyway, we 64 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: had negative tests, we got back at the same time 65 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: they were not and continue to not test people who 66 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: are coming across the border illegally, allowing them to go 67 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: right in the country without being citizens very many times. Right, 68 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: So how did that policy make any sense at all? 69 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: And I think what's starting to happen is you're seeing 70 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: many of these rules which are being applied make no 71 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: sense when you start to unpack it, as Ron de 72 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: Santis just did in that same way. And that leads 73 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: to the big question that we were asking yesterday and 74 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: the one that we've been debating for the past several weeks. 75 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: Is there going to be a mass uprising of sorts 76 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: associated with all these draconian COVID protocols. I think there is, 77 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: and I think it's going to be connected to school 78 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: I really do. I think a lot of kids because remember, 79 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: under twelve year olds can't be vaccinated right now, there's 80 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: no possibility. And now there's talk that if you're three 81 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: year old has to wear a mask, and I think 82 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: a lot of parents are looking around and saying, all 83 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: of this is madness. And I think that's where the 84 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: uprising is going to start. With kids and the absurd 85 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: COVID protocols associated with them when we know they have 86 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: zero risk from COVID. That's where all this is coming from. 87 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: But I give credit to Ron de Stantis for standing 88 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: up and fighting back associated with cruise ships and other 89 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: businesses based in Florida. Florida has been an oasis of 90 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: freedom in a country where many people are still furious. 91 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: They're locked down, and frankly, our second largest city right now, La, 92 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: where I'm headed tomorrow, you're not even able to go 93 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: indoors without wearing a mask. Again, there's also the smugness 94 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: of these experts. There's the sense that we haven't seen 95 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: all the times they've been wrong or where they've failed, 96 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: and that we are seeing more pushback. For sure, there 97 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: are more people now than ever before, which makes perfect sense. 98 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: Eighteen months into this, eighty percent of seniors vaccinated people 99 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: are saying, hold on a second, the stupid COVID rules 100 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: are actually really stupid. That they can see this for 101 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: what it is. But when you tell them that, I mean, 102 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: here's NIH's director Francis Collins making a really just haughty 103 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: statement about how it's not like we're sending your kids, 104 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: you know, to the trenches in a shooting war. It 105 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: sounds like what you're saying, though, is you don't think 106 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: that the nation's pediatricians the AAP are off base in 107 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: what they're telling the do not. I have great respect 108 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: for the AAP, and I don't think they make these recommendations. 109 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: Likely they will not be popular amongst parents and kids 110 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: who are sick of masks. But you know what, the 111 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: virus doesn't care that we're sick of masks. The virus 112 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: is having another version of its wonderful party for itself 113 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: and to the degree that we can squash that by 114 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: doing something that maybe is a little uncomfortable, a little inconvenient. 115 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: It's not like we're asking people to go to the 116 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: trenches with shooting war. We're just asking you, if it 117 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: looks like it's going to help, put the mask back 118 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: on for a while. First of all, it doesn't help, 119 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: But bigger picture here, the pediatricians, I think this recommendation 120 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: is ludicrous. But the pediatrician's last June buck said all 121 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: schools need to be open, that there was no way 122 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: they should stay closed. And the same scientists that now 123 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: are talking about this mask recommendation, they wouldn't in any 124 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: way get on the line and argue in favor of 125 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: schools being open. So if you're going to follow the science, 126 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: last year's recommendation by the pediatricians that all schools need 127 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: to be opened should have happened, right. And I think 128 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: there are parents willing to make that trade. We made 129 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: it in my neighborhood and a lot of schools did. 130 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: Kids will wear masks in exchange for schools to be open. 131 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: But it's fascinating to me how few people were willing 132 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: to actually support the call for kids to be back 133 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: in school last year. As soon as they mentioned that 134 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: kids need to wear masks, all of a sudden, Hey, 135 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: we've got to listen to these authorities. They know exactly 136 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: what they're talking about. It can't be shut up and 137 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: do what the CDC says. Peasant when the lockdown left 138 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: likes it. But the moment that the CDC says something 139 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: that is more on the side of reopen or listening 140 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: oh no, we're going to ignore that. We're going to 141 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: take the extra precautions, even though the CDC would say, 142 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: Remember that, when initially the mask mandates were coming to 143 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: an end, there were all these different cities, governors, mayors 144 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: who were saying, well, hold on, we're not ready for 145 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: it yet. But it used to be will do whatever 146 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: the CDC says. So it can't be experts when you 147 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: like what they say, and we do our own thing 148 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: when you don't. But that has been a defining characteristic 149 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: of the lockdowners of the Fauciites, and and really I 150 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: think more than ever Clay, you just see, this is 151 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: a religious belief. Now for people, it's a lifestyle choice. 152 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: Taking the virus seriously through double masking and masking up 153 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: your kids at school and continuing on. People think they're 154 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: like brave warriors against COVID for doing stuff that the 155 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: experts they used to say, were beyond reproach or even 156 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: telling them that's not really necessary anymore. Well it is. 157 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: And that's why I think for people out there who say, oh, 158 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: COVID is over, I don't think they're not going to 159 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: give up on COVID. Right. There are people who are 160 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: so desperately committed to the idea of COVID fear porn, 161 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: as I call it, that they can't unleash it. Now 162 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 1: we should say positive story here because we opened with 163 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: the stock market tanking yesterday. As we speak, the stock 164 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: market has bounced back six hundred points and some of 165 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: the data buck I should also say this from yesterday. 166 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: Did you see the British scientist like changed his answer 167 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: to you gave us that break, You gave us that 168 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: breaking news. And then a few hours later he's like, oh, 169 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, roll numbers. It's like a big thing to 170 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: get wrong. So he initially said sixty percent of the 171 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: people testing positive for COVID right now and hospitalized in 172 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: Britain were COVID double vaccinated, and then he came back 173 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: and said, actually, somewhere around sixty percent are not, meaning 174 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: forty percent would be. It's all so confusing, and this 175 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: guy's the expert, Like, how do you go in front 176 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: of the media and screw up something that bad and 177 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: then try to clean it up? So I do want 178 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: to mention that because I said it on air yes 179 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: day and I was telling people what the expert said. 180 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: I was saying, don't you know, don't drop all your stock, folks, 181 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: because I thought it was it was a panic move 182 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: on a panic day. So not that I give stock 183 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: at fights here, but I'm just saying I had a feeling. Now. 184 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: Of course, in a week, maybe the market drops another 185 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: eight hundred points or something, and then I'll be eating 186 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: my words here. But I'm just I feel like Democrats 187 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: are psychologically in a fragile place right now because COVID 188 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: has been this crutch of meaning for them as well, 189 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: and they've had this whole fauci as America's you know, 190 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: kindly old doctor telling them what to do and they 191 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: get to zoom from their couch. And now it's like 192 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: the real world is coming back. And we're six months 193 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: into the Biden administration, and Biden is an ineffectual clown, 194 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: which we all knew from the beginning. The policy agenda 195 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: has run up into a brick wall for the Democrats. 196 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: Turns out they can't actually get all the Democrats to 197 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: even go along with all the insane stuff they want 198 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: to do. So Clay, I think it's something. Yes, obviously 199 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: the vaccine talk and everything else yesterday was getting people 200 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: really anxious, but I also just think that the left 201 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: is feeling uneasy in general right now, because what do 202 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: they have. You and I have freedom, happiness, and a 203 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: return to America to look forward to. They're not done 204 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: with COVID yet, they're still climate change to tackle. It's 205 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: well said because COVID has come to define so many 206 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: of these people's lives that I think about this book, 207 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: I mean, there's an entire We asked Alex Barnson about 208 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: this because he's like, look, I never thought that I 209 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: would spend all this time talking about COVID. There's an 210 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: entire collection of scientific experts in quotation marks who owe 211 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: their entire meal ticket to COVID still existing as a 212 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: major issue because once COVID goes away, they go away, 213 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: and they're not going to allow that to happen. We're 214 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: gonna be talking more about how the media also at 215 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: some level needs COVID panic because COVID truth doesn't get 216 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: the same kind of ratings COVID reality, I should say, 217 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: COVID reasonableness. And we've got big stuff happening at the border, 218 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: and we got Senator Ted Cruz from Tech just joining 219 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: us stets right, and just to be able to talk 220 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: to him about all of that and more. But you know, Clay, 221 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: last night I had my iPhone out. I was testing 222 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: it out once again. Just make sure hold on a second. 223 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: Do I get exactly the same cell service right now 224 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: as I did before? The answers, Yes, same clarity, same everything, 225 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: but it's costing a whole lot less. In fact, I'm 226 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: a single guy, but if I had a family, eight 227 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a year is what you could save just 228 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: by switching to Pure Talk for your cellular phone carrier. 229 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: Here's how the big wireless providers charge you for stuff 230 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: you don't need and perks you'll never use. Stop paying 231 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: for all that. Pure Talk gives you exactly the same 232 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: great coverage, but only charges you for this stuff you 233 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: really need, Clay, That's why we're customers, not only that 234 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: buck you just mentioned if you had a family. We 235 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: actually gave my son the iPhone twelve that Pure Talk 236 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: has provided to us, and he was ecstatic. He's about 237 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: to be fourteen, he's got all different sorts of school 238 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: and extracurricular activities his first phone. He was like, oh 239 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: my god, this is amazing. He was ecstatic. Over twenty 240 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: thousand of you smart Rushed listeners have done the same 241 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: for you or your family. And this is easy to do. 242 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: All you have to do to get unlimited talk plus 243 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: six gigs of data, all for just thirty dollars a month. 244 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: Right now from your cell phone, dial pound two fifty 245 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: and say pure Talk. That's pound two fifty and say 246 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: pure Talk, and you'll say fifty percent off your first 247 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: month pound two five zero and say pure Talk. You'll 248 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: have the option to receive a one time auto dial 249 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: text message from pure Talk. Sign up and save money. 250 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: Like Buck and I are welcome back. In appreciate all 251 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. As we roll through 252 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: the Tuesday edition of the program, I am Play Travis, 253 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: he is Buck Sexton. We are talking about the pushback 254 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: in a positive way that we have seen against what 255 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: I would call the COVID fear porn, which drove the 256 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: stock market down nearly a thousand points at times during Monday, 257 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: ended up closing down over seven hundred points. Now as 258 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: we speak, the stock market has come back pretty strongly, 259 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: up over six hundred points, so almost eliminating all of 260 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: the deficit that we saw happened yesterday. Buck, you were saying, 261 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: and I hope you're right that you hope this panic 262 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: is like sort of like in a movie when the villain, 263 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: the freddie Krueger, the Jason, you think that he's dead 264 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: and then he comes back one more time. That's what 265 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: you think is happening right now with COVID. I mean, 266 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: like the last few moments of die Hard where the 267 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: police officer who hasn't drawn his gun because of a 268 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: tragic accident when he was a young officer, has to 269 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: draw down on the guy with long blonde hair whose 270 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: name I can't remember. Yeah, the German guy who comes 271 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: out with the gun and still is alive, and all 272 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden he has to protect Yes that you you, 273 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: I hope you're right that. Well, his name is Carl 274 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: the movie, right, and he's got a stair stair ogue. 275 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: I think that he points anyway, It's such a great movie, 276 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: such a great movie, Diehard. I will be The hotel 277 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: that I stayed in was right by the Diehard. Uh. 278 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: The the Naka Tomi tower that stood in for die 279 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: Hard back in the day was amazing, by the way. 280 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: One concern though, and we talked about this a little bit, 281 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: there are protests now in Europe. McCrone and France has 282 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: effectively decided that they are going to implement vaccine passports. 283 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: Now the talk is and I don't know they they 284 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: floated this. They floated this already buck and said hey, 285 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: maybe we need sine passports in America. It got shot 286 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: down so aggressively. But now Boris Johnson in England has 287 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: said that he is going to implement vaccine passports beginning 288 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: in September. Here's audio of that. We're also concerned, as 289 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: they are in other countries by the continuing reast posed 290 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: by nightclubs. I don't want to have to close nightclubs 291 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: again as they have elsewhere, but it does mean nightclubs 292 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: need to do the socially responsible thing and make use 293 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: of the NHS COVID pass which shows proof of vaccination, 294 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: a recent negative test or natural immunity as a means 295 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: of entry. I should serve notice now that by the 296 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: end of September, when all over eighteens will have had 297 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: their chance to be double jab, we're planning to make 298 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: full vaccination the condition of entry to nightclubs and other 299 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: venues were large crowds gather proof of a negative test 300 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: will no longer be enough high risk people for a 301 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: COVID are not in nightclubs? Can we just if it 302 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: is two am and you're dancing on the tabletop to 303 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: techno music in London, I would hope that you're not, 304 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, in your mid seventies or early eighties with 305 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: multiple co morbidities, because it's not a good way to 306 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: be spending your time. But if you were, you're probably 307 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: pretty healthy and you'cinated. You're probably vaccinated. But what they 308 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: said there is initially and it's kind of hard to follow. 309 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: If they are going to try vaccine passports here, I 310 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: think we're going to have a battle royale that is 311 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: of epic proportions. But the fact that they are trying 312 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: it in France and the fact that they are going 313 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: to try it in England, I do think is an 314 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: ominous sign down the road. Now. I hope you're right, Buck, 315 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: and I hope the numbers are going to continue to 316 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: trend down over time such that this story kind of 317 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: goes away. But my concern is and fall and winter, 318 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: there's always a little bit of an increase, right, There's 319 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: always an inkling to allow the story to exist. My 320 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: concern too, is that we'll see a big push for 321 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: the super cautious preventative pre surge measures. They're gonna say, Oh, 322 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: we can't head an end to fall and wins right, 323 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: we can't wait for a surge. We have to get 324 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: ahead of us fout, she says, the surge. So we'll 325 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: come back to that. And by the way, Fauci getting 326 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: some rough stuff from Rand Paul. I love I love it. 327 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Rand Paul tomorrow. We're gonna come 328 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: back into that in just a moment. But I also 329 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: love dogs, like my favorite thing in the world, pretty much. Dogs. 330 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: We've got a French bulldog in the Sexton family to Lulah. 331 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: She's amazing, but she's got an upset tummy sometimes because 332 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: she's not getting all the nutrients she needs from her 333 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 1: dog food. So we've been adding Rough Greens in and 334 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: Rough Greens is incredible. You add it into your dog food. 335 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: It's not a dog food in itself. It's a healthy 336 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: supplement that you put in that gives you twenty three 337 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: all natural vitamins and middles for your dog, twenty digestive enzymes, 338 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: fifteen powerful strains of probiotics, omega oils three, six, and nine. 339 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: Great stuff. The folks at Rough Greens are so confident 340 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: that your dog is gonna love. Rough Greens have worked 341 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: out a special deal for our listeners. Just got to 342 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: Roughgreens dot com slash Clay and Buck and they'll give 343 00:18:51,040 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: you the first bag free. This is James Golden or 344 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: both Nerdly. I hope you're enjoying the podcast series Russian Lumbaugh, 345 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: the Man behind the Golden EIB Microphone. There's a dozen 346 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: episodes that will remind you of the greatness of rugs 347 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: with so many amazing stories shared. I'm your host of 348 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: this series, available wherever you listen to podcasts. My Pillow 349 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: and Tunnel to Towers Foundation are both sponsors. Welcome back 350 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: to the Clay Travis and Fuck Sexton Show. I am Buck, 351 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: and we are telling everybody to stick to the reality, 352 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: stick to the facts when it comes to COVID, no 353 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: more panic, pandemic. And let's remember that this thing is 354 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: has been going on for eighteen months. We're in a 355 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: much much better place than we were. A lot of 356 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: it through natural immunity what's up, Clay. A lot of 357 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: it through those of us who have had COVID, which 358 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: all sh don't get talked about at all. It's like 359 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: we don't exist. You know, I feel like we should 360 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: get a little bit of credit for our herd immunity contribution, 361 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: but no, we do not. Instead, they want us to 362 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: pile on with a vaccine and maybe boosters beyond that. 363 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: And I've got to say, there are very few people, 364 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Clay, very beginning, I remember you were, you 365 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: were a questioning masks. You used to come on my 366 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: other radio show and from your show and we would 367 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: talk about masks in the very beginning of the pandemic 368 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: and how dumb this whole thing was. But there's been 369 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: one person I think above all, above all others in politics, 370 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: and he's joining us tomorrow, right, yeah, Rand Paul. Third 371 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: hour of the show, Doctor Rand Paul has been willing 372 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: to go at the the ultimate sacred cow, if you will, 373 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: the the ultimate person who is beyond reproach doctor Fauci 374 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: and try to hold this little lab coat, tyrant, this 375 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: little health policy stalinist to account. And we have and 376 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: in this time all the issue specifically of the Wuhan 377 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: lab leak, which let's remember if this was true, if 378 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: it did leak from the lab, which Clay you I mean, 379 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm ninety percent on it. We're you if I were bet, 380 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: it's a great question. I'm probably. I mean, to me, 381 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: it's like Okam's razor. You look at all the evidence 382 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: and whatever, the most likely outcome is the most likely outcome. 383 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: To me, it's it's it's a ninety percent ish theory 384 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: as well. I just think it's far more probable than 385 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: not based on all the evidence. Right, Like for example, 386 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 1: Jesse's Smollett, I said, I'm ninety nine point nine percent 387 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: sure just because, like you know, maybe you know that 388 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: the craziest thing in the universe could have happened. But 389 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: on this one, I'd say I'm ninety percent, meaning that 390 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm pretty damn sure. But I'm not one hundred percent 391 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: sure on the lab league, And I don't think, by 392 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: the way, we'll ever know, unfortunately, one hundred percent, because 393 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to find the proverbial smoking 394 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: gun in COVID because China has covered it up, which 395 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: makes it even more likely to me that it did 396 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: come out of a lab because if it was truly 397 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: something that moved from an animal to a man, which 398 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: is what they've been trying to argue, then you would 399 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: think they would want that to be uncoverable. Yeah, of course, 400 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: and that would be something they could show us definitively. 401 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: But I do believe that we'll get to a point 402 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: based on the research they're doing, which is where you 403 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: actually get into true expertise that I don't understand, but 404 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: into the amino acid chains that make up the virus 405 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: that you can tell almost like a virus fingerprint. You 406 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: can tell if it's been manipulated in some way or 407 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: you know the basic structure of it. So that may be. 408 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: But the Chinese Communist Party, it doesn't matter. We could 409 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: have every scientist in the world say it came from China. 410 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: The CCP is going to say, actually no, and hey, Taiwan, 411 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: we've got eyes on you like this is you know, 412 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: there's gonna be Chinese Communist Party stuff that we're not 413 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: gonna be able to change no matter what. And I 414 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: would just say right now, though, doctor Fauci is the 415 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: one guy who really tries to hold I'm sorry, Rand Paul. 416 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: Doctor Rand Paul is the one guy who tries to 417 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: hold Fauci to account. And this was a fowy one. 418 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: Doctor Fauci, knowing that it is a crime to lie 419 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: to Congress, do you wish to retract your statement of 420 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: May eleventh, where you claimed that the AGE never funded 421 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: gain a function research in Wuhan. Senator Pole, I have 422 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: never lied before the Congress, and I do not retract 423 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: that statement. This paper that you're referring to was judged 424 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: by qualified staff up and down the chain as not 425 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: being gain of function. What was Let me finish, shake 426 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 1: an animal virus and you increases the transibility to humans. 427 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: You're saying that's not gain a function. That is correct, 428 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: And Senator Poul, you do not know what you are 429 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: talking about, quite frankly, and I want to say that officially, 430 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: you do not know what you are talking about. Okay, 431 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: you get an one person a function. This is your 432 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: definition that you guys wrote. It says that scientific research 433 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: that increases the transmissibility among animals is gain of function. 434 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: They took animal viruses that only occur in animals and 435 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: they increase their transmissibility to humans. How you can say 436 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: that is not gain a funci It is not. It's 437 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: a dance, and you're dancing around this because you're trying 438 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: to obscure responsibility for four million people dying around the 439 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: world from a pandemic. Wow, that is again, when you 440 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: really put I gotta give Rand Paul credit here. Okay, 441 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: when you really put doctor Fauci on the witness stand, 442 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: do you know what he sounded a little bit like? 443 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: There Buck, He sounded like Bill Clinton saying that depends 444 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: on what the meaning of the word is. Is right, 445 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: there are great That sounded to me like a warrior 446 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: defense that Anthony Fauci is trying to trot out where 447 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: he's trying. Look, the basic essence, which I think most 448 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: people out there would agree with, is if you are 449 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: doing what Rand Paul just laid out, that sounds like 450 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: gain a function to me, and it sounds like it 451 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: meets the deaf mission of gain a function that the 452 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: NIH used, and Faucci is trying to argue that it 453 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: is not based on some like subtle legal technicality. When 454 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: everybody out there listening the common sense, if you're talking 455 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: to a jury, that sounds like Rand Paul just caught 456 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: doctor Faucci in a guaranteed straight up Why think about 457 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: the incentives here as well as the evidence that we 458 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: have from the early stages of the COVID lab league. 459 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: Assuming that that thesis is correct, of course, the international 460 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: health policy community did not want this to come out 461 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: as something that was the result of research. The Chinese 462 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: Communist Party obviously did not want this to come out 463 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: as the result of research at a lab that has 464 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: some degree of connection to the military in China, As 465 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: all major industry, all major scientific research, whether you're talking 466 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: Cuba or China, government authorities are calling the shots. So 467 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: everyone needs to remember that if you just think about 468 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: how much different the story changes for COVID, if this 469 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: is a man made virus that American taxpayer dollars helped 470 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: to fund, that then escaped to the lab and has 471 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: killed four million people. What everyone listened to the same 472 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: public health experts, by the way, when they were saying, 473 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, so you've got to think about it from 474 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: the little Stalinist lab coat Tyrant Fauci mindset here, you've 475 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: got to think about in his mind, oh my gosh, 476 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: we're getting hit with this pandemic. The global health community, 477 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: there's international cooperation with this lab. That's a fact. Now, 478 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: the global health community was involved in something that at 479 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: some level could be seen as reckless and a precursor 480 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: to this whole thing. And then in order to get 481 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: people to do what you Fauci think is necessary. Whatever 482 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: you have to say at that point, you justify you 483 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 1: know what I mean, if you have to lie in 484 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: Faucci's mind, what I'm trying to say is if he 485 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: had to lie in the early stages, even about the 486 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: level of certainty of the thesis of the lab League, 487 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: he could justify it to himself. I can assure you 488 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: by was saving lives. Not only that, I always say, 489 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: if you're trying to decide between who is lying, who 490 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: has more incentive to why? What does rand Paul really 491 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: gain as a United States Senator by buying in on 492 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: a lie and helping to propagate it as a physician 493 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: in the United States Senate? Virtually nothing? Right to me, 494 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: Rand Paul would stand gain virtually nothing, Doctor Fauci, as 495 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: you just said, stands to gain everything and or lose everything. 496 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: When you analyze who is likely to be telling the truth, 497 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: the motive ie what someone gains or loses, often can 498 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: go towards the ermining who is telling the truth and 499 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: speaking of the truth. We appreciate people on this program 500 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: who tell the truth, Buck Sexton. That's what we try 501 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: to do every day, and we try to also have 502 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: advertisers who want to tell the truth to you and 503 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: look right now, all throughout my house, I have got 504 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: Mike Clinton Dell's My Pillow products. Got it on the beds, 505 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: got it in the bathrooms, and they have a six 506 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: piece towel set made with US cotton, making it extremely 507 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: absorb it yet still providing the soft feel you'll look 508 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: for in a towel. Set. Comes with two bath, two 509 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: hand towels, two wash cloths. Typically cost one nine ninety nine. 510 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: Right now, limited time, you can get it for thirty 511 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: nine ninety nine with the promo code Clay and Buck. 512 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: You got them too, tell us about the difference it makes. Buck. 513 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: It's a game changer for my sleep, but also all 514 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: over the house because I've got now the my pillows 515 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 1: on my bed, I've got the my towels. I just 516 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: placed an order today for two more sets of Giza 517 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: dreamsheets and two bath mats and a Queen size down comforter, 518 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: all from My Pillow. Because these are the best products 519 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: in this class you're gonna get anywhere. Plus you're supporting 520 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: someone with Michaelndell and My Pillow that's an all American 521 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: entrepreneur who believes in free speech and freedom and patriotism. 522 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: So get great products and support somebody who is critical 523 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: to the truth and conservative media. Go to my pillow 524 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: dot com click on Radio Listeners Specials to get this 525 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: insanely low price of thirty nine ninety nine on the 526 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: two set I just ordered this morning, two sets in 527 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: Ocean blue. That's right, two twists in Ocean Blue. You'll 528 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: find deep discounts on other my Pillow products as well. 529 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: Enter promo code Clay and Buck, We're called eight hundred 530 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: seven nine two three two six nine. That's eight hundred 531 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: seven nine two three two six nine for these amazing 532 00:29:51,280 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: radio specials. Welcome back to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton 533 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: show lines are open. Nine I'm sorry eight hundred two 534 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: eight two two eight two. Eight hundred two eight two 535 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: eight eight two talking about what we're seeing here from 536 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: the people that have been demanding more lockdowns and demanding 537 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: that you tow a certain line, and that means that 538 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: social media giants have to be brought to bear. Social 539 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: media giants that might be or are as we know, 540 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: colluding with this White House. Here is Jensaki, who's out 541 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: there to just remind you, oh, don't worry, they're not 542 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: going after individual Facebook users from the White House level. 543 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: Yet that's what she's saying. First of all, we've not 544 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: asked Facebook to block any individual posts. The way this 545 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: works is that there are trending There are trends that 546 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: are out there on social media platforms. You're aware of them, 547 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: We're aware of them. Anyone in the public can be 548 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 1: aware of them. There's also data that we look at 549 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: that many media platforms, like many of you, also look 550 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: at data in terms of trends and your report on it, 551 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: which is not to be expected given the number of 552 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: people who get their information from social media. It's up 553 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: to social media platforms to determine what their application is 554 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: of their own rules and regulations. And so we just 555 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: certainly raise where we have concerns about information that's inaccurate 556 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: that is traveling out there in whatever platform it's traveling on. 557 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the White House play nice free speech, you 558 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: got there be a shame if something happened to it. Well, 559 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: this is to me the best thing that could happen 560 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump's lawsuit, because I don't know if Jen 561 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: Saki is so drunk on her own power that she 562 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: didn't even realize what she's been saying which is crazy 563 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: because the job of a spokesperson is to be completely 564 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: on top of what she is saying on a day 565 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: to day basis. But buck she said that the White House, 566 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: even by that attempted cleanup, is monitoring what is being 567 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: said on Facebook and telling them what can, in their 568 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: opinion and should not be said on Facebook. And frankly, 569 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: Biden took it even a step further and when he 570 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: said no, they're murdering people, which was a stupid, kind 571 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: of old man buffoonish thing to say, which we're getting 572 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: used to which Joe Biden in the White House. But 573 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: then Jinsaki also said, hey, if you're banned on one 574 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: tech platform, you should have to be banned on other 575 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: tech platforms as well, which effectively encourages directly from the 576 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: White House all of these big tech companies to collude 577 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: in banning people. And why does that matter? Some of 578 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: you out there saying, well, it doesn't sound right, but 579 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: why does it matter? Well, the First Amendment argument, as 580 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: it pertains to the collusion that I believe is going 581 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: on between big tech and the Democratic Party. In terms 582 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: of restricting content, you need to show a form of 583 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: state action. And if Facebook is afraid of consequences from 584 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: the White House, and if other tech companies are as well. 585 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: What we're having is a default, a default First Amendment 586 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: violation occurring because of the state action of big tech companies. 587 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: And I think we're getting closer and closer to the 588 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: right judge examining all this evidence. And I say the 589 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 1: right judge because different judges have different opinions. You need 590 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: someone who values the First Amendment in this country and 591 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: is an absolutist. If that happens, we may get some 592 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: ruling buck which would be wild. I'd love to see 593 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: the reaction on the Blue checks where suddenly there is 594 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: a ruling that we need to have Trump having access 595 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: to these platforms once more right, because that would be 596 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: a decision that The part of the problem with all 597 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: these conservative efforts to fight back against big tech is, Okay, 598 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: what's the remedy, what do we want? What do we 599 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: and people some people say break them up, say their monopoly. 600 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: Others say, oh, we need to treat them like a 601 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: public utility. Others say we just need to remove remove 602 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: section in what two forty right. I mean, there's all 603 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: these different things that people bring up. Is how we 604 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: get big tech, which controls the public square effectively now 605 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: to be able or to stop being so partisan. But 606 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: with the Trump situation, just him having his accounts, should 607 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: he run again is going to be quite a thing. 608 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: And remember the Citizens United. The Democrats pretend like this 609 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: is not the kid. The Obama administrations lawyers argued in 610 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: Citizens United, and of course they lost, and now they 611 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: act like it's endless foreign money and elections. It's not true. 612 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: They argued that banning of books Clay before an election 613 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: should be allowable because of the unfair campaign activity of 614 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: publishing a book within ninety days or sixty days of 615 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: an election. That was the position of the Democrats and 616 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: the Obama administration in Citizens United, which they lost. Remember 617 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: the positions of Democrats when it came to whether Donald 618 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: Trump should be able to block people from his Twitter account, 619 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: they argued that was impermissible. Now it ended up not 620 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: being and becoming a moot point because he doesn't have 621 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: the accounts anymore. But that precedent and that argument could 622 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: come back to bite them, because if you don't believe 623 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: that a president should be able to block someone on Twitter, 624 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: how should you be able to believe that big tech 625 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: should be able to block a president. But also, isn't 626 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: it just so creepy how comfortable Saki Bomb and the 627 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: rest of the handlers around Biden, just how comfortable they 628 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: are with shutting downs. I mean, they are not in 629 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: favor of this. White House does not support free speech period. 630 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 1: I mean, it's obvious they want to kick people off 631 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: not just one, but all platforms for violations. They want 632 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: the social media sensors to step in on matters of 633 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: tremendous public importance like the lab bleak theory, like vaccine 634 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: efficacy or whatever and say there's only one allowable position. 635 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 1: These people are authoritarians. The Democrat Party has embraced authoritarianism 636 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: when it comes to speech. Yeah, and it would be different, 637 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: I think buck, if there were certainty here in some way, 638 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: it would still be inappropriate for the government to be involved. 639 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: But we're talking about robust debate surrounding issues that have 640 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: not yet been resolved. They're blocking the truth as often 641 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: as they are blocking fiction. And as we always say, 642 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: one important lesson here is you always have to remember 643 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: when there is a fact checker who is checking the 644 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: fact checker, Because when you are attempting to determine truth, 645 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: the biases of the fact checkers come in in a 646 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: massive way, and I think that's significant here. The bias 647 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: of the media is something that we're going to tear apart. 648 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: Coming up here in a minute, might even have some 649 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: fun with bread Stelter of seven that's coming up. You're 650 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: listening to Clay Travis send Buck Sexton on the EIB Network.