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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt. It's a lovely Tuesday here.

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Speaker 2: Not really, it's kind of kind of gloomy Tuesday here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Fall is definitely here now it is.

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Speaker 3: But that's our edge football season.

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Speaker 2: It's football weather. Yeah, and Matt, I was. I was looking.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Mike Tomlin had his news conference today as presconference,

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Speaker 2: and there was no information gleaned whatsoever. But I saw

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Speaker 2: this article by Dan Graziano and ESPN and it got

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Speaker 2: me to thinking, Okay, the article is the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: three NFL best value contracts and rookie deals at each position.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And he got me thinking. I saw it and

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Speaker 3: didn't click on it. I was curious about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no Steelers are mentioned in this particular.

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Speaker 3: Okay, peace, Like, what would he pick one running back,

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Speaker 3: one tight end? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Just one position by position? But I wanted to look

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Speaker 2: at the Steelers roster and I'm looking here on spot track.

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Speaker 3: Got finances here a little bit, Yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Well finances here, who is doing the job for their

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Speaker 2: money and who isn't?

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're gonna go through everyone? Yeah, why not? Goodbye week?

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Speaker 3: We got time to do right here. It's a two

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Speaker 3: get two segment, but let's do it. Uh So t J.

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Speaker 2: Watt leads his cap. TJ Wat's cap hit this year

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Speaker 2: is twenty nine point basically twenty nine point four million.

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Speaker 3: Let's explain real quick, though. Cap hits can be a

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Speaker 3: little misleading depending on how the contract.

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Speaker 2: Is twenty But yeah, I mean what he counts against

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Speaker 2: the cap this year?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's the best way to do it too.

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Speaker 2: That's twelve point eight percent of the cap.

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Speaker 3: That's perfectly fine with me.

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Speaker 2: I am one yes in on.

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Speaker 3: That, Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean I think that

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Speaker 3: he's worth every bit of that. I know there was

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Speaker 3: some some Steeler fans out there like, wow, whenever the

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Speaker 3: contract hit, that's an amazing amount. You know, that's a

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Speaker 3: going rate. He's worth every penny. We've seen the defense

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Speaker 3: with him without him, you know.

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Speaker 2: I yeah, I mean it's pretty drastic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the case is pretty strong. I mean, it wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be hard to be his lawyer in this case.

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Speaker 2: No, the number two pay guy on the team in

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Speaker 2: terms of cap hit his chooks a corps for it

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Speaker 2: thirteen million.

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Speaker 3: That sounds terrible, you know. I mean, boys, he's not

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Speaker 3: the second best player on the team. Tackles aren't cheap,

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Speaker 3: and when he hit the open market, he was going

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Speaker 3: to get that or more if you would have hit

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Speaker 3: the open market.

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Speaker 2: I should also note that this doesn't count guys who

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Speaker 2: are on injured reserve.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so the game's not available.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Cam's not available, Deontae Johnson, those guys are

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Speaker 2: are both bigger, Yeah, because obviously they're not. You're not

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Speaker 2: getting the value out of them if they're on IR.

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Speaker 3: Right. That's a tough one for me, you know, like

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Speaker 3: if you told me after the season you could cut him,

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Speaker 3: That's the way I'm looking at. I know that all

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Speaker 3: these contracts don't work this way. They're all you know,

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Speaker 3: some of them are up after the year. But could

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Speaker 3: you save thirteen million by cutting Chokes after the year?

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Speaker 3: Would you do it or not? I'm kind of torn

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Speaker 3: because replacing him wouldn't be easy. It's not his fault.

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Speaker 3: But you do have Dan Moore on the team who

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Speaker 3: could be a right tackle at a fraction of the

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Speaker 3: cost and then use a second round pick on one

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Speaker 3: or whatever. So I'm gonna say no, not worth the money.

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Speaker 2: He's five point seven percent of the salary cap.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but if he were on the open market, I

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Speaker 3: think he'd get more than that.

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Speaker 2: I will say this, he never missed. He's always available.

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Speaker 3: That's important.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was just out there all the time.

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Speaker 3: He's younger than you think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a thing today. In fact, we'll get

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Speaker 2: to it. We do the power rankings, but somebody like

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Speaker 2: the offensive line would be much better if Chukes of

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Speaker 2: korfour would stop getting penalties. And I'm like, has he

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Speaker 2: been highly penalized? I went and looked him.

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Speaker 3: Like Steelers in general have not got He's got two

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Speaker 3: penalties this year. It's not too bad through the five games.

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Speaker 2: I mean, okay, one of those was for the for

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Speaker 2: the uh uh he was the guy who was supposed

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one wasn't lined up. It's not him.

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Speaker 2: He's not illegally in illegal formation.

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Speaker 3: He's lined up at right tackle and got a flag

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Speaker 3: thrown at him. There's nobody else lined up to his right. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so he has a one penalty. Yeah, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: hold that again.

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Speaker 2: Now, he's had a couple other ones that have been called,

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Speaker 2: but they haven't been They've been declined like because those

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Speaker 3: They don't.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Steelers offensive line has I believe

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Speaker 2: one holding penalty this year. Now, of course four has it.

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Speaker 3: He's the one that got but one. Well, they've also

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Speaker 3: faced by far the toughest slate of defenses in the

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Speaker 3: league and some elite at Rusher. Yeah, I mean elite.

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Speaker 2: Uh, James Daniels is eleven point one six million dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's four point eighty seven percent of the salary cap.

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Speaker 3: It's not a slam dunk. But I don't have a

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Speaker 3: problem with that. And as a rule of thumb, spending

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Speaker 3: money on the offensive line, if it's questionable or not,

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Speaker 3: I'm always going to side towards give the player the money. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Make it Fitzpatrick seven point nine three million dollars three

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Speaker 3: If it was double that, I think we'd have a conversation. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's stealing. Yeah, yeah, no, his some of

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Speaker 3: these guys, get us some.

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Speaker 2: Restructure in there, so you know that lowered his costs

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Speaker 3: But we're not going to break down fifty three players

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Speaker 3: now contracts and exact you know where they got their

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Speaker 3: this year? A thousand? Yeah, right right?

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Speaker 2: Mason Cole right now is six point nine million. That

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Speaker 2: is three point two percent of the salary cap.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to know on that. I think he's taking

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Speaker 3: find a center in the offseason and his eventual role

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Speaker 3: Finney that we talk about, you know, the guard center,

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Mitch Trubisky at six million is two point six

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Speaker 2: two percent of the salary cap.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure many are like no, I think the answer

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Speaker 3: is yes, yes, quarterback and like it. This is going

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Speaker 3: to lead me down another tangent, but like, how on

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Speaker 3: earth do the Bears who had the most cast faced

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Speaker 3: in the league when the season starts, tyson Tyson badge

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Speaker 3: and as your backup quarterback, I mean that was your

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Speaker 3: plan as your six or seventh round pick out of

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Speaker 3: the small school on the planet is going to back

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Speaker 3: up your guy that's not even a surefire start.

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Speaker 2: And there is he's nothing like your starting quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Well that too, I mean that drives me crazy.

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Speaker 2: If you Cunningham all right now we're talking. At least

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Speaker 2: you can run the same offense exactly.

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Speaker 3: I think that's part of it. But i'd rather Tyrod Taylor.

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Speaker 3: I mean, somebody it's been around the block that could

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Speaker 3: help mentor could be a trabisky. That's a sounding board,

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Speaker 3: a sounding board, and sixty nine starting quarterbacks started a

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Speaker 3: game last year and we're quickly going down that road

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Speaker 3: now and it's a middle of October. I mean the

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Speaker 3: Browns are on number three. Yeah, how do you? That's

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Speaker 3: why Mitch is worth the money. It is my defense.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. Chris Boswell is five point six

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Speaker 2: four million dollars. That's two point four to six percent

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Speaker 3: He's definitely worth it. But do you happen to know

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Speaker 3: if the top of your head. If you don't, don't

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Speaker 3: look it up. But is he a top three five?

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Speaker 2: Top five?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I know he's near the top, not number one,

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Speaker 3: and he should be. He's had one so so year.

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Speaker 2: Levi Wallace is five point four eight million dollars against

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Speaker 2: the cat. That's two point three nine percent.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna say no on that too. I think

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Speaker 3: you need to upgrade there. Yeah, and that's a.

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Speaker 2: Different that's a different say is it worth what he's

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Speaker 3: I mean, has he started up to that? It's like choo, so,

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Speaker 3: I mean a starting tackle. Is that's the going rate

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Speaker 2: The thing the thing that you notice here quickly is

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Speaker 2: so they're not in the mix here. But even with that,

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Speaker 2: you you've only got five guys making more than ten

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Speaker 3: Them, which gives you a lot of freedom too. Like

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Speaker 3: conceivably you could cut Chooks, Coal and Wallace and go

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Speaker 3: sign somebody big or different replacements or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Well, they'd there'd be dead money.

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Speaker 3: There would be I know, I mean, but do you

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Speaker 3: have you do have a lot of cap flexibility. I

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Speaker 3: don't think he's worth that money though, I mean I

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Speaker 3: think he's also kind of the Mason Coal conversation. I

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Speaker 3: think he's had a down year, that he's trending the

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Speaker 3: wrong direction, and he's not as athletic or fast as

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Speaker 3: I want on the edge. I mean, I'm down on

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Speaker 3: the secondary across the board not named inca.

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Speaker 2: Larry Ogan Jobi is four point nine to three million.

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Speaker 2: That's two point one of the salary cap.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's I would say it's a bargain, but

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Speaker 3: that's a nice deal for a consistent I don't know

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Speaker 3: if i'd use work consistent with him, but a contributor

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Speaker 3: that's value that ideally plays forty five snaps game something

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Speaker 2: So that's what he's playing now. Yeah, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: he's playing like sixty five percent of the defensive snaps.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean Cam's been out too, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean so, no, he's valuable.

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Speaker 2: Alex high Smith only counts four point four one eight

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Speaker 2: million dollars against cap this year.

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Speaker 3: That's stealing. I don't know his contract off the top

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Speaker 3: of my head, but it has to spike like crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll go up, yeah, go up. In future.

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Speaker 3: It'll be a conversation this time next year.

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Speaker 2: Patrick Peterson is four point two two five million dollars.

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Speaker 3: He's a no for me as well. But I think

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Speaker 3: he's being miscast, Like I would love to see him

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Speaker 3: not line up outside the numbers and hose.

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Speaker 2: To be out there. This is the problem that I

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Speaker 2: have with all the Joey Porter stuff. Now you just

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Speaker 2: talked about Levi Wallace. Yeah, now you're talking about Patrick Peterson.

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Speaker 2: There's only one Joey Porter. You can't clone him.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know. I mean if it was my call

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Speaker 2: We're getting to that point. And this is, you know

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be out there eighty percent of the time.

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Speaker 2: He probably plays his most snaps of the year this week.

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Speaker 2: People are complaining. They're not thinking this through. They're complaining

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Speaker 3: But people think that four defensive ACKs on the field

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Speaker 2: Isaac Samalo three point six million. That's one point five

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Speaker 3: The great contract. Yeah, that's very worth it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Nasei Harris is three point five to five million.

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Speaker 3: I have no problems with it whatsoever. The conversation will

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Speaker 2: I think he's played well this year. I just don't

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Speaker 3: I think the ball carriers are the least of the problems.

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Speaker 2: You know, Montrevius Adams is three point twenty three to

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Speaker 3: Quietly having an exceptional year.

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Speaker 2: I would say one point four to one percent of

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Speaker 3: I mean some of this is because he is just behind.

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Speaker 3: he's doing a lot more than that, and it'll get

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Speaker 3: cut down. I'm sure when Hayward returns and as Benton

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll go back to playing forty five percent of

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Speaker 3: I think he's done well.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Kenny Pickett is three point seven percent of the

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Speaker 3: It's stealing. I mean that's whether he has a good

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Speaker 2: Alan Robinson is uh three point eight two million dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's one point three four percent of the salary cap.

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Speaker 3: See. This is a little bit of a glitch in

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Speaker 3: we've gone through ten of names or so, I'd say, no,

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Speaker 3: he's not worth it. But is he that small amount

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Speaker 3: I mean, and so does Peters. I mean, so most

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Speaker 3: this isn't the Chargers. You're like, it's Khalleiveland Mackworth eighteen

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Speaker 2: Broderick Jones is three million one Yeah, and all the

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Speaker 3: Incompletely extremely worth it though, Holcombe.

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Speaker 2: Two point seven two million.

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Speaker 3: This is probably the best part of the exercise. It's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one point of the cap I mean.

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, we could add it up, but I mean

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Speaker 3: Hulcombe plus Alexander plus Roberts is probably five percent of

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Speaker 3: at like if he's the most in terms of in.

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Speaker 2: Terms of spending spending here six about seven million dollars.

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Speaker 3: For those two for one whole position group basically taken out.

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Speaker 3: It's great, and they're getting more than that out of them.

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Speaker 2: The Bears pay Tremaine Edmunds eighteen.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I trade any

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Speaker 3: one of them for Tremaine. Of course that's not that's

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Speaker 3: not the issue.

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Speaker 2: Again, you can't clone him.

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Speaker 3: You can't clone him, and you can't say I'd trade

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Speaker 3: Cole Holcombe forum straight up, of course you would. But

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Speaker 3: we Detroy trade Cole Hulcombe and sixteen million in cap

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Speaker 2: Right, No, that's it's totally different, right, Nate Herbig two

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Speaker 2: point five to four million, that's one point one percent

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Speaker 3: I think that's the going rate for a strong backup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I slid backup. Miles killer Brew is two point

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Speaker 2: four eight two million. That's one point eight percent of

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you gotta pay if you want to

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Speaker 2: the full back to that. Mine can't look at him

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Speaker 3: I was gonna mention Watt. I was gonna mention Matti

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Speaker 3: Kaevich's deal gust year for Buffalo. I think he made

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so even less than Killerbrew though, And I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna see it this week when they play

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Speaker 3: No, not at all. And it might show up bad.

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Speaker 3: It might not, but it's more likely to show up bad.

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Speaker 2: I finally found their their punt yardage, punt return yardage against.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's that's atrocious, that's really bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, A Landam Roberts is two point three three two million.

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Speaker 3: That's just kind of already tald about him. Just over

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Speaker 3: one percent quality. You're getting good money spent there.

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Speaker 2: Demante kz is two point one two five million dollars

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Speaker 3: So again, I mean, he's like Alan Robinson to me

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Speaker 2: You can't do it because you're not paying these guys exactly.

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Speaker 3: But the investment. Are you getting your money out of it? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, two different stories.

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Speaker 2: Pat Frarmouth one point six four million dollars.

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Speaker 3: It's the beauty of drafting. Well, yeah, you know, like

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Speaker 3: if this, if this draft class hits, you're going to

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Speaker 3: have a couple of those that are real bargains.

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Speaker 2: Kean O'Neil the other side of that strong safety tandem,

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Speaker 2: it's a Plant Manning that's one point five to four million.

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Speaker 3: That's point six seven in such a small amount.

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Speaker 2: He's making the same amount basically against the cap as

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Speaker 3: Okay, who's on the second your cogure obviously right, we.

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Speaker 2: Don't need to go much farther.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when they're this cheap, they're almost all yes, is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Damn Moore costs them one point one one

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Speaker 3: That's gold. Yeah, I mean even if he's your six guy,

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Speaker 3: And what's nice is there isn't Alan Robinson with the Rams, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, like where he's making a twelve million dollars man,

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Speaker 3: Believe he signed that deal. Yeah, and you're just having

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Speaker 2: Even so, let's take a look at Kim Haywards Cam

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't have a problem with that.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with that at all. No.

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Speaker 3: I mean I haven't seen no signs of his play declining. No,

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Speaker 2: He's been missed. There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 3: And there's certainly more to the table he brings than

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Speaker 2: The same thing with Deontay Johnson. Sixteen point three million

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Speaker 2: for Deontay Johnson's seven percent of your salary cap for

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Speaker 2: their number one receiver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, like Jacoby Myers is having a really

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Speaker 3: I didn't think he would for the Raiders, and he

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Speaker 3: I think he's getting like eighteen or nineteen.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's that high. I thought he was

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think you know what, you're right, because he

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Speaker 3: So I would rather Deontay than him, but I didn't

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Speaker 3: Well what's his worth?

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Speaker 2: He's like twenty five million? Pretty good, really hasn't if

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Speaker 2: you look at the numbers. Now, I mean, he killed

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Speaker 3: Receiver, and there's a lot of receivers in the league.

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Speaker 3: They're twenty plus.

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Speaker 2: you also have rero planning, you also have money. Renfro

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they signed him around the same.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Johnson's maybe a million dollars a year more,

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Speaker 2: but that's.

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Speaker 3: The same neighborhood. Yeah, and that's that was a bad deal.

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Speaker 3: That's why they can't trade him. Yeah, I mean he's

441
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Speaker 3: a little bit overrated and is way inflated. Contract wise,

442
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Speaker 3: He's not overrated rent for money rent from But no

443
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Speaker 3: that the contracts a very good one.

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Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I mean, I you know, I just look

445
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Speaker 2: at this, so you have to look at everything through

446
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Speaker 2: that prism. I know, people, well, he's not he's not

447
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Speaker 2: worth this. That guy's not worth that.

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Speaker 3: You don't if you, I mean, if you study the

449
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Speaker 3: market and you want to come talk about that, we can,

450
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Speaker 3: but study the market first. Please don't just say he

451
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Speaker 3: stinks he's not worth that money. Like I'm sure there's

452
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Speaker 3: people going, how on earth could they have paid Jukes

453
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Speaker 3: that much?

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Speaker 2: Think about when you did it. When you did, who

455
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Speaker 2: was your right tackle going to be?

456
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Speaker 3: And decisions shouldn't be made that Well, if we don't

457
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Speaker 3: pay him, we're never gonna get anybody else, you know,

458
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Speaker 3: like the Daniel Jones decision. Well, if we don't pay him,

459
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Speaker 3: we're never going to have a quarterback. Yeah you will.

460
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Speaker 3: You'll find someone eventually. But the going rate for Chukes

461
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Speaker 3: on the open market would have been every bit that.

462
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Speaker 3: I mean, if he was a free agent.

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Speaker 2: You'd be paying somebody who is probably a much a

464
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Speaker 2: lesser player than Chukes a corps for.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't have given Orlando Brown.

466
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Speaker 2: Yeah, about six or seven million dollars against.

467
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Speaker 3: Your kid than wanting to replace them. Yeah, yeah, I

468
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Speaker 3: mean that's the kind of deal that would be. I mean,

469
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Speaker 3: tackles are brutal.

470
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Speaker 2: Really, they really are. That's why you do have to

471
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Speaker 2: draft them, and you do have to develop them. And

472
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Speaker 2: when I say develop them, that means you have to

473
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Speaker 2: be patient with that development. That's the other side. So

474
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Speaker 2: everybody's on the why why would they possibly start Dan

475
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Speaker 2: Moore this week instead of Broderick Jones. First of all,

476
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Speaker 2: that decision hasn't been made yet. Secondly, however, maybe you

477
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Speaker 2: just don't want Aaron Donald lining up opposite Broderick Jones

478
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Speaker 2: about fifteen times on Sunday and you know, saying Okay,

479
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Speaker 2: here you go, kid, No, I get it, take on

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Speaker 2: this guy one on one.

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Speaker 3: I mean, my vote, and I'm not in the meeting rooms,

482
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Speaker 3: would be to go to Jones, just like with Porter.

483
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think they've shown enough and I've seen

484
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Speaker 3: enough of the incumbent that that would be my decision. Now,

485
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Speaker 3: if he doesn't know his assignments or that's the part.

486
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Speaker 2: Of this that nobody else is pretty right.

487
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Speaker 3: Yeah, even if you're a practice every day, you don't

488
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Speaker 3: know that probably, you know. I mean, that's the thing is,

489
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Speaker 3: there's more to it than who's the most talented guy.

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Speaker 3: I understand that.

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Speaker 2: But it's all about figuring out who who's who gives

492
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Speaker 2: you the best chance to win this particular week.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think you can look at it like

494
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Speaker 3: I'm fine looking at it through the prism of boy,

495
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Speaker 3: they just got a murder's row of edge guys to

496
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Speaker 3: start the season, like a rare you know, Garrick, you know, Babe, Ruth,

497
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Speaker 3: et cetera coming right at you. But at this point,

498
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Speaker 3: I don't think he can be like man that they

499
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Speaker 3: got a really good defensive lineman because there's not gonna

500
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Speaker 3: be many layups that.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I get that, But there's also no purpose

502
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Speaker 2: to announcing it.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, there's definitely you know, give Sean McVay.

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Speaker 2: Well, hey, hey, Tuesday, Mike Tomlin announced that Joey Porter

505
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Speaker 2: Junior and Broderick Jones are going to start. Therefore, let's, uh,

506
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Speaker 2: let's drop a game plan that we can run at

507
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Speaker 2: these guys all the entire game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you don't have to rent the Goodyear

509
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Speaker 3: blimp and you know, sail it over La. You know,

510
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Speaker 3: there's no reason to tell anybody.

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Speaker 2: Right, and a Monday practice is just that, a Monday practice.

512
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Speaker 2: It was an extra practice Yesterdaybody freaks out with Damn

513
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Speaker 2: More is at left tackle. That doesn't it doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: he's going to be the starting left tackle in this game.

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Speaker 3: And what I gathered of it, someone asked him, hey,

516
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Speaker 3: how you feel and he said good, you know, running

517
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Speaker 3: running with the ones and happy like that.

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Speaker 2: Well he was asked if he was running with how

519
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Speaker 2: the question was fray or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But okay, that's doesn't mean he's the left tackle from

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Speaker 3: now until eternity.

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Speaker 2: Now, it's just not there is. Mike Tomlins said that

523
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Speaker 2: that's still to be determined.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so he said that today, Yeah, gotcha.

525
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Speaker 2: So they'll figure it out. I'm sure that's why they

526
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Speaker 2: get the money. If they get paid. The coaching staff,

527
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Speaker 2: you know, they don't do this. Well, what can we

528
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Speaker 2: really do to tick off the fans this week? They're

529
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Speaker 2: trying to win the games. That's the idea here, try

530
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Speaker 2: to win the games. What do you need to do

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Speaker 2: this week to win the game.

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Speaker 3: And I don't have a problem with Dan More, especially

533
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Speaker 3: like for this exercise. The money he's making. He's one

534
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Speaker 3: of the bargains out there. I mean, because he's a

535
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Speaker 3: gasle that can start really at two spots. I would

536
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Speaker 3: imagine if with a little more seasoning at right back,

537
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Speaker 3: we'll probably start four, probably four. I hesitated to say guard.

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Speaker 3: I think he could be the best at guard, but

539
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Speaker 3: they have two guards and I haven't seen it, so

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Speaker 3: I don't know. But I mean, I think he's in

541
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Speaker 3: the last league as long as his body holds up

542
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Speaker 3: and play a lot of snaps here elsewhere for the

543
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Speaker 3: next six eight years.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I agree, we're gonna get to a break. He

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Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back

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Speaker 2: with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt.

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Speaker 2: Just a little over an hour ago, the Rams signed

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Speaker 2: running back Royce Freeman from their practice squad to their

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Speaker 2: active roster, and then signed their former running back Darryl

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Speaker 2: Henderson to their practice squad.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize he was unemployed. Yeah, yeah, he's another

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Speaker 3: one of the guys.

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Speaker 2: He just runs a thousand miles an hour into the

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Speaker 2: line and yeah.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't last. And he is fast and yeah, not

568
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Speaker 3: real big either. So I know where you're going with this.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're down two backs. Yeah, then from where

570
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Speaker 3: where they're we're supposed to be.

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Speaker 2: You don't make these signings unless you really think that

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Speaker 2: you're not going to have the other guys available.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and Kyrain Williams has impressed me, like coming on

574
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Speaker 3: a Notre Dame. I looked at he didn't test very well.

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Speaker 3: He was a team captain. Everyone adored him. You know,

576
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Speaker 3: camp comes in, does all the dirty work, special teams,

577
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Speaker 3: all those type of things. Love them. But I always

578
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Speaker 3: thought of them as like a third back, maybe a

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Speaker 3: second back, and he's played really well for them this

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Speaker 3: year and clearly their best back and gets a very

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Speaker 3: high snap share, you know, doesn't rotate in with other

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Speaker 3: dudes all year. So he's a bigger loss than you

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Speaker 3: would think for them. I think he's got like three

584
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Speaker 3: hundred more rushing yards than anybody else on the team already,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean it's a big discrepancy. And then

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Speaker 3: the other dude that got hurt his name again, Rivers.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know much about obviously, but he's played very

588
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Speaker 3: little and got hurt in that last game too.

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Speaker 2: But he's the guy that's been active.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I assume he plays teams. I'm just guessing

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Speaker 3: on that. But Zach Evans is going to be the

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Speaker 3: start of this week. It sounds I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: is that safe to say? I mean yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean so, I mean they could start Freeman.

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Speaker 3: I would say, there's other guys that have been around

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Speaker 3: the block. They don't they're not known as special team

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Speaker 3: or three.

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Speaker 2: The problems is like Freeman's been around the block, like

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Speaker 2: he's never never been a guy.

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Speaker 3: No no, and he's been beat up to and same

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Speaker 3: with Henderson. They're both pretty unreliable. But Evans is interesting.

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Speaker 3: Evans was a highly highly recruited kid that got in

603
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Speaker 3: a little bit of trouble in college, transferred, tested really well,

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Speaker 3: had some spurts of really impressive play in college. In

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Speaker 3: particular in the whole draft process, I thought he'd get

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Speaker 3: drafted higher than he was end up going to sixth

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Speaker 3: round from what I remember, And we'll see. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I assume they don't trust them. And usually when rookie

609
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Speaker 3: running backs don't see the field, they're not special teamers.

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Speaker 3: They don't trust them in protection. Do they trust their

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Speaker 3: ball security? I'm sure there's all those things are questions

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Speaker 3: with this guy.

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Speaker 2: So Karen Williams has played eighty two percent of their

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Speaker 2: offensive snap.

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Speaker 3: Which is a massive number. Hum, that's a rookie nausea

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Speaker 3: year type.

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Speaker 2: And that was Cam Akers, who they've traded since since

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Speaker 2: traded was it twenty eight snaps? Yeah, they traded him

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Speaker 2: after the first two weeks. Yeah. Rivers has forty snaps overall,

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Speaker 2: that's nine point seven or three. And then Zach Evans

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Speaker 2: has played six snaps. Yeah, six snaps. That's the guy

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Speaker 2: they're going to start to see. Dude, yeah, and he's

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Speaker 2: played nine special team snaps. If at least Rivers, it

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Speaker 2: looks like was a core special team guy for them.

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Speaker 3: I wonder my hunch is, just knowing Evans' profile, he

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Speaker 3: might be a McFarlane kick returner only special teamer, you

627
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Speaker 3: know what I mean. I don't know he's running down

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Speaker 3: on punt team and stuff. Yeah, so I mean he

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Speaker 3: has six offensive snaps under his belt. He's gonna be

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Speaker 3: the starting running.

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Speaker 2: Backy potentially, because as we saw last week with with

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Speaker 2: with the situation with Arizona, everybody just assumed that what's

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Speaker 2: his face was.

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Speaker 3: Gonna yeah, the dude with a long name. He didn't

635
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Speaker 3: barely because any rom wasn't active.

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Speaker 2: He was like the third down back and then they

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Speaker 2: brought some other guys in the carryball. So it wouldn't

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Speaker 2: surprise me if Royce Freeman is the guy.

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Speaker 3: Wow in this game. And again, just like we were

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Speaker 3: talking about in the last segment, Sean McVay doesn't have

641
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Speaker 3: to rent a blimp and send it an announced yeah

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Speaker 3: over the South Side for the whole world to see either.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know that matters all that much, but

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Speaker 3: certainly Evans is gonna play, whether he's the guy and

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Speaker 3: is an eighty two percent snapshare guy. I'm sure he

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Speaker 3: won't be, but you want it to see what he

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Speaker 3: can do in protection, that's for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean Royce Freeman is, he has appeared in sixty

649
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Speaker 2: eight career NFL games. He has three hundred and ninety

650
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Speaker 2: four career carries for one and seventy three yard As

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Speaker 2: you are three point seven yards per carry.

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Speaker 3: Average the bigger guys like two twenty.

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Speaker 2: This running game isn't going to hurt you this week.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you're in the I mean, if you are

655
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Speaker 3: the captain of the running backs, don't matter ship. You

656
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: might disagree, just because the only reason I'm fighting on

657
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: that is McVeigh scheme sings up so well that it

658
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: hasn't mattered in his career who the running back is.

659
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: They've always run the ball well. When he has Girley,

660
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: they run the ball best in the league, You know

661
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: what I mean. I mean that's the difference.

662
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: Between let me just say that, so Royce Freeman. I

663
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 2: don't think Freman's since the twenty twenty one season has

664
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: not averaged more than three yards per carry, and it's

665
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: been two point six two point nine.

666
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And even at his best day, I always

667
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: thought of him as kind of a jack of all trades,

668
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: master of none. Like he was pretty good receiver, pretty

669
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: good blocker, a little bit of loosive kind of expl

670
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: This is like, so.

671
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: When I when I say that the running game isn't

672
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: going to hurt you, I'm talking the running game isn't

673
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: going to consistently churn out yardage against you.

674
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: Well, they not.

675
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: Well, the Rams maybe have a fifteen yard run in

676
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: this game potentially, And if that happens, it's largely because

677
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: I think the Steelers will be playing the pass.

678
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: More than again. They're gonna be an eleven personnel the

679
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 3: whole time.

680
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let them right eight, go ahead, try to

681
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: run the ball. These guys, we'll make the tackle. You're

682
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: not gonna you know, you don't have game breakers out there.

683
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: That the backs won't get a lot of yardage on

684
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: their own. If it's schemed up, maybe they do get

685
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 3: four or five yards to carry against lighter boxes and

686
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: you have to adjust. I mean, I assume that's what

687
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: McVeigh is gonna shoot for. If you're gonna play with

688
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: a lot of lighter personnel, if you're living in dime,

689
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: which I'm sure the Steelers will play a lot of

690
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: dime in this game. They're gonna but you're gonna have

691
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: to stop it with smaller personnel.

692
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, just so Zach evans five to eleven, two hundred

693
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: and two pounds, So he is a smaller, smaller guy

694
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: type back.

695
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 3: Some of his highlights are impressive, but he's very inconsistent. Yeah.

696
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: Just the college. I'm looking here at the Lancier lines.

697
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: Testing on there too. I think he tested well from

698
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 3: what I remember.

699
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't look like it's on here. Must I'm not

700
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: seeing all the testing, so it is what But his

701
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: his compo one him was Melvin Gordon. He averaged six

702
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: point nine years per carrying college. But that was at Georgia.

703
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: Well did he start at Georgia and end up in

704
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 2: Mississippi and he finished at Mississippi?

705
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I think he was super highly recruited, went

706
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: to Georgia and then Mississippi.

707
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, his first season at TCU.

708
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: Okay, And he didn't go to Georgia.

709
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: I think he went to TCU and TCU and then

710
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: all miss Yeah. So I mean we've seen tc I

711
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: know what TCU's offense is it's just spread them all

712
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: out and you know, oh yeah yeah, yeah, hand off

713
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: draws to the running back like that helps your career average,

714
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: Like oh sure, I mean yards for carrying the call

715
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: doesn't mean anything, mean much, right, it doesn't anything. I just.

716
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: I kind of like them coming out of school. Thought

717
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: it'd be a fourth or fifth rounder. I also think

718
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: there was some the transfer was more on how to

719
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: say this, but they didn't mind him leaving. Yeah. Uh.

720
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: One thing here of note that Lance has is fumble

721
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: rate is concerning.

722
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. That was definitely a negative

723
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: on him. I think he had some injury red flags

724
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: too coming out of college.

725
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. So he's fast, but he'll fumble.

726
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: So you want to challenge him every way possibly can.

727
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: I mean, this is really he's played six offensive steps.

728
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: I mean, and we're way through locked over, and the

729
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: guys ahead of him weren't superstars, right right.

730
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: I mean they're reaching here, searching for guys here and

731
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: it's not so again, I want to dare them to

732
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,239
Speaker 2: run the football. I think every time that they do

733
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: try to run the football is a win for your defense.

734
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to get to the

735
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: extreme where you're letting him get five six yards. Yeah, yeah,

736
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: I mean, but I think this is a guy that

737
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: your situation is dangerous.

738
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: I think this is a guy when you talk about

739
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: tackles for losses, especially with their offensive line play. Yeah,

740
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: he may have a couple carries where he gets some yardage.

741
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but if you could, you.

742
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: Know, every time you get him for a run of

743
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: one or negative one or anything, that's a huge win

744
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: for you.

745
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: Greed. Now, I don't know if I want to blitz

746
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: this team or not, because Stafford's been around the block

747
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: and has handled it well, and you don't want to

748
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: allow a big play in this game. I would think

749
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: you'd much rather they matriculated the ball down the field

750
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: with the run game. But if I can get him

751
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: in any kind of protection, like I'm thinking of Landon

752
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: Roberts or Alexander On blitz his I think he's unlikely

753
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: to be up for the challenge and protection.

754
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what I want him trying to

755
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: block somebody out. Yeah, that's the thing I can't get

756
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: past here, Like they're gonna use him as the chipper

757
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: on TJ. Watt.

758
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: See, that's what I'm thinking, because the more I've studied

759
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 3: the rams a lot in the last twenty four hours,

760
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: and since we almost have to look at him with

761
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: Cup and without so without Cup it was Puka like unbelievable.

762
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: I mean, remember twenty twenty targets a game was craziness.

763
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: But since Cup's been back, these are off the top

764
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: of my head. Puka and Cup over two games have

765
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: combined for like seventy percent of their targets. But what's

766
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: interesting is they still live in eleven personnel. So at

767
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: Well is still running. He's not blocking anyone anyways. He

768
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: speaks my right leg anyways. I mean, he's not going

769
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: to be a blocker. And Higbee is running routes at

770
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: a very very high percentage of the time. He hasn't

771
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 3: been targeted in the last two weeks because they all

772
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: go to Puka and cup Well. Where I'm going with

773
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 3: this is only what leaves one good blocker. If they

774
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 3: keep that strategy up and they're gonna throw those four

775
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: eligibles out, Evans is going to be your six blocker,

776
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: and that would worry the heck out of me. I mean,

777
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: that's one thing about Williams. He's not big and he

778
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: I know, like pro football focus will tell you he's

779
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 3: not a great protector, but the people Notre Dame thought

780
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 3: he was like the best protector ever. And you know,

781
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 3: like that coming out at least willing and has done it.

782
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: He sticks his face in all the time. Evans, well, not.

783
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: The Steelers are blitzing at a thirty six percent rate

784
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: this year, which is actually top ten in the league.

785
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: It's not like, you know, it's not blitzers. Not just

786
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: the Vikings are blitzing fifty seven twenty percent.

787
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 3: Hired anybody else or something crazy.

788
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 2: I've never seen one that.

789
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: Huh, it's crazy.

790
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: He's blitzing on every play. Brian Floris is just going, okay,

791
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: we can't cover anybody.

792
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 3: Exactly what he says, go get the quarterback. I don't

793
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: really have good players, so we're just going to create

794
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 3: chaos good, bad, or ugly. It's exactly what he's doing.

795
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 3: It's almost comical.

796
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 2: The Patriots are second of forty three point four percent. Okay,

797
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: they're kind I think they're kind of saying the same thing,

798
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: like we're a mess rate and we get to create

799
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: big place.

800
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 3: Even when they were right though they trusted Gonzalez and

801
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: those they liked their corners when healthy and them and

802
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 3: their corners are not, they're not getting a pass rush.

803
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 3: So it's kind of both the bad worlds. Real QUI.

804
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: I want to talk about Evans real quick though, because

805
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: I think this is the case with him, but it's

806
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: almost always the case with a four or five star recruit.

807
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: No one ever asked him to block.

808
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: Right, you know what, anytime, even if you look at

809
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: he's the six snaps he's been on the field, I

810
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: think he has three carries for six yards, So when

811
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: he's been on the field, he's carried football.

812
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 3: And even at the college level, he was a big

813
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: get for TCU or Mississippi. I mean he could go

814
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: to Bama and they want him touching the ball. He

815
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: was a big fish in a little bond. He's not blocking,

816
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 3: so he has very little history of.

817
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: Like Anthony McFarland. Anthony McFarland, people don't know this. He

818
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: was like a top three running back recruit when he went.

819
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: To Him and JK. Dobbins were the top one in

820
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: the class. Yeah. I mean, you know, people forget these things.

821
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: That's a seventeen year old.

822
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so, uh yeah, I want to make him

823
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: blocks as often as possible. Yes, if they want to

824
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: try to send Higbee out, I want to make them

825
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: play left handed.

826
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: So I wonder if the things that they're not used

827
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 3: to having to do, you know, back to your original conversation,

828
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 3: I bet I know Freeman's got to be a better protector.

829
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: I mean, he's been around the block. Whether he can

830
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: get any chunk yardage like Evan, to me, if he

831
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: gets in the open field, is much more dangerous Yeman.

832
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: I mean, he's an explosive young leg guy. At least

833
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: Freeman knows who to pick up, you know, I mean

834
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 3: he's done it. He's played more than six snaps.

835
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: I wonder if they bring Henderson up for this game, do.

836
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 3: You think one of the Yeah, maybe maybe.

837
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: Because at least I mean, he's.

838
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 3: None of them have a special teams background. No, they

839
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 3: may not care.

840
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 2: Well, Freeman actually has played some special teams for them

841
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: this year. But it would surprise me if like Henderson's

842
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 2: a game day call up and.

843
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 3: Because he's familiar, you have to have more than two.

844
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: You have to more too, But you know, especially when

845
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 3: you're one is a six snap rookie. Yeah, it might

846
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: just be.

847
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: That no offense, It's not like it's going to be

848
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 2: you know.

849
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: Maybe it just you know, vic Vay, this kind of

850
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 3: yields to the running back coach, who do you trust?

851
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: You know as we get in because I can't. I

852
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: won't learn these things during the practice week. I don't

853
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: want to.

854
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to learn them on Sunday.

855
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 3: Well, you're gonna, you know, like, can we trust the

856
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: kid or not? I don't know yet. How can I

857
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: astilly answer that? Sean, I'm not. We've never given him

858
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: a chance.

859
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: But you don't want to learn at the expense of

860
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 2: getting to Stafford broken into.

861
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's at least have Royce and Henderson.

862
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: I think I think turnover is gonna be huge in

863
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: this one.

864
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too, because Stafford will throat the other team.

865
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: You got a young running back who will put them

866
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 2: all on the ground.

867
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

868
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: I want to hit Stafford. I don't. I don't know

869
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: what Stafford's in terms of his ball security. I don't

870
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: know when he gets don't you know, I don't think

871
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 2: he's Dak Prescott.

872
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,959
Speaker 3: But they haven't allowed a ton of pressure this year.

873
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: I mean it's I think they're like middle of the

874
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: road with sacks allowed, pressures allowed, that type of stuff.

875
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 3: And a lot of that's quarterbacks. Stat he knows where

876
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: he's smart.

877
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I understand yet.

878
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 3: But he will stand in there.

879
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: He will stand in there and take hits. And if

880
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: you're going to do that, well.

881
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: We even talked about some Steeler tendencies for he is.

882
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: He hasn't fumbled this year, but he had five last year,

883
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: five the year before. Earlier in his career. This is

884
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 2: what I thought. I said he was a wild He

885
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: had a couple of years with twelve.

886
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.

887
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 2: Like one of those led the league with twelve twelve fumbles.

888
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: That was back in twenty thirteen lion years. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

889
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: when he was just getting he was constantly under siege.

890
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: Oh he got beat up bad early in his career.

891
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: So interesting make him remember that. Yeah. No, I don't

892
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: know the numbers, but he is noticeably worse when pressured

893
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: as opposed to not, and I think they can get

894
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 3: pressure on him.

895
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: I might add those those five fumbles last year were

896
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: just in nine games, Okay, so he's probably Yeah, that's

897
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: no worse. Probably a little doe for one here.

898
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense having no sex.

899
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: Or no fumbles through six games this.

900
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 3: Year, so we haven't talked a lot of Steeler tendencies

901
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: in over a week. But teams are attacking the Steelers

902
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: deep downfield. Yeah, Like, I don't know that that's the

903
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: Rams game. I think it's more scheme up cup in

904
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: the kua and get it out and don't ask your

905
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: line to go long, you know. Like, I bet that

906
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: his time to throw isn't super high or super short.

907
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: But I don't I think they're gonna won him holding

908
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 3: the ball in the pocket for long developing route.

909
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either. Yeah, anyway, let's get

910
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Speaker 2: through a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolli.

911
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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

912
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Speaker 2: We'll be back with more right after this. He's the

913
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Speaker 2: Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on your twenty

914
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915
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918
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919
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921
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923
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924
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Speaker 3: And they'll be the best giveaway yet.

925
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Speaker 2: That's a that's an awesome one.

926
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

927
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to give you the question yet because

928
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 2: the questions don't start until tomorrow.

929
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: But get them Steeler tomorrow.

930
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, get the Steelers Mobile app and start answering these

931
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: questions and uh, you have a chance to win a

932
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933
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Speaker 2: the Steelers Packers game.

934
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Speaker 3: That bet people, we're hitting that hard. That's kind of

935
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: a big stuff. Nice.

936
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Uh. Speaking of hitting it hard, the Eagles

937
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: have been hitting the waiver wire heart.

938
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. They're not in a good spot today.

939
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: They went out and signed Julio Jones today. Uh, which

940
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: was the ghost of Julio Jones.

941
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 3: I mean he couldn't run the last two stops.

942
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: He's replacing Quez Watkins, who's hurt. What's going to ir?

943
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: That's very different players that is not apples now that's

944
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: pineapples to you know something else. Yeah, and Watkins is

945
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 3: your speed guy over the top, and you know Julio

946
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: can't run it all anymore. I don't know what the

947
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: allure is there, but who knows.

948
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got that going on. I also wanted

949
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: to make a note that two quarterbacks from teams the

950
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: Steelers have upcoming here on the schedule after this game

951
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 2: against the Rams. Tanney Hill, who they play in three weeks,

952
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: is dealing with the high ankle spring. Trevor Lawrence, who

953
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: they play in two weeks, he was limited in practice.

954
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 2: Say where he's wearing a knee brace. Yeah, they played,

955
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: they played Thursday night. It sounds like that's a true

956
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty. Yeah, you know, he got hurt the

957
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: end of that game. Not to mention now I think

958
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: about Richardson could be out for the year. It looks

959
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: like he's out for the year. At least that's what

960
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: their owners saying.

961
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: I forget when they play the Titans, is that sooner

962
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 3: or later?

963
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: That's that's in three weeks?

964
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 3: Three weeks? Yeah, so Tannehills could be out. It's infy

965
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: for that one. Yeah, Like I hate to say this,

966
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: he had the.

967
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: High ankle sprain last year and he missed. He was

968
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 2: I think he was back by the third game, but

969
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: then he was quickly back out of there and they

970
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: needed surgery. So I wonder if they take they now

971
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: also have two young quarterbacksops right that maybe they take

972
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: a long look at this. They're two and four right now.

973
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: I know it's not a Rabel thing, nor would it

974
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: be a Steeler thing, but the smart move for the

975
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: Titans is play the young guys. Yeah, pick one or

976
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 3: give him both a chance for rest of the year.

977
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 3: Whatever it is. Willis looks better than he did last year.

978
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 3: But still, I mean last year here was a year

979
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: away from being a year away, and now he's a

980
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 3: year away. But he's ahead of Levis, which I guess

981
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 3: you could take two ways.

982
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: Is that just preseason exactly?

983
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: Exactly? Like who do you trust if Tannehill gets hurt

984
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: in games?

985
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: I think Levis missed a bunch of time in the

986
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: preseason and they set him behind their problem. Now, however,

987
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 2: is this the trade deadlines? At the end of this month,

988
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 2: they was talking, well, maybe somebody will trade for Ryan Tannehill.

989
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 2: You can't tradeing for him when he's hurt.

990
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 3: No, I mean Atlanta is the obvious potential one there,

991
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: maybe even the Jets, But that's kind of where it's

992
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 3: going with this. If I'm the Titans, tanks the wrong word,

993
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: but build for the future is the right word, you know,

994
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: Like Hey Baltimore, Hey k C, do you want there? Henry?

995
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 3: You know, how about Tannehill on his big.

996
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: I could afford him that these guys are making a

997
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: ton of money.

998
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Tannehill's up after the year, but he's making

999
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 3: a lot per month or per week right now. Yeah,

1000
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 3: and so is Henry. Yeah.

1001
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: I mean you'd have to almost do a contract restructure

1002
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: with them to to get that to happen. But again,

1003
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: you're you're not trading Tannehill when he's hurt. Yeah, But

1004
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: you know, I just look at this through it through

1005
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: a Steelers line. Like if Trevor Lawrence, even if he

1006
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: does play against the Steelers in two weeks, if he's

1007
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 2: if he's got a knee.

1008
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 3: Issue, it's going to linger for a while.

1009
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: He's not going to run around a bunch, which is

1010
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: one of the things that makes him more dangerous.

1011
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like people might not think of him in this

1012
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: light because he's six six, but he moves very very

1013
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: well and is a really smooth good runner. I mean

1014
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 3: kind of like how Herbert beat up on the Steelers

1015
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 3: last year. You know, you give him that big lane,

1016
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: he's gonna get ten slide hurt you.

1017
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: You know, speaking of justin Herbert, I'm about done with you, Herbert.

1018
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 2: In terms of being a star quarterback, he looks the part.

1019
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for I don't know, fifty eight minutes of

1020
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: a game, he is the part. And then when it

1021
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: comes down the crunch time, he's a charger and he

1022
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: chargers it up.

1023
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: Isn't it amazing? Like in our lifetime they've had three

1024
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: and maybe even include Breeze, who wasn't Breeze yet? And

1025
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: I think Herbert, there are top five ish quarterbacks and

1026
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: nothing to show for it. You know, Foults was amazing,

1027
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: Rivers was unbelievable. I mean, I'm a.

1028
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: Big h it's fantasy football numbers. That's what they put up.

1029
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: They put up fantasy numbers. They don't win games.

1030
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they tried to run the ball, couldn't

1031
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: you know. I mean they're two and three with that roster.

1032
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's inexcusable and much like we talked about yesterday

1033
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: on the show where veteran coaches take the points when

1034
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: they can get the points, especially.

1035
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 3: A game like that that was a grinded out, every

1036
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: point matters game.

1037
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: You're down ten to seven in the third quarter and

1038
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: they pass on a field goal that would have tied it.

1039
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: You know what the first half of the game was like,

1040
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: it was ten to seventh. I say, like, you might

1041
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: have came into that game thinking it's gonna be a shootout.

1042
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: It's gonna a shootout. But then read the room, right,

1043
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: you know, like, boy, points are hard to come by.

1044
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: They're not moving the ball effectively against us, We're not

1045
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: moving effectively against them. But he goes for it on

1046
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: fourth and one and get stuffed and they pass on

1047
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: a field.

1048
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 3: Goal right exactly, and they lose by three.

1049
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: And they lost by three. That's that's how coaches get fired.

1050
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 3: And folks to pull back the curtain. This is not

1051
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: Monday morning quarterbacking by Dale, because as it happened, I

1052
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: get a text from Dale Lawy saying they're going to

1053
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 3: regret that decision before they even didn't get the fourth. Yeah,

1054
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 3: like you should have kicked the field goal kick. Then again, in.

1055
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 2: Today's NFL we'll talk about this in the next hour,

1056
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 2: and we talked about the bunch yesterday and today's NFL.

1057
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: When you have a chance for points, take the points

1058
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 2: because that's the way the league is going right now.

1059
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm really leaning that way too. And by

1060
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 3: today's NFL people probably mean high flying they I mean,

1061
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: that's that's not what the league is right is It's

1062
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: really hard to move the football right now.

1063
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, we're gonna get to another break. He is

1064
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallie. You're listening to the

1065
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. When we come back

1066
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: his time for the Fantasy Football Focus, take a look

1067
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: around at who the hot waiver wire pickups are this week,

1068
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: take a look at those streaming defenses as well, and

1069
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: get an early look at this week's schedule. Right after

1070
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: the six by weeks