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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up, Drake Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 1: Straight Fire for.

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Speaker 2: Monday, September thirtieth, the final day of September before the

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Speaker 2: calendar officially turns to fall in October. Had a pretty

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Speaker 2: damn good Sunday, folks. We're running hot, things are going

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Speaker 2: really well. Little unlucky with the blasted Atlanta Falcons. You

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Speaker 2: could see that non cover victory coming a mile away.

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Speaker 2: Lost out by half a point in the contest three

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Speaker 2: and two Arizona. It was a bad read three to two.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people did okay, but looks like I'll

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Speaker 2: still be in the top three hundred year once Monday

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Speaker 2: Night Football is complete. Overall, just it was my best

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Speaker 2: Sunday of the season. I'm telling you, listen, this whole

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Speaker 2: did not cover, Verus did cover, and the line movement

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Speaker 2: like it has been incredible back to back weeks. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: the entire Sunday was marred by my New York Jets

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Speaker 2: and inexplicable loss to the Broncos. We'll get to that.

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs another big injury. They're like the forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers, they're walking wounded just two notes. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: a handful of our NBA diehard fans. It could be like, yo,

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Speaker 2: J Mack, New York Knicks get Cat. We've been talking

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Speaker 2: about this for months, Yeah we have. We're not doing

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Speaker 2: that today. Probably during the week we'll hammer it out

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Speaker 2: still haven't. I mean, I saw the news obviously would

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Speaker 2: have happened, I guess Friday or Saturday after I already forgot,

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Speaker 2: And I'm sorry I didn't even follow up because college

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Speaker 2: football Saturday, Oh my gosh, that Georgia Alabama game, Holy cow,

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Speaker 2: college football picks did not go great. The Georgia Alabama

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Speaker 2: game was just unbelievable, like just the theater, Jalen Milrode,

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Speaker 2: just an awesome, awesome game in the fourth quarters specifically.

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Speaker 2: But unfortunately we came to a lot of that because

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Speaker 2: the NFL was so wild on Sunday, and I got

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Speaker 2: to start with the Jets, and I tell you, guys,

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Speaker 2: I don't like to bet on the Jets because if

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Speaker 2: they don't cover and they lose, it's like a double

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Speaker 2: whimmy and it just kind of puts me in a funk. Fortunately,

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Speaker 2: the early games were going well and the Jets were

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Speaker 2: being played in like a driving rainstorm, Jets Broncos. So

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Speaker 2: I wasn't like two pissed off and they had chances, no,

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Speaker 2: no doubt about it. But when Denver's held to one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty six yards of total offense, and I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at the box score here, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you guys really can fully comprehend this. Bo Nicks completed

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Speaker 2: twelve passes for sixty yards. That's it for the game. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he had negative seven yards at halftime, But this is

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Speaker 2: what's crazy. Twelve completions for sixty yards. Cortland Sutton had

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Speaker 2: three catches for sixty yards. I mean what, I've never

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Speaker 2: heard of this before. You look up and down and

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Speaker 2: someone named Michael Burton one catch for three But like

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Speaker 2: the Broncos had no offense at all. They had one

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Speaker 2: drive that resulted in a touchdown and the Jets, and

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Speaker 2: this is where it gets a little dicey for the Jets.

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Speaker 2: So Bridge Hall had the worst game, arguably of his career.

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Speaker 2: The outside of the game where he got hurt against Denver.

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Speaker 2: Ten carries for four yards. I counted one drop. There

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Speaker 2: Jets offense was anemic. And then here's where it got ugly.

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Speaker 2: So if you look at the penalties, the Jets thirteen

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Speaker 2: That is largely reflective of the offense. And afterwards Sala

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Speaker 2: decided to take a couple jabs at the Jets offense. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and guys, false starts and all this stuff. And then

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Speaker 2: He's tigned, kind of refutes it. Oh no, we don't

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Speaker 2: really have to change anything. It was just an outlier game.

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Speaker 2: And folks, it's almost like they don't like each other.

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Speaker 2: This dates back to the offseason where Rogers was going

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Speaker 2: not pretty. The Jets should be three and one heading

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Speaker 2: It got ugly. There was like a cold war that

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Speaker 2: But I'm just telling you what I saw. Rob was

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Speaker 2: ugly Jets offense. Now again, minor excuse since it was

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Speaker 3: Tell you why, Jason, you are misinformed because I really

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Speaker 3: everything you said is true about the Sala Rogers dynamic,

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Speaker 3: and that's something that we've seen play out leave say,

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Speaker 3: going back to training camp. You can tell And this

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Speaker 3: ESPN by Fox Sports that Robert Salah was very vocal

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Speaker 3: The only reason why things went sideway. Is I didn't

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Speaker 3: would have been much different last year. So when Aaron

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Speaker 3: widely reported, there is no offensive coordinator. Nathaniel Hackett is

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Speaker 3: just the yes man. He's just the guy who hangs out.

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Speaker 3: He's me to you. Basically, you call the shots. I'm

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Speaker 3: just here in support role. And this is Jason McIntyre's podcast. Similarly,

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Speaker 3: this is Aaron Rodgers podcast. This is Aaron Rodgers offense.

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Speaker 3: Nathaniel Hackett, you show up, You co sign for the

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Speaker 3: Ten carries for four yards and say, you know what, Aaron,

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Speaker 2: Embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: So you have some penalties go your way, he has

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Speaker 2: So just to clear something up, I said thirteen penalties,

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Speaker 2: My third hot take. And occasionally when I get beat

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Speaker 2: four hundred and forty nine yards of offense, twenty nine

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Speaker 2: first downs, and Jaden Daniels looks to be a real

427
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Speaker 2: damn good quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Now.

429
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Speaker 2: I know it was against Arizona, and against Arizona everybody

430
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Speaker 2: dominates because they're one of the five defenses in the league.

431
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 2: But I'm just twenty six of thirty on the road

432
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Speaker 2: short week after the win against Cincinnati, where he was

433
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Speaker 2: twenty one of twenty three. Like I know, he threw

434
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: high ones on one play against Arizona was picked. But Folks,

435
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels looks like the real deal. This offense for

436
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 2: Washington is insane. I mean, ever since the opener, when

437
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: you know they weren't able to do much against I

438
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 2: think it was Minnesota. Yeah, let me check, but I'm

439
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 2: pretty sure it was Minnesota and was like maybe no, No.

440
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: Minnesota played the Giants in the opener. Washington opened against

441
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Speaker 2: Tampa and they could not stop Baker. They scored twenty

442
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,479
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels ran too much. Remember, they were like, well,

443
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: we need to die that back. So against the Giants,

444
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: he's winning more from the pocket. The last two weeks,

445
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 2: they've scored thirty eight and forty two points. Now the

446
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 2: Bengals and Cardinals defense is stink and this is the

447
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,239
Speaker 2: real test for Jayden Daniels. What's he gonna do at

448
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: home against the Jim Schwartz Browns defense this week. Browns

449
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 2: are fighting for their live. By the way, they lost

450
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 2: to the Raiders. They're now one and three. You showed

451
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: that Deshaun Watson issue with the offensive lineman apparently was

452
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 2: squashed afterward. It's fine Watson's looking frustrated, but this is

453
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 2: a massive game for the Browns. Using my theory did

454
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,959
Speaker 2: not cover versus did. I have already bet the Browns

455
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 2: not a huge one, but I just grabbed it. I

456
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: gotta see it from Jane Daniels. I can't believe that

457
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: on the same day we're bow knicks through for sixty yards.

458
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 2: That Jaden Daniels is now completing eighty two percent of

459
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: his passes this season and looks to be a real keeper.

460
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 2: McLaurin is eating. They were even missing Austin Eckler concussion.

461
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: Brian Robinson, no problem. Just feed Brian Robinson. He's a horse.

462
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: Luke McCaffrey catching passes. Some guy Jeremy Nichols, I don't

463
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 2: even know who that is. He had a great blitz

464
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: pick up against the Bengals when Eckler got the concussion.

465
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: Nichols came in at an awesome blitz pick up on

466
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Speaker 2: that Terry McLaurin touchdown. And now Jeremy Nichols or mcknicks,

467
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: whatever his name is, he's scoring. Cliff Kingsbury is in

468
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: his bag, and Jaden Daniels is totally cooking. I'm just

469
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: telling you, guys, if you watch Caleb Williams and you

470
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: watch Bo Nicks and then you watch Jaden Daniels, one

471
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 2: of those is not like the other two. I mean,

472
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels is looking like he I missed on him.

473
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: I thought Drake mag was way better. I was stunned

474
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Speaker 2: that Washington went Jaden Daniels too. Remember a lot of

475
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 2: his numbers were put up against crap teams, not even

476
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Speaker 2: the krem Dela creme of the SEC. He was beating

477
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: up on like Nickels State and Directional University, and it

478
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: was like, okay, stat padding, I get it. Let me

479
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: see you against the big boys. And he hasn't faced

480
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: a great defense yet. We know Tampa's not great Giants

481
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: have a good front. The Browns will be the real test.

482
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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'm not into crowning anybody. Everybody

483
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 2: wanted to say Josh Allen's the MVP after Monday Night Football, Like,

484
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: come on, let's just slow down on Travis Hunter being

485
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: the I Spin winner in Week four or whatever. But Rob,

486
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 2: I gotta say, Jayden and Daniels wildly impressive. I'm stunned.

487
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Speaker 3: Oh he looks like the real deal. And I got

488
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: to tell you, there were some people in the media

489
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 3: and in NFL circles that legitimately believed that Kayla Williams

490
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: is going to leave to the Bears in the Super

491
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: Bowl right now. I personally thought that was crazy, but

492
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Speaker 3: their rationale was He's the greatest prospect we've seen since

493
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Speaker 3: Peyton Manning and the Bears were seven to nine last season,

494
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 3: so he can have, you know, a CJ. Stroud type

495
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: season and get them to the super Bowl. Lest we

496
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 3: forget that, CJ. Stroud. The way we've learned, you know,

497
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 3: or we've believed over the last wherever your your lifespan is,

498
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 3: comes around once every twenty twenty five years, like that

499
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Speaker 3: does not happen, you know, c J. Stroud. Rookie seasons

500
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Speaker 3: are an anomaly. That's not the expectation when it comes

501
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Speaker 3: to rookie quarterbacks. Flash forward one season and it's happening again,

502
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: except it's not Caleb, it's Jayden and Daniels. You mentioned

503
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Speaker 3: eighty two percent. Number one in NFL history the first

504
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: four games. Add on to that number two through the

505
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 3: first four games EPA per attempt, number two success right,

506
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Speaker 3: number three, first downs per attempt, number five yards per attempt.

507
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 3: This is not like in the season. This is an

508
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Speaker 3: NFL history. His start is unprecedented. He is doing something

509
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 3: that even CJ. Stroud, as great as he was, did

510
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: not do last season. And say what you want about

511
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: the competition. I know people are saying the defenses he

512
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 3: plays it are not that great, and I agree with that.

513
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 3: But like I said before, maybe about a week and

514
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: a half ago and talking about Aaron Rodgers and the Patriots,

515
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: what separates good from great is being able to take

516
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: care of business when you have to. There's a lot

517
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Speaker 3: of great quarterbacks who are gonna face the Arizona Cardinals

518
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 3: defense and they are not going to have that kind

519
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: of success that Jane Daniels had. Matthew Stafford already faced him.

520
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 3: He didn't look as good as Jane Daniels did when

521
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: he faced them, you know what I mean. There's Andy Dalton,

522
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 3: the Red Rifle, had a nominal game against my Raiders

523
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: a week and a half ago, face the Cincinnati Bengals.

524
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 3: He didn't look at Jaman Daniels did as he did

525
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: last week against the Sincanati Bengals under pressure on Sunday

526
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Speaker 3: against the Cardinals, which is supposed to be the time

527
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 3: when you're at your absolute worst. Ten for ten, ninety

528
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 3: six yards, a touchdown, five first downs on the ground,

529
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: no sacks. So maybe we need to readjust and recalibrate

530
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: the way we view rookie quarterbacks because rather than expecting

531
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Speaker 3: this to be a once in a generation type thing,

532
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 3: the way we saw with CJ. Stroud, and before that,

533
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 3: probably the nex closest guy was what maybe Ben Roethlisberger.

534
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: Who's to say that we can't have a guy like

535
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Speaker 3: that buck Well? I mean as a rookie, he was

536
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 3: doing a lot of picks.

537
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Speaker 2: He wasn't I think ten wins that got to the playoffs. Yeah,

538
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: but I mean I need to look at the numbers.

539
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: The numbers were not as good as he just point

540
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 3: blank period. And now Jaden Daniels is doing everything that

541
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 3: Stroud did last year, but honestly a tick higher. So

542
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 3: if he is as advertised, I'm always not going to

543
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: this kind of a pace and be unprecedented. But if

544
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: he can be even seventy five percent of what he's

545
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: done through the first month of the season, not only

546
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: will the Commanders win the AFS or the NFC East,

547
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 3: they are legitimately a threat to make a run in

548
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: the NFC postseason. But he is I'm not saying make

549
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl or even but they will win a

550
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 3: round or two. If he can keep this kind of

551
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 3: pace up. He's that RG three maybe absolutely. I mean,

552
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: if if RG three hadn't torn his knee up, that

553
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 3: would have been the same conversation Jay Daniels has been phenomenal.

554
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: So let me just put it in perspective. Real quick running. Okay,

555
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: Week one, sixteen carries eighty eight yards. We're all like,

556
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: he's gonna die. That's too much. Week two ten for

557
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: forty four, so six fewer. Week three against Since he

558
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: twelve for thirty nine, and this, you know, blowout City

559
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: eight carries forty seven yards, so he's he's definitely running

560
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: a lot less and winning from the pocket. Speaking of

561
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: winning from the pocket, let me just quickly, I don't

562
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: have much on the Bears. I think you guys heard

563
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: me on the herd. You know, kids, college tuition was

564
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: on the line. The five twenty nine plan everything on

565
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: the Bears, and they did deliver, thank goodness. But like

566
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: I watched Caleb Williams closely in this game, and it's

567
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: almost like he's hearing to do not run anymore. Don't run,

568
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: you have to stay in the pocket. And it was

569
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Speaker 2: almost to his detriment. Now, let me look at his

570
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: rushing numbers, because I'm guessing they've gone down not that significantly.

571
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Speaker 2: In Week one against Tennessee five for fifteen, then five

572
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: for forty four against Houston when he was running for

573
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: his life. But in this one five for twelve yards,

574
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: the longest being seven. But he had his best quarterback

575
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: rating performance against the Rams no turnovers by the way,

576
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: and his best QBR again fifty two passes last week.

577
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: Remember that atrocity against the Colts. That was just dumb.

578
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: This game plan, Oh we're going to pass less. Seventeen

579
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: of twenty three, super efficient, highest completion percentage he won

580
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: from the pocket. The weird thing is the run game,

581
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: which was nonexistent, erupted. I mean, DeAndre Swift had a

582
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: massive game. My brother's extremely happy with Swift's performance for

583
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: fantasy purposes, had one hundred and sixty five total yards.

584
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: The Bears basically were like, oh, we're going to actually

585
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: play smart football this week, and they did. Now the Rams,

586
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure they got a lot of gripes. They only

587
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: punted once, moved up and down the field, just couldn't

588
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: get out their own way, missed a field goal. I

589
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: think they were one for four in the red zone.

590
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: And then of course Stafford got hitting the head on

591
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: the game deciding interception, and there was like some DJ

592
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: more drama by the way on the Bears that a

593
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: Bear's buddy texted me about I need to read more

594
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: on it before I talk about it, but I don't know.

595
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: It was a nice win from the Bears, and I

596
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: like what I see from Caleb. I just don't know, Rob.

597
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: It is going to sound crazy, But like Cliff Kingsbury

598
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: as an oc is perfect, is he gonna want a

599
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: head job again? I don't know. We'll find out. I mean,

600
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: he looks really good. Maybe he's just not cut out

601
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: to be a head coach. He's gonna be a great

602
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, but like Eberflus in Chicago, I don't know

603
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: if he's going to be there next year. And then

604
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: Caleb has to basically hit the reset button. So I'm optimistic.

605
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: It was a nice win for the Bears. I liked

606
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: what I saw from Caleb. It was progress. But ultimately

607
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: I'm all the Patrick Mahomes stuff is just silly in hindsight.

608
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: You know, well, go I tell you this is gonna

609
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: sound kind of hot, taky, you know, coming off a win. Especially,

610
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: I hate what Chicago has done with Caleb Williams. And

611
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: to your point, I think Kevin O'Connell had it right

612
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 3: when he said last week in The Rich Eisend Show,

613
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 3: that organizations fail quarterbacks much more often than quarterbacks fail organizations.

614
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: And when you bring in Caleb Williams, who you know,

615
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: is hailed as the greatest prospects in Spain Manning, however,

616
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: he is a very different quarterback. Where he excels is

617
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: off script, off schedule, outside of the structure. Basically, you know,

618
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: similar to Patrick Mahomes when he first came up, all

619
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: of his best plays were off schedule. It was never

620
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: one two three, Bam, let me hit Kelsey one two three,

621
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Speaker 3: crossing route this hurgricarl. That's not what made Patrick Mahomes

622
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: the All Caps version of Pastor Mahomes early on in

623
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 3: his career. What made him Mahomes was he would be

624
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: finding a ways to scramble left, scramble right, chuck it

625
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: forty yards across his body to you know, McCole, Hardman

626
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: or whoever. And then that was like the ooh aw,

627
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: like he's that kind of talent. That's what Kayla Williams does.

628
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: And Shane Waldrin, the new offensive coordinator, seems to have

629
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: beaten into his head add nauseum through the first month

630
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: of the season that we do not want you to

631
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: play backyard football. You are going to play instructure in system.

632
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: This is how you're going to develop as a quarterback.

633
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: That might work for seventy eighty ninety percent of the

634
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: of prospects coming up. I don't believe you're gonna get

635
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 3: the best version of Kayler Williams playing like that. You're

636
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: gonna need to let him freelance a little bit. You

637
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: need to let him cook, let him cook, let him

638
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 3: be Caleb Williams five to six times a game, and

639
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,239
Speaker 3: they are jamming it into his head that this is

640
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: not how you play quarterback in the NFL. And because

641
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: they have an offensive coordinator you mentioned Cliff Kingsbury, who

642
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: is trying to square peg round hole this situation. I'm

643
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: worried that you're never gonna see the best version of

644
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: Kayleb Williams that Bears fans expect, the NFL fans expected.

645
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: You got to find an offense and an offensive coordator,

646
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: head coach that's gonna be willing to let him roam

647
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: free every once in a while, the way Mahomes did,

648
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: the way Aaron Rodgers did, the way Josh Josh Allen does,

649
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: And until they let that happen, he is going to

650
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: be a good. But I don't think he's ever going

651
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: to be a transformational quarterback in that way. I just

652
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 3: don't see it.

653
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Speaker 2: We usually opened the Monday Pod with Sunday Night Football.

660
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: I guess it deserves a cursory mentioned. But it was

661
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: a bloodbath. It wasn't even a good game, and we

662
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: called it on here. Ravens smashed the Bills. Basically, the

663
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: Ravens did to the Bills what the Bills did to

664
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: the Jags. When you get a night game at home,

665
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: the crowd is lubricated. The whole defense was flying around.

666
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: There's a Ravens defense that like has really struggled defensively.

667
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: The Gardner Minshew carved them up. Okay, at a one

668
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: o'clock start. All of a sudden, the Ravens defense is

669
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: flying around, blits in the hell out of Josh Allen.

670
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: Other than like one incredible Josh Allen deep throw to

671
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: Shakur on the sideline. I didn't think Alan had a

672
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: great game. He had a fumble that was costly obviously

673
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: on some trick play, gimmicky action, but overall this did

674
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 2: not look like a formidable Bills team that everybody thought

675
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 2: was super Bowl bound last week. Again, it's a week

676
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: to week league. I don't know how many times I

677
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 2: could tell you guys this. It's like what five years

678
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: on the podcast, we're not saying it, Like the Bills

679
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: look dominant utterly on Monday and they look mediocre at best.

680
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: Now there's a huge win because the Jets obviously lost.

681
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: The Patriots continue to be rotten, and that leads us

682
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 2: into the Monday night games. There's two of them, well

683
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 2: one and a half Tennessee zero to three at Miami.

684
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: Miami is starting Tyler Huntley. I mean in my pick'm pool,

685
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: and it's weird because they have weekly prizes. I'm in

686
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 2: third with ten correct games. There's two guys tied for first. Well,

687
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: two guys had eleven. I'm at ten. I think I

688
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: got I gotta go Tennessee tonight. It's Tyler Huntley playing

689
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: quarterback for Miami, so maybe he shows up and does

690
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: some things. But ultimately, I just I'm not buying the

691
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,479
Speaker 2: Miami defense at all. Now the Tennessee defense maybe without

692
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Simmons, they're great defensive tackle. And you know, Will

693
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: Levis is gonna pick a moment to vomit all over

694
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 2: himself because it's prime time. But I'm gonna stick with Tennessee.

695
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: No significant wager here. I've got him in my pick

696
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: them pool. I was looking at a first half under,

697
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: but you know, it's Monday night football. I feel like

698
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: these two teams played recently and in primetime, and it

699
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: was like an unbelievable comeback. Rob does this ring a bell? Somebody?

700
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 2: I think it was Tennessee had an unfathomable comeback. I

701
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: does not recall. I'll have to look that up. So

702
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 2: I'm on Tennessee there. And then the Lake game, well,

703
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: I mean staggered, so it's not really a late game.

704
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: Is actually a good one, and that's Seattle and Detroit.

705
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: A lot of line movement. This is three, this is

706
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: three and a half, this is four, This is three

707
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: and a half down. Like, I don't know what I have.

708
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: I don't have a cent on this game. I just

709
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: don't the two teams everybody loved rob Coming into this

710
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: year were the Houston Texans, who have yet to cover

711
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: a game. Okay, because they're everybody the books know everybody

712
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: loved Houston. Amazing freshman year for Stroud and Demiico Ryans,

713
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: and they go out and get Stefan Diggs. Everybody's buying

714
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: the Texans. A lot of people pick them to go

715
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: to the freakin' Super Bowl. Okay, so obviously the public

716
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: is like huge, detections are great, so they inflate those

717
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: lines as such, the Texans have yet to cover a game.

718
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 2: I think they're O three and one. The other team

719
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: is Detroit. They were a covering machine last year. Okay,

720
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: they come within a quarter of the Super Bowl and

721
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 2: that amazing Niners game and they keep Ben Johnson and

722
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: everybody's like, Detroit's going to this super Bowl? Well, what

723
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: are they doing. They're inflating the lines for Detroit because

724
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: they know everybody's betting Detroit. Detroit at home is a

725
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: dump truck. They just run people over. And so if anything,

726
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: I would give a lean to Seattle here getting the

727
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 2: points Denver. Sorry, Detroit did cover the opener in overtime

728
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: against the Rams. They got lucky they went in for

729
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: the touchdown. They did not cover lost outright in Week two,

730
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: and they covered a weird game against Arizona. So they

731
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: are two and one against the spread. But again, these

732
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 2: gambling lines, you could you could just tell a lot

733
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: of stuff when it comes to the teams and how

734
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 2: they're perceived. So I'm on record, Rob, I'll take both

735
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: underdogs tonight. But again I'm not loading up on this.

736
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: I do a little more than a pizza money play.

737
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: I think there'll probably some props that you could look into.

738
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: First touchdown is always fun. It's usually just a dart

739
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 2: throw and then somebody, you know, I hit one Thursday

740
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: night with the Dallas running back Dowdell. I missed Sunday

741
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 2: Night football I had. I did not have Derrick Henry

742
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: going eighty seven yard for a touchdown. So I'll go

743
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: with both dogs tonight, Rob, Do you have any any inclination.

744
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. If you are going pizza money

745
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 3: on these games, I'm going tit money. So you're going,

746
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: you know, thirty five dollars, I'm going seven, because you know, I.

747
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: Wait, where are you getting a thirty five dollars pizza?

748
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

749
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: I thought they were.

750
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: You look at nice area, so I don't know.

751
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, hold on. When you order pizza for

752
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: the family, it is absolutely not thirty five dollars. It's

753
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: at least fifty, right.

754
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's if you get like the sides

755
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 3: and stuff.

756
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: Well, also, we have four people. You guys have two

757
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: and a half two you know, I guess you're yeah, yeah,

758
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: your little baby doesn't.

759
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: We don't have that much. But you know, coming from

760
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 3: a guy who went one and four in the Friendly

761
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: Fade on week four, you know the only game on four,

762
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 3: I mean that bet on the Texans lost that one.

763
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: Bet On the Rams lost that one. Bet On the

764
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 3: Bills really lost that one, the only one I covered

765
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: with the Commanders. It was it was just tough scenes

766
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: for everybody on that one. But if if I were

767
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 3: to bet on Monday Nights games, I don't like a

768
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 3: side on either one for Titans Dolphins because I honestly

769
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: think that they're gonna be Miami's gonna bet with Stu

770
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: Puntley under center than they were with Skyler Thompson. But

771
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 3: if I were to bet in that game, I'm definitely

772
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 3: taking the under on that. I see some places thirty

773
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 3: seven thirty seven and a half. I don't think either

774
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: team is going to be able to score very much

775
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 3: in this game, so I would be pounding the unner

776
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: on that one. And as far as the was it

777
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 3: the night game, if you were to call it that

778
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: between Seattle and Detroit, I'm with you. I like Seattle

779
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 3: in this situation. Their offense is quietly one of the

780
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: better ones in all of football. Their defense we knew

781
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 3: was going to be good as soon as they got

782
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator from Baltimore to run their defense. So

783
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: to your point about the Detroit Lions, Vegas is kind

784
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: of baking in that public money, you know, perception with them,

785
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: and I think four is way too big of an

786
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 3: That's what I'm seeing here as we're recording at this time.

787
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: So I think this is a field goal game at

788
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 3: most either direction. So I'm taking Seattle plus the points

789
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: all day long. Love it.

790
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: Now. This week is interesting because we have our first

791
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: London game vikings at Jet So my Sunday morning now

792
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: I need to wake up shucks what like six thirty

793
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: am just so I can watch and I gotta watch

794
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: the entire Jets VIC list. That's a big game. I mean,

795
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: first of all, the Vikings are not. Are the Vikings

796
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: going five and oh? I don't think so. Are the

797
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: Jets going two and three? That would be really bad.

798
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 2: And then and then you have teams with a bye.

799
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: And let's see here, the Eagles have a bye. I

800
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: know that because they lost. The Chargers have a bye.

801
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: I know that because they lost, and uh, hold on,

802
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: there's two more. Let's see it is the Lions and

803
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: the Titans. So they're both playing tonight, interestingly heading into

804
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: their by Eagles and Chargers both lost. And I will say,

805
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: we didn't talk about the Eagles, rob did it not?

806
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: They were down twenty one nothing before they had a

807
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: first down that looked like a team that was doing

808
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: the one two three can coon chant in the locker

809
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 2: room like, oh, I can't wait to go on vacation

810
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: this week. You know that was my read on the egos. Now,

811
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: the Chargers came out with fire harbor. I was not

812
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: gonna let that happen, but I do wonder if maybe,

813
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: and again, you get a break in the middle of

814
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: the football season after going hard, like even if it's

815
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: only four days, that's amazing, right, You recharge the batteries mentally,

816
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: like Rob, you know what it's like before you go

817
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 2: on vacation, You're like checked out several days in commands, right,

818
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: so you don't think these guys are human. So Lions

819
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: and Titans, that's not great for my Titans. I just can't.

820
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: I can't back Stepudley. But yeah, anyways, all right, that's

821
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: a Monday Pod. We are back Maniana with Monday Night

822
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Speaker 2: Football Fallout. Talk to you tomorrow