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But man, that boy mahomes you. He 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: don't give up easy, Mitchell. He does not. He does 39 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: not relent, and that team does not relent. 40 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: He does not Richard. Our friends at Brightling. As you 41 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: guys know, they're releasing a hundred team watches each. These 42 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: are time pieces that will stay in the family forever. Richard, 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: I freaking love mine. I'm gonna be wearing it on 44 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: Monday Night against your Seattle Seahawks. This is my gluck charm. 45 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: Rich this is my good luck charm. We're gonna get over. 46 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna get over that mountain that is Seattle. I'm 47 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: telling you that right now. 48 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: Mitchell, Mitchell, it's you know, I see better than our 49 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: heater at this point in time. I think it's gonna 50 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: be a really good game. I think the Detroit Lions 51 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: have an incredible offensive line. Obviously we talked about ragno 52 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: is banged up, but Seattle's defensive line is really banged up. Now, 53 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 2: they're really deep. They're really deep. They got interchangeable pieces, 54 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: but two huge, huge factors on his defensive line, Leonard 55 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: Williams and Byron Murphy, the first round pick. Maybe they 56 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: may be without him this week in Detroit, and that's tough. 57 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: This is probably the one game you talk about when 58 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: you see on a schedule that you need your big 59 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: people eaters up front to be available, and it's not 60 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: looking likely. But I got a feeling Mike McDonald, in 61 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: this brilliant scheme that he has both against the run 62 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: in the past, is gonna find up a way to 63 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: scheme this up and tighten those gaps and make it 64 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: really difficult for the Detroit Lions to see it. You know, 65 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: when he was with Baltimore, they gave Golf some tough times. 66 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: I mean, they gave Kyle Shanahan some tough times. Everybody 67 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: saw that game where Lamar Jackson the four interceptions for 68 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: brock Perty. This defense in this scheme can be very 69 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: disruptive regardless. But if Detroit wants a chance to win 70 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: this game, they're gonna have to run it like they 71 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: have been. I mean they ranted. I think they ranted 72 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: sixteen times with Gibbs. I mean I think they ran 73 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: it forty times overall. And they're gonna have to do 74 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: that consistently this game. If they're gonna have a chance 75 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: to win in that defense, that's where it's gonna come 76 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: down to. They're gonna have to stop Geno Smith. They're 77 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: gonna have to stop Geno. If they don't stop Geno, 78 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: Detroit has seen it first hand. He can get high. 79 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: He can get high, and he can get going. 80 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: He can And what a lot of people don't realize 81 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: about Gino is he's slippery out of the pocket, you know, 82 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: and that those tons of quarterbacks always give the Lions trouble. 83 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: They've been doing better. Their front four has been a 84 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: little bit more tenacious this year, especially Aiden Hutchinson. I 85 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a really, really good test for 86 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: both teams. Both teams are banged up. I mean we're 87 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: entering week four the season. Injury barg is starting to hit. 88 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Sam Laporta got rolled up on. He's probably 89 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a game time decision, I'm sure. Like you said, 90 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: Frank rag now looks like he's weak to week for 91 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: the Lions. Now they lost, you know, Derek Barnes for 92 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: a considerable amount of time, Richard, it's next man up 93 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: part of the season and we shall see. Like you said, 94 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: Detroit's got to get the running the ball early and 95 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: often and take control of this game. What I loved 96 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: what they did last week. They hopped out. They got 97 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: twenty points on the board in the first half. But 98 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: I don't get it, man, they were unable to score 99 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: in the second half. You cannot do that against Seattle. 100 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: Seattle's got a lot to prove. Still, They're three and oh, 101 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: they're one of the hottest teams in the NFL, and 102 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: you know they're gonna come in looking for a win. 103 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: Monday night football should be fun. But Richard, we saw 104 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: some double headers in the Monday night landscape last night. 105 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: And in the Bills, I mean laid an absolute she 106 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: lacking to your favorite quarterback in the league, Trevor Lawrence 107 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: and the Jackson Bill Jaguars. Richard, what in the world 108 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: happened here? 109 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: Well? Well, first off, first off, Bill's mafia has to 110 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: be ecstatic because going into this game, going into this season, 111 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: there was some concern, there was some doubt, and I'm 112 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: sure they they'll they'll say there wasn't they always They 113 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: knew it all along that these receivers in this offense 114 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: would be just fine regardless of the situation, regardless of 115 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: losing Stefan Diggs and gave Davis and all the pieces 116 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: that they lost. And James Cook has been playing really well. 117 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: But what Josh Allen is doing right now is elevating 118 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: himself into a different stratosphere than than he's been in 119 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: in previous seasons because just like Mahomes did when when 120 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill left, he answered a lot of questions, Hey, 121 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: can he do it without Tyreek Hill? Yes, Canny, can 122 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: he still be an MVP caliber player? Is this his 123 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: his level playgun fall off? It's not. It's going even higher. 124 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: And that's what Josh Allen is showing the world. Hey, 125 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: it's me. It's hey. Everybody eats be. That's what he said. 126 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 2: Payd him full Mitchell. Everybody eats be and everybody's eating. 127 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: He's distributing the ball to everybody. Kean Coleman is doing it, 128 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: Khalil Secure is doing it. You see Dalton kink getting 129 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: involved a little bit. You're seeing everybody touch the football, 130 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: and it's really cool to see him have an MVP 131 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: caliber season showcasing himself and you're not sitting in there saying, hey, 132 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: Stephan Diggs is having an amazing game, and man, what 133 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: would he be without Stephan Diggs. He's answering those questions 134 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: really clearly with an exclamation point, and you have to 135 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: give him. In the Buffalo Bills, this defense, who have 136 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: a lot of young guys playing really really good football. 137 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: Von Miller is looking like his old self. Got another 138 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: sack last night. I think they had four or five 139 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: sacks in the first half. It's it's looking like a 140 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: really formidable team. And sometimes it's addition him by subtraction, 141 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: And when you're not so focused on getting one guy 142 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: to football and featuring that one guy and feeding him 143 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: and making sure he gets his touches, then it opens 144 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: up the whole offense because the defense can't double him, 145 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: they can't cloud him, they can't push the coverage towards him. 146 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: They're spreading it out and Josh is making phenomenal decisions. 147 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: He deserves a ton of credit, uh for everything he's 148 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: he's been doing. But on the other side, and we 149 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: have to get through this because Bill's mafia, I'm giving it. 150 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: This team is incredible. This is a super Bowl contending team. 151 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: They will be in my Power rankings top five and deservedly. 152 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: So I was wrong. I thought this team would it 153 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: would have some growing pains early, that they would have 154 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: to adjust and and and things. You know, they they're 155 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: still a quality football team and McDermott is gonna you know, 156 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: he's a good coach. They're gonna be competitive. But I 157 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: did not expect him to come into the season, go 158 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: undefeated and just be so dominant. They be they just 159 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: be Jacksonville dominant. They beat Miami dominant. They've looked really good. 160 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: The only game they didn't look super dominant is against Arizona, 161 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: and Arizona's one of those wildcard teams that just is 162 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: given everybody a tough time. You know, it's one of 163 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: those weird schemes. And offensively, Kyler Murray is a different 164 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: kind of guy. It's unique. But against a team that's, 165 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: you know, straightforward, you know, normal football team, they're doing 166 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: a great job. But on the other side, like Trevor Lawrence, 167 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, and I know, I know, I know Mitchell. 168 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 2: They call me a Trevor Lawrence hater. I'm not. I 169 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: don't hate the guy. That he's a good person. I'm 170 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: sure he's a good person, not just a football player. 171 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: And what I was told was a generational talent. And 172 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: people said I'm too hard on him, So I'm trying 173 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: my best to be objective. Give the guy a fair shot, 174 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: Give the guy a fair shot. But what I won't 175 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: accept is people calling him a top ten or putting 176 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: him amongst the elites. When the tape doesn't say that, Like, 177 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: that's not his fault. He's not telling them where to 178 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: place him. But the tape doesn't say that. And the 179 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: amount of money they paid him, the tape doesn't, it doesn't. 180 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't support him getting paid that amount of money. 181 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: And let's go through a couple of things, because I 182 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: want to talk about this Jacksonville team. Their defense is 183 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: not playing well right now. Let's let's get that straight. 184 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 2: They've played really well in years past. I mean in 185 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: the years past, they've had i mean been amongst the 186 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: league leader leaders and takeaways, and that's what's allowed them 187 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: to have success. When they have runs and they have 188 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: great success, it's because their defense is creating turnovers and 189 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence and the offense is capitalizing. When the defense 190 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: does not create a turnover. For Trevor Lawrence in this offense, 191 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: he's one and twenty one one in twenty one Mitchell. 192 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: So this defense knows if they do not create a turnover, 193 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: they're not winning the game. And they have no takeaways 194 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: this sease. They're the only defense without no takeaways. That's 195 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: gonna be tough. That It like if you're when you're 196 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: fifty five million quarterback. That can't be the case. Like 197 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 2: when you talk about game manager and system quarterback and 198 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: putting all these labels and parameters on guys, but when 199 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: guys have generational talent, you don't judge him the same. 200 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: You say he should be doing this, he should what 201 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: is he actually doing? And in this case, Trevor Lawrence 202 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 2: is not getting it done. And you heard some things 203 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: from from Doug Peterson. You know everything is on the 204 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 2: table as far as you know, maybe making changes because 205 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: something got to change. But I don't think anything's gonna change. 206 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: I don't think anything is. I mean, the Jags are 207 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: thirtieth in points per game, they're thirtieth and third down offense. 208 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: And every time you people find excuses to give Trevor Lawrence, 209 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 2: oh it with somebody else's fault. What about the false 210 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: start here? What about the I don't when you're talking 211 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 2: about a fifty five million dollar quarterback. That's why he 212 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 2: doesn't get the benefit of doubt. You don't. At fifty 213 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: five million, benefit of the doubt is gone. We're putting 214 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: it on you. Wins and losses are on your back. 215 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 2: Good batter are different. That's what they're paying you for. 216 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: They're paying you a lot of money. They're not paying 217 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: anybody else that kind of money, top positional money. They're 218 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: not paying anybody else that kind of money. So, yes, 219 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: it's unfair responsibility, but that's what you're getting paid your paycheck, 220 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: says hey, responsibility. And so when I had to look 221 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: at Trevor Lawins, and then I look at guys like 222 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew and what he was able to do in Jacksonville, 223 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: and I know Jacksonville, and do vallfans know that's very 224 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: well he did? Alright? You look at what Jamis has 225 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: done in his career. Jamis has done. Alright, if you 226 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: really go down, let me give you some stats, Mitchell, 227 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: you got a second I do fire away. I'm gonna 228 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: give you Gardner Minshew's stats, his wins, his losses, his stats. 229 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew's record is sixteen and twenty four. That's a 230 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: forty percent winning percentage, forty percent completed, sixty three percent 231 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: of his passes, sixty two touchdowns, twenty seven in exceptions, 232 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: a ninety point three quarterback rating, eighteen fumbles loss. Okay, okay, 233 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: so what is that? Forty five turnovers give or take? Okay, 234 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: forty five turnovers I look at I'm I'm gonna look 235 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: at Jamis Winston. Thirty four and forty six, record forty 236 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: two percent winning percentage, sixty one percent completion percentage, one 237 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: hundred and forty one touchdowns, ninety nine interceptions, eighty seven 238 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: uh passer rating, twenty four fumbles loss, So a lot 239 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: of turnovers for Jamis. Those two guys are our career 240 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: backups now, they're they're they're in and out. Sometimes they 241 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: start Gardner obviously, as they started for the Raiders right now, 242 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: but a lot of people don't look at him as 243 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: a starting caliber quarterback except the rate. You know, he's 244 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: doing really good. I think he's I think he's a 245 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: starting caliber quarterback. I think Trevor Lawrence, and we're gonna 246 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: go through Trevor Lawrence. Record twenty and thirty three, thirty 247 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: seven point seven winning percentage sixty three points two, completion percentage, 248 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: sixty touchdowns, forty interceptions, eighty four point five passer rating, 249 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: twenty one fumbles loss. Now people are gonna call me 250 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: crazy because because he has a different label, because he 251 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: was labeled a generational talent coming out, because he's handsome, 252 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: he has the long hair, he looks the part. He's 253 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: just a name brand Gardner Minshew. He's a Gardner Minshew 254 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: with a better with a better outlook, with a better packaging, 255 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: with better draft position. Like for what they're getting right 256 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: now out of Trevor Lawrence, they could have kept Gardner 257 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: Minshew and they would have got at least equal level play. 258 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: Like maybe you're not getting elite play, but you're not 259 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: getting it from him. And that's where I get frustrated 260 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: where people argue with me because it's just what the 261 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: tape says. Don't argue with me. Argue with the tape, 262 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: be mad at him because what he's putting on tape. 263 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: And you're gonna sit there and say, well, the defense 264 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: didn't do this, The defense didn't do that. Well, Trevor Lawrence, 265 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: it has to do. I mean, Gardner Mitchell got to 266 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: deal with some bad defenses. Sometimes, he got to deal 267 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: with some receivers dropping the pass and some false starts. 268 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: You don't make those excuses for him because certain people 269 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: you just say, well, I mean, he's a back cup, 270 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: what do you expect? But when it's your guy, you 271 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: sit there and say, hey, how can we figure out 272 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: how to qualify this? I don't see it right now, 273 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: Mitchell and I don't see fifty five million, And I 274 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: hate to beat the dead horse, but like, at some 275 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: point you got to see it. At some point you're 276 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: paying a guy fifty five million, you have to see something. 277 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: You have to be able to elevate your team. You 278 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: have to elevate the guys around you. And it's not 279 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: like he doesn't have a talented team. It's not like 280 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: he doesn't have a good tight end, pretty good receivers, 281 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: a good running back in ETN. He has a good 282 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: coach and Dug Peterson. Now people are ready to call 283 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: Doug Peterson a bad coach. Dug Peterson won a Super 284 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: Bowl with Nick Foles, had Carson Wentz looking like an 285 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: MVP candidate for a good portion of the season that season. 286 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: But now since the quarterback isn't playing well, they're saying, well, 287 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: Doug Peterson's the problem, Like how much are you going 288 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: to do that? Like you start to see when the 289 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: conversation is different, It's like, wait, so now the coach 290 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: is the problem. So then you replace the coach and 291 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: then you give him a few more years to figure 292 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: it out, and then you say the next coach is 293 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: the problem. No, Like, at some point you have to 294 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: see what he's projected to be and he's not showing it. 295 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: For me. You kind of hit the nail on the head. 296 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: I think the bar of whether you how you assess 297 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: a good quarterback is how they elevate the players around them. 298 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: And he's got playmakers around them. I mean, etn Christian Kirk. 299 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: You know they just went out and spent big money 300 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: on Gabe Davis, who was hardly involved in last night's game. Yeah, 301 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean Ingram's out and that was his safety in 302 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: that last year. But you just spent a first round 303 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: pick on Brian Thomas. Like the playmaker are there? 304 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: Right? 305 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: Who does Josh Allen have to throw to? Khalil Shakir, 306 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: the guy called in the offseason the great game last night, 307 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: Dalton Kinkaid, I mean finally showed up last night as well. 308 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: Kean Coleman. Their top pick of the draft, Hurtis Samuel, 309 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: I mean, Richard. These are relatively unknown names and you 310 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: got a guy playing across from you that is just 311 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: elevating all of these guys he's got. Fantasy owners were 312 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: loving life if you owned had any of the Bills 313 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: players on your team last night because they all went 314 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: off in that first half. Trevor Lawrence. On the other hand, Richard, 315 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to watch a whole lot 316 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: of Jaguars football to realize this team is in a very, 317 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: very dark place when they're on prime time getting absolutely 318 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: shelled at half. I mean, come on now, and I'm 319 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: with you. Trevor Lawrence. The expectation with him. Two years ago, 320 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: Jaguars got hot. You know, they're one of the hottest 321 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL. I think they had a six 322 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: game win streak. Think everyone got distracted by that win 323 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: streak and what they saw with Trevor Lawrence in those 324 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: games over the last two years. Richard, you just really 325 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: haven't seen it, and you haven't seen it in clutch 326 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: moments for sure. Last night was super eye opening. And 327 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: what you're bringing up with Jamis Winston and Gardner Minshew, 328 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: the question I have for you is what's going to 329 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: change this because obviously the talent is there with Trevor Lawrence, 330 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been a first overall pick. He wouldn't 331 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 1: have led Clemson too a title game if the talent 332 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: wasn't there. The talent is there, but what gives what's 333 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: got to change for him to you know, turn his 334 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: career around at this point. 335 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: Well, Mitchell, it has to be he has to be consistent. 336 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: You know. If you're saying it's to play Calldon, then 337 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: you got to find something that works for him. Like, 338 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: I don't think people are like, well, if you put 339 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: him in a situation, mahomes is in, you put him in. 340 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: I don't think if you put him in a situation, 341 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: mahomes is in. If you put him in Josh Allen, 342 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: if you swap quarterbacks for Jacksonville and you swap you 343 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: put Josh Allen in Jacksonville and you put him with 344 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, I don't think the Buffalo Bills are 345 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: the same team. I don't think they're winning all these games. 346 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: I don't think they're as dominant. I think Jacksonville Jaguars 347 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: would be a better team. And so that goes to 348 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 2: show you. But they're both fifty five to fifty plus 349 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: million dollar quarterbacks and things aren't created equal. That's why 350 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: I say this, This cap system is broke. You guys 351 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 2: are letting these quarterbacks hold your hostage. You got guys 352 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: like like gen L Smith playing incredible football, trying to 353 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: get the Seahawks to pay him what he deserves, and 354 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: he's not getting it. You got Sam Darnold probably gonna 355 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: be looking for some decent money come soon because he's 356 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 2: playing like an MVP caliber quarterback right now. But he's 357 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 2: making what seven million dollars or so, and you got 358 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: fifty five million dollars getting to skate by. And I 359 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: think I don't even know if he has four hundred 360 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: yards on the season. He might have, might have a 361 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: low under five hundred. It's been three games and they're 362 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: owing three and nobody's really they're still sitting there saying like, oh, 363 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: it's everybody else. No, he's part of the problem at 364 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: this point because even if you say the defense is terrible, 365 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 2: they gave up forty seven points unacceptable. Okay, it's not 366 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: like they got beat thirty seven to forty seven. It's 367 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: not like they got beat thirty to forty seven. They 368 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 2: got beat forty seven to ten. And the starting quarterback 369 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: was on the sideline and Mac Jones was in the game. 370 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: Tyna figure it out. That's how bad the game is. 371 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 2: You pull a quarterback in the game, you have to 372 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: start to see that. The Buffalo Bills look really good. 373 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills are a good team, and that's where 374 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna leave it at that with 375 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: this game because I'm I'm I'm very frustrated. Like the 376 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: quarterback ranking is in a way we look at him 377 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 2: have to be year to year. You can't be sitting 378 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 2: here draft position or what they did a few years ago. 379 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: What are they doing right now in the first three 380 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: weeks of the season. What have they done? It shouldn't 381 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: be like, hey, I know he's not playing good the 382 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 2: first three weeks, but I know he's still top five 383 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: because he did something two years ago. 384 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: No, No, Well, speaking of another quarterback and team with 385 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on them, let's go to the 386 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: other games. Cincinnati, they're owing three Richard. I don't think 387 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: anyone really saw this coming. A lot of folks thought 388 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: Cincinnati was gonna be in that conversation coming out of 389 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: the AFC this year with a healthy Joe Burrow. You 390 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: know they get t Higgins back. Jamar Chase had a 391 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: good game last night. But what is the panic meter 392 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati right now? There's no Only one team has 393 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: made the playoffs since two thousand after starting hing three 394 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: and that was twenty eighteen Texans. What gives with Cincinnati? 395 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: Did they have any hope of turning this season around 396 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: after this porous start. 397 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: I mean, it's how they've always started, Metchell, They've always 398 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 2: started bad, but it just feels different this time. There's 399 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 2: so much discord and distrust. This was Jamar Chase's best 400 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: game of the season, and it's no surprise that it's 401 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 2: when T. Higgins returns to the lineup. I've heard I've 402 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: heard people saying that T Higgins is such a factor 403 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 2: that people are prepare for that it helps Jamal R. 404 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: Chase get open and it helps him benefit. And that's 405 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: what good receivers do. I'm sure AJ Brown helps DeVante Adams. 406 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: DeVante Adams, I mean Davonte Smith helps AJ Brown, I 407 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: mean vice versa. Two. Good receivers are tough to deal with. 408 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: But you just gotta start to think like this, Lou 409 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 2: Lou on a Ramo on a Rumo defense is gonna 410 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 2: have to play better. They've played better down the stretch 411 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: when they've had success. It's because the defense has really 412 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: locked up, the secondary has locked up. They put pressure 413 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 2: on a quarterback with with with good pass rush rushing 414 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 2: four it's just not looking at saying the secondary has 415 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 2: been tighter than it is to give up thirty eight points. 416 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: It's tough to win that ball game, you know, and 417 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: you could. You know. I came in here one see 418 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 2: if I'm going to criticize Joe Burrow, you can't. Joe 419 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: Burrow played really well. Joe Burrow played really well. He 420 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 2: threw the ball well. He threw for three hundred yards. 421 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: He threw for three twenty four three touchdowns, no interceptions. 422 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: They moved the ball. Jamar Chay six catches, one to eighteen, 423 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: two touchdowns. Te Higgins is his first game back. He 424 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: had three catches for thirty nine yards, but they distributed 425 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 2: the ball. I think they were fine offensively, but defensively 426 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: they got to find a way to be able to 427 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: stop a rookie quarterback. Now. Jayden Daniels had a heck 428 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: of a day Mitchell. He was a reason that they 429 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: lost his game. He played out of his mind for 430 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 2: him to have a ninety one percent completion percentage and 431 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 2: really be taking shots. He took a few shots to 432 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin and one of the few passes that he missed. 433 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: Guys were on the internet freaking criticizing him, like, how 434 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: does he miss this? Nobody was within twenty meters, I 435 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 2: mean twenty yards of him, YadA, YadA, YadA, But he 436 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: had a man freaking bearing down on him, Like you've 437 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 2: never been in that position. You've never been in a 438 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: position to be staring down looking at an open receiver 439 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: and then see another human being about to do you 440 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 2: harm and then say, oh, you got to be accurate. 441 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 2: He stood in there when he had to, when the 442 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: game was on the line it was zero coverage, stood 443 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 2: in there and delivered a don to Terry McLaurin to 444 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 2: win that game. So give the rookie a little credit. Again, 445 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: Let's keep the standard of criticism and analysis the same 446 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: for everybody. If you're going to be this critical about 447 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: this kid and say, oh, he missed them when he 448 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: had somebody about the you know, destroy him, then be 449 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: that way with every rookie quarterback. Because he looks like 450 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: the best quarterback in the draft. This game. You know, 451 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: it's week to week. Caleb Williams didn't look great. You know, 452 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 2: he looked decent at times at the end of the game. 453 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: But someone say that's garbage time. But right now, Jaydon 454 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: Daniels with his legs, with his arm, looks the part. 455 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: I mean, he set the record for completion percentage for 456 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: a rookie. And it wasn't like he threw it ten times. 457 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 2: They threw it what three times? That defense looks solid. 458 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 2: I was happy for dan Quinn. But yeah, well I 459 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: can't say solid because they gave up thirty three points 460 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 2: and they gave up too many one on ones to 461 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, Like this is this is one of the 462 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: best receivers in football. You know, it's between him justin Jefferson. 463 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: It's a few guys in that conversation. But you don't 464 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 2: leave him one on one unless you got a guy. 465 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: And unfortunately, Washington doesn't have an elite, elite you know, 466 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: wreck worldwide name that's recognized as an elite corner to 467 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: be saying, hey, we're just gonna leave him one on 468 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: one with Jamar Chase and and we'll live with that. No, 469 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: you don't, you don't do that. When you do, he 470 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: has two touchdowns in a hundred yards and that's what 471 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 2: it looked like. But I don't know. I think the 472 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: Pantic meter is like a eight for me. I know, 473 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: I know that Cincinnati Bengals fans in the jungle feel 474 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 2: confident their team has always recovered from these slow starts, 475 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: but this one just doesn't feel that way. It doesn't 476 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 2: feel like it's not like Joe's banged up. Are you're 477 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: looking at injuries or he's coming back and finding his rhythm. 478 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: And you know, he was coming off the calf injury 479 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: one year and things like that, he didn't get a 480 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: lot of training camp time. Those things aren't the those 481 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: aren't factors this year. It just doesn't look the same. 482 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: And while they're not getting better, you got Pittsburgh kind 483 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 2: of running away with the division. They're going to Indianapolis. 484 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: They could start the season four and oh, and you 485 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: were one and three. They're so far behind. And that's 486 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: not even to mention Baltimore. Baltimore, thank goodness. If you're 487 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati, They've they've had a slow start. So, I mean, 488 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: it's only been one team to start on three and 489 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: make the playoffs, and that was the Texans in twenty eighteen. 490 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: We'll see if they can be the second. 491 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: Well, in terms of the Washington Commanders, they got to 492 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: be super fired up with what they're seeing with Jaden Daniels. 493 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: I mean, This guy's got the it factor. Richard. You 494 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,719 Speaker 1: go on the road in a hostile environment and in 495 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: prime time one to night football and you escape with 496 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: a win and have some dazzling throws. I mean, he's 497 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: getting playmakers involved. I mean, this Washington Commander team could 498 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: be one of those sneaky teams. And we talked about 499 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: it in our season preview. Look out for Washington because 500 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: if Jayden Daniels can be this year, CJ. Stroud, they 501 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: got enough talent around him. You know, this NFC South 502 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: is up for grabs and they're right in the mix 503 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: with it. Washington's a dark horse, Richard. Speaking of panic meters, 504 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: we got to go back to San Francisco, and I 505 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: know you gotta be a little little nerved here. CMC 506 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: is facing a significant injury. George Kittle out now we're 507 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: seeing you know, debo. Now, we got news that Javon 508 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: Hargrave is out for the season with the torn TRICEP 509 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: and Brock Perdy is day to day with back soreness. Richard, 510 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: where's your head at with San Francisco. What's the level 511 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: of panic now? 512 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 2: It's starting to get up there, Metro, it's probably a 513 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: seven and a half eight just because and this is 514 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: what I'll say. I'll preface it with this, it's tough 515 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: in the National Football League, and it's tough to consistently 516 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: go latent to the playoffs in the National Football League. 517 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: I don't think people understand the fatigue that puts on 518 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 2: your body. And I know people will bring up the 519 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs and what they've been able to do, 520 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 2: but they've been able to do it, and then a 521 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: lot of times they refresh a lot of that roster. 522 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: I mean, they have their standard pieces of Patrick Mahomes, 523 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey, Justin Reid has been on the team a 524 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: couple of years, but a lot of these pieces changed. 525 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: George car Loftis has got him a couple, Chris Jones 526 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: is obviously a foundational piece. But if you look at 527 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 2: the tackles, if you look at the tackles, the tackles 528 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: have been different for a lot of their Super Bowl runs. 529 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: You look at it, it'd be two different tackles for 530 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: one Super Bowl, different tackles for the next Super Bowl, 531 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: different tackles for the next Super Bowl. And if you 532 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: look at their defense, their secondary, they find corners. They're 533 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: doing great job of drafting and developing players, and that 534 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: goes to Lagerius Snead and his development. Tarveri's ward was 535 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: a big factor in their first Super Bowl wins in 536 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: San Francisco, in Miami. I mean, and then you took 537 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: look at McDuffie. You look at them acquiring Tyron Matthew 538 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: and the impact he had, and then he leaves and 539 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: they bring Justin Reid in. He has impact, and they 540 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: just keep finding a way. But in San Francisco they've 541 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: been doing it with the same cast of guys, and 542 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: it's just I think the emotional physical toll of extra 543 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 2: games every single year. It's just starting the way it's 544 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: starting Newton way heavy, expectations way heavy. And it matters. 545 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 2: It affects your health when you're sitting there every time 546 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: and you win games and it feels like you're lost. 547 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: It's like, hey, even winning games isn't good enough. Now 548 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: you win the game, you didn't win it good enough. Hey, 549 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: you go to the Super Bowl, you didn't win it, 550 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: So you guys didn't do good enough. You get to 551 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 2: the NFC Championship after a disappointing season where you where 552 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: you make some huge plays and make a run late 553 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 2: and then you fall short in the NFC Championship and 554 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: people act like you didn't even make the playoffs, and 555 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: so it's just hard, you know, and so the panic 556 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: meters up there. It's gonna take a great job of 557 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: coaching from Nick Sorenson. Defensively, it's gonna take Kyle Shanahan's 558 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: best coaching job to really keep this on track. And 559 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: he's done things like this before. We had injuries like 560 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: this in twenty nineteen. We lost Joe Staley, we lost 561 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: Mike McGlinchey, we lost h kwon Alexander, we lost D four. 562 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: We lost so many. I mean we lost I was 563 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: out for a game in twenty nineteen. We lost a 564 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: lot of guys, and he just kept finding ways got 565 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: other guys step stepping up. Next man mentality. We kept 566 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: losing running backs and then you would see Breeder run well, 567 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: you would see Tevin Coleman run. Then you'd see Raheem 568 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: Moster running the football, and other guys just kept stepping up. 569 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: It didn't matter what happened. Guys knew the assignment, and 570 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: so I'm expecting the same response from this team. It's 571 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: great leadership. Guys are tough, they're gonna play through these 572 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: injuries if they can. Trent Williams is still working himself 573 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: into shape. I guarantee you that not a harder working 574 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: human being on the planet. It's just different playing football. 575 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: He's fighting as far as he can. I'm sure he's 576 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: getting better. He'll be better at this game than he 577 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: was last game. The same with Brandon Ayuk. It was 578 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: a great confidence building game for Juwan Jennings and brock Party. 579 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: Hopefully the brock Party injury isn't too serious because that 580 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: could have a really detrimental impact on this team's performance. 581 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: But Bolsa came in with a rib injury. He fought 582 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: through it. You know, he's out there toughing it through. 583 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: But it just gives somebody else an opportunity. And I 584 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: hope Javon is able to heal up and come back. 585 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: But it's it's tough, you know. The concern level with 586 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey is going up as he goes to see 587 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: more specialists and trying to figure out a way to 588 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: overcome this. But Jordan Mason's playing good in the interim. 589 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: George Kittle expected back. Hopefully tar Various Award is feeling healthier, 590 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: talanoa Hufunger will have another week under his belt. Green Law, 591 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: they say is expected back mid season. I really think, quietly, quietly, 592 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: that's that's the factor this defense is missing, the amount 593 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 2: of intensity, speed and attitude and just impact that Drake 594 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: Greenlaw brings to the field. He's a menace. He's a 595 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: menace out there, and and Fred Warner is that same way. 596 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: But with both of them, it's it's chaos, you know, 597 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: it's really you know, guys looking around, you know, guys 598 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: head on the swivel because you don't know which one 599 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: is gonna come body slam you. And so without him 600 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: on the field, I think they're missing something. Though I 601 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: know DeAndre camp I mean, uh, Campbell's trying to do 602 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: a good job. They kind of attack him late for 603 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: a touchdown with Kyron Williams, But you just need more 604 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,239 Speaker 2: from him, and it's it's unfair to ask that of him. 605 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: Drake Drake green Law is an all Pro caliber player and 606 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: has played that way. And when you when you're without that, 607 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: it's evident. 608 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: Well, you talked about the cast of characters, and they're 609 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: starting to have to pay these casts of characters, and 610 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: in doing so, we talked about it already. You gotta 611 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: you got a cut bait with some of these guys. 612 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: And one of the guys I guarantee the faithful wants 613 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: back is Eric Armstead. You know. I mean that's a 614 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: guy who was a cap casualty for this team, let's 615 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: face it, and I know he's one of your good friends. 616 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: This is a guy that they need in the trenches 617 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: right now more than ever, and unfortunately he's playing in Jacksonville. Richards, 618 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: it's time for our Thursday Night Football TNF preview, presented 619 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: by a Prime Video. You're going to be heading back 620 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: to New York City. I know you're fired up for 621 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: that six hour cross country flight that you're about to 622 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: embark on. The Cowboys are taking on the New York 623 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: Football giants, who finally got in the win column looked 624 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: a lot better this past week. Prayers up for the Browns. 625 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what the heck's going on with them, 626 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: But Richard, what's your thoughts here? Vegas says this line 627 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: is a four and a half point favorite in favor 628 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. What's your thoughts going into Thursday Night? 629 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: Well, if history is any indicator, Deak has yet to 630 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: lose to the Giants in the last twelve meetings. The 631 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: last twelve outings, he's been completing sixty seven percent of 632 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: his passes for two hundred and seventy five yards, twenty 633 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 2: six touchdowns and only six interceptions. They're gonna have to 634 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: find a way to slow him down. And right now 635 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: Dallas needs a confidence boost, and I'm sure they're gonna be, 636 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 2: you know, chopping at the bit to really be explosive offensively. 637 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: You saw a little frustration between Cedee Lamb and Dak 638 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: Prescott last week, and I'm sure they're ready to get 639 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: that bad taste out of their mouth to home losses. 640 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 2: This is the perfect remedy for those ailments that they 641 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: have run the ball. They haven't been great against the run, 642 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 2: they haven't been great stopping the run. They haven't been 643 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 2: great running the ball. And now this, this d line 644 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 2: for the New York Jets is not to be tried. 645 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: One of the best defensive lines. You can talk about 646 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: a lot of other things, this is one of the 647 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 2: best defensive lines in football. With Brian Burns, Dexter, Lawrence Thibodeau. 648 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 2: They they're gonna make it really hard for this Dallas 649 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 2: office line and without Tyron Smith, it's just looked different. 650 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 2: You know, he brought a level of confidence stability to 651 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 2: this offense. They had always been like you looked at 652 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: Dallas's offensive line for the last decade or so a 653 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 2: little bit more, and you've always just felt like they're 654 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: one of the best old lines in football. You know 655 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: the names, you know, the Hall of famers, and now 656 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 2: they don't have them, and it just feels more leaky. 657 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: And so this defensive line is the only reason I 658 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: believe in Molik Neighbors. Elik Neighbors really put the team 659 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 2: on his back offensively last week, and it was really 660 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: cool to say he took accountability for dropping that pass 661 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 2: the week before, felt like he let his teammates down, 662 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 2: let his team down, and responded in a big way. 663 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: And you love to see that from one of your 664 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: young leaders and a guy who's probably going to be 665 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 2: the face of this franchise going forward. Just being accountable 666 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: and then responding in the right way. You know, that's 667 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: really inspiring to your teammates doing things the right way, 668 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: and kudos to him being able to do that. It's 669 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 2: gonna be a really tough game. It's gonna be a 670 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 2: really tough game. It's gonna be a challenge for Trayvon 671 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: Diggs to keep him in. But hopefully this is gonna 672 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 2: be a remedy for Dallas's pass rush because they haven't 673 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 2: been what they have been in the past. Like I 674 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: no hit, I mean one hit on the quarterback. I 675 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 2: didn't see a lot of sacks last week. It's just 676 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 2: they just haven't been getting home like they have in 677 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 2: the past. I mean, they had been chaotic. Michael Parsons 678 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: has one sack on the season right now, and at 679 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: this point, you know what I mean, you're expecting used 680 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: to him having you know, two three sacks. You know, 681 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 2: sometimes he has a zero sack game, then a two 682 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 2: sack game. Maybe this is going to be his coming 683 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 2: out party. But they're gonna need it. 684 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: They definitely are. Cowboys need to get right, and this 685 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: is an opportunity for the Giants to prove themselves too. 686 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: They spent a lot of their time, as you discussed, 687 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: building in the trenches in the offseason. That was a 688 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: point of emphasis, specifically on the d line. So this 689 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: should be an interesting game. 690 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: I too. 691 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 1: I like the Cowboys personally, but this is this week's 692 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: TNF preview presented by Prime Video. Make sure you guys 693 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: watch the Cowboys take on the Giants on Thursday. It 694 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: starts at PM Eastern with your guy, Richard Sherman sitting 695 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: across from me. 696 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 2: Here. 697 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: You get everybody, you get, Carissa Fits with Tony, you know, 698 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: Kaylee Hartong, I mean, al Michaels, Kirk Kurbstreet. There's no 699 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: better broadcast in sports right now than TNF on Prime Video. 700 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: Make sure you guys tune in this Thursday. And Richard, 701 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: we got to bring it back for week two of 702 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: our segment Buy or Sell. I'm gonna throw a couple 703 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: of topics at you. You tell me whether you're gonna 704 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: buy them or sell them. We're gonna start with a 705 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: journalistic hot take of the week that just got absolutely bashed. 706 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure everyone I know which way you're 707 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: gonna lean here being a defensive guy. But mel Kiper 708 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: came out with the hot take of the weeks and 709 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: the NFL should ban the cover two. Richard, you buying 710 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: or selling this hot take? 711 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: I'm selling every bit of it, and I'm selling it 712 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 2: and and I mean I'm selling that mel Kuiper should 713 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 2: give these kind of takes. You just stick to the 714 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: draft at this point, because if you're saying stuff like that, 715 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 2: then maybe you know, maybe creating rules and adjustments isn't 716 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: for you. That's a ridiculous take. The defense is already 717 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 2: handicapped by so many rules, I mean, illegal contact, past interference, holding. 718 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: You can't corners can't chop three hundred and fifty pound 719 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 2: linemen anymore. They're like, why is this corner just getting 720 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: pushed over? Well, because the corners one hundred and eighty 721 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 2: pounds and the guy that's pushing them is three hundred 722 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 2: and forty five. Physics is something that we all learn 723 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: in school, and if you didn't, well, you're getting an 724 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 2: example on Sundays when you see corners and offensive linemen interact. 725 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 2: It's not gonna go well for the corner. If they 726 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 2: can't create a power, they can't keep it inside or 727 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 2: anything like that. So sell that mail just enough. 728 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: Stick to the draft. 729 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 2: Stick to the draft, yeah, and I mean you call 730 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: you stick to the draft. 731 00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: Speaking of the draft, Richard by yourself, we could rewind 732 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: time a bit back to April Jade and Daniels should 733 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 1: have been the number one overall pick. 734 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 2: Oh oh oh, but Mitchell sometimes and I've said this before, 735 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: sometimes the benefit and the blessing is in not going 736 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 2: number one. It will see J. Stroud the year before 737 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 2: where you're like, man, c J. Stroud should have went one. 738 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure CJ. Stroud is sitting right now in Houston 739 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 2: like very happy to go to This is probably the 740 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 2: only time in my life that second it's just where 741 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 2: I want it to be. And this is the same 742 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: situation with Jaden Daniels. He's walked into a situation where 743 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 2: there's a different level of stability, a head coach, a 744 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: different system, a different city, different coordinator, et cetera, et cetera, 745 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 2: And sometimes the right situation for you might not have 746 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 2: been Chicago. Maybe he goes to Chicago and his season 747 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 2: starts differently and his maturity and his development isn't the same. 748 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 2: We talked about should first year quarterbacks be starting. He 749 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: just showed us that it is possible. You know. C J. 750 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 2: Stroud showed us last year it is possible to be 751 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 2: efficient and developed with time on the job. And for 752 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 2: him to have the highest completion percentage as a rookie 753 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 2: in NFL history his third game into his career is incredible. 754 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,479 Speaker 2: So I'm buying that mental it's hard not to buy 755 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 2: that right now, and I'm trying to find. I'm trying 756 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 2: to find because the Cincinnati Bengals played the Kansas City 757 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 2: Chiefs last week and so we got to see them 758 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 2: against Patrick Mahomes in this defense against Patrick Mahons and 759 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 2: and you know, I mean it was they held them 760 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 2: in the twenty six points and that's pretty good for 761 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahoon's coached offense. They got weapons, they their defense 762 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,959 Speaker 2: is really good. And then for him to score more 763 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 2: points than Patrick Mahoons is really something that you need 764 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 2: to keep eye on. You know, these are two defenses, 765 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 2: same defenses. He scored thirty eight, Patrick scored twenty six. 766 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 2: I'm not obviously not saying he's anywhere in the stratosphere 767 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 2: of Patrick Mahomes, but it's just more gives more credence 768 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 2: that this is a defense that has played, you know, 769 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 2: and some guys that have played at a high level 770 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 2: at times. And he really had his way with him 771 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 2: when he got pressure. It sometimes complex looks, sometimes the 772 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 2: guise looks that other quarterback struggle with He was able 773 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 2: to diagnose it, get the ball where it's supposed to be, 774 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 2: only miss two throws and even those two throws got criticized. 775 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: So I'm buying it. 776 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: Love it, Richel. Let's go to the NFC North. As 777 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: much as it pains me to ask this question, I 778 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: gotta ask it the Minnesota Vikings. I don't like you 779 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: right now, Rich the Minnesota Vikings will win the North. 780 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: Your thoughts by yourself. I please sell this, please, for 781 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: the love of God. 782 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 2: Mitchell, I wanted to sell it. I want to sell it, 783 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 2: but Mitchell, I can't. I can't not right now. The 784 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 2: stock is too hot. The Minnesota Vikings. If you really 785 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 2: look at and we're gonna we're gonna look at this 786 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 2: in a microcosm and a vacuum because I'm gonna go 787 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 2: down a tangent here. But if you look at Brian 788 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: Floores his time in Miami, they went on some winning streaks, Mitchell, 789 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: where they played really good defense and he was forced 790 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 2: to play to a tongue of Availoa. And I know 791 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: we heard all Toua's comments about Flores and all this, 792 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 2: but I remember that season where where Ryan Fitzpatrick was 793 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 2: having a really good year. He went to San Francisco 794 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 2: and I think he might have thrown for four hundred. 795 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 2: It was a really crazy game, and he just was 796 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 2: having a really good season and then out of nowhere, 797 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,240 Speaker 2: they decided to sit him and say they're playing Tua, 798 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 2: and Tua's struggled initially, you know, everybody's saying it's the offense, 799 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 2: and it's this, and it's that, and I'm like, it's 800 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 2: just threw for four hundred with these same guys, So 801 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 2: how is it the offense? And TUIs can't throw four 802 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 2: hundred yards? And obviously TOAs developed into you know, found 803 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 2: a perfect place with Mike McDaniels, got paid, you know, 804 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 2: playing really good football. But Brian Flores's defense has played 805 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 2: historically well and given a lot of quarterbacks problems and 806 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 2: they won I think before he got fired from Miami, 807 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 2: I think they won seven straight to finish the season. 808 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 2: And so it works so to match that defense with 809 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell's offense. And during Kevin O'Connell's tenure, they've been 810 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 2: a winning team. And Kirk Cousins got hurt at the 811 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 2: Achilles injury, so that knocked him off track. But they 812 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 2: were even winning games with Dobbs because the system that 813 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 2: he he does a great job as a play caller, 814 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 2: as a schemer as a as a coach that understands situations, 815 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 2: understands the defense. And then you got Justin Jefferson, arguably 816 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 2: the best receiver in the National Football League. And then 817 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 2: you insert Sam Darnold, who just seems like a hand 818 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 2: and glove fit for this offense. It's just matches made 819 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,399 Speaker 2: in heaven. Symbiosis all around within this organization. You talk 820 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,919 Speaker 2: about the home field advantage in Minnesota, in that dome 821 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 2: and the fans, you know, the skull chance Aaron Jones 822 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 2: and his impact. I'm sure he's looking forward to another, 823 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 2: you know, another good revenge game, old fashioned revenge game 824 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 2: against the Green Bay Packers. But they're looking like a 825 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 2: really complete team and it's hard to find weaknesses to 826 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 2: this team, especially when you got guys like the Ginkler. 827 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 2: You know the Ginkler, you know he leaves, he's coming 828 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 2: in making an impact. Grenard has four sacks. You're getting 829 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 2: contributions all over the place, so it's not even like 830 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 2: you can key on one guy and say, hey, we 831 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 2: got to stop this guy. We got to stop this guy. 832 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 2: The pressure is coming from everywhere, and you lost guys 833 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 2: like Danil Hunter and that left holes that you're like, hey, 834 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 2: how are they going to fill that hole? And it's 835 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 2: schematically they're doing it by committee, They're doing it by 836 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 2: it's a team effort. Every body's eating, everybody's getting home, 837 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 2: and I gotta buy them. They're true contenders of contenders 838 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 2: for the NFC North, but contenders in these playoffs and 839 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 2: contenders for the one or two seed, especially in this 840 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 2: NFC NFC that looks wide, wide. 841 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: Open, Richard, I'm gonna sell your decision to buy that one. 842 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I don't mean to, right, But 843 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 1: the reason is is I think the Detroit Lions are 844 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,439 Speaker 1: just getting going, and I think they're going to show 845 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 1: you that on Monday Night football. I think you're gonna 846 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: be probably throwing that hat around that you're wearing quite 847 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: a bit because you're going to be in disgust when 848 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: when the Lions go and take a double digit win 849 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: one day night in prime time. But I will say 850 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 1: this about the Vikings. I do like the roster a lot. 851 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: They're playing without Jordan Addison, without TJ. Hockinson. Seemingly everyone 852 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,439 Speaker 1: wrote them off this offseason. No one, no one thought 853 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: the Vikings would even be remotely in contention for the 854 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: North let alone borderline Super Bowl contenders at this point 855 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: what they look like. And the Viking's got a hell 856 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: a lot of talent on that roster, so I'm definitely nervous. 857 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: I'm buying the fact that I am nervous as hell 858 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: about the Minnesota Vikings going forward. Richard, next subject matter 859 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: buying or selling the Dallas Cowboys. They're done, They're missing 860 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs. 861 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna sell that just for the simple fact they're 862 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 2: too talented of a team. And the aftermath of them 863 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 2: not making the playoffs this year, and the chaos and 864 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 2: the noise that is gonna surround that team. I don't 865 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,240 Speaker 2: even want to I don't even want to imagine after 866 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 2: Jerry Jones says they're going all in this season and 867 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 2: then makes proceeds to make no real free agency splashes. 868 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 2: You let Tyron Smith walk, you let Pollard walk, You 869 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 2: don't really make any You let Gilmour walk. And now 870 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 2: the defense is looking a lot shakier. You don't really 871 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 2: have an interior defensive lineman that that's really that impactful. 872 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 2: People are running the ball at will against this defense. 873 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 2: You get Zimmer. You make that decision people instead of 874 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 2: promoting from within and keeping continuity, you know, promoting Al 875 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 2: Harris into the defensive coordinator role. But I just don't 876 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 2: think I think they're too talented at Cedee, Lamb Dak Prescott. 877 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 2: They're too good of a team. Micah Parsons. They're gonna 878 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 2: find a way to win enough games to at least 879 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,760 Speaker 2: get that seventh seed. If they don't. 880 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:31,359 Speaker 1: Oh, we revisited this subject last week. Revisited it last week. 881 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna revisit it now. The Steelers will win the 882 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 1: AFC North by or Sell. 883 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 2: I might have to buy that. I might have to 884 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 2: buy that, Mitchell. Let me look at this schedule, because 885 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 2: it's if they continue to have these games that are 886 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 2: winnable games because their defense is playing at such a 887 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 2: very high level. I don't think it's being recognized or 888 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 2: talked about enough, but they're keeping them in these ballgames. 889 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 2: And Justin Field Waller, Justin Fields developed time under the job, 890 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 2: time on the job, finding ways to win, finding his rhythm, 891 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 2: the coordinator, finding ways to get him in his comfort zone, 892 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 2: finding the things that he does well. I think they're 893 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 2: gonna have a great opportunity to win because I mean, 894 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 2: you watch them beat the Broncos and you're like, oh, Okay, 895 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 2: the Broncos aren't very good. But then the Broncos win 896 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 2: a really good ballgame. Uh, and then you see them 897 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 2: play really good that bon Knicks has his best game 898 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 2: of the season. That's probably the guy they drafted and 899 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 2: the guy they've been seeing in training camp and the expectation. 900 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 2: But they have the coach. The Steelers have the coach. 901 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 2: This week, they they have the Cowboys coming into their stadium. 902 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 2: They have a home game against the Cowboys. Then they 903 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,359 Speaker 2: have the Raiders, and then they have the Jets, then 904 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 2: they have the Giants. Mitchell, those are all winnable games, 905 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 2: the Jets, the Cowboys game is gonna be tough, The 906 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 2: Raiders game is just gonna be one of those dragout games. 907 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 2: The Jets game is gonna be competitive if what is 908 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 2: Aaron's gonna do? But the Giants game is a winnable game. 909 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 2: The Commanders then like, yes, I'm buying that. I'm buying 910 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,959 Speaker 2: that they can win n AFC North because they where 911 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 2: they were last season. Gives them a chance to be 912 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 2: in position to play the teams that they're playing. And 913 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 2: the Browns are looking like they're having a down year. 914 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 2: Cincinnati doesn't look that great. They're on three to start 915 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 2: the year. We've talked about Baltimore losing to the to 916 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 2: the Raiders. They were able to pull it out this 917 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 2: week and beat the Cowboys pretty convincingly. But Mike Tomlin, 918 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is this is his masterpiece. 919 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 2: This is his sixteenth chapel, This is his u this 920 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 2: this is his master piece. Because they're three and oh, 921 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 2: and if they're four and oh, with with all the 922 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,799 Speaker 2: conversations and the questions going into this season, he has 923 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 2: to be one of the front runners for Coach of 924 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 2: the Year along with Mike McDonald uh and the things 925 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 2: that he's doing in Seattle. Uh. You McDermott with his 926 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 2: Buffalo team that have lost so many pieces. I mean, 927 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 2: there's a lot of good coaches that you can talk about, 928 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 2: but he has to be up. 929 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:13,399 Speaker 1: There next on the list. The Titans, we don't talk 930 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: about the fights a whole lot, but we're gonna talk 931 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,720 Speaker 1: about him right now. They made a mistake in siding 932 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: with will Levis and letting Malik Willis walk. 933 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,240 Speaker 2: No, I sell that because they just weren't. They weren't 934 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 2: the team that that was gonna develop them. Sometimes you're 935 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 2: just not built to develop guys, and maybe a new 936 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 2: coaching staff could have done better. But I'm thankful to 937 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 2: see Malik Willis going to a place that he could develop. 938 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 2: Lafloor said that was one of the most fun coaching 939 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 2: games that he's ever had, just drawing this up and 940 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,800 Speaker 2: watching Malik go out there and execute, and trying to 941 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 2: draw up a plan that allows him to showcase his 942 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 2: talents and then watching it come to fruition and come 943 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 2: to life, and the way it did in Tennessee in 944 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 2: front of those fans, the team that drafted him, team 945 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 2: that gave up on him. He said he really appreciated 946 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 2: that and enjoyed that, and I'm sure Malik Willis enjoyed that. 947 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 2: So no, no, I think I think the Titans made 948 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 2: the best decision for the Titans and the best decision 949 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,919 Speaker 2: for Melik Willis. It's working out both sides. Obviously, will 950 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 2: Levis has had his struggles. He's played solid, but he's 951 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 2: made some bone head mistakes. You know, who knows. He'll 952 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 2: figure it out eventually or they'll draft another quarterback. But 953 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 2: this is best for Malik Willis. Well. 954 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: It goes to show you too, the importance of coaching 955 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 1: because Matt Lafleur really did a number with Malik Willison 956 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 1: these last two starts. I think a lot of people 957 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,280 Speaker 1: will expected the Green bit Packers to falter without Jordan 958 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: Love and here they are winning with Walt relative ease 959 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: these last couple of games. Kudos to Matt Lafloor in 960 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:49,800 Speaker 1: that coaching staff. Onto the next. Aaron Rodgers is officially. 961 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,879 Speaker 2: Back by or so bye bye, and by a lot 962 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 2: of it, he's back. He has that swagger when he 963 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 2: starts to give these with the little air getting little points, 964 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 2: and you know, start looking at guys, and you better 965 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 2: be careful because he comes from a different era than 966 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 2: a lot of these guys. There's only a couple of 967 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,720 Speaker 2: these dinosaurs left, and he's one of them. Tom's done. 968 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 2: It's only he's the last of a very dying breed, 969 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 2: an old school brand of quarterbacking, an intellect, a person 970 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 2: who understands these schemes. Mel Kiper doesn't have to you 971 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 2: don't have to band cover two. When Aaron Rodgers is 972 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 2: on the field, I guarantee you he has answers. He 973 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 2: sees it, he diagnoses it, he beats it consistently. So 974 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 2: he's a different kind of quarterback. So I'm buying that 975 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,240 Speaker 2: Mitchell He's back, and the New York Jets fans couldn't 976 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,399 Speaker 2: be happier. Robert Sala couldn't be more excitic, and they're 977 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,720 Speaker 2: gonna be an issue going forward. 978 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 1: And finally, after getting off to an extremely slow start 979 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,360 Speaker 1: to the season, Travis Kelcey has eight receptions for sixty 980 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: nine yards throughout three games. This will be Travis Kelcey's 981 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: last season by or. 982 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 2: Sell sale sale sail when he decides. If he says it, 983 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,320 Speaker 2: I'll believe it. But as long as Travis Kelsey wants 984 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 2: to play, he gets to play. His resume says that 985 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,240 Speaker 2: his play his chemistry. We just talked to Trent McDuffie 986 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 2: about the outstanding chemistry, almost mind reading, almost telepathic connection 987 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 2: between Patrick Mahons and Travis kelce and as I'm sure 988 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,399 Speaker 2: they're good friends and as his go to target, you're 989 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 2: gonna have to drag him out of that building before 990 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahons is okay with Travis Kelsey retiring. I don't 991 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,439 Speaker 2: care what his stats are for the season. I don't 992 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,319 Speaker 2: care if he had one catch. He's still a very 993 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 2: important piece and he's still the guy that Patrick mahoons 994 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 2: if everything fails and all his loss and things are 995 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 2: falling apart, he's going to go to in the playoffs 996 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 2: in the crucial moments and he's gonna be there and 997 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 2: he's gonna make those plays. So if he decides to 998 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 2: But no, I'm selling that. 999 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I think Travis Kelty's the Helse 1000 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,359 Speaker 1: is the ultimate pros pro. I expect to rebound here 1001 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 1: after a troubling start to the season for him. I 1002 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 1: see him returning to his normal selfire relatively quick. Richard 1003 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,439 Speaker 1: that concludes this this I guess mid season or mid 1004 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 1: week podcast. Richard sin Us off my friend, Well, I gotta. 1005 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 2: Sign you off, but I'm gonna before we sign off, 1006 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna give you my power rankings, Mitchell, because 1007 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 2: I've always and I'm not I'm not leaving without giving 1008 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 2: that Kansas City is first, Mitchell. And I know how 1009 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 2: you feel. You want your Detroit Lions up there, and 1010 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 2: you want me to just give them credit, and I 1011 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 2: want to give him credit, but it's hard to ignore 1012 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings. Minnesota Vikings Skull there are number two 1013 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 2: right now in my power rankings. And I'm and I 1014 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,879 Speaker 2: think they deservedly. So I don't think there's a lot 1015 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,879 Speaker 2: of teams that look at that tape and want to say, 1016 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 2: we want to play Minnesota, we want some of that. No, 1017 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 2: you don't. You know. It's like when you saw you 1018 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 2: saw somebody when you saw the movie Friday and Deepo 1019 00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 2: beat him up and he said, you want some of that, 1020 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 2: old man. No, No, I don't you know one of 1021 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 2: those Minnesota vikings right now, Mitchell? And I know you 1022 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 2: want the Detroit Lions to want some and Detroit has 1023 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,239 Speaker 2: some bully ball and their great culture. That's gonna be 1024 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 2: a dogfight. Now. I can't wait for that game. 1025 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: But then I got enough Lions stuff here, Richard. I 1026 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 1: figured I brainwashed you enough. I got my Brightling Lions 1027 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: watch on, I got my Lions hoodie, I got my 1028 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,839 Speaker 1: Lions pennant. Whatever. Man, I'll let you put the Vike. 1029 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,240 Speaker 2: I love, I love the Detroit Lions and that honl 1030 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 2: Lulu Blue Mitchell. But I just gotta say, what's another tape? 1031 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta call it straight. And then third, 1032 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 2: I want to go with Josh Allen probably the MVP 1033 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 2: front runner. If it's not Sam Donald, then it's Josh Allen, 1034 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 2: and if it's not those two, then Patrick mahoons is 1035 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 2: right there. But they're probably getting bored of giving Patrick 1036 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 2: mahon's MVP, so they want to give it to somebody 1037 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 2: else this year. But they're three on my list, deservedly, 1038 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 2: Sow and forth. I gotta go with the Seattle Seahawks. 1039 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 2: They're playing good football. This Mike McDonald coach defense. It's 1040 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 2: giving a lot of guys problems. Mitchell Troit Lions want 1041 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 2: to get back into power ratings power rankings. Beat the 1042 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks and you'll be back, you know. That's that's 1043 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 2: how you get back to the top of the mountain. 1044 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 2: You knock people off and you earn your spot. And 1045 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 2: I want to put Pittsburgh there because of their record 1046 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 2: and their defense. But I'm not quite ready for that yet. 1047 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 2: That's why I'm not quite ready to put the Pittsburgh 1048 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 2: Steelers in that spot and give them that kind of claim. 1049 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,399 Speaker 2: I'm not quite there yet. But that fifth spot, that's 1050 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 2: the tough spot for me. That's the tough spot because 1051 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 2: there's so many teams just playing so inconsistent. Philadelphia Eagles, like, 1052 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 2: what are they? They had a great game offensively, on paper, 1053 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,240 Speaker 2: you see Jalen Hurts three hundred yards, all these things, 1054 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 2: but then it's only fifteen points. What happened in the 1055 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 2: red zone? And then you thought the Saints. We thought 1056 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 2: the Saints so much offensive production early on, and then 1057 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,840 Speaker 2: it kind of disseminated in this game against against the 1058 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles. So I don't know if I want to 1059 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 2: give them to that. It's the Green Bay Packers able 1060 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,919 Speaker 2: to weather the storm, whether the Jordan Love injury. Right now, 1061 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,359 Speaker 2: they're weathering this storm with Malik Willis is playing some 1062 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,840 Speaker 2: really good football, impressive making himself some money, love to 1063 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 2: see it. Or is it one of the old contenders 1064 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 2: that's just starting slow in Baltimore, Ravens m. 1065 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: Mitchell the answers right here over my right shoulder. Rich, 1066 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 1: take a look up, my friend. 1067 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 2: I'm looking at. 1068 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: The answers right there, the answers right there, my man. 1069 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 2: Because I think they're gonna make me right this week. 1070 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 2: And they're gonna be four and oh. Pittsburgh Steelers Justin 1071 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 2: Field's t. J. Wattney's Pittsburgh Steelers, Mike Tomlin. Give me 1072 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 2: all the crap you want, but if they start the 1073 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 2: season off four and oh, and you don't got them 1074 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 2: in your power rankings, then I don't know how you 1075 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 2: ranking it. I mean, wins matter in this league. 1076 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: I respect it, Richard. I'm excited to see what happens 1077 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 1: on Monday night as the Lions have an opportunity to 1078 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 1: earn their way back into the top five year power ranks. Richard, 1079 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: you can officially sign us off. Nah my man, Well, 1080 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: thank you again for joining us. In all our new subscribers, 1081 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 1: we appreciate you. Keep building this channel. We want more 1082 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: people to see it. Keep giving those comments, good back, constructive. 1083 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: We listen to all of it and I appreciate it. 1084 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 1: We're trying to make this the best podcast in the world. 1085 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 1: Thank you again for joining us. We love you, love 1086 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 1: and respect. Have a great day. We'll see you next time. 1087 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 1: The volume