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Speaker 1: M hm m hm. Welcome back. I can't even say

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Speaker 1: another addition to all the smokers. This is just not that.

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Speaker 1: This is definitely not this is not that. I mean

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Speaker 1: I think after this episode we might just need to

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Speaker 1: retire our podcast. Not only that and just hanging up. Hey,

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Speaker 1: yesterday's price, it's not today's man. We want to welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show, man, I mean, what what what can

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Speaker 1: we say? I mean, one of the biggest stars in

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Speaker 1: him a little bit of his time and sit down

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Speaker 1: with us. Man, Welcome to the show. Will Smith. Well,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you, man, appreciate absolutely, very happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for I want to listen to your space

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Speaker 1: and having some of your time UMS studios, Yeah, where

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Speaker 1: we were. Yeah, just you know, I just I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, bring you out, bring out. I'm

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Speaker 1: only about fifteen minutes from you, so yeah, he came

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Speaker 1: from Atlanta, so he's got that. But let's get to it. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, someone who's always lived their life in the

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Speaker 1: public eye, Um had to sacrifice a lot. Obviously came

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Speaker 1: with a lot. But I want to start with fatherhood.

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Speaker 1: What are some stuff you can give fathers out there

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Speaker 1: guys like us that have stenuous schedules, UM, but still

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Speaker 1: being there for the important stuff and learning on the

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Speaker 1: fly because there's no real book or rhyme or reason

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Speaker 1: to this. Oh man, fatherhood. UM, you know that this

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Speaker 1: this has been um, probably the the greatest period of

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Speaker 1: my my fatherhood. UM. I was and and okay father

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Speaker 1: uh for for my first son, UM, I got a

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Speaker 1: little bit better with uh Jaden, I got my sea

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Speaker 1: legs with with with Willow UM. And probably the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years of my life I had sufficiently suffered

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Speaker 1: enough to have real wisdom UM. And this last year

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Speaker 1: with my kids has been the best parenting UM. If

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Speaker 1: I had to, if I had to say something, UM

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Speaker 1: to guide someone about it is first and foremost, everybody

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Speaker 1: sucks at the beginning. It's okay, you know, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: It's it's okay to not be good at it. It's

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Speaker 1: do for your kids is learn and grow yourself. Right

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Speaker 1: when when we're trying to force our kids to do

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Speaker 1: stuff and under understand things that we didn't do, that

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Speaker 1: they lose respect, and it's like, you know, I found

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Speaker 1: a place with my kids where I could say I

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Speaker 1: don't know, and let's let's figure it out together. Let's

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Speaker 1: go find that out two together. But we're we're doing

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Speaker 1: this as a team. It's not me telling you how

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Speaker 1: to do some stuff that you can see I don't

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Speaker 1: know how to do. We got a chance to watch

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Speaker 1: the best shape of my life. Great peace, But again,

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Speaker 1: your kind of nervousness when you had to tell the

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Speaker 1: kids about how they are in the book. And obviously

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Speaker 1: it was received and well and you guys laughed and

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Speaker 1: you cry. But what kind of relief was that once

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Speaker 1: you kind of got through with that sit that you

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Speaker 1: said it was a four hour sit down and beautiful you.

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Speaker 1: I was probably around that same um two year ago

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Speaker 1: period UM. I decided I was going to examine my

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Speaker 1: I was trying to win. Nothing was gonna stop me today.

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Speaker 1: And I was just driving, driving, driving towards the goals

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Speaker 1: and the accomplishments of everything that I wanted to do

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Speaker 1: in the material world. So probably about uh two years ago. UM,

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Speaker 1: on a deep level, right, UM. I started noticing it

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Speaker 1: And I noticed that I wasn't as proficient at connecting

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Speaker 1: and and and loving somebody. I could provide, I can provide,

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Speaker 1: I'll lay it out. But in those moments when my

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Speaker 1: the major things that I that I addressed with myself,

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Speaker 1: then watching that show was you know my dad Marine

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Speaker 1: three Dude Protector one and looked up to him, but

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Speaker 1: at the same time he was abusing my mom. And

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Speaker 1: How my mom passed to know seven from cancer, so

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Speaker 1: just recently, like a month ago, I had a conversation

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Speaker 1: I didn't know you cared. I'll do whatever it takes

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Speaker 1: to get better. And I was like, holy ship like

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Speaker 1: that's not my dad's style. But you know, obviously preparing

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Speaker 1: for this and watching your stuff, Like there was a

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Speaker 1: lot of similarities from that standpoint. But what you were

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Speaker 1: You know? It just it Uh, it just opened up

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Speaker 1: have a relation to right. Um, for me as a

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Speaker 1: my mother and I didn't do anything, and I processed

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Speaker 1: And you know my father also Air Force military, and

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Speaker 1: you know, he trained a discipline into me that you know,

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Speaker 1: And there was that realization like I can do it anything,

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Speaker 1: but you still didn't protect your mom. You lest you

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Speaker 1: you know, And it's like, um, you know, it's been

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Speaker 1: a real process purging that and um forgiving myself for

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Speaker 1: hated it. I'm human. I want to be Superman. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I gained the father. But there was times while

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Speaker 1: I said and look at him like, motherfucker, I remember

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Speaker 1: what you used to you know what I mean. But

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Speaker 1: us as the first and foremost forgive yourself. You can't

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Speaker 1: your experiences and you learn and you grow along the way,

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Speaker 1: and we're we're all chasing our higher selves and it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be that. We just saw the screening of Emancipation. Man,

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Speaker 1: let me say this to you. Um, I'm always intrigued

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Speaker 1: about what character you're gonna play and how it's gonna

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Speaker 1: come out, but this was something that was unexpected by me.

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Speaker 1: I knew you could play any character, but just seeing

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Speaker 1: you playing Peter and learning this story, I learned a

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Speaker 1: lot from watching this film. More than any film that

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Speaker 1: So the fact that you took time to tell that

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Speaker 1: I went, I went, I went hard. Um at this one, Um,

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Speaker 1: Antine was like, ah, we can't make this movie right here, man.

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Speaker 1: I was like, wait, what, how is that possible? Then

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Speaker 1: Antoine's trailer burned down, like burned down, but it was

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Speaker 1: I'm looking like two phases on Batman on this side

426
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting there like they say, God, don't guy,

427
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: don't like us ran cleaning too that tree man? Is

428
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: that how your nose got that? I was waiting on though,

429
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 1: that's the first joke. I don't know what took him

430
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: that long. You don't take him now, yeah, because we're

431
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: here with you. Because if you don't, don't take him down.

432
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: It's the Slavery movie and the oscars. Now we're back.

433
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: Oh man, Basketball movies growing up? Was one of your

434
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: favorite movies? Basketball movie? Basketball growing I know you're hooper, Yeah,

435
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: what was it? What's the one? What's the basketball movie? Yeah?

436
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: I was like, what was the basketball movie? Who's your

437
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: back there? That's probably the only one. The Fish, that

438
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: same pit spurg Dock believe, Yeah, yeah, Fish, the Saint Pittsburgh.

439
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeoh, that's my dude. When did you fall

440
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: in love with the sport? Um? It was really the

441
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: only I wasn't I wasn't never good, but it was

442
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: the only thing athletic I could do, Like my my world.

443
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: Talk about it a lot your whole career. You gotta stink. Yeah, no, no,

444
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: because fresh Prince you just had academy he was down

445
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: to eight and a half foot dunk people. Yeah. Shoot,

446
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't say if I could act like I go.

447
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: Shoot yeah, shoot, you give me the right camera, man,

448
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: I'll take both for y'all. Dad, the right camera, right cameraman. Shoot,

449
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: I let me looking hard being from Philly. What did

450
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: it mean to you to be able to now be

451
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: a part owner of the seventies sixers. Yeah? People don't

452
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, because every time the season starts, I've

453
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: been working like cat to the game. Yeah, it's like

454
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 1: we got one like crossed. I was shooting bad Boys

455
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: in Miami and the team was playing in Miami. I

456
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: was like, okay, okay, I haven't been like I literally

457
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: been to like four games, you know, so I'm selling

458
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: my city out real bad um. But dude, that first time,

459
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: remember the first time that I walked in to the

460
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: arena and the hometown fans knew that I was you know,

461
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: oh my god. Where there's nothing like walking into your

462
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: hometown arena. And that's a tough crowding there. Yeah, tough

463
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: crowding there. Yeah, Philly is a tough crowd Philly. Philly

464
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: is generally good to Philadelphians. It's just if you you

465
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: come from outside, you know, it can it can get bad.

466
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: I got a chance to play with Aither they walked

467
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: on he walked on water. Yeah. Absolutely, it's like a

468
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: I and Philly. You know, he could part anywhere and did. Yeah.

469
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: You sports fans, Philly sports fans like if you they

470
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: just need you to work hard. You work hard, they

471
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: love Yeah. When did music come into the picture for you?

472
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: Twelve years old, I started writing rhymes and that was

473
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: just after the rappers Delight. Rappers Delight hit. It was

474
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: over for me, Like it was it was like God

475
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: telling me that's what I needed to do, you know,

476
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: And I heard that and it was it was I

477
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: just knew, you know, and you know, I don't I

478
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: don't know if it's the same thing with with athletics,

479
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: but just you had that first time and you just

480
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: know it's like I just love it. I love it.

481
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: This is what I want to do. It's like I

482
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: found I found my power in words, you know, I

483
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: found there the uh, just the essence of who I

484
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: am in in hip hop. How instrumental was jazzy Jeff?

485
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: For you? You said you've never met someone who worked

486
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: harder than you. He showed you. He set the bar. Yeah,

487
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: Jeff is Jeff is a musical genius, right, Jeff the

488
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 1: references that he can call them, the things that he

489
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: understands about music. I knew how to rhyme, but Jeff

490
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: knew how to make records. Right. Jeff had like, uh

491
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: ten thousand records in his basement, and he had he

492
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: came from a musical family, and uh, Jeff had he

493
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: had cancer when he was young, so his mom he

494
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: couldn't go outside, so he lived in that basement with

495
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: those records. I don't even know what cancer was back then. Yeah,

496
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: yeah it was. It was like it was funny. Yeah

497
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: it is. It's interesting. Yeah, it seems I guess just

498
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: being young, I just had no idea you know what

499
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: that was. It was much more of an adult understanding.

500
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, he was. He was sick for a couple

501
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: of years and and uh beat it. And but his

502
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: whole time was in that basement with records, and that

503
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: became the world he disappeared into. So you're on tour

504
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: now as a as a late team with Public Enemy

505
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: and To Life. Dude, what was that? It's crazy. I

506
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: just did adjust to that. But that's how hip hop

507
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: was back then. Just like you could put all the

508
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: different crews on one show. So it was it was

509
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: Jazzy Jeffer, the Fresh Prince, Public Enemy and To Live crew.

510
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: And I talked about it in the book about us

511
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: going through the South, right, So in the South they

512
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: had morality laws, right, so they would meet with us

513
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: ahead of time, and you know, the local sheriff would

514
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: come and meet with all the groups and they would say, hey,

515
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, we know what you did and making Georgia

516
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: the other night. Just just don't think you're gonna do

517
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: that in mobile, right. And so here's the if you

518
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: perform this in your show, if you perform that in

519
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: your show, you will be pulled off stage, right, Um

520
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: and Chuck d Public Enemy had a piece where they

521
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: would hang a Klansman on stage as a part of

522
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: every show show and Luke Skywalker would be naked. Everybody

523
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like officers sir, you don't

524
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: need to say nothing to us. But I promise you,

525
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: Chuck and say plans man tonight. And I promise you

526
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: Lucas go ahead for the first course. Yea. And sometimes

527
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: they got arrested they know him sell out the next show. Yeah,

528
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: and that's yeah, that's what Jack, you know, Chuck was

529
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: Chuck was saying, they they were really aggressive on the

530
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: first part of the tour, and Chuck said, as we

531
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: started to move under the tour and I never know,

532
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: he said, he started feeling like he was putting everybody

533
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: in in jeopardy. So he started picking the cities where

534
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: they would do it. But Luke would get Luke was

535
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: having to do every other show because he'd be in

536
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: jail for one miss one, so he would he would

537
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: do the Tuesday night show, he would miss Wedsday because

538
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: he was in jail, and he'd be back on Thursday.

539
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: I laughed. I laughed out loud when he were it

540
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: was obviously in your head, but you're like, officer, I agree,

541
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: you don't have to tell me my mom and I already,

542
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 1: but it was like on on that tour, it's like

543
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: those dudes, we're genius. Chuck would show up with activists.

544
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: He would have lawyers and activists with him to meet

545
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: with the sheriff's. Luke realized they were there were FCC laws.

546
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: When he was in Miami, he realized they were FCC

547
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: laws to the ocean, and so he got a boat

548
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: and put his radio station on the boat because there

549
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: was like maritime law. So now he's an international water

550
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: So then he could said, I was like business, you know,

551
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: and it was like being that was really like our

552
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: first tour and just seeing the level of intellect that

553
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: these dudes were using to you know, get their get

554
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: their music out in the world. And we we just

555
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: wanted to like party and meet girls, and it was

556
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: like they were they were doing something else, next level.

557
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: Russell Simmons, it took him a second to get to you,

558
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: but once he got to you, how instrumental was he

559
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: and and kind of just opening doors and expanding your

560
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: guys as opportunities. Yeah, Russell Russell was Russell was you know,

561
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: single handedly directing hip culture, you know, and culture during

562
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: that time. UM and Russell was our manager. UM And

563
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: I remember I didn't I didn't talk about this in

564
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: the book, but when I when when I knew I

565
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: loved Russell, so we signed for management. So Russell and

566
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: Lee or Cohen had our management. So a couple of

567
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years went by. Things were

568
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: going well, and it was right before Fresh Prince and

569
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: I had contracts that wouldn't allow me to do Fresh Prince.

570
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: So I go to I go to Russell, and I

571
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: was like, you know, because my rushed contract stated that

572
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: I had a certain amount of torent whatever it was,

573
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: so I said, you know. I went in and I

574
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, you know, Russell, you are

575
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: you you holding me back? And it's like you call

576
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: yourself an artist manager and you don't know shit about artists.

577
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: And I have a dream and I have a vision

578
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: for who I want to be and your mind is

579
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: so small that you can't write blah blah blah. I'm

580
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: giving him all of that. And Russell's sister and he

581
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: looks at me and his eyes welled up with tears,

582
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, and he said it was

583
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: like it wasn't I wasn't expected. His eyes welled up

584
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: with tears, and he said, you really think I'm holding

585
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: you back? And I was like I had I had

586
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: like committed so I had to double down. It was

587
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: like absolutely, and he paused and he looked over at

588
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: his lawyer. He said, let him go. You're free today.

589
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, and let me out of

590
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: the contract literally with nothing, no strings attached, nothing, you know.

591
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: He could at taxed me on Fresh prints and movies

592
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: and a note clean let me go that day. And

593
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: I was like, I love that, dude, that somebody want

594
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: to see you win. Yeah. Absolutely, And it was like

595
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: it was a deep offense to him that an artist

596
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: felt like he was holding him back. He's so committed to,

597
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: like his whole life is helping artists, you know, achieved

598
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: their visions. Six seasons of The Fresh Prince. Do you

599
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: feel like during that time you kind of really honed

600
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: into who you were as an actor. Yeah. I think

601
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: one of the best things that ever happened, uh to

602
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: me in terms of acting was James Avery. That Yeah,

603
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: James Avery. He he was like nothing was good enough.

604
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: He was like, Nope, you have too much talent for that.

605
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: Noe more nope. And it was like I'm doing movies

606
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to you know, And it was like

607
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: he made sure that I understood my responsibility to hone

608
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: my crab aft as a gift to the world. You know.

609
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: He was like, no, you're you're you've been You've been

610
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: gifted too much to play with, right, And he just

611
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: kept pushing me. He kept pushing me. He watched everything

612
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: I did, he commented, he would give me notes on everything.

613
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, I talked. I talked about that

614
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: in the book too, that the uh the father sing.

615
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: The Father sing was the first time and uh, you know,

616
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: we had the moment we were doing the scene and

617
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: you know, I was I was blowing my lines. I

618
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: couldn't get it together. And at the end of that

619
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: father see James agree is hugging me and he whispers.

620
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: He whispered in my ear. Now that's acting right, And

621
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: I'm I wanna jump in front of you real quick.

622
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: You guys had every beautiful I mean, there was going

623
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: to be something come through that show. Let that happens.

624
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: Every single one came through that shows. It's too much

625
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: power for one minute. Man. Every I looked when you

626
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: when you you kept three runs these days ago, just

627
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: say yore, yeah, And it's like it wasn't on It

628
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: wasn't like on purpose, but it was like it's the

629
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: hot show and it's you know, one of the handful

630
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: of black shows on and so everybody was unbelievable was

631
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: coming through on on Fresh Prints. It was it was

632
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: thank god I was married. I would have ruined my

633
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: life for quick. I would have ruined my life for

634
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: sure if I wasn't married. I knew that. I knew

635
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: that young too. I knew that young too, that each

636
00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: episode all place. Sorry, sorry, sorry, my bad. Yeah. My father,

637
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: my father was My father was hardcore. I had done something. Uh.

638
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: He gave me the great the greatest quote, and he

639
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: was he was furious. I was had girls at work

640
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and he just screamed at me,

641
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: keep your dick out in people's money. That's a bar.

642
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: That's a bar. I was like, Yo, I kind of

643
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: touched my soulf ship. It was as daddy, Yo, Daddy

644
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: kept it. I'm just thinking right now, I know a

645
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: couple of bucks and need to do that. Yeah, I

646
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: changed I changed it for my kids. There was the

647
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: right idea. I tell my kids, no fishing off the company. Pier.

648
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: Did you know what she was doing for the culture

649
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: doing a fresh Prince When you were showing up with

650
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: the fresh Jay's No, I know you didn't no idea.

651
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: It's like I was. I was living the culture, right.

652
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: You were the coach right at that time I was.

653
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: I was literally calling Jordan's and I was like, Mike, please,

654
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: please don't give it to nobody, Like, just let me

655
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: be the first person. I gotta be the first person

656
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: to where. He was like, man, I don't run that.

657
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: He was like the fours where the fresh Princess. They

658
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: called the four as the fresh Princess. There's the fives

659
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: now they did that. I hadn't seen ione. Yeah, have

660
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: fresh sport, fresh prince fivesop. That's crazy. You had to

661
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: sit down with Aunt Viv. Yes, and I had a

662
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: chance to watch that. How how important was that for you? Man?

663
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: So I made a tissue out. I feel it coming out.

664
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: I feel it now. I would be mature, I would

665
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: be I feel it, I feel it coming out. I um.

666
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: Now that I said thank you, that's that's bad. I

667
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: camp be on all the smoke mean no, and we

668
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: get in touch with I desperately want to be a

669
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: good person, Like I desperately I want to be valuable,

670
00:45:52,040 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: you know, And I didn't I didn't understand how deeply

671
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: I was offending her. I just I didn't even comprehend

672
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: how um, you know, I had I hadn't had kids myself.

673
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: My son was born, you know, during during the Fresh Prince,

674
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: but the comprehension of when a when a woman is pregnant,

675
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: the level of sensitivity and difficulty and Janet, Janet had

676
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: a difficult pregnancy and all of that. And I'm in

677
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: my next room banging to music right well on set,

678
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: and it was it was Unconsciousness is a terrible enemy.

679
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: And I just didn't know. I didn't know. Um, I

680
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: love Janet Man and it was like I wanted her respect,

681
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: Like she's a you know, stayed trained actress, singer, dancer,

682
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: super talent, right, and I wanted her respect. I wanted

683
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: her to think I was great, and during that time,

684
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: she didn't and I had a negative reaction to that. Um.

685
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: So it was really important to me, you know, after

686
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: I started doing my work, I started, you know, trying

687
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: to understand myself and understand how I'm interacting with people.

688
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: And once I saw clearly my offenses, I just I

689
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: needed it, desperately needed to clear them up. And Janet

690
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: was you know, wide open, and you know, it was

691
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: it was rough phrase it was. It was rough and wrong,

692
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: you know, but it's like, that's what I want to be, man,

693
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: that's I don't want to be beefing with people. But

694
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: like you said, nobody's perfect, and I think too often

695
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: we let ship slide that we're wrong about and not

696
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: say anything right. So I think that's big switching gears

697
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: Bad Boys the franchise. I know you got number you

698
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: got number four coming up, and just talked to Marty.

699
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: I just talked to Martyr. This kind of thinks he's

700
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: an actor. But for the new Bad Boys charge you.

701
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: You've got to be here on this segment where the

702
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: idea Bad Boys come from. Martin actually had the script

703
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: for the first one and Martin brought me in. Okay, right,

704
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: so um yeah, they wanted him to do it with

705
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: Eddie and you know, Martin's sister was like, you should

706
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: do that with Will and you know Martin, Martin called

707
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: me and uh, you know, we said there. We had

708
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: one meeting and you know, the script wasn't the script

709
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: wasn't together. It was originally for Dana Carvey and John Lovitts.

710
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: They were the original Bad Boys. That would have been

711
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: a very different movie. It was Dana Carvey and John

712
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: Lovits and they fell out, and then Jerry Bruckheimer and

713
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: Don Simpson brought it to Martin and then Martin said,

714
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: I won't do it without will, so he brought me

715
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: in and yeah, and it was, you know, the script,

716
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: script wasn't all the way there, but I think what

717
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: happens because we were both on television shows, right, so

718
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: we were used to making the stuff up on the fly. Anyway.

719
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: He had his group of writers. I had my group

720
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: of writers. We had our boys, and we came together

721
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: and we were literally making the scenes day to day

722
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: as we were going on. We had he had his squad,

723
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: I had my squad. We would come, we would do it.

724
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: We was writing the stuff, but you know, on the

725
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: set and then try and do that. And it was

726
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: it was, you know, one of the greatest friendships I've

727
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: ever had in the business. Oh my god, I only

728
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: imagine I'm gonna tell a story I've never told. Love it,

729
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: love it, love it, so please. Martin was newly married,

730
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: so he was like, He's like, well, you know, in Miami,

731
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: it was like I'm not I'm not doing nothing. I'm

732
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: not doing nothing. So this is the first first one,

733
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: the first one newly married. He was like, dude, I

734
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: just don't. It's like I was like, Marty, ma, you

735
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: got it. He was like no, no, no, I was like, dude,

736
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: it's like we gotta go. It's like for the culture.

737
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: They know, like we're the bad boys, like they know.

738
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: It's like life. Yes, it's like come on man. Right,

739
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: So Prince had a club called Glam Slam. Glam Lam Slam.

740
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: Prince had a club in Miami, right, yeah, so you

741
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: can imagine what a Prince club was like. So everywhere

742
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: everything swayed. You gotta have nice hair to get in with.

743
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: You see what I can do. So get Martin. It

744
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: was like Martin, come on, Prince got this is he

745
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: Come on, Martin, come on. He was like all right.

746
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: So we go and Martin is literally sitting there with

747
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: his and he's sitting there and it's it's wild, like

748
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: I've never seen nothing like this club. Right. So we're

749
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: sitting there and there's a there's a balcony that looks

750
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: over onto the dance floor. So we're up in the

751
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: bout and the v I P. We're sitting there, Martin

752
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: sitting and there's like like girls like you just can't,

753
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: you know, even in Miami, you know, right, So the

754
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: girl walks up and stands in front of Martin and

755
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: she's standing there and she's dancing in front of Martin

756
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: and he's like, come on, and she lifts her skirt

757
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 1: up and she has nothing on under and she's asking

758
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: Martin if she wants to have sex in the club.

759
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 1: And I look at Martin, He's like this, why don't

760
00:52:46,000 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: go right on the door? He rut there and I

761
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: have never been out of girl, never been out of

762
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: you still might be in there. Maybe I'm not coming home. Yeah,

763
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: take care. How was it playing Muhammad Ali? And that

764
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: was one of the greatest things I ever did in

765
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: my life. You got to understand when you're playing somebody

766
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: that's great like that, when you play these roles, see

767
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: what happened, Neils, there's a part of you that has

768
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: always changed. Man, when you when you spend some time

769
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: with a character like that, there's a part of you

770
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: that's always changed. You'll be the same. So there's a

771
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: little piece of Alid that's in me for the rest

772
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: of my life, right, you know, you know what, it's

773
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: only one person I was able to do. Jamie yeah, yeah, Jamie.

774
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: Jamie had us roll before we even started. We couldn't

775
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: even stop laughing. Face heard our stomach. Kurt Oh, I'm

776
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: sure that was fun, Jamie King Richard, How important you

777
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: like that role was to be brought to life, Like

778
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: those kinds of stories where you think you know the story.

779
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: I love those where you think you know, but you

780
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: don't really know, you know, and you know he had

781
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: been so vilified and villainized. And I remember the first

782
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: time talking with Venus and Serena, and it was like

783
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: so much love. They love that man, and I was

784
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: it was it didn't fit the image of what I have,

785
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: you know, of the overbearing father that demands his kids.

786
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: And he didn't. He didn't do that. And Venus referred

787
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: to it as the Jedi mind trick. She says, somehow

788
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: he convinced us that we wanted to play tennis. They

789
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 1: had to beg him. She was like he had done

790
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: something where their punishment was they couldn't play tennis right,

791
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: And she said to the point that one time Serena,

792
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: Serena got in trouble and she couldn't play, and she

793
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: went in her room and baled a sock up and

794
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: put rubber bands around it and was hitting it against

795
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: the wall in in her bedroom and somehow he inspired

796
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: them to play, not demanded that they they play, And

797
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: it just changed everything about their um, their relationship. And

798
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: you know, my mother had met him and she was

799
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: telling me how hilarious he was before I before I

800
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: did the film, and it was just not the image

801
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: that I had of him, you know. So, UM, I

802
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: loved being able to set the record straight um about

803
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: Richard Williams. Yeah, he was. He was a really um

804
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: unique teacher and advocate for those girls, well quick hitters.

805
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 1: First thing to come to mind, let us know, if

806
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: you had to pick, if you had to pick, I'll

807
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: give you two, two movies, your two favorite roles you've

808
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: been able to do thus far. Number one is definitely

809
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: Pursued the Happiness. That's his favorite movie. Yeah, Pursue the Happiness.

810
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: It's like that's just one of the ones where everything

811
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: just came together beautifully. Yeah, with my son dude in

812
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: that bathroom, with my actual will Sun Yeah, never forget

813
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: that moment. Pursued Pursuit of Happiness. I think it's like

814
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: the best all around movie I've ever made. It beautiful, right, Um, yeah,

815
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: and there's other ones I like for different for different reasons. Yeah, yeah,

816
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: we just did. Yeah, I think that. I think that's

817
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: that's I'm I'm pursuit of happiness and King Richard was

818
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:32,479
Speaker 1: pretty back to back nights at my joint, both nights

819
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: just Wills over here killing issues being a hip hop head.

820
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 1: What three artists are in? You're playing this right now? Three?

821
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: What three artists? Mathum by the way, I got a

822
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: plan the Manthain by the way to We're yeah. So yeah,

823
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: because I remember you did you did that? It's platinum?

824
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: Is it is it? Is it old school platinum or

825
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: is this new school platinum where they give you for

826
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: for a million? Straight up? Like that means yeah, this

827
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: was time I'm in. I'm not I'm not a rapper up.

828
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: I just did it for joy I know, I mean

829
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: I get that guy. I mean because I sold like

830
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: a million c D no no question, hard copy. People

831
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: had to go buy a hard copy to the store.

832
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: Three million, put money the team you kind of okay,

833
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: I'll give it to I mean it is platin, I'm

834
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: it's it's plack. That's did but not how I did it?

835
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: I got songs big uh man, in my place. It's

836
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: all right. So I just did a thing with Jaden

837
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: and I just put together the old school playlist of

838
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: people that I wanted him to listen to and rock

839
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: Him was first, right, So rock Him was the first

840
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: one in there. Um. Yeah, it's like for him to

841
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: just see where we've been, to feel feel where we're going.

842
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: So I literally just made that playlist. Um, I think

843
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: Mel's verse melling melt on um on the message. I

844
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Speaker 1: put that in there for him. Um, you went way

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Speaker 1: back on that. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's really original. That's

846
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Speaker 1: like that shaped me. Um, and I put together some

847
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Speaker 1: of the old school tapes for back to that's the

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Speaker 1: cast Cold Crushed Brothers. Uh. That literally just made that

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Speaker 1: that playlist. But looking at your son from the outside,

850
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Speaker 1: and I never met and I don't know him, but

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Speaker 1: he gonna dig rock him, Yeah, oh for sure, because

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Speaker 1: it's the substance and love that he loves that. When

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Speaker 1: I say first was it is it rapper hip hop

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Speaker 1: artists to win a Grammy. I'm not sure the proper title,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, first either one first, the first, it's the

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Speaker 1: first of both. However, our platinums are but how does

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Speaker 1: they get it? Yeah, you know first, you know, when

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Speaker 1: you look back on that, you know and and and

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Speaker 1: kind of see what the music is now. But to

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Speaker 1: think you were the first to to earn a Grammy,

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Speaker 1: what does that mean to you? Yo? It's crazy. I

862
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Speaker 1: was just talking to Chuck D. Right, So, Um, the NARIS,

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Speaker 1: the Grammy organization, decided not to televise the category and

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Speaker 1: we boycott, so all of the rappers boycott it, and

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Speaker 1: so we had a boycott party. I was just talking

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Speaker 1: to Chuck D. Chuck D had the line, who gives

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Speaker 1: a funk about a goddamn Grammy? Right, And I was

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Speaker 1: standing next to Chuck D when they announced the winner.

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Speaker 1: I do kind of kind of uh, five dinner guests

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Speaker 1: that are alive? Oh wow, Nelson Mandela first and foremost. Um,

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Speaker 1: five dinner guests, all right, so I would definitely want

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Speaker 1: to sit with Nelson Mandela, Um loud su m hm um.

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Speaker 1: I guess his translator would have to come to that

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Speaker 1: would take a seat. Um, Maya Angelou. I never really

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Speaker 1: got to talk to her. Yeah, Will Diving Yeah, Um,

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Speaker 1: George orwell, um, trying to keep the room interesting. Um

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Speaker 1: that's four right. Um, let me see Mandela. I gotta see.

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Speaker 1: This has to be a good one. Let me say,

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Speaker 1: let me see my angel to look him. Look at

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Speaker 1: Crime and Punishment. He wrote Crime and Punishment. I just

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Speaker 1: read Crime and Punishment and the The Underground Man and

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Speaker 1: like he had something. He had something really interesting and

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Speaker 1: I would only want him to uh debate Mandela some

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Speaker 1: dinner conversation. Yeah, if you could see one guest on

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Speaker 1: our show, who would it be? But you have to

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Speaker 1: help help you get your answer on this show. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: for sure. Now I'm there, I'm there. Have you had

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Speaker 1: Denzel oh ship shut the front door? Absolutely not? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Denzel is a real one, is a real one? Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: Denzel Denzel. Uh, he grabbed me out these last six months.

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Speaker 1: I love Denzel. So when you leaned up, he's real. Real,

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Speaker 1: Danzel is real real. I love to hear that. Man.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time and just really want to tell you, man,

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Speaker 1: we love you when we appreciate you, how important you

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Speaker 1: are to our culture, how important you are to just

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Speaker 1: the movement there. Yeah, ain't going, I'm on it. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate recharged and ready, Yes, yes, is this we got

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Speaker 1: a little gear. He got some gear for you. We're

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Speaker 1: where can they find that a jack all the Smoke

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Speaker 1: dot store, the store fresh geary that was especially designed

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Speaker 1: just for you. Nobody's going to have that one fresh

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Speaker 1: gear And we know you like gear like that. It's

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Speaker 1: one that Okay, okay, but why are you opening the gear?

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Speaker 1: We can announce that. You know, I'm doing my We're

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Speaker 1: doing my dock here. Oh that's right. Absolutely, Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: working together. It's family. It's our family now. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: our family now. Appreciation. And Ellen right here to my

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Speaker 1: right has been trying to get me you get like

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Speaker 1: five years now. So I'm glad we finally did. But again, man,

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Speaker 1: we thank you for your time. We wish you the best.

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Speaker 1: And man, this is you might not see all the

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Speaker 1: smoke no more? Might yea yesterday's price? Yeah you know what,

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Speaker 1: you're casting some showtime basketball YouTube and the hard platform

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Speaker 1: black effects. We'll see y'all. We might not see a'all that, yeah,