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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show. It may not be

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Speaker 1: the most pressing need on offense, but it's up there,

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Speaker 1: especially if James Connor and or Chase Edmonds don't return.

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Speaker 1: We talked the running back position, but first unfortunately, yes,

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Speaker 1: they are the last team standing. It's Cardinals Covered two,

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Speaker 1: episode five thirty six, and it starts now. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Easy Cardinals

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Speaker 1: dot com, Slash podcasts. Going for Hopkins one hand to

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Speaker 1: catch at a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolou and

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Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. Well, everyone who wanted to be able to

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Speaker 1: say the Cardinals loss of the Super Bowl champions got

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Speaker 1: their way. It wasn't what I wanted, MJ. I think

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Speaker 1: I made that perfectly clear. And the days leading up

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Speaker 1: to Super Bowl fifty six and the Rams the last

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Speaker 1: as accomplishing what every team wants to be able to

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Speaker 1: say Super Bowl Champions. Yeah, I was pulling for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed, you know, kind of learn more about

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and Zach Taylor and some of those other players.

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Speaker 1: Obviously in a different conference. Cardinals did play him a

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Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: to show the run. It sets up the pass. And

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow he threw it thirty three times and Matthew

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Speaker 1: three took him thirteen years to win a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: His numbers in the fourth quarter are remarkable. Didn't turn

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Speaker 1: So you got to give them credit. We talked about

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Speaker 1: And if you're the owner of the Rams and Stan Cronkie,

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Speaker 1: they made all the right moves. I will give the

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Speaker 1: Rams credit. It's again not what I was hoping would

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Speaker 1: you know you lost to the team that one at all.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't matter to me. You did split with this

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Speaker 1: wild card game by the Rams. But this was their year.

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Speaker 1: This is what they focused on. It wasn't just to

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Speaker 1: And they did that. They accomplished it. So tip of

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Speaker 1: the cap to the Los Angeles Rams. Cooper Cup, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Donald MVP for you. Now, bird gang, let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: This is a vote that has done what in the

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Speaker 1: but Cooper Cup. It's hard to go wrong with what

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Speaker 1: it was very fitting, you know, kind of a full

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Speaker 1: Thirty six fourth quarter comeback wins and his career regular

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind if Aaron Donald ding ding Ding walked away.

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Speaker 1: And that was I turned on the pregame show what

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Speaker 1: There is nothing left for Aaron Donald to accomplish. This

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Speaker 1: But for me, Aaron Donald is the most dominant defensive

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Speaker 1: Maybe he has some side businesses to where he keep

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Speaker 1: Nothing else, just leave the division, leave the conference. That's

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Speaker 1: in the passing game. And to me, you know, Benjamin

427
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: is very similar to Chase Edmonds. To me, you knows

428
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: five nine two oh seven. He can run between the tackles.

429
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: He's actually pretty uh versatile when it comes to pass protection.

430
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're the safety net when it comes to a quarterback,

431
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: and he can catch the ball to backfield. And I'm

432
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: a big Jonathan Ward fan. I don't think he'll ever

433
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: be the starter, but he's a great backup six ft

434
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: two o two. He's really cut his teeth on special teams.

435
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: But when we got a chance to watch training camp,

436
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: he was getting a lot of carries and I like

437
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: the way he runs. And then I'm kind of intrigued

438
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: with Jaylen Samuels. I like the size six two twenty

439
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: five forty five career starts. According to your sheet over here,

440
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: he has a relationship with the running backs coach, James Saxon,

441
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: so that goes a long way, and we're going to

442
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: see him make the roster. But I think he's an

443
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: insurance policy if you lose Chase Edmonds. Well, you look

444
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: at Samuel's six feet two twenty five, Connor six one

445
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: two thirty three, Edmunds five nine, and it's the relationship

446
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: with James Saxon, So he's aware much like he was

447
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: with James Connor and then the whole NC state with

448
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: general manager Steve Kim and Adrian Wilson. So all of

449
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: that relationships that does play a factor. And I think

450
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: you bring up a nice word as far as being

451
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: interested in or curious about Samuels and his place in

452
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: that running back room depending on what happens I in

453
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: free agency and again with the draft as well. Yeah,

454
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin's on a rookie deal. Jonathan Ward's basically

455
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: the Cardinal's own his rights. When you sign a futurist contract,

456
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: you're pretty pretty much on a one year deal. And

457
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: now when you've got to figure out, you know, with

458
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: Connor going to be twenty seven years old, I mean again,

459
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: usually running backs hit the wall at thirty. As long

460
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: as he can stay healthy and the way he runs,

461
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty impressive that he can play as many

462
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: games as he did, considering he was playing with broken ribs.

463
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: You know, I like to have him all back, but

464
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: prioritize wise. I think you know can step in Jonathan Wards,

465
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: Samuels and Connor. And if you would have asked me

466
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: this conversation going into the last year, I would have said,

467
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: Chase Edmans is the guy that I want to keep

468
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: because great locker room guy. Practice is hard, which to

469
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: me can be contagious. He just hasn't been able to

470
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: stay healthy and I never thought he would be the

471
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: bell cow. But I do like the one two punch

472
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: that they both provide. Unfortunately we didn't see it down

473
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: the stretches as we are all we're hoping for. Before

474
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: we get to Connor and his comments during the Pro Bowl,

475
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: how confidence are you that eno Benjamin is ready? I

476
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: mean he's he's bided his time, he's been the good soldier.

477
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: He's asked for where he can get better, because there

478
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: was there was a stretch there where he might have

479
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: been one and done, and that was after his rookie season.

480
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: But he's value on special teams and he's shown in

481
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: brief stints this past season the ability to run between

482
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: the tackles, not afraid of contact, and then the ability

483
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 1: to catch the ball out of the backfield. So he

484
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: has all the skill set. Now it's okay, can you

485
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: do it? I would say on a consistent base, But

486
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: we have confidence in you to be able to step

487
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: in and be that guy, not just in a pinch,

488
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: but be a part of the plan going into that

489
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: week's game. Well after his first year, I just you know,

490
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 1: there's the term they use a jag, just a guy.

491
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: But after his conversation with Steve Kim, as he told

492
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: us on the Red Sea Report there in training camp,

493
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: the general manager believed in him, and I think the

494
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: head coach had to figure out a way to use him.

495
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: And once he got to camp, he worked hard and

496
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: I saw some upside. I've always thought Jonathan Ward was

497
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: a better option, but they do two different things, and

498
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: yes they both play on team's wards a little bit

499
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: bigger early, there's there there's a way, you know, similar

500
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: to O two to two oh seven. But it just

501
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: seems like Jonathan Ward's a little bit bigger. But he's

502
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: earned he's earned the trust from me. He knows what's

503
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: at stake here. This is his opportunity. If they don't

504
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: retain Chase Edmonds. Obviously he's gonna have to compete with

505
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: Ward and sam Us, But if you asked me going

506
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: into training camp last year. I don't know if I

507
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: could have counted on the guy, but what I was

508
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: able to see him then, just him coming out of

509
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: his shell and working harder and just waiting for his opportunity.

510
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: I have a lot more confidence in you know, Benjamin,

511
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: maybe I did a year ago. Here's what Benjamin did

512
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: and his nine games of being available meaning he was active,

513
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: thirty four carries for eighteen yards and his first career touchdown,

514
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: plus six catches for forty two yards, ninety five snaps

515
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: on offense. So again not a lot, but someone that

516
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: because Connor missed a couple of games, Edmunds missed five games,

517
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: you needed that number three and Edmonds. Now the question

518
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: is can you go from a number three to a

519
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: number two and keep making that progress from a seventh

520
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: round draft pick to where you were inactive and just

521
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: kind of out of sight, out of mind except for

522
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: Arizona State sund of a hands that wondering where is

523
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin to this year? Hey, you have a role

524
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: on special teams, meaning you're active and if needed, you

525
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: can play on offense. The moment that I was convinced

526
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 1: is when he ran over drey Kirkpatrick like usually some

527
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: guys now he has obviously hasn't had the touches and

528
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: targets to where he's going to try to run around someone.

529
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: But to me, he was able to put his you know,

530
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: his shoulder down and run him over, and that tells

531
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: me he was playing with confidence. Yeah, I mean, I

532
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: think it will come down to Samuel's just because he's

533
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: got more experienced than Benjamin. But again, I think James

534
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: Connor could be the Belle Coyle in this offense. And

535
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: we know that Connor wants to be here or as

536
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: he told our colleague Danny Serek and Las Vegas during

537
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl practice, quote would love to continue with the Cardinals.

538
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: But then he added, I'm a free agent, so I'm

539
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: excited to see what's next. I'm a man of face,

540
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: so I know it will all work out for me

541
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: end quote. So there is an interest on his parts,

542
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: and I'm sure the Cardinals have an interest in bringing back.

543
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: We heard Cliff Kingsbury the day after the Wildcard game

544
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: he wants James Connor back, he wants Chase Edmonds back,

545
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: And I do think that physicality and toughness that James

546
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: Connor displayed rubbed off on his teammates. And then the

547
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: fact that we learned he turned down the opportunity and

548
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: he mentioned it to Danny as well in Las Vegas.

549
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: He did not want to get a painkiller shot. Quote

550
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: for safety and health reasons. End quote. Well, we know

551
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: what happened with Tyrod Taylor, and that's part of it

552
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 1: that you're not sure, and you know what, all toughened

553
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: it out and James Connor did only played fourteen snaps

554
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: in that game, but he was on the football field

555
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: and you could just tell he did not want to

556
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: be a spectator in that game. He wanted to be

557
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: able to play. Yeah, again, not a lot of guys

558
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: played well in that game. But I took my cap

559
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: to him because I've had and I don't know how

560
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: many ribs are broken. Sometimes it's the cartilage that hurts.

561
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: And yes, he did not take any medicine. There's there's

562
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: devices you could put, you know, like a rib cage

563
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: and all that, but it's difficult when you know somebody.

564
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: And I recall when he got hit his face and

565
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: how he's grimacing going to the sidelines. I mean, he

566
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: took a he took a hit, right to the ribs.

567
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a lot of meat around there.

568
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: I just you know, listen, he's earned the right to

569
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: be a free agent. I'm not asking for a hometown discount,

570
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: but I just feel like this offense really tailors to

571
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: what they want to do, and so, you know, the

572
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: grass isn't always greener, but he has a right to

573
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: go out there. And you know, again, at twenty seven

574
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: years old, I don't think anybody's going to give him

575
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: a four or five year deal. Usually you try to

576
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: get out of these contracts after two or three years.

577
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: But I just hope he realizes that this offense fits him,

578
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: and I think he does, and he's got great chemistry

579
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: with Kyler in the offensive line. I'm just I just

580
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: hope that you know, there's at all it takes his

581
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: one team to while you and give you just a

582
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: huge signing bonus, and he's going to do what's best

583
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: for him and his family, which I clearly understand. There's

584
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: not a lot of times that you get a chance to,

585
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, call your shot. He was a free agent.

586
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals Signum took a chance on him, and he proved

587
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: what he was worth. So but I just think he

588
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: fits his offense even better than David Johnson did, even

589
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: though under airing and he just hey day. I wasn't

590
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: a big Kenyan Drake fan. The second year when they

591
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: gave eight point two. I thought he was really affective.

592
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: When he came in and played eight games, he was

593
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: trying to hit the home run. This guy is a baller.

594
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: This guy's a bowling ball, and I think it gravitates

595
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: to what they wanted to be as a physical football team.

596
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: In the trenches. Connor led the team in rushing yards,

597
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: scrimmage yards, rushing touchdowns, total touchdowns, and his ability to

598
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: catch the ball out of the backfield averaged a career

599
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: best ten point yards per reception and yards after catch

600
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: ten point zero five yards after catch MJ that ranked

601
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: third best in the National Football League. And a lot

602
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: of his passes were screens out in the flat to

603
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: where two yard pass and then the rest is all

604
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: James Connor. And we saw a lot of one handed grabs.

605
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 1: So I would love James Connor to come back again.

606
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: When you look at the running back position, it's not

607
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: a high priority position, but you look at the player.

608
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: He is a high priority player for me in a

609
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: position to where a lot of people say you can

610
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: find a running back anywhere free agency draft because they're

611
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: short lifespan. But I do think the Cardinals may have

612
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: found something with James Connor to where you can extend

613
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: this relationship another couple of seasons. Yeah, and again they'll

614
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: have possibly I want to say eight or nine picks.

615
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: Right now, they've got eight eight, Okay, and that's with

616
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: three compis projected, nothing official yet, but right now they've

617
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: got eight and those are more third day But you

618
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: can also bring in an undrafted free agent. Usually you

619
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: bring six guys to camp. Maybe a guy that maybe

620
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: didn't play last year opted out, so you can always

621
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: add to it. But he's definitely a priority, and you know,

622
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out, then I kind of focus

623
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: on Chase Edmonds and then just try to hopefully you

624
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: get something out of Benjamin Ward and Samuels. I'm not

625
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: down on Chase. It's just if you had to ask

626
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: me one of the two, just based on what I witnessed,

627
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: I'll go with Connor. You look at what might be

628
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: available on the free agent markets as far as running backs,

629
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle, Rashad Penny, Darryl Williams, players that the Cardinals

630
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: are very familiar with. Leonard Fournetts is due to become

631
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: an unrestricted free agent, Melvin Gordon, who's twenty eight. J

632
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: D McKissick another twenty eight year old. So there are

633
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: some names out there you just want as far as

634
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: what they're asking for versus how they fit within this offense.

635
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: And then when you're picking number twenty three running back,

636
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: depending on who you like, could be someone. I mean,

637
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: the Cardinals were linked with Nagi Harris a year ago

638
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: and they were picking sixteenth, So now you drop into

639
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: the twenties maybe. I mean Harris last year was picked

640
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: twenty fourth by the Steelers. I mean, it wouldn't be

641
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: on my list of positions, It wouldn't be running back

642
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: as far as top three, top five, but it would

643
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: be something to consider if there's a running back out

644
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: there that either drops or you're very fond of and

645
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: you can see being a major focal point within this offense. Yeah,

646
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: I mean the names you listed Sony Michelle twenty six,

647
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: four Net twenty seven, Penny twenty six, Gordon twenty eight,

648
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: Williams twenty six, MKISSKT twenty eight. Yeah, I don't I

649
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: don't see them signing a running back free agency. I

650
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: just they you gotta retain your own guys, and you

651
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: gotta think they're between Connor and Edmundsen. One is going

652
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: to be here and then you develop, you know, Benjamin

653
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: and Ward. Yeah, I mean, I still think you can't

654
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: find running backs in the middle rounds. Even though Nagie

655
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 1: Harris twenty four, he's really well, Travis Etn he pretty

656
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: much missed the entire season, Clyde Edwards, Hilaire just kind

657
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: of been okay. Josh Jacobs hasn't been able to stay healthy.

658
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to use the first round pick.

659
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: But you're right, last year it was possible maybe they

660
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 1: moved down, but if Collins wasn't on the board based

661
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: on best available player, Harris was ranked right there. And

662
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: when you look at what the Cardinals might do at

663
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: twenty three or that running back position, I mean the

664
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: names that are out there, Isaiah Spiller, Breeze Hall, Kyrie

665
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: and Williams, Rashad White who had a great Senior Bowl

666
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: right down the street Arizona states. There are others some

667
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: names out there, whether it's a Day one, Day two

668
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: or Day three pick, or you like you said, un

669
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: drafted rookie free agent. They're going to add to that

670
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: running back position, and it's just a question of how

671
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: many pieces do they add in the event that a

672
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 1: James Connor or Chase Edmonds are not here next season. Yeah.

673
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: I like Rachad White. I thought he played well this

674
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: year at the Issue and then he really played well

675
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: to Senior Bowl. He's got good size. I mean, he's

676
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: a good running back. I don't know. I don't think

677
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: he's going to go in the first or second round. Um,

678
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see, but I definitely think

679
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: that he'll get drafted. And it's nice to see that

680
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: the Sun Devils have eight invites to the Combine and

681
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 1: they haven't had they haven't had that in the years.

682
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: So we'll see a couple of linemen get drafted and

683
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: we'll see it. But I definitely think they're gonna have

684
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: some guys drafted this year, which is really good. Free

685
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: issue Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday. Probably partner of

686
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals overall. Looking at that running back position,

687
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: and yes, you count Kyler Murray, I'll beachest to the punch. MG.

688
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: You have to consider Kyler Murray when this team runs

689
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: the football. But the season totals four point two yards

690
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: per carry ranked twenty second best in the league, tenth best, however,

691
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: when it came to rushing yards per game at just

692
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: over one hundred and twenty two and then twenty three

693
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns tied for the third most. And that's an

694
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: area where James Connor played a large factor because short yardage,

695
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: a lot of red zone touchdowns, not a lot of

696
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: red zone as far as not a lot of long

697
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: runs from the running back position twenty plus, but inside

698
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: the red zone being able when the field shrinks, having

699
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: someone in the backfield that you can turn, hand the

700
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: ball off to or pitch two and they'll let them

701
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: take it into the end zone for six. And the

702
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: stat that we pointed out all second half of the season,

703
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: you don't have to run the ball a lot as

704
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: far as number of yards, but you do have to

705
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: show it. I e. Rams Bengals neither one great running

706
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: the football, but you have to be able to show

707
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: that you can run the ball. Thirty rushing attempts Cardinals

708
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: nine and oh when hit that magic thirty number in

709
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Yeah, and they're averaging twenty nine two

710
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: rushing attempts, so they're close. And you know, obviously when

711
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: you're seven to zero and ten and two, there were

712
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: times where they are able to run the football in

713
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, kind of run out the clock and

714
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: then when you're trailing, you got to throw it more.

715
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: And we just didn't see the offense. I thought the

716
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: offensive line and the quarterback took a step back when

717
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: it came to the last month of the season. Twenty

718
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: twenty one meant to say twenty twenty one. As far

719
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: as thirty or more rushing attempts, the Cardinals were nine

720
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: and oh. But this team and say what you want

721
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: about Cliff Kingsbury and his air raid offense as they

722
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: use air quotes, but two thousand rushing yards and twenty

723
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns and back to back seasons, first time in

724
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: team history since nineteen forty eight nineteen forty nine that

725
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have gone two thousand rushing yards or more

726
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: and twenty rushing touchdowns or more. So every team has

727
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: to be able to run the ball a little bit.

728
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: You need that quarterback that one in two playmakers as

729
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: far as being able to catch the ball, but being

730
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: a successful offense you have to be able to have

731
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: a run game. The Cardinals have shown it the past

732
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: two seasons. Yeah, and you know, we'll see who's going

733
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: to be the right guard. I mean right now they have,

734
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, four guys under contract. I don't think Humph's

735
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: going away and either Beacham's got under contract for one

736
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: more year. They just got to get better in the interior. Obviously,

737
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: the addition of Rodney Hudson will will you know, obviously

738
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: and increase now that he's been in the system for

739
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: a year. But yeah, I think it's really a testament

740
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: to Kingsbury allowing input from his coaches. And we know

741
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: Sean Coogler has a big voice there in the week

742
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: when it comes as a game plan, and if you

743
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: watch the games are our times, you know where he

744
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: can just walk over to Cliff and say, hey, I

745
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: see something here, let's run the football. So I think,

746
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, the addition of cooler has really made a difference.

747
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: But they got to get better. They got to finish better.

748
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: And you could say that for both sides of the ball,

749
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: being able to run the ball effectively. It's not the

750
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: yards per carry all the time, but just show it

751
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: to allow the defense to react and have to understand

752
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: that it's just not throwing the football forty five fifty times.

753
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: Well it's really I mean it's night and day when

754
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: hops on the field, and I got no problem with

755
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: Kyler targeting him, But it's more just it opens up

756
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: the play action if you're if you're able to win

757
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: into the line of scrimmage and you know they can't

758
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. And maybe you know what Colt

759
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: McCoy did with the screen game. It kind of slows

760
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: on the defense, but to show it and don't get

761
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: behind the sticks. You know, all of a sudden third

762
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: and two you got you got options. Third and thirteen,

763
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: you really got one option, and that's either throw a

764
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: screen pass and played for field position or try to

765
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: get a first down. So yeah, that it's to me

766
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: it coincides, and I do think you know, when you

767
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: were able to run the football, it just opens the

768
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: thing up. With Kyler. We know he's making more decisions

769
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: from inside the pocket. We know that the arm strengths there.

770
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: Didn't see that in that Rams game. I think he

771
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: was rattled and they got into his head and rightfully so.

772
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: Watching Aaron Donald again during the Super Bowl so little

773
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: thing's got to get better. But again, I do think

774
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: you have to show it to open things up on

775
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: the outside. Rams showed it, Bengals showed it. But between

776
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: those two teams in Super Bowl fifty six, they ran

777
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: the ball forty three times. And we're talking about Cardinals

778
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: hitting that thirty rushing attempt mark regular season versus postseason.

779
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: But you do what you have to do to win

780
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: the ball game. And on third and one, fourth and one,

781
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: Bengals could not get that one yard on third down.

782
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: Of course, when you've got number ninety nine on the

783
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: other side of the field makes life a little bit

784
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: more difficult, a lot more difficult. But running the football

785
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: you have to be able to do it to have

786
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: sustained success during the course of a regular season and

787
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 1: a postseason run. And any offensive line will tell you, hey,

788
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: put it on us, you know. And obviously they've learned

789
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: to block for Kyler Murray knowing that he can take

790
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: off at any time. But as an offensive line, you

791
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: want you want to be physical. You want to let

792
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: that team know that you know, we're going to run

793
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: the ball and we're going to run it down to

794
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: your throat, And to me, that's where the physicality comes

795
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: in from the offense, and then all of a sudden,

796
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: it spreads the defense when you're when you're able to

797
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: line up and test someone's will where you're pushing them back.

798
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: That's how you gain respect from that standpoint. But again,

799
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, they may have to put

800
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: a safety in the box. They're gonna go with a

801
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: five man rush, and that's where Kyler and the offense

802
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: can you know, start throwing the ball. So but I

803
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: think it's more of a mentality. If you're physical running

804
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: the ball, you don't need to run it forty times

805
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: a game. You probably need to run it between twenty

806
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: and thirty. But also it allows your defense to kind

807
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: of counterpoint where we're going to be physical too. So

808
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: I think it's really a downward spiral effect. If you're

809
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: able to win in the trenches, it creates camaraderie knowing

810
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: that we can literally line up and run the football

811
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: and they can't stop us. It's gonna be a busy offseason,

812
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: and it's an offseason for the Cardinals that has begun.

813
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: I mean it's been weeks now as far as the

814
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: Cardinals being out of the playoffs and looking forward to

815
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two and hopefully, hopefully make it three years

816
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: in a row in which the host team holds that

817
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: Lombardi Trophy at the end of Super Bowl and the

818
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: Cardinals are the ones in Super Bowl fifty seven. Keep

819
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: that Lombardi Trophy within the NFC West. MJ's that's where

820
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: you can be positive that the Rams want it. You're

821
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: in the best division in all of football, and the

822
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: NFC West and twenty twenty one and reigns supreme. And

823
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: we'll talk about this probably the entire offseason. Just when

824
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: it comes to the NFC. We don't know what Rogers

825
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: is gonna do, you know, you know, clearly, we'll see

826
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: what the Bucks do. I gotta think they're gonna go

827
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: after a veteran quarterback. The rumors are they're doing their

828
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: due diligence on Deshaun Watson. Could be Jimmy Garoppolo, and

829
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: then you've got Dak Prescott. But then you got Kyler

830
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: Murray and Trey Lance. You know, Joe Montana said they

831
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: should keep Garoppolo. I think they made that decision. We'll

832
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: see what happened with Russell Wilson. So in the AFC

833
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: is kind of like, uh, you know, facing the New

834
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: York New York Yankees lineup here, there's only two or

835
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks that I would I mean, Dak Prescott's you know,

836
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: he's got to win in the playoff like Kyler does.

837
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: But there's not a lot of quarterbacks that I would

838
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: take over Kyler Murray. We're in the AFC. I could

839
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: probably put him four or five. Oh, unless Deshaun Watson

840
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: changed his conferences. But yeah, I mean, I'm I'm really

841
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: curious to see, you know, because that this is the time.

842
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: You know, Kylo's on his rookie deal. Nothing going on

843
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: there right now. I think he's a proven year for

844
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: both him and the head coach going in the year four.

845
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: But this is when you got to cash in, just

846
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: like the Seahawks did, the Ravens did, the Bills did

847
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen, and you know, hopefully the Browns feel

848
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: better about Baker Mayfield going into the next year. And

849
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: we'll leave that discussion on that note right there. As

850
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: far as the off season, because there is going to

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Speaker 1: be plenty to cover, whether we get closer to free agency,

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Speaker 1: closer to the draft, and a bunch of new faces

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Speaker 1: coming and perhaps some faces going as well. That's that's

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Speaker 1: what this offense is. I mean this offseason, I should say,

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Speaker 1: as far as turnover, because it is very hard to

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Speaker 1: find consistent rosters in the National Football League. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're going to have the NFL combine this year, and

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Speaker 1: usually that's where general managers are. You know, you'll see

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Speaker 1: him in a lobby or maybe they're they're in their

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Speaker 1: suite a meeting with agents. And just like the Matthew

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Speaker 1: Stafford trade was done, nothing can be official until the

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Speaker 1: league season. So I think we're going to see some

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Speaker 1: movement on the quarterbacks because the Niners technically owned the

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Speaker 1: rights of Jimmy Garoppolo, so we'll see. But again, those

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Speaker 1: deals can be discussed because if you're a team like

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Speaker 1: the Bucks, they're not gonna you know, look at Kyle Trask,

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Speaker 1: and I know that Mike Evans thinks he's going to

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Speaker 1: be a good quarterback. They're not drafting quarterbacks, so they

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Speaker 1: got to figure it out, and teams want to start

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Speaker 1: planning for that. So we could have some trades, just

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Speaker 1: like the Cardinals and DeAndre Hopkins, but because of COVID,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't able to come in and take a physical,

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Speaker 1: so I do think once we get past the combine,

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Speaker 1: whether rumors come out or not, you're going to see

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Speaker 1: teams jockeying for a position, who's available, and what's the price.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun and we'll have

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Speaker 1: it all right here. And on that note, we will

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Speaker 1: put a lid on This edition of Cardinals Covered two

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Speaker 1: Mike Drecky. I'm Greg Riel Loup. We'll talk to you

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