1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Well, 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: fentanyl is killing thousands in California, all across the country, 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: pouring in from Mexico and just a few grains will 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: lead to your death. And a lot of teenagers are 6 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: getting pills online that they think are adderall or percocet, 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: and turns out they're fentanyl and they're dying. And so 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: the Assembly Republicans in California are desperately trying to get 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: a bill, series of bills passed to address all this 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: and put these fentanyl pushers in prison at some point, 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: and it's been blocked by the Democratic run Public Safety Committee. 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you may have heard our interview yesterday with Matt Cappaluto, 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: whose daughter Alexandra died after ingesting what she thought was 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: an opioid, but it was fentanyl and killed her one pill. 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: And he's been pushing for Alexandra's Law, which will go 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: after people that deal fentanyl, whether they know it or not. 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: You know, the first time you do it and somebody dies, okay, 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: but the next time you can be charged with homicide. 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: That bill got supported by Democrats that got amended. In fact, 20 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: twenty one out of the state's forty state senators were 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: supporting this version of the bill, but the Assembly round, 22 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: the Senate Public Safety Committee was killing it. 23 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: There is a crack of light. Is it really think 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: or is it posturing? 25 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: We're going to talk press release from Assembly Republicans today 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: says that there's going to be some special hearings on 27 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: some other fentanyl bills, and we're going to talk to 28 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: assembly Woman Laura. 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Davies from Orange County about what this means. Laurie, Welcome 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: to the John and Ken Show. 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: Thanks guys, appreciate you having me. 32 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: Well, is this serious that they're going to put on 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: a special hearing to look at these fentanyl bills that 34 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: are being discussed. 35 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: Yes, I think we're actually going to see that happen. 36 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: I think we're able to put enough of fire underneath 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: their feet to get them to move. I mean, it's 38 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: just been shameful, you know, not hearing these bills and 39 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 3: then to even push them all the way to basically 40 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: next year. So we really you know, we worked hard, 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: and we negotiated, and we were able to get them 42 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 3: to get those six bills that they were going to 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: wait and push back and have them heard on Thursday. 44 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: They were not even going to have a hearing for 45 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: these bills. 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: No, no, what the Assembly a chair for Public Safety 47 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: said is, you know, basically, reform is not putting them 48 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: behind bars, especially we're talking dealers, murders, and so they 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: said they were going to just put them aside, deal 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: with stakeholders and figure out new ways to reform. And 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: so that's why they were going to put them aside. 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 3: And we know how quickly people are dying, how many 53 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 3: are dying, you know, one hundred and fourteen a week. 54 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: Can you imagine how many will die before that would 55 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: have happened. So we were able to negotiate and basically, 56 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: you know, say listen, this has got to happen. We 57 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 3: had we had a press conference on Monday, had the 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: parents come out speak and I think they really helped 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: a lot. So you know, we're holding them, you know, 60 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: to their word come Thursday. So we want to make 61 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: sure everybody out there is going to be doing the 62 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: same and they can call, they can call and make 63 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: sure that these builds are hurt on Thursday as well 64 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,559 Speaker 3: as they are passed. I mean again, it's so irresponsible. 65 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got this blanket insistence never to pass another 66 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: law that puts anybody in prison, no matter how terrible 67 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: the crime is. And that I mean, and there really 68 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: isn't another option here, And. 69 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: They don't want to add any more penalties or enhancements 70 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: because that only makes the prison terms longer, and then 71 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: want that. 72 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: It makes me crazy. Is all all this vague nonsense 73 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: about well, other ways of reform. There isn't anything else 74 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: you can do. You've got to lock up a bad 75 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: guy so he doesn't sell the fentanyl anymore and kill people. 76 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: It's the only thing you can do to him is 77 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: lock them up. There is no other way. 78 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: Well exactly, And I'm going to tell you what's even 79 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: worse than that. I had a bill abe thirteen sixty 80 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 3: two which would mandate to have drug education into the schools, 81 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: and believe it or not, they said, well, we'll put 82 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: it under the health category of curriculum. But we just 83 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: had We went ahead and we updated that in twenty nineteen, 84 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: so we won't be updating it for ten years. So 85 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: basically we could put that education in there in twenty 86 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: twenty nine. 87 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: They wouldn't even put an education about fentonel. Well why 88 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: not correct, we have to wait. That doesn't put anybody 89 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: in prison. 90 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: Really, no, no, it doesn't. Again, it's seamful. It's irresponsible. 91 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: And the bottom line is, and we know how many laws, 92 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: executive laws that Governor Newton pushed through, there's no reason 93 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 3: they couldn't say, you know what, this is going to 94 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: be mandated curriculum. Let's vote an emergency vote and put 95 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: this through right now. So this education begins, say. 96 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: Nick, all right, all right, but this really makes me 97 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: wonder what's up because you you could use the education 98 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: thing as a fig leaf. It's like, okay, we'll go 99 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: along with with education in the schools, right reinforced to 100 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: the kids that you don't buy a percocet or add 101 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: or all online or from a guy in the alley, 102 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: just don't ever do that because a lot of these 103 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: are laced with fentonel. So why don't they want to 104 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: do That's what's the danger there? Like whose payroll are 105 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: they on? 106 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's a great question. And that's what 107 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: we keep asking. We're like, you know, this is irresponsible, 108 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: but it makes no sense. We have you know, we 109 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: have the solutions here, but we also know that the 110 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: solution is stopping all of this sentinel coming in on 111 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: the border. We've got to stop the dam and the flow, 112 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: and we also need to make sure that we get 113 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: the addicts the help they need. But we also have 114 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: to put the dealers who are murderers behind bars. All right, Yeah, 115 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: that would do it. So listen to there. 116 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'm extremely skeptical of the way the State 117 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: Senate operates. Why would there be twenty one state senator 118 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: in favor of these fentanyl bills, but the five Democrats 119 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: on the Public Safety Committee are all against it. So 120 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: why does the leadership put all the anti sentinel bill 121 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: people on the committee to block all these new laws 122 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: so they could say, oh, well, I'd vote for it, 123 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: but it doesn't come out of committee. That sounds like 124 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: they're pulling a scam on everybody. 125 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: Well, they definitely know that, you know, they definitely know 126 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: that if they can put certain people on it, they 127 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: also have, you know, certain philosophies. And again, nobody should 128 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: go behind bars no matter what they do. So those 129 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 3: that are sitting on the Public Safety Committee, but that 130 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: is their pro. 131 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: Twenty one have co sponsored this bill, including you know, 132 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: a bunch of Democrats. So these Democrats that are sponsoring 133 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: the bill, they're not pushing to get this committee to 134 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: release it or to get this committee. These committee assignments 135 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: changed put rational people on there. Makes me think they're 136 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: not sincere, that this is this is a scam going on, 137 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: it a sleight of hand. 138 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: Well, one thing I can tell you is again is 139 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: we do have we do have support with a lot 140 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: of the Democrats. We've got both Democrats and Republican bills 141 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: that are you know, basically not being heard, so we're 142 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: working together on that. 143 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: Is there a way to get it so the full 144 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: Senate votes on it without using the committee? Is there 145 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: some kind of emergency procedure? 146 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: Yes, Actually, what you can do is warp the bill. 147 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: And that was actually one of the things we're thinking about. 148 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: A bill technically doesn't have to go through committee. You 149 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: could take a bill and take it to the floor 150 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: and ask to have it work, which means you vote 151 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: on it right then and there. What's the word, Well 152 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: that could happen you warf it. 153 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: Worf it like right like like like uh like w 154 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: h A r F wharf w O r F w 155 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: O r F. You could wharf the bill. I never 156 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: I never heard that term. So any of these Democrats 157 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: who have co sponsored the bill, they could wharf the 158 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: bill and have the full Senate vote on it, and 159 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: then it would pass because they already have twenty one 160 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: co sponsors out of forty senators. 161 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: Right, But you're not going to see them take that 162 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: because you do have when you're you know, when you're 163 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: up there, you've got the pressure coming from your speaker, 164 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: you've got the pressure coming from other colleagues. So it 165 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: is an option. We even did that, you know, passed 166 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: with the gas bill, trying to do that, but they 167 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: wouldn't hear it. 168 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: Uh huh. Now can a Republican do this? You have 169 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: to be in the majority to pull this wharf maneuver. 170 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: No, you can do that. And again we did try 171 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 3: doing that, and what they did is they said, well, 172 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: table it and then they voted to not have it. 173 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 3: Actually worked, so you tried to. 174 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: Do that, but they were able to block it anyway. Correct, Well, 175 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,479 Speaker 1: this is devious, Yes, this is really this is designed. 176 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm just vicious of everything here. There's another story. There's 177 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: got to be another story. Do you know what the 178 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: other story is? And you just can't say it. 179 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: No, Honestly, we don't know what the other story is. 180 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: I just know that you know that they just have 181 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: a philosophy that they don't want to put people behind bars, 182 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: and they've got to come up with some other type 183 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: of reform. And that's really the bottom lines. 184 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: No such thing though, it's just fentonal dealers. Maybe what's 185 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: the soft spot for fentanyl dealers who are killing teenagers? 186 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: There is any and there is an any's and that's 187 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: the whole question. And that's why we really need the 188 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: help of the public with these bills. We need them 189 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: to call the Public Safety Committee and this whole weekend 190 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: have bombarred their phones and just say these bills need 191 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: to be heard on Thursday. No, it's ends or buts, 192 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: and these bills need to be supported and go through. 193 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so this happens next Thursday. Yes, Okay, we're going 194 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: to be on top of this and maybe we'll talk again. Laurie, 195 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on now. 196 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: I appreciate all your help. Thank you. 197 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: That's a simply woman. 198 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: Laurie Davies from Orange County, a Republican with the news 199 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: that at least they're going to get some hearings on 200 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: some of the bills that Republicans have been proposing in 201 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: Sacramento to deal with the fentanyl crisis. The Democrat answer 202 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: tends to be nothing that adds jail time and just 203 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: more arcan please more markan. 204 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: Right, except for the Democrat senators who have co sponsored 205 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: the bill, the Alexandra's Law Bill, right right, So there 206 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: is a majority to pass this and a lot of 207 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: them are Democrats. So why don't they wharf it wharfit 208 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: or you know, see, you know, you remember we went 209 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: through this before then we have we have yeah, same 210 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: guy too. Uh, history just repeats itself, all right, more 211 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: coming up Johnny Ken's show. 212 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: And you're listening to John and Ken on demand from KI. 213 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to get you too worked up 214 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 2: here and get everybody alarmed, but the Alsigundo Times is 215 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: just issued a bulletin. We have a new omicron coronavirus 216 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: variant that's made its way to LA and it's called arcturus. 217 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you. 218 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: That's the word. 219 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: Arctoris what's that reference to XBB dot one dot one 220 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: six arcturus. That's the omicron coronavirus subvariant. It is XBB 221 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: dot one dot one six they're calling it Arcturus. 222 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: Oh, it's the brightest star of the constellation. Booties booty coot. Yes, 223 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how to pronounce. 224 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: It's been linked to an upswing in cases in India 225 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: and Los Angeles County has just discovered and guess what, 226 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 2: there is a new rare. 227 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: Symptom associated with octaoris. So you're ready for it? What 228 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: it's pink eye? Ever have pink eye? 229 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: No? 230 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: No? Have you? Debra Mark ever had pink eye? Sorry? 231 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: I missed that because I. 232 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 5: Have somebody in here. 233 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: Chris was crawling all over, Chris was dealing. They had 234 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: nothing to do. They stand in there. But pink I 235 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: ever had pink eye? Yes? 236 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 5: And I I I don't have pink eye right now, 237 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 5: but I do have an inflammation, so I am taking 238 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 5: eye drop. But it's not pink devis. I've had it before, though. 239 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 5: It's miserable. 240 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: Ark Touris is a Greek word meaning guardian or keeper 241 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: of the bear. 242 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know why they why they were using 243 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: the Greek alphabet. Now they've switched to constellations. Now it's 244 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 2: Greek characters constellations. I don't understand. Well, it's even more infectious. 245 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: Than the current dominant coronavirus strain in the US. They 246 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: always say that everyone is more infectious. It's it's another 247 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: everybody's got it already, so to uh because they put 248 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: on the story from the beginning Luke Money and Rong 249 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: goong Lin the second they're on the coronavirus desk for 250 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: the time, so. 251 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: They got to put out this new story today. 252 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: And also there was one yesterday that apparently there is 253 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: another vaccine coming. 254 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: If you wanted a booster, are you guys going to 255 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: do it? No? No, neither. 256 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: Maybe in the fall off I do the flu. I might, 257 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: yeah too, aren't. Don't they need a vaccine for this arcturus? 258 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: What's what's probably getting a vaccine for the old virus. 259 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: They think that the. 260 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: New vaccine is covering all the omicron variants. I would 261 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: assume Arcturus is. 262 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: One of them. So that's what I've read. I'm supposed 263 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: to cover of the omicron variant. You if I don't 264 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: have enough antibodies by now to help. 265 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 5: Remember when I was a vaccine chaser back in the day, 266 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 5: three years you crazy. 267 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: You were shoving elderly people out of the way. I was. 268 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: I was desperate. You were cheated for that shot. I 269 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: was so happy when I got it. He's in fake ideas, 270 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: and well I wouldn't. 271 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 5: You might have it get all these shots, that's right, 272 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 5: So I'm glad that I'm maybe, I. 273 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: Don't know, you never know, with all your weak vegan foods. Yeah, 274 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: it's just to save you, yes, with that, with that 275 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: immune system. 276 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: They're not sure how many they're really The latest booster 277 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: is for older Americans primarily. They're not saying that thirty five, 278 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: forty forty five year olds to drun out and get it. 279 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: So it's probably for. 280 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: The I put in the category of the people still 281 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: wearing masks are probably going to go get it. 282 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: So another guy today just crack me up. I get it. 283 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: Wanding around outside by the beach with his mask on. 284 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: Somebody reminded me an emailer did that when this thing 285 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: was crazy three years ago. Exactly three years ago April 286 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty. Is we were really in the first 287 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: stages of the craziness, with the shutdowns and everything. That 288 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: there was somebody, I think they were from scripts institute 289 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: that was worked up over people going to the beach 290 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: because the sea breezes could spread the virus. Around faster, 291 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: And that's true. I remember reading that somewhere at the time, 292 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: and that's somebody from scripts. Huh, yeah, that supposed it was. 293 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: I think the Times interviewed her. Was a woman that 294 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: was a researcher there, and she was concerned about the 295 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: beaches because the ocean breezes could really spread that virus around, 296 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: you know, from one blanket to the next side. 297 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: You think about the looiness of that time. Did you 298 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: see there's a Senate committee that has issued a report 299 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: on the origin of the COVID virus and they had 300 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: that's right, I did mind. That's right. Are you reminded 301 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: me of that story? Yes, yes, they have pinned it down 302 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: to that lab. They're back to the Wuhan lab. 303 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're claiming the Chinese came up with a 304 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: with a vaccine. 305 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: Well, this was not even big news yet. In December 306 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen, they were working on the first started 307 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: hearing about COVID. We didn't have with COVID do so 308 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: they knew what happened, and they knew where it came from, 309 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: and and all this hullabaloo that it came from an 310 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: animal and it's racist to say that it came from 311 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: that Chinese lab. That's all garbage. It was all lies, 312 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: intentional lies on the part of the Chinese government. And 313 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: then what's the thing they think? Oh, I don't have 314 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: it in front of me. 315 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard to get the mainstream progressive media 316 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: to ever admit this. Well, I don't think this is 317 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: just a truth that's been there. Yeah, I started in 318 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: a lab. It's not a crazy conspiracy. No, And and 319 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna find this thing. They have to 320 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: wait till after Oh here it's COVID origin story. 321 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: But it just give me, just give me. Yeah, we 322 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: got to do the news and I'll come back to 323 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: do this story anyway. I just didn't get to it. Yeah, 324 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: because this is this is a big deal. This is 325 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: like the definitive explanation for what happened, and it's in 326 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: this Senate report and and uh, you want to get 327 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: the truth, you listen to us, because that's all we do, 328 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: even if you don't like it. 329 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 330 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: Am six forty. 331 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: All right, I remind you that the Moist line is 332 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: coming back tomorrow already during this hour, and leave a 333 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: messages in the iHeartRadio app the microphone icon or call 334 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: that tot free number one eight seven seven moist eighty 335 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: six one eight seven seven six ' six four seven 336 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: eight eighty six. So we were just wandering into the 337 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 2: ridiculous topic once again of COVID nineteen. There's a new 338 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 2: scare about another another variant coming from India which can 339 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: give you pink eye. And there's also reports from the 340 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 2: CDC that if you want another booster, you can get 341 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: one if you're an older American. But also there's this 342 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: headline the Senate did the Senate Republicans did a report. 343 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: A three hundred page document has been released. One of 344 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: the headlines is it suggests that Chinese researchers started working 345 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: on a vaccine program in mid November of twenty nineteen. 346 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: Now you know this story blew up in late twenty 347 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: nineteen and into twenty twenty. Well, that's why it was 348 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: called COVID nineteen, because that's when they began to see 349 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: people with this mysterious flu like illness in that region 350 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: of China. Late twenty nineteen. 351 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: The Jim Garritty with National Review said, the closest thing 352 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: to a smoking gun in this full report is evidence 353 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: that researchers with the Wuhan Institute of Virology began working 354 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: on a vaccine against COVID before almost anyone else in 355 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: the world had heard of the virus. November twenty nineteen 356 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: seems to be the time that People's Liberation Army researchers 357 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: were developing the vaccines. November of twenty nineteen. Now, we 358 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: didn't start shutdowns here until March of twenty twenty. 359 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 2: It says here a team led by a professor Usenzau 360 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: from the Academy of Military Medical Sciences and China filed 361 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: a patent for a COVID nineteen vaccine on February twenty fourth, 362 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Experts say would have taken at least two 363 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: to three months prior to reach the stage of looking 364 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 2: for a patent, so they were probably at work in 365 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: November twenty nineteenth, one month before China publicly released details 366 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 2: on the virus to the world, there was another researcher 367 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: developing a second COVID vaccine. In fact, human clinical trials 368 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: began in mid March of twenty twenty in China. They 369 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: were testing their vaccine on human beings at the exact 370 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: moment that we started the lockdown here. They submitted for 371 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: the patent on March eighteenth of twenty twenty, so this 372 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: second researcher must have started her vaccine efforts no later 373 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: than early December twenty nineteen. Based on the also suggests 374 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 2: the possibility of two spiller events just weeks apart. Minor 375 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: genetic differences in early circulating string suggests two lineages of 376 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 2: the same virus may have emerged at the same time 377 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: and progressed on different paths. 378 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: According to this assessment, somebody must have dropped quite a 379 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: few beakers in the laboratory of what they were working. 380 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 4: Well. 381 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: It turns out that Wuhan was a biosafety level two 382 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: lab and the safety protocol is not as extensive and 383 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: stringent as those at biosafety level three and four. Level 384 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: two handles bacteria and viruses such as lime disease and 385 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: FLEW level three, anthrax and HIV eight, level four and 386 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: handles of boa to give you an idea, So this 387 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: was a level two safety protocol and somebody screwed up, 388 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: and they knew about it immediately and started working on 389 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: two vaccines immediately. The Chinese government knew it was dealing 390 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: with a contagious virus and deliberately lied to the rest 391 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: of the world that there was no clear evidence of 392 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: human to human transmission right up till January twentieth of 393 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. 394 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like all of this started with Axios. 395 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 2: That's the news outlet that got a hold of this 396 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: three hundred and two page Senate report a couple of 397 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: days ago. The coronavirus pandemic appeared to originate from a 398 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: laboratory accident based on biosafety issues in the epicet are 399 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: in Wuhan, China. 400 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: The report indicates that people in Wuhan were starting to 401 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: notice an abnormal rate of viral infections in October and November. 402 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: Eyewitness accounts, media reports, and epidemiological modeling support October twenty 403 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: eighth to November tenth as the window of emergence. Diplomats 404 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: at the Concert General's Office in Wuhan the US office, 405 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: have attested to observations to what they thought was the 406 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: early onset of a bad flu season. Wow, so our 407 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: diplomats noticed that something was going wrong. 408 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: According to this report. A lot of the evidence is circumstantial, 409 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: but the report is credible and worthy of inclusion in 410 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: the international effort to determine how the pandemic started so 411 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: steps can be taken to prevent or mitigate against future pandemics. 412 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: You know something, This surprised me, But it looks like 413 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: much of the public has gotten a message. There's two 414 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: polls in the last month. Quinnipiac showed sixty four percent 415 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: of Americans think the pandemic was caused by the laboratory 416 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: league sixty four to twenty two huh, twenty two believe 417 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: animals to humans. Then another poll by the Economists showed 418 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: sixty six to sixteen in favor of a lab leak. 419 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: And as we mentioned before, this report says there is 420 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: no known evidence of the virus being circulated by an 421 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: intermediary host, although perhaps back to human transmission can't be 422 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: ruled out. But I had said that a couple of 423 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: months ago. They never found any animal they think was 424 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 2: responsible and that to live animal market and move on 425 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: that could have started this on its path. 426 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: No, no, and remembered it looks like the virus was enhanced, 427 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: and it was enhanced through this devious research, so that 428 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: would jump from human to human more easily. That's the 429 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: experimentation they were doing. Think about this, it makes sense. 430 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: I mean we've talked about gain of function research, and 431 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: if any evil country is going to do this, it 432 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 2: would be China. And then what would they do next 433 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 2: if they discovered h oh, we did find something that's 434 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: even more transmittable and can make people sick. We better 435 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: come up with a vaccine too, because what if it 436 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: hits our people. We want to be able to get 437 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: out of this. It's a great weapon, but it can 438 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: backfire and kill us all exactly, So you then work 439 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: on the vaccine. 440 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: It's like the antidote to the poison. Isn't that amazing? 441 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: It was happening in front of their eyes in October 442 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: and November of twenty nineteen, and all you heard from 443 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: the Chinese governments, Oh no, everything's okay. And anybody who 444 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: objected in America, well that's racist by you. I'd love 445 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: to go after all these reporters, all these writers, all 446 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: these progressives as activists were screaming racism, and she really 447 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: punched them in the snout, like, look, look what you did. Now. 448 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: I just found a story that came out a couple 449 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 2: of days ago from ABC News. 450 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: New report from Senate Republicans doubles down. 451 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 2: On COVID lab leak theory, like, oh those guys again, 452 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: it's just the lazy right that thinks and and they're 453 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: doubling down. 454 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: They're why would it be a bad thing if we 455 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: found out for sure that it came from the LAB. 456 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 2: I don't understand why why, especially China, which is not 457 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: really a friendly nation, because we have so much trade 458 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: with them and they're so important. 459 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: One the progressives care about that. China is like one 460 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: of the most repressive, repressive regimes in the history of 461 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: the planet. Look how they how they started out because 462 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: of Trump and everyone thought he's being raised. Okay, so 463 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: he told a joke, really one Trump joke, and you 464 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: turn this into a civil war that anybody who thinks 465 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: it came out of the LAB as racist. 466 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: Really, I mean, if Trump hadn't been president and this 467 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: had progressed differently, it probably wouldn't have been that big 468 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: a deal for people to accept that it started in 469 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: a Chinese Woulhon lab. I really, I just I think 470 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 2: everything gets distorted by so much polarization now and it's like, oh, 471 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: that's just credited. 472 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: I'll never listen to that. I have seen online posters 473 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: pushing progressive causes like come to the park and we're 474 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: going to demonstrate and protest. And on the poster says 475 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: wear your mask. But it's not like where your mask 476 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: to be safe. This is where your maskulds a symbol 477 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: of our political power. This is a symbol of our cause. 478 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: We're mask wearers, we're progressives. It's, you know, like the 479 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: Nazis wearing that symbol. We got more coming up with Swastika. 480 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: Johnny Kenton I AM six forty Live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 481 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 482 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 483 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: You can also hear our podcast after four o'clock of 484 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: today's show on the IR Johnny Ken on demand. We're 485 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: not done though, We're not done. 486 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 2: We had the story the other day that Fox News 487 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 2: is gonna pay a huge pile of money to Dominion 488 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 2: Voting Systems to settle a claim that they, of course 489 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: disparaged the voting company. 490 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: How much was it? It was like seven eighty seven million, 491 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: you know what I read today. Now they can deduct 492 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirteen million of that from their taxes, 493 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: so that brings you down into the five. 494 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: Hundreds and part off your operating loss. And then they 495 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: have insurance assurance I thought they did. Yeah, yeah, that's 496 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: of insurance for libel slander or whatever. 497 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: Right, so it's not going to cost them that much 498 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: maybe just maybe just you know, a couple of hundred million, 499 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're deductible. 500 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: Was Yeah, but that could change your insurance rate next 501 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: to whoever underwrites you were going to say, oh, now 502 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: this happened, we're going to start charging you a lot 503 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: more in premiums for that kind of cover? 504 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: Was it worth it that they they endeared themselves to 505 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: their loyal viewers who demand obedience. 506 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, to trust and all the viewers, but 507 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: it was a percentage that just did not want to 508 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: hear anything. But the election was stolen, right, Yeah, and 509 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 2: so that's what they had to try to make sure 510 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: that they covered them. 511 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: And now, on. 512 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: A similar topic, a guy that was really big in fact, 513 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: I think he said to Trump, you should use the 514 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 2: military to hold on to office. Do you know what 515 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: I'm talking about? Pillow guy Mike Lindell. Oh, yeah, Mike Lindell. 516 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: Mike Lindell sometimes got to see Trump because he's a 517 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: wealthy businessman, and he is the MyPillow founder. And I 518 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: guess all those the ads worked because they made him 519 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 2: a fortune. So he put out a contest in August 520 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty one, proved Mike Wrong, the twenty twenty 521 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: election challenge. Basically, he was saying that he would pay 522 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: anybody that could prove that he was wrong that the 523 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 2: election was stolen. Well, a software developer by the name 524 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 2: of Robert Zieman says that he proved that Lindell was 525 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: wrong about the election being stolen and wanted to get paid. 526 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: They ended up in front of an arbitration panel and 527 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: they decided yesterday that this software developer is going to 528 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: get five million dollars from Mike Lindell. Now, he says 529 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: he's going to appeal this and it's going to end 530 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: up in court. It's not going to take this decision. 531 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: It was at August twenty twenty one, at a cyber symposium 532 00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 2: that Lindell was hosting in Sioux Fall, South Dakota, he 533 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: announced a contest called prof Mike Wrong Challenge. Participants were 534 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: asked to find proof that his cyber data was not 535 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: valid data from the November election. The announcement said, for 536 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: the people to find the evidence. Five million is their reward. 537 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: So this guy went to work, who actually was a 538 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: Donald Trump voter and says he was excited to see 539 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: the evidence that Lindell had turned up. He wanted it 540 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: to be twenty twenty election data set his attorney, but 541 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: turns out it was not. And he proved that this 542 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: data was invalid and he wants his payment, and this 543 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: arbitration panel ruled that he should get the five million. 544 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: Each side picked an arbitrator, and then there was a 545 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: third neutral arbitrator and all three ruled in favor of Sideman. Yeah, 546 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: he had cyber data. Wow, the guy's a pillow salesman. 547 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: When did he become like a ranked advisor with he's 548 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: a cyber data expert, he's an election expert, a political. 549 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: Zeidman was given eleven files to review in two days 550 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: at the conference, and when he went to it, he 551 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: found out it actually wasn't twenty twenty election data. After 552 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: analyzing the files, he believed he'd win the contest. He 553 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: presented a report concluding that Lindell's data unequivocally did not 554 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: contain any information related to the November twenty twenty election. 555 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: Wasn't even from twenty twenty. Apparently not. No who talked 556 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: Lindell into this, especially after he offered up five million. 557 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 2: And there's a story that his advisors were telling him 558 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: to call off this contest. But Zeidman eventually took the 559 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: case to arbitration. Each side got to pick one arbitrator 560 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: who joined, a third neutral arbitrator, and John's wright. All 561 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: three ruled in favor of Zeidman. So Lindell thinks he's 562 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: going to go to federal court now and get it overturned. 563 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: I don't see how. I mean, the data's been examined 564 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: now a lot. They told them. It's not even the 565 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty election. I'm gonna try to claim that it 566 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: wasn't a real contest, it was just a joker. No, 567 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: I think he made it clear it wasn't a joke. 568 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: Now, No, I know so, But I guess it's going 569 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: to cause iidmen to fight this right if they have 570 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: to go to court, unless they end up deciding that 571 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: Lindel has to pay his fees too or whatever. 572 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably that's that's usually what happens, all right. 573 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 6: Tim Conway's here, Hey, No, well, we're gonna do three 574 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 6: hours on the transgender sports debate. 575 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: Oh good, Yeah, that's exciting. 576 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: Who are your guests? 577 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 6: I don't have anybody yet. We got a couple of articles. 578 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 6: I guess that's a big deal. You know, a lot 579 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 6: of people making a big deal out of that. I 580 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 6: don't know where I stand on it. I mean, I'd 581 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 6: love to see some better players than wn And. 582 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: You know, you've never watched a WNBA. I know. 583 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 6: But if they if they all of a sudden, you know, 584 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 6: guys that didn't make the NBA that you know, oh 585 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 6: I see slid into the w NBA, then reverse Tomahawks 586 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 6: and you know, three pointers, everything goes. 587 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: You know, you pay them enough money, they'll be guys 588 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: who will change sides. Yeah. 589 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 6: I mean I don't think I could make the team, 590 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 6: but yeah, yeah, maybe I could. 591 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: WNBA is a sport still in search of an audience. 592 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 6: Well yeah, and it's the w n B. A is 593 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 6: subsidized I think by the NBA. 594 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: Yes it is. 595 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 6: But here's something, here's a set that I at a 596 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 6: large loss. Here's what I don't like about it. If 597 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 6: you take the NBA the w NBA salaries of all 598 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 6: the teams, they're one third of Lebron James's salary of 599 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 6: a year. So all the salaries of the w NBA 600 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 6: all combined, make up one third of Lebron James. 601 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: Well, there's no revenue there. I don't know what's going 602 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: on there. 603 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 6: Alex Stone is coming on with us, and after years 604 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 6: of threats, it looks like Oakland a might be moving. 605 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, exciting maybe in Vegas, right, I hope it's 606 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: an indoor stadium with a roof. 607 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, baseball in August in 608 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: Vegas morning. They bought some land in Las Vegas, going yeah, 609 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: all right, but yeah, it has to be an indoor stadium. 610 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna have to. So they'll have the Raiders, They're 611 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: gonna have the A's. They've got a hockey team there now, and. 612 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 6: Team what's the NBA team, the Las Vegas Aces. Okay, 613 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 6: an NBA team. I thought I thought the Queens would 614 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 6: be a better name for it. I don't know, taken 615 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 6: from Sacramento then, but but but but that means Oakland 616 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 6: has lost a basketball team, a football team, and a 617 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 6: baseball team in the last three years. 618 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: It's not that biggest city. 619 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, by San Francisco's run across the bay 620 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: has got teams. 621 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. 622 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 6: But but you know what, Green Bay, Wisconsin is the 623 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 6: size of burd Bank, and they have their own NFL. 624 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: Team because they draw from all of this. 625 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: Heritage that was one of the original NFL teams. 626 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 4: Right. 627 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 6: I'm just saying, there's one hundred and five thousand people 628 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 6: live in Burbank and one hundred and five thousand people 629 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 6: live in Green Bay. And what is Burbank? Not that 630 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 6: the valley's got nothing? Two million people live in the valleys. 631 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 6: Not a sports team. Is not the five star hotel nothing? 632 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: Practice? 633 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 6: Wait, the Rams practice facila. I think that's gonna be 634 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 6: up in Ventura, isn't it. No, it's gonna be where 635 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 6: the the Penga Mall is. Yeah, okay, okay, great. So 636 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 6: a team that is giving all their talent away, we 637 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 6: can watch them practice that. 638 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: You're just not happy. There's no answer to satisfied. 639 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: So you know you got you can you can do 640 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: this Trams athlete thing now for three hours. 641 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: That's right? 642 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 6: You know, ken, are you going to keep up with 643 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 6: those season seats? If if the Rams are stink them 644 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 6: over the next. 645 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: Five years five years, it's a good question. Probably not, certainly, 646 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: it will go another couple of years. All right, all right, 647 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't look. 648 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 2: Good, No, it doesn't. They didn't really do anything in 649 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: the off season. I feel good about this year. 650 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 1: They gave away everything. 651 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, they lost a couple of players that were pretty good. 652 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: That's right. And then Chris Adler is coming on. I 653 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: don't know for what, but she's coming on, all right, 654 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: and Krozer has the news dig Dog. 655 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 656 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 2: You can always hear us live on KFI A M 657 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 2: six forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 658 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.