1 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where you don't want to be 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: the favorite. It's Week two. You thought you had it made, 3 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: your team was given a touchdown away you probably lost. 4 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal in the Chris Westling podcast studio alongside 5 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Patrick Claybahn Nick Schook, reporting live from Cleveland, Ohio. You 6 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: know a team that also was an underdog and one 7 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday, but they weren't the big stories. Patrick goes, like, 8 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: every team that we thought was probably gonna win in 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: the early window didn't win. It's a beautiful thing. 10 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, a beautiful thing, unless, of course you you 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: passionately cheer and care about the outcomes for one of 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: those teams. But almost Celtic coming at least the Baltimore Ravens. 13 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: You did. All right, let's not even waste any more time, Sorry, Nick, 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: We're just gonna get right to it, because let's be real. 15 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: You know, you look at all the games that are 16 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: on the schedule. You got Tony Romo and Jim Nanton, 17 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: It's Bengals Chiefs and you know whendn't you know? It 18 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: comes down to a late field goal and a call 19 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the game, and you think, well 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: of course, you just got to start the show that way. 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: That's just how they got here. 22 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: Not here. 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: I don't want him because to me, this week was 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: more about those big underdogs early, the Raiders, the Bucks, 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: the Vikings, the Saints, who all get that, so we 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: don't have to do the Chiefs and the Bengals. First, 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: Let's start in Baltimore where the Raiders got it. 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 4: Done twenty six twenty three, Vegas on top and a 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 4: ten point fourth quarter comeback. 30 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 5: That's right. 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: Just let Max Rosey play the joker. 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 4: He's not rushing, he's just watching Jackson. There's the snat 33 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: pressure from Wilkins up. Jackson takes off up the middle. 34 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: He has the fifty and the forty still on his 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: feet at the thirty. He laterals it back to Justice 36 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 4: Hill on near sideline at the thirty, keeps the play alive. 37 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: He toumps, it looks like it was foward. Here's the flag, 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: it's still loose. Raiders beat it down, they're about to. 39 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 4: Fall on top of it, and this ballgame is over. 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: The Raiders come to Baltimore. 41 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 4: And they beat the Ravens twenty six twenty three in 42 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 4: a massive effort. 43 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: Here on the road, I can't believe it, Patrick Clayban. 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: It was twenty three to thirteen, ten point Ravens win. 45 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: After Derrick Henry scored a touchdown in the fourth quarter. 46 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: The Raiders have three more scoring drives after that. What 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: happened to your team? We can just go public with that. 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think most people are are aware. 49 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: The last time I sat in this chair, the very 50 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: few moments before we left, I said, ah, that's the 51 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: problem with this Raiders matchup, Gardner Minsh, you beat them 52 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: let last year, and Greg's shokey looks at me and says, oh, 53 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: that's some fan stuff. 54 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: Well that was not worried about Gardner Minshew in this spot, 55 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: but you were right, okay. 56 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 2: So with four h three to go in the game, 57 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 2: there was a third and goal from the seventeen yard line, 58 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: Minshew looks for DeVante Adams, Brandon Stevens gets called for 59 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: pass interfere that the Raiders would score. After that, they 60 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: would get a stop and then they would ultimately get 61 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: Daniel Carson Carlson out there to kick what would have 62 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: been a game winning field goal. 63 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: There was the final play. You go back, you watch it. 64 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: I know people looking at the broadcast were saying, well, 65 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: if Lamar fakes a pitch there and keeps the ball, 66 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: he scores a touchdown. 67 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 3: There were three Raiders on top of him. 68 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but really, if he wheeled again and again, this 69 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: would have been a three to sixty no scope like, 70 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: no look being able to see the entire field at once. 71 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: But say Flowers is standing on the opposite sideline all 72 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: by himself. He's got like forty yards of space. But 73 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: that's neither here nor there. They couldn't get the stops 74 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: down the stretch. They were three of eleven on third down. 75 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: The Raiders were four of twelve. But you try to 76 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: find a spot. The pass protection got better this week 77 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: Lamar was under pressure. His passing numbers were actually better 78 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 2: under pressure this week against the Raiders, but ultimately they 79 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: couldn't get those late first downs. After Derek Henry gets 80 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: over seventy nine yards, he gets that touchdown. They really 81 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: couldn't move the Raiders defensive line at all. Christian Wilkins 82 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: played a solid game. Max Crosby is Max Crosby and 83 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: and Shook. That's that's just what happens. You can't you 84 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: can't close the game out late. You want you get 85 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: Dereck Henry because you want to have a four minute drill, 86 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: you want to be able to ice games. 87 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: They didn't do it. 88 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's where the Raiders invested in the 89 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 6: offseason by getting guys like Wilkins and paying Max Crosby 90 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 6: when they didn't have to. And all the talk this 91 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 6: week was well, who's gonna stop Lamar? Or how how 92 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 6: do we stop Max Crosby. That felt like the kind 93 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 6: of strange matchup there. But I look at the box 94 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 6: score in this game and I just see eleven penalties 95 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 6: for the Ravens, three of eleven on third down. Lamar 96 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 6: rushes five times for forty five yards. And obviously you 97 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 6: don't want to runn asmuch as he did in Week one. 98 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 6: But some things that are just a little uncharacteristic of 99 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 6: the Ravens to the point that I essentially, Patrick, if 100 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 6: I'm reading you correctly, with that Zay Flowers situation, I 101 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 6: have to envision Frank Wycheck to Kevin Diyce in Music 102 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 6: City Miracle. To give the Ravens a chance in this game. 103 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 6: This is unlike them. They should not be in that situation. 104 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that play, that play wasn't happening. I mean to 105 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: focus in on that play is crazy. I would focus 106 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: more on Look, it's a complete team loss for the Ravens, 107 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: but for the last four possessions. For the Raiders to 108 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: go touchdown field goal, touchdown, field goal in a half 109 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: where they only had five possessions is pretty wild. Let's 110 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: you mentioned DeVante Adams had the game tying touchdown. DeVante 111 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: Adams goes nine for one to ten and a touchdown, 112 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: including one of the most beautiful toe tap. They called 113 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: it the smooth criminal catch on Twitter, which was perfect, 114 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: just like an unreal DeVante Adams catch on the sideline, 115 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: and then he gets the touchdown late brock Bauers, who 116 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: is very much the same as the brock Bowers you 117 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: saw in college nine for ninety eight. So those two 118 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: get it done. Let's listen to that Devonte Adams game 119 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: tying touchdown. 120 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: Mit Schew and the count he's got some Mere White 121 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: two his right. The handoff is sa mere no. Mitchew 122 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 4: keeps it to the end. 123 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 7: Zone for Adams and it's caught touchdown Raiders. Minchew pulled 124 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 7: it out of White's belly, had a quick thrown at 125 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 7: Avonte in the back middle of the end zone and 126 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 7: the Raiders went three point fifty four to go in 127 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 7: the game, are an extra point away from tying this game. 128 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, halfway through this game, I've seen people calling for 129 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: aoc A and O'Connell, but Gardner Minshew ends up with 130 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: thirty for thirty eight for two to seventy six. What 131 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: happened there? 132 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: Well, ultimately there was coverage issues. We saw it last 133 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: week against Xavier Worthy. The Ravens blew a coverage and 134 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: for some reason, brock Bauers just gets a whole bunch 135 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: of free releases. It's gonna be tough to cover brock 136 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: Bowers anyway. But you mentioned the field goal on the 137 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: possession after that, Antonio Pierce had an opportunity. He wound 138 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: up playing for the field goal and playing the clock 139 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 2: game instead. The Raiders could have scored these touchdowns consecutively. 140 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: Down question that there was really very little. There was 141 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,119 Speaker 2: much more of a pass rush in the first half 142 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: versus the second half. They couldn't get to Minshew and 143 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: when they did it was just Minshew magic. 144 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: It's crazy, I mean, it's weak two. As you said 145 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: right before we started, you were like, whatever's happened so far? 146 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: You think it's gonna hold this year. So the Ravens 147 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: are going, oh, in seventeen. 148 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: They're not gonna They're not gonna win a single game. 149 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: They are two games back in the AFC North, and yeah, 150 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: this is a huge win obviously for the Raiders to 151 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: just get some positive, positive vibes. Justin Tucker misses a 152 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: fifty yard field goal in this game. He's one of 153 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: his last seven from fifty plus. I think we can 154 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: safely say Justin Tucker is no longer the best kicker 155 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Hitting fifty plus is what kind of 156 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: matters right now for kickers because they're all hitting all 157 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: the kicks under fifty. They're all so good at it 158 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: that Justin Tucker's kind of not that dude anymore, which 159 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: is amazing. But it is cool to see that Devanta 160 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: Adams still is that dude. Before moving to the next game, 161 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: let's just listen to DeVonta Adams because he had a 162 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: postgame interview on the field with NFL Daily's own Steve Weisch. 163 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Wesch does other stuff, but mostly he's with 164 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: NFL ty gotta hit the defense last, so they go 165 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: up by ten. Max Roseman, the guys shut him down 166 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: the rest. 167 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 5: Of the way. 168 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: Those boys, I mean, leap is far man, they fire. 169 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 8: I'm not gonna lie. 170 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: So we gotta gotta do what we gotta do on 171 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: offense and be a little more consistent. 172 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: Take some of that firsture off of him. 173 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: But they clearly are fit to withstand some of that 174 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: fun that they're dealing with. 175 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 9: So as long as they keep fishing out, we're gonna 176 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 9: be a fair team. 177 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: All right. That was DeVante Adams. We move on from Vegas, 178 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: UH to Minnesota, where another team that was a pretty 179 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: big underdog on Sunday got it done. And they got 180 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: it done in large part because of slinging Sam Darnold. 181 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 9: Second and nine for the Vikings from their own three 182 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 9: Darnald under center play action to Jones back to pass. 183 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: Both have picked up deep shot. 184 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 5: Jefferson yes, fifty picks. 185 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: What to the forty touts back to the twenty five 186 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: head to the right. 187 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 10: He's trying to outrun the Niners to the five. 188 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Hey d seven yard. 189 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 11: Touchdown from samarld suggestion Jefferson. 190 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: Awesome call there by Paul Allen on k FA, and 191 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: the Vikings moved to two to zero on the season. 192 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: Twenty three to seventeen, the upset over the forty nine ers. 193 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: With our friends at sky Sports in the building there, 194 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: they were good luck for the Vikings. I'll go, I'll 195 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: see it Neil Reynolds and Alex Jackson over in the 196 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: UK in about a month for Jags Bears, but we're 197 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: here to talk Vikings Niners shook. They got the lead 198 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: early in this game, Justin Jefferson leaves with a quad injury. 199 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: They say it's a bruise, in that he'll be ready 200 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: to go next week. It's not believed to be serious. 201 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: So they even got some good news on the injury 202 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: front after the game, like, what was your biggest takeaway here? 203 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 6: I mean, we're living in an alternate universe where I 204 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 6: I have confidence in Sam Darold. 205 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: Now. 206 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 6: I know it's only two games, but he looks like 207 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 6: he has graduated to the next level. He is comfortable, 208 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 6: he's not making massive mistakes. There was a period where 209 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 6: I texted some of my USC friends and said, guys, 210 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 6: I feel as Sam turnover a bad decision coming here 211 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 6: with this game getting tight, And he did the opposite. 212 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 6: He stood in the pocket with the pass rush bearing 213 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 6: down on his right side. He rips a missile down 214 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 6: the seam over Fred Warner between three Niners defenders to 215 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 6: Jalen Naylor for a big pickup late in that game. 216 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 6: And that right there proved to me, not the ninety 217 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 6: seven yard touchdown pass, which is a thing of beauty 218 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 6: in itself, but that right there proved to me Sam 219 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 6: might just be built for this. Finally, after all these years, 220 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 6: he might be ready for it, because he's looked like 221 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 6: it through two weeks. 222 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 12: And this is not the New York Giants, the San 223 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 12: Francisco forty nine ers. 224 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 6: This is the team that put the New York Jets 225 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 6: in a crock pot and slow cooked them to death 226 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 6: last week and this time around. Sure, they gave up 227 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 6: three hundred and ninety nine yards of offense to the Niners, 228 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 6: but at the same time they were able to outlast 229 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 6: them with plays like that. 230 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 12: And that's the beauty of it right now. 231 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 6: Also, the other beautiful thing we went last week from 232 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 6: Paul Allen being like, eh, you know, it's second and 233 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 6: seven here. Now you can see the excitement in his 234 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 6: voice before the action even happened. He's believing too, everything 235 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 6: turning up Vikings. 236 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's reason to believe. 237 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: Nick like, this isn't some upset where the Vikings were 238 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: the team that fumbled on the goal line. The Vikings 239 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 2: out gained the forty nine Ers, they were making plays, 240 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: the turnover battle was even at to apiece. This is 241 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: just a straight up show up at home and have 242 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: a nice solid win over a team where brock Perty 243 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: didn't self destruct today. 244 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: He played, He played solidly. 245 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: They just went out and beat the forty nine ers 246 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: like there was no statistical anomaly here, still win. 247 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: Right when Aaron Jones fumbled on the goal line and 248 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: that came was that before or after Darnold's interception to 249 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: Fred Warner, which was just a fantastic play. After that 250 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: was after it? So after those two turnovers happened at 251 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: the same time, I'm thinking, like, clip that play, guys. 252 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that play as when the game turned 253 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: because normally in a Viking hit situation you have two 254 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: plays like that. And Donald's throw wasn't great, but that 255 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: was an even better interception by Warner. Warner made both 256 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: of those turnovers. He also forced the fumble on Jones. 257 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: He is just playing out of his mind. Last week 258 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: might have been one of the best games I've ever seen. 259 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: Fred Warner play and then he has another game like this. 260 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: Normally I would expect, you know, the Vikings end up 261 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: losing this game, but you mentioned how they they iced 262 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: it without Jefferson on the field, without Jordan Addison on 263 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: the field, and they partly did it, Yeah, because the 264 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: defense shook. They blitz Brock Purdy on twenty of his 265 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: forty four dropbacks forty five percent. With normally you say, 266 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: oh man, they went crazy, but actually that's that's as 267 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: normal for Flores. It might be under their average, actually 268 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: forty five percent. And while all these pressures didn't come 269 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: on the blitzes, he was pressured thirteen times and he 270 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: took six sacks, the most of his career. So the 271 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: Vikings defense got home. 272 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I like the most about this performance 273 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 6: from the Vikings. It was a total team win because 274 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 6: on one side you had Donald you know, thriving, but 275 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 6: the defense itself, Yeah, they gave up close to four 276 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 6: hundred yards of offense, but they got after the quarterback. 277 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 6: They got Brock pretty unsettled. By the time the fourth 278 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 6: quarter arrived. He wasn't even getting through his progressions from 279 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 6: right to left. He was almost freezing because it had 280 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 6: just been so much chaos throughout most of that game. 281 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 6: That's the first time I've seen Brock pretty really uncomfortable 282 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 6: in a long time. And that was credit to their defense. 283 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 6: And this is a team that, like we just talked about, 284 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 6: turned the ball over twice. The Niners took both of 285 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 6: those turnovers down the field and scored, and they got 286 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 6: right back up off the mat and said let's go. 287 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 6: I'll go another ten rounds with you, and they ended 288 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 6: up coming out on top. 289 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: I love that, and I just love that this NFC 290 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: North is just gonna be even spicier than we expected. 291 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: I expect Kevin Harlan to be spicy every week, and 292 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: all I can say is we look for the moments 293 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: when Kevin Harland just makes us happy. And he gave 294 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: us a beauty on Sunday, in part because of technical 295 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: problems where it sounds like the halftime cruise audio wasn't working. 296 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: Let's listen, man, Let's take you to a Perlisson in 297 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: New York. 298 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 3: I can't hear anything, can I can't hear you? 299 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 13: Go Rogers against Tennis Sell They go in jeep. 300 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: They want the worst card die, the type. 301 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 13: With a touchdown reception. The former check Chak, who yet 302 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 13: this with the on for Tennessee to Minneapolis. All right, 303 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 13: thank you, Chuck. 304 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: I love it. 305 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 14: I'm throwing a flag. I'm throwing a flag on the crew. 306 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 14: Somebody's gotta let Kevin Harlan know what the play is 307 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 14: because he's he's doing a million things at once. It's 308 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 14: been like Levister Ridley just getting his ears so he 309 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 14: can finish. 310 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: The cass there knowing is expected that and knowing that 311 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: he's watching on a monitor where that play is in 312 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: the in the tiny little box and he gets it done. 313 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: That was awesome. Not awesome is Christian McCaffrey's achilles tendonitis 314 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Let's listen to Kyle 315 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: Shanahan after the game respond to I believe pretty directly 316 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: a report from our NFL networks, Ian Rapaport saying that 317 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: McCaffrey could be out up to six weeks. Since we've 318 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: last recorded, he was placed on injured reserve. Jordan Mason 319 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: got the start on Sunday and he looks fantastic again, 320 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: one hundred yards in a touchdown, So they have a 321 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: good backup, but obviously very concerning that McCaffrey's hurt. 322 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 15: Nobody knows. You know, we're dealing with tendon itis, so 323 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 15: there's not one person knows. 324 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: He doesn't know, we. 325 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 15: Don't know, and take it day by day, you know. 326 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 15: By putting on ir it's at least four weeks, so 327 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 15: that'll give him some time to rest and kind of 328 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 15: protect him from himself us too, no matter how he's 329 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 15: feeling this four at the minimum. 330 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: M I guess nobody knows, but you know, someone like 331 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: Ian Rapport doesn't put that out there for no reason. 332 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: It was partly, I think a scheduling thing too, and 333 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: it's just it's disappointing. And yet again they're a team 334 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: that really the games that matter are going to November, December, January, 335 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: hopefully Christian McCaffrey is back for them by then. Let's 336 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: continue with the upset theme and go to Lambeau where, look, 337 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna start a quarterback they just traded for a 338 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: few weeks ago. This isn't gonna go well, right, Oh 339 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: yes it does. 340 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 10: Pittman and Pierce to the right side along with Branson 341 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 10: the tight end. Mitchell split to the left, snap to Richardson. 342 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 10: He looks, he waits still looking, winds up rainbows deep. 343 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 11: Down the right side into a gaggle of bodies just 344 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 11: drunk it a far accepted by the Packers and there 345 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 11: is your daggers intercepted by the rookie Evan Williams, and 346 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 11: the Packers survived sixteen to ten over the Colts. 347 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: I love it. 348 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 16: W R N W. 349 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: Wayne Larvie with the call. We'd have to go back 350 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: and have someone listened to see if he had a 351 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: dagger call like a minute and a half before that, 352 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: because I swear I thought this game was over after 353 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: a previous stop, but it was not. The Colts hung 354 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: around in a game where it was pretty one sided throughout. 355 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: Sixteen to ten, the Packers get the victory over the Colts. 356 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: Now at oh and two, the Packers with a big 357 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: time win. And I watched this game and the first 358 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: drive was really telling. Malik Willis only throws one pass 359 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: on that drive for zero yards, and yet they drove 360 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: the ball fifty seven yards on the ground. They ended 361 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: up having one hundred and sixty four yards on the 362 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: ground in the first quarter two hundred and thirty seven 363 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: yards on the ground in the first half. That is 364 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: the third most rushing yards in the first half of 365 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: any team in any game since two thousand. They actually 366 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: only ended up with two sixty one, so the Colts 367 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: kind of cleaned it up after halftime, but by then 368 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: the damage was done. And it's amazing to me that 369 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 1: the Colts went into this game knowing the Packers are 370 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: just going to run the ball. Josh Jacobs ends up 371 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: with thirty two for one fifty one, Malik Willis goes 372 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: six for forty one on the ground. Even Jayden Reid 373 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: has has a couple of long runs, like every runn 374 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: he has is a long run, and the Colts just 375 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: weren't ready. The second straight week. Their rush defense really 376 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 1: killed them. And I was tracking Patrick like a lot 377 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: of Colts reporters after this game, and people are almost 378 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: debating like who is the bigger problem here? The offense 379 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: or the defense, because while the defense was getting steamrolled, 380 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: I mean, the Colts offense only had three plays on 381 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: offense before it was ten to nothing, so they were 382 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: always playing from behind. Colts offense didn't really get it 383 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: done either. Anthony Richardson throws three picks, another sort of 384 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: boom or bust game for the Colts. 385 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: But now this is the second consecutive game where a 386 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: vet and running back has gone in against the Indianapolis 387 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: coltson run all over the moves ten to nothing with 388 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: twelve thirteen to go in the second quarter, and Josh 389 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: Jacobs fumbled right on the goal line, and so this 390 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: this could have gotten even worse. That kind of kept 391 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: them into the game. And we come in and we're saying, oh, 392 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 2: Malik Willis has never thrown for one hundred yards. He's 393 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: never had a receiver go over fifty yards. Malik Willis 394 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: played a pretty solid game today. He said, there was 395 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 2: no runs on that first drive because one of those 396 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 2: swingout was a backwards pass to Jayden Reed. But it's 397 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: still he's in a throwing motion. Like Malik Willis comes in, 398 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: he just got there. Like, what would Malik Willis have 399 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: a whole off season, a chance to prepare for this 400 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: offense that's proliferated around the league? 401 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 3: What might he be? That's what I loved about this game. 402 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: We finally get a chance to see it. 403 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 6: You know, like, going into this situation strategically, you think, 404 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 6: from an offensive standpoint, all right, how are we gonna 405 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 6: you know, minimize our potential to turn the ball over 406 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 6: and kill ourselves it's by shortening the passing game. It's 407 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 6: by relying on the run game, and the defense knows 408 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 6: that they know that they're gonna come there and try 409 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 6: to pound the rock on the ground as much as possible. 410 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 6: It is demoralizing it as can be when you can't 411 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 6: stop that. When a guy goes thirty two for one 412 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 6: p fifty one, when they rack up this many rushing yards, 413 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 6: you can't stop him. And I sound like a broken 414 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 6: record at this point, but if you can't stop him 415 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 6: at the point of attack on the ground, that takes 416 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 6: all the pressure in the world off the quarterback. You 417 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 6: need to stack the box now just to stop the run. 418 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 6: Let alone try to get after that quarterback and suddenly 419 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 6: he's not as much of a factor. Then he goes 420 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 6: out and completes twelve or fourteen passes, has a pretty 421 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 6: nice day. Doesn't have to be the star. And that's 422 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 6: how you win when you know you don't trust your 423 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 6: quarterback that well, So kudos to him, kudos to Matt Lafleur. 424 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 6: We're putting together a game plan that works. I mean, 425 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 6: it's a beautiful thing when all of it works like that, 426 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 6: and it's really really scary and concerning for a defense 427 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 6: when you cannot get that type of stop against another 428 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 6: NFL team, It's as simple as that, especially in two 429 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 6: weeks in a row. 430 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned the passing numbers, because yeah, they 431 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: ended up great. 432 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 3: Now. 433 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs helped him out. His playmakers helped him out. 434 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs with a great catch in the second half 435 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: of this game when Malik Willis put it up, but 436 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: it was a chance worth taking. And on the couple 437 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: timing routes that they had, Malik Willis was very effective. 438 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: Let's listen to his touchdown throw to Dontavian Wicks. 439 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 10: Third and four now for the Packers at the Colts 440 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 10: fourteen yard line. 441 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: Here's the snap. 442 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 11: Willis looks, throws right side pass man down the sidelines 443 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 11: in the young up. 444 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: Down Tavian Wex. 445 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 10: The first touchdown pass rock in the career of Malik Willis. 446 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: What a story. I think Matt Lafleur was having a 447 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: blast in this game. Some of the run formations they 448 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: had early were awesome. And look, Jordan Love didn't get 449 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: ruled out for this game. Weirdly until Saturday. I think 450 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: he was downgraded to doubtful. They had him questionable on 451 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: the injury report initially, there's some talk that maybe he's 452 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: a little closer to returning, and that would certainly support 453 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: it than people thought. We'll see what they do in 454 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: week three. Either way, it's a great story, but maybe 455 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: Willis buys him another week to be more conservative with 456 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: their quarterback. And this is a type of win that 457 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: everyone just gets really excited about. Let's actually listen to 458 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur after the game talking about his center, Josh 459 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: Myers throwing up on the ball. That's a real football guy. 460 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 17: I asked Malik why he didn't throw the ball and 461 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 17: that third down, and he told me that Josh threw 462 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 17: up on the ball. I was like, that's the first 463 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 17: time I've ever heard that. Matter of fact, official. 464 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 3: Came over to me. 465 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 17: Sean came over to me and said, you know, we 466 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 17: saw your center thrown up on the ball. Do you 467 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 17: want us to take him out next time? I said, absolutely, 468 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 17: please do that, because I mean, you're talking about a 469 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 17: critical situation and it's third down and I've never had 470 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 17: a throw with Voman on a football, so I don't know. 471 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 17: I don't think Malik probably appreciate that. 472 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: That is incredible and yet please please yo check out 473 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: the YouTube. Subscribe. You get the highlights, you get the sound. 474 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: Obviously we love you on the audio. But if you 475 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: do happen to watch a video, you can see that's 476 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: your screamish right the replay of him puking three or 477 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: four street times, it was a liquidy one didn't seem 478 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: too chuck. 479 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: Well, that's the that's the issue. 480 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, the volume and Malik willis my goodness, he 481 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: Jordan Love gets hurt in the final moments. He comes 482 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: in just to throw a hail Mary on the slush fest. 483 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: He falls down and then he comes in this game, 484 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: his first start for the Packers and the Sinners throwing 485 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: up on the football. Thank goodness for him. He makes 486 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: a decision to just hold on to it and keep it. 487 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: But that's a that's a lot to process. 488 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 6: In vomit the opposite of stickham like, think vomits legal, right, yeah, 489 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 6: probably a little slippery, right. 490 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: I saw another I can now, I'm now I'm losing track. 491 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: And it might have been in a different It might 492 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: have been in a different game. I swear I saw 493 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: another player vomiting on the field. I believe at the 494 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: end of this game. That was not Malik Willis, so 495 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 496 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 12: That's September, maybe September, so that's pretty common. 497 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: Maybe it was just going around. 498 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: So but I do wonder, from an officiating standpoint, if 499 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: the if the defensive tackle does that on the ball, 500 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: what's what's the call. 501 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't think there is a call for that. I 502 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: think that's just like neutral gen in fract it's nature. 503 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: So you just have to let it happen. Disappointing day 504 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: for the Colts. Not only do they lose to go 505 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: oh and two, they waste a good performance by Jonathan Taylor, 506 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: who had a nice yard, was not always on the field, 507 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: like on third downs, but he said he was healthy. 508 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: The time of possession. They've lost by roughly forty minutes 509 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: to twenty minutes in both games, which you don't normally 510 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't get tooquorried about time and possession. But that's 511 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: a lot. And then most importantly there DeForest Buckner had 512 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: to be helped off the field appeared to have what 513 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: could be a serious lower leg injury. We will see. 514 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: Liot Latu also was ruled out late in this game 515 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: with a hip injury. The defensive line was supposed to 516 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: be their strength and now it kind of looks like 517 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: a weakness. And yeah, as I mentioned, I did see 518 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: Richardson you know some of the interceptions. The last one 519 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: was just you know, he's thrown up a hail Mary. 520 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: But he did have an overthrow where I'm not a 521 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: mechanics but it looked a little crazy. What was going on, 522 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: kind of backpedaling, his feet were all crazy and the 523 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 1: ball sailed. So just a sloppy day for the Colts. 524 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: They will try to respond. We will be responding after 525 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: the break. I guess we'll get to this. Patrick Mahomes, 526 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: Joe Burrows, They're gonna. 527 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: Have to deal with waiting for the Chiefs at some point. 528 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, such a good week of games. 529 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: That Yeah, a twenty six, twenty five Chiefs victory over 530 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: the Bengals didn't even lead the show, but it is 531 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. I love this rivalry started all Bengals, now 532 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: lately it's been all Chiefs. And if you had to 533 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 1: guess before the game how it was going to end, 534 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: the call would sound something like this. 535 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 18: It's the Bengals in the Chiefs. Why would you think 536 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 18: it would be any thing different than this? A fifty 537 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 18: one year older officially to try to win it by 538 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 18: Bucker twenty five to twenty three. Cincinnati placement is down. 539 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 18: Bucker's kick leg three. 540 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 11: It is high enough and it is good. 541 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 19: Kansas City. Harrison Bucker another clutch kick against the Bengals 542 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 19: and the Chiefs win it at the buzzer twenty six, 543 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 19: twenty five and the Chiefs going to two and zero 544 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 19: on the year. 545 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: That was w daf and Midge Holtis. Harrison Bucker gets 546 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: it done again. I mean, how many of the biggest 547 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: games of the last handful of years just ended on 548 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: a Harrison Bucker seemingly anti climactic kick. Guy, What of 549 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: them happened against the Bengals that put them in the 550 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl? The Super Bowl obviously ended with one last year. 551 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: This one was a little more tense because the Chiefs 552 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: were trailing at the time, and yet after that pass interference, 553 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: which I know you'll want to talk about on fourth 554 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: and sixteen with forty eight seconds left happened, it just 555 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: felt like we were just wasting time until Bucker got 556 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: done again. 557 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, and actually it felt like a like a slow 558 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 6: march to death. If you're a Bengals fan, like it 559 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 6: was just, oh, here we are again. 560 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 12: We're in range. Now he's gonna make it. The game's 561 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 12: over once again. 562 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 6: I just checked by the way Harrison Bucker had a 563 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 6: fifty one yard to win a Day twenty twenty two 564 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 6: season AFC Championship game after the josepho side penalty that 565 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 6: knocks Patrick Mahomes out of bounds and puts him puts 566 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 6: them into field goal Rainzels a forty five yarder. 567 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 12: I mean, it's like you couldn't make it up how 568 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 12: similar they were. 569 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 6: This pass interference penalty, by the way, totally passing interference 570 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 6: on Di John Anthony. 571 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 12: It's unfortunate for them, but the. 572 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 6: Way that this game was played was so similar and 573 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 6: yet unlike their past meetings because the Chiefs kind of 574 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 6: had to win ugly, Like they had four accepted penalties, 575 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 6: but I could have counted a few more that were 576 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 6: declined or that It just seemed like there was a 577 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 6: long pass to Travis Kelsey brought back by a penalty, 578 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 6: kingsleys Uamanta, the left tackle getting smoked by Trey Hendrickson 579 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 6: to the point that they bention him in the fourth quarter. 580 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 6: It just felt like the operation saved for the forty 581 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 6: four yard touchdown past to rasheet. Rice was really difficult 582 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 6: for them. Every time something went well for them, something 583 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 6: brought it back or just got in the way, and 584 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 6: yet they found a way to do it in a 585 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 6: similar fashion. And that's got to just absolutely hurt Bengals 586 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 6: fans because they played well enough to win, especially after 587 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 6: the way they played in Week one. I mean, Joe 588 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 6: Burrow twenty three to thirty six, two fifty eight, two touchdowns, 589 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 6: fumbled the ball away, there was pretty much even turnovers, 590 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 6: you know, giveaways on both sides of the ball, six 591 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 6: lead changes I think in the second half in this game, 592 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 6: just back and forth. A classic game. But you know, 593 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 6: for as bad as the Bengals were a Week one, 594 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 6: there were a lot better this week. And yet they're 595 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 6: still zero to two and they're still on the short 596 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 6: end of the stick against the Kansas City Chiefs, and 597 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 6: now you just. 598 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 12: Wonder, are we ever going to get over this hump? 599 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 12: I don't know. 600 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: They the early season issues for Cincinnati continue, but I 601 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: feel like you got to extract that one and from 602 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: this particular narrative, because there was there was some it 603 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: felt playoffish to a certain extent, and lou An Romo 604 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 2: calls an incredible game, and of course there's gonna be 605 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: all these shots of de John Anthony after the game, 606 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: and people are frustrated about because he got way too 607 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: much depth on that particular play comes up and hits 608 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: Rashee Rice. 609 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: He played like five defensive snaps last week. 610 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: I just wonder why the Bengals, after playing such a 611 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: great game are rushing three in this instance, giving Patrick 612 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: Mahomes all this time because there was the third down 613 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: play where the play before that got called back because 614 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: of a penalty. The Bengals would have been better off 615 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: with that initial gain instead of the past interference on 616 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: Rashie Rice because it's it's just as Shook pointed out, 617 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: it's just so similar to the past where the penalty 618 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: puts Bucker in the range. And regardless of what he 619 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: thinks the role everybody else on the planet should be 620 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 2: his roles kicking field goal is pretty good at it. 621 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: Right, Patrick. 622 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 6: I lived my life by two key rules, okay, among 623 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 6: some One, if at all possible, do not wait in line. 624 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 6: Then two never rush three. And yet that's where they 625 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 6: found themselves, So they can only blame themselves for having 626 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 6: them in that situation where that occurs, like, you're absolutely right, 627 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 6: it's a bummer for them, but you're absolutely right, never rush. 628 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: Three because that allows Mahomes the time to set up 629 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: and everyone to get downfield. It's hard not to contrast 630 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: that approach to the Steve Spagnolo approach on a day 631 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: where they barely blitzed at all because they're afraid of 632 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, who's great against the blitz. They did send 633 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: the house on Burrow on the Bengals last offensive possession 634 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: to get the ball back on third down. So Spags 635 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: goes big, blitz wins, Bengals get conservative lose. Now, ana 636 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: Arumo will say, look, I got Hendrickson out there, winning 637 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: every snap, and actually we kind of did flush Mahomes 638 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: out pretty quick on that three man rush. So you 639 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: do also have to give Mahomes credit for being Patrick 640 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: Mahomes and setting up that play because I was ready 641 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: to rail against it then they actually kind of made 642 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: him move right away. But again, when it's only three rushers, 643 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: you only have to beat one guy if your Mahomes, 644 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: and he's so good at doing that. So much happened 645 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: in this game. I almost don't know where to start 646 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: because you mentioned, Yeah, Joe Burrows fumble that was a 647 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: return for a touchdown by the Chiefs defense, which normally 648 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: would be a decisive play. They also had a long 649 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: forty seven yard touchdown throw to Rashid Rice, Who's really 650 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: getting more vertical with his routes. That's not something he 651 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: was going to do last year. Like both of these 652 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: routes that he ran, one for the PI and one 653 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: for the touchdown were not routes he was running last year. 654 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: That shows growth. And yet Patrick Mahomes threw the ball 655 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: twenty five times, shook for one hundred and fifty one yards, 656 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: and he threw two interceptions on the day. So this 657 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: was kind of like last year's Chiefs and they did 658 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: run the ball pretty well. But Isaiah Pacheco ended up 659 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: leaving with an ankle injury. That's concerning. But what did 660 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: you make of the Chief's passing attack kind of being 661 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: stuck in mud a little bit like that? 662 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 6: You know, I came in with one key takeaway and 663 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 6: it was lou Anarumo is in a special group of 664 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 6: defensive coordinators that has somewhat of an answer for the 665 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 6: Kansas City Chiefs no matter what their offense evolves. 666 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 12: Into from year to year. 667 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 6: He always seems to have an answer until those final 668 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 6: moments when they need that one play to get into 669 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 6: field goal range, and the rest of the game he's 670 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 6: pretty much on top of it. And case in point, 671 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 6: the Keem Davis Gaither interception was an ugly interception as 672 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 6: if Mahomes didn't see him or they shifted coverage. I 673 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,959 Speaker 6: mean he was right there to take it easily. Then 674 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 6: he had Cam Taylor Britt talking trash about Xavier Worthy 675 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 6: this week, saying all he can do is run a 676 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 6: straight line really fast. He's in one on one coverage 677 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 6: down the sideline, makes one of the best interceptions you'll 678 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 6: ever see. And in between their generating pressure, now, the 679 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 6: Chiefs still ran the ball fairly well on the ground, 680 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 6: like it was a solid three to four per carry, 681 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 6: you know, nineteen for ninety for Pacheco, and you know 682 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 6: it's not like they were necessarily getting stopped there. But 683 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 6: when it came, you know, drive by drive, as this 684 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 6: game stayed close and stayed close, they were able to 685 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 6: get stops, they were forcing takeaways, they were doing everything 686 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 6: they needed to to give their offense opportunities. And on 687 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 6: the same you know, on the flip side of that coin. 688 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 6: Joe Burrow, he'd make a nice throw here, He'd make 689 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 6: a nice throw here. And then also they'd be in 690 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 6: the third down and Spags would blitz him and they'd 691 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 6: have to punt like it was just a great tug 692 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 6: of war type of game. I don't really take it 693 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 6: as like an indicator of the Chiefs offense. I think 694 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 6: that it's just Bengals have experience against them. They know 695 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 6: how to answer them, even as their offense changes over 696 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 6: the years, and I think it's going to always be 697 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 6: like that for as long as these coaches are on 698 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 6: these teams. 699 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: I disagree slightly Hollywood Brown, which is potentially going to 700 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: miss the rest of the season. That's news that dropped 701 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: since we last taped this podcast. He's out for a 702 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: long time now, he's on injured reserve. Yet he had 703 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: a setback. Rasie Rice is definitely better. Xavier Worthy ends 704 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: up with seventeen receiving yards in this game, four targets. 705 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: We'll see what kind of role he's ready for. It 706 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: so far hasn't been high volume. And then Pacheco leaves 707 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: in a walking boot and I think he said crutches Patrick, 708 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: So I think there are things to be worried about. 709 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: And then their left tackle Assue Mattea did not have 710 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: a good game. As you mentioned Wan who catches a touchdown. 711 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, so many things happened in this game, even 712 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: that it won interception by Taylor britt. If this was 713 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: a one sided game, that's what we would have led with. 714 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: That thing was incredible. Jamar Chase very quiet in this game. 715 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: Four for thirty five. My guy Yoshavas gets two touchdowns, 716 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: but only seven yards in a key drop right before 717 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: that big blitz I talked about by Spagnolo. Yoshavas had 718 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: a drop that could have kept that drive going and 719 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: you know you have the ball late. It kind of 720 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: reminded me a little bit of the Super Bowl Patrick 721 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: that they lost, where the Bengals had a bunch of 722 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: a couple of chances on offense to put it away 723 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: and for whatever reason just didn't execute. 724 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 3: Several And it wasn't just Joseavas. 725 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: Trenton Irwin had a ball hit him in the face 726 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: mask Yep, it could have extended a drive as well. 727 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 2: Just those but it's those type of mistakes where it 728 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 2: seems like, I know, it's it's cliche you can't make 729 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: them against Kesh. 730 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: Right. 731 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 2: If you do that, you survive against another team. But 732 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: that sliver of an opening like fourth and sixteen, it 733 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 2: just keeps happening with this particular team. 734 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: Well, let's listen to the fourth and sixteen call. I'm 735 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: just curious what the Bengals radio booth sounded like for 736 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: this one. Patrick, you mentioned John Anthony only played three 737 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: snaps last week. Just went and checked with their next 738 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: Gen stats crew. This was one of his three snaps 739 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: this week. This is technically doesn't count as a snap, 740 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: but only two steps that counted. And then this one 741 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: with the penalty. 742 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 20: Mahomes catches a shotgun snap, drops back, bouncing at the 743 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 20: twenty three scrambling left, stays behind the line, broken up. 744 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 20: There's a penalty flag on the Bengals rookie. 745 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 3: Wow, he's gonna call pass interference on that. 746 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 20: Rashi Rice was the intended receiver. Wow, at the thirty 747 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 20: five yard line of Cincinnati. 748 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: It's so frustrating to root against the Chiefs because I 749 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: follow a bunch of Bengals fans that were all like, 750 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: I can't believe they're letting them do that, Like, yeah, 751 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: was past interference, but I can't believe the Chiefs are 752 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: getting a wait, like, no one actually argues that this 753 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: was the right call. It just feels like we've seen 754 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: uh this story before, and it's familiar to the people 755 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: in the game too. Joe Burrow after the game was 756 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: very frustrated. How frustrated. 757 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 21: Was frustrating as I've had. Yeah, that's nice being back 758 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 21: playing ball, but you know this instincts a little bit. Yeah, 759 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 21: I thought I played fast and decisive today. Obviously got 760 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 21: a hold onto the ball. That one was disappointing, gifted 761 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 21: him six points, So that was frustrating. 762 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, desponded. Check. You seem to be in a 763 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: good mood though. I think you were happy that this 764 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: AFC North team lost. I know, I know Patrick was here. 765 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: He didn't want his Ravens, So I harbor zero bias 766 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: bias in this. 767 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 12: I I it was a thrilling game. 768 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 6: I think I just can't get over to the fact. 769 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 6: If you're watching on YouTube, the Joe Burrow looks like 770 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 6: he just stepped out of two thousand and one. 771 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: I like it. 772 00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 3: I like it. 773 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 12: These these game like a puka shell necklace and then 774 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 12: he's gonna beat there. 775 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: It is it really is telling though about he's in 776 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: the light ones, like it brings me back, though, like 777 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: the the box scores are like two thousand and one 778 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 1: against Like, like I know, there were actually weren't many 779 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: defensive stops in this game. So it's a little misleading 780 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: when you look at you know, four point eight yards 781 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: per game for the Chiefs five point two for the Bengals, Like, 782 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: that's not great. The Bengals have three hundred and twenty 783 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: yards Chiefs to eighty six, Like that's really low. And 784 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: yet it's mostly because they're having these long, drawn out 785 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: drives that sometimes end in points, sometimes then in turnovers. 786 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: But there's not many punts happening. But there's not a 787 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: ton of points either on offense. All right, let's move 788 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: on to a game where I expected the defenses to 789 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: dominate and it was not quite that way. Let's go 790 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: to Foxborough and listen to another game winner. 791 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 22: So thirty one yarder to win it from the left, 792 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 22: hash Mark Dixon puts it down, Myers gets it away. 793 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 22: Ayawks win the game, get over time against the Patriots. 794 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: And there are a lot of twelves with their arms up. 795 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 22: Right now saying yes, the Seahawks win they go to 796 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 22: two and oh under first year ahead coach Mike McDonald, 797 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 22: all the way across country. It comes down to four 798 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 22: and a half left to play in OG. The Seahawks 799 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 22: get the drive they need when they need it, and 800 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 22: they go. 801 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 10: To two and oh. 802 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: And a loss that's gonna hurt because you know, the 803 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: Patriots are wearing their very best uniforms. They bring back 804 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: the two thousand and one memories. Like I said, the 805 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: same sort of formula as a week ago. Oh, running 806 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: the ball so well, but for all the running and 807 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: the defense that you want, it's still a quarterbacks game. 808 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: And Gino Smith, to me, was the story in the 809 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,919 Speaker 1: league where the quarterback play has not been as great 810 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: this year, Gino has been about as good as I've 811 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: seen from any quarterback through two weeks. Thirty three for 812 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: forty four for three, one hundred and twenty seven yards 813 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: and a touchdown. In this game, when he held the 814 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: ball over two and a half seconds, thirteen for seventeen 815 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: for one point eighty four. The decisions were awesome. And 816 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: you might say, like you know, a couple of years ago, 817 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: that box score doesn't stand out to you that much, 818 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: but this is one where you got to watch the 819 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: tape because the interior pass rush was really poor. The 820 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: interior protection was really poor for Gino Smith in this game, 821 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: and he overcame it. The running game was absolutely terrible 822 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks. No Kenneth Walker in this game. Zach 823 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: Charbonnay ends up fourteen for thirty eight on the ground, 824 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: getting no help there at least four to five drops 825 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: in this game, and yet Gino just kept coming and 826 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: making difficult throws and a lot of times seemingly having 827 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: two plays when he goes up to the line of 828 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 1: scrimmage and picking the right one. I saw some charting 829 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: on the internet that he was the first quarterback that 830 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: they've charted to have forty plus dropbacks, an average depth 831 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 1: of target over eight yard, and zero off target throws charted. 832 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: So it's just like he was on point. And sometimes 833 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: a better pass is beating a good defense and the Chiefs, 834 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean, rather, the Seahawks escaped a really game effort 835 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: by the Patriots. 836 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve of fifteen Gino against the Blitz, one hundred 837 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 2: and sixty seven yards and a touchdown, just decisive, like 838 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 2: hawkeyeish out there with Zach. 839 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: One of those the last Blitz in that number was 840 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: in overtime on a third and seven where it looked 841 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,919 Speaker 1: like they were going to get tom Zach Charbnay makes 842 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: a nice play to avoid a tackle, and much like last. 843 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 2: Week where we saw like a seeing eyeball to Tyler Lockett, 844 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 2: they had a similar pass to Jackson Smith and Jigba 845 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 2: today and then over on the other side a solid 846 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 2: effort because Romandre Stevenson actually got out gained by Antonio 847 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 2: Gibson in this one. The Patriots ran heavy the whole game, 848 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 2: including my favorite play of the for the Patriots today. 849 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 3: They go wildcat on the goal line. 850 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacoby Brissett run out to his wide receiver spot 851 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 2: next to the sideline. Remandre goes to the quarterback position. 852 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 2: He looks over at Jacoby for the signal and Jacoby 853 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 2: looks back at him like you're playing quarterback, go you, 854 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 2: So they snap it to him. He scores a touchdown. 855 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 2: They take the lead on that play. But again, too 856 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 2: much Gino shook. It's just it's all Gino in the 857 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 2: In the Greg Rosenthal Bolt offer his love and adoration, Gino. 858 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 6: Smith WANs today I feel like I'm front row of 859 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 6: the Gino Coaster with Greg right next to me, screaming 860 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 6: the whole way down, arms up. 861 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: This is a blasts. 862 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 12: I'm having a great time, you know. 863 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 6: I think that there it's telling when you look at 864 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 6: the box score of this game that thirty of his 865 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 6: targets were shared between DK Metcalf and Jackson Smith and 866 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 6: Jigman and only two went to Tyler Lockett. Like that's 867 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 6: that tells me, all right, I know who I can 868 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 6: throw to and I know who's going to be open 869 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 6: based on what I'm seeing from this defense. So what 870 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 6: you're talking about with having two plays and picking from one, 871 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 6: that makes a ton of sense. Otherwise I'm thinking I'm 872 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 6: sitting here looking at going how did the Patriots rack 873 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 6: up three hundred and ten yards of offensive bset when 874 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 6: fifteen for twenty seven nine? 875 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 11: Oh? 876 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 6: Because, like you said, Greg, their backfield back in two 877 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 6: thousand and one, what is this Antoine Smith are we 878 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 6: looking at? 879 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 21: Like? 880 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: They were never actually good with Antoine Smith? 881 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 3: That was the thing. 882 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: He was like three point five yards per Carrious with Yeah, Givin, Yeah, 883 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: let's go more like Corey Dyllan that was sweet. Yeah, 884 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: Corydon that was the one. Uh yeah, Gibson and Ramandri 885 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: go for one to seventy eight combined. Hunter Henry goes 886 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: over one hundred yards, almost all that in the first half, 887 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: and the wide receivers for the Patriots combine, all of 888 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,959 Speaker 1: them combined for a total of nineteen yards. So they're 889 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: they have limitations on offense, and yet they're kind of 890 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: coaching around him. And that's why I think this one 891 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: will sting. I give Mike McDonald, they're coach a lot 892 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: of credit because, yeah, Henry's eating him up, and then 893 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: he moves Julian Love on Henry as an adjustment and 894 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,240 Speaker 1: they kind of shut him down. So, like, the Patriots 895 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: had a number of sequences where they could have put 896 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: this game way you would watch this game. It was 897 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: very clean, very few penalties, like like no dune turnovers, 898 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: like it was just looked like a good game between 899 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: two good teams, where the Patriots had like a little 900 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: bit of an edge for much of the second half. 901 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: But a key sequence was they were up three points 902 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: in the second half driving and Byron Murphy got a 903 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 1: sack of Jacoby Brissett on third and six. Byron Murphy 904 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: and Derek Hall both had great days and it was 905 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: such a quick pressure Jacoby had no choice. That backed 906 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: up the field goal, and then they blocked a forty 907 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: eight yard Joey Sly field goal. The Patriots then get 908 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: the ball back late in regulation, they actually make a 909 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: stop force a field goal, so it's tied, so they 910 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: get a chance to go win it with a two 911 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: minute drill, but again a Derek Hall quick pressure at 912 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: the end kills that drive. And then in overtime, the 913 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: offensive line can't get a yard on third and one. 914 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: The Patriots actually had the ball first, and I thought 915 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: Mayo chickened out a little bit. I know, he's a 916 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: defensive coach. He's probably not built for going for fourth 917 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: and one on his own thirty nine or so in overtime, 918 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: because yeah, if you don't get that yard, you basically 919 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: lose the game. And yet the way the game was going, 920 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: I just thought they're going to get a yard. Have faith. 921 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,879 Speaker 1: I know they didn't play before, but have some faith 922 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: in your offense. He did not, and they lost. 923 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's I mean, there's a million ways you can 924 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 2: split that. Of course, with the benefit of the hanside, 925 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 2: he should have gone. 926 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: I thought it at the time. I'm like, there's no 927 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: way they're gonna get a stop at this point, like 928 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: the Seahawks are gotta drive out for a field goal. 929 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 2: But you mentioned Julian Love. It was actually Julian Love 930 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 2: that blocked that field golf as well. So not only 931 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 2: does he come in and put the clamps on Hunter Henry, 932 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: who was the leading separation guy who is getting three 933 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 2: and zero point three yards of average separation for the 934 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 2: New England Patriots who really had trouble separating. Jaylenn Polk 935 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 2: had the touchdown as well, but just a tough offensive 936 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,720 Speaker 2: situation to deal with, and then Seattle's making those plays 937 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 2: that ultimately wins them the game. 938 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, fun Keon White ends up with a one point 939 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: five sacks and a fifty two. I mean, this Patriots 940 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: team has looked much better through two weeks than any 941 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: Patriots fans could have possibly expected. They kind of let 942 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: this one get away. And it's interesting there week one 943 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: starting left Taco Chucks, a corps for is no longer 944 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: with the team. This one sort of slipped under the radar. 945 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: I noticed it this morning that he just left. I 946 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 1: don't think he was happy that he was benched last week. 947 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of reporting about it, but he 948 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: was placed on the like did not report list, which 949 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: you don't normally see in week. No, I don't think 950 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: he was going to get the start this week. I 951 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: think he found that out. It was gonna be Verderian 952 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,879 Speaker 1: Low and he's no longer with the team, So Greg 953 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: in that vein. 954 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 6: I have one question for you, since you've seen, you know, 955 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 6: both these games up close and personal, how do you 956 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 6: analyze this offensive line that can clearly make space in 957 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 6: the run game but can't protect Jacobe Presett very well? 958 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: Oh, I think they were Their performance last week was overrated, 959 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: and they didn't protect Perset well this week. And I 960 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: just think it's like they're They're running backs are just 961 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: breaking a million tackles, like that's the last week. Ramondre 962 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 1: broke twelve tackles. Antonio Gibson was electric today, breaking tackle 963 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: after tackle after tackle, and Rimandre ran well too. So 964 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 1: I think the O line has been good enough, I 965 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 1: guess on the run game and quite bad in past protection. 966 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,720 Speaker 1: But they're limited and they're showing more more than we expected. 967 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: They've got a fun little Thursday night game against the 968 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,240 Speaker 1: Jets coming up. The Jets will be feeling good because 969 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 1: they will be coming off of victory fourth and goal 970 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: from the fourteen. 971 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 9: Takes the snap another four man rush, She back pedals, 972 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,439 Speaker 9: looks them. 973 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 5: Zone fire swad and it is bobbled and dropped short 974 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 5: of the goal line by Tyler Boyd. 975 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 1: He wouldn't have been in the end zone anyway. Seventeen 976 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: seconds to go. 977 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 5: The Jets have the takeaway on downs and they're gonna 978 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 5: win it here in Nashville. 979 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: W A x Q Bob with Jusey. Why are you laughing? 980 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 3: We had our second vomit of the That was it. 981 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: That was the vomit I was talking about. I don't 982 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: know who left that one. Someone on the Titans, the Jets. 983 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: Oh there it is. 984 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 12: This is why you gotta watch on YouTube. 985 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 3: Right here, We did six vomit replays on today. 986 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too much. A lot of vomit lately. Uh, 987 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: Like Muggy us Open had a lot of vomit going on, 988 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: Like Yannick Center was his vomiting all over the place. 989 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: That was a twenty four to seventeen victory by the 990 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: Jets over the Titans in Nashville, a game that was 991 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,479 Speaker 1: very entertaining all over the place. Never had a feel 992 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: of who was gonna win this game? Back and forth, 993 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: and I give Aaron Rodgers and this Jets team a 994 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: lot of credit because I felt like zho to two 995 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: with the Patriots coming up, like it just was getting 996 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: a little anxious there. And in the second half of 997 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 1: this game, there were a bunch of moments where someone 998 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: had to make a play and Aaron Rodgers and his 999 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 1: receivers made those play. There was a third and one 1000 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: to Garrett Wilson that was awesome where he throws it 1001 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: over Wilson's shoulder and he makes like a Willie Mays 1002 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 1: like a catch on a nice throw by Rogers. There 1003 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: was another third down conversion to Mike Williams late in 1004 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: this game where he made a really nice catch And 1005 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: these were just individual plays. It does not feel like 1006 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: the scheme is making them win. But when they needed 1007 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 1: to in the second half of this game, Rogers got 1008 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: it done. They were able to run the ball, and 1009 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: they were able to stop the run. All the things 1010 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: that they weren't able to do in Week one, and 1011 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: that what they weren't able to do in the first 1012 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: half of this game. 1013 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1014 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 2: Also in week one, Breze Hall had a couple of 1015 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 2: drops and then today he comes out makes a great 1016 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 2: catch in the end zone. The quick game really got 1017 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 2: active in the second half, which pressure for Rogers is 1018 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 2: something that we're going to watch all season long, coming 1019 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 2: off that Achilles injury. Under pressure in this game, he 1020 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 2: was two of five for six yards. 1021 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 1: He was zero for three last week. I think under 1022 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: pressure was the stat too, and he was really trying 1023 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: to get rid of it quickly after a while. 1024 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 2: Exactly, and so to avoid that, we're just trying to 1025 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 2: not have him under pressure at all. But the turnovers 1026 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 2: for will Levis dooming the Titans yet again, not as 1027 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,919 Speaker 2: disastrous as last week, but it was another situation where 1028 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 2: will Levis is trying to make a play on third 1029 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 2: down in the red zone, gets undercut, he's in mid 1030 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 2: air and he tries to shovel the all back to 1031 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 2: Tajy Spears and he wants up turn it over in 1032 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 2: the red zone. 1033 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 3: Just like, how do you get that out of a 1034 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:06,479 Speaker 3: particular player. 1035 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,439 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can, I don't know. After 1036 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,360 Speaker 1: the game, Callahan, you know, his coach Brian Kelly and 1037 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 1: said it was dumb. It was the exact same thing 1038 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: he did last week and he cost this points. It 1039 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,919 Speaker 1: is what is He's a grown up and he knows better. 1040 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: So I was really irritated. And yes, everyone who watched 1041 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: the game knew how irritated Callahan was when it was 1042 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: on the TV. 1043 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 8: Third in goal, lets looking, Levis trip, you're trying to 1044 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 8: shovel it that paul is free leve A chets Haven. 1045 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 8: We saw last week Levis trying to do too much 1046 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 8: that it just happened again. 1047 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: Williams jumps on top of it, the absolute clearest what 1048 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: the f are you doing? Lip reading going on there 1049 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: with Callahan? Great call there by I an eagle. Yeah, 1050 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: it's it's too bad shock because I know will Evis 1051 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: is gonna get picked on all week for that play. 1052 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: But he made a lot of really great plays in 1053 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: this game too, but that one is the one that 1054 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,439 Speaker 1: I'll remember the most. 1055 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 6: Oh, for the love of Tampa Bay, Jamis Winston. Will 1056 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,760 Speaker 6: I mean, you just went through a week of surrender 1057 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 6: Cobra shame online and then you go and do this. Look, man, 1058 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 6: hard habit. Their habits are hard to break, okay, and 1059 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,439 Speaker 6: this's gonna be a tough one for him to break. 1060 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 6: But I actually think that because I'm looking at the 1061 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 6: box score here and I'm thinking, man, this is a 1062 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,320 Speaker 6: very even game. Statistically, say for the turnovers, that's the differential. 1063 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 6: That's usually what's the difference in most football games. I 1064 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 6: mean even Bristol fourteen for sixty two, Tony Pollard seventeen 1065 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 6: for sixty two, like very similar. And then I come 1066 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 6: down to, all right, well, how did the Jets d 1067 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 6: up winning this game on the fourth quarter? Players who 1068 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 6: are experienced, who make plays and don't hurt their team, 1069 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 6: and that's the difference. Like that right there at Gold 1070 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 6: to Go situation, trying to do too much and you 1071 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 6: turn the ball over. Aaron Rodgers not trying to do 1072 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,399 Speaker 6: too much in certain situations where he's leading them back, 1073 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 6: you know, from a deficit or trying to take the 1074 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:51,879 Speaker 6: lead on the road. 1075 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 12: It's I think it's that simple. 1076 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,240 Speaker 6: And sometimes in these matchups, maybe he'll break that eventually 1077 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 6: as part of his maturation. 1078 00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 12: I just spoke highly. 1079 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 6: If Sam Darnold earlier, maybe we could have a similar 1080 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 6: trajectory with Will Levis. But as of right now, this 1081 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 6: is something you're probably going to continue to see until 1082 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 6: he gets pounded into his head that hey, stop doing that, 1083 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 6: just take the sack, don't hurt. 1084 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 12: Us that much. And it sounds like that was the 1085 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 12: difference in this game. 1086 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah it was, And yet look he ends up with 1087 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: thirty eight yards on the ground. One was a totally 1088 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,439 Speaker 1: great escape to set up an opportunity. Late in this game, 1089 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: he had a dime down the field to Calvin Ridley 1090 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 1: that would have been a long touchdown that goes right 1091 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: through Calvin Ridley's hands. And then he has another long 1092 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,240 Speaker 1: throw to Calvin Ridley that I mean is a beautiful 1093 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: throw is also fortunate that it somehow fit through like 1094 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 1: a seeing eyeball, like a key hold where Sauce Gardner was, 1095 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 1: and Calvin Ridley makes an incredible catch that was the 1096 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: kind of the experience of Calvin Ridley. He makes the 1097 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: impossible catch while diving, but doesn't catch the one right 1098 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: to him. And I thought, other than that play, Levis 1099 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: played pretty well in this game. But you know, he 1100 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: also throws interceptionally and it's just like, yeah, there's nothing perfect. 1101 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:07,919 Speaker 1: And yet just despite like what Levis did for this game, 1102 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 1: and despite the Jets winning this game, they don't feel 1103 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 1: great about it either because they lose Jermaine Johnson to 1104 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 1: what was quickly called an achilles injury. He was very 1105 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: emotional being taken off the field and it just that 1106 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,399 Speaker 1: did not look good. And then I think it didn't 1107 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,479 Speaker 1: get as much attention, but it did to me. CJ. 1108 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 1: Moseley got a toe injury in this game and was 1109 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: doubtful pretty quickly, and that's why I was impressed and 1110 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 1: surprised that their run defense turned it around. You mentioned 1111 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: how the numbers all looked the same shook, and that 1112 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: was right. But in the first half the Titans did 1113 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,800 Speaker 1: what I expected. They ran the ball really well and 1114 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,359 Speaker 1: the Jets couldn't do anything, and then the second half 1115 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 1: it was reversed. So I thought this was a nicely 1116 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 1: earned win by the Jets because, like I said, Rogers 1117 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: wasn't perfect, but when he needed to, those those one 1118 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 1: on one plays to Williams, to Garrett Wilson a couple 1119 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: of times, and then the touchdown to Breest Hall, they 1120 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,439 Speaker 1: were all impressive. And they took advantage of a punt 1121 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 1: block that was a massive moment in this game too, 1122 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 1: to set up a short field. And they have a 1123 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,399 Speaker 1: nice little backfield here with Braylen Allen, who gets two 1124 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 1: touchdowns in this game too, one as a receiver, one 1125 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 1: as a runner, and I think he's a real legit 1126 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: player here and yeah, a little fun, there's any football. 1127 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 1: Let's listen to Rodgers, who was in good spirits after 1128 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:23,439 Speaker 1: the game. 1129 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 2: What does first one is a jet uniform? 1130 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 16: Technically my second We all know that somehow that first 1131 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 16: one counts four important plays. Well I don't know if 1132 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 16: they count on that, but yeah, it feels great. 1133 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 3: It was great, the QB winning real conflict. 1134 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yet again the QB wins. You know, not a 1135 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 1: QB stat but a nice moment for Aaron Rodgers. All right, 1136 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: let's head to Jacksonville where you're Browns tried to get 1137 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 1: off the schneide from the. 1138 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 23: Thirty three eight seconds. Here's the snap, Lauren. It's under pressure, 1139 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 23: plushed out to the right, Lawrence off his back foot, 1140 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 23: lofting put corn of the end zone, knocked away incomplete. 1141 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,439 Speaker 1: No time, No time? Is that gonna do it? Yes, 1142 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: it's over. 1143 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 23: Kevin Stefanski runs the midfield and the Browns will survive. 1144 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: For the first time. It's Andrew Siciliano on w k 1145 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 1: r K eighteen thirteen. Browns get it done. It's time 1146 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 1: for the Sunday Drive presented by the all new Toyota Camry, 1147 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 1: and yes to you know you're along for the ride. 1148 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 1: Here shook and the Browns fans are didn't expect to 1149 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,239 Speaker 1: really sweat it late in this game, but you did no. 1150 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 12: Better car to ride into this bumpy journey than the 1151 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 12: Toyota camera. There we go, there's your plug. 1152 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 6: It was an up and down game for the Browns, 1153 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,879 Speaker 6: and in fact, the Browns left a lot of points 1154 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 6: on the field. Deshaun Watson did look better. He led 1155 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 6: a pretty strong opening drive. They commanded this game thanks 1156 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 6: to their defense. The twenty twenty three Browns defense returned 1157 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 6: to form on Sunday. Trevor Lawrence had a really rough 1158 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 6: go in the first half. It was really about I 1159 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,919 Speaker 6: think it was five for sixteen for like nineteen yards 1160 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 6: at one point before he hit a twenty four yard 1161 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,320 Speaker 6: pass to his tight end, and then the Jaguars found 1162 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,320 Speaker 6: life late third early fourth suddenly made it interesting. 1163 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 12: But again the Browns defense comes through. 1164 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 6: They'd been on the field for what felt like the 1165 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 6: entire game, even though Cleveland won the time of possession battle, 1166 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,800 Speaker 6: and they get a sack of Trevor Lawrence on for 1167 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 6: a safety which gives them an eighteen to thirteen lead, 1168 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 6: which is ultimately how they won this game. But they 1169 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 6: made it interesting, and it was a game that looked 1170 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 6: they'd still miss Nick Chubb like they had Jerome Ford 1171 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 6: seven for sixty four. Most of that was on one 1172 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,240 Speaker 6: long run on a fourth and short where Jameis Winston 1173 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 6: had had QB sneaked in a previous situation, and this 1174 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,439 Speaker 6: time they hit it off around the end. Deontay form 1175 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 6: was nice with fourteen for forty two, but this was 1176 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 6: very much not an offensive you know, spectacular there. It 1177 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 6: was just most of the Browns defense returning to form 1178 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 6: and limiting the Jaguars significantly for most of this game, 1179 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 6: and then just clinging on at the end this game 1180 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,920 Speaker 6: and nice roadwin amid a sometimes driving rainstorm in Jacksonville 1181 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 6: for the Browns. 1182 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 2: To get to one on one, and you mentioned shook 1183 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 2: them clinging on, there was almost an opportunity for them 1184 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 2: to not cling on. The Jags use their final time 1185 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 2: out with a minute and thirty seven seconds to go. 1186 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 2: They come back in and Kevi Stefanski has Deshaun Watson 1187 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 2: run a bootleg and DeShawn throws the ball away. Josh 1188 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,920 Speaker 2: Hans Allen is pressuring him the Jags didn't have any 1189 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,479 Speaker 2: more timeouts if he just slides down. 1190 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 3: Then they never even get to. 1191 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 2: The point where Trevor Lawrence is throwing the ball into 1192 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,840 Speaker 2: the end zone zeros on the clock. 1193 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 6: Not only did he run a boot leg, he ran 1194 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 6: a bootleg to the left side, like if you're going 1195 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 6: to roll a quarterback out, roll him to his throwing 1196 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 6: arms side. At least it felt like Stefanski trying to 1197 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 6: get a little gutsy in a situation and looked like, 1198 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 6: look at me, the big brain play caller, and it 1199 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:45,719 Speaker 6: almost blew up in their face. 1200 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 12: That happened to them a few times prior to that. 1201 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 6: Patrick The reason they were in that situation because they 1202 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 6: were on a methodical drive where they were gonna put 1203 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 6: that game away. Deontay Foreman is running hard, he picks 1204 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 6: up a first down and gets called for offensive face 1205 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,359 Speaker 6: mask and then all hell breaks loose. The Browns get 1206 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 6: called for back to back holdings and suddenly it's like 1207 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 6: third and thirty seven and that's the best thing they 1208 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 6: can come up with when they really should have been 1209 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 6: draining clock. 1210 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,320 Speaker 12: So again, fortunate to escape. 1211 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 6: But the Browns defense, after struggling mightily against Dallas last week, 1212 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,239 Speaker 6: does look more like it was before, and they get 1213 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 6: the job done. 1214 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at Watson, who throws the ball thirty 1215 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: four times for one hundred and eighty six yards. There's 1216 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 1: no en Joku in this game obviously because he's hurt. 1217 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper has eight targets for eleven yards. It's very early, 1218 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 1: but there has been some Amari Cooper is kind of 1219 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: the receiver Josh Jacobs, where his seasons are either like, hey, 1220 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 1: that guy should have maybe made All Pro or his 1221 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 1: fantasy owners are furious at him. And right now it's 1222 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 1: trending towards the fantasy owners are furious at Cooper. But 1223 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 1: we'll see, like, how do you feel about how Watson 1224 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: played in this game? And then yeah, Lawrence too going 1225 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 1: fourteen for thirty ends up hitting that big a big 1226 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 1: play to Brian Thomas who only makes big plays a 1227 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 1: sixty six yarder and a twenty eight yarder. I love 1228 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,439 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior. But yeah, to talk to me about 1229 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: how you thought Watson looked. 1230 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 6: Well the Cooper thing. First off, two big drops in 1231 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 6: two weeks. Watson put a ball on the numbers, a 1232 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 6: beautiful throw and he just dropped it. 1233 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 12: So that's concerning. 1234 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 6: He has not really gotten into a rhythm Watson did 1235 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,479 Speaker 6: a good job of building a rapport with Jerry Judy, 1236 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 6: who made a couple of really nice key catches on 1237 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 6: third down, including one that was like tipped in the air, 1238 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 6: and he managed to stay in bounce at the sticks 1239 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 6: for a first down the first half. 1240 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 12: That was encouraging to see Elijah Moore got involved. 1241 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 6: David Bell made a nice couple catches, but really, for me, 1242 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 6: from a Watson perspective, it was just the fact that 1243 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 6: he didn't look overwhelmed and sped up and like he 1244 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 6: had no idea what he was doing, which is primarily 1245 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 6: what he looked like in week one, more controlled, composed 1246 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 6: and put the ball on the mark for the most part, 1247 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 6: never really got out of sorts, scrambled a little bit, 1248 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 6: and did a much better job of kind of like 1249 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,200 Speaker 6: game managing, but a little bit more than that, which 1250 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 6: is anything positive for the Browns will take it considering 1251 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 6: where he's come from. 1252 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is encouraging. And these are two teams where 1253 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 1: to me it just especially with the fan bases, there 1254 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: was like a certain sort of desperate that just like, 1255 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: oh yeah, the vibes were really off for both teams, 1256 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: and the Jaguars now are the team where. 1257 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, the vibes are down horrendous. 1258 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 2: If you go back to week thirteen, the Jags have 1259 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 2: won one of their last seven games, and the team 1260 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 2: that they beat was the Panthers, So they're tied. 1261 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 3: That doesn't over that stretch that they get the tiebreaker 1262 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 3: because they have to win. 1263 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 1: They're gonna start maybe not even considering Panthers wins as 1264 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: actual wins in the standings. You'll get like three quarters 1265 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 1: of a win or something. Just because we we love 1266 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 1: Andrews so much. Let's listen to his call of a 1267 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,919 Speaker 1: big time safety in this game. 1268 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 23: Trevor Lawrence shotgun in the end zone with ETN to 1269 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 23: his right. First down, here's the snap back to throw 1270 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 23: under pressure. 1271 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 1: Alex Wright's got him. He throws them out of the 1272 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: back of the end zone. Safety. I love it. Built 1273 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 1: for that, absolutely also built for it, Nick suck. So, Nick, 1274 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do here. We're gonna give you just 1275 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: a little little bit of a breathe. It's like you're 1276 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs today. You have like thirty carries. You're gonna 1277 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 1: take the next couple of games off. We're gonna bring 1278 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: in Kevin Patrick for a couple and then we'll bring 1279 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 1: you back for the rest of the show. So we 1280 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 1: will see you in a second, and yeah, everyone listening, 1281 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 1: will be back with Kevin Patrick coming at you after 1282 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 1: the great and yeah, by the way, that was a 1283 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 1: Sunday Drive presented by the all new hybrid Toyota Camra. 1284 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Whatever your vibe, it's a camera vibe. Learn more at 1285 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 1: Toyota dot com. Slash Cameron. Yeah, back on NFL Daily 1286 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:47,520 Speaker 1: and back on the show, Kevin Patrick coming at you. 1287 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: So when we were the Around the NFL podcast, we 1288 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 1: often had Kevin Patra on on Sunday nights and he 1289 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 1: would often talk about the Lions. And that was a 1290 01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 1: tough era of Lions football. There was a whole season 1291 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 1: there where, yeah, it was hard to find wins. And 1292 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 1: I thought, we're gonna have Patrick back in in this 1293 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: new era of Lions football, and we're gonna talk bucks 1294 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,440 Speaker 1: Lions and it's gonna be great. And yet we're leading 1295 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 1: with the highlight of Baker Mayfield running around like he's 1296 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 1: Sonny Jurgensen. 1297 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 9: Empty backfield for Mayfield now picks that left leg barton 1298 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 9: the center, snaps the ball bill high. 1299 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a quarterback run by Bayfield. 1300 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 22: Inside the five, three to the two tall on touchdown 1301 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 22: Tapathay Baker Mayfield back to back runs and the Bucks 1302 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 22: we take the lead. 1303 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 1: W f us Jean decker Hoff, Yeah, Kevin, sorry about 1304 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 1: this one, but uh love having you on and uh 1305 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: just the Lions guy. You're an incisive analyst. So tell 1306 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 1: me where it went wrong for your guys here today. 1307 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 24: Well, let's put it this way. Todd Bowles crew came 1308 01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 24: in and out gritted Dan Campbell's got I mean the 1309 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 24: Lions gained almost two hundred and fifty yards more, twelve 1310 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,600 Speaker 24: more first sounds. The defense sacked of five times to 1311 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 24: zero sacks for the Bucks. It was just very lopsided 1312 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 24: and the Lions found a way to shoot themselves in 1313 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 24: the foot at every turn, basically, whether it was the 1314 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 24: end of the half, coming down and not getting a 1315 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 24: field goal that would have changed the complete context at 1316 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 24: the end of the game where they were now having 1317 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,120 Speaker 24: to go for a touchdown and instead of kicking a 1318 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 24: field goal to go up and have the lead. Late 1319 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 24: Jared Goff looked skittish again, kind of like he did 1320 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 24: last week, even though they didn't have any sacks. Every 1321 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 24: time he got pressure on him, he just threw it 1322 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 24: to No. 1323 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 10: One. 1324 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 24: His second touchdown was pretty bad. Either there was really 1325 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 24: bad miscommunication with where Tim Patrick was supposed to go, 1326 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,280 Speaker 24: or he just panic bailed and through it because there 1327 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:54,120 Speaker 24: was a guy in his face. 1328 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 1: Panic bailed is kind of what he does, even in 1329 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,440 Speaker 1: good times. They've done a good job protecting him. And yeah, 1330 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 1: he had those the turnovers last week. That's concerning. You 1331 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 1: mean the interception there, that the second interception by Goff, 1332 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, I didn't realize it was so dramatic. I 1333 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,440 Speaker 1: guess if you're gonna lose, you feel better about it 1334 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 1: if you more than double the other team's yardage. And yeah, 1335 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,560 Speaker 1: the Bucks only had two hundred and sixteen yards in 1336 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 1: this game, and yet you know they also were short 1337 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 1: a lot of players. Patrick, including via Devea, gets hurt 1338 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 1: in this game. 1339 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,560 Speaker 3: And it's not just that. 1340 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 2: Coming into this game, I thought that the Buccaneers had 1341 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 2: a great chance to win. Then we get the reports 1342 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 2: that Antoine Winfield Junior is going to be out for 1343 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 2: an extended period of time. And then, as you mentioned, 1344 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 2: Videvea goes down against the team that can absolutely run 1345 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 2: the ball against anybody, and you're thinking, well, here comes Detroit, 1346 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 2: but ultimately Baker Mayfield. The play before that touchdown run, 1347 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 2: there was another eleven yard run by Baker Mayfield, which 1348 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 2: is probably why he called his own number. On the 1349 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,439 Speaker 2: very next play, he puts his foot in the turf 1350 01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,720 Speaker 2: and absolutely dusts a defender. Just that nasty the right 1351 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 2: man from Baker Mayfield on the play before that. They 1352 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 2: made the plays down the stretch until until ultimately they did. 1353 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,919 Speaker 2: There's a weird decision where one of two teams today 1354 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 2: inside of a minute who inexplicably threw the ball when 1355 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 2: another team only had one time out. 1356 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 3: It gave Detroit another chance, but it was just it 1357 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 3: was too much Baker making key plays and key moments. 1358 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 24: Yeah, I think the Lions came in thinking they could 1359 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 24: throw the ball over that you know, hurt secondary, and 1360 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 24: then you didn't see them even really try to run. 1361 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,600 Speaker 24: And then vidave and it's like vitavea when I was like, oh, 1362 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,680 Speaker 24: we can run the ball now, and you got David 1363 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 24: Montgomery started getting going, and it just I understood the 1364 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,479 Speaker 24: game plan, but it clearly wasn't going to work, even 1365 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 24: even against the secondary. And credit credit Todd Bowles defense. 1366 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 24: They you know, they came and made some plays at 1367 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 24: the end, especially the secondary, but it just can't get 1368 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 24: out of this loss without thinking that the Lions pooped 1369 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 24: the bed. 1370 01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one that they will regret. The intercept 1371 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 1: for golf. Yeah, to me, here are pretty decisive in 1372 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 1: a game that they're moving the ball. But at halftime, 1373 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell speaks to Laura Oakman. You know, they're now 1374 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 1: required a few more in game interviews, and we actually 1375 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 1: got something pretty fun out of this one. 1376 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 3: Listen on the head coach here, all right, totally screwed. 1377 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 2: My team is at his mind, we're going for the Clockett, 1378 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 2: It's not a hurricane, and I made a decision that 1379 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 2: I shouldn't have made, and our team's gonna have to 1380 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 2: overcome it. 1381 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 3: That's the bottom line. 1382 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 1: M They did not, Kevin. That was like a game 1383 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 1: management situation where they kind of blew the clock at 1384 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,320 Speaker 1: the end of the first half. Like, yeah, what have 1385 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 1: you kind of thought about the Campbell experience and that 1386 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,840 Speaker 1: that situation and just just everything about how this team 1387 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 1: sort of started this season. 1388 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 24: Well, I mean, you take the good with the bat. 1389 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 24: I think Campbell does have that little game management issue 1390 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,280 Speaker 24: he always has. He's gotten better, but it's still something 1391 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:56,919 Speaker 24: that pops its head up every once in a while, 1392 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 24: kind of like the timeout in the San Francisco game 1393 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 24: in the playoffs when they could not afford to take 1394 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 24: a time out at the end at the end of 1395 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 24: the game. But you know, he also is himself, and 1396 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 24: he you know, went for a fake pun on fourth 1397 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 24: and twelve and is backed up in his own end 1398 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 24: zone and they went forward again on fourth down and 1399 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 24: then that drive stalled out. So I mean, you take 1400 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 24: the good with the bad. I think this team still 1401 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 24: has a lot of positivity. The offense needs to wake up. 1402 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 24: It still just looks a little off, a little rusty, 1403 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 24: because like last year, last week we saw a lot 1404 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 24: of offenses look rusty since they didn't play in the preseason, 1405 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,439 Speaker 24: and then they kind of kicked it into gear this week. 1406 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 24: The Lions are still one of those that I think 1407 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,040 Speaker 24: needs to find their way, and that's why I was 1408 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:37,920 Speaker 24: surprised that they didn't come out pounding the ball on 1409 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,160 Speaker 24: the ground, even against the good Bucks run defense. 1410 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jamison Williams has a long catch in this game, 1411 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 1: ends up with only five for seven to nine only. 1412 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good game. But after the big 1413 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 1: play early, you thought he might have right mon right, 1414 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 1: Saint Brown got a little banged up in this game, 1415 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 1: but he had eleven for one hundred and nineteen yards. 1416 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: So we'll just keep an eye on Saint Brown. And yeah, 1417 01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 1: just shout out to Chris gotto it. And I noticed 1418 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 1: that on tape last week that he's had a lot 1419 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,440 Speaker 1: of injuries in his career, and I thought he had 1420 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 1: lost some juice and it might be one of those 1421 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 1: things where he's now more than a year away from 1422 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,120 Speaker 1: those major injuries and he's got a lot of that 1423 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 1: juice back. Seven for one seventeen and he's so effective 1424 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 1: out of the slot. They have a great one to 1425 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 1: two combination. And look, the NFC South does a great 1426 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 1: one to two combination. We have two of the better 1427 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 1: teams in the league so far in the NFC South. 1428 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,080 Speaker 1: The Bucks are two and oh and the Saints are 1429 01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:35,080 Speaker 1: two and oh. After going to Dallas and put it 1430 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,840 Speaker 1: on the Cowboys, Derek Carr hit me. 1431 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 3: Under center's car play action for Jamal Williams is. 1432 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,800 Speaker 25: Looking deep, but he's drawing deep and he's going for 1433 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:46,920 Speaker 25: shaheed Shahey. 1434 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 1: Thanks the guts to fuck Goose, say good light a far. 1435 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,360 Speaker 3: No flax seventy yards. 1436 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:56,680 Speaker 2: You can be. 1437 01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 3: Greedy, my friend, because it makes fy touchdown. 1438 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 1: That is Mike Coss of w w L. Yeah, let's 1439 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 1: just throw a perfectly placed bomb to Receid to heat 1440 01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,160 Speaker 1: in the first quarter of every game this year, Derek Carr, 1441 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,839 Speaker 1: let's due fifty seven yard touchdown later to Alvin Kamara. 1442 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 1: In this game, they win forty four to seventeen. They 1443 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 1: put up thirty in the first half for the second 1444 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 1: week in row thirty five, this time actually five straight touchdows. 1445 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,880 Speaker 1: They start their season on offense when Carr has the 1446 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 1: ball with fifteen straight scoring drives. What the heck is 1447 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:41,680 Speaker 1: happening in this New Orleans Saints team, Kevin patra, I mean, 1448 01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 1: they are the story of the NFL through two weeks. 1449 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 5: They have to be. 1450 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:49,599 Speaker 24: And Clint Kubiak is already getting his own float. It's 1451 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 24: sort of it's gonna happen like they're gonna throw a 1452 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,760 Speaker 24: parade for him and only him. Because this offense is 1453 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,519 Speaker 24: completely different than what we saw last year. We hoped 1454 01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 24: that was gonna be the case coming in, but in 1455 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 24: the preseason and what we got was kind of like, ugh, 1456 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,080 Speaker 24: and you know, Dennis s Aalen kept saying, well, this 1457 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,080 Speaker 24: is what it's going to look like. But we don't 1458 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:10,519 Speaker 24: necessarily always believe what Dennis Salnd says. So but the 1459 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,080 Speaker 24: for through two weeks, they've been phenomenal. Like you said, 1460 01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 24: fifteen straight. They scored six straight touchdowns to open the game, 1461 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,040 Speaker 24: and it was over by then. I didn't even think 1462 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,920 Speaker 24: Dak played that badly. He got his receiver tripped on 1463 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,040 Speaker 24: the first interception and then he just was playing heave 1464 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,960 Speaker 24: ball with it during the second one. I didn't think 1465 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,760 Speaker 24: their offense played that badly. They just stalled out and 1466 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,240 Speaker 24: kicked field goals. But the Saints, when Alvin Kamara can 1467 01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,519 Speaker 24: get to the edge, it's just game over. And he 1468 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,679 Speaker 24: had one of those like magic runs that he usually 1469 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,760 Speaker 24: does where he came out through the other side of 1470 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 24: the hole that you didn't see and he just slid 1471 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,600 Speaker 24: off and tackler and he scored his fourth touchdown. Like 1472 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 24: he is a perfect fit for this offense. And I 1473 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,679 Speaker 24: think Carr is becoming confident. You can see the confidence 1474 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,960 Speaker 24: oozing from everyone. Every one, like Crystal Lobby is making 1475 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,880 Speaker 24: contested catches and blocking his butt off on the runs. 1476 01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 24: It's just up, up and down the roster. The offense 1477 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 24: has been ridiculous. 1478 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:06,920 Speaker 3: And also maybe Trevor Pinning was sandbagging last. 1479 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:12,320 Speaker 1: Year excellent, excellent, and training camp practices he was sandbagging 1480 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,120 Speaker 1: when everyone there was like he was struggling, and preseason 1481 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:15,839 Speaker 1: he was sandbagging. 1482 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean, just over the course of the game, you're wondering, like, hey, 1483 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,559 Speaker 2: are Micah Parsons and Tank Lawrence playing in this game? 1484 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 2: I mean there was a late I mean not not 1485 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,000 Speaker 2: a late hit, but Derek Carr did get hit, at 1486 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,200 Speaker 2: least he got touched on that touchdown pass to Rashid Shih'd. 1487 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 2: But but after that, just the play calls as well. 1488 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,760 Speaker 2: And oddly enough, Alva Kamara's uh seven touchdown game, excuse me, 1489 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 2: six touchdown game also came against the Mike Zimber defense. 1490 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,000 Speaker 2: And then he has a chance to get five Derek 1491 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 2: Carr sneaks one in instead of a handoff to Kamara, 1492 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:46,960 Speaker 2: but that could have easily been five touchdowns. It's just 1493 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,000 Speaker 2: like pick and choose what's going on here? And then 1494 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,479 Speaker 2: on the other side, yeah, I mean, Dak Prescott is 1495 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,679 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, right, they get pressure on him. He completes 1496 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,880 Speaker 2: almost all of his passes under pressure, gets a touchdown 1497 01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 2: as well, has a perfect passer hitting under pressure. But 1498 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:05,760 Speaker 2: as Patrick pointed out, there's just this's the second consecutive 1499 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,120 Speaker 2: game in AT and T Stadium where the team has 1500 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,800 Speaker 2: scored more than twenty eight points in the first half. 1501 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,600 Speaker 2: All right, the Packers came in and did it, and 1502 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,760 Speaker 2: the Saints have come in and done it again. You 1503 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,599 Speaker 2: changed defensive coordinators. It didn't seem to matter for Dallas today. 1504 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 24: Well, Dallas is the run game. I think is becoming 1505 01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,599 Speaker 24: an issue for no run game because they can't convert 1506 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,880 Speaker 24: those third and shorts and then they're kicking long field goals. 1507 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,320 Speaker 24: It's a massive zeke. There is a huge committee, Like 1508 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,720 Speaker 24: they all took like five snaps and like so there's 1509 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,040 Speaker 24: no there's no issue. And then by the time the 1510 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:35,840 Speaker 24: second half rolled around, they were just in chuck it 1511 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,880 Speaker 24: all over the park mode because they were down so much. 1512 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, be careful, you know it when you can't run 1513 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,280 Speaker 1: the ball, Like, it's hard to play with a lead. 1514 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 1: I think it is hard to make comeback because of 1515 01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,320 Speaker 1: what you said, you need to be effective in short 1516 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,519 Speaker 1: yarded situations, and I don't. I think they were just 1517 01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 1: pretty surprised, as we all are, for the Saints offense 1518 01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:58,680 Speaker 1: to put it on them like that in the first half. 1519 01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean, when Jamal Williams is going eight for thirty nine, 1520 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,639 Speaker 1: I'm just I think that's the blocking. Like I could 1521 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,599 Speaker 1: not believe watching the tape over and you can see 1522 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,280 Speaker 1: it in the highlights today too, from the Saints last 1523 01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:15,639 Speaker 1: week and then also today, how cohesive the offensive line 1524 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:19,719 Speaker 1: looks doing the zone blocking on those outside zone runs 1525 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,800 Speaker 1: because you can see it. You don't need to be 1526 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 1: an expert. The synchronicity is there. They're all running in 1527 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,559 Speaker 1: unison and Kamara is the perfect running back as you said, 1528 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,320 Speaker 1: Patrick for it. He has one hundred and seventy yards 1529 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:35,639 Speaker 1: from scrimmage in this game and four touchdowns. The agenda 1530 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:37,559 Speaker 1: that I've had the last two years that I've been 1531 01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,559 Speaker 1: put that have just been pushing that. Like I swear 1532 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,639 Speaker 1: if you watch the film, Alvin Kamara is not washed. 1533 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,560 Speaker 1: Like maybe he's missing that last little extra gear to 1534 01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,160 Speaker 1: take the long runs. But if he had some blocking, 1535 01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,880 Speaker 1: he would be getting eights and twelves and fifteens because 1536 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,679 Speaker 1: he makes guys miss and now he's not getting touched 1537 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,439 Speaker 1: for the first four or five yards. He's making good reads. 1538 01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,880 Speaker 1: He's one of the smarting smartest running backs I think 1539 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,559 Speaker 1: of all time. Let's just listen to another Alvin Kamara 1540 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,600 Speaker 1: touchdown call, just because it's fun to. 1541 01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,639 Speaker 3: Second and seven. Shihat in motion across the formations. Bar 1542 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,000 Speaker 3: takes the snaff most the thrown. Here comes pressure. He 1543 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:13,639 Speaker 3: hits Camara across the camera. 1544 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,559 Speaker 25: Win the wrong don't sign Dallas Coding thirty five Carty 1545 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 25: Gulla paka you la going against him, not Alvin Camaro, 1546 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 25: See you later, Bar touchdown Alvin Camaro fifty seven yards. 1547 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 1: This is a Saints offensive line that invested a lot 1548 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:34,800 Speaker 1: of high picks in their line, including Talise Fuaga, and 1549 01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,400 Speaker 1: it's it's happening. They were without marsha On Latimore in 1550 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,240 Speaker 1: this game and they still got it done. Tyron Matthew 1551 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 1: another game where he gets a turnover, So that's two 1552 01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,439 Speaker 1: weeks in a row. Kind of keeping an eye on, 1553 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,840 Speaker 1: like every three or four years, Honey Badger pops up 1554 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,679 Speaker 1: with like a first team All Pro year. He's gonna 1555 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:54,080 Speaker 1: have one of the craziest Hall of Fame canadacies someday 1556 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 1: because he's got the first team All pros and the 1557 01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,600 Speaker 1: game changing plays in the Super Bowl ring to do it. 1558 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,280 Speaker 1: So this could be a monster season for him. And 1559 01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,040 Speaker 1: just before we go, I just want to mention every 1560 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,160 Speaker 1: week on this show, I'm gonna mention what's the throw 1561 01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:11,200 Speaker 1: of the year so far? Because people were questioning me 1562 01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,800 Speaker 1: when I said Anthony Richardson had that throw in the 1563 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,760 Speaker 1: first quarter of the first game of the year, and 1564 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,519 Speaker 1: I said that might be the throw of the year. 1565 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,519 Speaker 1: And every week on this show, we're going to have 1566 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:24,080 Speaker 1: a belt for what the throw of the year. And 1567 01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 1: the candidate for this week is that car throw that 1568 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:32,559 Speaker 1: we led this game with to Shahed in stride while 1569 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,800 Speaker 1: getting hit, just before getting hit, all the way down 1570 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,880 Speaker 1: the heel the field to Shahed. Do you guys think 1571 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 1: that is a better throw than the Anthony Richardson throw 1572 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:43,599 Speaker 1: from week one? 1573 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:43,800 Speaker 26: No? 1574 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 1: No, okay, it was great. It was the best one 1575 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,760 Speaker 1: I saw today. You know, someone can come at me 1576 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,679 Speaker 1: if they saw someone better. That was a ridiculously good throw. 1577 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,679 Speaker 1: But Rat Richardson keeps the belt. He's got the belt 1578 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 1: for at least oh and two. But he's got the 1579 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,880 Speaker 1: belt one more week. Uh, Patra, you're keeping the belt there. 1580 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 1: I know you're playing somewhat hurt tonight. There's you know, 1581 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,360 Speaker 1: family drama going on there with just a just. 1582 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,720 Speaker 24: A baby sick. No drama took us a sick just 1583 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:12,400 Speaker 24: a sick toddler. 1584 01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just say it like you're gonna give me 1585 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 1: in trouble. Vomiting was the theme of Uh, we've had 1586 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 1: a good bit of it season. And yeah, I love 1587 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,560 Speaker 1: uh love that picture in your background of you and 1588 01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 1: and your beautiful wife, uh Bree. And so it's great 1589 01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,639 Speaker 1: to have you on NFL Daily, Patra, and we will 1590 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,639 Speaker 1: do it again. So we're gonna say goodbye to Patra 1591 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 1: uh for a minute. We're gonna welcome uh Nick shook 1592 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,240 Speaker 1: Beck in on the other side, and we're gonna hear 1593 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:42,400 Speaker 1: one of my favorite touchdown calls of the entire day 1594 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:43,720 Speaker 1: in Arizona. 1595 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,280 Speaker 9: Snap to Murray three step drop looking left now in trouble, 1596 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,880 Speaker 9: spins left now, steps up, running left, Murray breaks a 1597 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 9: tackle looking ends on firing left side, a sliding. 1598 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 11: Touch for a touchdown, and it's Higgins making the grab. 1599 01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:03,320 Speaker 1: Tyler Murray does it again. More Murray magic. 1600 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:08,000 Speaker 9: I have absolutely no idea what to say about bad play. 1601 01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't either, because when you drop up the dot, 1602 01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,439 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's dot just goes in a figure eight and 1603 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 1: then around and through and it was part of what 1604 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,639 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say. It was a magical first half 1605 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:30,040 Speaker 1: by this Cardinals offense. The Cardinals get it done forty 1606 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:35,679 Speaker 1: one to ten. Kyler Murray has a perfect passer rating 1607 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 1: on the day, first Cardinals quarterback to do that since 1608 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner. It was thirty one to three early in 1609 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,479 Speaker 1: the third quarter before the Rams even touched the ball 1610 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:52,000 Speaker 1: after halftime, and everything that the Cardinals wanted to be 1611 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,639 Speaker 1: this year was in this game. James Connor, Kyler Murray, 1612 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,800 Speaker 1: and Amari de Marcado combined to rush for two hundred 1613 01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:01,840 Speaker 1: and two twenty seven yards just between the three of them, 1614 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,000 Speaker 1: which is that's big time on only twenty eight carries. 1615 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,599 Speaker 1: And it wasn't like a bunch of forties in a fifties. 1616 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,919 Speaker 1: It was a whole lot of eight and tens and twelves. 1617 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:15,719 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray also five for five on throws over twenty 1618 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 1: air yards for one hundred and fifty six yards and 1619 01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,600 Speaker 1: three touchdowns. I mean, he was just incredible. Patrick. And 1620 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,160 Speaker 1: we'll get to the negative Rams side of this, but 1621 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,040 Speaker 1: I do just want to give the Cardinals their full 1622 01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,320 Speaker 1: amount of love. They've been in the darkness here for 1623 01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,760 Speaker 1: a little while, and it really feels like this is 1624 01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,120 Speaker 1: a matchup. They've been blown out so many times that 1625 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,519 Speaker 1: maybe this is their time. That's like, hey, we're not 1626 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,040 Speaker 1: one of the worst teams in the league anymore. 1627 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:43,000 Speaker 2: No, And it was emphatic Kyler tweeting a yawn emoji 1628 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,760 Speaker 2: like seconds after the game ended. They couldn't get to 1629 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,160 Speaker 2: him on the touchdown that you mentioned. And then all 1630 01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:53,000 Speaker 2: the talk coming off of last week didn't see Marvin 1631 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:56,479 Speaker 2: Harrison Junior in the end zone, people taking his quote 1632 01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,600 Speaker 2: out of context of him saying, hey, it's not my 1633 01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,840 Speaker 2: job just to feed Marvin Harris and it's my job 1634 01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:01,559 Speaker 2: to read the defense. 1635 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,880 Speaker 3: Well, he did both. He did both today had the 1636 01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,479 Speaker 3: bomb to Marvin and then it's. 1637 01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:09,160 Speaker 1: Just four for one, thirty for two touchdowns for Marvin Harrison. 1638 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:10,760 Speaker 1: I probably should have mentioned that too, like there were 1639 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,519 Speaker 1: so many superlatives. 1640 01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,120 Speaker 2: To get to, but ultimately it's it's just one of 1641 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,439 Speaker 2: those things where healthy Kyler, you have to defend the 1642 01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,639 Speaker 2: play twice and we said that a lot of guys 1643 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:24,840 Speaker 2: run nobody scrambles like this where on the play you mentioned, 1644 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,320 Speaker 2: there's three guys diving at diving at his ankles and 1645 01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,920 Speaker 2: getting nothing but air, and then Kyler just pops right up. 1646 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:36,280 Speaker 2: He's he's neo matrixing, dodging people with his slides, like 1647 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,040 Speaker 2: when he puts it all together shook. It's like, wait, 1648 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:40,679 Speaker 2: how do they not win every game? 1649 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,840 Speaker 6: So I live near a cemetery here, and I promise 1650 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,400 Speaker 6: this will be connected. And I often spend my time 1651 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,639 Speaker 6: watching cats, groundhogs and squirrels chase each other around this cemetery. 1652 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,880 Speaker 6: That is Kyler Murray scrambling. You can pick any one 1653 01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 6: of those three creatures. That's Kyler Murray scrambling. You can't 1654 01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 6: catch him. 1655 01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,160 Speaker 1: Wait, you can't see that while walking by er? Do 1656 01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,240 Speaker 1: you go there to seek it out? Just for some 1657 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 1: like late night under Oh no, it's. 1658 01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 12: In view from the home. 1659 01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 1: I see it all the time. 1660 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,479 Speaker 6: And before the trees got cut down, the groundhogs used 1661 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,559 Speaker 6: to climb the trees. It's crazy out here in Cleveland. 1662 01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,320 Speaker 6: But that is Kyler Murray scrambling. And the beauty of 1663 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,479 Speaker 6: it is that he knows how to keep his eyes downfield. 1664 01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,559 Speaker 6: We saw this last week in Buffalo, and as I'm 1665 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,320 Speaker 6: watching that game, I'm thinking, Man, I can't wait to 1666 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,000 Speaker 6: watch this guy play football all year. I think I 1667 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,160 Speaker 6: even wrote that in QB Index, which you can check 1668 01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 6: out at NFL dot com slash QB index. 1669 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:24,559 Speaker 1: Nice plug. 1670 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:26,760 Speaker 12: And so I'm looking forward to. 1671 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,560 Speaker 6: This game and I turn it on and before you 1672 01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,920 Speaker 6: know it, it's fourteen to nothing and it's two touchdown 1673 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:32,800 Speaker 6: passes to the guy that he couldn't see last week 1674 01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:37,120 Speaker 6: in as Gus Johnson has famously called him, Maserati mars 1675 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,080 Speaker 6: like Marvin Harrison gets going, he's force feeding him early 1676 01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:41,920 Speaker 6: and then he just settles into the offense and they're 1677 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,240 Speaker 6: a machine rolling through the rams like they had no 1678 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,400 Speaker 6: answer for him. So it's a beautiful thing to watch 1679 01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 6: Kyler when he's healthy, operate this offense and see the 1680 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,920 Speaker 6: Cardinals kind of just develop under Jonathan Gannon and take 1681 01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 6: these next step forward. I'm not gonna say they're gonna 1682 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,760 Speaker 6: put this type of point total up every week, forty 1683 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,479 Speaker 6: one points. You don't see that every week from every team. 1684 01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,720 Speaker 6: But that is, like like Patrick said, you got to 1685 01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,559 Speaker 6: defend the plate twice. That's what makes him special. That's 1686 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,360 Speaker 6: why they paid him that money, and that's why I 1687 01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,120 Speaker 6: think we all forgot about him last year because he 1688 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:08,920 Speaker 6: was you know, hurt for the first half of the 1689 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,280 Speaker 6: year coming back from injury, and now we should all 1690 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:12,760 Speaker 6: be paying attention to then, not because they're gonna win 1691 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,479 Speaker 6: a ton of games necessarily, but because they're gonna be 1692 01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,680 Speaker 6: fun to watch. Now we start to finish every week 1693 01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:17,759 Speaker 6: because of Kyler Murray. 1694 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,360 Speaker 1: Who knows. Now this is a division matchup, and we'll 1695 01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,080 Speaker 1: see how the defense holds up every week. They got 1696 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,120 Speaker 1: they got after Matthew Stafford. In this game, the Rams 1697 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,600 Speaker 1: only with two hundred and forty five total yards. The 1698 01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals go seven point nine yards for play, four hundred 1699 01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,799 Speaker 1: and eighty nine yards. That's some twenty nineteen stats. 1700 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:31,120 Speaker 3: Bring it. 1701 01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:35,960 Speaker 1: Bringing offense back the Arizona Cardinals. I absolutely love it well. 1702 01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:37,920 Speaker 2: Coming into the game, the reason I picked the Rams 1703 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,240 Speaker 2: was because the Rams young defensive line played great against 1704 01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,920 Speaker 2: Detroit and I asked who was going to provide pressure 1705 01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,840 Speaker 2: for the Arizona Cardinals. They answer was Dennis Gardnick. Yeah, 1706 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,760 Speaker 2: he had three sacks today. He got pressure on twenty 1707 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,759 Speaker 2: five percent of his pass rushes. He got four pressures. 1708 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:54,920 Speaker 2: So you do the map, he's only he's only got 1709 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,960 Speaker 2: twelve pass rush snaps and he's coming through getting three 1710 01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,880 Speaker 2: sacks out of those getting all those barbarians. They were 1711 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,559 Speaker 2: solid on defense on Zavian Collins played a good game 1712 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,679 Speaker 2: as well and just really bothered the Rams. 1713 01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,680 Speaker 3: But the issue with the Rams is that they've all 1714 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,760 Speaker 3: fallen apart Gregon. It's hard hurt. They're so hurt. 1715 01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,880 Speaker 1: Right, So rob Havenstein does return for this game. He's 1716 01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:19,479 Speaker 1: their swing tackle, but they've had so many injuries up front, 1717 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,680 Speaker 1: and then they lose Cooper Cup during this game to 1718 01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 1: what was called an ankle injury. He was seen leaving 1719 01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,360 Speaker 1: with a boot. It happened on his last catch of 1720 01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,000 Speaker 1: the game, which was I believe it was the second 1721 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,840 Speaker 1: quarter where was a twenty four yard catch and run 1722 01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,360 Speaker 1: and defender fell on his ankle. He ends up with 1723 01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,519 Speaker 1: four for thirty seven. So suddenly you know, DeMarcus Robinson 1724 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,640 Speaker 1: to two at well. Jordan Winnington and Tyler Johnson are 1725 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:46,519 Speaker 1: the receivers. The running game gets absolutely nothing done. Kyron 1726 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,439 Speaker 1: Williams actually gets out gained by Blake Korham because they 1727 01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:53,799 Speaker 1: gave Koram some garbage time snaps late when they finally 1728 01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,160 Speaker 1: took Stafford out. One of those guardex sacs was a 1729 01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,760 Speaker 1: force fumble on Stafford with like a minutes left when 1730 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,839 Speaker 1: they're trailing forty one to ten. It was absolutely crazy 1731 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,080 Speaker 1: that he was still playing at that point when this 1732 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,200 Speaker 1: is the team that doesn't play any of their guys. 1733 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,880 Speaker 1: Just a brutal day for the Rams, and it's gonna 1734 01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,559 Speaker 1: get more brutal because if they listened to our text 1735 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,519 Speaker 1: report here from Jordan Rodrieg. Of course NFL dailies Jordan 1736 01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:23,519 Speaker 1: rodrig she's texting her thoughts from Rams game, and well, 1737 01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:27,479 Speaker 1: she seems pretty harsh and I get it, like she 1738 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,439 Speaker 1: writes the Arizona Awards Offensive Identity and these are her 1739 01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,040 Speaker 1: words on its sleeve. At the end of last year, 1740 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,639 Speaker 1: all spring and summer, and the Rams defense still seemed 1741 01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:39,360 Speaker 1: totally unprepared to counter the heavier stuff and their run multiplicity. 1742 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,720 Speaker 1: Jordan says, I even asked Reley about this directly last week, 1743 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,639 Speaker 1: and they just did not seem prepared going ball control. 1744 01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:52,160 Speaker 1: He acknowledged all that, and they still look so unprepared. 1745 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,920 Speaker 1: Sean McVay didn't directly answer when I asked him if 1746 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:58,440 Speaker 1: he felt his defense was adequately prepared for how Arizona 1747 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,400 Speaker 1: would attack them. I am a gas that a team 1748 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,640 Speaker 1: so often ahead of the schmatic curve doesn't seem to 1749 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,840 Speaker 1: be built to counter heavier run concepts and personnel so 1750 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 1: many teams are using. And yeah, when you think about 1751 01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,920 Speaker 1: who's in the division, the forty nine Ers will certainly 1752 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,280 Speaker 1: send some of that. So this Rams run defense kind 1753 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:16,880 Speaker 1: of got ran off the field at the beginning of 1754 01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,439 Speaker 1: the game. And yeah, Jordan mentions also the offensive line 1755 01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,600 Speaker 1: was a disaster. One of the worst Rams games that 1756 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,840 Speaker 1: you can possibly imagine. Zero to two for the first 1757 01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:30,840 Speaker 1: time since two thousand and eleven, and somehow this is 1758 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 1: their first loss at Arizona since twenty fourteen, and yeah, 1759 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,360 Speaker 1: giving up forty one points doing it. They have the 1760 01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,320 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers next week, and so it's getting late 1761 01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:45,720 Speaker 1: early for the Rams. That is also true of the 1762 01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,519 Speaker 1: home team. In the next game, we're gonna talk about 1763 01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 1: the paper bags were out in Carolinas. 1764 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:54,680 Speaker 27: To Dobbins trying to stretch it. 1765 01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:55,559 Speaker 3: It's got the corner. 1766 01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:59,080 Speaker 5: Dobbins left sideline thirty twenty one man to be cuts 1767 01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:05,880 Speaker 5: in side ten by the episode Touchdown, Chargers. 1768 01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:15,520 Speaker 28: Shake k Dobbins, Gary Anderson Brooks. That was Gary Anderson 1769 01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:17,599 Speaker 28: old school flip into the end zone. 1770 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:24,920 Speaker 1: I love the reference by Matt money Smith and Daniel 1771 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:32,120 Speaker 1: Jeremiah k y Sr Dickey Dobbins with the forty three 1772 01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,160 Speaker 1: yard touchdowner. I guess he's just gonna have like a 1773 01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:39,200 Speaker 1: big ol' run. Every single week's Dobbins Nation population at 1774 01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,960 Speaker 1: least two. Me and Spice Rack. We're loving it. But 1775 01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,479 Speaker 1: everyone's welcome. If you listen to the NFL Daily, you're 1776 01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:48,200 Speaker 1: in Dobbins Nation too. Phil Wesseling a big Ohio State fan. 1777 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,120 Speaker 1: I know he's a big Dobbins guy. Making it happen. 1778 01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 1: This was exactly Patrick how Jim Harbaugh would want to 1779 01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:58,120 Speaker 1: draw it up. Just squeeze the life out of him, defensively, 1780 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,639 Speaker 1: run the ball for what two hundred and nineteen yards 1781 01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,400 Speaker 1: and the kind of a ho hum twenty six to 1782 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:04,439 Speaker 1: three victory for the. 1783 01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,400 Speaker 2: Chart And on that flip into the end zone where 1784 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,840 Speaker 2: JK Dobbins lands directly on his back. After the game, 1785 01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,600 Speaker 2: Joe Ortiz, the GM for the Chargers, said, hey, no 1786 01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:18,080 Speaker 2: more flips. JK dobbins flipping career into the end zone 1787 01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,839 Speaker 2: comes to a close and his yards per carry craters. 1788 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:23,200 Speaker 3: He was at thirteen last week. 1789 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,519 Speaker 2: Now he's down to a pedestrian seven point seven yards 1790 01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,920 Speaker 2: per carry. In this resurgent comeback, season comeback Player of 1791 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:33,800 Speaker 2: the Year candidate early on JK Dobbins, and really there 1792 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,400 Speaker 2: was only a couple of bright spots for Carolina in 1793 01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:37,760 Speaker 2: this game. 1794 01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:38,080 Speaker 4: J C. 1795 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,679 Speaker 2: Horn had an interception, then comes right back, gets toasted 1796 01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,439 Speaker 2: by Quentin johnston Is hand fighting him down on the 1797 01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,400 Speaker 2: goal line. Justin Herbert hits him for a touchdown. Pass 1798 01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,800 Speaker 2: there there was. It was very difficult for Bryce Young 1799 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:52,599 Speaker 2: and the offense to really get anything going. He throws 1800 01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:56,960 Speaker 2: ball twenty six times, eighteen completions for just eighty four yards. 1801 01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,960 Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson had had some issues getting away from defenders. 1802 01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,800 Speaker 2: Adam Thielen beats him in that regard, but again, there's 1803 01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,120 Speaker 2: not a lot of passing numbers to go around. And 1804 01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,840 Speaker 2: then Chewba Hubbard gets six point four yards of carry. 1805 01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,960 Speaker 2: Some of that comes late. It's just where do you 1806 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,880 Speaker 2: find the positivity for Carolina. Dave can Allis comes out 1807 01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:18,080 Speaker 2: after the game says Bryce is still our quarterback. 1808 01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,280 Speaker 3: So there's that they're sticking with none. 1809 01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:24,240 Speaker 1: It's crazy that we're in week two and he's saying 1810 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 1: that about the number one overall draft pick from last season. 1811 01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,840 Speaker 1: You know, I feel bad for him, obviously. It's uncomfortable 1812 01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:34,479 Speaker 1: to watch. He just seems a little out of it, 1813 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,280 Speaker 1: And I think it shouldn't get lost that these two 1814 01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:42,080 Speaker 1: games this year are magnitudes worse than his average game 1815 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,800 Speaker 1: last year, and I would say would rank maybe even 1816 01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,360 Speaker 1: worse than anything we saw. Let's put up just the 1817 01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:51,640 Speaker 1: next and chart of his passes. If you have him 1818 01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,439 Speaker 1: eric behind the glass, and you just see a guy 1819 01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:58,639 Speaker 1: that literally didn't attempt a pass that went over twelve 1820 01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:03,519 Speaker 1: air yards, much less complete one. Everything is near the 1821 01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,679 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, like like Patrick said, twenty six attempts 1822 01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,720 Speaker 1: for eighty four yards and he just looked lost. He 1823 01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,559 Speaker 1: was asked about a possible, you know, lack of confidence 1824 01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,439 Speaker 1: after the game, and he said he was confident in 1825 01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,840 Speaker 1: the Lord. And I just see almost even with his 1826 01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,840 Speaker 1: like footbar footwork. My friend dat boy Wolf on Twitter 1827 01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,000 Speaker 1: pointed this out, but I was watching it too, Like 1828 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,120 Speaker 1: even his drop look like his drop back from center 1829 01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,040 Speaker 1: and shotgun look weird, like they're in slow motion. Just 1830 01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:35,320 Speaker 1: something's funky here, shook. And I actually think it would 1831 01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,840 Speaker 1: help him maybe to sit him down for a couple 1832 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,400 Speaker 1: of games. But I guess, why would you think it 1833 01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:41,880 Speaker 1: would be better when he comes back? I don't know, 1834 01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:43,439 Speaker 1: it's just a very difficult situation. 1835 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,320 Speaker 12: That's the issue. Is the only way you're gonna get 1836 01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:46,240 Speaker 12: better is getting more reps. 1837 01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,560 Speaker 6: Like it's just you worry if I think about this 1838 01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:50,360 Speaker 6: with Justin Fields and the way he played in Chicago, Like, 1839 01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,040 Speaker 6: are you gonna break him? I don't know if the 1840 01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 6: Bears broke him, but I'm worried that the Panthers are 1841 01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,080 Speaker 6: breaking you know, Bryce Young with the way that he's 1842 01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,320 Speaker 6: played so far this year and last year, because for 1843 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,920 Speaker 6: you to describe his first two starts as exponentially worse 1844 01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:02,960 Speaker 6: than last year last year was already really ugly. I 1845 01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,720 Speaker 6: look at the pressure numbers today, one for six or 1846 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,479 Speaker 6: fifteen yards in a pick, and he's clearly not comfortable, 1847 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,280 Speaker 6: you know, in the pocket or at the speed of 1848 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,200 Speaker 6: this game. And it's only getting worse for them. So, like, 1849 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,080 Speaker 6: where do you go from here other than continue to 1850 01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,400 Speaker 6: play him and hope that something turns around. Dave Canalis 1851 01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:17,559 Speaker 6: is supposed to be the guy that's going to get 1852 01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,320 Speaker 6: him back on track, and through two weeks they've been 1853 01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,960 Speaker 6: completely uncompetitive. They have not stood a chance against either 1854 01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,160 Speaker 6: of these teams they've played, and it seems like Bryce 1855 01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,280 Speaker 6: is only getting worse. So the only thing you do 1856 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,840 Speaker 6: is keep trying. And before you define insanity, I guess right. 1857 01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:33,320 Speaker 1: His literal first throw of this season, I don't want 1858 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,439 Speaker 1: to get it lost was an interception that was last week, 1859 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,200 Speaker 1: like his first throw, his second play of the season. 1860 01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:45,599 Speaker 1: Last week he ran into his own teammate butt fumble style. 1861 01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,479 Speaker 1: He didn't fumble the ball, but he ran into like 1862 01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,639 Speaker 1: it was just almost like he started with this crazy 1863 01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,920 Speaker 1: negativity and then today the game starts five for seven. Okay, 1864 01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:59,240 Speaker 1: that sounds good for twelve yards an interception, we go 1865 01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,599 Speaker 1: positive to get to the tar side of it, Yeah, 1866 01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:02,280 Speaker 1: Patrick or no? 1867 01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,639 Speaker 2: You want to talk price, Well, I mean it's it's 1868 01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,040 Speaker 2: a negative for the Panthers, but it's it's the fact 1869 01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,760 Speaker 2: that it's not that like their defense is keeping them 1870 01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:13,040 Speaker 2: in these games and then Bryce is wrecking them at 1871 01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,840 Speaker 2: the end. Quinton Johnston's second touchdown. We had two Quinton 1872 01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,920 Speaker 2: Johnston touchdowns today for the Chargers. He's running across the 1873 01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,120 Speaker 2: zone in the back of the end zone and the 1874 01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,559 Speaker 2: Panthers defenders just release him to turf. It's like, all right, 1875 01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,400 Speaker 2: the turf will get that guy. And the turf did 1876 01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:29,040 Speaker 2: not get that guy. 1877 01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,880 Speaker 1: Let's listen. I haven't heard this one, but now that 1878 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:34,880 Speaker 1: I know more about that play, I'm looking forward to 1879 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:36,240 Speaker 1: how Money called. 1880 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,640 Speaker 27: It, Chargers three to five on third down. This is 1881 01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:43,480 Speaker 27: the eleventh play of the drive. Dobbins in the backfield, 1882 01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:48,240 Speaker 27: Disley inhearsed to the right, qu to the left, Herbert 1883 01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:54,280 Speaker 27: play action to throw end zone wide open touchdown, Chargers. 1884 01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:58,920 Speaker 27: How about a two touchdown game for Quinton Shohnston as 1885 01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:00,439 Speaker 27: it's twelve zero bolts. 1886 01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,320 Speaker 1: I just love that man's voice. But before we say 1887 01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,840 Speaker 1: goodbye to this cursed game, and yeah, the the Boo 1888 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,000 Speaker 1: Birds were out pretty hardcore, not a surprise. It's gonna 1889 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,840 Speaker 1: be a situation where fans just stopped showing up at 1890 01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,800 Speaker 1: Panthers game. That certainly started happening last year a little bit. 1891 01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,000 Speaker 1: And then that there were paper bags, which you never 1892 01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:21,400 Speaker 1: want to see. I do want to give a little 1893 01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:25,120 Speaker 1: love to Joey Bosa, who I think we maybe mentioned 1894 01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:26,920 Speaker 1: his stats on the show last week, but when I 1895 01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,599 Speaker 1: rewatched that game, was like, oh my god, Joey Bosa. 1896 01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:31,600 Speaker 1: When Joey Bosa is actually healthy, he's one of the 1897 01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:33,840 Speaker 1: best players in the NFL, and he had a big 1898 01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,000 Speaker 1: time sacking this game. After being questionable on the injury report, 1899 01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,719 Speaker 1: he ends up playing and this will not be Matt 1900 01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,960 Speaker 1: money Smith, one of our listeners looking out for us, said, 1901 01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,480 Speaker 1: you gotta check out the Chargers radio network, the Spanish 1902 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,640 Speaker 1: call with Adrian Garcia Marquez and Francisco Pinto. So I 1903 01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:51,960 Speaker 1: can't wait for this here. 1904 01:30:52,800 --> 01:31:06,000 Speaker 26: Marchand Richards, Bradulos Pan, don't mind snap see comber Bosa, 1905 01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:10,679 Speaker 26: says Skapa Eltu Morgan Fox. 1906 01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:15,080 Speaker 3: I want to eat is one thing that I picked up. 1907 01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:19,519 Speaker 1: I love that I know my h my high school Spanish. Uh. Yeah, 1908 01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:21,479 Speaker 1: we should have Randy come in and tell us everything. 1909 01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,479 Speaker 1: I guess next time. That's awesome. I love that Joey 1910 01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,639 Speaker 1: Bosa has his own sack call song, so maybe we'll 1911 01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:29,120 Speaker 1: it's a song. Yeah, bring that back. 1912 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:30,599 Speaker 3: It's gonna get stuck in my head. 1913 01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,679 Speaker 1: One last quick thing about the Chargers. Justin Herbert told 1914 01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,680 Speaker 1: reporters after the game he got rolled up after a 1915 01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:38,880 Speaker 1: fumbling in the second half. He went for X rays. 1916 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:40,240 Speaker 1: That's a little concerning. 1917 01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:40,840 Speaker 5: Uh. 1918 01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:44,720 Speaker 1: ESPN dot Com reported he was limping, and Herbert said 1919 01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,639 Speaker 1: he'll know more in the coming day. So just something 1920 01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:48,559 Speaker 1: to watch there for the Chargers. They got a big 1921 01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,840 Speaker 1: game against the Chiefs, a battle of undefeated teams in 1922 01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,640 Speaker 1: the AFC West Chargers at two and oh, all right, 1923 01:31:55,720 --> 01:32:00,760 Speaker 1: let's take one final break. We'll wrap up the last 1924 01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:16,880 Speaker 1: three games that includes Sunday Nay football back on NFL Daily. 1925 01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:21,760 Speaker 1: This is the spot in the show you you don't 1926 01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:27,400 Speaker 1: necessarily want to be. I mean, I'm just saying if 1927 01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:30,360 Speaker 1: we're ranking them, and it doesn't mean the games weren't great. 1928 01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,320 Speaker 1: These are both one score games. I think we have 1929 01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,360 Speaker 1: a lot of takeaways. Heck, we could have a playoff 1930 01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,040 Speaker 1: team out of these two games. Okay, but if you're 1931 01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,920 Speaker 1: this deep into the show, it just means we didn't 1932 01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,360 Speaker 1: see those games quite as high. Maybe I'll maybe we'll 1933 01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:43,280 Speaker 1: just start mixing them up a little more, because you 1934 01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:46,759 Speaker 1: know what, the Steelers, frankly deserve a lot of respect 1935 01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:47,519 Speaker 1: after what they did. 1936 01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,120 Speaker 18: Nicks in the shotgun has McLoughlin, who is right now, 1937 01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,120 Speaker 18: He motions him to the left, brings him back to 1938 01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:53,760 Speaker 18: the right again. 1939 01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:56,679 Speaker 1: Knicks back looking looking. 1940 01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:57,479 Speaker 3: Over the middle of the field. 1941 01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:01,080 Speaker 23: That's intercepted, and there's Corey Trice in the back of 1942 01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:02,160 Speaker 23: the end zone with. 1943 01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,320 Speaker 1: His first career interception. 1944 01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:07,720 Speaker 10: Oh sweet, Marie, what a beautiful job of coming through 1945 01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,479 Speaker 10: it the moment you're most needed in a time of daed, 1946 01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:12,040 Speaker 10: Corey Trice dance tall. 1947 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,280 Speaker 1: I love that. Put that on the Cause of the 1948 01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:22,000 Speaker 1: Year nominees. There, Wdve rob King, Craig wolf Ley and yeah, 1949 01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,160 Speaker 1: that was the first of Bnix's interception and that was 1950 01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:28,519 Speaker 1: the closest they came to scoring a touchdown. The Steelers 1951 01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:34,479 Speaker 1: win thirteen to six. Bonnicks throws away that red zone chance. 1952 01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:37,960 Speaker 1: They get the ball back late, he throws a hail 1953 01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,800 Speaker 1: mary that had no chance for his second interception, and 1954 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,480 Speaker 1: the Steelers defense gets it done Patrick in a strikingly 1955 01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,320 Speaker 1: similar way to the way they got it done a 1956 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,880 Speaker 1: week ago. They did score a touchdown in this game, 1957 01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:53,080 Speaker 1: but they didn't score as many points thirteen. 1958 01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:56,800 Speaker 2: They made big plays, but that big play by Corey Trice, 1959 01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,760 Speaker 2: a real game no limits comes up and makes that play. 1960 01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:04,439 Speaker 2: But ultimately, the two plays before that, the Broncos equaled 1961 01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,679 Speaker 2: their entire offensive output of the game. Up to that point. 1962 01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:10,080 Speaker 2: It was third to quarter, eight minutes to go. They 1963 01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:13,840 Speaker 2: had seventy five total yards on the game. Then they 1964 01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,400 Speaker 2: had a deep post to Cortland Suddon and then a 1965 01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,960 Speaker 2: reverse pitch back to Bownicks, who had Josh Reynolds wide 1966 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:23,200 Speaker 2: open by the way before that interception. Josh Reynolds has 1967 01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:26,120 Speaker 2: to stop and come back catches the ball. That's how 1968 01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:29,200 Speaker 2: they got to that point. And then Corey Trice again 1969 01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,559 Speaker 2: real game, no limits, makes that interception, gets the Steelers 1970 01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:35,879 Speaker 2: the ball back. But it's another game where justin fields 1971 01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:40,559 Speaker 2: is if you clip off individual plays, it's like, wow, 1972 01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:43,800 Speaker 2: justin fields, you're thinking the Steelers might have scored forty 1973 01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:46,280 Speaker 2: in this game. He had a couple of throws that 1974 01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,880 Speaker 2: had to come back, a couple of throws that were 1975 01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:52,000 Speaker 2: PI one of the best throws that we're going to 1976 01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:55,360 Speaker 2: see all season to George Pickens, a seeing eyeball with 1977 01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,800 Speaker 2: Patrick Sartan all over him. That ball gets right to him. 1978 01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:01,479 Speaker 2: It comes back for holding as well. But that's kind 1979 01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:03,759 Speaker 2: of been the tail of this season for the Steelers. 1980 01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:05,960 Speaker 2: Were in spots they look really good. Then you look 1981 01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,880 Speaker 2: up with the scoreboard they got thirteen points. It's one 1982 01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,280 Speaker 2: of those things. But they're two and oh and Greg 1983 01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:15,040 Speaker 2: Rosenthal's picked to go to the playoffs, much beligned by 1984 01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:16,479 Speaker 2: by everybody on the planet. 1985 01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:17,600 Speaker 1: No I did not pick them. 1986 01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,640 Speaker 3: Oh you didn't either. Nobody disrespect them as well. 1987 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,280 Speaker 1: We all did. And I was so mad when I saw, 1988 01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, at NFL dot com, like thirty seven people 1989 01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:28,479 Speaker 1: make their predictions and not one of them had the 1990 01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,559 Speaker 1: play Steelers in the playoffs. And that was the moment 1991 01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:34,360 Speaker 1: where I thought, Oh, they're definitely going to the playoffs. 1992 01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,559 Speaker 1: And yeah, Jalen Warren's healthier for this game. He goes 1993 01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:38,960 Speaker 1: nine for forty two and also catches a couple. Naje 1994 01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:40,960 Speaker 1: Harris is running hard. I mean they only end up 1995 01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,840 Speaker 1: with like two hundred and fifty yards of offense. But 1996 01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:46,320 Speaker 1: you don't need it when you got TJ. Watt playing 1997 01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:48,960 Speaker 1: like this and that that throw you mentioned where Boo 1998 01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:51,479 Speaker 1: Nicks underthrows him. Now some people will say, oh, see 1999 01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:53,559 Speaker 1: he doesn't have that strong of an arm. He can't 2000 01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:55,560 Speaker 1: go deep. I think more about the people shook that 2001 01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:58,559 Speaker 1: told me, well, if you have great timing, you don't 2002 01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:00,639 Speaker 1: need the big arm, because really he was just late 2003 01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:03,200 Speaker 1: on that throw. If he threw it earlier, then maybe 2004 01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:04,719 Speaker 1: it would have made up for it. But the timing 2005 01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,280 Speaker 1: hasn't been there for Nicks. He's he's looked a little 2006 01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:08,920 Speaker 1: bit lost, and they don't have a running game. It's 2007 01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:10,559 Speaker 1: not a good sign that bo Nix was their leading 2008 01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:11,240 Speaker 1: rusher today. 2009 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,200 Speaker 6: No, that's a terrible sign, especially we have Javonti Williams 2010 01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:18,640 Speaker 6: not backfield. But it's more discouraging that all of his 2011 01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,839 Speaker 6: strength that we saw in the preseason against Vanilla defenses 2012 01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:23,920 Speaker 6: have not translated the regular season. It's disappointing, it is, 2013 01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:25,400 Speaker 6: really what it is, because he came out of the 2014 01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:28,160 Speaker 6: preseason looking pretty confident, like he won that job pretty easily, 2015 01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:30,280 Speaker 6: and through two games just has not handled the job 2016 01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,640 Speaker 6: very well. And that interception in the end zone is 2017 01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:36,240 Speaker 6: a prime example of it's It's a disheartening start for 2018 01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:38,639 Speaker 6: the Broncos, but you still want to trust that eventually 2019 01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,400 Speaker 6: they'll figure it out. But they have to string together 2020 01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:42,000 Speaker 6: more plays than they did today. They also have to 2021 01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,280 Speaker 6: be cleaner. Nine penalties accepted for one hundred and twenty 2022 01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:45,880 Speaker 6: four yards. The only reason that they didn't have the 2023 01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,000 Speaker 6: most penalties in the game is because the Steelers had. 2024 01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:53,200 Speaker 12: Ten for seventy eight forward to rewatching a forty five. 2025 01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,160 Speaker 6: Minute are on condensed, just because there's so many stoppage 2026 01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:56,880 Speaker 6: just for flags, all right, and I'm not looking forward 2027 01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,200 Speaker 6: to it either, But you're right, and that's the thing 2028 01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,240 Speaker 6: with the Steelers too. They're gonna win a lot of 2029 01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:03,720 Speaker 6: games ugly right now because their offense can't put the 2030 01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:05,960 Speaker 6: ball in the end zone safe for once. But Justin 2031 01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,559 Speaker 6: Fields did not hurt them again, just like last week. 2032 01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,640 Speaker 6: He did not commit backbreaking turnovers, he did throw a 2033 01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:13,559 Speaker 6: touchdown pass, he didn't have to run the ball nearly 2034 01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,400 Speaker 6: as much as he did last week, and yet they 2035 01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:16,760 Speaker 6: still found a way to win. So you know what 2036 01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:19,000 Speaker 6: Steeler fans, Look, I'm gonna speak to you directly real quick. 2037 01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:22,320 Speaker 6: If you can accept losing or winning thirteen to six 2038 01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:25,160 Speaker 6: or winning eighteen to ten, and it's never gonna be 2039 01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:28,040 Speaker 6: super pretty well. First off, that fits your city's mantra 2040 01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:30,280 Speaker 6: and personality better than you even realized that. I was 2041 01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,080 Speaker 6: just there a few weeks ago and I can confirm that. 2042 01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,400 Speaker 6: And secondly, you're gonna win a lot of football games 2043 01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:36,400 Speaker 6: this play. You should be happy about your defense. 2044 01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:36,840 Speaker 12: Okay. 2045 01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:37,360 Speaker 1: T J. 2046 01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:39,439 Speaker 12: Watson a monster, and he's not the only good player 2047 01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:40,600 Speaker 12: on that defense. 2048 01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:45,479 Speaker 3: Spicy, all of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is an ugly win. 2049 01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, no, I mean, but they do 2050 01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,160 Speaker 1: have a lot of short, aggressive men. 2051 01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:50,920 Speaker 3: I will say that. 2052 01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:54,680 Speaker 1: I mean a guy from Cleveland talks about, you know, 2053 01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:57,639 Speaker 1: the Steelers being ugly winning or basically say I see 2054 01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:00,479 Speaker 1: some spice here. Seven quarterback hits, by the way for 2055 01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers in this game, so they beat the hell 2056 01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:04,160 Speaker 1: out of Bonex. 2057 01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:07,360 Speaker 2: And it seems like the one thing that has been 2058 01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:09,960 Speaker 2: true for two weeks now with Arthur Smith is the 2059 01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:14,040 Speaker 2: designed Justin Field's run game leaves a lot to be desired. 2060 01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:16,439 Speaker 2: Justin Fields seems to be at his best running the 2061 01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:19,479 Speaker 2: football on broken plays, on scrambles as well. 2062 01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:24,160 Speaker 3: There was one very circuitous QB run towards. 2063 01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:25,280 Speaker 2: The end of this game where I'm sure on the 2064 01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:28,080 Speaker 2: whiteboard it looked great like the tackles running back and 2065 01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:31,200 Speaker 2: then coming back around for Justin Fields, but the Broncos 2066 01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:34,240 Speaker 2: were all over it. Just scrap that one. Just go 2067 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:38,240 Speaker 2: ahead and let Fields run the typical you know, read options. 2068 01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:41,439 Speaker 2: That feels like the move to me because the straight 2069 01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:43,639 Speaker 2: design runs aren't producing. 2070 01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:47,920 Speaker 1: They are a defensive team putting up crooked numbers, six 2071 01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:52,160 Speaker 1: passes defense, six tackles for lost, seven quarterback hits, so 2072 01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:54,679 Speaker 1: you don't need a lot of offense when that's happening. 2073 01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:58,000 Speaker 1: They're two to zero and the Broncos fans are just apoplexic. 2074 01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,920 Speaker 1: They were so over their skis a couple of weeks ago. 2075 01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,720 Speaker 1: Now they're miserable and they're mad at Sean Payton. The 2076 01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:06,200 Speaker 1: Steelers two and zero with only one touchdown on the season. 2077 01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,680 Speaker 1: The Commanders kind of know how that feels. They won 2078 01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:13,720 Speaker 1: a game somehow where they gave up three touchdowns, they 2079 01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:17,879 Speaker 1: didn't score any touchdowns, and yet they were the victors 2080 01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:18,840 Speaker 1: at home. 2081 01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:23,320 Speaker 29: Way asks as if he's ready, Tyler rrr is the snapper, 2082 01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:28,639 Speaker 29: way turns, gets the snap, it's down, kick on its way, 2083 01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:29,400 Speaker 29: it is up. 2084 01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:33,799 Speaker 1: And it is good. Washington wins twenty one eighty. 2085 01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:40,000 Speaker 29: Congratulations to Dan Quinn, Adam Peters, Josh Harris, Jaydon Daniels, 2086 01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:45,839 Speaker 29: everybody as this group together gets their first win in Washington. 2087 01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:51,200 Speaker 1: That is a big time win for the Commanders. Wbig 2088 01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:57,200 Speaker 1: Bran Weinstein on Austin Sabert's thirty yard game winning field goal, 2089 01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:02,960 Speaker 1: weird game shook. I felt like Jayden Daniels and the 2090 01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:07,720 Speaker 1: Commanders were in the red zone all game, but it 2091 01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:10,680 Speaker 1: was just they just ended up settling what was it, 2092 01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,160 Speaker 1: seven field goals? Is that how they won this game? 2093 01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:17,559 Speaker 1: That's a wild way to get to the out. 2094 01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,240 Speaker 3: There just got there kick seven. Yeah. 2095 01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:22,920 Speaker 6: Well, you know, if at first you don't succeed, try 2096 01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:24,799 Speaker 6: try again. And when I say that, I mean if 2097 01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:27,160 Speaker 6: the first kicker that you got from the Browns doesn't work, 2098 01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:29,840 Speaker 6: cut him and then sign another kicker who was drafted 2099 01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:32,080 Speaker 6: by the Browns in Austin Cyber He'll get you to victory. 2100 01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:33,639 Speaker 12: Because that's what they did in week two. I sent 2101 01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:37,080 Speaker 12: a text to my buddy diehard Commanders fan and I said, hey, 2102 01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,360 Speaker 12: I know it's not necessarily Cliff Kingsbury's fault, but can 2103 01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:42,559 Speaker 12: you guys like actually get Jayden Daniels to the end 2104 01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:44,880 Speaker 12: zone today because he's playing well enough to deserve to 2105 01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,719 Speaker 12: make at least one trip there, and yet they couldn't. 2106 01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,280 Speaker 12: But somehow they find a way to win. Credit to them. 2107 01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:53,200 Speaker 6: Look, guys, I talked about Kyler like this earlier. Love 2108 01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:55,320 Speaker 6: watching play quarterback, look forward toating him play every week. 2109 01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,240 Speaker 6: I look forward to watching Washington play because of the 2110 01:40:57,280 --> 01:41:00,160 Speaker 6: same reasons. Jayden Daniels is so fun to watch. But 2111 01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:03,000 Speaker 6: for the love of God, get in the end zone. 2112 01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:06,000 Speaker 1: Please please and help me get down on some of 2113 01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:11,440 Speaker 1: these runs. He is unlike Kyler Murray, who is godlike 2114 01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:15,160 Speaker 1: in avoiding hits maybe the greatest I've ever seen. Really, 2115 01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he is truly an incredible scrambler. Jayden Daniels 2116 01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:22,000 Speaker 1: is a great scrambler, a great runner, but not great 2117 01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:23,920 Speaker 1: at avoiding hits. And that's a little worries. And he 2118 01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:25,280 Speaker 1: missed the play in this game right. 2119 01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:28,560 Speaker 2: Typical Jaden Daniels, as you just mentioned. He's running to 2120 01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:30,479 Speaker 2: the right, trying to get a few extra yards. He 2121 01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:33,519 Speaker 2: has got a defender low, takes a shot, kind of 2122 01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:35,840 Speaker 2: goes down pretty hard with the defender at his ankles. 2123 01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:39,400 Speaker 2: I'm worried about his ankle at his knee misses some time. 2124 01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:40,920 Speaker 2: He is able to come back in the game. But 2125 01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,439 Speaker 2: it's just one of those things where the accumulation of 2126 01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:46,519 Speaker 2: shots that Daniels is taking and they're not even really 2127 01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:49,040 Speaker 2: taking shots down the field, which is one of his 2128 01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:53,400 Speaker 2: the best parts of his skill set is his accuracy downfield. 2129 01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:53,960 Speaker 3: Not a whole lot. 2130 01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,160 Speaker 2: He completes twenty three or twenty nine passes for two 2131 01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,719 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty six yards, But you're just wondering when's 2132 01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:00,240 Speaker 2: the big play gonna comes. 2133 01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:00,920 Speaker 3: Not you running the. 2134 01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:03,760 Speaker 1: Ball, that's Kingsbarry ball. Not the best sign like Noah 2135 01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,240 Speaker 1: Brown steps in off the waiver wire, and you know 2136 01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:09,880 Speaker 1: he's leading their wide receivers. Terry mclaurin's fantasy owners like 2137 01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:14,720 Speaker 1: myself are dying a slow death. I think he has 2138 01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:17,040 Speaker 1: less than forty yards on the season, and yet they 2139 01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:19,760 Speaker 1: get it done because their running backs have looked fantastic. 2140 01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,280 Speaker 1: I think shook through two weeks. Brian Robinson looks to 2141 01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:24,000 Speaker 1: me like a different player he did a week ago. 2142 01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:27,880 Speaker 1: They start the game Nick with a nine minute drive 2143 01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:30,439 Speaker 1: and that sort of set the tone of what kind 2144 01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:31,599 Speaker 1: of day it was going to be. I know they 2145 01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:33,160 Speaker 1: didn't get a touchdown, but they end up with four 2146 01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,200 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five yards. I mean their offense was 2147 01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:37,960 Speaker 1: ultimately pretty effective except for the red zone. 2148 01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:40,599 Speaker 12: Yeah, they were great between the twenties. I mean they're fantastic. 2149 01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:42,439 Speaker 6: They moved the ball well all day, and Brian Robinson 2150 01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:44,320 Speaker 6: looks like I don't know if he found another gear 2151 01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:46,400 Speaker 6: or something, but he's more explosive and running harder than 2152 01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,800 Speaker 6: he has in his career. That's why it was so frustrating, 2153 01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:50,599 Speaker 6: but at the same time, to see them piece together 2154 01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,320 Speaker 6: these drives was encouraging. You talked about receivers and Noah 2155 01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,400 Speaker 6: Brown being their best receiver today, the best catch was 2156 01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:57,240 Speaker 6: made by Zach Ertz, and it was because it was 2157 01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:00,280 Speaker 6: a wrestling match with Jason Pinnock, who Zach the ball, 2158 01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:01,920 Speaker 6: then Jason had the ball, then Zach had the ball. 2159 01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,320 Speaker 6: Like that was the extent of the downfield passing game 2160 01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:05,840 Speaker 6: for them. So there's a lot of room to grow. 2161 01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:07,760 Speaker 6: I don't know if they'll ever get there, but it's 2162 01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,160 Speaker 6: nice and you can bounce it out with this rushing attack, 2163 01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,880 Speaker 6: which you know you obviously have the Daniels rushing threat. 2164 01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:15,200 Speaker 6: I would like to see him avoid some hits. Eckler 2165 01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:16,880 Speaker 6: still looks good too. You know, he only had eight 2166 01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:18,640 Speaker 6: carries for thirty eight yards, but he'll pop one off 2167 01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,000 Speaker 6: here and there. They have a good balanced approach. It's 2168 01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:22,840 Speaker 6: just that we do have to push the ball down 2169 01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:25,240 Speaker 6: the field eventually, Washington, like we got to wake up 2170 01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:26,080 Speaker 6: from our slumber there. 2171 01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:27,040 Speaker 12: So maybe in due time. 2172 01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:30,080 Speaker 6: But again, they're still in such a better situation than 2173 01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:31,880 Speaker 6: they were a year ago, just because of the quarterback. 2174 01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:33,400 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say that the better 2175 01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:35,760 Speaker 1: situation than the Giants who are now zero and two, 2176 01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:39,000 Speaker 1: and yeah. Dabeles started its press commerence really talking about 2177 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:42,040 Speaker 1: how the offense improved and I get it, and they did. 2178 01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:45,120 Speaker 1: I get it, but they also scored eighteen points and 2179 01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:47,240 Speaker 1: they're playing a team that should have given up about 2180 01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:50,519 Speaker 1: a fifty burger last year in the Commanders, and yeah 2181 01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:52,479 Speaker 1: there were so you know, they ran the ball better. 2182 01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:55,400 Speaker 1: Singletary goes for ninety five yards. Daniel Jones is much 2183 01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:58,880 Speaker 1: more effective. Malik Neighbors gets eighteen targets. No one else 2184 01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:02,400 Speaker 1: on the team gets more than four. Unfortunately the target 2185 01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:04,960 Speaker 1: even though Neighbors goes ten for one to twenty seven 2186 01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:08,960 Speaker 1: and a touchdown that we're probably gonna remember best is 2187 01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:12,679 Speaker 1: a fourth down that Jones threw the ball to Neighbors 2188 01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:14,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the game with a chance to 2189 01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:18,880 Speaker 1: really ice the game and potentially kick their own game 2190 01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:21,559 Speaker 1: winning field goal or go for a game winning touchdown. Jones, 2191 01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:25,720 Speaker 1: out of a shotgun set, falls out, signals, takes the 2192 01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:30,600 Speaker 1: snap back to throw pumps under pressure, now fires one right, completes. 2193 01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,000 Speaker 3: It and oh it's dropped by Neighbors along the sideline. 2194 01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:35,960 Speaker 4: He would have had the first down and he dropped it, 2195 01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:39,479 Speaker 4: and he pounds the turf in frustration with two h 2196 01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:40,080 Speaker 4: four to go. 2197 01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:44,880 Speaker 1: Oh that is Bob Popa calling the completion before it happened. 2198 01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:48,080 Speaker 1: Because Neighbors had such great hands and had such a 2199 01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:49,960 Speaker 1: great games, you just assumed he was gonna make it. 2200 01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:51,880 Speaker 1: And yeah, that was just over two minutes left. In 2201 01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:55,040 Speaker 1: terms of game situation. Both teams still had three time out, 2202 01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,240 Speaker 1: so there was a lot left to go there, but 2203 01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:59,080 Speaker 1: it was tied. But the reason they went for it 2204 01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:01,439 Speaker 1: is because they didn't have a kicker all game, and 2205 01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,800 Speaker 1: to me, that was maybe the biggest factor in this 2206 01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:09,160 Speaker 1: entire game. They try an extra point to start the 2207 01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:13,080 Speaker 1: game with their punter, Blake Gillan, and he missed it, 2208 01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:15,960 Speaker 1: and so then they went for two later when they 2209 01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,599 Speaker 1: were up three, which is like the one spot where 2210 01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:20,479 Speaker 1: you really need an extra point, but they I guess 2211 01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:22,599 Speaker 1: we're afraid, all right, you missed it the first time, 2212 01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:25,760 Speaker 1: let's go for two. They didn't get the two, and 2213 01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:27,640 Speaker 1: then at that point and in the game where they 2214 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:29,800 Speaker 1: probably would have kicked a field goal to take a lead, 2215 01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:34,640 Speaker 1: they go for it, and yeah, like it's it's kind 2216 01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,080 Speaker 1: of weird when you have a guy who was on 2217 01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:38,720 Speaker 1: the injury report in Graham Gano and you don't have 2218 01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:42,799 Speaker 1: an extra kicker up That to me is an organizational failure. 2219 01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:45,240 Speaker 1: Like the GM and the coach kind of lost them 2220 01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:48,400 Speaker 1: this game by not having a kicker potentially available. 2221 01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:52,760 Speaker 6: So Jamie Gillen, formerly known as the Scottish Hammer, maybe 2222 01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:55,240 Speaker 6: still known as that by some people, another former Brown 2223 01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:57,360 Speaker 6: who makes an appearance in special teams in this game, 2224 01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:01,840 Speaker 6: last kicked field goals consistently at Arkansas Pine Bluff and 2225 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,479 Speaker 6: did not do very well in college. So yeah, you 2226 01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,240 Speaker 6: were in a bad spot going to this game if 2227 01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:08,320 Speaker 6: if kicker was going to be a concern, So a 2228 01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:10,679 Speaker 6: lack of preparation on their part. I mean, look, Daniel 2229 01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:12,920 Speaker 6: Jones did play better. He played better because he had 2230 01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:15,120 Speaker 6: a life raft named Malik Dabors who just caught everything 2231 01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,080 Speaker 6: for him except for the most important pass of the game, 2232 01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:19,800 Speaker 6: which was super unfortunate because Neighbors is a stud and 2233 01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:21,760 Speaker 6: he played his tail off in this game. He kept 2234 01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,560 Speaker 6: them afloat throughout this game in the passing game, and 2235 01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:27,000 Speaker 6: unfortunately that's just the way the cookie crumbled for them 2236 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:27,720 Speaker 6: and they're zero and two. 2237 01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:29,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was one of those games where I don't 2238 01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:31,559 Speaker 1: know if we learned a ton about either of these 2239 01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:33,920 Speaker 1: teams in terms of how they'll compete against others. But 2240 01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,479 Speaker 1: if you're a commander's banner. You're on that stuff like 2241 01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,719 Speaker 1: big get a win, yeah, and you think. 2242 01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:42,880 Speaker 2: You think that they'll figure it out. The downside on 2243 01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:44,400 Speaker 2: the other side for the Giants is you get the 2244 01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:48,600 Speaker 2: nuclear Molik Neighbors game. But still there's there's not a 2245 01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:50,680 Speaker 2: lot to speak of. And as you mentioned, if the 2246 01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,599 Speaker 2: plan is Jamie Gillum coming in and then you immediately 2247 01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:57,000 Speaker 2: punt on that plan, I guess punt intended, then it's 2248 01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:01,080 Speaker 2: it's just like, so what what how are we approaching 2249 01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:03,639 Speaker 2: things between the coaching staff and the front office. 2250 01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:07,240 Speaker 1: If a guy has a groin injury for a kicker, like, yeah, 2251 01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:10,559 Speaker 1: I think that's that's probably a concern coming into the game, 2252 01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,400 Speaker 1: because they showed Dable watching his kicks very intently in 2253 01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:14,960 Speaker 1: the warm ups and stuff, so they knew it was 2254 01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:18,000 Speaker 1: an issue coming in. He Gano was actually active, he 2255 01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:20,880 Speaker 1: was the holder, so that it's just like, what what 2256 01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:23,680 Speaker 1: is happening? I've seen it's too many times where you 2257 01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:27,599 Speaker 1: see kickers where like before the game and then there's 2258 01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,400 Speaker 1: no one else. I don't know, maybe this should be 2259 01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:32,160 Speaker 1: something the teams should think about. You like literally lost 2260 01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:34,920 Speaker 1: a game. How valuable is that that? Because you didn't 2261 01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:38,400 Speaker 1: have a kicker available. We're always happy. Patrick Clayban is 2262 01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:41,960 Speaker 1: available with us each and every week. Now we're gonna 2263 01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:44,360 Speaker 1: throw it to Sunden and Football. Patrick will not be 2264 01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,600 Speaker 1: with us for the Sunday Night Football program, so we 2265 01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:51,759 Speaker 1: we appreciate you, Patrick, appreciate, and we send it to Houston. 2266 01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:54,920 Speaker 1: Let's go strata the. 2267 01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:58,639 Speaker 3: Gun on second to twenty four. Here's the snap, CJ 2268 01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:01,240 Speaker 3: looking CJ fire downfield, hitch me go. 2269 01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:06,719 Speaker 5: Ten five to the unsold touchdown kisten. 2270 01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:08,760 Speaker 3: And that's weight room right there. 2271 01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:14,639 Speaker 1: Baby Eco Collins has been hitting the weight room. Also 2272 01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:18,000 Speaker 1: hit the end zone. Touchdown for Collins goes eight for 2273 01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:24,759 Speaker 1: one P thirty five. Texans win nineteen to thirteen, wrapping 2274 01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:29,400 Speaker 1: up a fun Week two and almost misleading to have 2275 01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:33,880 Speaker 1: an offensive highlight Shookie because in the end, it was 2276 01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:37,040 Speaker 1: the defense that took over this game. In the second half, 2277 01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:40,639 Speaker 1: the Texans picked off Caleb Williams twice in a row, 2278 01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:43,360 Speaker 1: and then they hit him, and then they hit him 2279 01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:46,559 Speaker 1: some more, and then they sacked them all over the place. 2280 01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:49,680 Speaker 1: Eleven QB hits in this game. They pressured him on 2281 01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:53,920 Speaker 1: almost fifty percent of their dropbacks. Will Anderson and Daniel 2282 01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:57,479 Speaker 1: Hunter combined for seventeen pressures alone between the two of them. 2283 01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:01,400 Speaker 1: The Texans made that Bears off look bad and they 2284 01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:05,280 Speaker 1: get to win nineteen to thirteen. What stood out to you. 2285 01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:06,960 Speaker 27: Well? 2286 01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:10,719 Speaker 6: First off, coming out of the break, Matt Eberflus stated, 2287 01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:12,479 Speaker 6: We're gonna go down the field and score a touchdown, 2288 01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,640 Speaker 6: and they never came close to scoring a touchdown in 2289 01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:17,000 Speaker 6: the second half because of the Texans defense. 2290 01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:24,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Matt castleback in Lamberg in the playoffs energy, 2291 01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:27,040 Speaker 1: I love it. I Mean, no one's work confident than 2292 01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:29,160 Speaker 1: Eberflus with a good haircut. It's awesome. 2293 01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:32,040 Speaker 3: The question is who. 2294 01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:33,320 Speaker 12: Plays the role of Al Harris? There is that a 2295 01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:37,360 Speaker 12: Kabari Lassiter Derek Stingley. Does it matter? It didn't matter. 2296 01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:39,400 Speaker 12: I Mean my takeaway is the same takeaway that I 2297 01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:41,720 Speaker 12: pretty much anybody who was watching this game nationally had. 2298 01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,760 Speaker 12: Caleb Williams had no time to throw and was just 2299 01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:46,760 Speaker 12: getting bludgeoned, especially late in that game. 2300 01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:48,920 Speaker 6: I Mean, you can say what you want about the 2301 01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:51,320 Speaker 6: Bears offensive line. Obviously, I think they need work in 2302 01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:53,960 Speaker 6: protecting him. Maybe it's an upgrading talent, maybe it's a 2303 01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:57,160 Speaker 6: change in scheme. They certainly weren't doing their job, and 2304 01:49:57,600 --> 01:49:59,599 Speaker 6: it frazzled the young guy. I mean, it's a second 2305 01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:01,720 Speaker 6: NFL start. You could tell that when he had time 2306 01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:03,680 Speaker 6: he would make some good decisions. He also would miss 2307 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:05,960 Speaker 6: some throws. He doesn't ever rapport with his receivers that 2308 01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:08,759 Speaker 6: veteran quarterbacks have. He missed a number of back shoulder throws. 2309 01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:11,519 Speaker 6: DJ Moore looked visibly frustrated by the end of this 2310 01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:13,760 Speaker 6: game because the balls were just sailing over his head 2311 01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:17,000 Speaker 6: or were woefully short of its intended target. And what 2312 01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:19,479 Speaker 6: you got was a Bears team that mustered a whole 2313 01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:22,000 Speaker 6: three points in the second half and never really got 2314 01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:24,200 Speaker 6: close to threatening even in a one score game down 2315 01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:27,000 Speaker 6: late because of course they couldn't protect Kaylor Williams. 2316 01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:30,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he even that won the score that they 2317 01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:33,639 Speaker 1: did get to cut the lead to nineteen to ten. 2318 01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:36,120 Speaker 1: That's aided by penalties. There's a lot of penalties. This 2319 01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:39,440 Speaker 1: game went really late for a game that went in regulation, 2320 01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,840 Speaker 1: not like the most perfect advertisement for football. But it's 2321 01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:46,880 Speaker 1: still as exciting because they kept it close. And you 2322 01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:52,559 Speaker 1: mentioned those last couple drives. DJ Moore getting frustrated because 2323 01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:57,280 Speaker 1: Williams just misses him has a lot of room that 2324 01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:00,800 Speaker 1: drive ends because of that next and final drive. The 2325 01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:04,439 Speaker 1: last throw of the game is roma Dunze and Caleb 2326 01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:08,080 Speaker 1: Williams not really being on the same page. So Williams's 2327 01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:11,519 Speaker 1: accuracy has been a little iffy. That said, he comes 2328 01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:14,519 Speaker 1: out like the first three throws of the game were 2329 01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:18,799 Speaker 1: awesome and there were really nice moments. He gets forty 2330 01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:24,080 Speaker 1: four yards on the ground, DeAndre Swift goes fourteen for eighteen. 2331 01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:29,240 Speaker 1: Herbert you know, has the short touchdown but otherwise doesn't 2332 01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:34,120 Speaker 1: do anything. So I don't think you can overstate how 2333 01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:37,400 Speaker 1: much Darnell Wright struggled with Daniel Hunter in this game. 2334 01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:40,799 Speaker 1: And will Anderson was often beating kind of the protection 2335 01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:43,280 Speaker 1: scheme and like beating running backs and tight ends and 2336 01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:46,240 Speaker 1: getting hustle pressures and had some big time wins. But 2337 01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:51,320 Speaker 1: Hunter is just abusing Chicago's first round pick. So that 2338 01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:55,600 Speaker 1: was a big time acquisition for them. In the offseason, 2339 01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:59,280 Speaker 1: they were pretty confident publicly, maybe even you know privately, 2340 01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:01,240 Speaker 1: and definitely little publicly that he was a pretty big 2341 01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:04,639 Speaker 1: upgrade from Jonathan Grenard, and he showed. 2342 01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:05,960 Speaker 12: Had a good year last year by the way. 2343 01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:08,880 Speaker 1: Broh, Yeah, I mean right, Grenard was very good too. 2344 01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:12,320 Speaker 1: Neither of these teams could really run the ball. Cam 2345 01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:15,200 Speaker 1: Akers fumbles the ball on the goal line late or 2346 01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:18,679 Speaker 1: else we you know, we wouldn't have sweated out that ending. 2347 01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:20,640 Speaker 1: But I just look at this Texans team and I 2348 01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:25,240 Speaker 1: just think, man, there's so much talent everywhere. CJ. Stroud 2349 01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:29,760 Speaker 1: for the second straight week, I think, has showed improvement 2350 01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:34,000 Speaker 1: at making plays out of structure. Last year was all about, 2351 01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:35,400 Speaker 1: oh yeah, this is the guy, is the next Like 2352 01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:39,719 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, he's enough athleticism and every winning from the pocket, 2353 01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:41,880 Speaker 1: and he's done some of that through two weeks. But 2354 01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:44,160 Speaker 1: really all of his best plays over the last couple 2355 01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:46,800 Speaker 1: of weeks have kind of been plays that broke down, 2356 01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:49,519 Speaker 1: and he made a couple of them to Nico Collins 2357 01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:51,120 Speaker 1: in this game. I mean he had ay, he had 2358 01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:53,719 Speaker 1: some beautiful throws from the pocket too, including the Stefan 2359 01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:56,720 Speaker 1: Diggs good situational football to get three points at the 2360 01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:59,479 Speaker 1: end of the first half, where again Nico Collins makes 2361 01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:03,160 Speaker 1: a great catch. So overall, just smart football here that 2362 01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:06,479 Speaker 1: they probably shouldn't have had the sweat out quite as much. 2363 01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:09,160 Speaker 1: But again, if Acres doesn't fumble that ball, there were 2364 01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:10,439 Speaker 1: probably not talking about all that. 2365 01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:12,960 Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, on the Texans side. 2366 01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:15,600 Speaker 6: It is really beautiful to see what can become of 2367 01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:18,439 Speaker 6: a pairing of a young quarterback and a receiver. 2368 01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:20,760 Speaker 12: And that's that's Stroud and Collins. That's going back to 2369 01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:23,920 Speaker 12: last year, last preseason, you could tell even then they 2370 01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:24,599 Speaker 12: had a rapport. 2371 01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:27,080 Speaker 6: I picked him out back then, thinking that's his favorite target. 2372 01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:29,080 Speaker 6: That guy's gonna have a breakout year if CJ plays 2373 01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:31,360 Speaker 6: well because that's his favorite guy. And it carried over 2374 01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:33,160 Speaker 6: to the regular season. It carries over night eight for 2375 01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:35,360 Speaker 6: one thirty five in a touchdown for Nico Collins. He 2376 01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,679 Speaker 6: leads this receiving corep that, oh, by the way, has 2377 01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:40,639 Speaker 6: Stefon Diggs in it, but Collins is the star. There's 2378 01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:42,639 Speaker 6: one throw in particular. It's in the second half where 2379 01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:45,719 Speaker 6: Stroud rolls right and Collins kind of enters the scrambled 2380 01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:48,240 Speaker 6: drill and just finds open space and Stroud hits him 2381 01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:51,640 Speaker 6: perfectly to move the chains. That's that's the example of 2382 01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:54,320 Speaker 6: experience spent together. Even though if it's just a season, 2383 01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:56,720 Speaker 6: they understand each other, they're on the same page. That's 2384 01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:59,439 Speaker 6: what kayleb Williams Romo Dune's a DJ Moore and obviously 2385 01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:00,479 Speaker 6: Keenan Allen and to night. 2386 01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:02,360 Speaker 12: That's what they don't have yet. But I don't want 2387 01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:03,559 Speaker 12: to sound like a broken record. 2388 01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:06,040 Speaker 6: But again, like I said last week, with a different team, 2389 01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:08,160 Speaker 6: it starts in the trenches and the Bears, you just 2390 01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:09,679 Speaker 6: have to look at the rushing numbers to know everything 2391 01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:11,120 Speaker 6: you need to know about this offense right now. You 2392 01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:13,559 Speaker 6: can blame scheme, you can blame play calling and too 2393 01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:15,080 Speaker 6: many passes of the flats and too short of a 2394 01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:17,479 Speaker 6: passing offense, whatever you want. But if you can't run 2395 01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:20,559 Speaker 6: the football, you're instantly one dimensional. Even in a one 2396 01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:24,160 Speaker 6: score game, even before it gets late, you really can't 2397 01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:26,439 Speaker 6: do anything on the ground, and you're putting everything on 2398 01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:29,040 Speaker 6: the shoulders of a guy who's making his second NFL start, 2399 01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:32,120 Speaker 6: And that's just losing football. That's bad business. It's a 2400 01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:34,680 Speaker 6: losing formula. So they're going to have to figure out 2401 01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:36,440 Speaker 6: how to balance this offense if they really want to 2402 01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:39,240 Speaker 6: see Caleb take the steps forward that they expect from 2403 01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:40,280 Speaker 6: the first overall pick. 2404 01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:43,800 Speaker 1: Right. I mean, their offensive line really struggled against the blitz. 2405 01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:46,480 Speaker 1: So Demico Ryans is not a coach that likes to 2406 01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:49,120 Speaker 1: blitz that much. He's very good at a well time blitz, 2407 01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:51,960 Speaker 1: but they swed tonight. They couldn't protect the blitz. So 2408 01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:56,680 Speaker 1: that's offensive line number one, but that's also a young 2409 01:54:56,760 --> 01:55:00,280 Speaker 1: quarterback not knowing how to set the protections and coaching. 2410 01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:03,080 Speaker 1: They ended up blitzing on almost forty percent of their 2411 01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,400 Speaker 1: pass rushes and it was just free rushers at the 2412 01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:08,280 Speaker 1: end of the game. Teeing off. I mean, that was 2413 01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:12,280 Speaker 1: a welcome to the NFL type a knight for Caleb Williams. 2414 01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:16,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, the talent's just everywhere. Derek Stingley with an 2415 01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:19,480 Speaker 1: awesome interception that's going to help him get to I 2416 01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:20,960 Speaker 1: think he's going to be an All Pro this year. 2417 01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:22,960 Speaker 1: Nice to do it in primetime, He'll have other chances 2418 01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:26,800 Speaker 1: to do it. And then Kamari Lassiter, who had two 2419 01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:29,839 Speaker 1: interceptions in that second half. One was called back by penalty. 2420 01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,240 Speaker 1: And one thing I've noticed with Lassiter he has great hands, 2421 01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:34,800 Speaker 1: like he when he has a chance to make plays, 2422 01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:37,200 Speaker 1: he makes play. So he's given up a couple plays 2423 01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:41,040 Speaker 1: in this season. But again it's the Texans. It's playmakers 2424 01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:43,440 Speaker 1: all over the field. Jalen Petrie had a much better 2425 01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:46,600 Speaker 1: game tonight, and I thought the Bears defense was really 2426 01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:49,200 Speaker 1: really good in this game too. They don't have to 2427 01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:52,400 Speaker 1: worry about where they're at. And by any means, Kyler 2428 01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:55,440 Speaker 1: Gordon and Tyreek Stevenson and some of their guys up 2429 01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:57,520 Speaker 1: front like it is a really good defense and they 2430 01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:01,240 Speaker 1: challenge a good offense in CJ. Strapd. So the Bears 2431 01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:04,640 Speaker 1: go back to the drawing board one and one on 2432 01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:08,600 Speaker 1: the season, and the Texans are at two to zero, 2433 01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:12,760 Speaker 1: a top the AFC South. You know where I'm not 2434 01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:14,720 Speaker 1: atop right now, but I actually I do want to 2435 01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:17,200 Speaker 1: mention this one little stat that Josh Debo of that 2436 01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:20,040 Speaker 1: Associated Press pointed out. The Bears have averaged three point 2437 01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:25,640 Speaker 1: one yards per play on Sunday Night, and they averaged 2438 01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:29,440 Speaker 1: less in Week one. The only teams to do that 2439 01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:32,200 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl era averaged that few yards per 2440 01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:36,320 Speaker 1: play in the first two games of the season. In 2441 01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:39,720 Speaker 1: the twenty first century, there's actually two teams the Bears 2442 01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:43,000 Speaker 1: in the two thousand and six Raiders, who really old 2443 01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:45,800 Speaker 1: school Raiders fans will remember, were nicknamed the bed and 2444 01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:50,160 Speaker 1: breakfast offense. I think that was the JaMarcus Russell team 2445 01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:50,920 Speaker 1: I don't even like. 2446 01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:51,480 Speaker 3: So that's it. 2447 01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:54,600 Speaker 1: The two worst teams in the twentieth century. You have 2448 01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:57,560 Speaker 1: to go back to the ninety six Rams and then 2449 01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:00,160 Speaker 1: the seventies. For teams that have started that slow, has 2450 01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:00,920 Speaker 1: been pretty rough. 2451 01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:03,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's indicative of what 2452 01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:05,480 Speaker 6: their offense is going to be over the course now season. 2453 01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:06,720 Speaker 12: I do think that they'll get better. 2454 01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:09,160 Speaker 6: But one last point in the Texans real quick, because 2455 01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:10,800 Speaker 6: I know we talked about the playmakers and everything else, 2456 01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:12,879 Speaker 6: but I love the most about them their identity. 2457 01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:15,839 Speaker 12: These guys play with a massive chip on their shoulders. 2458 01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:18,000 Speaker 12: Not not worthy of the chip tracker, but just a 2459 01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:21,320 Speaker 12: massive attitude. I mean they're going out there and tackling 2460 01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:23,320 Speaker 12: guys and then they're hating a little bit extra after 2461 01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:23,640 Speaker 12: the play. 2462 01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:25,880 Speaker 6: You know, might spark a little freakiss here and there, 2463 01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:28,000 Speaker 6: but they play with an attitude. They don't just want 2464 01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:29,480 Speaker 6: to get stops. They want to get stops and let 2465 01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:30,800 Speaker 6: you know about it, and hey, this is a no 2466 01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:32,840 Speaker 6: flies on, you're not allowed over here. We're gonna keep 2467 01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:34,879 Speaker 6: coming all night. And it was it was really impressive 2468 01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:36,520 Speaker 6: to see, even against the Bears team that you know, 2469 01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:39,160 Speaker 6: struggles up front. I think that bodes well for them 2470 01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:40,720 Speaker 6: because this is their ear last year they came and 2471 01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:43,760 Speaker 6: won the AFC South Yeah, this year, they're they're aimed 2472 01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,000 Speaker 6: for more than the super They want to make a 2473 01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:46,360 Speaker 6: deep run. 2474 01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:47,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, and they're gonna they're gonna prove a point. 2475 01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're absolutely super well contenders. And yeah, the the 2476 01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:53,800 Speaker 1: Bed and Breakfast Rams just to I mean Raiders just 2477 01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:58,720 Speaker 1: to circle back was coached by Art Shell was the 2478 01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:01,800 Speaker 1: head coach. They only won two games that year, but 2479 01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:04,200 Speaker 1: the reason they were called that was because Tom Walsh 2480 01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:06,600 Speaker 1: was their offensive coordinator, a man who had been out 2481 01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:10,640 Speaker 1: of football for seven years before running while running a 2482 01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:14,040 Speaker 1: bed and breakfast ranch in Idaho before he came back 2483 01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:17,920 Speaker 1: to football to run the worst offense in the league. 2484 01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:20,920 Speaker 12: So how many how many of the breakfast dishes included 2485 01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:23,920 Speaker 12: potatoes at this bend at Idaho? 2486 01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:27,560 Speaker 1: Hey, there you go as we wrap up here, and yeah, 2487 01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:31,840 Speaker 1: a chunky Week two recap for you. I just I'm 2488 01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:34,280 Speaker 1: gonna end with some bad news if you happen to 2489 01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:38,600 Speaker 1: listen to the previews show. Patrick Claybond's Survivor pick in 2490 01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:45,320 Speaker 1: Week one didn't make it out a Week one that 2491 01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:51,560 Speaker 1: was pretty unfortunate, Bengals losing to the Patriots. My Week 2492 01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:55,760 Speaker 1: to Survivor pick the Ravens over the Raiders I guess 2493 01:58:55,960 --> 01:58:59,120 Speaker 1: is the segment. The segment's over. Both of us. We 2494 01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:03,120 Speaker 1: have not survived. It's over. Weiss came in in week 2495 01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:06,640 Speaker 1: two and picked the Texans. Maybe that counts that know, 2496 01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:09,240 Speaker 1: Tiebo on the Texans. I let him join week two. 2497 01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:12,400 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll start over. Who knows. We're doing more than 2498 01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:14,880 Speaker 1: surviving here though. In the Chris Westling, I'm more. 2499 01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:17,320 Speaker 12: Curious about these sounds. I heard a lightning bolt and 2500 01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:18,240 Speaker 12: somebody drowned. 2501 01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:20,840 Speaker 1: It was tough. It was tough out there on the water. 2502 01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:25,760 Speaker 1: Thank you, Nick Shook for everything tonight. Appreciate you man. 2503 01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:28,680 Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. I'd feel very grateful 2504 01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:31,680 Speaker 1: to be able to do this. This is a ton 2505 01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:35,000 Speaker 1: of fun in the studio. Eric Roberts and Randy Chavez 2506 01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:38,560 Speaker 1: just absolutely killing it behind the glass. We will be 2507 01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:42,600 Speaker 1: back me and you Nick at night, Monday night football 2508 01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:46,920 Speaker 1: Eagles and Falcons till then. So happy football is back.