WEBVTT - Dope Labs Archives: The Cookout – Lab 012

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<v Speaker 1>So we just wrapped up Pride Month and Black Music

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<v Speaker 1>Month and we were able to give you some very

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<v Speaker 1>special episodes that we loved. But this week we're taking

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<v Speaker 1>a break, but we're not gonna leave you empty eared.

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<v Speaker 1>We are bringing back one of our favorite labs from

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<v Speaker 1>semester one. This one is called the Cookout. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>me and TT love to eat, so we're bringing you

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<v Speaker 1>right along.

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<v Speaker 2>For augustatory experience with us.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we come back next week, we're talking all

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<v Speaker 3>about nails. You know something you said, you said, whenever

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<v Speaker 3>there's a reason to celebrate, you celebrate by eating food.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Yeah, I absolutely celebrate by eating food.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's not a celebration if I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>chewing on something. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we're inviting all of you to the Kids Cookout.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sure you've heard TT saying it over and over.

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<v Speaker 3>The way we always celebrate is by starting up the grill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's the only way to do it. If I

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<v Speaker 2>don't smell charcoal, it ain't a party. Did we even win?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, now you're losing. We gotta get that grill going.

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<v Speaker 2>We got it going.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta get the grill going. So welcome to our

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<v Speaker 3>virtual cookout. So that means right now, you should already

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<v Speaker 3>just magically have on a white linen suit.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's what all the old black people

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<v Speaker 1>wear to a cookout, right it is? And a fedora.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, put on your best put on your best linen,

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<v Speaker 3>wear your penty toe shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>Go grab a drink too, Like, if you don't drink alcohol,

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<v Speaker 1>go get you some juice, some water, some sparkling water.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're trying to be fun sie.

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<v Speaker 3>So welcome to the cookout. Let's give you a tour.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm TT and I'm Zakiah and from Spotify Studios.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Dope Laps.

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<v Speaker 1>So today we're talking about barbecue. Wait, what did you

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<v Speaker 1>say barbecue? I said, grilling.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we gotta get on the same page.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a common problem, I said, grilling.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it depends on what we're talking about though, Yeah

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<v Speaker 3>you no chicken, chicken?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's grilling. What you're putting it on the same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's clear to me that we need to do

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<v Speaker 3>a dephine into uh God of some some basic some

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<v Speaker 3>some keywords. I think one of the best questions that

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<v Speaker 3>you can hear in the summertime is what do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring into the What are you bring into the cookout?

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's a favorite, what's your go to?

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<v Speaker 3>I have to make? It depends on who's there, right,

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<v Speaker 3>It depends on who's there.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of y'all only getting hot dogs.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of y'all only y'all only getting hot dogs, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm just throw them on the grill.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not evenna spiral cut them.

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<v Speaker 3>I spiral cut the hot dogs. If I know you're coming,

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<v Speaker 3>t T I spiral cut the hot dogs for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hot dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, y'all, if you just eat, If you're just throwing

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<v Speaker 3>that hot dog right out of the package onto there,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not doing it right. You take the hot dog,

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<v Speaker 3>you put your knife at a forty five degree angle

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<v Speaker 3>and you just turn the hot dog around. The knife

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<v Speaker 3>is just cutting into the hot dog a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit the whole way down.

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<v Speaker 2>And not slicing through the hot dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, don't slice through it. You're just kind of gently

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<v Speaker 3>scoring it. When you put that hot dog on the grill. Honey,

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<v Speaker 3>those edges that get those those that surface area the

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<v Speaker 3>hot dog expands, okay, and then you get those crispy spots, right, there,

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<v Speaker 3>but then you get some of that inside. It gets

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of crispiness. And so you just expanded

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<v Speaker 3>the surface area of that hot dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for me, before learning about the spiral cut

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<v Speaker 1>hot dog, I'd always tell people I like my hot

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<v Speaker 1>dog burnt, so burn my hot dog on the grill.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I'm like, if it's spiral cut, it don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to be burnt for me to get all that

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<v Speaker 1>crispiness that I want. The flavor is just collecting those

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<v Speaker 1>little pockets. Oh honey, it is perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hungry. We should take a break. We're gonna take

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<v Speaker 2>a quick break and come back.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of my friends now don't like.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm up here and I'm grilling, then I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>put like a whole fish on the grill, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that I'm gonna put. I'll properly do a

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<v Speaker 3>whole chicken, or I'll cut it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>Zequila puts whole burbles on the birds, birds on the grill.

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<v Speaker 1>One time for Thanksgiving, she put a whole turkey on

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<v Speaker 1>the grill. I don't eat turkey, but I ate that

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<v Speaker 1>entire turkey. It felt like by myself, low and slow.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so good. It was smoked, it was crispy, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was so good. I've never had a better turkey in

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<v Speaker 2>my life, hands down.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we made pot pie with it after it,

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<v Speaker 3>and then she made that She.

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<v Speaker 1>Keeps saying we, because I'm standing there when she's doing

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<v Speaker 1>these things. She really the key is a good friend

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<v Speaker 1>because she always says we. She's like, remember that time

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<v Speaker 1>we made that whole fish. I ain't make nothing but kiya.

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<v Speaker 1>She made a pop peye with the with the leftover

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<v Speaker 1>turkey that she had put on the grill, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was he are good. I don't even I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know if this I can get through this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I think one of the most interesting things for me

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<v Speaker 3>when I first moved up here. I was living in

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<v Speaker 3>Pennsylvania at the time. I was just moving up there,

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<v Speaker 3>and they were like, welcome to Pennsylvania. I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>a barbecue.

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<v Speaker 2>You should come.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, oh, yes, they're having a barbecue. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>what can I bring? They said, bring whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 3>So I brought macaroni and cheese. I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna show out and that's right, okay. I brought macaroni

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<v Speaker 3>and cheese. And then I brought my dish in and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, wait a minute, I don't see a

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<v Speaker 3>pork shoulder. I don't see it. I don't see a

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<v Speaker 3>Boston but I don't see.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything of Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, I gotta get where's the where's the pork? I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what was Henna? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the kids from North Carolina for those of you

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know, and you know, North Carolina is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the meccas of barbecue. So there are some things

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<v Speaker 1>that she's got to see when she pulls up to

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<v Speaker 1>the cookout. Yeah, from Maryland, and so anytime somebody's cooking out,

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<v Speaker 1>you better have a bushel of crabs. I'm expecting it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I feel like that's part for the course

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<v Speaker 1>for most folks from Maryland. If it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a really good cookout, there's definitely gonna be crabs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that is something that I have started to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't put any crabs on the grill, but I

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<v Speaker 3>have been boiling the crabs. And y'all spray old bray

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<v Speaker 3>like for breeze.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I dab old baby behind my ears.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 3>We gotta get down to the terms right, Because there's

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<v Speaker 3>a cookout, there's a grill and a barbecue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, then you got a kickback where Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think wherever you go it's a buffet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes it is. Please more food.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend never met a piece of meat she didn't like.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it all tastes delicious and it's prepared correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>and the kid is always doing it just right. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need any side that's the kids. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need any size. I don't that's how good her

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<v Speaker 1>food is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need I don't need coal, slaugh, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need none of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, just put the chicken wings in, the hot

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<v Speaker 1>dogs and the ribs and everything just straight onto my plate.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I want.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, be careful t jump into flames.

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<v Speaker 2>If she could, can I grill myself? Shoot?

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<v Speaker 1>But the other thing that I really like that I

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<v Speaker 1>think that you should well maybe it's a secret recipe.

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe you should let people know about Wattley water.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, so at the cookout, not only are we

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<v Speaker 1>talking about food, you gotta have the right drink. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I say drink, y'all know what I mean mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Hydrating beverages with a little kick. That is what puts

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<v Speaker 1>the kick and kickback.

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<v Speaker 3>So for a while when we were in grad school,

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<v Speaker 3>every year we would make a different Wattlely water. So

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<v Speaker 3>it would be the twenty twelve Wattlely water or the

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<v Speaker 3>Fall twenty thirteen Wattlely water. I think one that was

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<v Speaker 3>a big hit was like water. It was a watermelon

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<v Speaker 3>based one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that was.

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<v Speaker 1>What I was introduced to as wattle water. That was

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<v Speaker 1>my first, very first Wattly water was the watermelon one.

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<v Speaker 3>And so okay, we're gonna share the recipe. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be on the on the show notes. So that's at

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<v Speaker 3>Dope lausepodcast dot com slash Lab zero one two.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get into the recitation, and first we

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<v Speaker 1>need to get to the bottom of all these words.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the difference between grilling a barbecue and a cookout.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've been talking about a cookout t T to you,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the cookout?

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<v Speaker 2>Cookout is.

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<v Speaker 1>Ribs, chicken burgers, hot dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>Corner on the cop.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, the cookout is the event.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh right, So it's not like, yeah, all the.

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<v Speaker 3>Food to me is the event. So the cookout is

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<v Speaker 3>like standing at the grill. It's people inside talking. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like the whole thing is the cookout, it's like the party.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, I'm just more concerned about the food. I

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<v Speaker 3>guess I'm not worried about you people there. I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>where is the food?

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<v Speaker 2>What time will the chicken be done? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't tell me to get there at three point thirty

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<v Speaker 1>when the chicken ain't going to be done till six,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm leaving and I will come back at six

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<v Speaker 1>when the chicken is done.

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<v Speaker 3>And don't volunteer to bring something essential to the cookout.

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<v Speaker 3>If you know you're gonna be late.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say you bring in plates and then you show

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<v Speaker 1>up at nine o'clock and so we're all eating out

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<v Speaker 1>of our palms.

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<v Speaker 3>You remember when our friend didn't bring those hamburger buns.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know how angry we were so angry, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you had one job.

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<v Speaker 3>She showed up at like nine o'clock. The party started

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<v Speaker 3>at three.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what are you thinking? We couldn't eat

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<v Speaker 2>our hamburg.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So to me, grilling is when you are cooking

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<v Speaker 3>over high heat. So that's when you are using your

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<v Speaker 3>charcoal or gas grill. And that's when you are like,

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<v Speaker 3>you put the meat down, it's like the flame, like

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<v Speaker 3>the coals are right there, the heat is on high,

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<v Speaker 3>and you get those nice uh grill mark grill marks. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's grilling to me. Whenever I say barbecue, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 3>about a brisket. I'm talking about the coals are all

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<v Speaker 3>stacked up on one side. I have soaked my wood chips.

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<v Speaker 3>My wood chips are just putting all that smoke and

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<v Speaker 3>aroma into the drum of my grill, and the meat

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<v Speaker 3>is just cooking over off to the side indirect heat,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and it's just just taking on all the

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<v Speaker 3>flavor just hours and hours. So I need to stop

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<v Speaker 3>saying grilling for everything. If I'm really gonna be a

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<v Speaker 3>cookout connoisseur, I need to be like, no, that's a grill.

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<v Speaker 2>This is barbecue. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's tricky because you're doing it all on

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<v Speaker 3>a grill. Usually, yeah, unless you're in a smoker, which

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<v Speaker 3>is a different thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're doing it, my friends, fun, you're doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're doing all of it on the grill, right, And

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<v Speaker 3>so I think that's what happens, and that's how I

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<v Speaker 3>got tricked that time because they were like, we're barbecuing

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, yes, they lived on a farm house.

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<v Speaker 1>They probably gonn put a whole pig on it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be delicious. And I was like, hamburgers, hot dog, cauliflower, no, make,

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<v Speaker 1>no qulifier steak at the cookout, I'm not eating nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>So whether you're talking about grilling or barbecuing, what we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about today is adding heat to meat and enjoying

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<v Speaker 3>a treat bars. But yeah, we're talking about basically when

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<v Speaker 3>you're cooking on the grill, why is it so good?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>And the science behind all of that, because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of science behind.

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<v Speaker 3>There is Listen, if you're a pitmaster, you are molecular gastronomers.

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<v Speaker 2>In my book, Okay, if you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can manage those coals and keep that meat just.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you deserve a Nobel Prize in chemistry.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to nominate you, Honestly, they deserve it.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're talking about all the things that make barbecue

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<v Speaker 3>taste good. We're we're gonna tell you a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>about the cooking process, what's happening there, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be talking about like what is actually flavor like how

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<v Speaker 3>your brain processes flavor and how it develops over time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and why some people have differences in what they think

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<v Speaker 3>tastes good. I'm a vinegar based barbecue person.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so listen, my friend, I like a vinegar based marinate.

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<v Speaker 2>M M. But I do like a tangy, spicy barbecue

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<v Speaker 2>sauce on top after like ketchup based? You think, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's ketchup based barbecue based? Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>You see we're gonna teach teach some words. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you trying to say? I like barbecue, Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So you like traditional like crafts barbecue sauce or a

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<v Speaker 3>sweet baby rais.

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<v Speaker 2>I like sweet baby rais.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we can get into that. So now we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>start talking about what you like in there. So is

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<v Speaker 3>it you know? Is it the salt?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it sweet?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it the oumami flavor?

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about all of my mommy gonna be there.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a lot to learn, but it's okay. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited about this episode because it's all my favorite topic.

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<v Speaker 3>Fit's going to be fun. Stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 1>In this labra'y taking y'all through everything from what is

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<v Speaker 1>taste to the science of a good barbecue. We already

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<v Speaker 1>know everyone loves a good cookout, so let's just dive

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<v Speaker 1>into the dissection.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>So the first thing we want to do is help

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<v Speaker 3>you understand tastes. So we gotta start with tastes because

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<v Speaker 3>we often are saying, oh, I like this, I like that,

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<v Speaker 3>my taste preference, my taste buzz are like this, my

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<v Speaker 3>palette is this.

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<v Speaker 2>But do y'all even know what taste is?

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<v Speaker 1>So folks have between five thousand and ten thousand taste buds,

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<v Speaker 1>and each taste bud that's on your tongue has about

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<v Speaker 1>fifty to one hundred specialized sensory cells.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and if you think about it, right, that is

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<v Speaker 3>a big range. You're talking about somebody having two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty thousand sensory cells.

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<v Speaker 2>Or a million a million.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody is out here having a flavor explosion in their

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<v Speaker 3>mouth and you over here like it's all right, that's

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<v Speaker 3>wild to me. So there's five major tastes. There's sweet, salty, sour, bitter,

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<v Speaker 3>and oomammy. What's your favorite taste?

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<v Speaker 2>Salty?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, I will take a potato chip over a slice

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<v Speaker 1>of cake most days, But would you take a potato

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<v Speaker 1>chip over a piece of bacon?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, So you like you like umammy? Probably I do,

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<v Speaker 2>like my mommy.

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<v Speaker 3>No is the savory taste. So it's sweet, salty, sour,

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<v Speaker 3>bitter and savory, which is called Japanese word for so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I prefer umami then.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what was hard for me to understand

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<v Speaker 3>what I didn't know before this episode TT was the

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<v Speaker 3>difference between sour and bitter. So sour is a measure

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<v Speaker 3>of acidity. So lemons and limes, those are acidic, and

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<v Speaker 3>so they're sour, but they're not necessarily bitter. You know

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<v Speaker 3>what I think is bitter the pith of like that

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<v Speaker 3>white stuff when you're eating like a citrus fruit.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, that's bitter.

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<v Speaker 3>But the sour is probably like the lemon juice itself,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's a cidic. We generally aren't seeking bitter tasting

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<v Speaker 3>or the bitter taste. But that's useful because a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of toxins taste bitter. Right, So this is like your

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<v Speaker 3>body is maneuvering over time. It's just like I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>even gonna mess with anything that might toxic.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it true?

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<v Speaker 1>That different parts of your tongue taste like bitter, sour,

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<v Speaker 1>and sweet. I think it was I saw something that

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<v Speaker 1>said that the back of your tongue tastes bitter stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>the sides of your tongue taste sour stuff, the tip

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<v Speaker 1>of your tongue tastes like salty and sweet stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And I always wondered about that chart. So if I

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<v Speaker 3>eat something sweet, but I toss it to the back

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<v Speaker 3>of my mouth, do I not taste the sweetness?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>How does it work?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's because taste and stuff is way more

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<v Speaker 1>complex than just your tongue.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 3>So what is taste when we're tasting something overall?

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<v Speaker 2>So taste and flavor.

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<v Speaker 1>People use those two words interchangeably, but it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing actually. So, taste is determined by the gustatory system, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of those parts of that system are located

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<v Speaker 1>inside of your mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>But flavor is what happens after that.

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<v Speaker 1>So, after you taste something and the signals are sent

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<v Speaker 1>up to your brain and you're also smelling it and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing it, flavor is the result of all of those

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<v Speaker 1>things interacting together. Yeah, So taste is like a sense

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<v Speaker 1>the flavor is a vibe. Yes, it's like are there

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<v Speaker 1>linen napkins here?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's the ambiance just right?

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<v Speaker 1>Are all the colors of the rainbow represented on my plate?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you eat those plates of meat?

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<v Speaker 2>No green? Is that hot dog? Crispy?

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<v Speaker 3>I think my flavor profile is heavy on seeing the

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I need some different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't care how good it is.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's brown and on the edges and Wilton, your

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<v Speaker 3>girl don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>It, then it automatically has a bad flavor for you.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't automatically have a bad flavor, but it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to start out at negative five.

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<v Speaker 2>On the scale one t. You gotta bounce back. You

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<v Speaker 2>better really have a good smell. Then.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the other thing that's really interesting is the texture,

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<v Speaker 1>Like how does something feel in your mouth? I know

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<v Speaker 1>some people that say, like, oh, I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>eat this, but I don't like the way it feels.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm exactly like that. Anything that's too soft, like no way,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I can't do like what is it called trayce

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<v Speaker 1>lea chase where it's like milk, I'm like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't do that. I can't really do oysters, even though

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<v Speaker 1>they taste. I think they taste good, but I can't

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<v Speaker 1>get past the texture of it, okay. Or even like

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody makes chicken and the skin is not crispy,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I can't eat it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, my friend wants that skin crisp. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why even when I order wings, I say, can

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<v Speaker 1>you make sure that it's well done, please, because if

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<v Speaker 1>that skin is even a little bit like gelatinous, I'm like, hmmm,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to peel all the skin off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>I think for me, there are things that the sensations

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like or like hot stuff I don't like. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like halloenos.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel I don't like the way that we were eating.

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<v Speaker 3>We were having swim were we and I was like

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<v Speaker 3>this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Spicy, and I was like, it's black pepper.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't hate too much spicy, y'all. I also don't

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<v Speaker 3>like every now and sometimes it bothers me. Sometimes it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't stuff that has like a fur on it, like

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<v Speaker 3>some peaches with the fuzz. Sometimes I take sometimes I

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<v Speaker 3>can't take it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's okay, but sometimes I'm like, hey, you should

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<v Speaker 1>have narrated this peech.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you should have narried it, she's a wax.

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<v Speaker 3>We've only really talked about what's happening in your mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>We haven't said what's happening in your brain for you

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<v Speaker 3>to be like, ding, this was good, I'll have another. So,

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<v Speaker 3>neurogastronomy is the field that studies how your brain creates

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<v Speaker 3>the perception of flavor. And it's wild, y'all. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot that goes into it. One of the sensory methods

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<v Speaker 3>that contributes to how you perceive flavor, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of the ones that contributes the most is

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<v Speaker 3>all faction and that's smell. Okay, So you have two

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<v Speaker 3>kind of ways that you detect an odor. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>orthonasal smell, which is odor that originates from outside the body, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's detecting odors from outside your body. And then

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<v Speaker 3>there's retro nasal smell, and that's the detection of older

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<v Speaker 3>molecules that happen while you're chewing. So as you're masticating, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's chewing.

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<v Speaker 1>Older molecules are coming out of that food and going

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<v Speaker 1>to the back of your mouth, and there are sensors

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<v Speaker 1>back there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the biggest culprits of like letting off retro

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<v Speaker 1>nasal odor.

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<v Speaker 2>To me is big red here. What you that chewing

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<v Speaker 2>gum the cinnamon one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, once you chew into it, it's like your saliva

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<v Speaker 1>must be activating something in red and it's like somebody

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<v Speaker 1>shove a cinnamon stick in your throat, like with sab

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<v Speaker 1>with sabi is one of them too. Yeah, because you

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<v Speaker 1>can't really smell.

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<v Speaker 3>You cannot smell, will not have a smell outside of

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<v Speaker 3>your mouth. But when you put in your mouth, that

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<v Speaker 3>thing light lights your whole life up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it'll blow hole through your skull.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy. So we hit orthon nasal smell outside the mouth,

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<v Speaker 3>retro nasal smell in the mouth. But then your odor

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<v Speaker 3>molecules are traveling from the back of your mouth up

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<v Speaker 3>to your nasal pharynx, right, So this is where they

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<v Speaker 3>reach receptors on the skin in the back top part

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<v Speaker 3>of the nose and throat. It'll be on the cheat

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<v Speaker 3>sheet for you guys. So these receptors are able to

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<v Speaker 3>detect the multi dimensional nature of odors. So it's not

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<v Speaker 3>flat like cinnamon. It's probably like ceylon cinnamon, spicy cinnamon.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's where I feel like those are

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<v Speaker 1>the bougie receptors. They're like, it's not just pepper, this

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<v Speaker 1>is white pepper, this is smoked Hungarian paprika. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not just that relation sea salt, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And so interestingly, it's almost like your brain is

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<v Speaker 3>like refining that, right. So once you get that signal,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like it's fine tuning and you get like a

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<v Speaker 3>it starts your your body is basically zeroing in increasing

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<v Speaker 3>the signal to noise racial. So it's like get rid

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<v Speaker 3>of all that background flavor. Let me give you this

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<v Speaker 3>intense You remember iceberg gum when it first came out

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<v Speaker 3>and they had those commercials like like like.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I feel like it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So then after all of that, after all that happens

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<v Speaker 1>inside of your mouth, and those receptors are and those

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<v Speaker 1>receptors are interacting with those older molecules, it starts to

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<v Speaker 1>send these signals to your brain. And in your brain,

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<v Speaker 1>your hypothalamus and your hippocampus. They determine what type of

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<v Speaker 1>emotion that you have, what emotional reaction that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to the food. I feel like the hypothalamus and the

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<v Speaker 1>hippocampus are involved in everything. They showed up in LAP

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<v Speaker 1>three in lot of me. They showed up in the

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<v Speaker 1>memory episode.

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<v Speaker 3>They gotta minding business, right, they like the Russians, And

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<v Speaker 3>so then this type of old faction stimuli. So stuff

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<v Speaker 3>you were just by chewing a little older release and

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<v Speaker 3>going to the back of the naso pharynx into the brain.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it's like, this is affecting decision making, this is

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<v Speaker 3>affecting emotion, all kinds of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just a slave to the food.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I am. Guess what, I'm the first one

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<v Speaker 1>to get angry. I need that food and I need

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<v Speaker 1>it now. Did y'all hear what our producer Jenny put

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the last episode. It was me hollering,

0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 1>where's the food? Yeah, y'all have to listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>little carrots that she puts at the end of the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, after they're crassing.

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<v Speaker 3>But that is true, you know. I mean, Snickers made

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<v Speaker 3>a whole campaign around it. Yeah, you're not yourself when

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 3>you're hungry, and it's so true. Now we know why, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so our.

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<v Speaker 2>Old friend the brains.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we've talked about quite a few things. We've

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<v Speaker 3>talked about how you chew your food and it releases

0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:54.639
<v Speaker 3>these older molecules and they travel up the naso pharynx

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<v Speaker 3>and you have the stimulations of the old factory cortex

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<v Speaker 3>where all those cells are, and it's affecting your emotion

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<v Speaker 3>and your mind, and you have this whole flavor experience.

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<v Speaker 3>But why is it that two people can't eat the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing and have totally different experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like that Maya green tea.

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<v Speaker 1>You made me know that it was a macho latte,

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<v Speaker 1>macho lte, and I was like, I'm not getting it,

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:23.119
<v Speaker 1>and you were like, this is delicious. Yes, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like every kid drinking it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know I had the best case of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so excited to share. I had got some

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<v Speaker 3>fresh figs at the farmer's market. It is a good example,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, teacher, I can't wait for you

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<v Speaker 3>to have some of these figs. These are it's like

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<v Speaker 3>that plums in the ice box poem. But I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>these figs are delicious. You're gonna love them.

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<v Speaker 2>M hm.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, I'm gonna eat a fig. I

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<v Speaker 1>never had a fig before, But you had had a

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<v Speaker 1>fag Newton I had. I've eaten a lot of fake

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<v Speaker 1>newtons in my life, so I was like I love

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<v Speaker 1>fig Newtons. Bring those figs on. I'm gonna eat the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. They're gonna be delicious. M And my friend

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 1>cuts one open. I'm like, this don't look like I

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:08.239
<v Speaker 1>thought it would, but I trust it because I love

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<v Speaker 1>fake Newton's.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been into that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is not fag Newton. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not what is in fake Newtons.

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<v Speaker 2>It can't be. These don't taste the same, but fake

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<v Speaker 2>newton is delicious. This is gross if some.

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<v Speaker 3>Of it is probably texture, but I think some of

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<v Speaker 3>it is also like expectation, I really should have It's

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<v Speaker 3>my fault. I should have set you up differently, because

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<v Speaker 3>basically I was like, you you're like a fig because

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<v Speaker 3>you like fake Newtons.

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<v Speaker 2>You were like, yeah, I do like fake newtons. But

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<v Speaker 2>what I basically said.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like, you'll like a strawberry because you eat strawberry

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<v Speaker 3>pop tarts, and that's not the same. It's like, you'll

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<v Speaker 3>like raw what is that cocow nibs or cocoa. What

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 3>are those things called cow cocaw. That's like, you're like

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<v Speaker 3>raw cocal nibs.

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<v Speaker 2>Because like hershey bars.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I didn't really think that through.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of sugar they're adding.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's talk about these flavor preferences and how that

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<v Speaker 3>can play out at the cookout. Because something that's really

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<v Speaker 3>interesting to me is some of my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>She says some of her friends then looked up, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes me feel like she's talking about me. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>my friends only eat certain things. Some of my friends

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, don't put no onions on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>And some of my friends that's not just you, that's you.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a coincidence, coincidence. I believe in coincidences. Sometimes some

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 3>of my friends are you know, don't cook it too long,

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<v Speaker 3>it's too crispy. You know, It's just everybody has these preferences,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it's really interesting how all this stuff

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 3>plays out. One of my favorite places to see this

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 3>playing out is on black Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because they're like, okay, who made the potato salad?

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>They have thinking about and they're saying, what do you

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<v Speaker 3>put in your potato salad?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta be careful about both what's in it, and

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 3>you know me, I'm a stickler for food safety.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, hey, is mayonnaise in that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that refrigerat and that's been sitting out since this

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon and it is now dark. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>see the oil separate from the egg and your potato salad.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they're also saying, your elbows gotta look a

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<v Speaker 2>certain way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let me tell you, when I grill, I look

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<v Speaker 3>like my worst self. That's how the food tastes the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even put any lotion on my heels when

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 3>I grill. You can't, or the food won't taste right.

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 2>Food won't taste right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why when they say, man, you really put your

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>foot in this, they mean the ashy.

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 3>Foot, the crusty part of the food.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to know. No foot with a pedicure

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<v Speaker 2>making my food.

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:32.679
<v Speaker 3>No pedicure foot ever made a good brack of ribs.

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Never. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So now that we've dissected taste versus flavor and how

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<v Speaker 1>we process flavor in our brains, let's apply all that

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<v Speaker 1>to the cookout. We're gonna take you from start to finish,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first step is usually marinating or brining.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have to think of meat as all these

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 3>proteins that are packed together. And if you don't put

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<v Speaker 3>anything on your meat, and you just throw it on

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<v Speaker 3>the grill. The first thing you'll see is that meat

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<v Speaker 3>shriveling up.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happens with the marinad is that when that

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<v Speaker 1>salt it begins to dissolve in all the water that

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you have in your meat, because meat is seventy five

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 1>percent water. So then the salt begins to dissolve and

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 1>all those salt molecules start to travel through the meat.

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Because when you have something that's high concentration salt, so

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that's your marinade, it naturally wants to go from high

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:29.199
<v Speaker 1>concentration to low concentration, so that salt just starts to

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>force itself down into the meat. And that's the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why with a marinade, your entire meat gets flavored.

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<v Speaker 3>I am a fan of brining. I used to be

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<v Speaker 3>a marinading kind of girl, but now I am a

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<v Speaker 3>dry brine.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the difference between marinating and burning?

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<v Speaker 1>So marinating is when you have a like, you usually

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<v Speaker 1>create some kind of sauce almost like it's usually some

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>citrus and some savory and salt, and then you put

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the meat. You like are putting the meat into like

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<v Speaker 1>a liquid flavor bath is what I I would call it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the key here is a salt based marinad because

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>sometimes people make the mistake of making kind of acidic

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>marinaise because they're like, ooh, I mean U some limon juice.

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>It's going to really tenderize this stuff. But acidic marinades

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and things like with vinegar, lemon and wine, the acid

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 1>can only go so far down into the meat. So

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 1>if you have a really thick cut of meat, your

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>acidic marinate is not going to be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>down in there. It's not gonna be able to just

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<v Speaker 1>get down to the core like you like you can

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<v Speaker 1>with the salt. Yeah, So salt is a major key, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And so another thing that the salt does while it's

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 3>diffusing through your meat is that it also helps to

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 3>break down some of the protein that's in it, and

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 3>that creates a more tender and juicy product. And so

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 3>when I think about that salt, that's why one of

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 3>my favorite things to do is a dry brine. So

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 3>a liquid brine is basically a salty marinate, but a

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 3>dry brine is where you just take the salt and

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 3>you put it right on the meat like and so

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 3>it's so interesting. Sometimes I'll do this and I'll have

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 3>a piece of meat and it's uncovered and I put

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of salt on it, and you can just

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 3>see the water kind of bubbling up, like because I

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 3>think it's the salt going in because there's a higher

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 3>water concentration in the meat, so it's pulling the water

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 3>out and the salt is forcing itself in. But you

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 3>get to see some of the water on the surface

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 3>of the meat. And so I like to do a

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 3>dry brin. I do that for chicken, for turkey, Like

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 3>when I do something on the grill, like the turkey

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 3>we talked about, I usually do a dry brine and

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<v Speaker 3>so the skin will get so crispy because you've pulled

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 3>all that moisture out. When I want a crisp skin,

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 3>a dry brine is where it's at.

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<v Speaker 1>So after you've already marinated or brined your meat, depending

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>on your preference, then now it's time to start cooking.

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.959
<v Speaker 1>And me personally, I love a seared meat because I

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:46.479
<v Speaker 1>really love that crispy outside. Like we said, I like

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>a crispy hota. I like my chicken crispy. I like

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 1>my steak to have like a nice seared outside. And

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I always heard that with like a bigger cut of meat,

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>like a steak, that you see it to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>juices in. Yeah, that's kind of a misconception, right, because

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>when you sear something, what you're actually doing is removing

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>all the water from it, all the juices from it.

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>And so maybe a more appropriate thing to do is

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>to sear on one depending on how thick cut your

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>steak is.

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 3>I have a friend that makes these cowboy steaks, and

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 3>I swear they're like three or four inches a bit,

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 3>and you sear it on one side, see it on

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 3>the other, and then you have a little bit of

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:27.479
<v Speaker 3>indirect heat to kind of let it finish cooking so

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 3>that you're not just drying the meat out, right, because

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 3>that searing isn't waterproof, no, so searing it in doesn't

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 3>actually keep water in. The water is still going to

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 3>try and get out, but what you're doing by seering

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 3>is like forcing the water out faster fast.

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 3>And so a lot of times people think if I

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 3>cook everything really high, I'm going to get a really

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 3>good and crispy skin. And some of y'all are finding

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 3>you're putting your chicken on really high and it's crispy

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 3>on the outside and it's.

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Raw dog on the inside.

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:57.719
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and there's a raw on the inside. And so

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 3>I think you really got to look at when do

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 3>I want direct heat and when do I want indirect heat.

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>So that's when you have the low and slow technique. Right,

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>low and slow.

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Is really good for some of your tougher cuts of meat,

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 3>so like your shoulders, brisket, like big pieces of meat

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 3>like that. I like a low and slow and just

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 3>adding the coals. Like we had a big party in

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Durham and my whole family was there.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom was there, and my godmom, the whole family

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 2>wasn't there. I wasn't there. Yeah, you weren't there. I

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 2>hadn't met you yet. I'm sorry. That's no excuse, but

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 2>that's why continue.

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<v Speaker 3>My godmom cooked ribs and she cooked something else I

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 3>don't know, but it was overnight, just on the grill,

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 3>just low smoking it.

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 2>She was like, add a.

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Few more coals out there, add a little bit of chips,

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 3>and when I tell you that, meat was falling off

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 3>the bone.

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I like.

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to have some crispy bits on the edges

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 3>and to be tender and then all that fat just.

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>So you don't even necessarily have to see it to

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>get the crispy stuff right, not all the time. So

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<v Speaker 1>the meat is marinated or brined, it's cooked to perfection,

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<v Speaker 1>and now it's time for the very last step, the sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>You can travel all over the United States and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>has their own opinions on what the best type of

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<v Speaker 1>barbecue sauce is. We're just gonna tell you the different

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<v Speaker 1>types that there are, and then you should go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and try them, try them all and tell us

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<v Speaker 1>which ones you like best.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because personally.

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<v Speaker 1>I had not really had different types of barbecue sauce

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<v Speaker 1>until I moved to North Carolina, where when you go

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<v Speaker 1>to a barbecue spot, they offer you multiple types of barbecue.

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<v Speaker 2>Sauce on your table.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, okay, so this is your vinegar base, this

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>is your mustard base, and I'm like, I don't know

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>what you want to get. And when I first moved

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<v Speaker 1>to North Carolina, I was just dumping all of them

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>on there because I was just like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to do.

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to offend anyone. I'm nervous, and I

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 2>don't want anybody to be mad at me.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, there's so many different kinds and they all

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<v Speaker 1>like can I'm like, okay, I like this for chicken,

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I like this for brisket, I like this for this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of the have like different bases.

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<v Speaker 3>I have always really liked a vinegar base, right, So

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 3>this is this is like eastern North Carolina style barbecue

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 3>where you have grilled your meat and then you like

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<v Speaker 3>are pulled, like you pull the meat off the bone

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 3>and then you dump something that's like vinegar, like almost

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 3>like apple cider vinegar and hot spices and stuff. So

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 3>I like that tangy. I like a tangy taste and

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of heat, not too much because you

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 3>know I can't handle that, right, So a little a

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:31.399
<v Speaker 3>mild vinegar sauce. One of the mild vinegar sauces that

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<v Speaker 3>always takes me right back home is called Carolina Treat.

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 3>But I also am a fan of like what would

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:43.479
<v Speaker 3>we called Kansas City style barbecue. So this is where

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<v Speaker 3>barbecue where you have the meat and you rub it

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 3>with all these spices and you cook it. And then

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<v Speaker 3>after you have the meat with the spices cooked, you

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<v Speaker 3>add like a thick tomato sauce.

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.880
<v Speaker 1>So so it's a dry rub, then they cook it

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 1>and you cook it and there's a tomato based sauce

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 1>that goes with it.

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 3>I think k C Masterpiece that case is for Kansas City.

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh so KSE masterpiece is Kansas City like masterpiece style

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 3>barbecue sauce.

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I would have thought that Casey was just like keep cooking.

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 3>I think I really like that one of my favorite

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:19.240
<v Speaker 3>tomato based barbecue sauces.

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 2>And I think you like this one too, Sweet Baby Race, Yeah,

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 2>that is my go to.

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I put that on everything right next to my old

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.280
<v Speaker 1>bay Like it's so good.

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:33.479
<v Speaker 2>You can just put Sweet Baby Rais on a bun.

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I just put it on my finger and I'm like,

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 2>this is a great snack. And so there's that. But

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 2>then there's Texas style.

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:46.359
<v Speaker 3>There's also mustard style that I think is in North

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Carolina and South Carolina a little bit.

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of different styles.

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to leave anybody out, but those are

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<v Speaker 1>the two main things that I think are big. And

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I think your preference is just based off of those

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 1>things that we mentioned earlier on in the episode, where

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like if you grew up around people who

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>only had mustard based barbecue sauce, and your likely to

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>only like that.

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:08.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, especially if it's the only thing available, You're gonna

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 3>eat that or you're gonna be.

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Hungry, you know, for real, And so like, I don't

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.280
<v Speaker 1>really have a preference. I'm just like what tastes best

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>at that time and what's available and available I'm hungry.

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the really interesting thing. You know,

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>food is something that can both unite and separate us.

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I was at the grocery store recently and I saw

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>what those things called. It was like dry grasshoppers at

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the grocery store and I was like, ewh And then

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I said, people are probably wondering who is eating those

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 1>pickled doubled eggs. You know, is there something for every

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>culture that people were like, oh who eats that? And

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really it's really interesting because food really

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:54.359
<v Speaker 1>binds us. Like you think about a lot of major things,

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:57.240
<v Speaker 1>we celebrate, we talk, we do all kinds of stuff

0:36:57.320 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>and bond over food.

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Like every major there's usually food that's involved.

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 3>And it's really important to really kind of get out

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 3>there and try other foods.

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely because I have had grasshoppers, you have and they

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>taste like some flower seeds.

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 2>What so I really enjoyed them.

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not like I'm out here like, oh,

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>let me run to the store and get some grasshoppers

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>real quick. But I'm never afraid to try something and

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 1>not afraid to like it.

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 2>If it tastes good, give it as frobs.

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's a mental thing for me. You

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>know how I'm about exoskeleton. Yeah, she doesn't like any

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.800
<v Speaker 1>shiny backed beetle or anything with antenna.

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.919
<v Speaker 3>But I do have to say a lobster is looking

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 3>real close to a roach, she got a shiny back

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 3>of heart or right outside in an antenna, I'm gonna

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 3>have to reevaluate.

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, y'all.

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 3>All we're saying is don't be afraid to try something new.

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 3>And if you didn't learn anything today, I hope you

0:37:55.160 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 3>learned that your taste preferences they're just temporary. You can

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 3>change them. Get out there, try something new, eat a grasshopper.

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:07.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. If you feel like you're picky, that's something that

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 1>you're deciding. It's not something that your body is doing

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>for you.

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 2>You can you can change it.

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 3>Mind over matter. Just tell yourself I'm not picky. I'm

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna try something new and as long as you're not

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 3>allergic to it, I think it's a good look.

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, tell us what you guys are eating that's different,

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 2>tell us tell us what you're doing.

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 3>If you stepped outside your comfort zone and try something new,

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 3>we want to hear about it. So this episode was

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 3>so fun that we had to just keep going. We

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 3>told you all the elements for our cookout, but we

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 3>left out one thing.

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 2>And that's the cookout playlist.

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and Spotify is actually put together a cookout playlist

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>that you can go into the Spotify app and listen to.

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>It's got all the hits, from the old stuff to

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the new stuff.

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:01.760
<v Speaker 2>So go check that out.

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 3>And if you check out our show notes, you can

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<v Speaker 3>see some of our favorite and hottest barbecue takes. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm posting the Wattley water recipe. GT's gonna tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of my favorite barbecue places in DC.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you some I really like in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna give you links to our sauces. You name it,

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 3>we got it in the show notes, so you can

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 3>find those at Dope Labs podcast dot com, slash Lab

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<v Speaker 3>zero one two and that brings you to the next point.

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<v Speaker 2>getting a break.

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<v Speaker 3>Semester two will start September twelfth, don't be late.

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<v Speaker 3>All this talk about a little Mermaid and I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, yeah, I should get some lobster. I

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<v Speaker 3>was thinking about Sebastian.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Sebastian's a crab. I thought he was a lobster. No,

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 2>he's a crab.

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<v Speaker 3>All this time in my head, when I recreated him,

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<v Speaker 3>he was a lobster.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Sebastian's a crab. That's wild.