1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Snake's Territory host Jesse Friedman is here. Great shirt and 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: great episode breaking. Last night the Josh Naylor News, they 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: did a little breakdown on the return for the Diamondbacks. Jesse, 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: good to see. We're gonna get to that. I want 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: to start with Gino Suarez. I mean, this is by 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: far the best available bat at the trade deadline. The 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: Yankees just took their name off the list. So what 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: do you think about Gino Suarez and what he could 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: bring to the table for some of the other teams 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: looking for third base help, potentially Chicago, potentially Detroit, potentially 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: the Mariners. Still, what do you think about where he 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: could go? And what have you seen from him offense 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: and defense this year that stands out. 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: I mean the offense is pretty easy to talk about, right, 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: I mean, the man just hits home runs in bunches. 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: It's been unbelievable to watch it recently. He's up to 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: thirty six home runs now for the season, and he's 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: on pace for something like fifty I believe, which would 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: tie a Diamondbacks franchise record if he actually stuck around 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: and did that. So yeah, I mean I think we 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: all know Scott the teams love power this time of year, 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: if you're a contender and trying to put yourself in 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: position to go on a deep playoff run. I think 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: it's well documented at this point that home runs are 25 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: a really big part of the equation, and if you 26 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: want home runs, there's really no one better on the 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: market than Gino Suarez, certainly not on the defensive side. 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: I do wonder if maybe that played a role in 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: the Yankees calculus in pivoting to Ryan McMahon. Gino Suarez 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: is by no means a terrible third basement at this 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: stage in his career, but I think it's safe to 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: say that he's slipped a little bit defensively. Just looking 33 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: at outs above average over on Baseball Savant, he was 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: at positive twelve a couple years ago with the Mariners, 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: he was at plus three last year with the Diamondbacks, 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: and this year he's at minus six up to this 37 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: point in the season. So you know, I wouldn't necessarily 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: call him a lot ability out there, but the Yankees 39 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: are definitely getting a better defender in Ryan McMahon at 40 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: third base. 41 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: If we're playing the prediction game, do you have any 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: thoughts on where you think he could end up sometimes 43 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: I also do this, and it's helpful. Where have teams 44 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: made deals in the past because these guys are friends 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: with some of their colleagues or some of their competitors 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: around the game, and that helps lead to trade some 47 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: of them just see eye to eye better. The Diamondbacks 48 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: and Mariners have done some dealing, so that makes sense. 49 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: The one way I'll go against the conversations or the 50 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: rumors about Gino Suarez also ending up in Seattle is 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: that the Mariners didn't love him. They traded him away, 52 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: so they are looking for an impact bat in that lineup. 53 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: They definitely helped themselves out with Naylor, but I do 54 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: feel like they called him out a little bit. Jerry 55 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: Depoto was very vocal after that season where the Mariners 56 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: were a strikeout mess, and then they were the next 57 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: year as well, so we're talking about after twenty three. 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: He's like, we need to get better. We cannot have 59 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: this much swing and miss in our offense. And in 60 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: that ballpark, I felt like he was taking a direct 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: shot at Gino Suarez. Not for the person he is. 62 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: He's a great dude, he's very lovable in the clubhouse, 63 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: but for the swing and miss that he has in 64 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: his game in the streakiness. So why would the Mariners 65 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: suddenly say, Okay, now we're going to pay top dollar 66 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: at the trade market to bring this back. 67 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 2: I'm with you, I think that's a pretty logical line 68 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: of reasoning there. I too would be surprised if the 69 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: Mariners were actually the team that made this move. I 70 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: know there were a lot of reports yesterday that, oh, 71 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: the Mariners are still in on Gino even though they 72 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: just acquired Josh Naylor. But it almost feels like those 73 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: reports always happened. You know, when a team trades for 74 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: the teammate of one of the players that they're rumored 75 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: to be interested in. You know, feels like there's always 76 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: rumors like, oh that you know they're still interested in 77 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: that other player too. But it feels like we don't 78 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: normally see that type of thing happen. And yeah, I 79 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: mean when the Diamondbacks fired Ao Henio Suarez a couple 80 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: of years ago, he was not a premium asset. I mean, 81 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if it would be totally fair to 82 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: call it a salary dump, but I don't think it 83 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: would be all that off base either. I mean, the 84 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: Diamondbacks only gave the Mariner Sebbi Zavala, who is a 85 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: backup catcher, and then Carlos Vargas, who was a right 86 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: handed reliever. Continues to be a factor for the Mariners. 87 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: He's in their major league bullpen right now. But by 88 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: no means was a top prospect at the time. His 89 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: command was way off at that point in his career. 90 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 2: More of a lottery ticket sort of sort of player 91 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 2: if anything. So yeah, I would be a little surprised 92 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: if it wound up being the Mariners. As far as 93 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: some other teams in the mix, it's it's really hard 94 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: to say. I mean, I know the Cincinnati Reds have 95 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: had reported interest, and we know that the Reds love 96 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: Gino Suarez. I think there's probably no secrets there. He 97 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: has a long history in that ballpark. We know the 98 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: fan base loves him, and he's pretty far removed from 99 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 2: his time in Cincinnati at this point. I could maybe 100 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: see that happening. And but I mean, there's there's a 101 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: lot of other teams in the mix here. The Diamondbacks 102 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: have made some trades with the Brewers in the past, 103 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: maybe maybe that becomes a thing. The Tigers are here 104 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: as well, the Cubs. It's it's it's really hard to say, 105 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: but it looks like the market for Gino is going 106 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: to be quite a bit more robust than the market 107 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: for Josh Naylor. 108 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: Even with the Yankees out of it, even with one team, 109 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 3: by the way twinning today. But we go love it 110 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: even with the Yankees out of it. Anytime we talk 111 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 3: about free agency and the big players are out on 112 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: a free agent, the value goes down. Have the have 113 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: the Diamondbacks in past history overvalue a player and then 114 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: kind of missed out because they didn't keep the market 115 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 3: open for everybody. 116 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: That's a good question. I mean, this is almost uncharted 117 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 2: territory for Diamondbacks general manager Mike Hazen. I mean, he's 118 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: been around this organization for for a long time. This 119 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: would be his ninth season as the general manager of 120 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: this team. But the Diamondbacks haven't sold a whole lot 121 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: under Mike Haysen. They've made a few trades here and there. 122 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: They traded Zach Granky to the Astros back in twenty nineteen. 123 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: They traded Starling Marte in twenty twenty when he was 124 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: playing really well at the time. But you know, Granky 125 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: had a really big contract. The Diamondbacks had to eat 126 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: a good portion of that in order to facilitate the 127 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: trade Starling Marte. You know, it was twenty twenty, so 128 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: you were only getting him for a month at that point. 129 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: I believe he had. 130 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,559 Speaker 1: A club option after that as well. 131 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: So, you know, the d Backs under Hazen have not 132 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: done particularly well in cell trades. You look back at 133 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: that granky deal and really they didn't wind up getting 134 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: much value in there at all. Josh Rojas was definitely 135 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: the most productive player, but then they of course traded 136 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: him to the Mariners as part of the Paul Seawall 137 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: trade a couple years ago. So the track record here 138 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: isn't great. I'm not sure we have an exact comparison between, 139 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: you know, what the Gino Suarez market looks like right 140 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 2: now and what a market has looked like for any 141 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: other Diamondbacks rentals here in recent seasons. But it'll be 142 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: interesting to see if Hazen can kind of change course 143 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: a little bit here and do pretty well for himself 144 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: in some of these deals. Jesse. 145 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: One of the things that Ken Rosenthal, who was just 146 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,559 Speaker 3: on the show said was he's hearing that it won't 147 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: be Gallon and Kelly, it would be one or the other. 148 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: Do you feel like that's a misstep for the Diamondbacks? 149 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: I mean citing the fact that, yes, they still do 150 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: have to get through the rest of their games with innings. 151 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: But do you feel like that's a misstep for a 152 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: team that, in my opinion, still can compete next year 153 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: and the next year after that with filling some holes. 154 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: But getting something for both of those guys, to me, 155 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 3: seems like the route they should be going. 156 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: I agree with you Kratz, Yeah, I think that if 157 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: you're going to sell a little, you might as well 158 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: sell a lot when it comes to your rental players. 159 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: I don't really understand the thinking of trying to hold 160 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: on to some of these guys. I mean, would the 161 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: Dbacks be a lot less watchable the rest of the 162 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 2: season without Zach Gallen and Merril Kelly. Yes, for sure. 163 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 2: Pitching depth has been a problem for them this year, 164 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: and I think you're probably looking at Anthony di scliffani 165 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: stepping in to a rotation spot. They would probably bring 166 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: Bryce Jarvis up from Triple A as well. His track 167 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: record in the majors as a starter certainly has not 168 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: been great, so it might be a little ugly, but 169 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: as you said, this is a team that still has 170 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: the ability to contend I think in twenty twenty six 171 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: and beyond, and so it feels like you'd want to 172 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: just get every possible asset out of what's really been 173 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: a mess of a season for them if you can. 174 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: The only caveat that I'll give here is that you 175 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: could give both of these guys qualifying offers. So there's 176 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: a world where you capitalize on the trade value with 177 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: one of them, and you move one guy, and then 178 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: in the off season you give the other guy a 179 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 2: qualifying offer. You know, likely they reject it, although I 180 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: guess with Meryl Kelly maybe there's a world where he 181 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: would accept it. But if the player rejects it and 182 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: they signed somewhere else for fifty million dollars or more, 183 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: certainly would expect Zach Gallen to hit that number at 184 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: least most likely, then you're getting a draft pick after 185 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: the first round. So I don't think it's like an 186 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: egregious decision necessarily. If they don't deal both of these guys, 187 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: you know, maybe the return just isn't quite what they 188 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: want it to be and they'd rather just have a 189 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: draft pick instead. But yeah, I have a feeling, given 190 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 2: the state of this market, that they could do pretty 191 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: well for both of these. 192 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: Guys, Jesse last one. For anyone else. We're missing in 193 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: terms of pieces that could be dealt big or small 194 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: by the Diamondbacks. I listened to the full episode last night. 195 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: Was great. I heard you guys lightly sprinkling a Lord 196 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: of Scuriel conversation, but I haven't seen anything from insiders, 197 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: so I think d Backs fans can take a big breath. 198 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure anyone else or do you think 199 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: that there's a chance he could be moved. 200 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: I think there's a chance Lordis could be moved at 201 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: a local reporter here, John Gambadoro, who has definitely has 202 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: some sourcing. He did say that some teams have asked 203 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 2: about him, but you know, he's not a premium ass set. 204 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: He's not Gino Suarez. He really has not had a 205 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 2: very good season. He's been basically a replacement level player, 206 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: and his contract situation is interesting. He could opt out 207 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: after this season, in which case is just a two 208 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: month rental, or he could opt in for next year 209 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: as well, and then whatever team acquired him would be 210 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: paying him. I think it's around thirteen fourteen million dollars 211 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, and he hasn't really played up 212 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: to that level this year. So the Diamondbacks might like 213 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: to move Lordis Guriel Junior just to get off of 214 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: the money for next year. I'm not sure if they're 215 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 2: going to find a taker on that. As far as 216 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: other players go, there are some some more expiring contracts here. 217 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: Randall Gritchik has a mutual option for next year, which 218 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: we don't really ever see those come to fruition on 219 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: both sides. So I think Gritschick is a team as 220 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: a player that teams could look at and then in 221 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: the bullpen, Theoretically they could get Shelby Miller and Jalen 222 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: Beeks back from injury here pretty soon, and both of 223 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: those guys also have their contracts up at the end 224 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: of the year. I don't think you're getting a ton 225 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: necessarily for either of them, but Shelby Miller has actually 226 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: had a really good season for the d Backs in 227 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: the bullpen, so you know, relievers certainly in high demand 228 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: this time of year. Wouldn't shock me if a team 229 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: made a run at him as well. 230 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: Jesse great stuff dude, really appreciate it. On the way 231 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: out here, everyone give love to Snake's Territory. It's awesome. 232 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: These guys are working their butts off. The info's great 233 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: and this is the time of year to listen to them, 234 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: even if you're not a fan of the Diamondbacks, because 235 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna listen to all of the players that are 236 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: getting dealt away here, including Josh Naylor who just got 237 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: dealt to the Mariners. Snake's Territory shop is also wide 238 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: open for you. There's the QR code and for many 239 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: in this company, it's their favorite logo. Just throwing it 240 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: out there. It's really good. Jesse, you're the man. Thank 241 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: you got you again after another deal? 242 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, sounds good, guys, Thanks for having me. 243 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: Joining us right now. You gotta be all over your 244 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: Pinstripe Territory and his channel dedicated to the Yankees covering 245 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: this Ryan McMahon news, but we get him for a 246 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: few minutes on FT. Derek, good to see you. Are 247 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: you happy? Am I getting a smile out of this deal? 248 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: What do you think? 249 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 3: You know? 250 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: First of all, shout out to Jesse Freeman a Snake's Territory, 251 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 4: Your previous guest fabulous chairs, stylist chairs. But this move 252 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 4: I don't think it catapults the Yankees to the top 253 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: of the standings, but I think it does move the 254 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: needle a little bit in the right direction. 255 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: Right. 256 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 4: He's better than both Oswald Parrazza and youor but Vivas offensively. 257 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: Right. 258 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 4: I know fans aren't going to be excited about the 259 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 4: two seventeen average, but he's got sixteen home runs, he's 260 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: approven major league hitter, and defensively he was very good. 261 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 4: The Yankees played the Rockies in Colorado and they played 262 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 4: Hi at Yankee Stadium, and both times he looked good defensively. 263 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 4: To me anyway, I don't get a chance to watch 264 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 4: him every day, but I'm excited to I know fans 265 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 4: are not super pumped about the offense, but defensively, a 266 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 4: big play from a slick defender can kind of be 267 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 4: like a red bull for a couple of innings. Every 268 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 4: time Bellinger makes a big play, seems like the Yankees 269 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 4: pick up a little bit of momentum. So maybe you're 270 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 4: adding a little bit of that factor. 271 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: Okay, are you upset about his home road splits As 272 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: a left handed hitter. 273 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 4: I actually haven't dug two deep into his splits because 274 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 4: the trade just happened and I had to hop on 275 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: the show real quick. But I feel like Colorado feels 276 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 4: like a place where you can, you know, if you 277 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: get the ball in the air, hit the ball out 278 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 4: of the ballpark, and Yankee Stadium is the same way. 279 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 4: So I'm not sure how much he's going to be 280 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: effective both. You know, both places are offensive spots right 281 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: for a left handed hitter, But I haven't had a 282 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 4: chance to dive into his numbers yet. 283 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, Scottie Kratz. 284 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: I just wanted to see the classic question and I 285 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: was bringing up here at Jim Bowden, who's our resident 286 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: gym on this show, really pointed to how the Yankees 287 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: were not that hot on Gino Suarez. They were super 288 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: focused on improving the defense, even if that means getting 289 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: a far less effective bat and powerful bat. Do you 290 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: agree with that decision? 291 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: I agree. 292 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 4: I mean, the problems that the Yankees have faced this 293 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 4: year have not been necessarily offensive, although they've had stretches 294 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 4: where the offense hasn't been great. The problems have been 295 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: the same thing that plagued them in the World Series, 296 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 4: which is fundamental baseball defense. Base running in Ryan McMahon, 297 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: they're getting an above average base runner. He's in the 298 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 4: seventy third percent tile and base running run value according 299 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 4: to Baseball Savant, and in fielding run value who's in 300 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 4: the eightieth percent tile. So this is a guy who 301 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 4: metrically fixes a couple of areas where they've shown that 302 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 4: they're deficient. Now Suarez, yeah, he's a big bat. He 303 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: might win you a playoff game with a big home run, 304 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 4: and obviously he would be further protection for Aaron Judge. 305 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 4: But he you know, he doesn't move the needle defensively. 306 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 4: He's not a good defender. So I think that the 307 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 4: Yankees are trying to address an area of weakness for 308 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 4: once rather than just, oh, let's go out and get 309 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 4: the guy who has the most home runs. And I 310 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 4: think that's a smart move. 311 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: Does this help Anthony Volpi play better defense at short 312 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 3: because my argument is when you have a little bit 313 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 3: of lackluster defense a third your shortstop has to cover, 314 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: whether it's subconscious or it's actually conscious, least you know 315 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: you're shading more towards third base. Is there a hope 316 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: that it improves his defense? 317 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 4: I mean, maybe Oswald Piazza wasn't necessarily known as being 318 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: a bad defender. He's a good defender. He's made some 319 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 4: tough plays, you know this year that in big spots 320 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 4: where they were errors or he's thrown the ball away 321 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: or whatever. But his problem is not range. I think 322 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: he's a superior defender to Anthony Volpi in fact, but 323 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 4: anything that you know, Ryan mcmahonn bring to the table 324 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: in terms of range, so that Volpi can maybe slide 325 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 4: to his left a little bit or you know where 326 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: he doesn't have to throw it as far. Maybe that 327 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: that helps, because the throwers have been the majority of 328 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 4: the issues for Volpi. 329 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: All right, where's the rest of the wish list? You're 330 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: not sitting on even though it is it is Christmas 331 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: in July today, July twenty fifth, you're not sitting on 332 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: my lap for a wish list. Okay, what is the 333 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: rest of the Yankees wish list? 334 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 4: You know, I've seen people talking about O'Neil Cruz lately, 335 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 4: but I don't think that's the move. I think you 336 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 4: got to focus on the pen. You know, any relievers 337 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: that you can get out there, and it's not necessarily 338 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 4: the big name guys. I was really into Felix Bautista, 339 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 4: but he's apparently had some injury problems. So maybe they'll 340 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: just pick up somebody like a Mason Miller and just 341 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 4: empty the farm. I don't know, but I think they 342 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 4: need a flame thrower in the bullpen. I think they 343 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: need somebody who can shut down some of these rallies 344 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: that they've been giving up. You know, if you get 345 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: more strikeouts, you don't have to rely on defense as much. 346 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 4: Jonathan Lowisega has not been good since coming back. Weaver's 347 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 4: been a little bit up and down. 348 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 3: You know. 349 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 4: Devin Williams Era is still over four, so how much 350 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 4: can you really trust him this year? You know, and 351 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 4: he was better for a little bit, but then he 352 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 4: had a rough patch last week. I would focus on 353 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 4: the bullpen. I know that they're interested in adding a 354 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 4: starting pitcher. Also, you know, we lost Clark Schmidt. We 355 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 4: obviously haven't had Garrett Cole all year. We are getting 356 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 4: Louise heel Back, and Cashman is known to view that 357 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 4: as a basically a trade deadline type of acquisition adding 358 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 4: him in. But I think they're going to focus on pitching. 359 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: Okay, Derek, good stuff, Thank you. For hopping on and 360 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: again a big reminder to everyone to check out Derek's channel, 361 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: especially right now, for much more on the Ryan McMahon acquisition. 362 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: He'll be on postgame after Yanks two and a lot 363 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: more conversation about this. Derek, thanks for the time, dude. 364 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: There's the pretty promo and the beautiful, beautiful graphics that 365 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: are on the show every day. Good stuff, Derek, appreciate you, man.