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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 1: we tackle to the NBA news, Lee Ah, you heard

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Speaker 1: from MDA Jam legend Brad Lowhouse the weekend. Please share

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Speaker 1: that story.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I did.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: You interviewed the author of the book NBA Jam last

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Speaker 3: week and then you asked me who my favorite team was,

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Speaker 3: and I said it was the Milwaukee Bucks combo of

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Speaker 3: Brad Lohas and Blue Edwards, and it wasn't the most

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Speaker 3: popular choice. But a listener out there, Graham Wood said

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Speaker 3: he sent me a message via Instagram and said, I

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Speaker 3: am teammates with Brad Lohause's son, Tanner Lowhouse, and had

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Speaker 3: him listen to the most recent Beach Step In podcast.

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Speaker 3: This was his reply. So this is Tanner Lowhouse, Brad's son.

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Speaker 3: He says, that's pretty sick, not gonna lie. Fun fact

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Speaker 3: of the day for you. My dad broke a chem

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Speaker 3: Elijah Wan's ribs when he dunked on him so hard

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Speaker 3: taking that dove isn't unheard of.

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Speaker 1: Incredible.

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Speaker 3: I tried to find that dunk. I couldn't find it, unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: but that would have made a great, little, great little

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Speaker 3: button for that story. But yeah, so great to know

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Speaker 3: that Tanner Lowhas is out there and knows that Brad

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Speaker 3: gets a little bit of grief I think for being

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Speaker 3: an NBA cham But listen, he was in the inaugural edition. Man,

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Speaker 3: that's like historic if you ask me.

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Speaker 1: He's in the NBA for Crydele Loud. My dad playing

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Speaker 1: the NBA.

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Speaker 3: He had a much longer career than I realized too

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Speaker 3: about eleven seasons. In the end, he bounced around a lot,

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Speaker 3: but you know, hey, eleven years in the NBA not bad.

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Speaker 1: So you couldn't find the clip though of Brad Lawhouse

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Speaker 1: Donking on a chimolage one. So maybe if any listener

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Speaker 1: out there knows anything more about this Donk or you

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Speaker 1: have somehow you have the footage, yeah, get it to it.

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Speaker 2: If there's another son of Bradlowhouse out there that has

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Speaker 2: a clip, let us know.

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Speaker 3: The funny thing is, I did you know a YouTube bradlaugh.

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Speaker 3: It's not a ton of clips out there.

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Speaker 1: But there's one that says.

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Speaker 3: That he blocks Michael Jordan. I'm like, oh, okay, well

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Speaker 3: I want to check this one out. And he does

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Speaker 3: block Michael Jordan, but it's a it's a pretty standard

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Speaker 3: just sort of big long guy blocks a guy who

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Speaker 3: goes into the paint. So it's not like Jordan goes

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Speaker 3: stops him. It's more just like Jordan's a little bit

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Speaker 1: There and blocks the shots. Again, I have to say,

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Speaker 1: has Dicky ever blocked Michael Jordan's shot even if it

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Speaker 1: wasn't a Duncan's no, no.

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Speaker 3: He has not.

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Speaker 1: Is Brad Lowhouse.

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Speaker 2: Lee's father.

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Speaker 1: Is Brad Lohaus. Dicky Wow, do a deep dive on

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Speaker 1: that something?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 1: Well, I love that little story to get started here.

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Speaker 1: On Monday, we got NBA news. We got actually quite

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Speaker 1: a bit to talk about here. The first thing, guys,

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Speaker 1: sounds like both these teams are just going to keep

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Speaker 1: their gyms closed here for any sort of like you know,

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Speaker 1: workouts until the team's traveled this week to Orlando. As

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Speaker 2: Mark mark Stein said, seven he snuck this Phoenix suns

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. Six or seven? You're right? Of these yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't know sometimes in some cases how many people tested

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Speaker 1: What was your reaction to all of these closures here

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, of course, when you hear

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Speaker 2: is going to explode. But I think the NBA factored

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Speaker 2: how the bubble is going to work. They knew they

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Speaker 2: were going to be positive tests there. I think what's

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Speaker 2: the Clippers, for instance, he's going to need some more

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Speaker 2: time and in these training camps that are already pretty

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Speaker 2: short three weeks. I think you're going to see games

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Speaker 2: I think what this means for sure is that the

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Speaker 2: basketball isn't going to be as good as if everybody

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Speaker 2: was down there July seventh, eighth, and ninth and working out.

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Speaker 2: There is definitely going to be a guy on this schedule, guy,

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Speaker 2: out together. So the teams with the most camaraderie I

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Speaker 2: think benefit that I've already had the camaraderie. But teams

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting this week because, as I said,

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Speaker 1: quarantine and then test negative twice before even being medically

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Speaker 1: So maybe it's not the players, But we could see

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Speaker 1: players not going this week, is what I'm getting at here,

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Speaker 1: that's what we could expect, right, right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's still you know, protocols that involve days worth

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Speaker 5: even leave for Orlando. But still, when you see six

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Speaker 5: their facilities, it's just alarming. It could still be fine.

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Speaker 5: These could still be the players or the personnel picking

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Speaker 5: up infections just in their community, just like everybody else

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Speaker 5: if anybody has picked up the virus from being in

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Speaker 4: A way bigger problem.

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Speaker 5: Right then You're already seeing the spread amongst teams, which

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Speaker 5: it'd be nice to hear a little bit more transparency

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Speaker 4: Have been caught. But I don't necessarily.

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Speaker 1: Know that we'll hear that, Yeah, what do you think?

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Speaker 3: Well, well, just I mean so trying to think about

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Speaker 3: many teams and players have been in contact with each

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Speaker 3: and shutting down facilities. I'm just worried that when you

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Speaker 3: Because the team, the fact that they're saying they're shutting

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Speaker 3: Do they then just again quarantine that one player, or

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Speaker 3: it's one thing when you're talking about the Phoenix Suns,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a whole different situation down there.

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Speaker 3: have a serious infection, because I think it's I think

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Speaker 3: it's almost inevitable really to be honest, at this point,

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Speaker 3: I just don't think you can keep it out. And

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Speaker 3: it's just going to be how the league handles that

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Speaker 1: Right, because look, we would all agree if this If

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Speaker 1: then I think the whole thing is completely shut down.

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Speaker 1: If this is happening in Orlando. Like Tass was saying, though,

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Speaker 1: I think the league wisely maybe expected this to be

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Speaker 1: you're rightly it's like we now just don't let anybody

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Speaker 1: not having it. The question is is that actually realistic

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Speaker 1: at all? I think that's what they're hoping for.

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Speaker 3: The amount of workers that we know who are going

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Speaker 3: to be coming and going. I just don't know how

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Speaker 3: you can virtually stop that. I know they're going to

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Speaker 1: Well, related news here charms from the FLA reporting over

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Speaker 2: Well, he wasn't going to be back to his old

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Speaker 2: He wasn't going to be back to his old self.

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Speaker 2: So we're not seeing a contender go to, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean when he came when he came back,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Hayward said it was an easy decision for him.

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Speaker 3: It feels like goodon. I mean, he's got four kids.

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Speaker 2: He looked like he was disappointed. He was definitely.

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Speaker 1: another girl. Yeah, I honestly don't know.

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Speaker 3: I sort of feel it probably would have been on

436
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Speaker 3: social media if they did the gender reveal again this time,

437
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Speaker 3: because he would have wanted to maybe, you know, like say, look,

438
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Speaker 3: I'm happy, I don't care what I have. I don't know,

439
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Speaker 3: I'm just it's gonna be sid Yeah.

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Speaker 1: One thing with all.

441
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Speaker 2: Of this, I left the bubble for another girl.

442
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Speaker 1: One thing I've been watching with all this, I just

443
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Speaker 1: find it a little bit fascinating is how the NBA

444
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: is branding this bubble ball experiment. I don't know if

445
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 1: you guys have been sort of watching it too. They

446
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,679
Speaker 1: really were going with straight up just NBA restart, but

447
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 1: then there was there was like a little bit of

448
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Speaker 1: a push for the comeback. I saw and now over

449
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 1: the weekend when they released the scrimmages, because we're gonna

450
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Speaker 1: have like these pregames before the actual seating games and

451
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Speaker 1: who you're going to be playing. They released that over

452
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Speaker 1: the weekend, they hashtagged it whole new game. So for

453
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Speaker 1: a while, Yeah, is that an Aladdin tie in? That's

454
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Speaker 1: that's a fascinating one. Whole New game just makes it

455
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Speaker 1: sound like we're playing different rules down here. But yeah,

456
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Speaker 1: they they're they're obviously trying to avoid bubble, you know,

457
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Speaker 1: they're they're not leaning into that. We've even heard Silver

458
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 1: a long time ago saying more of a campus experiment

459
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,719
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, environment, I should say. But anyway,

460
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Speaker 1: just something to watch, restart, comeback, whole new game. Which

461
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Speaker 1: what do you have a favorite task or is there

462
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Speaker 1: another one you'd like to see them try?

463
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Speaker 2: Yeah, everything just feels it doesn't feel right at this point.

464
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Speaker 2: I don't know. One hasn't really hit me quite yet.

465
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Speaker 2: I don't have a good one. I don't have a

466
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Speaker 2: good one quite yet. There are there. It just all

467
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Speaker 2: seems like, why are we branding.

468
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Speaker 4: It about the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, Well moving on here. Mark spears ESPN

470
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Speaker 1: over the weekend. His sources say the NBA and union

471
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Speaker 1: agree to a list of social messages that can be

472
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Speaker 1: put on jerseys. All right, because we had talked a

473
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Speaker 1: long time ago about the would the idea of maybe

474
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Speaker 1: the NBA would put stuff on the floor and stuff

475
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Speaker 1: like that, and they might still, but I guess you're

476
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Speaker 1: going to be able to put the players are disapproved

477
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Speaker 1: list of social message that the Players Association and the NBA,

478
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Speaker 1: the league itself agreed on I won't go through all them.

479
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 1: There's something like forty but Black Lives Matter, say their names, vote,

480
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Speaker 1: I can't breathe justice, peace quality, say her name, and

481
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: again it goes on and on and on. What I

482
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Speaker 1: thought was interesting from this, and then there's some interesting ones.

483
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Speaker 1: There's like group economics, like I think people are like, well,

484
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Speaker 1: how many of the players are going to do this?

485
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Speaker 1: If like a couple of people on your team do it,

486
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Speaker 1: then wouldn't you feel like everybody would do it? And

487
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Speaker 1: what would you pick? And all that, But sort of

488
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Speaker 1: buried within the news I thought was the messages will

489
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Speaker 1: be displayed above the number, So like where you would

490
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Speaker 1: normally have your name during the first four days of

491
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Speaker 1: the season restart, and then after the first four days

492
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Speaker 1: or nights, a player can simply go back to their

493
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Speaker 1: last name, but if they continue to want to show

494
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Speaker 1: the message, then their their name would go below the number.

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Speaker 1: This is all. That part's all I'm all very confusing, honestly, Like,

496
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Speaker 1: so you can do it, and then if you want

497
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Speaker 1: to continue doing it, then there's just a little rearranging.

498
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Speaker 1: We'll have to put your name on there.

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Speaker 2: Your name's going on there after four days, no matter what,

500
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Speaker 2: you want, to keep the message on there, keep it on.

501
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Speaker 1: It's not to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I just wonder if if that is for

503
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Speaker 3: maybe to help the broadcasters though as well with the names.

504
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, because you know, if you're not courtside

505
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Speaker 3: and you're trying to watch it, I mean, I'm sure

506
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: sometimes you have to just look at the numb you know,

507
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Speaker 3: like it's it's as a lot of players.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I guess I would just the counter to that

509
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: would be, then why wouldn't you just do that right

510
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: from the start? Right, sure, add your social social message

511
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Speaker 1: to your name, but maybe it's more powerful without it

512
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Speaker 1: at first, and that's why they're doing it for the

513
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Speaker 1: first four years. Yeah, I like it.

514
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Speaker 3: I like I like the NBA doing this and really

515
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Speaker 3: leaving it up to the players to decide what they want.

516
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Speaker 3: And uh and you know, if they don't want to

517
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Speaker 3: do it, oh.

518
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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on sort of leaving it up to

519
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Speaker 1: the players to decide what they want. What's not completely

520
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Speaker 1: all agreed.

521
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Speaker 5: Upon the list. You can't bry anything. There's nothing about

522
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Speaker 5: defunding the police. There's nothing police reform and though I mean,

523
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Speaker 5: defunding the police is a huge tenant of the Black

524
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Speaker 5: Lives Matter movement, So the fact that that's not even

525
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Speaker 5: on the list, to me, you're neutering the message right there.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, I mean okay that in that sense, in

527
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Speaker 3: that particular statement, yes, But I think overall, I think

528
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Speaker 3: they're trying to cover as many different sort of you know,

529
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Speaker 3: phrases and sayings that they think can have an impact.

530
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Speaker 3: And I think that's that's right. I think this is

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Speaker 3: a good first step from the NBA, and perhaps they

532
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Speaker 3: will consider adding more as well. I mean, you know,

533
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Speaker 3: defunding the police, like sure, like they if people can

534
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Speaker 3: add that, then why not. So again, I think the

535
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Speaker 3: NBA is making the right choices here though by saying listen,

536
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Speaker 3: we are serious about trying to bring more attention and

537
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Speaker 3: not just make this about the games and the championship

538
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: and things like that. We are trying to bring the

539
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Speaker 3: message out there and make it keep it on people's mind.

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00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 3: So you know, there's still some work to be done here,

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Speaker 3: but I think this is still a strong first step.

542
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Speaker 2: I think it's a partant that everything looks different and

543
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: when you tune in in August, and you say, a

544
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: casual fan says, oh, the NBA's playoffs have started, let

545
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: me see what's going on. Sure, then names might be different,

546
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Speaker 2: but I want to see the court have some messaging

547
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Speaker 2: as well. And I'm I'm unclear. You guys tell me

548
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: if the court is going to look any different, if there's.

549
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: Going to be I don't think we know yet.

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00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would assume that that's not going to

551
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 2: be the case. If if these message, if there's a

552
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Speaker 2: player's name or the player the slogan's going to be

553
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: on a player's jersey for four days or not or

554
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: more or who knows. It doesn't seem like it has

555
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: been documented. But the impact isn't going to come from

556
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 2: names on the back of a jersey. Again, I'd rather

557
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: see it on the floor. But what's really gonna, you know,

558
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: make an impact with police systems is what's going on

559
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. And Michelle Roberts declared that the players

560
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: Union is doing something that will hopefully do that. They're

561
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: investing in research groups on police behave behavior and their

562
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: abuse of power, and they're sharing it with grassroots organizations

563
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: in those communities and then rallying people to elect the

564
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: prosecutors in those communities that will do something about it.

565
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: So the MVPA trying to do something on their own

566
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Speaker 2: that's actually separate from the NBA. They're trying to get

567
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: the NBA to to jump in on this and do

568
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: it hand in hand. But that's the stuff that's actually

569
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 2: going to make a difference with with this movement, and

570
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: and and again, I think.

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Speaker 1: This is to be a spotlight though, to just obviously

572
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Speaker 1: put it in front of more people's eyes and in

573
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Speaker 1: their minds, more these messages.

574
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Speaker 2: But when you watch it, when you watch, like you

575
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Speaker 2: watch a game, let's say on Christmas Day, and you yeah,

576
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Speaker 2: the jerseys are sorted different, there's a name on the

577
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Speaker 2: back of the players, or let All Star game is

578
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 2: a better example, when they had like the uh the

579
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: first name on the front of a jersey or the

580
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: back of a jersey, I should say, like you need

581
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 2: a close up to see that. You don't just see

582
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: it on a wide angle and say, oh blm, you know,

583
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: like that's it's I don't think it's going to be

584
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 2: that apparent.

585
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: Well, if anything, my concern is what's going to happen

586
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: here is with the conversation at least on Twitter, and

587
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you shouldn't put too much onto Twitter,

588
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: but it feels like it's going to be like, well,

589
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: what player is choosing what message? And what does that mean?

590
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: And then oh, now they're getting rid of it? Oh

591
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: and what that player doesn't even have one? Like that's

592
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: then going to be totally losing. You know, you're not,

593
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: that's pointless if we get into these conversations, you know

594
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: what I mean, And like, I fear that's going to

595
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: happen tray where it's going to be like, oh, oh

596
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: interesting he went with that, but oh why is it

597
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: getting rid of it? And stuff like that.

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00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, people are gonna care too much about what the

599
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 5: players are choosing compared to actually what the things that

600
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 5: they're choosing mean, which is why what task is saying

601
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 5: that the NBAPA is actually doing something in their communities

602
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 5: to try and address some structural issues is more important

603
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: than putting a bunch of names on the back of

604
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Speaker 5: the jerseys. The best things that can happen for this

605
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 5: or that people get inspired and do a little history research.

606
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 5: You know, a bunch of pretty much everybody was laughing

607
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 5: and saying, I am a man who's going to choose

608
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 5: I am a man, read a history book, you know,

609
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 5: like that's a famous civil rights saying. I wouldn't be

610
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 5: surprised that the entire Memphis Grizzlies choose as I am

611
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 5: a man.

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00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think the entire league will have this?

613
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know about the entire league.

614
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 5: I think a high percentage will, maybe seventy five percent,

615
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Speaker 5: But I imagine there'll be some people who just choose

616
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Speaker 5: their name.

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00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I think overall you're going

618
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 3: to have, Like for the Lakers, I'd be shocked if

619
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Speaker 3: anyone in the Lakers didn't have some sort of slogan,

620
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: because you know, Lebron is going to and you know,

621
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 3: as the leader, it's going to look a little bit awkward.

622
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: I think are a bit weird if you know, player

623
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: eleven on the bench just has his name. So I

624
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: think I agree. I don't think there'll be maybe one

625
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: hundred percent, but I think there'll be a very very

626
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: high percentage of players who go that route, because right

627
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: now is the time where you really do want to

628
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 3: make your voice heard as best you can, and if

629
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Speaker 3: that's if that's the way you can do it. On

630
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: a basketball court, and you certainly don't want to turn

631
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: down that opportunity.

632
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: But the league is giving the players a huge out

633
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: by saying, after four days, you can take it off

634
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 2: if you want, so, I would guess that, you know,

635
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: what's the percentage of players going in on July thirty

636
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: to thirty first in August first their first games. It's

637
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 2: going to be really high. But when it comes to

638
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: August fifteenth, when the playoffs start, it's got to be

639
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: a heck of a lot lower, right.

640
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, but I don't know. My gut says, like,

641
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: why would you then remove it? I mean, it's like

642
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: you have it on there. It's obviously affecting how you

643
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: play by any means, unless you're super superstitious. Yeah, I

644
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: just don't know why you would then take it off tasks,

645
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: I guess, I hear you.

646
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I just this four game moniker is there,

647
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: this four game little window. Is it's there for a reason?

648
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: They guess. Yeah, we'll see next headline here, next piece

649
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Speaker 1: of news. Jackie McMullen ESPN sources. Her sources say the

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Speaker 1: NBA is discussing a second bubble for non playoff teams

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Speaker 1: in Chicago. Yes, there's a deep discussions on another bubble. Lee,

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Speaker 1: you're already laughing here. For the eight teams that were

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Speaker 1: not invited to play in Florida, so this would enable them,

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Speaker 1: in theory to participate in like a mini training camp

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Speaker 1: and maybe games against the other clubs with a target

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Speaker 1: deed of September. So this would be after the Orlando

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Speaker 1: bubble kicks off though. Pistons coach Dwayne Casey he took

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Speaker 1: an informal poll among the coaches who are not in

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Speaker 1: Orlando or headed to Orlando, and he said the majority

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Speaker 1: of them would prefer just to have their own mini

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Speaker 1: camps and not do this. Lee. Let's start with you,

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Speaker 1: because you're laughing at it. I'm not a fan of

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Speaker 1: a second bubble.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it makes any sense whatsoever because you're

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Speaker 3: not playing for anything. And let's look at a team

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Speaker 3: like the Golden State Warriors, for example, like Steve Kerr

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Speaker 3: basically mailed their season in, you know, a couple of

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Speaker 3: months ago. Now, who the Warrior's going to send. They're

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Speaker 3: obviously not going to send Clay and Steph and Draymond.

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Speaker 3: They're just going to send like a summer league team.

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Speaker 1: It'd be some yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I just don't see what the point of

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Speaker 3: them going out there to play. But I think they'd

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Speaker 3: be better off just staying in their own cities and

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Speaker 3: focusing on the players that they have there and trying

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Speaker 3: to work them out, because again, a lot of these

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Speaker 3: teams are probably already starting to think about what they're

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Speaker 3: going to do for their rosters next season and who

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Speaker 3: they're going to try to sign and who they're going

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Speaker 3: to release. So I don't really see what they gain

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Speaker 3: by going together and playing in a meaning of all

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Speaker 3: the meaningless tournaments, whatever this one is. If they have

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Speaker 3: some sort of prize or champion at the end, it

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Speaker 3: just doesn't make any sense. So I think right now

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Speaker 3: it's a lot more important for teams as best they

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Speaker 3: can to not be together, you know. I mean, this

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Speaker 3: is a risk in Orlando, and there's at least a

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Speaker 3: prize at stake. In Chicago, they're not playing for anything,

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Speaker 3: So it doesn't really make any sense to me.

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Speaker 5: Well, the reason they would do it, you touched on it.

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Speaker 5: The Warriors are an aberration here. They've got three guys

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Speaker 5: who are an All Star. They've got Wiggins who was

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Speaker 5: still a number one draft pick. I mean, he's probably

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Speaker 5: the guy who would be most watched for a development standpoint,

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Speaker 5: you know, playing with a bunch of the Warriors, just

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Speaker 5: to see how he had for them. But in general,

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Speaker 5: that's a completely different team. That's a playoff team who

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Speaker 5: happened to have a really off bade. The reason all

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Speaker 5: these other teams would want to play is because they

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Speaker 5: don't want nine months off. You say that they're going

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Speaker 5: into summer, into the offseason, they need to make decisions

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Speaker 5: about who stays around and who leaves. The league shut

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Speaker 5: down right after the trade deadline. There are new personnel

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Speaker 5: for these teams, so there's benefit to seeing how they

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Speaker 5: fit together. There's benefits to basketball players who want to

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Speaker 5: play basketball actually playing and seeing how they work together.

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Speaker 5: So I think that that's the reason why all these

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Speaker 5: teams in the loser bubble would want to play. They're

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Speaker 5: not playing for anything. It's going to be expensive. I

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Speaker 5: don't see how they're going to make money because who's

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Speaker 5: turning on the loser bubble when there's actual games that

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Speaker 5: matter happening. Not to mention the very last paragraph of this,

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Speaker 5: Jackie McMullen thing Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot just said that

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Speaker 5: if you're from one of fifteen states when you come

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Speaker 5: to Chicago, you have to quarantine for two weeks. That

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Speaker 5: affects the Warriors, that affects the Hornets, that affects the Hawks.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know how they would actually do it

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Speaker 5: if they want to get started around the same time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that they've picked Chicago. And we talked

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Speaker 2: to Lloyd Pierce on the podcast last hawkshead coach, and

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Speaker 2: he was in the know, and he said, well, apparently

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Speaker 2: it's actually going to be done in August, and we

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Speaker 2: know the hotel that we're going to be at already.

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Speaker 2: And I would just assume, why go to Chicago. Why

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Speaker 2: go to a big, a big location like that. Why

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Speaker 2: not just go in the middle of nowhere where there

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Speaker 2: are a few basketball courts like It doesn't have to

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Speaker 2: be this prestigious event. These players aren't going to go

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Speaker 2: have fun and hang out. It's just to get runs

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Speaker 2: in with their teammates and play a few games.

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Speaker 1: It's there.

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Speaker 2: I don't even think they should be televised. It's really

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Speaker 2: just to go play, and they're desperate to go play.

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Speaker 2: Coach Lloyd Pierce said, Hey, we're jack to go play.

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Speaker 2: Jack mcmillon's article said that an All star like Trey

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Speaker 2: Young would go play there. There are a lot of

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Speaker 2: guys who want to go get a run in and

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Speaker 2: not be you know, it's a question for seven months

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Speaker 2: without playing basketball at a competitive level. So it makes sense,

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Speaker 2: I think, just as far as getting their legs under

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Speaker 2: them and going to play, but you know, financially and

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Speaker 2: as far as like television and all that, I say,

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Speaker 2: forget it. I mean, go play on Zach Lavine's court

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Speaker 2: in Seattle where he grew up and had had a

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Speaker 2: court and had a you know, batting cages. Like I think,

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Speaker 2: to me, it's just find a place to go play

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Speaker 2: and put the players in some sort of sequestered bubble.

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Speaker 2: But it's yeah, it definitely opens up more possibilities for

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Speaker 2: the virus and and it's it's it's odd to be

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Speaker 2: thinking about it right now, but yeah, Chicago doesn't make

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Speaker 2: any sense to me. I would think that it would

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Speaker 2: be you know, in Brian Windhorstown in Nebraska, Omaha, which Omaha, Nebraska,

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Speaker 2: I should say. But that being said, breakouts over there.

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Speaker 2: A lot of food plants over there happening, a lot

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Speaker 2: of the chicken plants the Tyson Food plants. They're everywhere.

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Speaker 2: The breakouts are literally everywhere. But I'm not I'm I

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Speaker 2: joke about that, but I literally I think, I don't

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Speaker 2: know this a whole big production doesn't really make sense

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Speaker 2: to me.

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Speaker 1: Well, none of this is gonna there's gonna be no

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Speaker 1: second bubble until we see how the first bubble goes.

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Speaker 1: That's a given right. They're gonna see how it goes

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Speaker 1: in Orlando, and if it is safe enough, then maybe

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Speaker 1: they do re explore the idea of going picking somewhere

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Speaker 1: that's there's a court connected right to a hotel and

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Speaker 1: you can basically just quarantine within there. You never have

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Speaker 1: to leave, and you just play all these other teams

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Speaker 1: that aren't going to Orlando. But until we see what

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Speaker 1: the hell happens in Orlando, there's just no chance this

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Speaker 1: really gets off the ground.

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Speaker 2: And even then, that's why I was weirded out that

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Speaker 2: they seem to know, like Lloyd Pierce seemed to know

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Speaker 2: the hotel and where they were going.

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Speaker 1: Ready. I guess the logistics of it all. You got

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Speaker 1: to start planning it, but you got to start booking

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Speaker 1: the hotel and getting this court ready and having the people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I just don't think it. Of course, it happens

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Speaker 1: until they see Orlando goes. The other thing is like,

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Speaker 1: why couldn't, like, do they all have to go to

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Speaker 1: one spot to then play each other to get their

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Speaker 1: runs in? Couldn't you just like if you're the Hawks,

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Speaker 1: drive to Charlotte and play Charlotte, you know, or vice versa.

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Speaker 1: Like you just like these teams just in the proximity

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Speaker 1: to each other, and maybe it's a lot more safe

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Speaker 1: doing it that way where they could just play a

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Speaker 1: couple games against each other. The whole point is, like

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Speaker 1: you said, just to get a run in. And I

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Speaker 1: think there's some value to that because I think these

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Speaker 1: guys nearly having a whole damn you're off of playing

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Speaker 1: competitive basketball would be bad for them going into next season,

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Speaker 1: if there's a next season. But I don't think you

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Speaker 1: need to all go to one spot, is what I'm

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Speaker 1: getting at your.

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Speaker 4: Horn, Just the competition. Just take it as easily as

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Speaker 4: you can get it. Drive to Charlotte.

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Speaker 5: So what if you're playing against those Twins four times

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Speaker 5: four different NBA teams. You're playing against an NBA team

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Speaker 5: that's good enough. Or or the Warriors could set up

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Speaker 5: shop in Drake's place. You know, Steph and Drake are

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Speaker 5: very close. Yeah, every week we'll fly a new team

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Speaker 4: Drake the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's got a nice ring to it. Actually.

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Speaker 2: feel great. As he said, all those little knicks and

864
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: knacks of those injuries. Yeah, he's he feels one hundred percent.

865
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: That's yes. That Koopo went out just before the hiatus,

866
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: he had a knee injury. He now feels great. I

867
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: think that it's universal. Everybody is feeling phenomenal. If we're

868
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: going to evaluate it, if we're going to put this

869
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: on some sort of grid, are the Lakers higher after

870
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: a long rest? No, I think I think it's all.

871
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: It's all across the board. Everyone feels great, And I

872
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: think the benefit for the Lakers is they're great October

873
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: seventeenth or wherever the season started, and they were playing

874
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: good basketball in October, November, December, January, and February and March.

875
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: That's the benefit. Same with the Bucks. Those two teams

876
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: we should expect in the NBA Finals, because I think

877
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: the teams that are hurt from this are teams like

878
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: the Clippers where Paul George was in and out of

879
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: the lineup and you brought in a new player like

880
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: Reggie Jackson. I think there's camaraderie building that needed to

881
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: be done for those teams. But as far as like

882
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: injurigues Go, Yeah, they're feeling he's feeling great. Everybody is

883
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: feeling great because it's like they just had enough season.

884
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 2: This to me, the optimism feels like it's it's training

885
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: camp again and it's September October and everybody's you know,

886
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: game twenty pounds of muscle and feels right. And yeah

887
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: they should feel good. He should feel good, especially because

888
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: he's on a winning team. But I think everybody's sort

889
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: of in the same boat.

890
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what does this say about Avery Bradley? What

891
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: the hell? Anthony Davis? You like your chances more? You

892
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: lost the key guy, Lee, No, I'm reaching Yeah.

893
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit there. But I actually think for

894
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: your Raptors this has been great, really for them because

895
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: they've been clearly one of the most beat up teams

896
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 3: all season long. Now, so to get you know, three

897
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 3: or four months, everybody should really be ready to go.

898
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: Marcus Ol trimmed down as well Norm Powell, who had

899
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: had his best season, but he was in and out

900
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 3: of the lineup so much with just these little niggling injuries.

901
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: So hopefully he's back and the Raptors for the first

902
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 3: time perhaps since the start of the season. I can't

903
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 3: I can't quite remember how they started. Actually but they

904
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 3: could have the full fullest, healthiest squad they've had at all,

905
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 3: and I think that's great for them. And also the

906
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: fact that they got a break just because they went

907
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: to the playoffs in the finals last year. They do

908
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: get now a little extended breaks. So you know, I

909
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: think the Raptors are in a good spot right now

910
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 3: because if they come in healthy, I've said a few

911
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: times I think they're a dark horse to go back

912
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 3: to back and because they've been there, they've won, and

913
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: they really do believe in themselves and they're still a very,

914
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: very good team. So I think that could be one

915
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: of the teams of benefits most. But I agree with

916
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 3: Tasks that the Lakers their chances are good coming into

917
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: the season. The chances are good when we had the shutdown.

918
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 3: They're a good team. Avery Bradley's a good player. He's

919
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 3: been good for them, but they're not going to miss

920
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: him significantly much where it's like they can't win the

921
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: championship without him.

922
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 5: I don't think we know one hundred percent Dwaight Howard's

923
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 5: status for Orlando yet, so that would be a bigger

924
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 5: loss than Avery Bradley. But I think, you know, Anthony

925
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 5: Davis looks at Lebron and he said, that guy played

926
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 5: fifty five games in the twenty eighteen nineteen season, ken

927
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 5: back and looked like an MVP.

928
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 4: He's had another long rest.

929
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 5: Lebron is getting two long rests in the course of

930
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 5: you know, twenty four months. The guy's gonna come back insane.

931
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 5: And you know, I don't know, it's been shut down

932
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 5: for quite some time. Maybe maybe Lebron has opened his

933
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 5: home Jim Tanthony Davis and those two have been working

934
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 5: out together after some restrictions were lifted. I don't know

935
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 5: what's gonna happen, but you know, Lebron's gonna come back

936
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 5: looking good.

937
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 4: The guy's got the best.

938
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 5: Possible rehab home court you can have amongst NBA players.

939
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 4: They're gonna be fine.

940
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lakers one of the favorites, of course, to win

941
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: the title here if the season does officially restart.

942
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 5: All right.

943
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: Next one's a little interesting. The Athletic they they had

944
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: an anonymous NBA Coaches poll guys where they're asking a

945
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: bunch of coaches out there anonymously who are the league's

946
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: best defenders get their views on the best defensive guys

947
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: in the game. The coaches thirty three in total voted for.

948
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: They're all defensive first even they're all defensive second team.

949
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: The first team guys center was Rudy Gobert, forwards were

950
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: Giannis and Kawhi, guards were Marcus Smart and Ben Simmons.

951
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: Second team was bam Adebayo was the center with basically

952
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: the fewest points accumulated. The forwards were Anthony Davis and PJ. Tucker,

953
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: and then the guards were Patrick Beverley and Eric Bledsoe.

954
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: So obviously a lot of great defensive names there. I

955
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: think a lot of the same names you'd quite frankly

956
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: see on the media's official vote for all first and

957
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: second defense. But task was there a big surprise from

958
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: these ten guys that got the nod here or maybe

959
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: an a mission or two.

960
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: Eric Bledsoe, I'm a little surprised. Everybody on high on

961
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: the Eric Bledsoe trained. I mean, I think that was

962
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: the kind of the one that stood up to me

963
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: across the board. It seemed like the right amount of guys,

964
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: or the right guys were picked.

965
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: Lee, you agree largely.

966
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a little surprised given the two seasons that

967
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 3: Rudy get and Anthony Davis had that, Gobert still got

968
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: the nod. We know he's a great defender. Of course,

969
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: he's a Defensive Player of the Year, but I think Davis,

970
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: I hang on, well, if we've got Davis listed as

971
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: as a four.

972
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's classic, it's classic. Yeah, even the coaches struggle

973
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: with this crowd.

974
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. That to me, it was just again a

975
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 3: little surprise because Gobert at times this year, I don't

976
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 3: think he had his best defensive season at all. I

977
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 3: think a few times when the Jazz struggled, a lot

978
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: of it was because Gobert seemed to struggle, so, you know,

979
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 3: and he might have just been having a down season,

980
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: whereas Anthony Davis was largely I think tip to be

981
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 3: defensive Player of the Year. So for him to not

982
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: even make that first team on this pole is a

983
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 3: little bit surprising. But I'm glad to see Marcus Smart

984
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: in there because I think he is an incredible defender,

985
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 3: even if he doesn't have all the stats to back

986
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: it up. And so I feel that the coaches also

987
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 3: recognize that they like, Yeah, Marcus Smart. He does tons

988
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: for the Celtics defense, and good to see him getting recognition.

989
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: And Ben Simmons. I mean, he's a brilliant defender, so

990
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: I'm very happy to see him on the first team.

991
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tray, Marcus Smart got the most points for a guard,

992
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: so the coach is obviously very high on him. You know,

993
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: he was coming in actually right after Gobert and Giannis,

994
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: who led the way with the most votes. But were

995
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: you shocked by anything.

996
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 5: The Marcus Smart thing was interesting because there's one coach

997
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 5: that said he would be the very first defender he

998
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 5: chooses because just his tenaciousness and his versatility and you know,

999
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 5: being able to guard so many different kinds of guys.

1000
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 5: But then you look at the Defensive Player of the

1001
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 5: Year voting and Marcus Smart got two points two total

1002
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 5: points worth of votes, yet two third place votes and

1003
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 5: Defensive Player of the Year voting, because big man defense

1004
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 5: is so much more important than guard defense. And it

1005
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 5: really shows you once you're looking at the comparison between

1006
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 5: all defense teams and the actual Defensive Player of the Year,

1007
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 5: and that to me is where you see how much

1008
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 5: Giannis's defense has become underrated. You know, the guy's gonna

1009
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 5: could win MVP on his offensive performance alone. We know

1010
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 5: the Bucks are the best defense in the league. But

1011
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 5: you know, I think we have sort of bought into

1012
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 5: the idea that they have a great system and a

1013
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 5: great coach coach and a whole bunch of defenders who

1014
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 5: are committed to it. But the reason it works in

1015
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 5: the first place is because Giannis can do so much

1016
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 5: out there on the court, including what the coach has mentioned,

1017
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 5: the guy rebounds like crazy. Rebounding is the very end

1018
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 5: of defense, and Giannis is one of the best at it.

1019
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. I can't get too upset with these lists.

1020
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: I think again, it would be pretty similar to how

1021
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: the media would vote, maybe even ourselves. But I will say,

1022
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: like I like PJ. Tucker. I love him. I think

1023
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: he's getting a little bit of a bump. Maybe it's

1024
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: sort of Marcus Smart like a little bit where coaches

1025
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: love it because he's undersized, so you're like, wow, that

1026
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: guy's doing that defensively despite not being the biggest at

1027
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: his position, because I truthfully think when he's locked in.

1028
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: First off, Draymond Green is a better defender than PJ. Tucker,

1029
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: and he's better than a lot of these guys. But

1030
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: the Warriors had a garbage year and he didn't have

1031
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: a great year, because what was the hellder to really

1032
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: play for. And Paul George, I think is a better

1033
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: defender than PJ. Tucker, So I would have both of

1034
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: those guys over him. And again that's not a knock

1035
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: on Tucker. I just think those guys are better. And

1036
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: then you know you brought up led Cel tasks. You

1037
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: can make a case I think easily for a Lowry

1038
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: or Drew Holliday, and I know they did warrant some votes. Yeah,

1039
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: you can throw the home around there, But now, to me,

1040
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: both of those guys are just equally as good as

1041
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: defenders as they are bledsoe if not better, right.

1042
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would squeeze Lowry in there because

1043
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: I'm a Homer. But yeah, and Drew Holliday, this is

1044
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: he's one of those guys too that he's going to

1045
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: turn it on like a Draymond Green maybe from July

1046
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: thirty first to August fifteenth. That guy's a shutdown guy

1047
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: at times too. So yeah, some good some good guards

1048
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: out there. But yeah, I like the fact that the

1049
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: the the coaches didn't vote Draymond Green up there and

1050
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: just voted on reputation because I know I kind of

1051
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: go against you on PJ Tucker. The dude is he's great.

1052
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1053
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: You don't think Draymond Green' is a better defender than PJ.

1054
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: Tucker, Yes, I mean he's Yeah, he's a lot younger

1055
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: this year. This year they made the right pick though.

1056
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 4: PJ.

1057
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: Tucker's playing three, four or five.

1058
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's that's probably why because he's playing Senna,

1059
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: he's playing God, he's playing forward for.

1060
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: The right, Like it's like best rebounder.

1061
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 3: Well, it's like they've got literally no other big guy,

1062
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 3: so it's like he's kind of doing everything for the Rockets.

1063
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 4: Right right, the best defenders do everything.

1064
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but there's no one else on the time

1065
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 3: they've got like he's just sort of big by default,

1066
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: has to do all their defense for him.

1067
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: He's a great, yeah, all of all of these guys,

1068
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: like we said, there's there's absolutely no doubt I did

1069
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: love you and how we were talking about steel highlights

1070
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: on the Last Beach Step in podcast. There was a

1071
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: great line in this article on the Athletic and I

1072
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: encourage you to read it. One of the coaches anonymously said,

1073
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 1: anytime Kawai's hand is close to a ball, he's coming

1074
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: up with it. There's no fifty to fifty with Kawai.

1075
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: There's a ninety five to five with Kauai. I love

1076
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: that line, especially because we were talking about those steel

1077
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: highlights and it was taking cookies. Oh yeah, okay, good,

1078
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna add something to that.

1079
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: I love a good steal. I love a good steal.

1080
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 3: I might put little compilation together later on the on

1081
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 3: the on the tweets, maybe of Kawai just stealing the ball,

1082
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 3: it's great.

1083
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 2: Tweet.

1084
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know.

1085
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'll see if I get to it.

1086
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: You go down those rabbit holes and you're like, man,

1087
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 3: people have got to see these again because people everyone

1088
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 3: wants to see the dance and the you know, those

1089
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: sort of great plays. Sure, man, just going out there

1090
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: and just swiping the ball out of someone's hand.

1091
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 1: Look, look, if you do it, I'm retweeting it blind

1092
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: all right, right? Let you like steals? Do you like

1093
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: video games?

1094
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: Lee? I used to I used to love video games. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1095
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: I've sort of retired. I did say once I got engaged,

1096
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 3: or once I decided I was getting married, that I

1097
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 3: was going to retire from playing video games, and I've

1098
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 3: stuck to it pretty much.

1099
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 5: Wow, I really yes, But there's gonna be people told

1100
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 5: them there's gonna be video games inside the Orlando Bubble.

1101
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 4: He said, I'm not sixteen years old anymore.

1102
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I can't picture you Lee playing video games. Yeah,

1103
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: I can't.

1104
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 3: Me and eight Toes, Me and a Toes played a

1105
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 3: whole like season on NBA Live when we were living

1106
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 3: together in Toronto, and that was when I kind of realized, like,

1107
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: you know, the weather was great, we're inside playing video games.

1108
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 3: You know the weather was bad, We're inside playing video games,

1109
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: and just yeah, well, you got to.

1110
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: Like the guy's got eight tolls, he's got ten fingers.

1111
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: He wants to put them to us. You want to play.

1112
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 4: You have some good battles the power pad, You have.

1113
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: Some good battles.

1114
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 3: But it's actually, it's it's a terrible thing to do

1115
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 3: before you go to bed because you get so sort

1116
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 3: of hyped up and so tense and crazy.

1117
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: Because it starts off fun.

1118
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: It starts all fun.

1119
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm Gilbert Arenas you know. I hit a game,

1120
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: winn a great.

1121
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 3: But then you just like, I want to beat this

1122
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 3: guy and I want to kill him. I've got to

1123
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 3: win this game if I don't win this game.

1124
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: So you were playing against each other or each other? No, no, no, we.

1125
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 3: Were always It's like we went through and picked out

1126
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: like fifteen teams each and then sort of.

1127
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: Just bat and only a tournament.

1128
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah. We went to the end and his

1129
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 3: team was his best team was Phoenix, and I was

1130
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: seventy six is without Alan Iverson and I think I

1131
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: think eight toes one in seven games the final because

1132
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 3: he puts on he puts Sewan Marion on Alan Obvison.

1133
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 3: He kept stealing the ball. Oh yeah, yeah. I think

1134
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: he juiced the the defensive numberzer one showing Marion because

1135
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 3: he just kept stealing it. I was like, I can't

1136
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 3: believe he steals it every time.

1137
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: If you can put a compilation of old Ato's using

1138
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: Sean Marion stealing the ball from your Alan Everson NBA

1139
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: Live player, I'll retweet that too. You can put that up. Well.

1140
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: I asked that because we have some video game news.

1141
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: This is coming from hype Beast. This headline Kobe Bryant,

1142
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: Zion Williamson, and Damian Lillard are the NBA two K

1143
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: twenty one cover athletes. Yes, there are three versions of

1144
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: this game. Trey you're well a task. You sometimes dabble

1145
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: with two K, but I feel like you only play

1146
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: like one or two games. I think Trey plays the

1147
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: most out of everybody. What do you think about the

1148
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: three people here selected for these covers?

1149
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 4: Some exact actually nailed it. I can't believe it.

1150
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 5: Some what's completely right saying each of our cover athletes

1151
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 5: represents different eras of the game of basketball. Damian Lillard

1152
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 5: dominates the court today. You can't debate it. He's had

1153
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 5: sixty twice this season. Fifty twice this season. He has

1154
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 5: had a video game season. He's on the current Genets

1155
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 5: great Zion Williamson a standard bearer for the next generation

1156
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 5: of NBA superstar. He looks like a video game. You

1157
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 5: gotta put him on the next generation. Then what more

1158
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 5: could be said about Kobe? Kobe's Kobe?

1159
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 4: Put him on the Legends version. This is perfect?

1160
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess Can I be angry? Can I sound

1161
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: like a really old man? Say? Why do we have

1162
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: to have three covers? Back in my day there used

1163
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: to be one guy on the cover of NBA two

1164
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: K and then it's fair. Now there's because you're right,

1165
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: You're you said it exactly right. So Lillard is on

1166
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: the current version for like your PS four's and your

1167
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: Xbox ones and Nintendo Switch. But then Zion is on

1168
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: the one for the PS five and yeah, the new

1169
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: Xbox whatever that's called ten or something x that's.

1170
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, exactly right. So that Zion one, you can't

1171
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 5: even play it yet. You just got to look at.

1172
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: The pick, and I think that one is obviously like

1173
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: a special one. Yeah.

1174
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: Countries have their own versions. Yeah, like I don't know

1175
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: if there's an Australian one will probably have Ben Simmons,

1176
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 3: and Greek one will have Giannis and stuff like that.

1177
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're definitely used to have those. I assume they

1178
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: still do. Yeah, did you ever have a Barnianni cover fest?

1179
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: I totally was.

1180
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: I was definitely just thinking of that. In Italy they

1181
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: had what magazine was it? With Barnianni on the cover

1182
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: their annual the annual sort of basketball almanac. Barnianni was

1183
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: on it. Yeah, it's smart, smart branding. They're going to

1184
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: buy that over Damian Lillard. I guess sure.

1185
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: But these games tray are exactly the same, right, Like

1186
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: there's nothing new in the Is there something different in

1187
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: the Mamba edition or is it just.

1188
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 5: A cover skates, it's a hashtag whole new game. I'm kidding,

1189
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a basketball game. It's gonna be the

1190
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 5: exact same basketball game.

1191
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 4: Surely.

1192
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 2: Now you sound like an old man ski.

1193
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, and asking the questions that no

1194
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: one wants to ask.

1195
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 5: You're getting new rosters, bro, Come on, that's the most

1196
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 5: exciting thing, you know, rosters wise men. Yeah, but somebody's

1197
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 5: got to do that updating.

1198
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 4: You get new jerseys. Maybe they'll have a bubble version.

1199
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 5: I don't know what all they're going to do, but

1200
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 5: I'm just excited to get my copy, spend two and

1201
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 5: a half hours updating my system before I'm actually able

1202
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 5: to play it, and then put it in and spend

1203
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 5: hours looking for made up tweets that one of the

1204
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 5: four of us sent.

1205
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, are we still in the game?

1206
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 4: Do we know? That's the big change for two K

1207
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 4: twenty one.

1208
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 5: They put Lee in the next generations, stats are in

1209
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 5: the current generation, and task of course is a legend.

1210
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: Oh wow, test is the tweet you want to again?

1211
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 2: Sports? We're in the game.

1212
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: The game, alright? The covers, by the way, cost or

1213
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: the games, I should say Dame fifty us Zion cover

1214
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: the next gen sixty very nice. And then Kobe, what

1215
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: do you think he's costly? Eighty one?

1216
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: Man?

1217
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

1218
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 3: Eighty five bucks on eighty one up.

1219
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: More n nine ninety nine les crazy?

1220
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: That does seem a little crazy.

1221
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: Not really. I remember blades of steel cost like one

1222
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen dollars. I swear I got Canadian at

1223
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: one point.

1224
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 2: When I first came out with fifteen.

1225
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of taxi right up there.

1226
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: One hundred bucks's exact same price. I bet you know

1227
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: you mentioned Damian Lillard scoring sixty twice this year, Tray.

1228
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: I saw a line come out you if you are crazy,

1229
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: if you're a crazy animal and you want to bet

1230
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 2: on the bubble, which you shouldn't bet on the bubble,

1231
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 2: But the line for a player scoring amount of points

1232
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: in a single game in just the regular season is

1233
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: fifty five and a half. You can bet over under

1234
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 2: that line? Yeah, way under, I don't.

1235
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: Know, way under. You don't think one guy will go

1236
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: for fifty six? Probably not a big A couple of reasons. One,

1237
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: you know, you assume everbody's gonna be a little rusty offensively.

1238
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: I agree. The other thing is just minutes played.

1239
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna go for something. Yeah, what are they

1240
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: playing for? Especially with all this news coming out that

1241
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: you might not be playing with teams. I think you're

1242
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: gonna have more focus on practices and that kind of thing.

1243
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a lot. But then again, like hardened Lillard, like,

1244
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: I don't say it for the playoffs, Yeah, I don't know.

1245
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: All right. So you so Lee and task hitting. You

1246
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: said fifty five and a half for the seeding games. Trey,

1247
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: you got an opinion, you love.

1248
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 5: Points, give me an over Yeah, I think we'll get

1249
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 5: a sixty pointer from Lillard. I've been listening to every

1250
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 5: single show we did this season. Uh, and Willard is

1251
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 5: really sticking out to me as a video game guy.

1252
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 4: So he's on the cover. Why not take the bet.

1253
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm with Trey on this. Hit me with the over man.

1254
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: You got somebody rocking like power to the people on

1255
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: the back of their jersey going for for fifty eight

1256
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: or something, fifty nine sixty possibly.

1257
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 4: I love it.

1258
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Trey. I think we get it.

1259
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 5: I also saw something picking up heat on Twitter over

1260
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 5: the weekend. The idea that you know coming in people

1261
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 5: are like, man, it's gonna be weird for these players

1262
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 5: to be playing in empty gyms. Maybe it's gonna be

1263
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 5: harder for them to shoot with all these wide open spaces.

1264
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 5: But then it flipped over the weekend and people were saying,

1265
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 5: think about the idea of a practice player, somebody who's

1266
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 5: great when there's not as much pressure.

1267
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 4: There's not gonna be the fan pressure there. Maybe we

1268
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 4: get you know, I.

1269
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 5: Don't know, Harris Lavert scored fifty something this year. Is

1270
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 5: a Plumbly gonna go off in the bubble?

1271
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 4: Only time will tell.

1272
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought, what happens when Devin Booker gets double team?

1273
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: You can't double TV. Here's no fans here, So your

1274
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: practice game or we're gonna say, Leah, they're gonna say

1275
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: something there Plumbly like Plumley's chances.

1276
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't like plumber. I'll definitely take the

1277
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 3: under on Plumbley. But yeah, you know, I guess, I

1278
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 3: guess you could flip it the other way. The defenses

1279
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 3: won't be lucky in it'll be a bit sloppy at

1280
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 3: the so I.

1281
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: Think defenses are going to be better than the offenses.

1282
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: How many times have we seen a fifty six point

1283
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: game this season? How many times I don't.

1284
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: Know, six.

1285
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 4: Somebody stall while I do.

1286
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: Lillard's done a couple hard and done a couple. Uh yeah, put.

1287
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 3: Me down, Bradley Bill, Bradley Beal has yet four right right.

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Speaker 5: Right, right right, just has like six fifty five plus,

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Speaker 5: So fifty nine or more we've had four times Lillard

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Speaker 5: and hardened and then hardened it a fifty five And

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Speaker 5: like you guys are saying, Beal fifty five.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So it's gotta be one of those two. Good

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Speaker 2: it's gotta be a liard or hard.

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Speaker 1: I love your reasoning tasks. I'll even give you maybe

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Speaker 1: another reason why that would be tough to attain, especially

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Speaker 1: in the seating games, or even in any of the

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Speaker 1: games to go that many points. I'm still very curious

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Speaker 1: how these games are going to be officiated with no fans.

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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is maybe they are.

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Speaker 1: Maybe more things are uh being uncalled right, there's just

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Speaker 1: a lot more contact. Possibly, I have no idea. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's the opposite, but my gut says it will be that.

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Speaker 1: Because it's it's it is gonna have that vibe a

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Speaker 1: little bit of almost like a pickup game or a

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Speaker 1: practice game. You're not gonna call every damn whistle unless

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Speaker 1: you're Phil Jackson trying to send a message to somebody

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Speaker 1: on the team. So yeah, maybe you can't get Maybe

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Speaker 1: you won't be able to rack up those points at

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Speaker 1: the free throw line. Though that said, you get to

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Speaker 1: the free throw line, Lee, maybe the percentages are higher.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but wow, you can't. You can't got to Joe

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Speaker 3: Borger and because because he's not going to be there either.

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Speaker 1: No are they gonna be able to go to the

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Speaker 1: replay center though I guess they will.

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Speaker 3: Coaches coaches challenges as well for these last regular season.

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Speaker 1: A lot of questions, a lot of question mark. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Joe Borgia though retired for a long, long run. He

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Speaker 1: won't be in that replay center. So when we get

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Speaker 1: that one shot of them there is it?

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Speaker 2: Is he retiring immediately? We're going to get a farewell

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Speaker 2: tour in.

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Speaker 3: Our line authority was done. I thought he was done immediately.

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Speaker 1: Oh I believe Wow. Unfortunatelyfortunately all right, Well, lots to

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Speaker 1: be decided here still down in Orlando. We'll call it

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Speaker 1: there for today, guys, Thanks so much for listening. Beat

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Speaker 1: step in coming up this week, so email us your

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Speaker 1: in at No Dunk Sink. We got a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun podcasts lined up this week. Few guests in store,

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Speaker 1: We got another Squad episode in store. Look, I'll just

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Speaker 1: throw it out into the world. Let's see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember Dwight Howard has never

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Speaker 2: missed a free throw at practice. He's going to go

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent from the line in Orlando if he's

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Speaker 2: there there.

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Speaker 1: Embrace the day. People, to stay.

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Speaker 5: Every day.

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Speaker 1: And that be happy every minute.

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Speaker 2: It's been so long that you're the one of.

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Speaker 1: Waiting for.

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Speaker 2: It's happened already. It's gonna be grevy