Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour on this Wednesday. Hanna blew by quickly.
Speaker 1: The first two hours Dan and the Dan Nets Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show, We've touched on a variety of things, the
Speaker 1: John Gruden situation, and the NFL's role in this, the
Speaker 1: Washington football team, all of those other emails. I don't
Speaker 1: think this is the end of this, at least it
Speaker 1: shouldn't be. Also, we talked some basketball, the Kyrie Irving situation.
Speaker 1: Looks like the Brooklyn Nets are going to move forward
Speaker 1: without Kyrie Irving this year. Coming up at about fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: we'll talk to the great baseball writer reporter Tim Kirchin,
Speaker 1: get his thoughts on the postseason so far, who does
Speaker 1: he think is the team to beat? And we'll set
Speaker 1: the scene for Thursday night winner take All Giants and
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. You also have the Josel Twove question that
Speaker 1: we had last hour. At the end of last hour
Speaker 1: and is he a Hall of Famer? Will twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: be used against him for his Hall of career? That'll
Speaker 1: be coming up in a little bit eight seven seven
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Speaker 1: I mentioned the Buccaneers and the Eagles. That's Thursday night.
Speaker 1: You have Arizona at Cleveland. On Sunday, Chargers Baltimore, Kansas
Speaker 1: City at Washington. That one, to me is interesting because
Speaker 1: we're still waiting for Washington to be Washington, and Kansas
Speaker 1: City we're still not sure just how good they are.
Speaker 1: And ken Washington put up enough points here, Dallas at
Speaker 1: New England, Rams at the Giants. Now you can say, well,
Speaker 1: of course the Rams should be favored. And I don't
Speaker 1: know the status of Daniel Jones after he got his
Speaker 1: bell rung here, but you know the Rams are well
Speaker 1: rested the Giants. Here's the Giants they got, they had Dallas,
Speaker 1: they got the Rams, Carolina, Kansas City, Las Vegas, Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: That's pre Thanksgiving, now, I know. I said this a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago when I thought they could start
Speaker 1: out ohen ten. Well, I didn't think they were going
Speaker 1: to beat the Saints, and then they do in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: They could be one in nine. Hol's that. But Daniel Jones,
Speaker 1: do we have his status yet? Mcleven and maybe it's
Speaker 1: too Really on a Wednesday, I haven't seen it, but
Speaker 1: they're ten and a half point underdogs at home. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Obviously set in Saquon two is the golf ball size ankle.
Speaker 1: He's in trouble. Yeah, but there's some really good Arizona Cleveland.
Speaker 1: I love it, and you know Fox has that as
Speaker 1: a four o'clock game, so they're expecting some eyeballs on that.
Speaker 1: Chargers at Baltimore that's a one Eastern. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is justin Herbert Lamar Jackson. This is the first time
Speaker 1: that they've met each other I think in a game.
Speaker 1: Kansas City at Washington, Dallas at New England that's a
Speaker 1: lot of fun as well. The Rams at the Giants'll
Speaker 1: be Sunday at one as well. Yes, PAULI. This weekend,
Speaker 1: Steelers host the Seahawks without Russell Wilson. That's either a
Speaker 1: huge break and they become three and three or they
Speaker 1: lost to who on National TV Gino Smith. That's either
Speaker 1: it's not a no win situations. That's the tuppy, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because you gotta win it. Gino
Speaker 1: Smith defense, and even though he had a good, good
Speaker 1: outing and it doesn't matter. You gotta win these games.
Speaker 1: Even when you go boy you didn't play well or
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback was that. You just win those games
Speaker 1: because at the end of the season, nobody gives you
Speaker 1: style point. This is in college football where they go, man,
Speaker 1: you barely squeak by that team. It's just you win.
Speaker 1: That's all you care about. The victories. Nobody looks back
Speaker 1: and I go, this is the anniversary by the way
Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty. Bill Mazarovski let off the bottom of
Speaker 1: the ninth with the home run to beat the Yankees
Speaker 1: ten to nine Game seven of the World Series. If
Speaker 1: you look at the games the Yankees won in this series.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going off recollection, and of course my memory
Speaker 1: is a little scarred here, but the Yankees dominated every
Speaker 1: game that they won. They blew out the Pirates, and
Speaker 1: I think the Pirates all of their victories were by
Speaker 1: one run. Do you have those numbers, Paulli, Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is the nineteen sixty World Series, Pirates over Yankees. When
Speaker 1: the Yankees won games, it was sixteen to three, Yankees,
Speaker 1: ten to zero, twelve to zero. Yeah. And the games
Speaker 1: that they lost, I think they lost by one run.
Speaker 1: And the Pirates ended up winning the World Series. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how much you win by it's just you win,
Speaker 1: that's all. If you said to dodge your fans today,
Speaker 1: hey you're gonna win, but it's only gonna be five
Speaker 1: to four. You don't care. You just want to win. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: if you remember, I think it was the O four Alcs.
Speaker 1: You know, the Yankees were up three zero on the
Speaker 1: Red Sox in Game three was nineteen to eight Yankees
Speaker 1: and crushed them. Yeah, all of their wins. I think
Speaker 1: we're by you know, big numbers there, and the Red
Speaker 1: Sox just held on to win and obviously one World Series. Yeah, mclovin.
Speaker 1: For some reason, is anyone else here rooting for Gino Smith?
Speaker 1: You know, like it's a redemption story kind of fun,
Speaker 1: like yeah, okay, Seaton is, but that's West Virginia, right,
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a Carmelo Anthony. Let's get Gino
Speaker 1: get a ring. Yeah, where he came in the other night.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, look at Gino run around makeup plays.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good, growing darts, Like yeah, buddy, get some kid,
Speaker 1: all right. Yeah. The best thing that could have happened
Speaker 1: to Gino Smith is Russell Wilson got back in this
Speaker 1: week and we remember how good of a weekend last week,
Speaker 1: he'd got like five more years of backup money off
Speaker 1: that he cannot play bad this week undoes everything. You think.
Speaker 1: He might remind people of why he's a backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: If he plays, he starts, if given the opportunity, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's hitting up. But did they
Speaker 1: sign Blake Bortles as well? Another redemption story in Seattle?
Speaker 1: That'd be fun. You know it's fun, No, sir, I
Speaker 1: got I don't think anybody's going like, does anybody go? Boy?
Speaker 1: Be nice if Chase Daniel got another chance to play
Speaker 1: in the NFL chance. Yeah, everybody likes the backup quarterback,
Speaker 1: that's the thing, until he actually plays. I don't think
Speaker 1: everybody likes the backup quarterback. Who's the Bengals backup quarterback?
Speaker 1: It was Ryan Finley for decades. But I have no idea.
Speaker 1: Are you going? You know, it'd be nice if Ryan
Speaker 1: Finley gun in there and played a little bit. Not
Speaker 1: every backup is must see TV. Yes, Paul Chase Daniel man,
Speaker 1: he's at like almost fifty million dollars in his career
Speaker 1: as a backup quarterback. He's two and three. He started
Speaker 1: five games, it's awesome and look he's doing it right
Speaker 1: going out to Chargers. Yeah, cool uniform. Yes. Yeah. In fact,
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert mentioned Chase Daniel there's no chance of getting
Speaker 1: in the game. Probably not. Yes, if Joe Burrow gets hurt,
Speaker 1: which almost happened about four times last week. Brandon Allen
Speaker 1: coming in for the chruse. Brandon Allen speaking of Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1: You can go to Dan Patrick dot com and check
Speaker 1: out our home store there. We had Justin Herbert yesterday
Speaker 1: on the show and I asked him if he was
Speaker 1: having any fun twenty three years of age. You're in California,
Speaker 1: and he said, football is fun. So we've created a
Speaker 1: football is Fun T shirt for Justin Herbert. Yeah. Halloween
Speaker 1: t shirts up there too, Those are fun. Yeah. McLevin
Speaker 1: had it on earlier, but then you took it off.
Speaker 1: You had Fritzie's Halloween name T shirt on. I was
Speaker 1: scaring kids with Webster Slaughter Frank or Boo Weekly, Boo Weekly.
Speaker 1: I put it at a sweatshirt because it's always forty
Speaker 1: five degrees in this studio, because you like it cold. Well,
Speaker 1: if it's warm, then you'll fall asleep. Oh, I thought
Speaker 1: it was because broadcasters would sweat a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought that we have TV lights on in here,
Speaker 1: but this isn't as cold as Letterman Studio that you
Speaker 1: could almost almost see your breath. It was that cold.
Speaker 1: He'd have it in the forties, it felt like, and
Speaker 1: everybody backstage they'd have these big jackets on. But Dave
Speaker 1: loved to have the temperature really really cold. All right,
Speaker 1: which poll question we're going with? Okay, the last pole question,
Speaker 1: by the way, which quarterback would you take? Justin? Herbert,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomess it built around I think
Speaker 1: the LA audience woke up because Herbert caught up and
Speaker 1: now they practically tied with Mahomes. So I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is this has become a story this week, and
Speaker 1: that is justin. Herbert and Josh Allen have both played well.
Speaker 1: Their teams are good, all around good teams. And Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes is, you know, now on a team that is
Speaker 1: not invincible and he's playing well. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: just is it a speed bump? Is it a detour?
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is still the best quarterback I think in
Speaker 1: the NFL. I think the consensus would be among GMS.
Speaker 1: He's the best quarterback. But if you bail on him,
Speaker 1: then you bail on him for good. Now give you
Speaker 1: if you hit your wagon to Josh Allen Great, Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert great. They're really talented young quarterbacks, but they haven't
Speaker 1: been to a super Bowl, and we it feels like
Speaker 1: great our quarterbacks and their greatness on how many super
Speaker 1: Bowls have you been to? How many of you won? Well,
Speaker 1: Mahomes has been to two, he's won one and he's
Speaker 1: twenty six years of age. But this came up. I
Speaker 1: really think that it was Jimmy Johnson on Fox pregame show.
Speaker 1: Jimmy opened the door by saying he would take Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert over Patrick Mahomes. I don't think anybody had discussed this.
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Then Jimmy brings it up. Now it's
Speaker 1: a trending topic. Now everybody dives in and they like that.
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna take Justin Herbert. Okay, it's a wonderful talent.
Speaker 1: But it goes back to what I've said about these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert weren't quite sure. Well, hey, you're gonna take
Speaker 1: him or two? Uh, you're gonna take two? H do
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is gonna have to sit. Okay, Josh Allen, Okay,
Speaker 1: looks like he's raw. And then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: that raw became a roar, and we saw that he
Speaker 1: was able to beat you with his arm and his legs.
Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes Hey's gun slinger, you know, playing against big
Speaker 1: twelve defenses. Yeah, Okay. That's why when you listen to
Speaker 1: these people trying to tell you about quarterbacks, you always
Speaker 1: have to go, Okay, Lamar Jackson, I don't think he
Speaker 1: can do it in pros. You know, I don't think
Speaker 1: he can throw the ball. Well, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: buy the numbers like Okay. By the way, did you
Speaker 1: see Jim Ursay, the Colts owner, said that he was
Speaker 1: there when Gayle Sarah scored six touchdowns in a game
Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers at Wrigley Field. To me,
Speaker 1: it's the greatest single performance ever in NFL history. Well,
Speaker 1: Jim Ursay said, what he saw of Lamar Jackson against
Speaker 1: Jim Mersey's Colts is the great might be the greatest
Speaker 1: single performance he's ever seen in the NFL. Jim needs
Speaker 1: to go back and watch what Gail Says did. How
Speaker 1: he defied logic, like he was unbelievable. The field was
Speaker 1: a mess. So they're playing football on a baseball field
Speaker 1: and it's a mess. And Gayl Says turned in the
Speaker 1: greatest single game performance I've ever seen in my life
Speaker 1: because it wasn't just hey, I'm throwing five or six touchdowns.
Speaker 1: You know, Steve Young threw six touchdowns in a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl against the Chargers, wonderful performance. But watch what Gail
Speaker 1: Says did single handedly. It's the greatest single game performance
Speaker 1: ever in my opinion. Yeah, I checked the day. Jim
Speaker 1: Ursey would have been six years old when he saw
Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, he had no concept on what greatness is.
Speaker 1: Lawar Jackson was wonderful, but it wasn't magical, like watch
Speaker 1: what Keel Sarahs did. Watch how he makes these cuts.
Speaker 1: There's nobody in the history of the game who had
Speaker 1: that ability to have the ability to have the top
Speaker 1: part of your body over here and the bottom part
Speaker 1: of your body. I mean, you would say that was
Speaker 1: the matrix. He was the matrix before the matrix. Yeah. See.
Speaker 1: Part of the problem with Lamar Jackson, if there is one,
Speaker 1: is that he has so many spectacular plays they just
Speaker 1: start to get overlooked. There is a play in that
Speaker 1: game in the second quarter where it's third and ten
Speaker 1: and he is about to get sacked for surely for
Speaker 1: like a three or four yard loss, there's no doubt
Speaker 1: about it. He somehow squirms out of that turns that
Speaker 1: into about a seven yard game where he's going out
Speaker 1: of bounds or is going to be absolutely smashed by
Speaker 1: whoever's coming up to get him. And just before he
Speaker 1: steps out of bounds and is tackled, he just cuts
Speaker 1: real quick to the right and goes another five yards
Speaker 1: and turns it into a thirteen yard game. And then
Speaker 1: it was like, all right, there's Lamar Jackson onto the
Speaker 1: next one. He does that one hundred times a week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know you don't have to convince me. I
Speaker 1: was on the bandwagon before, you know, when the Ravens
Speaker 1: drafted him, Like I was like, oh my god, you
Speaker 1: know this guy is awesome. It's because we go, oh,
Speaker 1: he doesn't throw the way that you know Rogers does,
Speaker 1: or Brady does, or Breeze does, and he does all
Speaker 1: these other great things over here, things that Brady and
Speaker 1: Breeze and Rogers can't do. Yes, I think you're underestimating
Speaker 1: the importance of Lamar Jackson's win. I mean, he did
Speaker 1: beat a one in three Cults team who only lost
Speaker 1: because their kick our hingers hip any had three injured
Speaker 1: dbs and the Cults defense lost to pass that that
Speaker 1: was the most trivial game. To call it the greatest
Speaker 1: game ever. It was a great performance. But i'd come on,
Speaker 1: just google, Just google Gale says performance against the Niners
Speaker 1: that day at Wrigley Field, and just watch it. That's all.
Speaker 1: Just watch it and then you'll go, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he did this all in one game. Yeah, Paul. While
Speaker 1: we're googling, I was looking at Randall Cuttingham highlights back
Speaker 1: when he was with the Eagles and he was younger
Speaker 1: and he's in his prime. That's a guy would be
Speaker 1: fantastic in this NFL. If you could bring one guy
Speaker 1: from Gayle says would too, because he was a good
Speaker 1: pass catcher in a return man. But that's another player
Speaker 1: you'd love to have. Now, all right, we'll get to
Speaker 1: phone calls coming up. We'll take a break. Tim Kirchin
Speaker 1: is gonna join us. We'll talk to him about Dodgers
Speaker 1: Giants coming up Thursday night. Imagine you win at least
Speaker 1: one hundred and eight games and you don't continue in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. That's going to happen to somebody. And does
Speaker 1: he think that Rosielle Tuve is going to the whole
Speaker 1: of fame. We'll come back with Tim Kirchin and your
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Speaker 1: not sure what it is. I'm not patting myself on
Speaker 1: the back here, but we've had some guests as of
Speaker 1: reason who said, Dan, you look great. Did I look
Speaker 1: really bad before? Like that's how I would take this.
Speaker 1: You know, We've had like three or four guests in
Speaker 1: the last couple of days. They go, Dan, you're you're
Speaker 1: looking great? Dan, Yes, sometimes you look good. But I
Speaker 1: think it's that Seattle Kraken switcher that other days I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, it feels like I must have looked really bad.
Speaker 1: Don't we have to look really bad for somebody good?
Speaker 1: Maybe look good? Like they've said it in a way
Speaker 1: like oh, okay, yeah, you finally you don't okay, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you're out in the sun, you get a
Speaker 1: little color and you get a couple of extra compliments.
Speaker 1: You've been get a little sunlately? No, not at all.
Speaker 1: Vitamin D no, stay in the office, working hard. Yes,
Speaker 1: I can't just see it as you're looking progressively better,
Speaker 1: But you never were looking bad. You're always looking good,
Speaker 1: and you're just looking that much better. Dude. You just
Speaker 1: said it's my sweatshirt and you're a handsome man. But
Speaker 1: I think it has a lot to do with that
Speaker 1: particular color too. Yes, Seton, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: you've looked better back in the mother Ship down. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think you've had better runs. Mid nineties,
Speaker 1: I was on a roll. Hello, yeah, I must have been, butter.
Speaker 1: I was on a roll. Tim Kirchin, ESPN Baseball reporter, Tim,
Speaker 1: how do I look today? You look better than I do.
Speaker 1: Aaron Boone told me not long ago that I look
Speaker 1: like doctor Faucci. He's eighty. You look like doctor Faucci,
Speaker 1: he's eighty. And then the other day, when I was
Speaker 1: in Boston for the wild Card game, I ran into
Speaker 1: some friends and the wife, who I know very well,
Speaker 1: but I haven't seen her in years. She said, you
Speaker 1: know now that Paul Giamatti's lost a lot of weight
Speaker 1: and you've gotten a lot older, you look like Paul Giamatti.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a compliment or not. I
Speaker 1: don't look like Paul Giamatti. All I know is you
Speaker 1: look better than I do. And we are of similar age.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tim, I feel a lot better. That's the
Speaker 1: only reason why I wanted you to come on to
Speaker 1: say something nice about me, So thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I mentioned this last hour, and my guys did not.
Speaker 1: They whipped on it. They didn't get the answer. I'm
Speaker 1: going to guess that you'll know this. I have a
Speaker 1: favorite pitcher. He's still in the playoffs. He's had a
Speaker 1: lot of success in the playoffs, and he's thirty seven
Speaker 1: years of age. Do you want to guess the pitcher
Speaker 1: that I love. He's a guy that I love watching pitch.
Speaker 1: All right, it's Charlie Moore, Yes, it is. I love Dan.
Speaker 1: He's better now than he was when he was twenty seven.
Speaker 1: He's better now than he was when he was thirty one.
Speaker 1: This is the beauty of baseball. You know this. The
Speaker 1: light goes on for certain guys. I told you once
Speaker 1: that Matt Das like twelve years ago in the Braves Clubhouse,
Speaker 1: I mean the Pirates Clubhouse in spring training. Told me
Speaker 1: pointed to Charlie Morton and said Roy Halliday, and I'm
Speaker 1: looking at Charlie Morton's numbers and said he can't beat
Speaker 1: Roy Halliday and Matt Dyas said, watch, it's gonna come
Speaker 1: for this guy. And it has. And now he's thirty
Speaker 1: seven years old. He's got as good a curveball as
Speaker 1: there is in the major leagues. He throws ninety eight
Speaker 1: miles an hour yesterday thirty seven on short rest. He
Speaker 1: by the way, he is a he's a expert barbecue guy.
Speaker 1: He can make furniture, he can play the guitar, he
Speaker 1: can sing, he can do all this stuff. And yet
Speaker 1: I think he wants to retire. But he's wayn't too
Speaker 1: good to retire. They keep bringing it back, and he's
Speaker 1: so good. He says, all right, I'll play for another
Speaker 1: year because I'm good. I know, And he's you know,
Speaker 1: success in the postseason. It's just he's one of those
Speaker 1: guys that you get to the postseason, you see him
Speaker 1: pitch and you go, I'll be damned. You know. He's
Speaker 1: on a different team, but he's still very successful. And
Speaker 1: he's so good. By the way, Dan with barbecue, Sorry
Speaker 1: to interrupt, he has a little hitch on the back
Speaker 1: of his car where it's truck, where he can take
Speaker 1: the grill with him wherever he goes. So he's going on.
Speaker 1: So I said, have you ever, this is what he
Speaker 1: was with the Rays. I said, have you ever taken
Speaker 1: the grill like to the ballpark? He said, no way,
Speaker 1: you have to start grilling and all that at you know,
Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning. I'm not going to the
Speaker 1: trop at three o'clock in the morning just to see
Speaker 1: my teammates. So he's really good at stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I brought up Jo's a L. Twove who once again
Speaker 1: had a really good postseason, or he started out there,
Speaker 1: and then I was wondering that let's say they get
Speaker 1: to the World Series, Let's say they face the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: The cheating scandal is going to come up again from
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Are the voters going to hold that against
Speaker 1: jos L. Twoba for the Hall of Fame? I think
Speaker 1: some will. I've been a voter for thirty one years,
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to hold it against him. He's
Speaker 1: going to have Hall of Fame numbers for sure. Just
Speaker 1: go look at where he is in his career. Now
Speaker 1: look at all how many hits he's got. He's got
Speaker 1: nineteen postseason homers, he's stolen bases, he's won gold gloves,
Speaker 1: he won an MVPN. I understand he was in the
Speaker 1: middle of something he shouldn't have been in the middle of.
Speaker 1: But I'm not so naive to think that, Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: the only team that ever tried to steal a sign
Speaker 1: or cheat or something like that. We've been doing this
Speaker 1: in baseball for one hundred and forty years and I'm
Speaker 1: not condoning any of it. But if you're asking me,
Speaker 1: would I vote for him if he has the numbers,
Speaker 1: I will do. I think some people will say, no,
Speaker 1: he was part of they should have been a part
Speaker 1: of them, not vote for him. Yes, I think that
Speaker 1: will happen to some degree. Yeah, And you know, I
Speaker 1: get usually a flood of emails whenever the Astros do
Speaker 1: well because they're like, see, we don't need to cheat,
Speaker 1: We're good. And I always say, but why did you
Speaker 1: cheat in the first place if you didn't need to cheat?
Speaker 1: Are they a great story this year if they go
Speaker 1: to the World Series? Yes, that's a great story. It
Speaker 1: doesn't take away twenty seventeen, I still think baseball Baseball
Speaker 1: had taken away physically taken away the World Series trophy,
Speaker 1: since you couldn't take away anything else except for a
Speaker 1: couple of jobs with manager and GM. Would we be
Speaker 1: satisfied with that? As you know the Baseball jury. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's a good idea because if you take
Speaker 1: it away Dan, now other teams are going to say, well,
Speaker 1: what about us, we lost the World Series. I'm just
Speaker 1: making this up in nineteen eighty nine because the whole
Speaker 1: team we played against was juiced. And then the fifty
Speaker 1: one Dodgers can say, well, the Giants were stealing signs
Speaker 1: and they beat us in two out of three and
Speaker 1: ended up going to the World Series, why don't we
Speaker 1: win the National League? Pennant, I just don't think you
Speaker 1: can open up that box because there are too many
Speaker 1: things in it. Dan, Look for the rest of time,
Speaker 1: all those guys are going to have that as part
Speaker 1: of their resume. Some of them are going to have
Speaker 1: it in the first paragraph of whatever big story is
Speaker 1: written about them, and they're gonna get booed for a
Speaker 1: long time. Dan. You don't want people in your industry
Speaker 1: saying Dan Patrick's a cheater, we don't have any respect
Speaker 1: for him. That may not be enough punishment. You're not
Speaker 1: taking away the stats or the money or the trophy,
Speaker 1: but I sure wouldn't want somebody who I play against
Speaker 1: all the time saying I have no respect for you
Speaker 1: for what you did. That would hurt that would really
Speaker 1: hurt me. I know that you want the Astros Dodgers. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that would be pretty good. But let's just
Speaker 1: say the Giants, who are supposed to win seventy four
Speaker 1: games this year, supposed with fewer games than the Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: who lost like two hundred games this year, and the
Speaker 1: Red Sox who finished last last year. Let's say the
Speaker 1: Red Sox played the Giants in the World Series. I mean,
Speaker 1: that would be wildly interesting. But yes, I think everyone
Speaker 1: thinks that LA against Houston would be really cool, a
Speaker 1: rematch and all that stuff. I'm just a little afraid, Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm way too much of a goody two
Speaker 1: shoes here that we would get away from how great
Speaker 1: these players are and these teams are and concentrate more
Speaker 1: on what happened four years ago. And I'm just not
Speaker 1: sure that's what we should be doing in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: I set the scene for Thursday Night Dodgers Giants. Well,
Speaker 1: the Giants are so good, Dan, and I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I've looked for a comparable and I can't find it.
Speaker 1: Of a team that was supposed to win seventy four
Speaker 1: games and didn't add anybody of great significance where you
Speaker 1: can point to them and say, well, that's the reason
Speaker 1: they're so much better. The forty five Red Sox won
Speaker 1: seventy one games, and the next year they won one
Speaker 1: hundred and four and beat the Yankees and went to
Speaker 1: the World Series. But Ted Williams came back from World
Speaker 1: War Two and hit three forty two. That's the reason
Speaker 1: they got so much better. You can't identify that with
Speaker 1: the Giants, which is what makes their story so fascinating.
Speaker 1: Now they have good players, I mean Buster Posey's a
Speaker 1: borderline Hall of Fame or Chris Bryant. These guys are
Speaker 1: good players, but the whole team bought into this team concept.
Speaker 1: They hit the ball out of the ballpark, they pitch
Speaker 1: really well, and the scene for tomorrow night is going
Speaker 1: to be spectacular in that ballpark. Two teams who've never
Speaker 1: played in the playoffs, you know, since nineteen hundred playing
Speaker 1: in a winner take all game and Dan at the moment,
Speaker 1: they both have one hundred and nine wins, one hundred
Speaker 1: and nine and they're playing a best of five and
Speaker 1: the Deciders tomorrow night. I can't wait. I just wonder
Speaker 1: if there's any similarities with the Oral Hirsheizer Dodgers when
Speaker 1: they won the World Series, when they didn't have star power.
Speaker 1: They had Oral, but it wasn't a lineup that was
Speaker 1: a murderer's row. In fact, you didn't Bob Costas famously
Speaker 1: come out and say something prior to the start of
Speaker 1: that series about you know, you're going against a great
Speaker 1: team like the Oakland A's and the Dodgers really have
Speaker 1: no chance. I'm paraphrasing Bob here, but you know that
Speaker 1: that wasn't a formidable lineup that they had, right, But
Speaker 1: the Giants lineup is foreignable, Dan. They were leading the
Speaker 1: National League and home runs for most of the season
Speaker 1: and they think they finished second, just a couple behind.
Speaker 1: So they have a very good lineup. They just do
Speaker 1: it in a slightly different way. Instead of having three
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers, We're going to hit forty homers in
Speaker 1: the middle everyone on the team is hit five or
Speaker 1: more homers, like ten guys sit ten or more homers,
Speaker 1: and from one through eight in the order, and the
Speaker 1: order always changed. Somebody can hit the ball out of
Speaker 1: the ballpark. Lamont Wade, Will Murflores, all these guys who
Speaker 1: are are decent players, but when you put him in
Speaker 1: the right matchup, they become a really good player for
Speaker 1: that day. That's the secret of the Giants. Talking to
Speaker 1: Tim Kirchin, Baseball reporter, and he'll be with Carl Ravats,
Speaker 1: part of ESPN's regular Baseball Tonight telecast through the remainder
Speaker 1: of the postseason shows. The show airs every night at
Speaker 1: midnight Eastern ESPN Radio also the national audio home of
Speaker 1: the postseason. Continuing that covers all the way through the
Speaker 1: World Series. What's best for baseball with Shoheyotani his future, Well,
Speaker 1: he's got to keep doing what he's doing and that's
Speaker 1: going to be really hard to do to pitch that well.
Speaker 1: But part of me, but where do you it is? Oh? Oh,
Speaker 1: I see um? He should play with the Angels Mike
Speaker 1: Trout and he should be the stars that we all
Speaker 1: want to see. And I don't think it's that far off.
Speaker 1: But they are going to have to add literally three
Speaker 1: quality starting pitchers if this is going to happen, and
Speaker 1: then they're gonna have to add two quality relievers if
Speaker 1: this is going to happen, and they can do that,
Speaker 1: I believe with the money they have. I mean, just
Speaker 1: imagine Dan. Mike Trout's the best player most of us
Speaker 1: have ever seen. I saw William May's play, so Mike
Speaker 1: Trout might be the second best player I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: But Shoe Hotani is No one's ever seen that guy before.
Speaker 1: Imagine those two guys, the best player you've ever seen
Speaker 1: and the most remarkable player you've ever seen, taken their
Speaker 1: team into the playoffs. I think you have to keep
Speaker 1: those two together and then do whatever it takes to
Speaker 1: build around them. I'm not sure you can do it,
Speaker 1: but I just don't think they're that far off from
Speaker 1: being a playoff team. Baseball is a funny game. You
Speaker 1: go from real bad to real good, real good to
Speaker 1: real bad all of a sudden. I think it can
Speaker 1: happen with the Angels, but they better get some pitching soon.
Speaker 1: But I just wonder how long do you keep Ootani
Speaker 1: with the dual duties there, with pitching and being in
Speaker 1: the everyday lineup. Well, as long as you possibly can,
Speaker 1: because his stuff is tremendous. That split Dan is unhittable.
Speaker 1: His offense, obviously is. His power is ridiculous. He hit
Speaker 1: eight triples. No one's ever done what he did last
Speaker 1: year when it comes to pitching, defense, and mostly speed
Speaker 1: and power. It's just so I would tell him, if
Speaker 1: you're up for it physically, we want you to do
Speaker 1: exactly what you did in twenty twenty one. And if
Speaker 1: he can do that again, don't stop it. I just
Speaker 1: wonder if he'll be sort of a baseball version of
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson. Where Bo played football played baseball, probably could
Speaker 1: have been a Hall of Famer if he committed to
Speaker 1: one sport. I wonder if Otani could he be a
Speaker 1: Hole of Famer at both positions. If he concentrated on
Speaker 1: just one of those positions, I think he would have
Speaker 1: a chance. And look, I love Bo Jackson. I could
Speaker 1: tell you hours of Bo Jackson stories some of the
Speaker 1: things I saw him do. But Otani's a better hitter
Speaker 1: than Bo Jackson was, and obviously he's a better pitcher
Speaker 1: than Bo Jackson was. And yes, if Botany said I
Speaker 1: just want to hit, I think he could hit a
Speaker 1: ton of homers, steal a ton of bases, and be
Speaker 1: a way above average defensive outfielder. I think if he
Speaker 1: just wanted to pitch, I think he could be a
Speaker 1: twenty game winner with a n Eira under three. That's
Speaker 1: how good I think he is. Bo Jackson, by the way,
Speaker 1: Dan was the fastest and the strongest guy in the game,
Speaker 1: I believe at the same time. Think about that. He
Speaker 1: could outrun anyone, and he was stronger than anyone. Jimmy Stewart,
Speaker 1: a scout, once told me a long time ago. He said,
Speaker 1: I scouted Bo in college. He said, I saw him
Speaker 1: hit a five hundred foot home run and then he
Speaker 1: ran out and caught it before it hit the ground,
Speaker 1: and then he threw it back the home plate in
Speaker 1: the air. That's how he described the tools of Bo Jackson.
Speaker 1: Not that it had happened, but you know that it happened.
Speaker 1: He was joking. Yeah, it's still he's one of those
Speaker 1: He's just one of those names that if he had
Speaker 1: stayed healthy, you just wonder what he would have accomplished
Speaker 1: in either one of those sports. Yeah, George Brett used
Speaker 1: to tell me. He said, I never never once missed
Speaker 1: the Bojackson at bat. I never went to the bathroom
Speaker 1: once during a Bojackson at bat because I might miss
Speaker 1: something that I've never seen before. And I was there
Speaker 1: that night. Dan, you know, that when he ran up
Speaker 1: the right the left center field fence in Baltimore, I
Speaker 1: was covered in that game. He looked like a race
Speaker 1: car going around a ramp turn, you know, a two
Speaker 1: hundred and forty pound man at full speed running up
Speaker 1: the fence like that. It was fascinating. And every time
Speaker 1: Harrod Reynolds used to tell me, we love Harrod Reynolds.
Speaker 1: Of course, every time Bow would get on first in
Speaker 1: like a double play situation, Harold would yell to Bow,
Speaker 1: this is baseball. It's not because Harold was gonna have
Speaker 1: to hang in there at second base if he was
Speaker 1: turning two or Bows stealing right. We don't have to
Speaker 1: do that anymore, Dan, But back then, when two hundred
Speaker 1: and forty pounds of metal spikes came at you at
Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour, that was a bad situation.
Speaker 1: All right, How does the postseason end? How does it
Speaker 1: play out? Well? I've been wrong so far, so badly.
Speaker 1: But I picked the Dodgers to beat the Rays in
Speaker 1: the World Series, So I'm gonna say stay with it. Somehow,
Speaker 1: some way, the Dodgers are gonna win Game five. That's
Speaker 1: taking nothing away from the Giants, and Giants I just
Speaker 1: told you are great. I just think whoever wins that
Speaker 1: series beats the Braves, even though I just did the
Speaker 1: Brave Series for four games and Freddie Freeman is so
Speaker 1: good and their pitching was so great. They dominated the
Speaker 1: Brewers with their pitching. I just don't think the Braves
Speaker 1: can beat the Giants or the Dodgers American League. I
Speaker 1: think the Astros beat the Red Sox, but if you
Speaker 1: just scount the Red Sox one more time, you're making
Speaker 1: a mistake. I just think that the Astros are better,
Speaker 1: and I think the Dodgers beat the Astros in the
Speaker 1: World Series. Now that's what I think, But I certainly
Speaker 1: don't know. And the beauty of this postseason, like everyone is,
Speaker 1: anyone who thinks he knows it's going to happen is
Speaker 1: just hasn't been watching baseball for the last forty years.
Speaker 1: You're looking good, tim doctor Fauci, and I look an
Speaker 1: awful lot of light. Yeah, he's eating. I was talking
Speaker 1: to a guy recently. We're going over some old some
Speaker 1: old baseball for the fifties or sixties. This was a
Speaker 1: few years ago, and he goes, oh, you know a
Speaker 1: lot about baseball. What are you seventy seventy five. I
Speaker 1: was fifty eight years old and five was seventy five.
Speaker 1: It's terrible. Keep your head up, Tim, I will thank you, Bud,
Speaker 1: all right, see you soon. That's Tim Kirchin, ESPN Baseball reporter.
Speaker 1: He'll be with Rabbi. Tim is sixty four. By the way,
Speaker 1: Doctor Faunci, I think is eighty. He'll be part of
Speaker 1: the ESPENS regular Baseball Tonight telecast. They're the remainder of
Speaker 1: the postseason. There's certain people I worked with at ESPN
Speaker 1: who they were just national treasures for us because they
Speaker 1: loved what they did. And Tim is that one of
Speaker 1: those guys. He just loves what he does. He truly
Speaker 1: loves baseball, always talking about the positives. He knows so
Speaker 1: much history. I told the guys that he would know
Speaker 1: that picture I was talking about Charlie Morton, and he
Speaker 1: would have something to add to that. That. He's a
Speaker 1: great barbecue guy and he can make furniture. I got.
Speaker 1: That's just Tim. He's a He's a national treasure. He's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite favorite people. Yes, we all love
Speaker 1: how passionately is were. His voice that's going high and
Speaker 1: h he's trying to make and then you're just you
Speaker 1: can just see where the arc is going with with Tim.
Speaker 1: But but he cares. He truly cares about what he does.
Speaker 1: All right, last call for phone calls, what we learned,
Speaker 1: what's store tomorrow right after this. Thanks for listening to
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Speaker 1: Squid Game. I think I'm five episodes in. You only
Speaker 1: need to get through the first half of the first
Speaker 1: episode before you realize that this is something different than
Speaker 1: you're used to seeing Red Light green Light, the game
Speaker 1: we play when we were kids, will never be the same.
Speaker 1: Don't let your kids watch red Light green Light in
Speaker 1: the Squid Game. Yes, McLevin. Yeah, my eleven year old
Speaker 1: daughter says, everybody's watching I honestly, I almost had to
Speaker 1: turn it off because it's too violent. It is great, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's just interesting. I would say eleven is too
Speaker 1: young to be watching this. I'd say at least a teenager.
Speaker 1: Not not to tell you how to parent your kids.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I always ask the guys, what's the
Speaker 1: age for this show? Yeah, I would say at least
Speaker 1: a teenager. Yeah, pole more to disturbing or entertaining, Well,
Speaker 1: you can have both. I'd say disturbing. Wow, just the
Speaker 1: concept of it visually. Visually it's one of those where
Speaker 1: you're you just haven't seen anything like this. Yes, see,
Speaker 1: it's so entertaining to me. It's disturbing, man, is it?
Speaker 1: It's wild? Yeah? Yeah, me club every weekend. I come back,
Speaker 1: though it's Heaton's watching some terror movie or some horror
Speaker 1: movie that I wouldn't in a million I don't even
Speaker 1: like reading the plot of Wikipedia. He's got an appetite
Speaker 1: for that. That's unbelievable. Yeah, last golfer phone calls Doug
Speaker 1: in North Carolina, leads us off, Hey Doug, what do
Speaker 1: you have for it? Well, Dan, I've got a great
Speaker 1: question for you. You were talking about this movie that
Speaker 1: they're making about Sean Payton, and I know they're coming
Speaker 1: out with a biopic of Kurt Warner. So here's my question.
Speaker 1: If I gave you a blank check to produce a
Speaker 1: sports biopic on a topic that's never been done before,
Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple of options. MJ in the
Speaker 1: minor leagues, Pete Rose on gambling, or a classic some
Speaker 1: you know somebody who died before their time, like Stuart Scott.
Speaker 1: What do you think makes the best movie? Oh? Boy?
Speaker 1: You know. There are times, and I don't mean to
Speaker 1: be evasive, it's just there are times when somebody says, like,
Speaker 1: I'm watching eight Mile with Eminem last or two Nights ago,
Speaker 1: the very end of it. And I remember when I
Speaker 1: first heard they were doing a movie on Eminem and
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, come on, and then I realized it
Speaker 1: was Brian Glazer who was doing it, and I thought, wow, okay,
Speaker 1: and then I saw quotes where he said Eminem was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm terrible when I read scripts all the Sandler movies.
Speaker 1: When I read a script, I'm like, I don't get it,
Speaker 1: or you know, I don't know how this makes it. Well,
Speaker 1: that could be just Sandler scripts, but there are times
Speaker 1: when you go, here's the concept, and then you go,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm interested. But then you see
Speaker 1: what they do with a story, and they take a
Speaker 1: part of the they make a story out of the
Speaker 1: bigger story. They just do it in a way where
Speaker 1: you go, oh, wow, I didn't I didn't know that
Speaker 1: that was going to be the focus of this and
Speaker 1: that's where I find it amazing. You know, all of
Speaker 1: those that you mentioned, I guess, but you got to
Speaker 1: find the right person. And then what are you trying
Speaker 1: to sell? What are you trying to tell? And that's
Speaker 1: the tricky part when when you see these people who
Speaker 1: are storytellers, and there's a reason why they're so successful
Speaker 1: and rare because they see something, they feel something that
Speaker 1: you don't, but they do understand how to make that
Speaker 1: translate off the page to something you do care about.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, we've talked about this before with
Speaker 1: documentaries or you know, could there be a movie on
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be just sports. His sports is tricky.
Speaker 1: And there's so many of these small stories like schools.
Speaker 1: Something happened at a smaller school, but you know, you're
Speaker 1: you're not sure how it kind of flies off the
Speaker 1: pages where you see it on the big screen and
Speaker 1: you go, God, that's unbelievable. And never like Rudy, like
Speaker 1: they made Rudy. If I would have said, oh, it's
Speaker 1: a guy walked on, he got in and he got
Speaker 1: it in for a couple of plays and he got
Speaker 1: a sack, you go, all right, But then you see
Speaker 1: Sean Aston. You know it comes together, they make it work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mclovin, did you like the Howard Stern movie? Kind
Speaker 1: of like the Eminem movie. I never would have thought
Speaker 1: they could make a movie out of that. I'd liked it.
Speaker 1: I didn't think that I would like it, just didn't. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: I remember hearing the pitch for Madmen or these when
Speaker 1: they were teasing it on AMC or whatever channel. It's
Speaker 1: about the sixties and advertising, like, oh, that couldn't be
Speaker 1: more boring. I thought Madmen would be terrible, and it
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite of all time. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think of there are other movies that do you
Speaker 1: think of that? When you first heard the concept or
Speaker 1: the pitch, you'd be like, I don't know, you got one. Mcloch.
Speaker 1: I'm so with you. On the Eminem movie. I thought
Speaker 1: it was so far too early and unbelievable how they
Speaker 1: execute it. It was great, it really was, and he
Speaker 1: was great in it. Um unbelievable. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: he's playing himself, but you still it's it's sometimes it's
Speaker 1: hard to play yourself because you're acting as you're playing yourself. Yeah, See,
Speaker 1: gotta be honest. I'm pretty curious to see how the
Speaker 1: Sean Payton movie comes out. I'm like, how did you
Speaker 1: how do you make a movie out of that? I
Speaker 1: said the same thing, And especially the people involved, who
Speaker 1: are all supremely talented, They're all amazing. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: how are they going to put a spin on this?
Speaker 1: That's like sort of theirs? I know. And you've got
Speaker 1: Kevin James, who's playing Sean Payton. Yeah, Paul. When I
Speaker 1: heard Moneyball the book was gonna be made into a movie,
Speaker 1: I said, how are you going to spice up analytics? Yes?
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden it's like, well, Brad
Speaker 1: Pitt's playing Billy Bean Analytics. Yeah, well but spicy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But this isn't about necessarily the action they're going to
Speaker 1: show you. Is about everything about leading up to the
Speaker 1: action on the field. Jonah, I was wonderful in that movie.
Speaker 1: Let's see a couple of phone calls in here Drew
Speaker 1: in New Mexico. Hey, Drew, what's on your mind today? Hey?
Speaker 1: I got like, well, now, listening to your Moneyball take,
Speaker 1: I got like eight things, but just give me one,
Speaker 1: give me one, Drew, No, I need Hey, I need advice? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm I've been a Cleveland Indians fan since I was
Speaker 1: five years old. I'm four years old. Now I can't
Speaker 1: root for the Cleveland Guardians. Oh, I need a new
Speaker 1: baseball team. Hold on, don't hang up. Secondly, I've noticed
Speaker 1: that mclovin has not said aster risk since the last
Speaker 1: time I corrected. I'm on, he can't say the word
Speaker 1: aster risk. And Thirdly, I have a joke for Todd.
Speaker 1: All right, hurry up, Drew, I need I need Todd
Speaker 1: to interact here. That okay, that Dolly Llama walks into
Speaker 1: a pizza joint and says, I'd like to order a pizza. Okay,
Speaker 1: what kind of pizza would you like? Guy? Say, what
Speaker 1: kind of pizza would you like? Make me? Make me
Speaker 1: one with everything? Is that's a joke? They should work together?
Speaker 1: These two should work together. Oh wow, wait, no, make
Speaker 1: me one with everything? I'm just getting that. Now. Why
Speaker 1: don't you guys work together? Make me a little little
Speaker 1: road show the world? Yeah? Ye, aren't you curious with
Speaker 1: the other five things? I kind of am because he goes, okay,
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