1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Gatty and he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 3: Authorities Imprey recently arrested a man who allegedly tried to 5 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: smuggle hundreds of live spiders and insects out of the 6 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: country by strapping them to his body. He might have 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: gotten away with it except for the fact that he 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: never stopped screaming. 9 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 4: No, kidding, gut, I would Oh geez, we have some 10 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 4: breaking news. This is actual breaking news, Michael, actual breaking news. 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: Then I want your news breaks the Donkey brays. This 12 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: is breaking news. 13 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 4: I want you to hear it here before you hear 14 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 4: it on the playground. First of all, this from the 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: New York Times. A hacker and I'm using my finger 16 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 4: quotes because it might have been a hacker technically, but 17 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 4: were they directed or helped anyway? A hacker is said 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 4: to have downloaded the file containing the testimony about Matt 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 4: Gates from that House committee. 20 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 5: No. 21 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: The file is said to include the sworn testimony by 22 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 4: the woman who said she had sex with Gates when 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 4: she was seventeen, so that whole committee report that was 24 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 4: supposed to come out Friday that didn't. Now a hacker 25 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 4: has hacked in and gotten it, which might be true, 26 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 4: and might be somebody said, hey, if you go to 27 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 4: this website at two o'clock, I'll post it for you 28 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 4: and you grab it, all right, and password. 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 6: Is Congress, but with dollar signs instead of the. 30 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: Essays right, and would be as likely a Republican as 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 4: a Democrat because he has very few friends. And then 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 4: this related to it, which is a heck of a 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 4: bomb from your close friend Marjorie Taylor Green. 34 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, we bonded. We met in an airport and 35 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 6: we had a brief Maturia affair. 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: Marn't everyone knows that Marthie Taylor Green just tweeted this out. 37 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: Man. 38 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: She and Gates in those that crowd play hardball for 39 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: my Republican colleagues in the House and Senate. If we're 40 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 4: going to release ethics reports and rip apart our own 41 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 4: that Trump is appointed and then put it let then 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 4: let's put it all out there for the American people 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 4: to see. Yes, she says, dot dot dot all the 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 4: ethics reports and claims, including the one I filed all 45 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 4: your sexual harassment and assault claims that were secretly settled, 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 4: paying off victims with taxpayer money, the entire Jeffrey Epstein files, tapes, recordings, 47 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 4: witness interviews, and not just know those. There's more than Epstein. 48 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 4: He wasn't the only one. If we're gonna dance, let's 49 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 4: all dance in the sunlight. All make sure we do. 50 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 6: Wow, that's bringing it. 51 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 4: That is bringing it, Cause there are remember that report 52 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 4: that came out of several years ago where we found 53 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: out there was like three hundred people in Congress or 54 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 4: something like that that had settled claims out there, taxpayer 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: paid claims, and then that stuff all went away. 56 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: And she's saying, well, let's release all that. 57 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 4: Let's hear from all these people that you that you 58 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 4: settled with over the years and what you were accused 59 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: of doing, et cetera, et cetera. If we're gonna dance, 60 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 4: let's dance on the sunlight. She says, Yeah, this is 61 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: this is a. 62 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 6: Beautiful example of when you can hold two you know, 63 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 6: somewhat post thoughts in your head. I'm not a big 64 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 6: fan of Matt Gates. I don't think he's a good guy. 65 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 6: I don't think he would be a good Attorney General, 66 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 6: even though the dog DJ really needs to shake up. 67 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 6: On the other hand, in DC, and this is fairly 68 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 6: well known, getting called on your sins is entirely a 69 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 6: matter of who's mad at you, and once you want 70 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 6: you out of your way, because there are plenty of 71 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 6: sins going on that never get called out. Because you've 72 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 6: got friends, you got us support structure, you're the in crowd. Yeah. 73 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: I don't know this, but I suspected heavily if there 74 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 4: are like a hundred other guys who have done exactly 75 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 4: the same thing in positions of power, they just it 76 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: just didn't, you know, make the light a day for 77 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: some reason, I could see why you'd be a little 78 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: annoyed at the idea. Annoyed at the idea of, oh 79 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 4: so Matt Gates doesn't get to be Attorney General because 80 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: of this? How about you on this committee? Are you 81 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 4: in that cabinet position? 82 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, as long as it doesn't get witch hunty, I 83 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 6: could see, you know, let's just like my sweetheart says, 84 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 6: let's just sign and shine the light on it and 85 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 6: take a look at it. My hesitance in going along 86 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 6: with their plan is that and we've seen this in 87 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 6: our professional lives. A lot of lawsuits are bull crap. 88 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 6: They're an effort to get a check. Yeah, I'm gonna 89 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 6: accuse you of sexual harassment. Well we'll settle for twenty 90 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 6: five grand. Okay, we're done here. 91 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 92 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 4: Well that's the hegzeth claim, right the guy that is 93 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 4: up for Department of Defense. 94 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, and that accusation went nowhere. 95 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: Secretary of Defense that he did pay a woman for 96 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: the case to go away. 97 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he did it. 98 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, settlements happen all the time when lawyers say, okay, 99 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 6: you can settle this for ten k or defend it 100 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 6: for one hundred k. 101 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: It's ugly situation because yeah possible, it's. 102 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 6: Forever know, and we need tort reform. But that's a 103 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 6: different subject for a different day. 104 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 4: How about that for Marjorie Taylor Green? Hmmm, I wonder 105 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: if that would go. 106 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 6: To dance Let's dance in the Sunlight, which sounds like 107 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 6: a soft rock tune from the nineteen seventies. 108 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: But well, you do have a lot of Democrats and 109 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 4: Republicans saying we need, we need to release the committee 110 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 4: report on Matt Gates. Okay, you want to, let's release 111 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: all of these reports over the years from the very settlements. 112 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 4: So let's just get them all out there. So were 113 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: there two pieces of breaking news? 114 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 6: Was that the two? 115 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 116 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 6: There are the download in the Marjorie? Yeah, yeah, okay, cool, okay. 117 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 6: I didn't want to jump in, you know, ahead of 118 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 6: schedule here. So at the end of the last hour, 119 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 6: I was discussing the banana duct tape to the wall, 120 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 6: which is modern art worth over a million dollars according 121 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 6: to Sotheby's. What is it? 122 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: What is it supposed to portray? What is it? 123 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 6: Then? And by the way, it's literally, that's exactly what 124 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 6: I'm going to get to. Literally, a banana duct tape 125 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 6: to wall. It's not like an exquisite oil painting by 126 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 6: one of the Italian masters of well they didn't have 127 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 6: duct tape back in the day. But a banana duct 128 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 6: tape to wall. 129 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 4: No, it's literally that I'm going to assume it represents 130 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: man's inhumanity demand That's what I always say about modern art. 131 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 6: WHOA how many did you? You got a PhD? In 132 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 6: art history? Is that right? Yeah? Because you're close. I 133 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 6: will tell you this though, this is and I'm not 134 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 6: automatically contemptuous of anybody who's a quote unquote experts or 135 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 6: learned or whatever. But this is such a beautiful example 136 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 6: of exactly what Thomas Sowell was talking about. There are 137 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 6: some ideas so crazy, stupid, ill advised, whatever, that only 138 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 6: an intellectual could hold them. And my theme for the 139 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 6: first couple hours of the show, and if you didn't 140 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 6: hear them, I beg of you, sour two. Cut the crap. 141 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 6: Don't be bamboozled by these ridiculous things. Were being told. 142 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 6: A man can become a woman if he just says 143 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 6: he's a woman. No, he can't. 144 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: Before you get to telling us what a banana duct 145 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 4: taped to a wall means. Yes, if you walked into 146 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 4: someone's home and they showed you that, and even if 147 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: they didn't hit you at the number, they said, yeah, 148 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: this is from the Italian artist so and so, And 149 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 4: I tell you what, Rizio Catalan. I paid a pretty 150 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 4: penny for this. I had to outbid several uh version, 151 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: wouldn't your immediately immediate thought be you're an idiot? 152 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 6: I would look for a long moment or two for 153 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 6: signs that they were kidding, that it was a joke. 154 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: And then if it wasn't a joke, I would think 155 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: you're an idiot. 156 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 6: Then I would think you're an idiot. All right, So 157 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,119 Speaker 6: here you go. It's a banana duct tape to Walter 158 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 6: Ig the end. 159 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: That's it. That's the whole thing. 160 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 6: According to Sotheby's, it's worth between one and one point 161 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 6: five million dollars, even though this guy has sold several 162 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 6: editions of it. There's the duct tape, grafts banana off 163 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 6: the tapes to the wall. There's another hundred and fifty k. Honey, 164 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 6: this is the best idea I've ever had. 165 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: But anyway, back to soul, so it's on. It's like 166 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: the signed lithograph copy thingy. When he tapes another banana 167 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 4: of the wall, I guess. 168 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, a frudograph anyway. David Galprin, Sotheby's head of 169 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 6: Contemporary Art, told the Associated Press that Katlan Mauricio Catlan 170 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 6: created a provocative work of art, and I quote, what 171 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 6: Katalan is really doing is turning a mirror to the 172 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 6: contemporary art world and asking questions, provoking thought about how 173 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 6: we ascribe value to artworks, what we define as an 174 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 6: art work, and went on what you buy when you 175 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 6: buy Katalan's comedian. I didn't mention that the banana duct 176 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 6: tape to the wall. The title of it is Comedian. 177 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: That seems like a wink to me. 178 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 6: Eh, it's a little on the nose, honey old Schnazola. Anyway, 179 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 6: when you buy Katlan's Comedian, what you buy when you 180 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 6: buy Kartlan's Comedian is not the banana itself, but. 181 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: It's a certificate that a million and a half dollars 182 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 4: banana seems outrageous. 183 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 6: They got him by the bunch down there, de Kroger. Anyway, 184 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 6: let me get through this. Wh What you buy when 185 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 6: you buy a Catalan's Comedian is not the banana itself, 186 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 6: but a certificate of authenticity that grants the owner of 187 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 6: the permission and authority to reproduce this banana and duct 188 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 6: tape on their wall as an original artwork by Maurzio Katlan. 189 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 6: Chloe Cooper Jones, an assistant professor at the Columbia University 190 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 6: School of the Arts. Is there any more corrupt and 191 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 6: verse institution in America than Columbia University? I wonder? She said. 192 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 6: The piece quote stands at the intersection of the sort 193 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 6: of humor and the deeply macabre. He's quite often looking 194 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 6: at ways of provoking us, not just for the sake 195 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 6: of provocation, but to ask us to look into some 196 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 6: of the darkest parts of history and ourselves. What the what? Wow? 197 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 6: It would be hard to come up with a better 198 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 6: simpler symbol of global trade and all of this, all 199 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 6: of its exploitations than the banana. No important, profound, meaningful 200 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 6: artwork of the past one hundred or two hundred years, 201 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 6: or our history for that matter, did not provoke some 202 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 6: kind of discomfort when it was first unveiled. Wow. Cooper 203 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 6: Jones noted that the banana itself is a symbol for 204 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 6: colonialism and corporate power. Wow. 205 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: That is something. 206 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: Wow, It's I'm a big Andy Warhol fan, and one 207 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: of the reasons I like Andy Warhol is I believe 208 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: he knew exactly what he was doing. He was he 209 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 4: went to his grape thinking you all are crazy. 210 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: I think. 211 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 6: You still don't know I'm messing with Wow. 212 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: Wow exactly. 213 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 6: So if I were to go down to the local 214 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 6: grocery store, grab some duct tape out of the garage, 215 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 6: and duct tape of banana to my wall, would that 216 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 6: be some sort of copyright violation or good question? What 217 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 6: if it was a spoiled banana to symbolize this spoiled 218 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 6: colonialism that is rotted out at equatorial somebody or other. 219 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: Or a green one. 220 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 4: Underripe portrayal of the flattening of the world economy. 221 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 6: It symbolizes the exploitation of brown youth in the Third World. 222 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 6: Look at that. The bananas symbolizes the young people, because 223 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 6: it's a young banana. Do you get it? Do you 224 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 6: get it? 225 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: You are an idiot. They should be in charge of nothing. 226 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 4: No kidding, you should be respected for nothing. In charge 227 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: of nothing. Listen to never. 228 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 6: Right, go keet a brush and some soap and clean 229 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 6: a toilet for a while. Okay, down here on Earth, 230 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 6: we've got stuff going on all right. 231 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is hilarious. More all the ways there. 232 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 4: So I was watching MSNBC this morning. I do that 233 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 4: to see what they're talking about. I think everybody should. 234 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: Uh. 235 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 4: And Bremer's got an interesting pinned tweet at the top 236 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 4: of his Twitter. It says, if you're not following somebody 237 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 4: you don't agree with, you're doing it wrong. And I 238 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: feel the same way about Twitter, reading newspapers, watching TV channels. 239 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: Watch watch the channels you don't like, because there's there's 240 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 4: a lot to learn from that. Anyway, On MSNBC, they 241 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: were discussing that Pew study that came out about how 242 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 4: many young people get their news from social media, and 243 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: Mike Barnacle, who's an old Boston Globe writer who's like 244 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 4: eighty years old, I mean, like really from old school journalism, saying, 245 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 4: I don't know if we can ever be relevant again 246 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: in newspapers and television. And you know, one of the 247 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 4: reasons it's gonna be hard to be relevant again is 248 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 4: the crap that you put out. Stop putting out crap, 249 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: and it'd be a lot easier to be relevant. So 250 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 4: on that very channel we played yesterday, their morning host 251 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: Joe Scorbarro and Mika Brazilinski, who are actually big deals 252 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: in democratic politics even though you've never watched them, went 253 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: and visited Trump over the weekend. They went and sat 254 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: down with Trump and tried to have some sort of 255 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: we need to understand the Trump voter or something. 256 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what they're They bent. 257 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 6: The knee, jack, they bent the knee. 258 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's what happened, but anyway's kind 259 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 4: of hilarious. They went down and met with Hitler. After 260 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: all the awful things they had said about Trump leading 261 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: up to the election. 262 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 2: Here's a little montage of that. 263 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 7: I could go back and talk about Nazi Germany, and 264 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,239 Speaker 7: I do it. I do it without any concerns whatsoever. 265 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 7: And if people can't start drawing the parallels, well you're 266 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 7: just stupid, or you have your head in the sand, 267 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 7: or you're one of them. It's just staggering that people 268 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 7: that I know, people that I grew up with, could 269 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 7: still even consider voting for this autocrat. 270 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: As important as Trump's fascism is and is the lead 271 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: story every day, his closing up to dictators, his obsession 272 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: with Hitler, but this is what voters know right now 273 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: that he is killing us. I'm talking about us women. 274 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 6: He's killing us. 275 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: She's barely holding it together emotionally because of the damage 276 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 4: it's going to be done to women. 277 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: But then you go down there, you fly down there 278 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: in your. 279 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 4: Private plane, and you meet with him for whatever reason, 280 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: because well, I think it's because you got no ratings 281 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: and you're trying to figure out how to save. 282 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: Your careers that whole. 283 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: If you don't see the parallels with Nazi Germany, you're 284 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: either stupid or you're. 285 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: One of them. 286 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: Wow, that's pretty over the top. Oh my god, we're 287 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 4: heading down for lunch. We're gonna go talk to Hitler 288 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 4: because you know, our ratings are low. Speaking of that, 289 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: Glenn Greenwald put out yesterday lots of articles on how 290 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 4: MSNBC's audience has completely collapsed disappeared once Kamala lost. But 291 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 4: the full extent is shocking. They're primetime shows. And he's 292 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 4: got the list here of all the shows on CNN 293 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 4: and MSNBC, particularly on MSNBC, since that's what we're talking about. 294 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 4: Their primetime shows can't even get seventy five thousand people 295 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 4: watching in demo nationwide, and their weekend shows get less 296 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: than thirty A weekend show on MSNBC in the country 297 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 4: of three and forty million people gets less than thirty 298 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 4: thousand viewers. 299 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 6: There are fifty one hundred podcasts. Oh god, I have 300 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 6: much more reach than that, including our Yeah, I mean, 301 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 6: why does anybody talk about them at all? Now? I 302 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 6: know Morning Jose moving leading up to the election was 303 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 6: getting a million people. 304 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: That's still not much compared to like your big podcasts 305 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: and everything like that. 306 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: It's it's not enough to make you a household name. 307 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 6: No, definitely not DC is a high school. It's a 308 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 6: big high school, and they are the publishers of a 309 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 6: high school newspaper. 310 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: And if you're mister Beast or Jake Paul or neither 311 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: YouTube sensations, you'd be like, why does anybody even know 312 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 4: who they are? 313 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 6: I mean with the relatives right yourself to sleep at 314 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 6: night with their numbers, isn't that amazing? 315 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 4: So a lot of that is just the older generation 316 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: still in your mind thinking cable news is a big deal, 317 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 4: these newspapers are a big deal, the evening news a 318 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: big deal. They aren't, actually, And when we're all dead, 319 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 4: which won't be that long, the next generation is not 320 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 4: going to care about that stuff at all. 321 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 6: They don't now right right, absolutely outrageous. I have some 322 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 6: gender bending madness coming up. We could consider Tulsi Gabbard. Oh, 323 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 6: the most entertainment, entertaining, interesting, revealing statistic I've heard yet 324 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 6: about the election. All sorts of good. 325 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 4: Stuff to come, armstrong and getty. 326 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 8: President elect Donald Trump confirming once he takes office, he 327 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 8: will declare a national emergency and use the military to 328 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 8: help carry out his plans for mass deportations of undocumented immigrants. 329 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 8: Tom Homan saying criminals will be the first to go. 330 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 8: Homan says he's heading down tomar a Lago this week 331 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 8: to put the quote final touches on a plan. 332 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: So that's going to be one of the biggest stories 333 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 4: of the very early part of the Trump administration. I 334 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 4: just saw a Washington no The Hill. The Hill had 335 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 4: the headline Trump promised to be a dictator on day 336 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 4: one how Democrats can push back, so that seriously, I know, 337 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: I know, you realize that sort of talk got Trump elected. 338 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 4: But anyway, that is going to be the probably the 339 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: first biggest thing. He says that that's going to be 340 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 4: the priority on day one is to get the deportation 341 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 4: thing started, so that'll be your first hullabaloo. Then he 342 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 4: got the confirmation process for a bunch of different candidates. 343 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: We all know that one. 344 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 4: And then the whole tax thing hits, the Trump tax 345 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 4: cuts and how they're going to be handled. So the 346 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 4: first year is going to be jazzy man. 347 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 6: Well, and we're gonna hear hot and cold running fake 348 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 6: outrage for sure. I liked the clip we played earlier 349 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 6: Scott Jennings saying, you know, during Obama's time, he was 350 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 6: deporting people like crazy, Where was your outrage? 351 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 4: Then your phonies, right, which is worth bringing up In 352 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 4: a second. We'll get back to the deportations. Wanted to 353 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 4: hear from Tom Holman, who is going to be Trump's 354 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 4: immigration zar. Is that his official time ahead of the CBP? 355 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 4: What is he going to be? Yeah, he's a guy 356 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 4: yelling and talking about illegals. And this is particularly talking 357 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 4: some about the deportation and the Lake and Riley trial 358 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 4: that's going on. She was killed by an illegal. Here's 359 00:18:58,480 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 4: him yesterday. 360 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 5: And you should have been arrested by ICE in New 361 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 5: York City, but there's a sanctuary city. He should never 362 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 5: be in the country. Under President Trump, he wouldn't have 363 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 5: been here. He would have been waiting in Mexico on 364 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 5: the Remain in Mexico program. But here's what I want 365 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 5: for all those mayors and governors who said they're going 366 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 5: to push back in ICE to do this operation. I 367 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 5: want you to listen to that tape of the young 368 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 5: that young lady fighting for her life, fighting for her breath. 369 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 5: She did not want to die and she fought hard. 370 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 5: Listen to it. Just don't say, okay, another one died. No, 371 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 5: I want you listen to the struggles because that happens 372 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 5: across this country almost every day by an illegal alien. 373 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 5: So I want those sanctuary city people out to say 374 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 5: they're going to push back in ice. Listen to that 375 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 5: and tell me. I just said President Trump wants to 376 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 5: take public safety threats off the street. That's a priority 377 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 5: as elected mayor of elected governor. Are you telling me 378 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 5: that you don't want public safety threats out of your communities? 379 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 5: That is your never want responsibility to protect your community. 380 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 5: So smart enough and work with us. 381 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 6: I love what he said the other day too, He said, 382 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 6: all right, you're a city, you're a sanctuary city. You're 383 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 6: not going to work with us. We're going to send 384 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 6: enough ICE agents to get the job done. It's not 385 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 6: going to impede us for a minute. You're going to 386 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 6: make it order for us to do our jobs. We 387 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 6: are going to flood your city with ICE agents. 388 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 4: That lakeln Riley trial is going on, it's pretty damn gruesome. 389 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 4: So I haven't followed it. 390 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 6: It's heartbreaking. 391 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just awful. It's not surprising. 392 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: I guess that practically all headlines about it when they 393 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 4: covered it all don't mention the guy being illegal. Like 394 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 4: in the first paragraph or anything. That's why you've heard 395 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: her name. Lots of people get killed, unfortunately, across the country, 396 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 4: and they don't become a national story. Do you know 397 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 4: why this one's a national story? Because she was killed 398 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 4: by an illegal That's the whole reason it's a story. 399 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 6: And I heard I haven't independently verified this that the 400 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 6: federal government shipped the guy, having not booted him out 401 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 6: of the country, shipped the guy to Georgia because they're 402 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 6: redistributing various illegal immigrants all over the land, and that's 403 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 6: where he murdered poor miss Riley. 404 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 4: So we were talking deportations some last hour and the 405 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 4: idea that there are six hundred thousand convicted criminals currently 406 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: in the United States. That's the government's own numbers. That's 407 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 4: the number Martha Raddits used on ABC this week Sunday morning, 408 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 4: six hundred thousand criminals, and that's who the Trump administration 409 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: says they're going to start with in terms of deporting 410 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 4: And I was saying, how can you how can you 411 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: be against that? So our friend Tim Sander for Tim 412 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 4: the lawyer, weighed in, texting me on my personal phone 413 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 4: he is a don't want to put words in his mouth, 414 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 4: but he leans way more toward the libertarian open border's 415 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 4: view of the way the world should run, which would 416 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 4: be easier if we didn't have a welfare state. But 417 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 4: I won't get hung up on that. He texted this, 418 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 4: If there are six hundred thousand illegals who are criminals 419 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 4: and you want to deport them, you give them due 420 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 4: process of law. Right, so at least to hearing. Let's 421 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 4: say each hearing lasts only ten minutes, that's six million minutes. 422 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: That's eleven years. 423 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: Unless Trump succeeds at his next January sixth attempt to 424 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 4: stay in office illegally, his term won't last that long. 425 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 4: So no due process of law? What due process do 426 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 4: you get as an illegal? Or do you have to 427 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 4: have process to figure out if you're illegal? Well, I've 428 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 4: got a philosophical problem with that. I also have a 429 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 4: mathematical problem with that. 430 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 6: If you have one hundred courts nationwide doing these hearings, 431 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 6: you've cut that timetable by one to one one hundredth 432 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 6: of that or maybe five hundred chords, right, sure? Yeah? 433 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 6: Or set up a quote unquote court in every storefront 434 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 6: in Mrillo. I don't know. And as far as a 435 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 6: due process is concerned. I'm not an expert on immigration law. 436 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 6: I would certainly say, yeah, it's got to go through 437 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 6: that process, whatever that is. 438 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 4: We on the other hand, you don't deserve due process 439 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 4: if you're here illegally, do you. But so the due 440 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: process comes in trying to figure out if you're illegal 441 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 4: or not, so you don't snatch citizens or people who 442 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 4: have the proper documentation and send them out. 443 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: Is that the whole thing? 444 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 6: Well, well, see that's the problem. We've gotten into a 445 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 6: weird space. And if I was an actual legal expert 446 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 6: on this, I'd be able to elation more informative screed 447 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 6: that I'm about to. But we have reached a point 448 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 6: where merely being in the country illegally is not deemed 449 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 6: reason to deport, right, And this has been the problem 450 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 6: with illegal imitate a looking class. And we've been talking 451 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 6: about this for thirty years, and it's always the same thing. 452 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 6: You allow so much illegal immigration that it gets into 453 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 6: the fabric work of everything, and then you've got all 454 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 6: this pushback about why, well, who's gonna pick the tomatoes? Well, 455 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 6: we wouldn't have gotten so off track with the way 456 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 6: our system of the labor works. 457 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: If we hadnt allowed so many illegal immigrants. And then 458 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: you know, well, we got to give them driver's licensees, 459 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: because how they're supposed to get to work if they're 460 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 4: already here working, So tell them they can't drives. 461 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 2: Dumb. He just keep back dooring all these things. 462 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 6: And they're getting free education and healthcare and the taxpayer 463 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 6: funded not free. And by the way, they get scholarships 464 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 6: to our universities, and now you're gonna boot them out. 465 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 6: That's that's bizarre. Well, you know, given the reality of 466 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 6: the Blue States yet is kind of bizarre honestly, but 467 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 6: you see what I mean, It's just it's. 468 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 4: So the argument is always you let them all in 469 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 4: and then you come up with all the reasons that 470 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 4: you can't do anything about it. Now, well, they had 471 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 4: a kid here, so the kid's a citizens. What are 472 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 4: you going to do but the kid out with the 473 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 4: and make the parents gowords a kid going by himself, 474 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 4: and a kid has to go to school, it's a law. 475 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 4: And they don't speak English, so we got to have 476 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 4: a teacher that speaks the several languages to make sure 477 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: that it just gets more and more complicated all the time. 478 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, at a certain point, and you know, corporations can 479 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 6: certainly tell you this, those that have been you know, 480 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 6: picked up by the scruff of their dysfunctional neck and 481 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 6: shaken and reformed and become successful again by some new 482 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 6: CEO or whatever. You have to return to first principles. 483 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 6: And then when somebody says, yeah, but yeah, but yeah, 484 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 6: but no, no, no, there's no compromising on your first principle. 485 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 6: And then if you have to knot a bunch of 486 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 6: things you've nodded up through your terrible policies through the years, Yeah, 487 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 6: that's going to take some time and effort, but don't 488 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 6: hit me with up yeah but yeah, but yeah. But 489 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 6: when I say, if you're not here legally, you gotta. 490 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 4: Go, well, if I was gonna argue it on the 491 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 4: other side, I would say, good job on us. On 492 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 4: the we want as many illegals as possible, which again 493 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 4: we're all guessing as to why that is. Some of 494 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: it is big labor needs the workers, so they're cool 495 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 4: with it. And then Democrats wrongly assumed whether they get 496 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 4: enough of people into this country from other countries, they'd 497 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 4: all be Democrats for life. 498 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: But that has turned out to absolutely not be true. 499 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 4: So I'm surprised the Democratic Party hasn't turned somewhat on 500 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 4: the immigration thing since a majority of Hispanic men voted for. 501 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: Trump this time around. 502 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: But anyway, on the side of wanting it to happen, yeah, 503 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: it works pretty well once you get people here. It's 504 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 4: just so damn difficult to boot them out without getting 505 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 4: into the due process problem or the who's going to 506 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 4: do the labor or separating families or all these other 507 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 4: knots that you called them. That get no when you 508 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 4: allow this in the first place. 509 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I would say also to folks expressing what 510 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 6: Tim expressed, which is absolutely a valid point of view. 511 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 6: I mean, clearly, there's got to be too pressed. You 512 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 6: can't just run around grabbing anybody who looks somewhat brown 513 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 6: and heaving them into Warez City. Okay, I get that. 514 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 6: On the other hand, the idea that I don't know, 515 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 6: we might go a little too far in not letting 516 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 6: illegal immigrants stay, I mean, we're like a thousand miles 517 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 6: from that. 518 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 4: Well, right, But the question always to me is so then. 519 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: What so I guess there's nothing you can do? I 520 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: mean is that it guess. 521 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 6: There's nothing to do. 522 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 4: I guess we let in record number, week after week, 523 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 4: month af from a year after year of a legal 524 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 4: wife the law and there's just nothing you can do 525 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 4: at this point because it violate this or that or 526 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 4: be unfair here or there. 527 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 2: And so I guess everybody just gets to say, is 528 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: that the answer? Because that sounds like what the answer is? 529 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 6: It's sure something like that. Yeah, yeah, on a completely 530 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 6: different topic unless you have more on that. I don't. Well, 531 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 6: And again, we've been at it for thirty years, and 532 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 6: god will we'll be at it for thirty more. Actually, 533 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 6: if I'm doing this in thirty years, god strike me down. 534 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: Jeez, you'd be in your you'd be almost ninety. 535 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, yeah, who'd want to hear that? I wouldn't 536 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 6: want to hear that. Anyway, it's not going to happen. 537 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 6: The fabulous Andy Know who tracks the far left violence 538 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 6: of Antifa and folks like that. He's based out of Portland. 539 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 6: He and some other Internet sleuths have come across this 540 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 6: Secret Service agent who is a hardcore Antifa supporter, way lefty, 541 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 6: pro lefty violence, absolute nut job. And the Secret Service 542 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 6: hasn't figured this out or noticed it or whatever or 543 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 6: what have you. But the the online sleuths have they've 544 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 6: named the guy. They've got pictures of the guy. Yeah, 545 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 6: all it takes is, you know, an hour or two's 546 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 6: worth of effort, and they've found, what's the specifics of it. 547 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 6: They found his various uh social media accounts even like 548 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 6: music accounts and whatever, using the same screen name, with 549 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 6: the same profile, a lot of the same verbiage with 550 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 6: his name and his face, the same screen name. He 551 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 6: posts under these to these Antifa groups talking about how 552 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 6: he's been in law enforcement, but he hates it, and 553 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 6: he hates all his colleagues, and he really wants to, 554 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 6: you know, strike a blow for you know, your your 555 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 6: radical leftists and all. Again. Internet sleuths could figure this 556 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 6: out and the two shakes of a lamb's tail, but 557 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 6: it was beyond the abilities of the Secret Service to 558 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 6: rat to root this guy out. It's just unbelievable. 559 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 4: I've got three quick celebrity stories before we wrap up 560 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 4: this segment. One, The Country Music Awards are tomorrow night. 561 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 4: You know what's interesting about that, it's the most watched 562 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 4: awards show in America. Now Oscar's, Grammy's whatever. Country Music 563 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 4: Awards are the biggest one. Peyton Manning one of the hosts. 564 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 4: He's very funny and very popular. Other celebrity story, Rod 565 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 4: Stewart has just announced his one last time tour. He's 566 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 4: going to do a farewell tour, and I'm sure those 567 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 4: will be big tickets unless there's another one, unless he 568 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 4: does it like four more times. 569 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 6: But farewell tour is not a legally binding term. It's 570 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 6: like organic apparently true means whatever you want it to mean. 571 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 4: And then this one, here's my favorite celebrity story of 572 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 4: the day. Full team coverage on the fact that Betty 573 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 4: White is going to get a new Forever stamp. She 574 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 4: will be on the Forever stamp, the Betty White stamp. 575 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 4: There you go, super fantastic. Frank, do you think it's 576 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 4: who haven't ever mailed anything in the last two years? 577 00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 6: Nobody cares but the Country Music Awards the CMAS that 578 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 6: what you said is the fact that that's the biggest, 579 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 6: most watched is interesting to me. On the other hand, 580 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 6: and I know a lot of folks agree. If it 581 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 6: was the Joe Getty Society gives Joe Getty Awards for 582 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 6: being Joe Getty, I wouldn't watch that show. 583 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 4: I like to performance as I'll probably watch I want 584 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 4: to see Shabboozi singing a bar song. And what's his name? 585 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 4: The big fat guy, Jolly Roll is going to do 586 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 4: a bunch of stuff. There are a lot of big 587 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 4: fat guys, Jack, which one do you mean? We've got 588 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 4: more coming up. Text line four one five two nine 589 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 4: five KFTC. 590 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 9: Pennsylvania Governor Jos Shapiro urging counties to respect the state 591 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 9: Supreme Court's decision and stop counting disputed ballots, saying the 592 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 9: following quote. Any insinuation that our laws can be ignored 593 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 9: or do not matter is irresponsible and does damage to 594 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 9: faith in our electoral process. The rule of all matter 595 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 9: is in this Commonwealth, and as I have always said, 596 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 9: it is critical for counties and officials in both parties 597 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 9: to respect it with both their rhetoric and their actions. 598 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 4: Pennsylvania gets a kick out of calling themselves a commonwealth 599 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 4: for whatever reason. 600 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 6: But what's going on there the recount of the Senate election, 601 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 6: which was very, very close. There were a bunch of 602 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 6: precincts where Democrats were in defiance of a judge's order 603 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 6: counting undated or unsigned ballots, and the Supreme Court came 604 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 6: and said, y'all got to stop, and you got to 605 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 6: stop now. Now, you said you saw a headline that 606 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 6: implied that it was going both ways. I haven't come 607 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 6: across that. Well. 608 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 4: I think Josh Shapiro said that yesterday because the governor 609 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 4: had not made a statement about it, and then he 610 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 4: made a statement yesterday the county's counting illegally both directions. 611 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: Something or other. Maybe he just didn't recover. I don't know. 612 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 6: I don't know, but I suspect rather strongly. It's like 613 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 6: when Harvard comes out and says, yeah, we've had anti semitism, 614 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 6: an anti Muslim sentiment. Two. Yeah, except it's been one 615 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 6: hundred and one. You lie in liars. Anyway, we'll look 616 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 6: into that and bring it to you. I've got a 617 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 6: couple of stories here, briefly that have to do with 618 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 6: putting people in groups. I think the way to bring 619 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 6: people together is to divide them up into groups. So 620 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 6: that's what we're going to do. First of all, skyrocketing 621 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 6: property values are dividing Americans into three broad camps. Those 622 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 6: that are now locked out of home ownership that'd be me, 623 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 6: those that are effectively stuck in their current homes, and 624 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 6: a lucky minority who have the flexibility to cash out 625 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 6: at a historic Hi, although you got to live somewhere. 626 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 4: Right, and rent is so high you almost have to 627 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 4: move to make it work. You almost have to move 628 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 4: someplace cheaper or really really downsize. 629 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 6: Right, yeah, Or if you've got a ton of equity 630 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 6: so you bank that, then you pay whatever you want 631 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 6: and rent, I guess. But anyway, a. 632 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: Couple of his death sane. At least we're around here. 633 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 6: I mean, the rent, it's too damn Thank you sir. 634 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 6: It's a good point. All of it has changed. Who 635 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 6: walks through real estate eight agents doors. The share of 636 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 6: sales to first time buyers has dropped to a record 637 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 6: low twenty four percent. They don't say what it has 638 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 6: been historically, so that doesn't help me much anyway. And 639 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 6: first time buyers do show up have aged almost a decade. Traditionally, 640 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 6: Americans got a foothold on the property ladder during their 641 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 6: late twenties. Today, the median age of first time buyers 642 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 6: is thirty eight. Wow. 643 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: Wow. 644 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 6: By the time Americans can't afford a home now, they've 645 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 6: missed out on ten years of wealth creation that older 646 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 6: generations enjoyed. I thought that was really interesting. 647 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 4: If that's going to continue to be true. I mean, 648 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 4: houses are so expensive. Are they going to continue to 649 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 4: go up over the next ten years the way they 650 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 4: have historically? 651 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: Or not? 652 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 6: She'ez nobody knows, unknodding the whole crazy crazy low rates 653 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 6: followed by much more historically normal rates. How does that go? 654 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 6: How does that knot? Nobody knows for sure, And I 655 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 6: could go. We don't have much time. I really want 656 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 6: to talk about this, but I refuse to rush through it. 657 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 6: I refuse. 658 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: It's tremendous discipline you're showing. 659 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I got nothing to look forward 660 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 4: to now that the Tyson Paul fight is over. 661 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 2: I needs something on my calendar to look for. 662 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 6: You need counseling and to be slapped hard, which is 663 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 6: an odd combo. Here at Joe's brutal House of Counseling, 664 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 6: we both validate your feelings and then punch you in 665 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 6: the stomach for having them. Barbaric. I hear that you're 666 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 6: feeling disappointed. I hear you say you have nothing to 667 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 6: look forward to. Bamn right in the stomach. 668 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 2: It was fun. 669 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 4: Happened to that? Look forward to it? Me and the 670 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 4: kids on a Friday night to get around watch and 671 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 4: get some food. 672 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 2: Whatever. That's fun. 673 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 6: Well, maybe Netflix will come up with another embarrassing and humiliating, 674 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 6: a moral spectacle, thing and hard to watch. Maybe Christians 675 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,479 Speaker 6: being eaten by lions. I wish we could have gotten 676 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 6: to this. An editorial in The New York Times written 677 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 6: by a sixteen year old unless year a fourteen year old. 678 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 6: Don't waste your time hour four. If you don't get it, 679 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 6: grab it via podcast. Subscribe to Armstrong and Getty on 680 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 6: demand Armstrong and Getty