WEBVTT - The Real Housewives of Nazareth 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:05.280 We never had a Christmas tree when I was growing 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:08.240 up because we were like too Jewish. But now what 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:12.840 do you have in your home? I have not a 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.840 Christmas tree. It does it set ablaze and start speaking 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:21.520 with the voice of Jesus? It not, No, but it 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:25.479 does have Tonica manoras and it has a fluid white 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:35.720 and stilver gross. Yes, friend, you are an innkeeper? Okay? Yea. 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:38.519 The year is four or five BC. Wait am I 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:40.720 a man in this scenario? We're a woman? I said 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:42.919 you were an innkeeper? Which, ok but what is the 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:47.120 gender of the innkeeper? What do you think male? Because 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.639 I don't think women were allowed to at in BC? 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.240 Yeah maybe in BC women were not allowed to be Okay, 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:56.880 so I'm a male innkeeper. You are a You are 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:01.480 a woman who has traversed the system. Okay, You're a boss. 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.120 You are you are the primordial girl boss in the 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:07.680 year four or five BC. Okay, okay, are you leaving 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.640 a good review at the end? I own? I mean, 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:13.520 how did you do? I mean? That's what I'm this 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.000 is what I'm saying is that when this couple shows 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:16.920 up at your door and you basically told them that 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.440 there's like no room, that does I would leave a 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.080 one star review. That does sound like something I would do. 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.280 I think that they were very entitled. Who who are 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.280 we talking about? Mary and Joseph? Okay, so this isn't 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.600 just a thought exercise. You are trying to set up 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:36.920 the story of Christmas. Yes, here on this podcast. You 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:38.920 come on and you say, have you ever heard of Twilight? 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.000 Have you heard of Taylor Swift? And I come on 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:42.720 this podcast and I say, have you ever heard of 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:46.839 the Birth of Jesus Christ? Rose? Have you? I've heard 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.120 of it? Mary? Did you know? There is so much 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:53.080 about Christmas that I don't understand as a very reformed 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.120 Jewish girl who grew up in book raton. So I'm 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.000 very excited that today we are going to get into 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:02.560 a discussion about religious Christmas and secular Christmas. So I 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:06.040 guess like today we're fighting a battle in the war 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.520 on Christmas. Yea, Well, what side are you on? The 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.720 secular one? Yeah? This is like a virgin where we 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.280 give yesterday's pop culture. Well, I guess today we're giving 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:22.360 BCS culture a d S takes. I'm I'm Rose dam 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:26.600 you and I'm Fran Toronto. So stick around. We're going 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.919 to get into the birth of Jesus later, but right now, 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.160 we're going to talk about the birth of a bunch 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:38.200 of tweets this week. We have a lot of things 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:43.280 to celebrate and be joyful about, as maybe the angels 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:47.079 that came to Jesus would say, among them, the end 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:52.640 of Succession, much to your joy and tribulation. Girl. I 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:57.639 just I'm happy that people like succession, I guess, but 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.079 I'm so much happier that it's over so people will 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.880 stop tweeting about it. And I understand that this is 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.240 probably something a lot of people feel about things that 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.000 we're interested in that we talk about when they reach 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:13.239 like critical mass. But I just am not interested in succession, 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.560 and the way that people talk about it online has 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.840 been super annoying for me. So I'm just really happy 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.119 it's over and I don't have to see tweets about 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:25.160 it anymore. But I do still have to keep clicking 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:30.120 not interested on Succession TikTok's because I need the algorithm 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.359 to understand that I don't watch it. You know, as 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:38.720 a succession watcher, even I can empathize and honestly completely 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.120 empower you to hate on succession. Anybody to hate on 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.440 Succession because there are a lot of parts of the 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.160 shows that are of like middling quality and success, and 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.520 it's like people treat it like it's like the second 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.040 coming of like The Departed, or like of the best 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.520 TV show ever created, and well, let's not give it 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:59.480 more air time than it already has. Uh. Something on 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.760 h Max that I am more excited for than Succession 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:07.440 is the Harry Potter reunion that's happening on January one. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:11.520 Have you seen the trailer for this return to Hogwarts? No? 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.840 And I I love and support you, but I won't. 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.080 I won't be watching the trailer. I will be watching. 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.920 We will be watching it together on New Year's Day 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.919 in our rental house of Joshua Tree. I hope you 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.800 know that. I don't know about that. I don't know. Yeah, 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:29.480 we will take a break from our Lord of the 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:34.160 Rings marathon to watch return to Hogwarts. We'll see about that. Okay, 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.479 um are you? Are you like and do you consider 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:42.240 yourself an a girl? I'm not on film Twitter per se, 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.680 so I'm not I'm not going to maybe, um know 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.800 the like all of the things about like what makes 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.680 A twenty four a superior production company? However, I do 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.360 like a lot of the things that come out of it. 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.359 I think a fun tidbit about in general is that 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.280 they make a ba billion movies a year, but they 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:03.360 only mark get like of their films, and a lot 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.200 of people don't know about, like all the flop movies 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.160 that they produced that no one has ever heard of. However, 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.120 all of the amazing movies that they do I always 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.599 adore well, such as the trailer that just came out 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.520 with Um Michelle Yah, which I will be in the 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.800 theater first day when I see. I'm very excited for that. 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.839 I'm also super excited for The Northman. The trailer for 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.880 that just came out. It's the new Robert Eggers movie. 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.479 He did The Lighthouse and the Witch or the Bitch 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:35.920 depending on the depending on the stylization of it. And 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:41.279 it's like a Viking movie starring lots of hot blonde people. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:46.240 So Alexander's Scars Garden, Nicole Kidman, Anya Taylor Joy and 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.760 it like, weirdly enough, kind of seems like a prequel 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:54.960 for True Blood, because did you did you watch True Blood? Uh? No, 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.880 I didn't. You should definitely go back and watch it. 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.880 But so Alexander Scars Guard who played Eric that like 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.680 bad boy vampire. His whole back st are on the 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.880 show is that he was a viking, and like there's 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.760 one season where he's on this quest for vengeance, and 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.360 this movie is also about a viking who's on a 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.839 quest for vengeance. So maybe this is the Eric Northman 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.640 origin story we've been waiting for. Um. But Nicole is 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:26.160 wearing another amazing yet incredibly clocky wig. But also Bjork 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.719 is in this movie. I think, yeah, I think she's 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:33.800 playing some kind of soothsayer, which which tracks that's crazy. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.080 I did not. I need, I need to watch this trailer. Yeah, 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.520 I'm I'm very excited. You know, we are kind of 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:43.680 at critical mass of things being released right now. It's 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.320 like peak movie release season, peak TV season. Have you 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:51.240 heard of this Showtime show, Yellow Jackets. You texted me 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.680 about it. I saw some tweets about it. I heard 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:57.320 that it's making Showtime gay again. What's the gift? So 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:02.720 it's a show about a high school girls soccer team, um, 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:04.800 who is on their way to a tournament and they're 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:09.760 plane crashes and like, in trying to survive in the wilderness, 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.960 they become this sort of lord of the flies, like 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:18.840 cannibalistic scenario UM and then so half of the show 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.120 takes place during that time period, and then half of 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:27.280 the show follows the survivors UM twenty five years later, 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:32.640 who are played by Melanie Lynsky, who's like an icon. 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.640 She's been in so many movies over the years, like 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:36.640 she was in Kyote Ugly As she Wasn't ever after 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:42.600 Christina Ricci, Juliette Lewis, and Tawny Cypriss. You know, so 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:46.000 you know that they survived, but like not really who 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:50.880 else And there's like mysterious letters about people knowing what happened. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:55.360 And it's just really good. It is gay, it's it's 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.760 funny and dramatic. I really think you should watch it. 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.480 I think you'd love I can't wait to figure out 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:06.000 how I'm going to steal someone else's Showtime access. Well, 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.760 I did get a free trial to show Time, so 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.680 you can use my log in. Okay, thank you, because 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.920 I've definitely already used my free trial of Showtime to 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.960 watch I think the L word. I still need to 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:20.800 do an L word watch. I guess we'll have to 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:22.600 do an episode on it at some point because I've 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:26.240 never seen it. It's definitely on the list. So Rose, 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.880 I don't know about you, but I personally I'm just 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.680 like always, always, you know, sitting around and waiting for 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:36.320 assists heterosexual man to tell me how to feel about representation. 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.320 How about you. Yeah, it's my favorite thing to to 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:43.199 talk about truly, because you know, like it's it's more 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:47.360 something you receive exactly exactly. So Aaron Sorkin, I don't 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.600 know if you've read um, was on the Sunday Times 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:53.800 defending his decision to cast have Your Bard m a 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:58.040 Spaniard into the role of the Cuban Desi Arnaz, and 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:02.760 he somehow transitioned into talking about straight actors and gay 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.839 roles and how I love when this conversation comes up. 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.280 I think once a quarter at least. Yeah, it's it's 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.040 it's the best. He He basically argues that, like, you 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.559 can't act straight or gay, and he says, so this 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.680 notion that only gay actors should play gay characters, that 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.760 only a Cuban actor should play Desi, Honestly, it's the 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.360 mother of all empty gestures and a bad idea. Well 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.280 you know what else was a bad idea The television 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:33.800 show The news Room, which is the worst the worst 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.959 thing I've ever watched. And I used to go over 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.280 to a friend's house to watch True Blood and we 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.640 started watching Newsroom after when it started, and like three 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.680 episodes in, we were watching Newsroom and I stood up 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.240 and said to everyone, I can't do this anymore. This 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:52.319 show is bad and I will not watch another moment 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.840 of it. And I walked out, and from then on, 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.440 every night, as soon as True Blood ended, I was 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.280 out of there. I I kind of want to get 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.680 into the weeds. He y're I I fucking hate that 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.520 I have to explain this, But the truth is, like 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:08.440 most people don't understand that there's a difference between someone 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.839 who speaks Spanish and someone who is Latino. And like 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:16.080 it must be said that Javier Bardem is white. He's 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:20.040 he's not Latin. He's Hispanic, yes, but like he was 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.200 only cast into this role because he's an amazing actor 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.079 and because he has an accent. But an accent does 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.720 not lettin you that make and does r Nez was 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:33.040 also white, Like he's like a white Tino. Yeah, but 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:36.920 more importantly, he existed during a time where he was 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:40.280 like most certainly marginalized. Like people still consider Lucy and 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:44.000 Ricky like the first interracial couple on TV, despite the 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.920 fact that being Latin is an ethnicity not a race, 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:51.280 and Lucy and does he are technically both white? Um So, like, 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.600 in my like humble opinion, like I don't give a 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:57.480 ship about like a white man playing like a different 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:01.439 kind of white. However, given the background of who does 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.520 he was at the time and how that still was 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:07.160 groundbreaking as a public figure, the role still should have 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:11.199 gone to a Latin actor, you know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely, 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.680 And like with the queer people and queer roles of 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.640 it all, like the reason we cast queer and trans 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.600 characters and queer and trans roles is because like we're 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.760 making up for a century of like whitewashing and straight washing, 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.040 and like how we are just always giving jobs to 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.880 people that are not historically marginalized the classes were like 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.320 totally signing up to represent quote unquote Yeah, I think 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.920 that's that's one of the parts he's missing in all 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:40.720 this is like it's not about acting a role, it's 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.840 about like a authenticity and be the fact that you know, 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.560 queer people and other marginalized folks don't have the same 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:53.040 opportunities as white cys hetero people, and like that is 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:57.880 the reckoning we're trying to have. Speaking of authentic storytelling, 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.600 did you did you watch episode you of and just 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:07.800 like that, I did. And girl, let's let's talk about 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.480 the most shocking revelation of this episode, which is that 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:15.920 it was revealed that Big did get vaccinated. It was 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.200 there's a moment where Carrie is fumbling through his stuff 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.800 and through his wall and she pulls out Big vaccination card. Okay, 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:28.800 well that's interesting considering how like COVID like doesn't exist 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.800 in and just like that, like it's just over. There's 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:35.920 no doubt it just ended. I guess, like spoiler alert 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.440 for anybody who hasn't watched the episode, were no spoiler 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.640 alerts like yeah, we don't take your life into your 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:45.079 hands listening to this podcast not in my house. Um, yeah, 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.920 there's this whole like hubub about the fact that Big 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.719 gave a postumus one million dollar donation to his ex 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.480 wife Natasha. But honestly, I thought it was going to 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.040 be like Big gives like a one million dollar donation 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.559 to like the RNC, or he definitely he definitely does that. 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.840 My mom told me she has a theory that she 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.800 thinks it's true that Big gave that money to Natasha 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.720 because either one or both of her sons are his children. 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.000 And I was like and I was like, no, Mom, 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.079 it's not That's not what that's about. Like this story 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:17.640 is a closed loop about like Carry processing her grief. 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.599 And actually, you know, I didn't like most of the episode, 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:26.200 but that storyline was my favorite part. And it was 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.560 the part of the show that felt the most like 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:32.079 Sex in the City. You know, Carry having to face 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.680 the consequences of her bad decisions. That was the whole 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:39.760 thing with her and Big and Natasha. Like I just 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:43.680 loved the reminder that Carry is fundamentally a bad person 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.720 and sort of the like slapstick Hi jinks of going 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.439 to Natasha's office and her seeing them in the window 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.840 and then like trying to get into the bathroom and 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.720 spelling the coffee, Like that felt very much like a 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.360 Sex and the City episode to me. But know what 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.000 didn't feel like a Sex in the City episode was 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:08.280 Shade As Is Comedy special slash slash ted talk about 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:15.480 gender um I like, who, first of all the people 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:22.560 snapping in the audience was so triggering to me personally, 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.480 so disingenuous. It's again like we said this last, but 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.040 it's just like so many things where it's like these 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:33.480 are all cartoons of what people think queer and trans 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:37.240 culture is, and they're literally doing a set set and 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:41.080 in quotation marks because I didn't think it was very funny. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.880 Also no offense, but like queer and trans people aren't 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.320 going to stand up, like it's not not like a 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.280 stand up in mass Like if this were realistic, the 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.120 audience of Shaddea's stand up show would be probably mostly 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.920 heterosexuals and like white people. And that's why the material, 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.760 both in world and out of world feels oriented to 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.000 straight people because queer people queer people don't need to 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:07.280 receive that. And it's like so much telling rather than showing, 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:11.080 which is like really uninteresting and and just like bad 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:16.320 TV making writing one oh one. Truly, I will say 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:20.200 I'm not defending that moment, but I was pretty enraptured 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:25.800 by what is Shay and Miranda's first sensual moment. I 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:30.200 am somehow here for it, even though I hate, hate, 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.360 hate Shay as a character. I also think that what's 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:38.200 happening with Charlotte's trans kid is something that I think 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.800 we'll have a lot of cringe to it. But also like, 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:45.920 I think that her reaction to her kid is pretty human, 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.880 and I think it's also hilarious that she immediately goes 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:52.400 to like the cis gay guy invalidate her trans child's 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:56.400 identity immediately. It's the most transpic response, which is actually realistic. 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.440 I do hope that what's happening with Miranda and Shay 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:04.160 is like part of why Miranda has been set up 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.600 so horribly thus far in the series. I did see 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:11.000 something on TikTok where someone was doing an analysis of this, 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.400 and like, basically what they were saying is, like Miranda 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.640 is a very good example of this like breed of 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:21.600 white women who thought of themselves as really progressive in 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.800 the nineties and are now having to reckon with the 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:29.120 fact that they actually are not that progressive um, and 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.520 like that is being cracked open for them. And so 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:36.720 I hope that in this romance with Cha, like Miranda 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.440 kind of finds herself again in a way that is 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:45.000 not like obnoxious and hard to watch because I can't 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.200 I can't see another stand up set. I can't do it. Oh, 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:54.160 absolutely not. Obviously, Also, as we talk about culture and 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:58.640 feminism and the kind of thinkers that created how we 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.440 kind of view shows like Sex in the City. Bell 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:07.360 Hooks did die this last week. Um, an amazing feminist writer, philosopher, 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:12.480 thinker um who has like created leaps and bounds of 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.280 like thought and work around like what it means to love, 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.359 what it means to be queer, what it means to 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.840 be fem to be a woman. UM. And I think 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:25.920 that you know, whatever thoughts you have on bell Hooks Hooks, Um, 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:30.040 you cannot deny that she had an invaluable contribution to 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:35.000 how we talk about like love and beauty and community today. UM. 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:39.360 And how it's all like an interactive process. UM. So yeah, 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:44.480 I think that uh, as a little gabie who used 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.520 to take classes at the Kidsie Institute, was like so 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:52.760 thirsty for sorry sorry, I I that insufferable sentence needed 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:54.840 to be said in the context of this, like bell 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.080 Hooks was one of the first like little packets that 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.199 was like handed to me in a class. Um. And 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.960 I'm really grateful for her work and for others like her. 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.760 If virgins have never read Bell Hooks have never engaged 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.720 with her work, All about Love to me is the 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.760 best book to start with. I think it's a really 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:19.720 great introduction to the rest of her ethos. And yeah, 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.840 y'all really deserve to read some Bellhooks this weekend, the 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:45.320 like a virgin book club weekends. Yes, I don't. I mean, 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.600 do you think you could like fudge your way through 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:55.200 it the Nativity story? We can do it together. Okay. So, um, 0:18:55.240 --> 0:19:00.960 there's this person Mary. I don't want to assume their gender. Okay, 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:12.800 the PC police are in here, and um they are pregnant. Yeah, Um, 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:17.439 she is pregnant. Okay, she's pregnant Mary assis woman. Okay, 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:24.479 allegedly that's what That's what Big Christianity wants us to think. Mary, Joseph, Jesus, 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:29.520 they were all white and sis for sure. Jesus was 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:37.920 sis assists white man. Okay, So Mary's pregnant, but she 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:41.800 didn't have sex with anyone? She yes, she said she 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.440 was a virgin, but but like pregnant, but like did 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:49.919 she lie? I mean, listen, believe women. But also sounds fishy. 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:54.159 It sounds it sounds fishy. It's already you know. She 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.439 said up what I never understood was was married. Because 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:01.920 she's married. Mary's married to a man. I actually don't 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:04.440 remember if they were married married or if they were 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:09.159 like betrothed and like because because like have they Is 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:13.600 she fully a virgin or was this just this was 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.600 this was a virgin birth? So in the biblical retelling, 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:21.359 it's like this hysterical pregnancy and like she's basically been 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:25.040 birthed by God and the Holy She's basically been impregnated 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:29.359 by God and the Holy Spirit and Angel. Come. How 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:33.040 did that work? Did she consent? I fucking hope so? 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:34.879 But it did not make it seem that way in 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:40.480 the Bible story, That's what I'm saying. So how did this? Um, 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.119 she didn't cant because she was surprised. She was like, 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.120 oh my god, I'm pregnant. Yeah, so like how did 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:50.040 the god sex happened? Yeah? I don't know that that 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.040 that part of the story is a little murky. Was 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:55.199 it in a dream? Was it? Like it sounds like 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.680 Mary was actually like in her real house. I was back. 0:20:57.800 --> 0:20:59.679 She was actually just trying to stir the pot and 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.959 she like, listen, I'm I'm pregnant, but I'm a virgin, 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:05.720 and you know the room gas. I mean, what if 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:10.240 I came into the studio today and told you fran 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:13.960 I'm pregnant, but I've never had sex. Well you would 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:19.879 be surprised a because I don't have a womb. So okay, 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:24.439 so yeah, maybe this is like the the version of 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.040 the Virgin Mary story. I walk into the studio and 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:30.879 I say, for him, I have been feeling really weird, 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:34.439 and I like, I was having these symptoms. I'm the 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:36.639 only thing, you know. I was doing that kind of 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:40.760 movie thing where you google all your symptoms and it 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:42.959 was like, well, are you pregnant? And I was like, 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.240 of course I'm not pregnant. I was I'm I'm a 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:50.000 mad you know. Um. But just as a laugh, a 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:54.520 little funny chuckle, I took a pregnancy test and it 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:57.919 says I'm pregnant. Oh what do you? What do you do? 0:21:58.040 --> 0:21:59.680 What do you say if I tell you that? Well, 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:02.760 I'm I guess the first question I'm going to ask 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:04.760 is can I take you on a pilgrimage to to 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:08.840 Bethlehem on a donkey? That's the first thing you're asking 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:12.680 this in that situation, this scenario, that is my primary concern. 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:15.600 I also wonder what if if this happens, what our 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:19.240 producer Phoebe is doing, well, she would be one of 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.919 the one of the wise men, one of these. So 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:24.080 Phoebe is one of the wise Are you bringing? What? 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.320 What gift are you bringing? Gold? Frankinsense, murder? What you 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:31.520 got is bringing? Oh yeah, let's be clear about this. 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:34.359 If this does happen and I have a you know, 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:39.320 like magical trans pregnancy, I'm not keeping the baby, do 0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:42.160 you know? Not? Not not right now, not until we're 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:45.880 doing keep it numbers. But what what if a chorus 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:48.160 of angels come to you in a dream and they 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:51.360 say that your child is going to be the Messiah? 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:55.280 That sounds like so much work. Honestly, like I would 0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:58.240 rather they say, Oh, he's going to be a doctor, 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:03.320 he's gonna she's gonna be a fashion designer. They're gonna 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:08.199 be um you know, uh sound cloud rapper. Right. You know, 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:10.040 I don't want I don't want to have to deal 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:13.439 with being the mother of the Messiah. It's a lot 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:17.280 like that's pulling a lot of focus from me. Yeah, 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:20.479 it is. It is that I would become immediately. That's 0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:22.399 like one of the main reasons I don't think I 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:25.280 could ever have kids, as I would be immediately jealous 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:30.080 of the baby. Okay, So, so fran Um in the Okay, 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.800 I want to hear more about about the you know, 0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:38.679 the Nativity. So Mary's pregnant. Mary's pregnant may may have 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:42.760 been sexually assaulted by God. Yeah may, It's entirely possible. 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.520 She also maybe is just trying to cover up a 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.639 part of her story that you know, she doesn't lie 0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:50.840 out there yet, and everyone's like not respecting her boundaries 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:57.240 on this issue. Um. They follow a star, okay, to Bethlehem. 0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:00.600 A star, Yeah, like a literal star with the star. 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.320 It's like the North Star, the star of Bethlehem, or 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:06.000 like there's a star over the Holy city and you 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.240 follow it to get there or something like that. I 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:12.520 don't understand how that works. It's the I can barely 0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:16.240 follow Google Maps. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like, 0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:19.320 how did they get this pregnant? She was probably like 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:23.200 very very young, Like I can. I can without directions 0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:27.400 get to maybe three places in Los Angeles, which one 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.919 one of which is the drive through Starbucks I go 0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:32.800