Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from I Heart Radio,
Speaker 1: your weekly source for the nation's best fantasy speculation and advice.
Speaker 1: Now along with the guys from fanball dot Com. Here's
Speaker 1: the host for Fantasy Football Weekly, Paul. Welcome to another
Speaker 1: edition of Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Charchi and
Speaker 1: my co host is Scott fish High. Scott, Hello, they're
Speaker 1: good to talk to you again. I now, one of
Speaker 1: the things that you and I have in common that
Speaker 1: a lot of casual listeners for Fantasootball Weekly won't know
Speaker 1: is that you and I love unique ways to play
Speaker 1: fantasy football variations and you know, crazy concepts. I have
Speaker 1: thrown dozens of weird ways to play at you, and
Speaker 1: you know, gotten feedback, and um, you're one of the
Speaker 1: few people that is is not like will you just
Speaker 1: shut up about your stupil league? I d um, and
Speaker 1: I love that about you. Is that is that we
Speaker 1: share a passion for unique ways to play. One of
Speaker 1: them that we started, uh seven ish years ago, was
Speaker 1: the Empire League format. The Empire League format, um was
Speaker 1: was was was something I dreamed up, Scott, because I
Speaker 1: was in a dynasty league. It started really this way.
Speaker 1: I was in a dynasty league that at this stage
Speaker 1: is now like twenty one or something years old, but
Speaker 1: then was still like thirty and it it just it
Speaker 1: got stale. You know. It's just it's it's the same guys,
Speaker 1: same players, same scoring system, and it just didn't have
Speaker 1: any real like zest to it. I'm thinking to myself, man,
Speaker 1: it would mean so much more if this dynasty league
Speaker 1: had a true ending point, like the champion, and what
Speaker 1: would make it? What would be the criteria for having
Speaker 1: the champion of this thing, not just this year's champion,
Speaker 1: but the champion, and then this thing just disbands or
Speaker 1: it ends and we restart, we start from scratch or whatever.
Speaker 1: So the first thing came to me was you should
Speaker 1: win back to back. If you've got a dynasty in
Speaker 1: a dynasty team, you should be able to win two
Speaker 1: years in a row. That's you know, like in any sport,
Speaker 1: nobody's talking about you as a dynasty until you're back
Speaker 1: to back. It um. So that my first criteria was
Speaker 1: you got to win back to back, Well, how do
Speaker 1: we how do we even make that better? And then
Speaker 1: we got into the rolling pot and so for those
Speaker 1: who don't know about the Empire League and this this
Speaker 1: episode is gonna be really dedicated to Empire Leagues, to
Speaker 1: Dynasty League in which the ultimate winner wins back to
Speaker 1: back years as I mentioned, but every year, a portion
Speaker 1: of the pot, we recommend half half of the pot
Speaker 1: waits and rolls over from year to year for somebody
Speaker 1: to hit that back to back bonus and then it
Speaker 1: pays out. And it what it does is it puts.
Speaker 1: It means that if if you are a math off
Speaker 1: top of my head, if you're in one league and
Speaker 1: somebody hits it in years five and six, that ends
Speaker 1: up being something to the effect of a four dollar
Speaker 1: payoffs three payoff. It's it's real money at that point.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you can do something pretty special
Speaker 1: with that, um not. And as an unintended side effect,
Speaker 1: so there is the money and as an unintended side effect,
Speaker 1: what's ended up happening that I absolutely love about the
Speaker 1: Empire League. Scott tell listeners, what happens when you're the
Speaker 1: reigning champion. You don't get to trade. You don't get
Speaker 1: to trade. No, that's how we do it because we
Speaker 1: don't want any collusion there there a lot of them
Speaker 1: do have an abdication clause where if if you're out
Speaker 1: of it, you know you can't make that you're not
Speaker 1: going to make the run. The second year, you can say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I abdicate my throne. I'm off the throne.
Speaker 1: There's no reigning champion, and then you can trade again. Yes,
Speaker 1: but for the most part, the reigning champ can't trade.
Speaker 1: Reigning camp champ can't trade unless you're conceding the year
Speaker 1: and then we let you trade. Beyond that, though everybody's
Speaker 1: gunning for you, that's where you want to That's where
Speaker 1: I wanted you to go. Is the more of the
Speaker 1: psychological part of it. Everybody wants you to lose, and
Speaker 1: it's awesome. Being the guy that eleven other owners want
Speaker 1: to take down all year is awesome. Yeah, you're wearing
Speaker 1: the black hat everybody every You know, when when when
Speaker 1: Scott's the reigning champion and it's my turn in the
Speaker 1: regular season to play you, I'm doing everything I can
Speaker 1: to beat you. All that matters to me is that
Speaker 1: you lose and it feels great. Yep. It's it's always
Speaker 1: good when you know that that team is either going
Speaker 1: to miss the playoffs, so they get kicked out of
Speaker 1: the playoffs and and you're just like the league lives on,
Speaker 1: The league lives on. Ye yes, uh, the Empire League.
Speaker 1: You now, we played. Its a dynasty league because you
Speaker 1: have the best chance of going of going back to
Speaker 1: back if you roll, if you if you were the
Speaker 1: champion last year, like if we were to take this
Speaker 1: season as an example, you might be rolling into this
Speaker 1: year with Travis Kelsey and Lamar Miller and Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 1: or you know, two out of those three or whatever,
Speaker 1: and you're rolling over all these great players, so you
Speaker 1: have a real chance of going back to back. Um,
Speaker 1: it's much harder in redraft where you're starting from scratch
Speaker 1: and you've got to try to win back to back.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of our listeners have been in
Speaker 1: redraft leagues, are predominantly in redraft leagues, and it's it's
Speaker 1: hard if they go back to back in redress unless
Speaker 1: you're playing with a bunch of work people that don't
Speaker 1: know how something which happens. Sometimes too, I think they
Speaker 1: are fun. Um. Now, a lot of people get hung
Speaker 1: up and I get this all the time when I
Speaker 1: talk to people that aren't willing to flip their dynasty
Speaker 1: league into an Empire league. They get hung up on
Speaker 1: the idea that the league ends. Scott talked through a
Speaker 1: little bit about what happens when the league ends, and
Speaker 1: you know what you do. Then when the league ends,
Speaker 1: when there's a back to back champ, when someone wins
Speaker 1: the Empire pot, the league is just it's just done.
Speaker 1: At that point, you can restart it fresh if you
Speaker 1: want to write, you absolutely can. But at that point
Speaker 1: the league is just done, and the Emperor takes the
Speaker 1: Empire Pot, and then you can you can either start over,
Speaker 1: you can walk away. Yeah, so you can. You know,
Speaker 1: you can look at you look at the composition of
Speaker 1: your twelve owners and you can say, all right, you know,
Speaker 1: we're all having fun here. You know, let's roll over
Speaker 1: all twelve and let's start again. Or you could be
Speaker 1: more selective and you could say, all right, you know,
Speaker 1: who wants out? This is your chance to get out?
Speaker 1: Who wants to stay in? Or you could say, you
Speaker 1: know what, they're there are three guys that really didn't
Speaker 1: weren't really into it. You don't even invite them back.
Speaker 1: You know, this is your chance to recalibrate your league.
Speaker 1: For your best owners. Absolutely, and after many years in
Speaker 1: the dynasty league, parody does become an issue. Sometimes owners
Speaker 1: are just better and then it's top heavy, and then
Speaker 1: the bottom owners don't want to play or they're less active.
Speaker 1: This this curbs that, it really does. I like taking
Speaker 1: you know you and I've talked about this offline a lot.
Speaker 1: I love taking at the opportunity to improve leagues. And
Speaker 1: part of that process is good owners and getting rid
Speaker 1: of the bad ones, which is hard to do. It's
Speaker 1: so important to a league. There is the most important part.
Speaker 1: They're always the most important part. It is your league
Speaker 1: is only if your league is not defined by its
Speaker 1: scoring system. It's defined by the quality of the owners. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: There are different scoring systems that do different things, and
Speaker 1: different constructions of leagues that do different teams that will
Speaker 1: generally do something to a league that it'll be more
Speaker 1: active here, more active here, less active here, Like it
Speaker 1: will it will shape the league in a certain way.
Speaker 1: But good owners can overcome any good or bad rule rule, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which I which I like. If there's a bad rule,
Speaker 1: good owners can overcome it. Yeah. Very important by the
Speaker 1: way to be able to do that oftentimes, Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: the you you help run the Empire leagues for our
Speaker 1: company Fanball, and we through uh product we call Safe Leagues.
Speaker 1: It's an offshoot of League Safe Safe Leagues, and you
Speaker 1: run Empire leagues. Um. One of the things that we
Speaker 1: knew would happen, and I think you can help validate
Speaker 1: this is when you've been paying into your Empire pot
Speaker 1: for a number of years, you don't want to walk
Speaker 1: away from that league. See. I think you get a
Speaker 1: lot of extra stability in an Empire league because people
Speaker 1: have been paying into this pot and they don't want
Speaker 1: to just walk away from all the money they've paid
Speaker 1: into that pot. Nope. And not only do you see
Speaker 1: people wanting to leave less when people see that, when
Speaker 1: you talk to someone and be like, you want to
Speaker 1: come join this league with me, there's a five thousand
Speaker 1: dollar pot, they're gonna jump at it. Yeah, you could
Speaker 1: fill that spot. So if you've got to go it's
Speaker 1: crazy enough to walk away from the Empire pot, you
Speaker 1: can find an owner who wants to come in. Because
Speaker 1: for the cost of playing for one year, hundred bucks,
Speaker 1: you have a chance at the five thousand dollar rolling
Speaker 1: pot that's been accumulating. Yeah, that counts for a Ton.
Speaker 1: That's another reason. It's another reason that we like the
Speaker 1: the the Empire League. Uh, I want to take a
Speaker 1: quick break, but then after that, I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you about whether or not you want to have
Speaker 1: deep rosters or shallow rosters in an Empire league, and
Speaker 1: what the advantages and disadvantages of shallow or deep rosters
Speaker 1: are based a little bit on how you want your
Speaker 1: Empire league to go. And then you've also got some data.
Speaker 1: Having run in the ballpark of a hundred Empire leagues
Speaker 1: for us, you've done some data mining on Empire leagues
Speaker 1: that we can pass along to listeners as well. It's
Speaker 1: Paul Charching and Scott Fish. It's an Empire League edition
Speaker 1: of Fantasy Football Weekly. We're back Paul charch In Scott
Speaker 1: Fish with you talking about Empire leagues. It's one of
Speaker 1: the things that we're really passionate about it. Scott is
Speaker 1: a is been in the dynasty realm for years and
Speaker 1: years and years, years and and um I remember the
Speaker 1: first guy ever heard talk to it was in a
Speaker 1: dynasty league. It was nine four dropped he dropped the
Speaker 1: term dynasty. I mean, what's what does dynasty even mean? What?
Speaker 1: What is a dynasty league, and so you know, he
Speaker 1: explained he was holding everybody, and I was really intrigued
Speaker 1: by that. But I didn't start playing until closer to
Speaker 1: two thousand or ninety eight or something in that ballpark,
Speaker 1: I want to say. And then you were hooked, and
Speaker 1: then I was hooked. I've been in one ever since.
Speaker 1: What's your what's your dynasty background? Ninety two was when
Speaker 1: I started my first dynasty league. Dang, because that's all
Speaker 1: I knew at the time, and that's the only way
Speaker 1: you knew how to play. My dad played a Big
Speaker 1: ten basketball dynasty league where you drafted them as incoming
Speaker 1: freshmen and you kept him throughout their college career. So
Speaker 1: I didn't know that a redrafted league existed. I didn't
Speaker 1: know how to play. I just knew it was you
Speaker 1: kept all your plays. Was your first pick, Jim Chicken Chance,
Speaker 1: it was Steve Young? It was and uh well, you
Speaker 1: said it was Big ten basketball, no basket, So I
Speaker 1: know you gotta go with like Evan eshen Meyer style
Speaker 1: if you're gonna if you're gonna go there, um who
Speaker 1: played I believe years earlier than that. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: Uh no, Steve Young was my first Dynasty draft pick.
Speaker 1: And I still remember rookie draft standing up on a
Speaker 1: chair getting excited, saying that J. J. Stokes was the
Speaker 1: next Jerry Rice. How do you c l A you
Speaker 1: have a first rounded you might remember I do remember
Speaker 1: well because he was slow, super slow. That was a
Speaker 1: bad deal. That was a good year, right, Joey call
Speaker 1: theway Michael Westbrook like that was a good year for
Speaker 1: wide receivers. I don't remember that class anyway. Although I
Speaker 1: will say this, in the course of my time in
Speaker 1: the fantasy sort of news quasi journalism business, We've only
Speaker 1: ever broken a hand I have only ever broken a
Speaker 1: handful of stories. J J. Stokes release from the Jaguars
Speaker 1: was one of them that we broke. Yes, yes, so,
Speaker 1: And I was very disappointed when it got picked up
Speaker 1: by other news services and they called it internet reports.
Speaker 1: Oh come on, could you just give us credit, give
Speaker 1: us a little bit. Yeah, we didn't get that. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Empire League, we you and I think have just
Speaker 1: a fundamental difference on roster size um. And it's philosoply
Speaker 1: what you want to get out of what you want
Speaker 1: to get out of the Empire League. So I want
Speaker 1: to talk roster side with you the prevailing you are
Speaker 1: in the vast majority of people that like to have
Speaker 1: a deep roster of a lot of players. Tell people
Speaker 1: nasty Empire Dynasty format. I I get your point of
Speaker 1: view on Empire a little bit more, okay, And Plus,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned on when I talk about commissioner stuff,
Speaker 1: play what you enjoy the beauty of Dynasty Empire. There's
Speaker 1: so many different ways to play, play what you love,
Speaker 1: and all of fantasy football there's no overarching thing that
Speaker 1: says you've got to play our way exactly, although when
Speaker 1: you play in the big services you kind of do
Speaker 1: who you know, you really do have pretty limited ways
Speaker 1: to play anyway. Uh, tell people why you like a
Speaker 1: deeper roster and how many what? What do you think
Speaker 1: is the right number of roster spots for Dynasty or
Speaker 1: Empire Empire? Since this Empire podcast talk to me about
Speaker 1: Empire less, so I think I think in Empire leagues,
Speaker 1: I prefer in the twenty two range. Okay, which I
Speaker 1: I an incredibly large amount, but you're like, oh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna pull it back to exactly all right, So I
Speaker 1: is twenty two good number for an Empire league roster?
Speaker 1: I I feel like it's just enough that you can
Speaker 1: still build that dynasty with the back end of talent
Speaker 1: and have fun with rookies staying at the back of
Speaker 1: your bench. I feel like you go down to the
Speaker 1: sixteen level and a reigning champion has trouble, you know,
Speaker 1: they basically have to make the call to go for it,
Speaker 1: because it's it's tough to like stash rookies to you know,
Speaker 1: for a later chance. If you you have, you have
Speaker 1: one shot, and then it's basically rebuild. And and I
Speaker 1: want the I want teams to have the ability to
Speaker 1: you know, stash those lower level guys, you know, just
Speaker 1: in case it doesn't happen. Which I get your side
Speaker 1: to the sixteen man rosters. Uh, the great benefits, by
Speaker 1: the way, I think sixteen is just about perfect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: keep going. What what what is the benefit in an
Speaker 1: Empire League of having a sixteen roster? The great benefit
Speaker 1: of having a sixteen man roster in an Empire League
Speaker 1: is that a reigning champ who cannot trade has ample
Speaker 1: amounts of things on the waiver wire to aid them
Speaker 1: in winning that championship. Granted, they do still have to
Speaker 1: fight eleven of other owners for those wide wire pieces.
Speaker 1: But at least it give some more of a puncher's
Speaker 1: chance that at that pot. That's really I think, as
Speaker 1: much as anything else. When I look at roster composition
Speaker 1: for Dynasty and Empire, the first question is do you
Speaker 1: out to have a waiver wire that has anybody with
Speaker 1: a pulse on it? And anybody's played the Scott fish
Speaker 1: pol knows that you can go the whole year not
Speaker 1: making a waiver transaction because there's nobody to be had
Speaker 1: um and you can still you can have a good team.
Speaker 1: You can have a a very bad team. Uh. I think
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want an Empire league to
Speaker 1: last forever by design. I want somebody to hit back
Speaker 1: to back on that. What's your ideal length for I
Speaker 1: think it's in the five six year range because I
Speaker 1: think if if I could, in my mind when I
Speaker 1: was coming up with Empire leagues, five or six years
Speaker 1: felt like the right amount of time to give everybody
Speaker 1: kind of a chance to to get in and you know,
Speaker 1: help sculpt their squad. And I thought that that would
Speaker 1: be pretty typical of when the payout what happened, knowing
Speaker 1: that some people would pay out in your one and
Speaker 1: two we went it right after that, and other times
Speaker 1: you go ten years. But I thought in that five
Speaker 1: six range would be about right. Um, but you know,
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's no rules on that obviously. What
Speaker 1: kind of data have you gleaned from the hundred or
Speaker 1: so empire leagues that you run at safe leagues about
Speaker 1: typical length of Empire leagues before somebody hits it? Sure,
Speaker 1: First off, there is there are people out there that
Speaker 1: have trouble joining the Empire League just because they're worried
Speaker 1: that it's going to go away in two years, that
Speaker 1: it's going to go away right away, and that does happen.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's pretty rare. I've I've found with
Speaker 1: these leagues. They're the sixteen man rosters went away or
Speaker 1: you know, we had a back to back champ in
Speaker 1: two years in one out of every nine leagues about
Speaker 1: one and nine and one in after one in the
Speaker 1: first two years back to back. Then I'm surprised it's
Speaker 1: not even that high. And then in the two man rosters. Okay,
Speaker 1: hold on a second, I think so many people in
Speaker 1: dynasty and empire leagues get fixated on young players and
Speaker 1: then other people are gonna come and go nobody wants
Speaker 1: to play over thirty. Fine, I'll take all these players
Speaker 1: over thirty and they'll win it. And they'll go win
Speaker 1: it right off the bat with a bunch of old
Speaker 1: guys because everybody else's mindset is so locked into young
Speaker 1: players all the time. All it takes is gain a
Speaker 1: few of those in one league and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's a nine man league. Really really it is. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: So that's that's a tough. A tough way to try
Speaker 1: to play an empire league is to just uh go
Speaker 1: after all youth and just let the top teams grab
Speaker 1: all those you know, vets that are scoring points. So
Speaker 1: one in eight to one and nine teams win it
Speaker 1: within two years. Um, So it's not much of a concern,
Speaker 1: but it does exist. We recognize it exists. Someone's that's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. About thirty percent of leagues you have a
Speaker 1: double winner within three years, which seems was still a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I'm surprised. It's it's within three years. Keep
Speaker 1: going at four years, it's about okay. Leagues have cashed
Speaker 1: out by has a double champ in either year two,
Speaker 1: year three, or year four. It's a little sooner than
Speaker 1: I had expected. All right, uh right, now we we
Speaker 1: do have leagues, you know, entering year six, now we
Speaker 1: have a we have a good amount of them, I bet.
Speaker 1: And that's when we started servicing Empire leagues on our
Speaker 1: side of the fence. And so they're a bunch of
Speaker 1: Empire leagues are still going through safe leagues. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, it's fun. We had we paid out if
Speaker 1: we had to know, we were happy to. We paid
Speaker 1: out a five thousand dollar pot last year. How about that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that guy had been in it since year one and
Speaker 1: he took it down. Yea thousand bucks. All right, Now
Speaker 1: I want to talk briefly some draft strategy for you,
Speaker 1: and specifically this if of leagues are done in the
Speaker 1: four year range, and you know then so I think,
Speaker 1: you know, four year, five year, six years probably the
Speaker 1: most common. I would think here, as we run more
Speaker 1: and more, I think that, yeah, that's probably five, four
Speaker 1: or six years is probably where the most of them
Speaker 1: we win. How many running backs from five years ago
Speaker 1: are relevant today? Relevant? Almost none? Almost relevant to a
Speaker 1: similar level. None? None. Right, So when I start my
Speaker 1: when I start my Empire league, you know, uh, I
Speaker 1: am I issue running backs almost entirely. They're gonna come
Speaker 1: and go. I promote that in Dynasty as well. I
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's valid there too. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: and I don't even necessarily. It's not that I don't
Speaker 1: want to win my Empire League and you're one and two,
Speaker 1: but I'd really rather hit it in year five and
Speaker 1: six and get the big Empire pot. Right. So I'm
Speaker 1: really gonna position myself primarily to be value to have
Speaker 1: a chance of winning this thing later on. And that
Speaker 1: to me is I want to be drafting players who
Speaker 1: are young and not a running back, that are gonna
Speaker 1: be able to be helping, helpful of my team in
Speaker 1: five years. That means I want a young, great tight end.
Speaker 1: I want young great wide receivers, and maybe a young
Speaker 1: great quarterback. I was gonna say at this point in time,
Speaker 1: I have no problem with someone taking George Kittle at
Speaker 1: age and Patrick Mahomes at age twenty three first right
Speaker 1: right away. You absolutely could. You were going to get
Speaker 1: those two players for six years, seven years, eight years
Speaker 1: of high level skills. Yeah, it's it's weird to say
Speaker 1: that like a quarterback that earlier tight end there, but
Speaker 1: That's that's the way it is. You can get wide
Speaker 1: receivers in the later round. You can draft them and
Speaker 1: rookie drafts, tight ends and rookie drafts. You're waiting three
Speaker 1: years on him, you really are. I've had Julio Jones
Speaker 1: for his entire career, and he was my first overall,
Speaker 1: my first round selection because I looked at his quarterback
Speaker 1: who was then a young Matt Ryan and already good.
Speaker 1: And here's Julio Jones is a rookie. He's gonna be good,
Speaker 1: and like game on, I'm gonna you know, if Julio
Speaker 1: Jones as good as I think he can be, I
Speaker 1: could hold him for you know, a decade, And now
Speaker 1: here we are, almost a decade later, Leo Jones is
Speaker 1: still is still it's still valuable. So I really think
Speaker 1: Empire leagues in particular, the way the way that initial
Speaker 1: draft should go is you're really building around the young
Speaker 1: players at positions that have a long life span. And
Speaker 1: running back is it's basically everybody butt running back. Uh,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, George Kittle. Kelsey's actually now get so he's
Speaker 1: actually probably doesn't fit the mold. Uh So maybe it's
Speaker 1: it's more Kittle as somebody who makes a ton of
Speaker 1: sense as a as a young, building black guy at
Speaker 1: a position of of weakness at tight end. You know,
Speaker 1: every year it seems like talking about you know, who
Speaker 1: can find a nobody? So yeah, that's um, we have
Speaker 1: all for that trap every year too. We we think
Speaker 1: this is the year they're they're going to be deeper deeper,
Speaker 1: and then three injuries later, there's just suddenly nobody to
Speaker 1: pick up again? Is tight end twelve somehow? Right? Yes,
Speaker 1: and he's not even good I know, seving a bad
Speaker 1: year and he's tight end twelve. Uh, It's it's always
Speaker 1: a battle at the tight end position. But um, you know,
Speaker 1: as off the top of my head, a guy like
Speaker 1: Courtland's Sutton fascinating if you think through lock is for real.
Speaker 1: Portland's Sutton looks like a beast. You know, he could
Speaker 1: be powering your team for another decade. Chris well, we
Speaker 1: don't even know his quarterbacks is gonna be That's the
Speaker 1: problem with Chris. You're like, yeah, your quarterbacks, who's the quarterback?
Speaker 1: So you know, I love identifying those receivers that have
Speaker 1: got the quarterbacks the you know guys that I wouldn't
Speaker 1: that other people are gonna reach for the running backs
Speaker 1: of people are gonna reach for it, like Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 1: Just is he gonna be? Is Ezekiel Elliott going to
Speaker 1: be a player who's a valid helper in four years,
Speaker 1: in five years, in six years? And I don't even
Speaker 1: know that I can say that about Christie McCaffrey. Maybe
Speaker 1: now you would think just with all the usage he's had, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a four plus a touch guy. Wasn't over
Speaker 1: the three seventy anyway, he topped the three seventy marker
Speaker 1: total touches. So which is the danger mark for for
Speaker 1: running backs? Um? Anything else Empire League related that you
Speaker 1: want to stress to people that are either new into
Speaker 1: it or think you know in the Empire leagues right now?
Speaker 1: I think the main thing I would stress out there
Speaker 1: is the main concern I hear is that it could
Speaker 1: be over in two years. You can't go in there
Speaker 1: because it's we're talking at best that that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I mean, it happens, but or if this is just
Speaker 1: an offshoot of it, If you're really worried about that,
Speaker 1: and people in your league are really worried about it,
Speaker 1: say you can't win it. You have to win two
Speaker 1: in a orrow after year two, yeah, you can. You
Speaker 1: can make a rule. You can make rule. It just says,
Speaker 1: you know, we're not paying out until you're four or whatever,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, that's the earliest you can do it.
Speaker 1: But even so, is it the worst thing that you
Speaker 1: have a redraft? Is? That isn't really so bad, it's
Speaker 1: all but man, people get attached to their rosters. They
Speaker 1: get emotionally attached the roster, and they hate the notion
Speaker 1: of giving it up even when the roster is not good.
Speaker 1: You know what you can do. You can you can
Speaker 1: win to in a row out the Empire pot and
Speaker 1: just keep all your rosters if you really want to.
Speaker 1: We don't recommend that now. I think the fresh start
Speaker 1: is great, but at that point you might want to
Speaker 1: because some somebody else has obviously got a great roster
Speaker 1: that's gone back to back on a great job today. Scott,
Speaker 1: thank you listeners, appreciate you getting to the end of
Speaker 1: the podcast. Hope you enjoyed an Empire League breakdown. We'll
Speaker 1: talk more Empire League throughout the off season because I
Speaker 1: love it. Scott loves it, and dynasty leagues and rookies
Speaker 1: and free agents, and we'll probably talk a few ways
Speaker 1: to play that you know, you might might be able
Speaker 1: to take to home leagues. Yeah, we'll definitely be talking
Speaker 1: guillotine leagues. I know that. Um I might dust off
Speaker 1: the old thievery league idea with you. Yeah, I might
Speaker 1: go back to that a little bit. I still don't.
Speaker 1: I still believe there's a little something on that league.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes. Thanks for listening, everybody.
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