1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from I Heart Radio, 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: your weekly source for the nation's best fantasy speculation and advice. 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Now along with the guys from fanball dot Com. Here's 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: the host for Fantasy Football Weekly, Paul. Welcome to another 6 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: edition of Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Charchi and 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: my co host is Scott fish High. Scott, Hello, they're 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: good to talk to you again. I now, one of 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: the things that you and I have in common that 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: a lot of casual listeners for Fantasootball Weekly won't know 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: is that you and I love unique ways to play 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: fantasy football variations and you know, crazy concepts. I have 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: thrown dozens of weird ways to play at you, and 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, gotten feedback, and um, you're one of the 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: few people that is is not like will you just 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: shut up about your stupil league? I d um, and 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: I love that about you. Is that is that we 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: share a passion for unique ways to play. One of 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: them that we started, uh seven ish years ago, was 20 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: the Empire League format. The Empire League format, um was 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: was was was something I dreamed up, Scott, because I 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: was in a dynasty league. It started really this way. 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,279 Speaker 1: I was in a dynasty league that at this stage 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: is now like twenty one or something years old, but 25 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: then was still like thirty and it it just it 26 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: got stale. You know. It's just it's it's the same guys, 27 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: same players, same scoring system, and it just didn't have 28 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: any real like zest to it. I'm thinking to myself, man, 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: it would mean so much more if this dynasty league 30 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: had a true ending point, like the champion, and what 31 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: would make it? What would be the criteria for having 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: the champion of this thing, not just this year's champion, 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: but the champion, and then this thing just disbands or 34 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: it ends and we restart, we start from scratch or whatever. 35 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: So the first thing came to me was you should 36 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: win back to back. If you've got a dynasty in 37 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: a dynasty team, you should be able to win two 38 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: years in a row. That's you know, like in any sport, 39 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: nobody's talking about you as a dynasty until you're back 40 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: to back. It um. So that my first criteria was 41 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: you got to win back to back, Well, how do 42 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: we how do we even make that better? And then 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: we got into the rolling pot and so for those 44 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: who don't know about the Empire League and this this 45 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: episode is gonna be really dedicated to Empire Leagues, to 46 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: Dynasty League in which the ultimate winner wins back to 47 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: back years as I mentioned, but every year, a portion 48 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: of the pot, we recommend half half of the pot 49 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: waits and rolls over from year to year for somebody 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: to hit that back to back bonus and then it 51 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: pays out. And it what it does is it puts. 52 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: It means that if if you are a math off 53 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: top of my head, if you're in one league and 54 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: somebody hits it in years five and six, that ends 55 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: up being something to the effect of a four dollar 56 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: payoffs three payoff. It's it's real money at that point. 57 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you can do something pretty special 58 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: with that, um not. And as an unintended side effect, 59 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: so there is the money and as an unintended side effect, 60 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: what's ended up happening that I absolutely love about the 61 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: Empire League. Scott tell listeners, what happens when you're the 62 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: reigning champion. You don't get to trade. You don't get 63 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: to trade. No, that's how we do it because we 64 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: don't want any collusion there there a lot of them 65 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: do have an abdication clause where if if you're out 66 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: of it, you know you can't make that you're not 67 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: going to make the run. The second year, you can say, 68 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: you know what, I abdicate my throne. I'm off the throne. 69 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: There's no reigning champion, and then you can trade again. Yes, 70 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: but for the most part, the reigning champ can't trade. 71 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: Reigning camp champ can't trade unless you're conceding the year 72 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: and then we let you trade. Beyond that, though everybody's 73 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: gunning for you, that's where you want to That's where 74 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: I wanted you to go. Is the more of the 75 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: psychological part of it. Everybody wants you to lose, and 76 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: it's awesome. Being the guy that eleven other owners want 77 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: to take down all year is awesome. Yeah, you're wearing 78 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: the black hat everybody every You know, when when when 79 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: Scott's the reigning champion and it's my turn in the 80 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: regular season to play you, I'm doing everything I can 81 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: to beat you. All that matters to me is that 82 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: you lose and it feels great. Yep. It's it's always 83 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: good when you know that that team is either going 84 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: to miss the playoffs, so they get kicked out of 85 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs and and you're just like the league lives on, 86 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: The league lives on. Ye yes, uh, the Empire League. 87 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: You now, we played. Its a dynasty league because you 88 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: have the best chance of going of going back to 89 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: back if you roll, if you if you were the 90 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: champion last year, like if we were to take this 91 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: season as an example, you might be rolling into this 92 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: year with Travis Kelsey and Lamar Miller and Christian McCaffrey 93 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: or you know, two out of those three or whatever, 94 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: and you're rolling over all these great players, so you 95 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: have a real chance of going back to back. Um, 96 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: it's much harder in redraft where you're starting from scratch 97 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: and you've got to try to win back to back. 98 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of our listeners have been in 99 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: redraft leagues, are predominantly in redraft leagues, and it's it's 100 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: hard if they go back to back in redress unless 101 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: you're playing with a bunch of work people that don't 102 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: know how something which happens. Sometimes too, I think they 103 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: are fun. Um. Now, a lot of people get hung 104 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: up and I get this all the time when I 105 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: talk to people that aren't willing to flip their dynasty 106 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: league into an Empire league. They get hung up on 107 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: the idea that the league ends. Scott talked through a 108 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: little bit about what happens when the league ends, and 109 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: you know what you do. Then when the league ends, 110 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: when there's a back to back champ, when someone wins 111 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: the Empire pot, the league is just it's just done. 112 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: At that point, you can restart it fresh if you 113 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: want to write, you absolutely can. But at that point 114 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: the league is just done, and the Emperor takes the 115 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Empire Pot, and then you can you can either start over, 116 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: you can walk away. Yeah, so you can. You know, 117 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: you can look at you look at the composition of 118 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: your twelve owners and you can say, all right, you know, 119 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: we're all having fun here. You know, let's roll over 120 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: all twelve and let's start again. Or you could be 121 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: more selective and you could say, all right, you know, 122 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: who wants out? This is your chance to get out? 123 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: Who wants to stay in? Or you could say, you 124 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: know what, they're there are three guys that really didn't 125 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: weren't really into it. You don't even invite them back. 126 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: You know, this is your chance to recalibrate your league. 127 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: For your best owners. Absolutely, and after many years in 128 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: the dynasty league, parody does become an issue. Sometimes owners 129 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: are just better and then it's top heavy, and then 130 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: the bottom owners don't want to play or they're less active. 131 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: This this curbs that, it really does. I like taking 132 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: you know you and I've talked about this offline a lot. 133 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: I love taking at the opportunity to improve leagues. And 134 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: part of that process is good owners and getting rid 135 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: of the bad ones, which is hard to do. It's 136 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: so important to a league. There is the most important part. 137 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: They're always the most important part. It is your league 138 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: is only if your league is not defined by its 139 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: scoring system. It's defined by the quality of the owners. Absolutely. 140 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: There are different scoring systems that do different things, and 141 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: different constructions of leagues that do different teams that will 142 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: generally do something to a league that it'll be more 143 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: active here, more active here, less active here, Like it 144 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: will it will shape the league in a certain way. 145 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: But good owners can overcome any good or bad rule rule, Yeah, 146 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: which I which I like. If there's a bad rule, 147 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: good owners can overcome it. Yeah. Very important by the 148 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: way to be able to do that oftentimes, Yeah, um, 149 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: the you you help run the Empire leagues for our 150 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: company Fanball, and we through uh product we call Safe Leagues. 151 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: It's an offshoot of League Safe Safe Leagues, and you 152 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: run Empire leagues. Um. One of the things that we 153 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: knew would happen, and I think you can help validate 154 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: this is when you've been paying into your Empire pot 155 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: for a number of years, you don't want to walk 156 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: away from that league. See. I think you get a 157 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: lot of extra stability in an Empire league because people 158 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: have been paying into this pot and they don't want 159 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: to just walk away from all the money they've paid 160 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: into that pot. Nope. And not only do you see 161 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: people wanting to leave less when people see that, when 162 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: you talk to someone and be like, you want to 163 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: come join this league with me, there's a five thousand 164 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: dollar pot, they're gonna jump at it. Yeah, you could 165 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: fill that spot. So if you've got to go it's 166 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: crazy enough to walk away from the Empire pot, you 167 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: can find an owner who wants to come in. Because 168 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: for the cost of playing for one year, hundred bucks, 169 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: you have a chance at the five thousand dollar rolling 170 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: pot that's been accumulating. Yeah, that counts for a Ton. 171 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: That's another reason. It's another reason that we like the 172 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: the the Empire League. Uh, I want to take a 173 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: quick break, but then after that, I want to talk 174 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: to you about whether or not you want to have 175 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: deep rosters or shallow rosters in an Empire league, and 176 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: what the advantages and disadvantages of shallow or deep rosters 177 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: are based a little bit on how you want your 178 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: Empire league to go. And then you've also got some data. 179 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: Having run in the ballpark of a hundred Empire leagues 180 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: for us, you've done some data mining on Empire leagues 181 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: that we can pass along to listeners as well. It's 182 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: Paul Charching and Scott Fish. It's an Empire League edition 183 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: of Fantasy Football Weekly. We're back Paul charch In Scott 184 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,599 Speaker 1: Fish with you talking about Empire leagues. It's one of 185 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: the things that we're really passionate about it. Scott is 186 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: a is been in the dynasty realm for years and 187 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: years and years, years and and um I remember the 188 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: first guy ever heard talk to it was in a 189 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: dynasty league. It was nine four dropped he dropped the 190 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: term dynasty. I mean, what's what does dynasty even mean? What? 191 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: What is a dynasty league, and so you know, he 192 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: explained he was holding everybody, and I was really intrigued 193 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: by that. But I didn't start playing until closer to 194 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: two thousand or ninety eight or something in that ballpark, 195 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: I want to say. And then you were hooked, and 196 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: then I was hooked. I've been in one ever since. 197 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: What's your what's your dynasty background? Ninety two was when 198 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: I started my first dynasty league. Dang, because that's all 199 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: I knew at the time, and that's the only way 200 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: you knew how to play. My dad played a Big 201 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: ten basketball dynasty league where you drafted them as incoming 202 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: freshmen and you kept him throughout their college career. So 203 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know that a redrafted league existed. I didn't 204 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: know how to play. I just knew it was you 205 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: kept all your plays. Was your first pick, Jim Chicken Chance, 206 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: it was Steve Young? It was and uh well, you 207 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: said it was Big ten basketball, no basket, So I 208 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: know you gotta go with like Evan eshen Meyer style 209 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: if you're gonna if you're gonna go there, um who 210 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: played I believe years earlier than that. I think, yeah, 211 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: Uh no, Steve Young was my first Dynasty draft pick. 212 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: And I still remember rookie draft standing up on a 213 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: chair getting excited, saying that J. J. Stokes was the 214 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: next Jerry Rice. How do you c l A you 215 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: have a first rounded you might remember I do remember 216 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: well because he was slow, super slow. That was a 217 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: bad deal. That was a good year, right, Joey call 218 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: theway Michael Westbrook like that was a good year for 219 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: wide receivers. I don't remember that class anyway. Although I 220 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: will say this, in the course of my time in 221 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: the fantasy sort of news quasi journalism business, We've only 222 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: ever broken a hand I have only ever broken a 223 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,359 Speaker 1: handful of stories. J J. Stokes release from the Jaguars 224 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: was one of them that we broke. Yes, yes, so, 225 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: And I was very disappointed when it got picked up 226 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: by other news services and they called it internet reports. 227 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: Oh come on, could you just give us credit, give 228 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: us a little bit. Yeah, we didn't get that. Uh. 229 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: The Empire League, we you and I think have just 230 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: a fundamental difference on roster size um. And it's philosoply 231 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: what you want to get out of what you want 232 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: to get out of the Empire League. So I want 233 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: to talk roster side with you the prevailing you are 234 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: in the vast majority of people that like to have 235 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: a deep roster of a lot of players. Tell people 236 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: nasty Empire Dynasty format. I I get your point of 237 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: view on Empire a little bit more, okay, And Plus, 238 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: as I mentioned on when I talk about commissioner stuff, 239 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: play what you enjoy the beauty of Dynasty Empire. There's 240 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: so many different ways to play, play what you love, 241 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: and all of fantasy football there's no overarching thing that 242 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: says you've got to play our way exactly, although when 243 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: you play in the big services you kind of do 244 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: who you know, you really do have pretty limited ways 245 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: to play anyway. Uh, tell people why you like a 246 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: deeper roster and how many what? What do you think 247 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: is the right number of roster spots for Dynasty or 248 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: Empire Empire? Since this Empire podcast talk to me about 249 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: Empire less, so I think I think in Empire leagues, 250 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: I prefer in the twenty two range. Okay, which I 251 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: I an incredibly large amount, but you're like, oh, we're 252 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: gonna pull it back to exactly all right, So I 253 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: is twenty two good number for an Empire league roster? 254 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: I I feel like it's just enough that you can 255 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: still build that dynasty with the back end of talent 256 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: and have fun with rookies staying at the back of 257 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: your bench. I feel like you go down to the 258 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: sixteen level and a reigning champion has trouble, you know, 259 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: they basically have to make the call to go for it, 260 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: because it's it's tough to like stash rookies to you know, 261 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: for a later chance. If you you have, you have 262 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: one shot, and then it's basically rebuild. And and I 263 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: want the I want teams to have the ability to 264 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, stash those lower level guys, you know, just 265 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: in case it doesn't happen. Which I get your side 266 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: to the sixteen man rosters. Uh, the great benefits, by 267 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: the way, I think sixteen is just about perfect. Yeah, 268 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: keep going. What what what is the benefit in an 269 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: Empire League of having a sixteen roster? The great benefit 270 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: of having a sixteen man roster in an Empire League 271 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: is that a reigning champ who cannot trade has ample 272 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: amounts of things on the waiver wire to aid them 273 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: in winning that championship. Granted, they do still have to 274 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: fight eleven of other owners for those wide wire pieces. 275 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: But at least it give some more of a puncher's 276 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: chance that at that pot. That's really I think, as 277 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: much as anything else. When I look at roster composition 278 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: for Dynasty and Empire, the first question is do you 279 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: out to have a waiver wire that has anybody with 280 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: a pulse on it? And anybody's played the Scott fish 281 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: pol knows that you can go the whole year not 282 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: making a waiver transaction because there's nobody to be had 283 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: um and you can still you can have a good team. 284 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: You can have a a very bad team. Uh. I think 285 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want an Empire league to 286 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: last forever by design. I want somebody to hit back 287 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: to back on that. What's your ideal length for I 288 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: think it's in the five six year range because I 289 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: think if if I could, in my mind when I 290 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: was coming up with Empire leagues, five or six years 291 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: felt like the right amount of time to give everybody 292 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: kind of a chance to to get in and you know, 293 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: help sculpt their squad. And I thought that that would 294 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: be pretty typical of when the payout what happened, knowing 295 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: that some people would pay out in your one and 296 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: two we went it right after that, and other times 297 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: you go ten years. But I thought in that five 298 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: six range would be about right. Um, but you know, 299 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's no rules on that obviously. What 300 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: kind of data have you gleaned from the hundred or 301 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: so empire leagues that you run at safe leagues about 302 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: typical length of Empire leagues before somebody hits it? Sure, 303 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: First off, there is there are people out there that 304 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: have trouble joining the Empire League just because they're worried 305 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: that it's going to go away in two years, that 306 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: it's going to go away right away, and that does happen. 307 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's pretty rare. I've I've found with 308 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: these leagues. They're the sixteen man rosters went away or 309 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, we had a back to back champ in 310 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: two years in one out of every nine leagues about 311 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: one and nine and one in after one in the 312 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: first two years back to back. Then I'm surprised it's 313 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: not even that high. And then in the two man rosters. Okay, 314 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: hold on a second, I think so many people in 315 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: dynasty and empire leagues get fixated on young players and 316 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: then other people are gonna come and go nobody wants 317 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: to play over thirty. Fine, I'll take all these players 318 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: over thirty and they'll win it. And they'll go win 319 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: it right off the bat with a bunch of old 320 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: guys because everybody else's mindset is so locked into young 321 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: players all the time. All it takes is gain a 322 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: few of those in one league and then all of 323 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's a nine man league. Really really it is. Yeah, yes, 324 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: So that's that's a tough. A tough way to try 325 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 1: to play an empire league is to just uh go 326 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: after all youth and just let the top teams grab 327 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: all those you know, vets that are scoring points. So 328 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: one in eight to one and nine teams win it 329 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: within two years. Um, So it's not much of a concern, 330 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: but it does exist. We recognize it exists. Someone's that's 331 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: gonna happen. About thirty percent of leagues you have a 332 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: double winner within three years, which seems was still a lot. Yeah, 333 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I'm surprised. It's it's within three years. Keep 334 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: going at four years, it's about okay. Leagues have cashed 335 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: out by has a double champ in either year two, 336 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: year three, or year four. It's a little sooner than 337 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: I had expected. All right, uh right, now we we 338 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: do have leagues, you know, entering year six, now we 339 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: have a we have a good amount of them, I bet. 340 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: And that's when we started servicing Empire leagues on our 341 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: side of the fence. And so they're a bunch of 342 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: Empire leagues are still going through safe leagues. I'll tell 343 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: you what, it's fun. We had we paid out if 344 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: we had to know, we were happy to. We paid 345 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: out a five thousand dollar pot last year. How about that? Yeah, 346 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: that guy had been in it since year one and 347 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: he took it down. Yea thousand bucks. All right, Now 348 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: I want to talk briefly some draft strategy for you, 349 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: and specifically this if of leagues are done in the 350 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: four year range, and you know then so I think, 351 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, four year, five year, six years probably the 352 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: most common. I would think here, as we run more 353 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: and more, I think that, yeah, that's probably five, four 354 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: or six years is probably where the most of them 355 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: we win. How many running backs from five years ago 356 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: are relevant today? Relevant? Almost none? Almost relevant to a 357 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: similar level. None? None. Right, So when I start my 358 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: when I start my Empire league, you know, uh, I 359 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: am I issue running backs almost entirely. They're gonna come 360 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: and go. I promote that in Dynasty as well. I 361 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's valid there too. Um, I'm 362 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: and I don't even necessarily. It's not that I don't 363 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: want to win my Empire League and you're one and two, 364 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: but I'd really rather hit it in year five and 365 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: six and get the big Empire pot. Right. So I'm 366 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: really gonna position myself primarily to be value to have 367 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: a chance of winning this thing later on. And that 368 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: to me is I want to be drafting players who 369 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: are young and not a running back, that are gonna 370 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: be able to be helping, helpful of my team in 371 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: five years. That means I want a young, great tight end. 372 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: I want young great wide receivers, and maybe a young 373 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: great quarterback. I was gonna say at this point in time, 374 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,239 Speaker 1: I have no problem with someone taking George Kittle at 375 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: age and Patrick Mahomes at age twenty three first right 376 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: right away. You absolutely could. You were going to get 377 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: those two players for six years, seven years, eight years 378 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: of high level skills. Yeah, it's it's weird to say 379 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: that like a quarterback that earlier tight end there, but 380 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: That's that's the way it is. You can get wide 381 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: receivers in the later round. You can draft them and 382 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: rookie drafts, tight ends and rookie drafts. You're waiting three 383 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: years on him, you really are. I've had Julio Jones 384 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: for his entire career, and he was my first overall, 385 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: my first round selection because I looked at his quarterback 386 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: who was then a young Matt Ryan and already good. 387 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: And here's Julio Jones is a rookie. He's gonna be good, 388 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 1: and like game on, I'm gonna you know, if Julio 389 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: Jones as good as I think he can be, I 390 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: could hold him for you know, a decade, And now 391 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: here we are, almost a decade later, Leo Jones is 392 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: still is still it's still valuable. So I really think 393 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: Empire leagues in particular, the way the way that initial 394 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: draft should go is you're really building around the young 395 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: players at positions that have a long life span. And 396 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: running back is it's basically everybody butt running back. Uh, 397 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, George Kittle. Kelsey's actually now get so he's 398 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: actually probably doesn't fit the mold. Uh So maybe it's 399 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: it's more Kittle as somebody who makes a ton of 400 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: sense as a as a young, building black guy at 401 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: a position of of weakness at tight end. You know, 402 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: every year it seems like talking about you know, who 403 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: can find a nobody? So yeah, that's um, we have 404 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: all for that trap every year too. We we think 405 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: this is the year they're they're going to be deeper deeper, 406 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: and then three injuries later, there's just suddenly nobody to 407 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: pick up again? Is tight end twelve somehow? Right? Yes, 408 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: and he's not even good I know, seving a bad 409 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: year and he's tight end twelve. Uh, It's it's always 410 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: a battle at the tight end position. But um, you know, 411 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: as off the top of my head, a guy like 412 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: Courtland's Sutton fascinating if you think through lock is for real. 413 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: Portland's Sutton looks like a beast. You know, he could 414 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: be powering your team for another decade. Chris well, we 415 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: don't even know his quarterbacks is gonna be That's the 416 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: problem with Chris. You're like, yeah, your quarterbacks, who's the quarterback? 417 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: So you know, I love identifying those receivers that have 418 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: got the quarterbacks the you know guys that I wouldn't 419 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: that other people are gonna reach for the running backs 420 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: of people are gonna reach for it, like Ezekiel Elliott. 421 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: Just is he gonna be? Is Ezekiel Elliott going to 422 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: be a player who's a valid helper in four years, 423 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: in five years, in six years? And I don't even 424 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: know that I can say that about Christie McCaffrey. Maybe 425 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: now you would think just with all the usage he's had, Yeah, 426 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: he was a four plus a touch guy. Wasn't over 427 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: the three seventy anyway, he topped the three seventy marker 428 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,239 Speaker 1: total touches. So which is the danger mark for for 429 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: running backs? Um? Anything else Empire League related that you 430 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: want to stress to people that are either new into 431 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: it or think you know in the Empire leagues right now? 432 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: I think the main thing I would stress out there 433 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: is the main concern I hear is that it could 434 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 1: be over in two years. You can't go in there 435 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: because it's we're talking at best that that's going to happen. 436 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it happens, but or if this is just 437 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: an offshoot of it, If you're really worried about that, 438 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 1: and people in your league are really worried about it, 439 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: say you can't win it. You have to win two 440 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: in a orrow after year two, yeah, you can. You 441 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: can make a rule. You can make rule. It just says, 442 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: you know, we're not paying out until you're four or whatever, 443 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: and that's you know, that's the earliest you can do it. 444 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: But even so, is it the worst thing that you 445 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: have a redraft? Is? That isn't really so bad, it's 446 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: all but man, people get attached to their rosters. They 447 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: get emotionally attached the roster, and they hate the notion 448 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: of giving it up even when the roster is not good. 449 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: You know what you can do. You can you can 450 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: win to in a row out the Empire pot and 451 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: just keep all your rosters if you really want to. 452 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: We don't recommend that now. I think the fresh start 453 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: is great, but at that point you might want to 454 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: because some somebody else has obviously got a great roster 455 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: that's gone back to back on a great job today. Scott, 456 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: thank you listeners, appreciate you getting to the end of 457 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: the podcast. Hope you enjoyed an Empire League breakdown. We'll 458 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: talk more Empire League throughout the off season because I 459 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: love it. Scott loves it, and dynasty leagues and rookies 460 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: and free agents, and we'll probably talk a few ways 461 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: to play that you know, you might might be able 462 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: to take to home leagues. Yeah, we'll definitely be talking 463 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: guillotine leagues. I know that. Um I might dust off 464 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 1: the old thievery league idea with you. Yeah, I might 465 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: go back to that a little bit. I still don't. 466 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: I still believe there's a little something on that league. 467 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes. Thanks for listening, everybody. 468 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: We'll be back next week for more. 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