1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: you live from the Republican National Convention, and we've got 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: an audience out there. 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: I love it. 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: Senator, this is the first morning I have ever woken 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: up truly believing that Joe Biden is going to drop 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: out of this presidential race. I've never believed it was 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: possible before this morning. I want to get your initial 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 2: reaction to that. 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 3: Well, listen, if only someone could have predicted that before 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 3: this week, I know, right. So, for regular Verdict listeners, 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: you will recall that this podcast ten months ago, ten 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: months ago, we predicted that Joe Biden would drop out 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: of this race, that the Democrats would throw him out. 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: And we predicted ten months ago that he'd be replaced 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 3: by Michelle Obama. 19 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: Yes. 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: And at the time, the corporate media treated that prediction 21 00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: as utter moon bat insanity, insanity that like complete deltely nuts. 22 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 2: Do we want a prize for ten months ago? By 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: the way, I got to give you the brainchild of 24 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: it ten months ago, I'll. 25 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: Give you full credit. Did we get a prize for that? 26 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 3: I think we certainly should get a prize. But look, 27 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 3: I think it's going to happen. I think it is 28 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: going to happen within the next week. And we have 29 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 3: seen we've seen the momentum building and building and building. 30 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: And look, I got to tell you, and you and 31 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: I have talked about this. I have mixed sentiments at 32 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: this convention. On one side, I am thrilled. I'm excited 33 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: because the party is unified. It's unified at a level 34 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: I've never seen. I've been to a lot. 35 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: Of conveen a lot of conventions. What was your first one? 36 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two. I was at nineteen ninety two. I 37 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: had just graduated from college. I was twenty one years old. 38 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two, was in Houston. 39 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: Oh, there you go. 40 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: And it was actually it was the last public speech 41 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan ever gave. And actually just after the convention 42 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: they announced he had alzheimer, so it was his last 43 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: public address. 44 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: And so for his speech, it was very cool. 45 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: Texas Delation was in front because it was in Houston, 46 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: and they decided they wanted all the college kids down front. 47 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: They wanted to show that the Republican Party is young 48 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: and vibrant. So all the college kids we were in 49 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: that we were put up front. So I was in 50 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: the front row for Reagan's last public address. 51 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm jealous. 52 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: And here's something really cool. At the time, Heidi was 53 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: in college. She was at Claremont McKenna. She was the 54 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: president of the College Republicans at Claremont McKenna out in California. 55 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: She was at the convention and she was in the 56 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: front row with the Texas delegation. 57 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: And we didn't meet. I said, did you meet? No, 58 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: we didn't meet until eight years later. Wow. 59 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: But every time I see photographs of that convention, I 60 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: like scan them to see if someone somehow got a 61 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 3: picture of Heidie and me standing near each other, because 62 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 3: we were very close to each other. So the point is, 63 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: I've been to a lot of these I have never 64 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: seen unity like this last couple of days. As you know, 65 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: I've done a ton of media interviews and you listen 66 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: to the reporters. 67 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: They're losing their minds. They're so unhappy. 68 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: They're like, you guys are soifide yea, and they're furious. 69 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't like it. 70 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: We know how to screw things up well in the 71 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: Republican Party when it comes to unity, this does feel 72 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: very different. 73 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 3: Everyone is on the same page. Everyone is united. Everyone 74 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: wants Trump to win in November. Everyone wants to win 75 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: the Senate, everyone wants to win the House. But you 76 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: and I have also talked about this. I'll tell you 77 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: what I'm scared about. I'm scared about overconfidence. 78 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. 79 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: Look, there is an aspect of this convention that feels 80 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: like a celebration, and I get that. But my message 81 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: to everyone at this convention is it is not time 82 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 3: to celebrate. We'll celebrate after election day. We need work 83 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: to do. We have a job in front of us, 84 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: and listen, I think we're going to come out of 85 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: this convention. I think we'll see a bounce in the polls, 86 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: and then I think within days or even hours, the 87 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: Democrats are going to announce Joe Biden is no longer 88 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: our nominee. They're going to pull them off, and the 89 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: media is going to reset the entire race. They're going 90 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: to do everything they can to take away the momentum 91 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: from this convention, and so nobody here should get over 92 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: confident because this becomes very, very dangerous, and the media 93 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: is going to do everything they can to say, well, 94 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: Joe was old, but now we're going to replace them 95 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: with someone young. 96 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: Everything solved, Move on forward. 97 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to get more of this, but first let 98 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: me tell you about my friends over at Patriot Mobile. 99 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 2: For more than ten years now, Patriot Mobile has been 100 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: America's only conservative, Christian wireless provider. And that should matter 101 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: to you because if you're with Big Mobile, you're giving 102 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: big donations to the Democratic Party candidates, causes and organizations 103 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: are supporting the radical left, including major donations to Plan Parenthood. 104 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: That is why Patriot Mobiles started more than a decade 105 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: ago by a group of conservatives that were sick and 106 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: tired of giving their money to companies that were fighting 107 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: against their family values. Now, switching your cell phone has 108 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: never been easier in twenty twenty four. I just did 109 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: one recently, and I did it all over the phone. 110 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: I got to keep my same cell phone number. I 111 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: got to keep my same phone. You can do that 112 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: or upgrade to a new phone, but it's done all 113 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: over the phone. And you may say, well, I'm just 114 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: worried about coverage. I'm happy with that I have. Well, 115 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, everybody or everybody is using the 116 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: same towers. Now you're going to have the same coverage 117 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: that you're used to without supporting the radical lefts agenda. 118 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: And then there's the big perk. 119 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: Every month, Patriot Mobile takes about five percent of your 120 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: bill at no additional costs to you, and they give 121 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: it back to conservative causes and organizations that fight for 122 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: free speech, religious freedom, the sanctity of life, the Second Amendment, 123 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: as well as our military, our veterans, and our first 124 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: responder heroes. They're one hundred percent US based customer service 125 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 2: team makes switching easy. So call them and I'm going 126 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: to get your free activation when you use the promo 127 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: code Ben. Just go to Patriotmobile dot com slash Ben, 128 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: Patriot Mobile dot com slash Ben, or call them right 129 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: now and make the witch nine seven to two Patriot. 130 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: That's nine seven to two Patriot, nine seven to two Patriot. 131 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: The media has already started to write the obituary earlier 132 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: today MSNBC. It helped because he's been dead for three 133 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: d very true. 134 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: They said on I want you to listen to his 135 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: clip because it's an interesting clip. And they said on 136 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: MSNBC they're so ready to be done with him. They said, 137 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: Joe Biden obviously as COVID and they said he is 138 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: quote self isolating, both medically. 139 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: And politically. 140 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: Listen, get up the dat though with what's happened happening 141 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: in Milwaukee. 142 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: Also what you're hearing from the Biden campaign. 143 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll start with the Biden campaign, Joe, and exactly 144 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 4: right about the sequencing. So on your air, I talked 145 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: about the fact three weeks ago that there was an 146 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 4: effort among top Democrats to give President Biden the chance 147 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 4: to walk off the stage. They said, he is proud, 148 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: he's stubborn, we love him, we appreciate him, we want 149 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 4: to give him the chance to walk off the stage. 150 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: President Biden, in the view of these top Democrats, did 151 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: not take the hint and the way that one top Democrat, 152 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 4: someone very close to the West wing, put it to 153 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: me Sunday as I sat here on the floor of 154 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 4: this hall with my laptop doing reporting at the Republican 155 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 4: Convention about what was happening in the Democratic Party. They said, 156 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: we don't want to humiliate him. That was the effort. 157 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: Then we saw this sequence yesterday and is my brilliant 158 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 4: colleague Zach Bossu puts it at the top of Axios 159 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: this morning. President Biden is now self isolating, both medically 160 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 4: and politically. 161 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's an obituary to his entire career. 162 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: And he says, what we've seen, Let's talk about what 163 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: we've seen. Every aspect of the Democratic Party has now 164 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: run him entirely, turn on him completely. Yep, you've got 165 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: the Clintons. They're saying you're done, the Obama's saying you're done, 166 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: Schumer saying you're done, Pelosi saying you're done, Jeffreys saying 167 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: you're done, Holly media saying you're done, the donors saying 168 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: you're done, Hollywood saying you're done. 169 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: Everyone, How the hell does this guy? He won't survive this, 170 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't. 171 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: And look, you and I we predicted this ten months ago, 172 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: and then the night of the debate. You and I 173 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: did a podcast the night of the debate, immediately after 174 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: the debate, and I said that night, Biden's done. 175 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: He is no longer the nominee. He will be chased out. 176 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: It'll take a few weeks for it to happen, but 177 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: this is what's going to happen. Why, because the Democrats 178 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: are terrified they're going to lose. Now, it's worth noting 179 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: none of them care that we have a commander in 180 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 3: chief right now with dementia. Has a single Democrat said, well, gosh, 181 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: if he's so mentally diminished, he needs to resign as president. 182 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 3: Nobody said that, not a single Democrat. Apparently they're fine 183 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: with him having his finger on the button. Now, mind you, 184 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: there comes a point where you take the keys away 185 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: from grandpa. 186 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: Yes, but it's even. 187 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: Scary if the keys are attached to ICBMs. Yes, but 188 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: the Democrats aren't doing that. The only reason they're bailing 189 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: on Biden is because the American people in the debate 190 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: saw that and said, holy crap, that man can't tie 191 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: his shoes and we're gonna lose. And they're suddenly protecting 192 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 3: their rear end. Now, when you and I have been 193 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 3: predicting it, people have asked, how does this happen? 194 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: And you go back, go back to Richard Nixon. 195 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: Yep, when Richard Nixon stepped down, listen, he didn't do 196 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: so because he just said, well, gosh, I want to leave. 197 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: He did so because a half dozen old bulls from 198 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: the Senate, old Republican senators, went to the Oval office 199 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 3: and they said, mister president, you're done, and he resisted. 200 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,359 Speaker 3: And let's be clear, they didn't just rely on persuasion. 201 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: They said, if you don't resign, the House is going 202 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: to impeach you and we're going to convict you. So 203 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: you will be removed. And your only choice is do 204 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: you want to do it? Volunteers earlier, do you want 205 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: us to throw yet of office? And that ultimately led 206 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: to the president presidentigning. Now, in this situation, we've seen 207 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: the equivalent of the old bulls, the gray beards of 208 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: the Democrat Party. All of the constituent groups, one after 209 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: the other after the other, go to Biden say get 210 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: out and get out, get out. They initially did so quietly. 211 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: Quietly didn't work. They then have done so more and 212 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: more publicly. And by the way, if Biden were to 213 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: dig in, if he were to say I don't care, 214 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: I'm not going, they have a hammer. Twenty fifth the 215 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: twenty fifth Amendment. I understand how the twenty fifth Amendment works. 216 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: All it takes is the vice president and a majority 217 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: of the cabinet, and the vice president of the majority 218 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: of the cabinet if they sign a letter declaring that 219 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: the president is unfit for office. 220 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: He is removed from office instantly. Instantly. 221 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: Now he can file a letter saying no, I am 222 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: fit for office. And then it goes to Congress and 223 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: it takes two thirds of both houses. But you know what, 224 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 3: Pelosi's turned on him, Schumer's turned on him. The Democrats 225 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: are terrified. 226 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: But accept it is what you're saying. Yes, So let 227 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: me ask you this. If he doesn't drop out, it's. 228 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: Not going to come to that. 229 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: He's going to I don't think it's going to come 230 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: to that. But that's the hammer that they don't want 231 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: to threaten that. And and look the whole line about 232 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: about dignity. They don't want to have to threaten that. 233 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: But he is gone, and and so and and in 234 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: my view, there's lots of speculation about about who the 235 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 3: replacement will be. I believe the replacement will be one 236 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: of two human beings. It will either be Kamala Harris 237 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: or it will be Michelle Obama. Those are the only 238 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: two human beings I believe that will be at the 239 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: top of the take. 240 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: And if Kamala gets it, it's only because of logistics. 241 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: So actually, I think the logistics argument is completely overstated. 242 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: So explain that. Let's let's explain the people the logistics argument, 243 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: the argument that the argument. 244 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: Is well, hold hold on. 245 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 3: Before we do that, let me explain why it's Kamala 246 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: or Michelle Kamala is next in line. Now, a lot 247 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: of Democrats recognize that Kamala has imitations as a candidate, 248 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 3: and so there's some Democrats that are like, oh, what 249 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: are we doing? So you people hear people talking about 250 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom. I think the chances that Gavin Newsom is 251 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: at the top of the ticket are zero point zero 252 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: zero percent. And the reason why it's not complicated the 253 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: Democrat Party is com structurally unable to push aside an 254 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: African American woman and replace her with a white guy 255 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 3: like their party would implode. 256 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: They would. 257 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: I mean you talk about civil wars, they would have 258 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: a civil war with Muskets, like a literal civil war. 259 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: They can't do that, which means all of the names 260 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: bannied about, none of them. You could have a primary 261 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 3: and someone defeats her, but if it's anointing in a successor, 262 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: I don't believe their party can do that, which means 263 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: the only human being on planet Earth who could push 264 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 3: kamalocide is Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama is obviously also an 265 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: African American woman, but an African American woman with much 266 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,239 Speaker 3: higher approval ratings. And I think a much more dangerous 267 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 3: candidate ten months ago, I said, and I still say 268 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: it today. If I were a Democrat, I would be 269 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: all in. I would be begging Michelle because I got 270 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: to tell you, look, sitting here as a Republican who 271 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 3: desperately wants us to win in November. That scares the 272 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: living daylights out of me. If Michelle is the nominee, 273 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 3: it is dangerous and everyone here better understand we're in 274 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: for the fight of our life if it's her. Now, 275 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 3: what is interesting is how much the Democrat Party is 276 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 3: circling the wagons behind Kamala. 277 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: And I think Kamala has risen. 278 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: Is that because it's easier logistically, That's where I asked 279 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: that question, because the money's there, the campaign's there, it's seamless. 280 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: It's just multedash, complete nonsense. 281 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: So people are saying, oh, well, Kamala is the only 282 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 3: one who can access the money Biden Harris's raise, and 283 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: so that's why they'll do it. 284 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: What uttered look, imagine because that's what everybody's saying. 285 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 3: But everyone's saying it, anyone's meaning true. It doesn't actually 286 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: hasn't run a presidential campaign. It doesn't know how things operate. 287 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 3: It's true Michelle Obama can't access the money, and the 288 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:04,119 Speaker 3: Biden calls. What happens the day Michelle Obamas announces the nominee. 289 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm assuming they would start the campaign, start raising money. 290 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: And every Democrat, every grassroots Democrat, every activist, every donor 291 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 3: is suddenly goes from despondency, depression, despair, their resigned crap, 292 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: we're gonna lose, crap's Trump's gonna be president. We're gonna 293 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: lose the Senate, We're gonna lose the House. They're in misery, 294 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: and they wake up and hallelujah, hallelujah. Michelle Obama is 295 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: riding in to save the day. 296 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: And a billion dollars of free press. 297 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: And they would raise a billion dollars within three weeks. 298 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: Every Democrat billionaire goes, holy crap, we've saved the world. 299 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: Get me my checkbook, and we're talking. Michelle would raise 300 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: it in one hundred million dollar chunks. 301 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: There is no money problem. Plus all the free media. 302 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: And the free media, so it is massive. The only 303 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: thing that can save us from that is if Michelle 304 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: says no, and I am praying. Look, Michelle, you and 305 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: I are not close. To put it mildly, but I 306 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: just want to say, man, you got a good life. 307 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: You're kicking back. Martha's vineyard is really nice in the summertime. 308 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: I'm told I don't. I've never been there, but I'm 309 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,359 Speaker 3: told it's nice. Like you're kicking back, You're sipping charnay, 310 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: You're on a yacht, you're on a private jet, You're 311 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: paling around with movie stars. 312 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: People loves you. You don't want to deal with the pesky. 313 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: You don't want to deal with us. You don't want 314 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: to deal with politicians. You can't stand us. 315 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: So just live your life as a movie star at 316 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: a celebrity and don't bother with the gritty mess. 317 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: Now. I don't know if that's persuasive to her or not. 318 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: I will tell you. 319 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: I've heard people say confidently, Michelle doesn't want it. 320 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: Maybe, And here's why I say maybe. 321 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: When they say Michelle doesn't want if they say, well, 322 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: she said she didn't want it, Okay, Well, you know politicians, 323 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: you could always believe what they say, Like when they 324 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: say they don't want something, it's always telling the truth. 325 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: But they don't want it. I don't want it, but 326 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: I do get to be on Air Force one when 327 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: I want it. 328 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 3: So they base it on the fact that Michelle did 329 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: not run in twenty twenty. Well, that's true, but it 330 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 3: is a very different decision to say, do I want 331 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: to run for president? Do I want to spend two 332 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: years going through the muck? Do I want to go 333 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: to mary Do I want to go through every county 334 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: in Iowa? Do I want to go all over New Hampshire? 335 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: Do I want to go all over South Carolina? Do 336 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: I want to raise money? Nonstuff? Do I want to 337 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: spend two years of my life? It is all consuming 338 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: And by the way, Michelle knows it. Yeah, she's witnessed 339 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: trist She went side by side with Barox, so she 340 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: knows exactly what's entitled entailed in that. That is a 341 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: very different decision than a three months, two and a 342 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: half months coornation. Michelle, we will have a coronation, everyone 343 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,359 Speaker 3: will sing your hosannas, we will hand you the nomination. 344 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: You'd give one speech, you'd. 345 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: Do a debate, you do a couple of rallies, and 346 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 3: suddenly you're President of the United States. That there are 347 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: very few people on planet Earth that if you walked 348 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: up and said, Okay, we'll make you president right now. 349 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: All right, we got a studio audience here. How many 350 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 3: of you would say yes if we offered you would 351 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 3: you like to be president? Would you say yes? If 352 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 3: they were okay? Right now, we're getting nods, there's like okay, 353 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: one guy said no, One guy said no, One guy 354 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 3: said no. Out everyone here. 355 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: He lives at Martha's vineyard. By the way, I guarantee 356 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: a guarantee. 357 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: It's an unusual cat that would say no to being 358 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: offered the coronation. So Michelle scares me. But I want 359 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 3: to say something else to Republicans at this convention and 360 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: across the country. Don't get over confident with Kamala everything 361 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: that you just went through. The Democratic Party is in disarray. 362 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: They're depressed, the donors are depressed. They feel like they're 363 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: about to lose. 364 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: I think anybody that gets this opportunity that could be 365 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, will reinvigorate the checkbooks, or reinvigorate the party, 366 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: or reinvigorate every candidate that's down ballot, because it's a 367 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: it's a reset button. I think the bump that we 368 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: get out of this convention could have instantly disappear with 369 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris because of all of the news you're talking about, 370 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: and I think the amount of money she'll raise, but 371 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: I also think the thing is what Kamla is. She 372 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: will also get a billion dollars of free media. The 373 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: media will obsess over her. It changes the race completely. 374 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: Do you agree? 375 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: I absolutely do, and I will say, look, Republicans, people 376 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 3: at this convention think rightly that Kamala is a train wreck, 377 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 3: that she's been an absolute disaster. She's the borders are 378 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 3: except she only went to the border once as vice president. 379 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 3: She and act even go to the Rio Grand Valley. 380 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 3: Everything she's touched had been a disaster. She got clobber 381 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 3: in the Democratic primary. There are lots of reasons to 382 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 3: say Kamala is not very good at this, but you 383 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: made the exact right point. Imagine it with a billion 384 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: dollars of free media, with every media outlet hyperventilating saying, oh, 385 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: she's a combination of Mother Teresa, Oprah. 386 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: And Gandhi all combined. 387 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: Like you will see reporters running after her, throwing their 388 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: panties at her. 389 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 5: And by the way, that's just the men that those 390 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 5: identifies men. Let's be clear about that. Those are identify 391 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 5: as men, right, You never know and nowadays and it 392 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 5: is a dangerous thing. 393 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 3: So listen, I think we beat Kamala, but everyone here 394 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: needs to be aware. We're not just going against Kamala. 395 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: We're going against every corporate media outlet. We're going against 396 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: all of Hollywood. We're going against big tech, which will 397 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 3: elevate everything. They will do everything they can, and their 398 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: narrative will be you know what, they'll say, Biden was 399 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 3: a great historic president, but he got too old. 400 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: We all get too old, and we fixed that problem. Now. 401 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: Now Kamalas is young and vigorous. She smiles a lot, 402 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: she laughs and it drives us crazy. Yes, get ready 403 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 3: to hear that last so often. You're going you're gonna 404 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 3: wake up at nights screaming and hearing the cackle. 405 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 2: They also believe that she's going to bring women together 406 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: for two reasons. One, they're going to make Roe v. 407 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: Wade an issue again and try to really bring feminists 408 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: and women out on that. That'll be a core point 409 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: of her campaign. But two, just the overall history of 410 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: women and breaking the glass ceiling. She also is a minority. Yeah, 411 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: so you would have a minority female who would make 412 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: history while in re engaging women voters in the Democratic 413 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 2: Party and women that maybe are swing voters. 414 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: I think that's actually very, very dangerous. 415 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 3: It is exceptionally dangerous. And let's complicate it a little more. 416 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: If it is Michelle, if it is Kamala, who's the VP. 417 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: It's a great question. I honestly have not thought about 418 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: it much. I say that Here's why. I'm like, do 419 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 2: you pick a man? Do you pick another woman? Do 420 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: you pick someone that's young? Do you pick someone that's 421 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 2: older that's not a threat to you if you don't 422 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 2: do well in four years? I mean, I've been so 423 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: focused on Joe Biden, and I'm going who's on the 424 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: short list? 425 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if they would even know who they're 426 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: short yet. Who do you have? Yeah, so I have 427 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 1: a couple of thoughts. 428 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 3: One possibility that is a real possibility is Gavin Newsom. 429 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: I don't believe Gavin Newsom could be at the top 430 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: of the ticket, but I believe he would be a 431 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: very credible fundraiser VP choice for either either Michelle or 432 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: Commo that that that is a VP choice, and mostly 433 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 3: Newsome comes with with with just a crap ton of 434 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: California monds. And he's a good looking guy. He's smooth, 435 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: he's slick. Gavin Newsom reminds me of the comment about 436 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: Bill Clinton. He's an unusually good liar, and in Democrat 437 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: politics that is a really good tribute. He is a 438 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: gifted and talented liar. Now I've also pointed out I 439 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: consider Gavin Newsom. 440 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: I I want to actually name him. 441 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 3: Texas Realator of the Year because nobody has sold more 442 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: homes in the state of tams than Gavin Newso, I 443 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: mean he could sell homes everywhere in Texas. But I'll 444 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: also point out, all right, so Politico Playbook, which is 445 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: every political junkie reads the playbook. 446 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: It's kind of a. 447 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: Combination of news and gossip from politics. So Playbook right 448 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: now writes about a polling memo circulating among Democratic Party 449 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 3: officials that argues the best chance to defeat Trump is 450 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: with a new nominee independent of the administration, in other words, 451 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: not Kamala Harris. And look, we get that Kamala in 452 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 3: an open field is not the most attractive political candidate 453 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 3: for the Democrats, but I think they're locked into her 454 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: unless Michelle is doing it. But what's interesting is what 455 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: this memo argues, and it says, based on polling of 456 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: who does well against Trump, it says the strongest candidates, 457 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: So this is polling for their presidential nominee, but it 458 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 3: says the strongest potential candidates are, in alphabetical order, Arizona 459 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 3: Senator Mark kellyp Maryland Governor Wes Moore, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, 460 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 3: and Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. 461 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: That's the one that keeps coming in my mind. I 462 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: double women woman ticket. 463 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: Look, that is certainly a possibility. And they're different philosophies 464 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 3: on vps. Sometimes a president picks a VP that is different, 465 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: that that is markedly different. 466 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: Think JFK picking LBJ. 467 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 3: You picked kind of totally different branches of the party 468 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 3: to unififi them. Think Reagan picking Bush That that that 469 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 3: is one. 470 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: Way to do it. 471 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: Other times a nominee reinforces the strength of a candidate, 472 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 3: and think Bill Clinton picking Al Gore. We're both young, 473 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: relatively conservative Southern Democrats, kind of doubling down. 474 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: This is our message. I think there is a chance 475 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: they do that. 476 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: But my guess is I think the Democrats are less 477 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 3: likely to pick two women. I don't know this, but 478 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 3: but I think as I look at it, I would say. 479 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: You got to bet tonight you go with Gavin Newsom. 480 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 3: Or Josh Shapiro and Josh Shapiro is a they don't know, 481 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 3: Okay Shapiro, Josh Shapiro. 482 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: Audience has been Shapiro, not Josh Shapiro. 483 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 3: They will not pick Shapiro, although, boy, that would be fun. 484 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,239 Speaker 3: Can Shapiro? Now that's that's a unity ticket right there, right. 485 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 3: Josh Shapiro is the governor of Pennsylvania. He used to 486 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: be the Attorney General of Pennsylvania. He is widely perceived 487 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 3: as a moderate Democrat. 488 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: He's not very moderate, but he's widely perceived as such. 489 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: He's what passes for a moderate in today's Democrat party. Now, look, 490 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania is a state both sides view as very close 491 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 3: to must win. There are paths to getting to two 492 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy electoral votes without Pennsylvania, but not many. 493 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania is probably the single most contested UH swing state 494 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: in this election. Josh Shapiro is a popular governor, yep. 495 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 3: And a popular governor, and governors you will in that position. 496 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 3: Look it, I think Shapiro would be dangerous. I'd be 497 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 3: surprised if she picked him. But I'll tell you Mark 498 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: Kelly would be a very dangerous candidate. I know Mark well. 499 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: Mark is Look, he's a Navy veteran, he's a former astronaut. 500 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 3: He's a short, muscular, bald guy. And look, it's very 501 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 3: hard to call Mark Kelly a wuss. Yeah, Like he 502 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: seems that there's a reason that he has won decisively 503 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 3: at Arizona. He's also an affable guy, so he seems likable, moderate, 504 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 3: he seems reasonable. His voting record is terrible, but he 505 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 3: comes across as very He comes across like it could 506 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: be a Republican, So I could see. I doubt Mark 507 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 3: Kelly would be the nominee, but I could see him 508 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 3: being in the mix. 509 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: So I would. 510 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 3: Probably say Michelle slash Kamala, and I'd probably give Kamala 511 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 3: the edge right now. 512 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: Yep. 513 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: Part of that may be just wishful thinking. I wanted 514 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: to be Kamala, not Michelle. And in terms of the VPS, 515 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 3: I would say Shapiro, Newsome, Kelly, Whitmer. 516 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 2: Two final questions A do they delay the convention? Number 517 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 2: one and two if they delay the convention, will he 518 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: step down at the convention and then have that be 519 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: the media or does it come out before the convention. 520 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 3: All right, so the appellate lawyer and maybe has has 521 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 3: to say, I love that you asked A and two. 522 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, like like that's that. That's just kind of a 523 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: fun outline. You're welcome. 524 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: Just want just want to mess with you every once, 525 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: want to see if you're selling your game? 526 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: Right? A and B? 527 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 3: Is that better that that is? I like Roman numerals 528 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: and outline and and Z. But I'm not going to 529 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 3: tell you I love ven diagrams. I'm gonna leave that 530 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 3: to say ven diagrams make make my my cold cruel 531 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 3: heart go pitter pat. Look uh that I don't think 532 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: they delay the convention. They might, but I doubt it, 533 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: and they don't. Wait, I think this happens within the 534 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: next week. I think this could easily happen this weekend. 535 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 3: And and frankly, look, the Democrats are small by delaying 536 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: till after this convention. 537 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: This convention got happen and then kill them. A minute 538 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: has been phenomenal. 539 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 3: And the media will treat whoever parachutes in the media 540 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: will treat it as a brand new race, ignore anything 541 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: that happened before. We're brand new, starting over, and so 542 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 3: I think they want to get on with that quickly. 543 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 3: So my prediction, by the way, if you want to 544 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: think about momentous and historic weeks in politics. On Saturday, 545 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 3: the former president of the United States was shot, the 546 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 3: first presidential assassination attempts since nineteen eighty one. Immediately thereafter, 547 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 3: we've had an incredibly successful convention, We've had a vice 548 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 3: presidential nominee named, and it could be within a week 549 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: of that, because I could easily see it being this weekend. 550 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: Joe Biden is off the ballot, and we have a 551 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 3: new Democrat nominee, and there's chatter, there's some of the 552 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 3: pundits that are saying, oh, we ought to have it 553 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 3: been primary wat to have Democrats fighting are gonna happen. 554 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 3: I don't believe that will happen. They will coroinate and 555 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 3: I think it'll be one. 556 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: Of the two ben My bonus question is either three 557 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: or c depending on how you want to enlist these. 558 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: How many times will Kamala Harris or Michelle Obama debate 559 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 2: Donald Trump? 560 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: Once? 561 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 5: It will have one debate, just one debate we will 562 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 5: have one demand. 563 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: Could they get away with saying I'm not going to 564 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: debate now, No, even if it's Michelle. 565 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 3: I think they will do one debate. I think they 566 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 3: will feel like it's not credible if you don't do 567 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: a debate, particularly because. 568 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: If you're Trump, do you push for two? I would, yeah, 569 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 2: but I say it's a reset. We're doing two of 570 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: these suckers before November. 571 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: But I don't think they'll end up doing it. Look, 572 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: I think Trump may well push for two. Part of 573 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 3: the reason if you're a Democrat, everyone concedes. Trump mopped 574 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 3: the floor with Biden. I think it's a Democrat. You 575 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 3: don't want that to be the only debate. If you're 576 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: putting someone new, you'd need something credible. I will tell 577 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 3: you I just came from a meeting that the Jade 578 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 3: Vance met with all the senators. We're congratulating him, and 579 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 3: he did have a very funny thing he shared with us. 580 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: He said, you know, he was talking to to Trump about, well, okay, 581 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: who are we going to face? Is it going to 582 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: be someone new? Is it going to be Kamala? And 583 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: and and and Jad said well, well, look, mister President, 584 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: I said, yes, assuming I got to debate Tambala. If 585 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: they actually bring in someone that's a really good debater, 586 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 3: I may have to rethink this. And Trump said, no 587 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 3: backing out. You accepted the thing. You're stuck. 588 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: You're going anywhere. But look that. 589 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: I I think they'll do it fast. By the way, 590 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: I will point out the night of the debate, when 591 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 3: you and I did a podcast immediately thereafter, we said 592 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: that night, this is the most consequential presidential debate in 593 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 3: American history. And the reason we said that is because 594 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 3: we said, I believe this will change the names on 595 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 3: the ballot in November. And that has never happened. There's 596 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 3: never been a debate that changed the names on the ballot. 597 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 3: And that's exactly what that debate did. It took a 598 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 3: few weeks to play out. But I think it is imminent. 599 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: I think it is within days. 600 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: To everybody that's here in the hall, thank you guys 601 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: for joining us. It's nice to do a show here 602 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: live at the convention. Senator Cruise and I do this 603 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: money was a Friday hit that subscribe auto download button 604 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: wherever you are and I. 605 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: Have how do you subscribe? 606 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: Because because as you know, my dad's eighty five, my 607 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 3: father is my hero. But my father points out all 608 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 3: the time when I use the word subscribe, he says, 609 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: people my generation think magazine subscriptions. 610 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: They think you're gonna charge us, don'cost anymore, doesn't cost 611 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: any money. 612 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 3: And you pull so all right, a line I say 613 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 3: all the time on the trail, I say, if you're 614 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: under forty, subscribe to the podcast. 615 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: If you're over forty, call your. 616 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: Kids or call your grandkids and ask them to help 617 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 3: you subscribe to the podcast. But it's real simple, and 618 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: I see a bunch of young people there know how 619 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: to do this. And like you call your parents, call 620 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: your grandparents and say, okay, give me your phone. Actually, 621 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 3: don't even tell them, just just take their phone. 622 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: And say it's here. 623 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: Pull it up, pull up podcast, hit subscribe and it 624 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: magically appears. You can set it to download. It'll magically appear. 625 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: And it's every every Monday, every Wednesday, it's every Friday. 626 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: And we do this number one. If you subscribe to 627 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 3: the podcast, you know what's happening. We predicted this ten 628 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: months ago, and by the way, nobody else was predicting this. 629 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: We were do we get a. 630 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: Letter from the media when they thought we were moonbacks apologizing. 631 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 3: No, okay, But number two, this is designed to equip 632 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 3: you to give you the tools when you're talking to 633 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 3: your friends, your family, young people, when you're talking to 634 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: your classmates in school and they're arguing, and to give 635 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: you the facts that the corporate media never reports. That's 636 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 3: what we try to do three times a week on 637 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: this is this is what you need to know to 638 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 3: go and persuade and win. 639 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: And I promise we will have an emergency pod if 640 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: and when Joe Biden drops out. 641 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: That's a fair prediction, right, I think that is a 642 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: fair prediction. Grab it wherever you can. 643 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's speech tonight, any any prediction last minute? 644 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: Will he needle Joe Biden? 645 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 3: Look, I think it is going to be substantially tamped down. 646 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: I think Saturday changed the speech. In fact, I know 647 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: Saturday changed the speech that I think prior to Saturday 648 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 3: the speech was going to be quite combative. And I 649 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: expect to see a lot of unity, a lot more language. 650 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: Seeking to bring people together. And look, we've seen this 651 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: throughout the convention. 652 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 3: We talked about we did it, did a live podcast 653 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 3: at the convention yesterday. I talked about when I visited 654 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 3: with President Trump yesterday, and I think Saturday really had 655 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: an impact on him, had an impact. I mean, he 656 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: kind of pulled me aside and said, really quietly, just 657 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 3: said God saved me. And it was it was quiet 658 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: and serious in a way that I think is really consequential. 659 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: And and and listen, I think it's you can't go 660 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 3: through what he went through Saturday, having been shot and 661 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: having been within a half inch of being killed. Amen, 662 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: without really thinking about God Almighty turning his head, because 663 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: I believe that happened. I believe it was divine providence 664 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 3: that turned his head. And had it been slightly one 665 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: way or the other, we would be having a dramatically 666 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 3: different conversation, right. 667 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: No doubt about it. Always a pleasure at the convention. 668 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: Thanks everybody that are here. We will see you back 669 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: here in a couple of days.