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Speaker 1: Titans made a change in their coaching staff on Monday,

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel announcing it at his noon press conference. I

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Speaker 1: had a chance to visit with the head coach for

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Speaker 1: Titans Radio a little bit after this, and here Mike

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Speaker 1: Rabel's comments about his move on the OTP. Mike Rabel.

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Speaker 1: Earlier today at your press conference, you announced that Craig

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Speaker 1: Ackerman has been relieved of his duties as your Special

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Speaker 1: Teams coordinator. What kind of things go into a decision

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Speaker 1: like that on a Monday as you enter week fourteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: The direction in which we need to head, and you know, one,

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Speaker 2: who we are or who we have available to us,

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Speaker 2: and what we feel like they can get done, and

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Speaker 2: how we need to always want to be sound and

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Speaker 2: this instance, just you know, protecting those guys that we

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Speaker 2: our kicker or punter, and you know, I think this

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Speaker 2: is just something that over the course of you know,

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Speaker 2: I think that the season, it was necessary at this

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Speaker 2: point in time, just to make a change.

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Speaker 1: You have Tom Quinn on staff. He's an experienced hand,

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Speaker 1: Who exactly is he and how does he fit in

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Speaker 1: this way for you at this moment. Well, he's done

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Speaker 3: He's been a great teacher.

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Speaker 2: I think he's you know, helped that unit, you know,

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Speaker 2: and I think that there'll be more opportunities obviously going

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Speaker 2: and and bring ideas to us and to me and

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Speaker 2: you know, continue to develop our young players is something

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Speaker 1: Ryan Stonehouse is out for the year. He has been

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Speaker 1: really nice job for this ball club. How much do

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Speaker 1: you have to change as far as your thoughts with

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Speaker 1: Monday night at Miami.

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Speaker 2: Wow, man, I think you have to you know, every time,

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Speaker 2: you you know, have to punt right, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: That's Titans head coach Mike Vrabel. We had recorded a

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Speaker 1: by Titans Radio's Rhet Bryan and also Ramone Foster as

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Speaker 1: Here's my conversation with Rhet Bryan and Ramone Foster from

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Speaker 1: Titans Radio on the OTP. You were very busy on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately or fortunate. We like having you on the broadcast.

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Speaker 1: You are an integral part of what we do. We

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Speaker 4: But yesterday's sideline was the sideline of a team that

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Speaker 1: So you consider all of that, even like the Levis

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Speaker 4: So him going to d hop to me was very

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Speaker 5: Ramon and to piggyback off of that, these are things

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Speaker 5: And into three hours and thirty four minutes this game

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Speaker 5: You just described just a part of it. But that's

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Speaker 4: There it is and what you have to do too.

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Speaker 4: And it happened with me in my second year. I

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Speaker 4: Me and Flozell's conversation had to happen because he was

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Speaker 4: Mike Keith, I'm a better husband and father than I

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you can say to yourself.

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Speaker 4: Three years in the parenthood Rat and Mike, y'all didn't

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Speaker 4: where the progression of this team, to me, has to

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Speaker 3: Then you gotta grow.

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Speaker 4: You gotta understand that Jalen Dunk's gonna be a little

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Speaker 5: Let me say this Ramon and your application, and it

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Speaker 5: certainly applies to the Titans and anybody in a team sport.

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Speaker 5: Two thirds of this conversation have children who were grown

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Speaker 1: as you have the grown children, let's go to being

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Speaker 1: He's learning how to manage this group right now because

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing too, They needed to and they held

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Speaker 3: Because of this. They put the Forest.

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Speaker 4: Strategically, I'm going out him. That's what's supposed to happen

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Speaker 4: Because I knew what he was getting himself into. Sampson

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Speaker 4: While he waited on that sack, he should have been

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Speaker 4: This is growth stuff, wretch. You just said this. You

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Speaker 1: Goat on the OTP.

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Speaker 3: This year do that.

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Speaker 1: Ramon.

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Speaker 5: They had the ball thirty eight minutes twenty six seconds.

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Speaker 5: It went seven to twenty nine of a ten minute

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Speaker 5: Another growth moment for me was why Taj Spears get

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Speaker 1: Uh. It's a teachable moment for him too.

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Speaker 4: It is, and it was a moment that he needed

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Speaker 4: And then we got to go back to these moments

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Speaker 4: Grew up, Yeah, you know, figuring out which wide receivers

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Speaker 1: It was crazy. At one point late in the game,

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Speaker 5: Before you take out the puntch Mike, they had eighty

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Speaker 4: Was, And so give some credits to to Coulton's Dowell

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Speaker 1: asked in pregame when they saw the inactives ninety minutes

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Speaker 1: before the game trailing. Burk's is up. Why is Kyle

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Speaker 1: Colton Dale is going to play a ton at receiver

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Speaker 5: He's mentioned Colton Dowell by name more in the last

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Speaker 4: the middle, but they were doing that very well with

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Speaker 4: the tight ends throughout the course of this game.

438
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Speaker 5: Anyway, let me ask this from a different perspective. He

439
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 5: took a hard shot at Pittsburgh, knocked out cold. And

440
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Speaker 5: I go back to my youth when my sister and

441
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 5: I were in a car wreck with my mother, pretty

442
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 5: severe car wreck, and my dad the next day made

443
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Speaker 5: my mom get back in the car and start to

444
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Speaker 5: drive again because he thought she would have an issue

445
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Speaker 5: getting back to driving and that would be a problem.

446
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Speaker 5: I think that was I think that at least is

447
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 5: a small part of the planning getting back out and

448
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 5: getting reps.

449
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Speaker 3: Yep, same thing happening.

450
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Speaker 4: We uh, me and my wife got t bone in

451
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh on her side of the car and for a

452
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Speaker 4: long time going through intersections bothersome.

453
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Speaker 1: White knuckles very much so.

454
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Speaker 3: So yeah, that is a portion of it. But and

455
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Speaker 3: like I said, y'all, I feel like we get this.

456
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Speaker 4: But the relaying of information into what's actually happening is

457
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 4: a build up to get to a point where this

458
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 4: team is good and sustainable. That's I think the biggest right,

459
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 4: that's the fan base. So speak about the fan base

460
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Speaker 4: ones they want sustainable winning, and sustainable winning may just

461
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Speaker 4: be first second round for a while of the playoffs,

462
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Speaker 4: first second round is get a knock at the SC

463
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Speaker 4: Championship Like that, to me is how you build sustainable

464
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 4: stuff is by building core guys like Peter Skearnsky, like

465
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Speaker 4: having Colton Dowell around Taj getting more.

466
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Speaker 3: Reps, believing that Will Levice.

467
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Speaker 4: Even as a second rounder, is your guy, but also

468
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 4: understanding big Jeff needs help defensively, right, Like however it

469
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 4: takes if you want to get keep the NICO after

470
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Speaker 4: this year, you know what I'm saying, Like these smart

471
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,959
Speaker 4: decisions have to be made. Nobody wants to do what

472
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 4: Tampa's done. I know everybody said, well, I'll definitely take

473
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Speaker 4: the ring. Tampa's dealing with it right now. The RAM

474
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Speaker 4: somewhat deal with it right now. Look at Bills since it.

475
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Speaker 4: I got friends who are Cincinnati fans. You know what

476
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 4: their mindset is right now?

477
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Speaker 3: This is it?

478
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Speaker 4: This has called some Palmer two point zero? Right do

479
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 4: we want that or do we want something long time?

480
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Speaker 1: And you look at Colton and you look at the development.

481
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Colton down for a second seventh round

482
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Speaker 1: pick out of U. T. Martin. Really good program in FCS,

483
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Speaker 1: but still having to come a long way to the NFL.

484
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Speaker 1: It's a long way from FCS to the NFL. You

485
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Speaker 1: draft him in the seventh round. You don't think a

486
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Speaker 1: seventh round pick is going to become your number one receiver.

487
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Speaker 1: If that happens, God Love, it's the greatest thing whoever

488
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: the skyle was.

489
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 3: And he's a budding sometimes.

490
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Speaker 1: But sometimes that guy can become your second receiver or

491
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Speaker 1: your third receiver. Oftentimes that guy becomes a great four

492
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Speaker 1: who plays teams and who ends up with you for

493
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Speaker 1: however many years, and maybe he develops more and goes

494
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Speaker 1: somewhere else to become a two. But the fact of

495
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: the matter is Colton's on the track right now to

496
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Speaker 1: move forward, and they're developing him to get more reps

497
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Speaker 1: at wide receiver. As his confidence grows, becoming a special

498
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Speaker 1: teams player, As his confidence grows, becoming an NFL player,

499
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Speaker 1: the things he can do well now he's doing and

500
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Speaker 1: suddenly he's not the deer in the headlights like he

501
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Speaker 1: was in many camp. I mean in many camp there

502
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Speaker 1: were moments where running the drills, you know, all of

503
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Speaker 1: the basic things, it's intimidating. Now he looks like an

504
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Speaker 1: NFL player, and suddenly, as that confidence grows, he it's

505
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Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to start helping you on offense.

506
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: This is the bigger game that's being played right now

507
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Speaker 1: for this team other than just the game we saw

508
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Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Colts. And if you're listening to

509
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: the OTP, you're interested enough to understand that it is

510
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: a bigger game than probably most fans, because you understand

511
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: that it goes way beneath the surface. And Colton Dial,

512
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Speaker 1: I think, is a primary example of that.

513
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Speaker 4: It's just hard to stomach. Sure, that's what it is.

514
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 4: No one likes to lose, nobody, nobody, And I.

515
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Speaker 3: Much rather see Colton's pathway.

516
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Speaker 4: And I play with a guy, Darius haywor Bay that

517
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Speaker 4: was number one overall pick seventh, six or seventh overall,

518
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 4: and he actually did the opposite. And I love and

519
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 4: respect Heyward Bay. Okay, Darius Hawa Bay, but he went

520
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: from a top ten wide receiver to a monster special teamer.

521
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 4: I must rather be the opposite route. Give me the

522
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Speaker 4: low round guy as a monster on special teams that

523
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Speaker 4: works this way out, become that lunch pel guy. Now,

524
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Speaker 4: what's the one that you live with? I like top

525
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Speaker 4: ten pick Okay, it's cool. It means with trash, but

526
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Speaker 4: I'll take it. But I must rather see my little

527
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 4: round guy turn into a stud special teamer that can

528
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Speaker 4: help this offense in many other ways.

529
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Speaker 3: Are going to be the opposite?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think Red, I think you go

531
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Speaker 1: play offense at some point. I think he's gonna have her.

532
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Speaker 1: You see the skill set in practice, you see the things.

533
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Speaker 1: But now he carries himself like an NFL player in

534
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Speaker 1: training camp.

535
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Speaker 3: He didn't.

536
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Speaker 1: But guess what That's normal. And going back to the

537
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Speaker 1: parent analogy that Ramon Foster made earlier, this is the norm.

538
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Speaker 1: This is a kid growing up in this sequence. And

539
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: it was one year ago today that Amy Adams Strunk

540
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Speaker 1: let John Robinson go. And the reason that she did

541
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Speaker 1: that is because she didn't think at this point we

542
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Speaker 1: were on a championship arc. She thought we had gone

543
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Speaker 1: as far as we were going to go on this arc,

544
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Speaker 1: and so she changed that's the arc. And in doing so,

545
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: you understood internally at least that you were probably gonna

546
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: have to take a step backward, because when things change

547
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: like they did, you have to you have to go differently.

548
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: When you change philosophy, the Colton dal example, the Peter

549
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: Skearronsky example, the Will Levice example. That's exactly what we're

550
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: doing right now. You're changing the arc. Understanding that you

551
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: got a bunch of cap room in this offseason and

552
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: that you've got eight draft picks in building on some

553
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: of these foundational pieces and I mean, again, hard to

554
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Speaker 1: go through, but this is the mindset of all of

555
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Speaker 1: this right now.

556
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Speaker 5: Well, and also understanding the annual deal that is roster turnover.

557
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 5: I mean Titans had what forty seven eight roster turnover

558
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 5: that's before the season, that's right. Yeah, So you know

559
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 5: when you think about that and then couple it with

560
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 5: what you've been talking about, you can go okay. And

561
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 5: the way you set it up makes sense to those

562
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Speaker 5: who are listening to the OTP. Now it's like, wait

563
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 5: a minute, that was a change in landmark right there,

564
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Speaker 5: when John Robinson was relieved of his duties.

565
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Speaker 1: It's been a year, but everybody, but you forget that

566
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: because you just played a game this week. Yeah, and

567
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: I get it, I mean I so get it. I

568
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: was I was crushed Sunday night. I don't know how

569
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: you felt. Usually I was not doing job. How many

570
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: games have we done? We've done a few and normally

571
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: you win, you're happy, you lose, you're sad, but you've

572
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Speaker 1: I mean, we have to go home and go to

573
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: work Sunday night. On the radio shows and the TV shows.

574
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you and I both do the same thing.

575
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: We sit and work the minute we get home, half

576
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: supper and go right to work Sunday night. After the

577
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: Colts game was crushing. It was as difficult a feeling

578
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: as I've ever had after any regular season less because

579
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: I wanted that one. Man, I wanted that one. And

580
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: these guys are out here, they're flying around, they're giving

581
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: it all they have. They make mistakes, bad things happen,

582
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: and yet they keep coming back. And the quarterback's competing

583
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: his butt off, and the running back is just a

584
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: bad actor. Man, he's a tough guy. And Deniko Autry man,

585
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: I get turned on watching him play all the time

586
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: because he's thirty three years old. He's laying it on

587
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 1: the line. And I don't care for the Colts, and

588
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: so I'm like everybody else. I get it. But then

589
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: you wake up on Monday morning and go, okay, back

590
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: to work, and that's what Mike Vrabel has to do

591
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: right now. So I get where the fans are one

592
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: hundred percent from how I felt. But at the same time,

593
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Speaker 1: I don't think you can lose focus on the mission

594
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: right now. And the mission is bigger than this moment

595
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: it is.

596
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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, you still have the bulk of your

597
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 5: remaining games at home, You still have several Division games

598
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 5: at home. There are still tests to be taken, and uh,

599
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 5: you know, some practice and exercise to those exams to

600
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 5: finish this thing out. And if you think for a

601
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 5: minute that Mike Vrabel is gonna let things just fall

602
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 5: to pieces and the I mean listen to him in

603
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 5: postgame yesterday. He was as proud of them as he's

604
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 5: been in some time because of the way they fought.

605
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Speaker 1: Did he accept or like the defeat, No, absolutely not.

606
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Speaker 5: But he saw guys fighting together with one another as

607
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 5: far as they could possibly go.

608
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: Well. And when you make mistakes, when you say, well,

609
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: we were, we were, We've just been a mistake or

610
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: two away from seven to five, it's true. But the

611
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: difference in the NFL and why those mistakes happen is

612
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: you're either not good enough or you're too young or

613
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: both and and that's where But can you take the

614
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: overall and build on it? Can Ramon? Can he take

615
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: and Mike Rabel take yesterday? Can Ran Karthin take yesterday?

616
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: And can they build on it?

617
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: You don't hold your head down in that one, Like

618
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: you said, I was wanting to beat the coat real bad.

619
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: So yesterda and in a good way.

620
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Speaker 4: And we need that, okay, and a lot of different

621
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: because the payoff was of the game.

622
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Speaker 3: It wasn't a bad game. It was a bad moment.

623
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Speaker 1: It was very entertaining. Yeah.

624
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 4: And so here's the thing too, And I knew this yesterday,

625
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 4: and we've been hearing it all year long. Let's let's

626
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 4: compare for a second. Okay, Houston. We've all been hearing. Well,

627
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 4: Houston is doing this, and Houston is doing And I

628
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 4: had to tell somebody on our morning show.

629
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Speaker 3: I was just like, do something for me. Go look

630
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 3: at the roster, Go look at what they've had. How

631
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: they built this up.

632
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 4: They at this point looked like they fleeced he I

633
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 4: mean Cleveland out of those picks because of the DeShawn trade.

634
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 4: They've been bad for a while anyway, so they got

635
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 4: some hot draft picks. They fired two coaches back to

636
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 4: back and gave them both playoffs to leave town. That

637
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 4: right there is a rough life as a fan. They've

638
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 4: somewhat got the payoff with CJ. Stroud and everything, but

639
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 4: they got two tackles, you like, they got a defense

640
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 4: is better than most people give them credit for. They

641
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 4: got people in spots. From where we are right now,

642
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 4: we're comparing. You hadn't been that bad to get to

643
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: this point, okay, to where Houston is. You're still relevant,

644
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 4: you're still competing, and you also understand.

645
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: Directly what your deficiencies are. That's what I'm saying.

646
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 4: As far as where this team is building, when was

647
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 4: the last time you guys have done a little bit

648
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 4: longer than me, just a couple of years, Okay, when

649
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 4: it was the last time that you guys have collectively

650
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 4: and we're talking about building a baseline of expectation moving forward,

651
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: even in a losing year that you've talked about every

652
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 4: single rookie.

653
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Speaker 1: Well and they all play, and they all the draftede

654
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Speaker 1: play offen talk about it, man, I mean, that's the

655
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 1: whole thing. The whole draft class was offense. And then

656
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: you've gotten some undrafted who are course special teamers, and

657
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're doing some different things there. But

658
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: I think one of the contentions that you're gonna have,

659
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: and one of the things that I think is that

660
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: when this year is over, and I hope it's with

661
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: a five game win streak and a trip to the playoffs,

662
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: that's what I fantastic. That would be fantastic. But whether

663
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: it is or whether it isn't, you're gonna walk in

664
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: in early January and you're going to say, we know

665
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: exactly what we have. They're going to know exactly what

666
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: they have. They're going to know exactly what they need.

667
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: They're gonna know. I mean, and listen, the quarterback thing.

668
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: If you've got the quarterback thing solved, which I strongly

669
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: think we're getting a pretty good answer to that, that

670
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: is the major box two. Well, and to understand this too,

671
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen of the jury, whatever understanding what he

672
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: will cost you against the cap in year two and

673
00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: year three if he's the dude. You know all stuff

674
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: about all these guys who went so high in the draft.

675
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: It's one thing, but for him, you'd have pay him

676
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: in year four if he's the dude, But for two

677
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: years the talent, you can stockpile around him, just like

678
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: Seattle did with Russell Wilson, just like what New England

679
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: did with Tom Brady. The people you can keep, the

680
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: people you can sign. I mean it's a big deal.

681
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: Just start there, and I mean that's that's a very

682
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: exciting thing going forward.

683
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 4: It gives you a moment to breathe is what it does.

684
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 4: You're not chasing anymore, You're not sary And of course

685
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 4: if his leves that mean there's no Tannehill. Let's take

686
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 4: some of that cap. Let's really think about what we're

687
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 4: getting ourselves into, Like you can really navigate an off

688
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 4: season to really set yourself up for not just now. Again,

689
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 4: I'm missed the long term success of this team, and

690
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 4: I guarantee you that's what ran miss Amy Rabel the

691
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 4: ones that get it no.

692
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: And I think it's Seattle model. I mean, how good

693
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: were the Seahawks with Russell Wilson on a rookie deal,

694
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: with the legion of Boom? With the legion of Boom,

695
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean ten years?

696
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

697
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 1: How many Super Bowls they go to? Two? Right? Two?

698
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: How many should they have won? Two? I mean would

699
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: you take that? Because suddenly you can resign the really

700
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: good players. When Peter Scaronsky's contract comes up, no problem,

701
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: we got money for him. You can also plan for

702
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback with You could say, okay, and you're four,

703
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to pay him this, and we could

704
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: potentially structure a contract in this way and we can

705
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: have other contracts ending. You know. It's the it's the

706
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: beautiful mind thing. But you're able to do it early.

707
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: I mean this offseason the Titans didn't have much money.

708
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: They had to roll the dice on some middle, middle

709
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: of the road free agents, some balling on a budget. Mike,

710
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: they were bawling on a budget. I mean, Dillard unforetually

711
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: didn't work out, but some other guys have, you know,

712
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: and and that's the way you play it.

713
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: But it might even there.

714
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: The dealer conversation, right is a high one, even the

715
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 4: understanding of what you were getting yourself in. So Philly

716
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 4: draft him, So hey, we'll take Philly at his word.

717
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 4: He was your type of player. But you know what

718
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 4: Ran and coach Rabel in the front office money people did.

719
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 4: We'll signs you a three year deal. The way it

720
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 4: breaks down to me always is my model. If it's

721
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 4: a four year deal, you get in two. If it's

722
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 4: a three year, you get one, you got an exit.

723
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 4: They have an exit. If they won't, that's try it.

724
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Speaker 1: So it's a you take a chance and you understand.

725
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: You know, people think you're in you've invested thirty something. No,

726
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: you haven't really done that. And if it had worked,

727
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: you got a bargain. Well, I mean you've won ten

728
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: thousand dollars off a dollar scratcher. Yep, you know. I

729
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: mean that's the that's what happens in that instance. If not,

730
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 1: you move on and you know, and if it's duncan,

731
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got ten thousand dollars off a dollar scratcher.

732
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: And that's the biggest thing in our conversation that just

733
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: keep thinking about is you have six rookies who have

734
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: played significant amounts of football and a handful of undrafted

735
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: and all of those guys are getting their education. To

736
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: go back to your parenting application, they're all getting at

737
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: education right now that could pay some nice dividends in

738
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and forward.

739
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 4: The cornerstones are there and around. I think we know

740
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: Jeff's there. I think we know Peter's there, Levice is around.

741
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 4: You are MONI still like there are some pieces in

742
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 4: place that you feel very comfortable about addressing the defense

743
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 4: is something that has to be done at some point.

744
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 4: We understand you cannot let Jeff be the only one.

745
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 4: Sure you know it's all there for the taking. It

746
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: really is, and it's hard to tell fans you know

747
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 4: that don't have the information and conversation until that. We

748
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 4: do like it'll get greater if you trust this method.

749
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: Just looking at the base year one of what this

750
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 4: new tenure has done.

751
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: Well, Amy Adams Strunk saw it. She knew that they

752
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: would have to pay some prices in twenty twenty three

753
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: for some cap things and some contracts rolling off. She

754
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: understood that. She also knew in twenty twenty four. I

755
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: mean it's eighty million plus clear money and they won't

756
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: spend it all. I mean they won't have to spend

757
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: all up to the cap. I mean they will be

758
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: able to be able to work deals through the next

759
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: few years that give them the chance. Because she'd allowed

760
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: to be rollover, she her feeling was as the as

761
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: the owner. They had come to the end of a time,

762
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: and one year later, I think we see it. I

763
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: think we see what she thought, and that is now

764
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: it's time to roll into the next period. We have

765
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: some time where if everything had worked out great, this

766
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 1: team's probably seven and five right now. It didn't. So

767
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: this team is four and eight, and next year you're

768
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: gonna have some things that have a chance to go

769
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: a lot better, a lot faster, because you can fit

770
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: things in to get right back to not only competitiveness,

771
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Speaker 1: but contending potentially.

772
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Speaker 4: That's the worse you went toe to toe with the Colts.

773
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 4: Jacksonville was good till late, and you got to see

774
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 4: what Houston's gonna present until you all saw we're just

775
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 4: talking about the divisional games, right And if that's where

776
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 4: we are where we are, then I much rather live

777
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 4: in that world knowing it's got to get better.

778
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: The next year is the com.

779
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: What's gonna get better? Yeah, I mean, because you're gonna

780
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: go get better players, and the players that you have

781
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: will be better.

782
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 4: And the one team that of course made you target

783
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 4: number one is offseason the Colts. They got hardly any

784
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 4: reps with their franchise quarterback moving forward too.

785
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: Well, that's the interesting thing about them, Ratt, is if

786
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson's the quarterback, now, the Colts have a better

787
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: overall team, because like Houston, they've been down so they've

788
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: drafted well and they've invested money. I mean, their fifty

789
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 1: three is very good, but if Richardson's the quarterback right now,

790
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: they probably don't have as good a record as they

791
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: do with Menshew, a veteran quarterback right now. And so

792
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: next year, I think they're going to playoffs. This year,

793
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: because you look at their schedule, I think they're going

794
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. But next year there could potentially be

795
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: a regression as Anthony Richardson has his full rookie year

796
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: as their starter. Instead of being probably five and seven

797
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: with Richardson right now, they're seven and five.

798
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 5: Might to your point, let's talk about the other division

799
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 5: team that we've been mentioning in Houston.

800
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Speaker 1: CJ.

801
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 5: Stroud has done very well, but as defenses get more

802
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 5: film on him, he will have his challenges and it's

803
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 5: whether he makes the counter adjustment or not. That's what

804
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 5: we're going to see this and I'm not wishing it

805
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 5: it will towards c J.

806
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: Strouds.

807
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: Fact, this is what happens. Yeah, it is.

808
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 3: It's how the league works. The more tape you get

809
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: out there.

810
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 4: The same way we spoke about Jalen Duncan, like I

811
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 4: knew the sack was gonna come at some point, Like

812
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: he's giving up an ample amount of space between him

813
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 4: and the rusher. You can't give a two way go.

814
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 4: But you know where you learn that in reps? You

815
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: learn that in messing up in tape. You learn that

816
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 4: in Hey understand that, like this is my strong suit.

817
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 4: I can't square a guy up. I need to attack

818
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: a guy. You know what I'm saying, Like tape matters

819
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: in his league red to your point, CEJ Stroud's tape

820
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 4: is gonna expose a lot. And I'm sure Jacksonville coaches,

821
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 4: Titans coaches, and coach coaches are gonna go in a

822
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 4: dark room this offseason. How do we break them down

823
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 4: the same way they gonna attack Will Levis and try

824
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: to keep everybody else that they keep down.

825
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: Also, you know it happens, it does. It's always game

826
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: on with Duncan Soil. Grab a coffee and kick off

827
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: the action. Whether that's drinking a cup of coffee on

828
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: your way to the game or grabbing one go before

829
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: watching the game at home. Duncan is always there to

830
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: help you get your game on. Just like the pros.

831
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: We need to be at our best come game time.

832
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: Which is why Duncan is the most important part of

833
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: your game day ritual. It's always the best call for football.

834
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: America runs on Duncan, Ramon Foster, Brian, you made me

835
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: feel better. You've got me ready to go to Miami

836
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: next week. Thank you, well, thank you. This has been therapeutic. Yeah,

837
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: I was a little I was a little down, but

838
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: you've reminded me. You've reminded me of of why I'm

839
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: generally optimistic. It's the season to be thankful and grateful. Well,

840
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: we're thankful and grateful all the time. We're glad to

841
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: be here, always have been for a long time, and

842
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: we will continue to be And I think the I

843
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: think the pain of Sunday night was a reminder of

844
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: how much you wanted And there's nothing wrong with that.

845
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 4: This team was in it. It's not like you rolled over.

846
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 4: You lost Derek, you lost Big Jeff, you lost a

847
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 4: numerous amounts of guys this week and you still compete it.

848
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: If for anything, that's a positive going into that Sunday

849
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 4: night that you said, well, that great mic was this.

850
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 4: This team kept it close in a game where Jeffers

851
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 4: Simmons was out for the majority of the third and

852
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 4: fourth quarter. Derek left the game also, and they had

853
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 4: to scheme up two block punts to win the game.

854
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 4: Imagine that that was a schematic situation. And you still

855
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 4: lost by three in overtime. You're not that far away.

856
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 4: You caught some bad breaks well.

857
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: And the other part of it too is they fought

858
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: and you're you're portion about early on this edition talking

859
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: about the sideline being like it was. Yeah, the sideline

860
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: being alive. That's good stuff. That's what you That's what

861
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,240
Speaker 1: you want to have happen. Is you want a live

862
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: sidelined because and a live sideline is into it believes

863
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: and it's pushing.

864
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 4: It is And it also kills that narrative that some

865
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 4: people ask me when I'm out in gyms on the

866
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 4: road on the radio, who's very well lost this team?

867
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Speaker 4: You don't lose a team of what I saw on

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Speaker 4: the sideline. Everybody's in on winning. Losing sucks. Nobody wants

869
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 4: to collect the check and lose. It's much better when

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00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 4: you win. And what I saw on the sideline Sunday

871
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 4: was guys adamantly going at each other. Coach is coaching

872
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: up hard. I saw coach Charles London this is another

873
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 4: thing I did not mention. I saw coach Charles London

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00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 4: after Levis through the touchdown and the end zone, run

875
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 4: over to Tannehill and fist bump him. So to me,

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00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: there had to have been some level of involvement where

877
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 4: Tannehill saw something that relate to coach London and said, hey,

878
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 4: do this, this is there, don't You don't find a

879
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 4: coach sprinting to Tannehill to fist bump them unless everybody

880
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 4: is involved in on the win, everybody in on the culture.

881
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 4: So I like to kill that narrative right here, right

882
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 4: now for the people listening to OTP right now. Your

883
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 4: head coach hadn't lost the locker room. You've lost some games,

884
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 4: you've lost some bad moments, But the fact that he

885
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 4: doesn't have a gripping heartbeat on what's going on. I

886
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 4: saw him sitting down with the offensive line with a tablet,

887
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 4: coaching up. You know, guys on the sideline with the

888
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 4: old line. He's a defensive guy. So to say he's

889
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 4: not in touch, in tune or nobody listens to Rabel,

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Speaker 4: that's a lie.

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Speaker 1: Everybody listens to you.

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Speaker 3: Guys. Got me tapping my feet over.

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Speaker 1: Ready to go in. I can get you a corner,

894
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Speaker 1: I can give a red, could get us a play.

895
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Speaker 1: What Blain Bishop said, I said, I could give you

896
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Speaker 1: a play. I know the feeling for Ret Brian and

897
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Speaker 1: for Ramone Foster. I Mike Keith, thanking you for listening

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Speaker 1: to the O TPH