1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by Draftings. I'm Garrett Downing. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm joined by Clifton Brown today and players are going 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: to be back in the underarmed Performance Center later today. 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: It's the beginning of the team's voluntary off season conditioning program. 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: This is kind of like the first day of school. 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Guys coming back from their hometowns in the off season 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: where they spend their off season of vacations, all that, 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: and they're back in the building today. It's always a 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: day that brings energy around here. 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: Really is. 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: I mean players, that's what's all about. You know, guys 12 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: who make it all happen. And yes, this time of year, 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: even though it's not under the bright lights and on Sundays, 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: it's very important, particularly for young players who are trying 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: to build their careers, you know, who've gotten their feed 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 3: up under them as far as being NFL players. Now 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: they're trying to take the next step in the league. 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: And we see a lot of guys as a cliche 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: is but yeah, from year one to year two, year 20 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: two to three, their careers just take off that you know, 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: some guys you know don't and some guys do. And 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: the work that you put in away from the building, 23 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: but now in the building has a big plays a 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: big role in whether that happens for you or not. 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: It just to take listeners kind of behind the scenes 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. You really can feel a difference when 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: there's players in the building. And I'm not talking about 28 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: a couple of players who spend the off season here, 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: like since the season ended. There's always a few guys 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: that stick around town and just prefer to live here 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: and work out here. 32 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 4: But when, like when there's a. 33 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: Large group, when when the majority of the team is 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: back in the building, which is how it's going to 35 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: go during these workouts, you just feel a difference everyone, 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: Like there's more energy and it's all this thing all 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,919 Speaker 1: revolves around the players and then being here and working 38 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: towards the season and the goals like and so when 39 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: when guys are here, they're working out, they're they're pushing 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: each other, like you feel that, and I think it's 41 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: all it's all it's all fun to be part of. 42 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: And uh, it's kind of there's gonna be lots of 43 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: starts to the season OTAs and mandatory camp and then 44 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: training camp and then week one like we're gonna call 45 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: like ten different things to start of the season, but 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: this is the first official activity of the twenty twenty 47 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: five calendar for this team. Now it's all voluntary, so 48 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: in terms of what it is and what it's not, 49 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: there's no practice going on right now. They're not throwing 50 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: on shoulder pads and a helmet and getting. 51 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: Out there yet. 52 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: That's for later. But what they're doing right now is they're 53 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: getting in there, getting in the weight room. They can 54 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: spend time in the classroom, and they're working towards the 55 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: season and they're building up physically. 56 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 4: And I think that. 57 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: It's again it's totally voluntary, right, So we don't know 58 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: who's gonna be here and who's not. Some guys choose, 59 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: especially veteran players in particular, often choose to work out 60 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: at home right wherever they want to live during the 61 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: off season. But there's gonna be a number of guys 62 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: here and it's I enjoy this time of the year. 63 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: Right And yeah, I mean it builds up to me 64 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: at a certain level of camaraderie too, Like guys who 65 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: see other guys here, Yes, it's like they're talking. You 66 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: build bonds, and it's another step in turning the page 67 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: from the previous season, like when you come to the 68 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: building after being away for weeks or months, whatever the case. 69 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: I think it's more of a sense of the next 70 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: season has really begun, no matter how quickly you did 71 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: or do not put the end of last season behind you. 72 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: It's a fresh start. Everyone's starting fresh. And yes, the 73 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: word you use energy, I think that is the best 74 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: way to describe it. The pulse picks up when players 75 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: are in the building. 76 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: So Cliff and I put together a list of players 77 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: who we think really stand a benefit from these offseason workouts. Again, 78 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: it's all voluntary, so we don't know who's going to 79 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: be here or not. But these are players where I 80 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: think this offseason is really important for it can stand 81 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: to benefit from this from these offseason workouts. So the 82 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: first one that I'll point to, just to kick off 83 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: the conversation is the first round pick from a year ago, 84 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins. I mean, I thought he had a great 85 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: rookie season. I think somebody who's whose potential is through 86 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: the roof, his ability was on display, and as the 87 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: year went along last year, he just was playing more 88 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: and more and I think he was playing his best 89 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: football at the end of the season. So I think 90 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: Nate has like pro Bowl potential. Just take away one 91 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: side of the field and be a lockdown corner Like 92 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: that's how good I think he can be. And when 93 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: he came into the NFL, a lot of the conversation 94 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: was how can he hold up physically? He's a leaner cornerback, 95 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: cornerback and putting on wad, getting in the weight room, 96 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: all that stuff, And I thought that he over delivered 97 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: and a lot of those questions like he was more 98 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: physical and I expected him to be when the Ravens 99 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: first drafted him, like he was a physical player, and 100 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: so I think that was all that was all good, 101 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: and now you just take it to another level going 102 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: into year two. 103 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: So how is how does he look? What's his way? 104 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 4: How does like what's his routine? Has diet? 105 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: All that stuff that a lot of young players learn 106 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: and develop. I think that'll be really important for him 107 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: during these offseason workouts. 108 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: Right. 109 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: I agree with everything you said. The learn he learned 110 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 3: about being NFL player last year. No matter how talented 111 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: you are, and he is tremendously talented. He had never 112 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: been during the NFL season. Now he has. Now he 113 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: knows certain things that he wants to focus on. And yeah, 114 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: everyone talked about his body, you know, being lean and 115 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: how physical would he be. That was the question mark 116 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: coming into the league. Everyone knew he could cover and 117 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 3: he was gifted in that area. But yeah, he showed 118 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: a willingness to stick his head in there at any time. 119 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 3: And yeah, if he adds the more muscle to his frame, 120 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 3: it can only help him as a player. The things 121 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: that he can already do, a lot of them can't 122 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: be taught. And so yes, when you see a player 123 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 3: like that similar to cow I am than me that 124 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: you see the potential is there, and this to me, 125 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: this offseason will be another step towards him hopefully maxing 126 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: out on that potential. 127 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: Like Nate Wagness is never going to look like Jimmy Smith. 128 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: They're just built different, and so he's always going to 129 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: be a leaner cornerback. But he was a super young 130 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: player when the Ravens drafted him. Still is a young, 131 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: really young player, and so like he's twenty one years old, 132 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: and so he's just going only going to physically develop 133 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: mature and and that's what like the again, like the 134 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: cliche is get a year in the NFL weight room 135 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: and see and see how much better you are. I 136 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: think that's that's what we're going to see, right And 137 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: so he's going to get that year under his belt 138 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: of a full offseason program. You're not training for the draft, 139 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: You're just you're just getting this NFL experience of an 140 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: NFL strength and conditioning program in the weight room, and 141 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: I think that's only going to help him and really 142 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: maximize his ability. 143 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: Yet again, I think the sky is. 144 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: A limit for him this year, and I'm really encouraged 145 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: and excited to see what he can do. The second 146 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: guy little point too. Let's just stay with Clemson. We 147 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: Clempson to Clemson here and now points Trent Simpson. This 148 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: is a big year for him, absolutely, and he's a 149 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: guy that I think he often will live in the 150 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: weight room, and this is one of the hardest working 151 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: guys that you're going to find. And I just think 152 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: that going into this year, putting himself in position to 153 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: take elite from year two to year three is going 154 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: to be is important. 155 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: For him without a question. 156 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: And you know you mentioned how him being in shape 157 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: and working hard is never going to be an issue. 158 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: That's just who he is. 159 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: I think, particularly at any position, but definitely at that position. 160 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: Film work and being able to know what's coming before 161 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 3: it happens is so important even a great player. The 162 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: player he's playing. Actually, Rokwand Smith is a great player. 163 00:07:55,040 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: Part of Rokwand's greatness is his ability to read what 164 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: the offense wants to do even before the ball is snapped. 165 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: That puts him like two steps ahead of some players 166 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: on the field, always moving in the right direction, never 167 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: wasting any steps. That's the level that Trenton wants to 168 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: get to, and sometimes that can only happen with more 169 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: playing time. But this year he needs to try and 170 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: make sure that from the jump, first of all, he's 171 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: on the field as the starter next to Rokwan, that 172 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: he's playing as many reps as possible, and that he's 173 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 3: learning from that game experience. You know, last year his 174 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: playing time went down as the season went on, and 175 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: I know he was disappointed about that. I think this 176 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 3: year he comes back with fury and if he can 177 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 3: take that next step, not only physically but cerebraly, then yeah, 178 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 3: I mean he's a player with. 179 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: A lot of talent. 180 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And coach Arbau mentioned that Patrick Queen, it took 181 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 3: him a few years to really bring an instinctive level 182 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 3: played that position where he was just not thinking, just playing. 183 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully we'll see that, Trent and get down that. 184 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 4: I could totally see that. 185 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: And the player who I think is kind of in 186 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: a similar boat, different paths. But the third guy little 187 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: point too, is Andrew Vorhees, another guy going into his 188 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: third season. 189 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: Now. 190 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: Of course, the big difference was before he has dealt 191 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: with the injuries rookie season that was the red shirt year. 192 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: Then it comes back last year. I mean, this guy 193 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: has been like living in this building since the day 194 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: he was drafted, Like he's one of those guys that's 195 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: that's been I feel like he's been in the building 196 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: every single day since the day he was drafted and 197 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: working physically, was trying to get healthy from the knee 198 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: injury that he suffered, you know, back at the combine, 199 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: coming into the draft, and then and then just going into. 200 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: Last year like all that. All that. 201 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: So he earns the starting job coming out of camp 202 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: last year at left guard, ends up getting hurt, the 203 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: Ravens move Patrick McCarry into that starting spot, and then 204 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: McCarey just now lost the job. He held on to 205 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: that spot the rest of the season and where he 206 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: was the odd man out on the offensive line. And look, 207 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: he's got a chance now to go and earn a 208 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: starting job again. And I think that he's the favorite. 209 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he. 210 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: Was the favorite I think last year to some degree 211 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: when we were having this conversation, but now that he's 212 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: got some starting experience under his belt and he I think, look, 213 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: it's good to learn you get real game reps. It's 214 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: also good to I think it's good to learn like 215 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: cal Fragile can be like he got hurt, someone stepped 216 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: in and ended up seizing that that job and opportunity. 217 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: So I think that this is just another opportunity for 218 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: him to kind of build a foundation for himself being 219 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: even further removed from the injury, to make sure that 220 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: he's in coo position to go out there and copete 221 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: for that starting job. 222 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: Yes, I feel very good about Voerehees's chances to reclaim 223 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: that starting left guard spot. He's already done it. He 224 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: did it last year and then, as you mentioned, the 225 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: injury changed things for him, and you know, you know, 226 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: maybe the Ravens don't even make that decision not to 227 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: put him back to the starting lineup. If Am McCarry 228 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 3: didn't play so well and had more experience, and if 229 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 3: the line had more experience, I mean they were already 230 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: starting for a first year starter Rosengarten, first year starter. 231 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: Now voorhees first you would have been a first year starter. 232 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: Maybe McCarey. We need a little more experience from a 233 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 3: guy who's playing well. So Yeah, the coaches I know 234 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: are very high on Voyhe's he I think now it'll 235 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: be less of a transition for him competing for a 236 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: starting job, and he showed that he can handle that 237 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 3: smoke that the job was open he wanted. I feel like, yeah, 238 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 3: he looked probably looks at it like it's still my job. 239 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna reclaim it. 240 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 241 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: And the fact that mcarry stepped into that role and 242 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: ended up winning the job, that's not an indictment on Voye's. 243 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: Like McCarey, wyn got a nice and free agency. He'd 244 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: already gotten a nice contract from the Ravens previously. 245 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 4: So this is a. 246 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: Veteran player who's been paid a lot of money by 247 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: NFL teams in his career, and to to lose out 248 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: on the job to him after he got hurt, I 249 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: don't I think says more about McCarry than it says 250 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: about Vorheas. And so now he's got this chance to 251 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: again go out there and compete and put himself in 252 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: composition from the early going to be in be in 253 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: a spot where he can go win that job, right 254 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: and and I think that he's going to do that. 255 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: And again, I mean, this is a guy that that 256 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: that he works really hard and he's diligent, and I 257 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: think he's going to be you know, he's kind of 258 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: the first guy in lastka at. 259 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: Mentality, remember that, you know, the whole combinding, he got 260 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 3: injured at the combined. 261 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Still still the bench ress reps. 262 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 4: So like this guy. 263 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: This guy is not afraid to get in the weight 264 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: room like no doubt about. 265 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 4: And he's tough all right. 266 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: Next the next Uh, it's actually two guys, but I'll 267 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: put him in the same category here that I'll point to. 268 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: It's the two rookie safeties from a year ago, Sanoosey 269 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: Kane and Bo Braid. I've just kind of lumped them 270 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: together in the same in the same category. There both 271 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: end up making the roster last year, both basically similar roles. 272 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: They were special teams players as rookies and that could 273 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: likely be the path for them again this year. But 274 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: the Ravens have talked about wanting to find more of 275 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get another safety in the mix, and 276 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Eric Tacosta said that they will draft a safety this year. 277 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: That's the expectation that they're going to use the safety 278 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: on one of their eleven draft picks. How early that 279 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: remains to be seen. But let's just say they go 280 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: and they draft a third round safety, Like, does that 281 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: third round safety definitely have the advantage to get defensive 282 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: snaps over Sanoosie Kane or Bo Braid. 283 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 4: I don't think. 284 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: So have to go earn it, have to go earn it, 285 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: and so it's going to be a competition between those guys, 286 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: and so I think that both those players have a chance, 287 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: depending on what the Ravens do in the draft, to 288 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: carve out a defensive role for themselves in addition to 289 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: playing really important reps on special teams they do. 290 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: And listen to you talk, I was thinking of Gino Stone, 291 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 3: a guy who was a similar seventh round pick. Yep, 292 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: you know, Sanoosie seven round Bo making the squad as 293 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: a free undrafted free agent guys who definitely didn't. 294 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: Walk in knowing, oh I have a job sewing up. 295 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: They had to work for everything and that that's a 296 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: position again, a lot of a lot of thinking, making mistake. 297 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: There can be six points. I think the more experience 298 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: you have that year that they had Sanousie and bo 299 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: is definitely going to help them next year. 300 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean. 301 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: That if the safety they draft won't win out, but 302 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: they'll they'll be a step ahead of that person. Being 303 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: in this system for a year, they saw all that 304 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: went on in the secondary last. 305 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: Year too, the good, the bad, all of it. 306 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: How the coaches react, how the players reacted. That's a 307 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: valuable for a team that was in continent for Super Bowls. 308 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: You know, we're not talking about a team that's you know, 309 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: you're both a young guys. So those guys, Yeah, we're 310 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: going to see how much they've grown Sinoo CMBO from 311 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: year one to year two. It's going to be really interesting, 312 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: particularly if it's not a first round safety that whoever 313 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: that person comes in the draft of safety, I can 314 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: see one of those guys beating them out. If they 315 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 3: show enough, they show enough growth, it could happen. 316 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not ruining out that possibility at all. And 317 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: the Ravens like those guys, and again they cut their 318 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: teeth on special teams, which you bring up genostone similar path. 319 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: Prove yourself on special teams, make plays in practice, make 320 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: plays in preseason games. Okay, I guess we'll give this 321 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: guy a chance. Our Darius Washington special teams look good 322 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: in practice, preseason games. Okay, we're looking to mix things 323 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: up here in the secondary. Marcus Williams was struggling. Let's 324 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: put our Darius Washington back there. Okay, he proved himself. Like, 325 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: if you play well enough and you prove yourself, then 326 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna get your opportunity here will even if even if, 327 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: like a guy in front of you is either higher 328 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: draft pick or a bigger contract, like the Ravens have 329 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: always been a team that values who's playing the best 330 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: right now, that's correct, and so I think that there's 331 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: going to be an opportunity for both of those guys 332 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: this year, regardless of what ends up happening in the draft. 333 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 4: So with that set, we'll take a quick break. 334 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll dive into some of the 335 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: other players who really have a lot to gain during 336 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: these offseason workouts. You're listening to the Lage podcast. We 337 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: are coming to you from the Sea Geek Studio. We 338 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: want to mention our partners at Draftking sports Book. They 339 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: are an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens 340 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: Draftking Sports Book. The crown is yours, all right. The 341 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: next guy that I'll point to, and this is somebody 342 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: who fans love. He's a player that with a lot 343 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: of excitement. That's Keith Mitchell. He's coming back. Go back 344 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: a year ago when we would have been having this conversation. 345 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: He was coming off the really tough knee injury that 346 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: he suffered late in the twenty three season, and he 347 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: played last year, but he was never himself like he 348 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: was never he was never the player that we saw 349 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three pre injury. And John Harrible actually 350 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: said during owners meetings, the fact that he even played 351 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: last year, given the severity that knee injury, was pretty 352 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: remarkable when it occurred. The severity of it. Just getting 353 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: on the field was an accomplishment. And so I think 354 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: that he's going to be in much better position to 355 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: be an impact player this year. And these this workouts 356 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: being healthy like this is huge for him. 357 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 358 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that comment but Coach Horball definitely was interesting. 359 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 3: And that's not the time of comment coaches make during 360 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: the season. They don't want other people knowing, you know, 361 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 3: how injured someone was. But yeah, that injury was really bad. 362 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 3: Happened late last season at a position where you know 363 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: speed is so important, particularly that's that's his super spot power. 364 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: Keep mental to speed. 365 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 3: I'm seeing him as a rookie on the practice field, 366 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: he was just he has a special kind of speed 367 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: in pants that some players just don't have. A lot 368 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: of guys out here can run, but in bads with 369 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 3: the football, they just lose just a little bit. He 370 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: always as that rookie season, all those big plays, guys 371 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: were taking the wrong angle on him because they didn't 372 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: realize how fancy was. 373 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: If he can get back to that this. 374 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: Year, which he definitely did not have when he returned 375 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 3: last year, then again you'll see start seeing big plays man. 376 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 3: And I'm just hoping that, yes, you will see that, 377 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: because I just think he's a great story. 378 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: He's a good young man. 379 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: That injury like that early in your career is really 380 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: it's psychological too. It's not just physical and last season 381 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 3: was tough for him. I think when he worked so 382 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 3: hard to get back, when he got back and didn't 383 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: get a lot of touches and really wasn't right, I 384 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: think it was tough for him. I think that I'm 385 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: really anxious to see hopefully he's, you know, feeling one 386 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: hundred percent. 387 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: And if he is, is he They're gonna find a spot. 388 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: There's not a lot of running back room around here, 389 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 3: you know, with King Henry and Justice around, but they'll 390 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: find play ways to get him on the field. 391 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 2: If he's back to being Keaton Mitchell, Yeah, and. 392 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: If he can take it to the house anytime he 393 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: touches the ball. So that's the thing about him, it's 394 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: like if he's if he's back to that player. And 395 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: when you talk to when you talk to players a 396 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: lot of times when they discuss going through a serious 397 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: knee injury, they say it's a it's a two year recovery. 398 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: The first year just getting back on the field is huge. 399 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: It's the second year where you start to feel like 400 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: yourself right. And like we've heard that from from guys 401 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: like JK. Dobbins and Gus Edwards and like players who 402 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: have gone through that at that position, and so I 403 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: think that he's going to be much in much better 404 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: position to make an impact this year and just build 405 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: off the work behind the scenes. Like this is a 406 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: guy when you talk about guys that are putting work. 407 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: He put in a ton of work just to get 408 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,239 Speaker 1: back on the field and he's continuing that and so 409 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: you want to see a payoff. And he's a really 410 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: did diligent worker, likable guy, and I think this is 411 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: gonna be a big opportunity for him. 412 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 2: All right. 413 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: Another guy, two guys at up point two here, kind 414 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: of another clump, same position, cornerback TJ Tampa going into 415 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: his second season in Jalen Armor Davis. A little bit 416 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 1: different in that Jalen Armor Davis is going in his 417 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: fourth season. This is this is kind of a make 418 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: or break year for him. 419 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: Uh. 420 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: But TJ Tampa his rookie season is similar to what we. 421 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: Have seen from Jalen Armor Davis. 422 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: Tampa coming into his rookie year had had the groin 423 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: injury really sidelined him for the bulk of the season, 424 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: didn't get to see much of him as kind of 425 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: a red shirt year for him last year. But the 426 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: Ravens liked him as a draft pick and felt like 427 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: they got great value. 428 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: For him in the middle rounds. 429 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: A lot of people thought he could be like a 430 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: second round pick end so maybe even cracking too the 431 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: first round. 432 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 4: Ravens get him in the middle rounds. 433 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: So I think TJ. Tampa has a lot of potential 434 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: and this is a big year for him. And then 435 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: and then Jalen Armer, Jalen Armber Davis Raves have really 436 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: liked his potential and talk. 437 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 4: About that over and over again. 438 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: The question for him is health and like the ability 439 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: to stay healthy is critical for him and that work 440 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: is really the foundation of that is built during the 441 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: off season and workouts like this. 442 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely and you know obviously both Armor Davis, particularly him 443 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: and Tampa, it's like, Okay, how many times have they 444 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 3: thought about anything I can do to try and improve 445 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 3: my chances of staying healthy. A lot of it just 446 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 3: has to do with luck and you having it or not. 447 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: But they both know how crucial it is for them 448 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: to stay on the field. That's been the biggest hindrance, 449 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 3: particularly with Armor Davis to his career. It hasn't been 450 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: how he's played, is the fact that he hasn't been 451 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 3: able to play that much, so you know, you keep 452 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: your fingers crossed that both of them will stay healthy. 453 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 3: If they do, then the Ravens cornerback depth goes way up. 454 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,239 Speaker 3: If you have both of those guys healthy, who had 455 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 3: both shown them particularly armor David that if you give 456 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: them reps they can play, then the Ravens are already 457 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: deeper at corner regardless of what they do during the draft. 458 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: So those are two guys. Yes, I agree with you. 459 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 3: It will be really interesting to see what they can 460 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 3: build on this offseason. 461 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just intrigued by Tampa because the Ravens really 462 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: raved about him coming out of the draft, and when 463 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: you talk to some of the draft experts, he was 464 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: like a guy that everyone pointed to, like man, tremendous value, 465 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: great value, great value, and then he got hurt and 466 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: then you just didn't see much of him as a rookie. 467 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: But like, this is a chance, of course, depending on 468 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: what the Raves end up doing in the draft, for 469 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: him to carve out a nice role for himself this year, 470 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: and the Ravens are going to need depth there. So 471 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by what he can bring to this team 472 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: this year. All right, the last guy that will point 473 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: to is and this guy doesn't really have to prove 474 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: himself out. 475 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 4: I think it's a big year for him. 476 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: On a different level, is Travis Jones defensive lineman Michael 477 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: Pierce retires. He's going into the last year of his 478 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: rookie contract. A lot of times we know guys are 479 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: going into that last year of a contract can deliver 480 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: in a big way knowing that there could be a 481 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: nice pay hey at the end of that season. And 482 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: like Travis Jones is a guy like you have to 483 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: keep him out of the weight room like this guy. 484 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: He when I talk about first guy in, last guy out, 485 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: like that is Travis Jones. This guy, this guy was 486 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: spent all day in there, and so he loves the 487 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: side of the year. I'm sure he's one of those 488 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: guys that relishes workouts like this. 489 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it's great. I'm laughing because, like, 490 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: how much stronger does he need to. 491 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: Get, you know exactly? 492 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: I guess not really approve it from that standpoint. 493 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: I don't think there's anybody around here walking around. 494 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he's strong exactly exactly. 495 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, he's a great worker, and yes, this is 496 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 3: a big year, not only for him individually, but with 497 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 3: Peers leaving and the defensive line always being. 498 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: A major part of defense. 499 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a year where Travis Jones could 500 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 3: really make Hey getting a lot of reps, making a 501 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: lot of plays, playing next to a great player like 502 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 3: mad A Bka. Yeah, I mean, the sky's a limit 503 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: for what he can do. We all have seen the 504 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 3: potential and some of the plays he he does make. 505 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: Just doing it more consistently, I think another year of 506 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 3: experience will help. So yes, I mean wouldn't that be 507 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 3: something if he, you know, had a type of breakout 508 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: year that Matta BK had a couple of years ago 509 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 3: or something along that line. Now you're talking really uh 510 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: that uplifting the whole front seven. 511 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: Well, if you were to have that kind of jump, 512 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: I mean back the brink truck up, because I mean 513 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: that's what happened with Matt A. 514 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: BK. 515 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: He in a contract year, had a massive season, and 516 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: he just I think they compare. They're different players what 517 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: they do and what they're asked to do. But I 518 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: think the point on both of them is like Matt A. 519 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: BK if you look at his career, he just got 520 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 4: better every year. Yes, and he. 521 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: Was a little bit raw coming into the NFL, similar 522 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: to Travis Jones and to some degree, and so like 523 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: just get better every year, improve and improve, improve, and 524 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: then and then play some of your best football at 525 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: the right time and get rewarded handsomely. And it's not 526 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: just about a contract. It's also about helping the defense 527 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: and the team be at its best. And and so 528 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: I think that that Jones is in position to do that. 529 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: And yeah, I think it's a good point from you. 530 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: It's not it's not really about getting stronger. We've already 531 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: we've already accomplished that. 532 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: Yes, he's already done that. But it's more about building. 533 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: The foundation for this team and for this defensive line, 534 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: and he's going to be a huge piece of it. 535 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: And also like now you go to this and then 536 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: at this point for him, like in the early part 537 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: of these workouts, like he can be a guy that's 538 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: a tone center and kind of a as a fourth 539 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: year veteran player and Pierce retires, like he can become 540 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: more of a leader in these workouts like this, And 541 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: I think that that's important for a player like him. 542 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: It is. I think that's a good point. 543 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: So those are some of the guys that I think 544 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: we'll keep an eye on during these offseason work outs, 545 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: and it'll be important. Again, this is all voluntary and 546 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: we'll be excited to see these guys back. 547 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 4: In the building. 548 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: We'll have a chance to hear from Raven strength and 549 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: conditioning coach Scott Elliott and players this week, and then 550 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: of course there's something coming up later this week on Thursday, 551 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: I think it is, right, Yeah. 552 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 4: Something like that. 553 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, something going on. So the draft is coming up 554 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: this week and we're really excited about that. We're gonna 555 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: have covers throughout the weekend for that and stay tuned 556 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: because Ryan Mak is gonna be back in him and 557 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: I are doing our full seven round mock draft. I 558 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: might go eleven for eleven this year. I'm holding out hope, 559 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: holding out hope a ball. Yeah, holding out hope for that, 560 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: and that'll be coming up this week as well. So 561 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening, and we will talk 562 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: with you again soon.