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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Calvis, he joins me.

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Speaker 1: We talk rookies. Harris Johnson Junior and the rest of

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three draft class hit the field for

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Speaker 1: the first time over the weekend. When we see what

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Speaker 1: we learn and let's not forget about the undrafted free

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Speaker 1: agent some names to be familiar with. But first, some

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Speaker 1: important news for Paul. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode six

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Speaker 1: forty five, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Bud to Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again.

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Speaker 3: So far hurry Magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Griolud.

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Speaker 1: So glad we waited until Monday to discuss what we

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Speaker 1: are going to discuss. The focus of the show here.

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Speaker 1: But first things first, the news of the day, maybe Paul,

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Speaker 1: the news of the week, maybe for you, the news

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Speaker 1: of the month, and that is the fact that we

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Speaker 1: have a brand new punter on the Arizona Cardinals rostered.

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Speaker 1: There was no punter drafted, much to your disappointment, but

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals did add a punter and a familiar name

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Speaker 1: to those around town. Okay, so we're starting with a

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Speaker 1: snark with a side and with a side of ridicule here.

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Speaker 4: That's cool. You know, there are two positions that you

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Speaker 4: might minimize and dismiss and even make fun of yours

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Speaker 4: truly for emphasizing. That would be long snapper and punter.

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Speaker 4: Except when you get to the regular season and you

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Speaker 4: don't have one, good luck, because it's brutally obvious and

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Speaker 4: it will cost you games if you don't have that

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Speaker 4: punter or that long snapper, two positions that are largely overlooked.

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Speaker 1: Agree with the former, Yes, long snapper we have determined

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Speaker 1: is extremely important.

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Speaker 3: For this franchise.

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Speaker 1: And we'll see if Aaron Brewer gets added to this

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Speaker 1: young prospects at long snapper. But the punter news you

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Speaker 1: have Nolan Cooney from that fine Central New York institution

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Speaker 1: in upstate New York, Syracuse University, and they have added

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Speaker 1: Matt Hawk, the former ASU Sun Devil six year veteran,

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Speaker 1: Dolphin's Bills, and most recently the Colts. This team, despite

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Speaker 1: the very successful season individually of Andy Lee a year ago,

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Speaker 1: might be trying to get younger at that position.

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Speaker 4: Well that's saying at all. I mean, going into last

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Speaker 4: trying to look at the future of that position. There's

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Speaker 4: no question. Matt Hawk, a six year veteran, has played

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Speaker 4: the ability to throw the ball sort of like an

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Speaker 4: Andy lead. There are just go ahead and search it

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Speaker 4: out on the internet. There are a number of videos

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Speaker 4: which is another Andy Lee specialty. Someone comes to field position,

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Speaker 4: he excels at that. He was undrafted out of ASU

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Speaker 4: and he's played six years in the league. You know,

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Speaker 4: definitely he was brought here for a reason by Jeff Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: He has a lot of potential. I think the coaching

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Speaker 4: people already on Twitter responded with well, I think we

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Speaker 4: that is, if he chooses to play, I haven't heard anything.

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Speaker 4: He's yet to sign with anyone, and the same draft

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Speaker 3: Paul, you're twenty in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And look there's something to be said for that.

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Speaker 1: Three positions that no one talks about going into a game,

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Speaker 4: I'm reminded of the words last month that Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 4: So hey, you know what, I think, it's just part

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. So add him to

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Speaker 1: the list of draft picks who is under contract. That

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Speaker 1: It was a much different rookie mini camp during the

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Speaker 1: So that's more than the Cardinals even had players on

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Speaker 1: So you couldn't get too much, but what you did

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Speaker 4: And we've already seen him in some of the charity events.

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Speaker 1: a Kelvin Beacham with Josh Jones, and keep Will Hernandez

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Speaker 1: at right guard where he played a year ago, and

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Speaker 1: you have that veteran to kind of.

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Speaker 3: Help out the rookie.

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Speaker 4: But you know what, you could make a case for

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Speaker 4: any of those three spots. You could say Will Hernandez

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Speaker 4: spent his first four years in the league playing primarily

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Speaker 4: the left guard spot, he's going to move back to

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Speaker 4: left guard. And Paris Johnson Junior two years ago as

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Speaker 4: sophomore year started all thirteen games at Ohio State at

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Speaker 4: right guard, So you could make a case that he's

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Speaker 4: coming in and they're going to flop those two guards

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Speaker 4: and Paris Johnson's gonna be starting right guard next to

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Speaker 4: Kelvin Beachrim. You could also make the case that number

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Speaker 4: six overall and a highly accomplished rookie that the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: are going to do with the Seahawks did last year,

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Speaker 4: and they're going to start them right out to the

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Speaker 4: gate and they're just gonna put them in a right

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Speaker 4: tackle and say you're a future starting right tackle. The

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Speaker 4: future is now, Kelvin Beachum. Guess what You're gonna compete

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Speaker 4: for an interior spot or you're just gonna be a

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Speaker 4: swing guy.

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Speaker 3: I could see that.

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Speaker 4: I could see them saying you're going to right tackle

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Speaker 4: and you compete with Kelvin Beacham. Let's see how that

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Speaker 4: shakes out. Because a year ago they did the same

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Speaker 4: thing with Josh Jones and Beacham won that competition. So honestly,

462
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Speaker 4: it could mean any of three things. As great an

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Speaker 4: observation as that is that he went to the right

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Speaker 4: you know, and if we're gonna believe in that, okay,

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Speaker 4: But what does that mean for the other players that

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Speaker 4: might be involved, they're trickle down.

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Speaker 1: Either scenario, whether it is right tackle or right guard.

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Speaker 1: I do think it's important to have whether that's a

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Speaker 1: Will Hernandez as that veteran right guard with a rookie

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Speaker 1: right tackle, or if you're right guard as Paris Johnson junior,

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Speaker 1: you had that veteran right tackle in Kelvin Beachum, flip

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Speaker 1: it over. DJ Humphers is your veteran left tackle, and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden Paris gets called, hey, we need

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Speaker 1: you at left guard, to have someone where he can

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Speaker 1: just lean on or have a quick brief conversation as

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Speaker 1: they break the huddle, just to make sure, hey, rook

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Speaker 1: you good, or it's hey, where do I What was

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Speaker 1: the call?

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Speaker 3: Again?

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Speaker 1: Just those little nuances, because you know, Paul, if you're

481
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Speaker 1: not ready, regardless of where you are on that offensive line,

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Speaker 1: you get blown off the ball and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden the quarterbacks flat on his back.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: Look, Kelvin Beacham last year with the media was pretty

486
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Speaker 4: straightforward that with that revolving door at times in the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals offensive line, there were moments. There were moments where

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Speaker 4: he thought the guy next to him playing right guard.

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Speaker 4: Was going to do one thing and the guy did another,

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Speaker 4: And so there's a lot to be said for that.

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Speaker 4: You don't need the five best starting offensive linemen in

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Speaker 4: the league. You just need five offensive linemen working together.

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Speaker 4: And so what does that mean? Is there do you

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Speaker 4: minimize the learning curve if he's an interior guy. Here's

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Speaker 4: the other thing, who's playing center? So if you're gonna

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Speaker 4: have let's just say, perhaps it's a John Gains or

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Speaker 4: it's a Yelder Froholt who has limited experience at center.

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Speaker 4: You can count on one hand how many starts he's

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Speaker 4: made at that position. Okay, so what does that mean?

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Speaker 4: Does that mean that you're more likely to put a

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Speaker 4: veteran inside and kick Paris Johnson Junior out to right tackle,

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Speaker 4: so you can have experience starting guards flanking an inexperienced center.

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Speaker 4: It's look, I'll just say this much, and I know

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Speaker 4: we're gonna get to the schedule. All you have to

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Speaker 4: do is look at the defensive lineman the Cardinals face

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Speaker 4: in the first four games, whether it's Washington with the

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Speaker 4: likes of a Jonathan Allen and a Drawn Payne in

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Speaker 4: a Montes sweat and Chase Young I mean, you rank

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Speaker 4: Chase Young like the fourth best defensive lineman on that team.

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Speaker 4: And then you're gonna get the Giants and Dexter Lawrence

511
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Speaker 4: and Cavon Thibodeau right and bj O Jalari's brother Aziz

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Speaker 4: who really came along part of his rookie year. And

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Speaker 4: then you get the Cowboys Micah Parsons in that deep

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Speaker 4: defensive front and they just took Mazzi Smith out of Michigan.

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Speaker 4: And then you're gonna get the forty nine ers in

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Speaker 4: week four with Nick Bosa and now Von Hargrave. To me,

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Speaker 4: my big takeaway from that Cardinals schedule is right out

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Speaker 4: of the gate, that Cardinals old line, we're gonna find

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Speaker 4: out if they're NFL ready or not.

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Speaker 1: That's your biggest takeaway from the schedule, Paul, Come on,

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Speaker 1: I'm preferring to look at the first month instead of

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Speaker 1: the line. Let's let's peel back the curtains here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai probably partner of the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, you're looking at the first four because

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Speaker 1: you can't you you mentally, you can't get past October

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Speaker 1: first because as you look at the schedule and again,

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Speaker 1: there are certain people when the schedule comes out, even

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, if it's an outdoor facility and there's no

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Speaker 1: roof that you know we worry about here with the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. One is Chris Malvin, the senior director of

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Speaker 1: media relations, because you know he's got to stand on

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Speaker 1: the sideline no protection. And then the other one is you, Paul,

533
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Speaker 1: because you're out there no protection, can't wear an umbrella,

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Speaker 1: you can't carry an umbrella, much to the disappointment of

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Speaker 1: one Danny Surrek, who thought she was going to be

536
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Speaker 1: able to last year, but we said that's not possible.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, if it's one sun is beaten down on you, rain, snow,

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Speaker 1: how about just some snow flurries of that wind chill.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's not a schedule that is kind

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Speaker 1: to the sideline reporter or non combatant if you prefer that,

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Speaker 1: in the words of Ron wolf Lee and his brother.

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Speaker 1: But December trips to Pittsburgh, Chicago, which is on Christmas Eve,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the family will love that. Philadelphia New Year's Eve,

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Speaker 1: You're really gonna love that one, oh boy. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: three December trips to perhaps my guess is a lot

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Speaker 1: of snow in Pittsburgh, Chicago, and Philly.

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Speaker 4: I'm not in favor of global warming, but maybe in

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Speaker 4: December this year, you know, maybe it might get a

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Speaker 4: little lucky. We'll get a rogue warm spell through the

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Speaker 4: eastern half of the US.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that. I saw that.

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Speaker 2: Gray.

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Speaker 4: If you would have told me three games in December

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Speaker 4: at Chicago, at Philly, at Pittsburgh. My first reaction was,

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Speaker 4: was there somebody at Park Avenue that I offended? What's

556
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Speaker 4: went on here? Exactly? So okay, for father's damn asking

557
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Speaker 4: for new boots, I've mentioned that, and we're just have

558
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Speaker 4: to go from there. You just gonna have to, you know,

559
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Speaker 4: just deal with it, be mentally tough. Jonathan Gannon and

560
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Speaker 4: this staff, they're used to it, so they'll figure it out.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, no joke, speaking of Jonathan Gannon when he

562
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Speaker 4: goes to Philadelphia. See, I think they kicked that all

563
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Speaker 4: the way to week seventeen, just to give the Eagles

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Speaker 4: fans more time to simmer down. Now when their former

565
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Speaker 4: defensive coordinator returns to town, and there's no question they're

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Speaker 4: gonna have all New Year's Eve to get nice and lubricated,

567
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Speaker 4: and they won't be working New Year's Day, so it'll

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Speaker 4: be akin to Thanksgiving night two thousand and eight when

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Speaker 4: they were tailgating all day and didn't have to work

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Speaker 4: the next day. And let's just say that was the

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Speaker 4: most spirited putting the spirit into spirited crowd I've seen

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Speaker 4: in a long time.

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Speaker 1: You're only saving grace for that game is that it

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Speaker 1: is part of the early window. It's a one pm

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Speaker 1: local kick as opposed to perhaps the late window on

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Speaker 1: Fox or C. Yes, it is going to be a

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Speaker 1: box game though, so it's at least the tailgating. The

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Speaker 1: morning tailgating is shorter that window because if they had

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Speaker 1: kicked it to you know, four to twenty five Philadelphia time,

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Speaker 1: that would not have been to your benefit.

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Speaker 4: Isn't the Wednesday before Thanksgiving considered the biggest party night

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Speaker 4: of the year. So maybe they'll be a little worn out,

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Speaker 4: if you will, and not all that willing to and

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Speaker 4: bube at that point in the morning when they get

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Speaker 4: ready for a one o'clock kick.

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Speaker 1: And I wonder you brought it up because it is

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Speaker 1: week seventeen and it's been much of the talk of

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Speaker 1: the offseason as far as the Philadelphia media. What Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Gannon did or did not do, and how much time

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Speaker 1: he put in or did not put in going into

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, in the fact that he did not

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Speaker 1: address the media after the Super Bowl. If the Eagles

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Speaker 1: are rolling, does Jonathan Gannon even become a story a

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Speaker 1: major headline? If the Eagles are going in to those

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Speaker 1: final two weeks, leaving the division, maybe a top the

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Speaker 1: conference or one of the top four seeds, you're looking

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Speaker 1: at the playoffs, and then it comes the Cardinals, whatever happens,

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Speaker 1: maybe Kyler Murray, maybe not. The focus really can't be

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Speaker 1: on a defensive coordinator when you potentially could be sitting

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Speaker 1: with ten, eleven, twelve wins.

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Speaker 4: Well, don't put it past the Eagles fans, Okay, to

602
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Speaker 4: be small in that way and never forget Look, the

603
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Speaker 4: Eagles have the NFL's toughest schedule. Based on last year's

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Speaker 4: win loss records, which we know usually aren't by the

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Speaker 4: end of the year. That strength of schedule can be

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Speaker 4: a borderline joke based on how much change there is

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Speaker 4: year to year, but based on that division, based on everything,

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Speaker 4: the expectations, based on what they've added. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of other storylines and a lot of other pressure

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Speaker 4: on the Eagles this season, no question about it. And look,

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Speaker 4: Nick Sirianni lost his offensive coordinator and his defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 4: so we'll see there's been a lot of change in

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia for a roster that stayed mainly intact. We'll see

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Speaker 4: how they respond with the Giants and Cowboys ramping things

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Speaker 4: up in that same division.

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Speaker 1: By the way, just looking at this schedule, for me,

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Speaker 1: what stands out as far as the toughest stretch is

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Speaker 1: that Week four through seven, those four games with three

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Speaker 1: division games all on the road forty nine Ers, Rams,

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Speaker 1: and Seahawks, with a home game against Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 1: the Bengals in Week five. Whether or not Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: is available for maybe that first game in Week four

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Speaker 1: at San Francisco, or we don't see him until later

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Speaker 1: October early November, still don't know. We did get a

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Speaker 1: brief update from coach Gannon on Friday when asked about

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray said he's doing good making strides, but quote

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Speaker 1: he's a long way away, but did notes that the

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Speaker 1: team is a long way away from playing a game.

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Speaker 1: So what happens here in May, it's just it's just

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Speaker 1: it's newsworthy because it's the starting quarterback. But it is

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Speaker 1: it is going to be that topic that keeps gets

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Speaker 1: brought up until we see number one on the field.

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Speaker 4: And you're right, you look at that. We you know

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Speaker 4: for everything that is the start of the season road

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Speaker 4: trip to Washing They're gonna have a new ownership group.

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Speaker 4: You know, the fans are gonna be fired up more

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Speaker 4: than they have in at least a decade plus under

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Speaker 4: the former owner. And so that's gonna be a big deal.

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Speaker 4: Don't think that all those players aren't gonna want to

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Speaker 4: show up and show out and ball out for the

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Speaker 4: new ownership group. Then you get the Giants at home.

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Speaker 4: They four to five things. By the way, attention giants.

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Speaker 4: I know you got Jalen Hyatt in round three from

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Speaker 4: Tennessee and you're proud of yourselves for trading up making

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Speaker 4: that selection. We'll see, we'll see what that rookie receiver

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Speaker 4: is all about in week two. We'll see if maybe

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Speaker 4: you should have made a play for DeAndre Hopkins in

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Speaker 4: the offseason when you think that you can just plug

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Speaker 4: and play some of these rookie receivers. We'll find out.

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Speaker 4: And then of course you have the Cowboys at home.

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Speaker 4: So for the fact that week's score through seven will

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Speaker 4: be even more formidable. That's saying something.

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Speaker 1: I just look at it from the division where those

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Speaker 1: division games, the first three all on the road, and

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Speaker 1: again you have no idea who's gonna be quarterbacking the

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Speaker 1: team for the Cardinals. But just you look at those

657
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Speaker 1: division games and they're boom boom boom. And then oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, you got the Bengals coming in who

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Speaker 1: who are riding a lot with Burrow at the.

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Speaker 4: Helm and think about it, the d C Louannarumo, he's

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Speaker 4: one of the finalists for the Cardinals gig. That'll be interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But in terms of the Cardinals home schedule, the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: coming to town, always a circus, always a show. You know,

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Speaker 4: the Giants will be interesting. Daniel Jones and everything, they

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Speaker 4: gave him the big money, Okay, you see. But Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow coming to town part of that Cardinals home

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Speaker 4: schedule this year, that'll be something to behold. That guy

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Speaker 4: is such a competitor. He's taking the Bengals to a

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Speaker 4: two time now.

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Speaker 3: He is North champion.

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Speaker 4: They're still seeking their first Super Bowl win. You know,

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Speaker 4: somebody asked him my favorite quarter of the offseason When

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Speaker 4: somebody asked Joe Burrow, what do you think the window

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Speaker 4: is with the Bengals in terms of, you know, Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl aspirations with this roster, and his answer was my

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Speaker 4: entire career, that's the window for a championship in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: Love it, Love the bravado when you can back it up.

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Speaker 4: And then you go to the Rams and look, the

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Speaker 4: Rams are coming off the worst season by a defending

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl champion NFL history. I think they're a complete

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Speaker 4: wild card. They got like three primetime games. I really

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Speaker 4: wonder if the networks are gonna regret putting the Rams

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Speaker 4: into primetime three times this year once again, believe your eyes.

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Speaker 4: Until they fix the offensive line with the La Rams,

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Speaker 4: I'm not a believer. Matthew Stafford, though, is participating in

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Speaker 4: offseason work.

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Speaker 3: He did not a year ago.

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Speaker 1: So that elbow on the issue that he fought through

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Speaker 1: all last season, that appears to be in the rear

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Speaker 1: view mirror. But yeah, to your point, they don't have

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Speaker 1: much outside of Matthew Stafford, Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 3: And Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of unknown and that might be a

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Speaker 1: game in which the Cardinals are looking in the mirror

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Speaker 1: and say, hey, you know, yeah, you got the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: but we're right in the same boat.

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Speaker 4: And hey, as long as we're bagging on division rivals,

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Speaker 4: you know, why not the very next game Week seven

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Speaker 4: at Seattle. Hey, for everything the Seahawks have done, and

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Speaker 4: they've seemingly crushed the last two draft classes, I'll give

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Speaker 4: him that. You have to that defensive front. Are they

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Speaker 4: gonna be able to stop the run? If the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: get out of their their run game and run attack

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Speaker 4: what they want this year and James Connor in a

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Speaker 4: contract year and the Cardinals can figure out that offensive line,

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Speaker 4: the way to combat the fact that you have Tarik

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Speaker 4: Woollen and Devin Witherspoon in the secondary is to go

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Speaker 4: straight at that Seahawks front.

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Speaker 3: Seven.

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Speaker 4: Bobby Wagner is back. He wasn't very good the last

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Speaker 4: time he was in Seattle his final year there. So

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Speaker 4: I'm curious because if you can't stop the run, not

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Speaker 4: only is that a quick pathway to a loss, but

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Speaker 4: it's just flat demoralizing to your entire team. And after

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Speaker 4: they just lost al Woods and they didn't do much

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Speaker 4: in the draft. For everything they did do in the draft.

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Speaker 4: They really didn't address that front defensive line. So we'll

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Speaker 4: see eight home.

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Speaker 1: Games, six of those games against playoff teams from a

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Speaker 1: year ago. Interested in any of those games, all of

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Speaker 1: be here before you know. It's Phase three approaching. We

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Speaker 1: got OTA's coming up at the end of the month.

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Speaker 1: Paul the mandatory veteran mini camp or just mini camp

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Speaker 1: period all players. Now, the question is this d hop show?

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Speaker 1: What about Budda Baker or are they given passes? As

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones was given a pass a year ago after

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Speaker 1: requesting a trade.

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Speaker 4: I'd be surprised if we saw either one of them,

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Speaker 4: especially DeAndre Hopkins. I just think that the trade that

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Speaker 4: did not go down during the draft was in part negotiations,

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Speaker 4: was a stance taken by the GM Monti assin Ford

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Speaker 4: that there will be significant compensation for a guy who

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Speaker 4: can still be easily considered a top ten receiver in

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Speaker 4: the game when he's healthy and he's right, and could

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Speaker 4: be the difference in an AFC championship game for a

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Speaker 4: Buffalo or a Kansas city. You know, it could be

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Speaker 4: a difference for a New York Giants team trying to

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Speaker 4: compete in the NFCS.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see.

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Speaker 4: I think for that reason that he will not be

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Speaker 4: part of the Cardinals offseason, and then we'll see what

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Speaker 4: happens leading up to training camp. Buddha Baker, it's a

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Speaker 4: different story. I firmly believe he is still part of

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Speaker 4: the future, just a matter of when and maybe more

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Speaker 4: likely a matter of what they're going to do about

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Speaker 4: his contract how much in particular, So we'll see. But look,

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Speaker 4: if there's one guy in this roster who's completely proven

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Speaker 4: and you don't need to see in the off season

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Speaker 4: and you have no worries or qualms that he's working

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Speaker 4: and he'll be ready to go once training camp starts,

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Speaker 4: that would be Buddha Baker.

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Speaker 1: And you can see that just on his social media

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Speaker 1: platforms as well, the video that he is tweeting out

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Speaker 1: or putting on Instagram that yeah, he is still working,

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Speaker 1: he just might not be within this building. So something

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Speaker 1: to keep an eye on as we get deeper and

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Speaker 1: deeper into the off season. Again, the news of the

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Speaker 1: day though, and I'll say it again, Paul in the

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Speaker 1: news of the week, News of the month, Matt Hawk

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Speaker 1: on this roster, Polly Punter, I'm anxiously awaiting that sit

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Speaker 1: down or the expose, if you will, the deep dive,

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Speaker 1: the thirty for thirty East sixty piece on just the

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Speaker 1: overall punter position and maybe maybe the return of Adie

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Speaker 1: Lee as well.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: Kind of wait and see on that.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you know, as an ASU guy, we'll get him

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Speaker 4: together with you know, Kyle Soley, you know, maybe there's

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Speaker 4: an ASU angle in that one. But once again, Craig,

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Speaker 4: especially when you're going on the road in December and

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Speaker 4: some of these these bad weather games, boom, you got

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Speaker 4: a defense, you got a punter, you have a chance.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you can you can win the field

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Speaker 4: position game. There's that I mean you're going against And

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Speaker 4: I'll just I'll just throw this out there as well,

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Speaker 4: because we stopped at week seven. I just want I

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Speaker 4: should have stopped at week eight when we're looking to

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Speaker 4: the schedule. The Ravens are coming to town. I tell you,

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Speaker 4: over the last five years, one of the games I

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Speaker 4: really enjoyed. I could count on one hand if I

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Speaker 4: did a Polly power pole over here, it would be

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Speaker 4: game two of Kyler's career. Kyler Murray against Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 4: that was just such an intriguing quarterback matchup, and you

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Speaker 4: could tell the two of them were competing against each other,

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Speaker 4: who's the more dynamic quarterback, which quarterback is going to

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Speaker 4: keep a defense on its more. So, you just pray

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Speaker 4: that Kyler is fully healthy by that point in the

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Speaker 4: season and you can have that sort of marquee matchup

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Speaker 4: that is just waiting to happen when Lamar Jackson comes

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Speaker 4: to town.

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Speaker 1: And dare I say, based off what we anticipate this

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Speaker 1: upcoming season, look like, maybe Paul, you're onto something, because

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Speaker 1: perhaps punting might be the biggest advantage or the biggest

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Speaker 1: weapon for this Cardinals team, especially if you don't know

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Speaker 1: what you have at quarterback, and then just maybe some

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Speaker 1: struggles if you will offensively for this team, well sure.

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Speaker 4: And then if Matt Prater can be healthy. When he

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Speaker 4: was healthy a year ago and when he had his

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Speaker 4: full battery, his regular long snapper and his regular holder,

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Speaker 4: he was excellent. He was absolutely excellent. There was one

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Speaker 4: game where things got sideways and sort of skewed some

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Speaker 4: of his stats. A lot of that had to do

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Speaker 4: once again with the operation and the battery. But if

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Speaker 4: you can dial that down and the kicking game can

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Speaker 4: be solid and the defense can be reliable, still remains

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Speaker 4: to be seen what the going to do. And they

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Speaker 4: had interior defensive line, who's gonna step up? Maybe there'll

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Speaker 4: be some veteran signings by guys who are going about

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Speaker 4: missing the offseason just in time to show up for

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Speaker 4: training camp. I'm not exactly sure, but you know, look,

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Speaker 4: you go into some of these games and you figure

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals are definitely gonna have more of an emphasis

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Speaker 4: of running the ball, and it could just be a

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Speaker 4: totally different look this year. It really could, in terms

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Speaker 4: of style, in terms of substance on both sides of

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Speaker 4: the ball.

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Speaker 1: A lot of unknown which makes this season very intriguing

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people. And the course, when you're

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Speaker 1: wanting to know what's going on with the special teams,

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Speaker 1: just come right here. Paul will fill you in on

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Speaker 1: everything you need to know about the three dare I

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Speaker 1: say four most important positions on the field, not name

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position.

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Speaker 3: That is your kicker, your punter, your holder, and your

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Speaker 3: long snap.

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Speaker 4: You didn't even get into Yelda fro Hoole and that

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Speaker 4: story by Darren Irvan.

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Speaker 3: That was wrong man. This strong man he calls himself.

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Speaker 4: It was a great fine by our Jim Amalhunter when

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Speaker 4: he looked at the social media of Yelder Frohold, he

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Speaker 4: calls himself the Danish Army Knife is outstanding because he's

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Speaker 4: so versatile and the positional flexibility. But yeah, we have

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Speaker 4: a different nickname for him. We're gonna we're gonna start

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Speaker 4: calling him Magnus ver Rohole, as in honor of the

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Speaker 4: World's Strongest Man competition some twenty five years ago, because

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Speaker 4: he has the Atlas stones in his home gym, just

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Speaker 4: like a strong man competition.

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Speaker 1: Can I be in the area of the vicinity when

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Speaker 1: you tell him that he've just bestowed upon him a nickname.

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Speaker 1: I just want to see the reaction, whether you get

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Speaker 1: thrown across the room or you get a handshake pat

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Speaker 1: on the back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he might turn me into a Javelins, there's no

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Speaker 4: doubt about that. And the fact that he's in his

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Speaker 4: mid twenties, I'm just praying he actually knows what the

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Speaker 4: reference is. He's gotta know. I mean, come on, if

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Speaker 4: he's a strong man competition of Fishionado, he's got to

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Speaker 4: know Magnus for magnuson Right.

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Speaker 3: Google it if you're not familiar with it, check it

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Speaker 3: out on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Long time ESPN videos platform material programming always specially overnight

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Speaker 1: late night especially.

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Speaker 4: He saved ESPN before they had all the Big four

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Speaker 4: sports for programming. He was the program for the story

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Speaker 4: on for Hold and all things Arizona Cardinals, go to

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Speaker 4: Asycardinals dot com. And on that note, we will put

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Speaker 4: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented

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Speaker 4: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Mamare for Paul Calvc,

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Speaker 4: I'm Craig real Lou. We'll talk to you next time

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