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Speaker 1: What's going on? It is Monday, December nineteen. Well, would

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Speaker 1: But no, no, no no, listen it. It's a great time

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Speaker 1: real life. Like that's how I would view it, Like

428
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Speaker 1: if I know, like, man, there's no chance that I'm

429
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Speaker 1: gonna be playing in the NF. Hell, that's it. Like

430
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 1: once I'm done with college football, the next time I

431
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: pick up a football is going to be in some

432
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: seven on seven tournament with a bunch of old guys

433
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Speaker 1: that you know, everyone's staying in the A c L

434
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Speaker 1: every other play at the local Y M c A.

435
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 1: Like that's that's next for me. If I wanted to

436
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: prolong that, what am I gonna do? I'm gonna stay

437
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 1: in school as long as I can. I want to

438
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 1: find every way possible, every loophole possible to to to

439
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: make an eye ol money to go to school for free,

440
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: get another degree. I don't know, like I don't. I'm

441
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: not faulting the mayor. If you have no NFL future,

442
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: get it. Why you can get it? Why you can,

443
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: especially especially if you're doing it the right way, and say,

444
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: my man may walk out of here. We're like two

445
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: doctorate degrees in a mask and yeah, hell yeah, let's go. Yeah, hey,

446
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: what happened to college football when it was about school? Right? Yeah?

447
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 1: The academics these are hey, hey did did Broum? Then

448
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: we all forget they're called student athletes? Okay, what comes first?

449
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Speaker 1: The student exactly part of the equation? Uh, you free

450
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: college athletes to basement b Van Wilder. Yeah, I'm not

451
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: sitting here in judgment of him. That would have not

452
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: been for me though. Um And and it's a bit

453
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: of a bummer because if you play a line like

454
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: you mentioned playing seven and seven, if you play a line,

455
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: you never get to play again, like like there is

456
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: no way to ever and not not that I necessarily

457
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: want to because my body would shatter into a thousand pieces,

458
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: but like it's not like basketball. There's no pick up

459
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: to be had. There's no men's fast pitch softball, even

460
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: a men's fast pitch league. No, like you're when you're done,

461
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: you're done, to Aaron's point, So go ahead and get

462
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 1: that tenth year. Uh. Plenty of people go to college

463
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: for seven years, Richard. Yeah, they're called doctors. We should

464
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: do that one Halloween. Maybe little uh, little Farley David

465
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Speaker 1: Spade action, Huh, we go a little black sheet. Maybe

466
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: a little Tommy Boy been would be really good. I

467
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: think the real one there is. We gotta get you

468
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Speaker 1: in the Nat Foley outfit. The motivation I would I

469
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Speaker 1: would love I. I I don't want to try two boards.

470
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to try off the top here. I'd

471
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Speaker 1: have to rewatch the gain my impression down. But I

472
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 1: can definitely do I I can do. I can do

473
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Speaker 1: the complete opposite. I can do tiny guy in a

474
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Speaker 1: big jacket, you know, kind of Rory reversal from the

475
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Speaker 1: season the Big Blazer Boy. And then I'll go fat guy. God,

476
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: I love Tommy Boy back in the day. Okay, the

477
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: people are talking about jingle all the way. I have

478
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: a lot of jingle all the way talk. But I'll

479
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: wait for it. We can get first uh into some

480
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: more of these CFP Latka's uh number two on the

481
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Speaker 1: list today? How should wait? Last thing I had to

482
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: ask here? And sorry, I know we've gone along with

483
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: bo Nix and Oregon. Um, who do you replace Kenny

484
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: Dillingham with? You know Kenny him and now the youngest

485
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 1: coach in the FBS the head coach, say was, Oh

486
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: see it Oregan last year. It's a very good connection.

487
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: How do you replace and make sure that bow Nicks

488
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Speaker 1: can remain who he was last year? Oh? Man? Um,

489
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's I'll be interesting to see if

490
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Speaker 1: he brings or looks the maybe someone over from Georgia

491
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: that he knows well. Uh, some that's in house. To

492
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: be honest, I haven't done a ton of digging about

493
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Speaker 1: who's gonna be the next guy to take over. And

494
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Speaker 1: then that's one thing you do, you know, which is

495
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: even more surprising than bow Nick's to me, Going back

496
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: to why I thought he should leave, I thought two things. One,

497
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: you know, very good draft grade too. You're having to

498
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: learn a new offense again. Um. This will be his

499
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: fourth offense that he's had to learn in five seasons.

500
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: Two there at Auburn and now to it Oregon. Uh

501
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: it it's hard to build consistency when you don't have

502
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: the same system, Like that's problem, that's crazy. Hey, but

503
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: you know what might help him in the NFL as uh?

504
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: He will, you know, he will whatever it could help him,

505
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: because who knows, he could bounce around maybe in that league,

506
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: and he's at least used to having to digest new playbooks,

507
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: all right. Shout out to Clinton. Moses in the chat

508
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: says go beaves, see you later, alligator, And it's a

509
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: perfect transition because the Oregon State Beaver's beat up on

510
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: the Florida Gators. Aaron, I don't know if you've seen

511
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: some of the clips from this game making the round,

512
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: watching the awful social media you tell about. You saw

513
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: that pass rush clip when it's ten nothing, game still

514
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: close and you have an defensive end. Like normally when

515
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: coaches or fans say going through the motions, I kind

516
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: of roll my eyes because I'm like, this is the fact, guy,

517
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: I see it on the couch, drinking of beers, like

518
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: they're just going through the motion. But no, they just

519
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: like they're just maybe getting their askings. No, no no, this

520
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: cat wasn't even going through the motions, Like he didn't

521
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: even do the motions. He he. He literally walked off

522
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: of the ball and lightly waved his hands around it.

523
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Speaker 1: It feels a little bad against Florida since, um, actually, Aaron,

524
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Speaker 1: what what did you think first about the game? Because

525
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: I gotta pull up a tweet right now that's gonna

526
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: blow your mind about how bad Florida has been since

527
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: the shoe throw. Yeah, well, first off, the game was

528
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: it's embarrassing and and and and expected, Like when you

529
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: have more support steps showing up to a bowl game

530
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: than you do actual players. We all remember the photo

531
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: from from the summertime showing what Florida has built when

532
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: it comes to just coaches and assistants and jays and

533
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: all that, Like they had more of that there than

534
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: actual players. That's that's going to be a problem. So

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00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: what was what was Florida's motivation? Not a lot. You know,

536
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: you're on your third or four string quarterback at that point.

537
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: Oregon State, you know, wanted to get to that tenth win.

538
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 1: They've had a good season this year there in the

539
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: back twelve. Just I think that's the biggest thing right now.

540
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: When we look at bowl games, you figure out which

541
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: team is more vote motivated than the other, And that's

542
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: why I text you like two outs and fourth the

543
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: game and said, hey, put some cash money on Oregon State.

544
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: They're about to whop up on Florida. Florida. Now they

545
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: wanted to go to Vegas to go have fun. They

546
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: want to go to the casino, they want to go

547
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: to slots. I want that. That that's that's that was

548
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: their trip. Now they're all that go and jo the

549
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: ball game. I get it. Whatever. So it was a

550
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: little bit of embarrassing. And you know, as I was

551
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: sitting around last night watching some more clips about the game,

552
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: it kind of hit me because I've I've kind of

553
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: been irked about the whole thing for now for the

554
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: past year. Dan Mullen should never have been fired at

555
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 1: Florida ever, ever, ever, ever, a lot of it, and honestly,

556
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: T Bob, it reminds me of of a little bit

557
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 1: of the Auburn situation where Gus was winning, Gus was

558
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: having a good career. You're at Auburn, but of course

559
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: expectations are are stupid high. Why because you're in the SEC.

560
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: Why because you faced Nick Saban and Alabamas in your

561
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: same state. So people weren't happy for the fact that hey,

562
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: you've been to a natip weren't happen for the fact

563
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: that you beat Alabama a couple of times, it's not

564
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: good enough. Sorry, it's not good enough. So expectations were

565
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: far from what they should be. Gus Leaves, You're bringing

566
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: someone that was kind of very different, very unique, and

567
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: look how long that lasted. Lasted a year, year and

568
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: a half before Uh, he's Brian Harson's on his butt

569
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: looking for a new job. Um. I kind of feel

570
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: like the same thing is happening with Florida. Dan had success,

571
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: Dan had a great season the previous year, brought them

572
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: to the SC champions Game, was more competitive against Alabama

573
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: that game than anyone else the entire season, had a

574
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: hell of a game. Bad season. I get that everyone

575
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: wants to compare him to Florida to Georgia, so you

576
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: have that comparison, similar to the Auburn Alabama comparison. Didn't

577
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: live up to people's expectations, so you get rid of him,

578
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: and then you bring in someone that, just like Harrison,

579
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: very unknown and maybe a lot of people's minds is unproven.

580
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he's going to be hard, so

581
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's gonna get fired midway through next season.

582
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: But I just think that both situations are are really similar,

583
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: and I think both first off, both coaches should not

584
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: have been fired in the first place to start with.

585
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I just feel like there's a

586
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: lot of fans right now kind of sent back saying,

587
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: you know, we'll give him year one. We get it.

588
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: He needs to make this team his own, their recruiting. Fine,

589
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: we'll give another couple of seasons. But I just go

590
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: back to the very beginning. Dan Mullen should never have

591
00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:01,320
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00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: I didn't really frame it in my head that way. Um.

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00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: A lot of the narrative brushstrokes that created this situation

615
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: are shockingly similar to the Arson hired Auburn. The only

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Speaker 1: difference I would say is, even though Harson was maybe

617
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Speaker 1: at a was that a bigger school in Boise State.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually more impressed with what Billy Napier did at

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Speaker 1: U L h U L Lafayette here in Louisiana. And

620
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: granted maybe that's a bit of local bias, but like

621
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Speaker 1: Boise State has been an elite spot where they have

622
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: won an elite amount of games. Like Brian Harson took

623
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: over somewhere with tradition that was very good and he

624
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: didn't elevate it. Um. He kept it going, I suppose,

625
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: but he did not elevate it. That was a big

626
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: major red flag when they hired him in the first place.

627
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: Uel had been really bad for a while. It's funny

628
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,480
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629
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: Oil's fortune, like Big Oil, Like quite literally, you have

630
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: money to get from boosts, etcetera, etcetera. Billy Napier transcended

631
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: that and he made a U L team that was

632
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: not winning into a consistent threat to win the Sun

633
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: Belt Championship, butt together some great years. So I think that,

634
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: like I still again, I can't halt I can't fault

635
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: the hire of Napier at Florida. But like I always

636
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: talked about him, a hiring nihilist, you just never know

637
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: if these things are gonna work out. Like everything should

638
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Speaker 1: say that Billy Napier should work out, but year one

639
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: feels awful, Year one feels offen um. In fact, it's

640
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: been a couple of bad years as Florida. This comes

641
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: from John Tweet Sports points out that Florida since the

642
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: through the Shoe throw in twenty twenty, which is where

643
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: Florida had the game, one player throws an l shoe

644
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: players shoe, it ends up in a personal foul year

645
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: field goal. Florida losse team in se game and they

646
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: were on the verge of the playoffs. Since that game,

647
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: Florida is one and seven against ranked teams, five and

648
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: thirteen against the SEC twelve and seventeen. Overall, they have

649
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: fired their coach and they've had back to back losing

650
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: seasons for the first time since seventy nine. So, while

651
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: I still believe in Billy napier Um, this season went

652
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: off the rails and they underachieved relevant relative to their

653
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: talent this season, and he failed to get growth out

654
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: of Anthony Richardson, somebody who had so much potential When

655
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 1: he was out there beating Utah at night in the

656
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: swamp back in Week one, We're all like, oh my god, dude,

657
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: how I had a schedule As Florida, They've arrived and

658
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: ultimately didn't want to see. Does a team ascend or

659
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: descent over the course of a year, and that's how

660
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: we judged the coaches. And there's no doubt that Napiers

661
00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: Florida descended here in year one. Yea. So the big

662
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: question because I go back to the comparison issue, like

663
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: are you good enough at Auburn to beat Nick Saban?

664
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: That's all that's all people care about, Like you can

665
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: go one and eleven, but if you beat Nick Saban Alabama,

666
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: it was a good season, Like that's all they care about,

667
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: Like that is the game. The same thing could be

668
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: said for Florida and Georgia right now to the best

669
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: teams in the East for the past you know, essentially decade,

670
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: and you has already had a little bit of time there,

671
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: you know when I was coming out, But it's been

672
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: Georgia or Florida really just ping ponging back and forth

673
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: of who's gonna essentially represent the East and the SEC

674
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: Championship game more times than not. So you will get

675
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: judged on can you beat Kirby Smart and can you

676
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: beat Georgia. My question is when you look at both

677
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: these coaches, So if you look at Billy Napier and

678
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: Dan Mullen, which one of which one of them, Do

679
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: you have more confidence can beat Georgia and Kirby Smart?

680
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: And my answers Dan Mullen, like, if that's where you

681
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: need to get done at the end of the day,

682
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: If like, if your job is to beat Georgia, because

683
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: if you know, if you beat Georgia, you will be

684
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: in the SEC East And that's goal number one is

685
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: to make it to it, to give yourself an opportunity

686
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: to win SC Championship game. If that's what needs to

687
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: get done, My money's on Dan Molin, not on on

688
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: Billy Napier. So will Billy Napier ever beat Well, will

689
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: Billy Napier ever beat Kirby Smart? And I will say no,

690
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: he won't. Dan Mollen has at least done that. I

691
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: don't think, Yeah, I mean, I don't think he'll ever

692
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: beat Kirby Smart. I don't. I don't think he'll be

693
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: there long enough to beat him. At least Gus at

694
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: least Gus at least Gus beat Saban at least Gus

695
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: watching to a natty and and Dan did the same

696
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: thing there and then beat into a Natty. But you know,

697
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: had a hell of a season, got the SEC Championship game,

698
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: beat Kirby, like he did some of the stuff that

699
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: you wanted him to do. I would. I don't think

700
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: Billy's going to get there, so I don't think he's

701
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: a better go ahead. Sorry, no, no, I just don't

702
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: think like I said, like, if I'm gonna put my

703
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: money on a horse, my money's going on Dan. Yeah.

704
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: And if any of the audio listeners are wondering why

705
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: we have some of those we year hiccups we deal with,

706
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: like a two second delay. It's one of the only

707
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: thing that sucks about doing this show remotely as opposed

708
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: to me just getting to be an Erin's house every day,

709
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: uh doing it with him. But uh no, Look, if

710
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: it's a Dan Mullin versus Billy Napier conversation, I mean

711
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm with you. D Like we saw Dan Mullin go

712
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: from oh he has to have a running quarterback to oh,

713
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: I mad Kyle Trash one of the best pastors in

714
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: the country. Like like, I will never, ever, ever, ever

715
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: doubt Dan Mullin's coaching ability. For a pure schematic standpoint,

716
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: I think it was one of He's one of the

717
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: best in all of coaching. Um. Now, I think he

718
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: obviously had some recruiting things that rubbed the wrong way.

719
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't want to tickle everybody that he had

720
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: to tickle down there in Florida, right, Like Dan Mullins

721
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: problem was maybe the politics of everything in the recruiting

722
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: aspect where Napier has done that well, it's been the

723
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: actual on the field stuff that Napier has struggled with

724
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: here in year number one. I kind of think Florida

725
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma fans are in the same situation in that

726
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: they're both having to do some mental gymnastics. Gotta look, yes,

727
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: did you under achieve relative of your talent, Yes, but

728
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: it's your one. Give this man time and he will

729
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: figure it out. Uh, we will see. But you're right,

730
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Florida is a school that views themselves no

731
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: lower than second best in the East, and that now

732
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: appears much harder with a Tennessee that yeah, yeah, yeah,

733
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: bad too, which that I mean, And that's where you

734
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: get into that's the biggest strike against Napier is the

735
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: the fade away at the end of the season. Um,

736
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: they they they fell apart. But now you've got a

737
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: Tennessee that looks like they're sustainably good. You have South Carolina,

738
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: who uh continues get friskier and friskier. You have Kentucky

739
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: who is obviously kept but is much more solid than

740
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: they have been in the past. Like the road to

741
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: ping ponging with Georgia is infinitely harder than it was previously.

742
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: And we're gonna see if Billy Napier is a man

743
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: to get done. Uh, te Pet says a Money's like, hell, no, team,

744
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm coming to the house every day. That is not true.

745
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: Aaron would love nothing more than for me to be

746
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: in his study every day. This isn't it. Yeah, I

747
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: would love for Tea Ball to be here make the

748
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: show even more entertaining. Um. Plus, we can make a

749
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: lock us together, Uh question t Yeah, so we both

750
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: we both played against Alabama and there heyday and obviously

751
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,959
Speaker 1: you know this, this goes more to east or West

752
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: in this conference and and and listen, the SEC will change.

753
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: So this is going to be irrelevant in a couple

754
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: of years. And it looks like Texas, Oklahomba come but

755
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: the road to Atlanta mm hm when Alabama was going

756
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: through their their dynasty, Yeah, what was it was it?

757
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: I guess I'm trying to find a way to phrase

758
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: this the best way. Was it harder for L. S

759
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: U and Company to get over that hump to get

760
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: to Atlanta compared to the East trying to get through Georgia?

761
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: Right now? What? What? What is? What was? I guess

762
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 1: what's more realistic the rest of the West getting through

763
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: Alabama for the past decade or the rest of the

764
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: East going to try to get through Georgia for the

765
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: past two years for the next decade plus. Now, M

766
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: kind of asking who's a scarier final boss, Like yeah, yeah,

767
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: which is question essentially essentially, So it's interesting back to

768
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: a conversation about like Florida getting getting over this hump. Yeah, yeah, no, no,

769
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. And I mean they kind of

770
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: feel the same in a lot of ways. Now for

771
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: my own personal experience, I finished three and three against

772
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: Alabama in my years at Elsho. Like, if you've ever

773
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: read about the Punic Wars back in the day, whereas

774
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: Rome and Carthage and the two major superpowers of the time, Um, well,

775
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: there's a reason why in modern society we have all

776
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: of these Roman echoes, right like we have sentence in

777
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: Congress and and and we have all of these things

778
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: that you can trace back to Roman civilization. There's not

779
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: a lot of Carthaginian echoes. Okay, I think I think

780
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: Barcelona is named after Hamilcar Barca. Outside of that, Rome

781
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: pretty much white the other superpower from the face of

782
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: the earth, like they took them, salted their lands, absolutely

783
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: destroyed their culture. To me, that was kind of that

784
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: eleven National Championship game. We're Roman Carthage, two superpowers are meeting.

785
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: They succeeded, we fell l s U was in ruins,

786
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: and Alabama enjoyed essentially now Alburg got first couple of times,

787
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: but essentially unchecked success over the next decade. The reason

788
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: why I would maybe give a slight nod to Georgia

789
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: as being scarier here is that if they win back

790
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: to back championships, um, they have done that for well

791
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: actually no, never mind, it might continue to be the

792
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: same because saving only one backback championships one time, and

793
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: it was eleven and twelve, and that was what five

794
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: years in and I think it Kirby wins it this year,

795
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: is that five years again? So actually, no, whereon he's

796
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 1: actually following the blueprint exactly for what Nick Saban laid out.

797
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: If he wins back to back Nattie's and then if

798
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: he does that, yes, uh, the the the wise men

799
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: would say that we are destined to suffer for a

800
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: decade under the rule of the red and black, the

801
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: fearsome slaver tooth genetically inbred bulldog, which just sounds like

802
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: a horrible time to be alive, which is why I'm

803
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: so thankful that Brian Kelly will be coming to assert

804
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: the throne and put that dog down, and the cast

805
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: iron throne will reign supreme once again. Well, I guess

806
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: too too. I mean, you probably good point with Brian

807
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: Kelly there too, Like your two biggest rivals, I guess

808
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: you have three in for to State looks like I

809
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: mean for State's rolling too, you know, but I'll focus

810
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: on the East right now. Um, Kirby Smart and Brian

811
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: Kelly Liken. He just goes back to the hiring like

812
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to have a whole you know, rip

813
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: on Billy Napier segment here, because I do think you did. Actually, yeah,

814
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: but it wasn't the the the The topic wasn't Billion

815
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: Napier sucks. The topic was Dan Mullen should have never

816
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: been fired. That's that's two different things. I'm not saying

817
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: Billi Napirel is a terrible coach. I'm just saying Ban

818
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: Nolan should be still the head coach of Florida to

819
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: day right now. But Billy Napier and their two of

820
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: their biggest three rivals rivalries right now, and you can

821
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: even say maybe all three of them is the inferior

822
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: coach to all three and and for Florida, it just

823
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: goes back to head scratching moment, similar to all Brendon

824
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: Brian Harrison. You hire your you took a major risk

825
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: on hiring this coach. You took a guy that has

826
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: not proven at this level and are giving him now

827
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: an opportunity to coach at the Power five level. The

828
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: question really becomes and and and after next year, if

829
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: it once again as an average football team, say they

830
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: say they even just barely improved, say there's seven and five,

831
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: what is the discussion going to be like? His leash

832
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: is not as long compared to a coach that had

833
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 1: a more of a proven track record at the big

834
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: Boy league. God, I mean life comes at you're fast

835
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: if you're a Napier. They loved him all offseason. He's

836
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: got infinitely more money like L S who's actually doing

837
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: very poorly in the N I L space. Um, I

838
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of my fears. I feel like

839
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: a lot of my fears when it came to uh,

840
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's cheering for this new age of college football,

841
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: and I agree from a player empowerment standpoint, But like

842
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: Louisiana is a ship state. I love it. I live here. Um,

843
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: I was born here, all my family lives here. But

844
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: we weren't dead last and everything right, economic opportunity, education,

845
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: all these sorts of things. And so I wondered, in

846
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: this new age of college football, would the literal economy

847
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: of the state become a ballast around the neck as

848
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: you try to stay competitive with these more successful places

849
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: and you are seeing that whereas like even Florida has

850
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: four or five times amount of money and their collective

851
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: uh then than L s U does. But with all

852
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: that hype and all the positible minium Naper had and

853
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: beating Utah, here we sit and well, these are the

854
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: conversations that we're having. That's why I say life comes

855
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: at you fast, uh real quick to close up here

856
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: and talk prime as prime is going to Colorado Again,

857
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: I talked about an app I if you have not

858
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: seen it, go look up the clip of Deon Sanders

859
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: talking with one of his players, who um kind of

860
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: blew the game and the HBCU National Championship in the

861
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: Celebration Bowl this weekend. And uh, if if you think

862
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: I'll Deon, if you think Diana as a coach, if

863
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: you think coach Prime is all flashed and no substance,

864
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: the clip that has gone a bit viral, I think

865
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: we'll show you otherwise. And so the question is as

866
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: he leads Jackson State and starts a new uh, will

867
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: a very important player follow him? Travis Hunter, the former

868
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: number one player in the country who rebuffed Florida State

869
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: to follow Dan the Jackson State. They're all kind of

870
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: rumors about a million dollars in I l do. I

871
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: don't believe to my knowledge that that ever coalesced, and

872
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: it's something that they denied throughout the process. And now

873
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter is a sign. Okay, I go to Georgia, Miami,

874
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: USC or Colorado. Should Hunter followed prod? Yeah, he should

875
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: follow Prime. I think you know he went to the

876
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: HBCU for a reason. You know, I think he obviously

877
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: bought into a little bit about what the main mission

878
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: was for Dion and why Dion went to the HBC.

879
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: You went to Jacksons State in the first place, but

880
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: you also wanted to get coached by one of the

881
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: best guys that your position many the best dB of

882
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: all time. Hey, I get an opportunity to go learn

883
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: from Coach Prime for three or four years. Hell, yes,

884
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: I'm me yup, I mean listen. I I'm a great

885
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: story of this because I never watched Georgia football growing up.

886
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: Literally my first time watching Georgia was the the Sugar

887
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: Bowl when they whooped up on Hawaiian I was like, oh,

888
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: interesting team. About the uniforms kind of bad? Stafford's pretty sweet.

889
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: Did some research to learn it was a health of game,

890
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: did some research, learned a little you know, a lot

891
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: more about Bobo and Coach Rick and their history and

892
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: their development of quarterbacks. I'm like, man, I want to

893
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: go get coached by those guys. They know how to

894
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: coach quarterbacks. That's why I didn't grow up with Georgia fan.

895
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: I could care less about Georgia growing up. Like I'm

896
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: a Forida kid. I went to Florida Games I got

897
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: offered from Florida Florida State in Miami USFUCF. Like people

898
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: were like, no way, Aaron leaves the state of Florida.

899
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: But I wanted to go get coached by two guys

900
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: that knew the position, like I said, could develop. And

901
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: that's why I went to George and obviously fell in

902
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: love with it living the state now and and and

903
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: very happy with that decision. So for me, for me

904
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: looking at his situation when he had offers from all

905
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: over the country, I would say eighty percent of why

906
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: he went to Jackson State was the opportunity to go

907
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: live and learn and be around Yeah, Prime, Yeah, so

908
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: why would you not continue your reasoning for going to

909
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: Jackson State now going to Colorado? Well, okay, so I again, um,

910
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't know that I can say what Travis Hunter

911
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: should do, right, like only Travis Hunter knows what he

912
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: should do. But I do see the angles here, and

913
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: sure sticky with Prime, it makes sense for every reason

914
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: that you just said. On the other hand, what I

915
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: could also see out of Hunter is when you do

916
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: look around and you see all these n I L

917
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: deals ensure you can get paid to Colorado. But we

918
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: know Miami's paying. We know SC is paying, and we

919
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: know you can get paid at Georgia probably more than

920
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: you could at Colorado. I feel comfortable saying that. Uh.

921
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: And so the question is does he feel like Okay?

922
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: I played for Coach Prime, and he taught me how

923
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: to approach the work. He established great fundamentals in me.

924
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta be committed in the classroom. I

925
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: gotta be committed everyday working out. I gotta take this

926
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: seriously like he. He helped me build the foundational blocks

927
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: upon which my career can flourish. And now that I've

928
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: learned that base, I want to go start to take

929
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: more advantage of my name and play for championships. And

930
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: if you walk into Georgia, isn't gonna be competitive WI

931
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: you'd be guaranteed a spot, No, But if you get

932
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: a spot, the rewards will be greater than anywhere else.

933
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: If you walk into USC you will be guaranteed the

934
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: starting spot. You will likely compete for championships, and yes,

935
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 1: you would get paid. Miami's a bit different here, because

936
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: that would almost feel like more of a purely monetary angle.

937
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: Though Mario Cristo Ball is recruiting very well. Right now,

938
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: My only deal with christ Ball is I have to

939
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: see him win with that talent, right like. It's one

940
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: of the reasons why Brent Vinables again is so disappointed

941
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma this year. He had top ten talent. Look

942
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: at the recruiting classes. Ah, he is someone who had

943
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: a team that was significantly better pure talent wise than

944
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: his Big twelve brethren, and he underachieved with that team.

945
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: I feel like Marta Crista Ball underachieved with even this

946
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: year's Miami team. He has to prove to me that

947
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: he won't continue to do so. So if I'm Hunter,

948
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: I think Georgia n SC personally make the most sense here.

949
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: But again, I think there's a very clear reasoning and

950
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: logical reason that he could choose any one of these schools,

951
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: which is I just did something that's awful to do

952
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: in this job, which is I literally gave you nothing.

953
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: I threw a lot of words out there, and all

954
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: I said at the end of the day was I

955
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: could see him going to any of these four schools.

956
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Brom, I'm sorry. Let me try. Let me

957
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: he should go to SC because Georgia sucks. The futures

958
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: in l A and Lincoln Riley's gonna be better than

959
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart. All right. So so I did have the

960
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: thought like when he when he committed to Jackson State.

961
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: From the very beginning, you know, there's a lot of

962
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: discussion about this, and and I kind of was biden

963
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: into the thought process of Okay, you go to Jackson

964
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: State for a year. You you you learned from from

965
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, from from Prime. You help continue the mission

966
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: of the HBC used to bring attention, which it did.

967
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a ton of attention what Prime

968
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: has done. And obviously when you get them more recruit

969
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of eyeballs now on the program. He

970
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: accomplished both the is in year one. And then you

971
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: go do that, you enjoy, you learn what you you

972
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: need to learn from Coach Prime, and then you go

973
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: to someone somewhere more realistic. In order to win a

974
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: national championship, you put yourself in a situation to where

975
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: you use your one free go you go to Florida

976
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: State or Georgia or Miami or Alabama or whatever it is,

977
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: and then say, okay, I did what I came to do.

978
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: Let me go now. Um. But the hiccup with this

979
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: whole thing is now obviously Prime leaving to go to

980
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: a power five school. Obviously Colorado is a one and

981
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: eleven program, but look what teams have done and and

982
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: I just feel like and why always say like, once

983
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: you get around Coach Prime, and once you get on campus,

984
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: it's and once he has his talents in you, it

985
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: is it is very very difficult for you to let go.

986
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, he gives, he creates some of

987
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: the best kool aid out there. And when you drink

988
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: that cool, that that that Coach Prime kool aid, you

989
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: love it. You feel it, it's in your body, and

990
00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: you want more and more and more of it. Like

991
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: he is that kind of coach, that type of personality.

992
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: I just don't think like once again, like once he

993
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 1: get once you're part of it, I wouldn't want to leave. Man.

994
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: I he's an ultimate salesman. I am buying everything that

995
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: he's saying. Look I I feel you. Um. A lot

996
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: of people are kind of intimating that they think that

997
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: the scene in the locker room after the Jack State

998
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: game was inauthentic or staged. And I want to push

999
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 1: back on that first off, just because it's film doesn't

1000
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: mean it's stage. There's cameras everywhere nowadays for for a

1001
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: reason that just comes with the territory um. Secondly, I've

1002
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: been in that situation. Like I said, I feel like

1003
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,479
Speaker 1: where I feel like I really screwed something up and

1004
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: I've kind of well, I never had a coach talking

1005
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: like that would be. I don't know. I don't know.

1006
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm naive. Maybe I'm naive, and maybe your cynical

1007
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: it was all staged. Viewpoint is correct. That is not

1008
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: the feeling that I got. In my opinion, I think

1009
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: it felt very real and at a certain point doesn't

1010
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: even matter because I think the words that Dion expressed

1011
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: and how he expressed them had value when he was

1012
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: telling this kid, look, you've overcome so much adversity to

1013
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: get here. This is just more of This is the adversity.

1014
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 1: How you respond to this moment will determine the type

1015
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: of man you are going to be. This is what

1016
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: is going to prepare you for life. These are all truths.

1017
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: So like at a certain point doesn't matter its stage

1018
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: or not, because he gave that young kid wisdom, and

1019
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: he made him feel better, and he gave him something

1020
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: to work on and to grow upon. But no, I

1021
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: I think it is legitimate. I think if you're saying

1022
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: at stage, it's just I don't know, I don't know.

1023
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe maybe During this Christmas week we checked

1024
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: the cynicism at the door a little bit. And what

1025
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: I love, Aaron, is that you could talk about speaking

1026
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: of being hopeful and naive like yeah, Colorado went one

1027
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: and eleven. But and honestly, that is one of the

1028
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: great um traits of this new age of college football.

1029
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: Whatever it is in life, hope is a hell of

1030
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: a thing. And one thing this new age does. It

1031
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: provides you with hope if you if you get the

1032
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: right higher who people can be excited about with knowing

1033
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: that you can go into the transfer porter, that maybe

1034
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: you can get some money to pay kids, like anybody

1035
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: can have hope, whereas previously be Okay, we gotta wait

1036
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 1: three to four years to build up. So I'll be

1037
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: very intrigued to see what the uh what the year

1038
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: one return is from Colorado and just how much of

1039
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: that hope they can uh fulfill. Um, Hey, y'all, uh,

1040
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 1: we have to go. Aaron Murray has a radio show

1041
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: to do. Aaron, I'll give you thirty seconds. How do

1042
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: you feel about Will Anderson and Bryce Young playing in

1043
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: the ball game? Appreciate you. Let me get one more.

1044
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: I will celebrating drinking, getting wild. Two kids unlike anyone

1045
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: else there in college football that actually love the game

1046
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,479
Speaker 1: of football. I I hope it starts a trend moving forward.

1047
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: I knock on wood. Please please let these kids stay healthy,

1048
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: because you know one of them get hurt. No kid

1049
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: will ever play a bowl game ever again, So please

1050
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: please think of least, please stay healthy. Yes, wait, they

1051
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: may just get rid of the bull system because they're

1052
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: gonna know. Every kid is just going to not play

1053
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: if we'll inderstand or Bryce Young get hurts in this game.

1054
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: So I am praying they stay healthy. I hope they

1055
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: go out there and kick ass. I hope they dominate,

1056
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: and hope they go on and get you know, picked

1057
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: in the top five in the NFL drafts. Everyone can

1058
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: see there's nothing wrong with playing in the ball game. Yeah, man,

1059
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: I love UM, I understand what guys don't play, but

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