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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece.

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Speaker 2: Imagine your child, your girl. You think all your love,

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Speaker 2: all your money, all your energy, your hopes, your dreams

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Speaker 2: for them, and then suddenly they're gone. They're not just gone,

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Speaker 2: They're trafficked. Your child is trafficked. You know when you

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Speaker 2: look around at the mall or the nail salawn, or

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Speaker 2: the kitchen and restaurant, people there have been trafficked. They

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Speaker 2: are being used much less. Girls now out on the

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Speaker 2: street in motels and hotels turning tricks, I mean young

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Speaker 2: girls twelve thirteen, fourteen fifteen. Today the story of Kristen.

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Speaker 2: Is she still alive? Is she out there? Is she dead?

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Speaker 2: Is she being raped? Right now? Where is this teen

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Speaker 2: girl joining me? Her mother? I'm Nancy Grace. This is

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Speaker 2: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at

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Speaker 2: foxination and series ExM one eleven. How did the whole

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Speaker 2: thing begin? Take a listen to our friend Fox twenty six.

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Speaker 3: I just heard the stories that I've met survivors of

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Speaker 3: sex tragedy, and I can't. I can't stop and look

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Speaker 3: to you other way because it's not.

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Speaker 2: Just my be.

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Speaker 3: It's not just my daughter, so right nobody can find her.

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Speaker 3: My daughter has a price Tell how much does your

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Speaker 3: child worth?

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Speaker 1: They could have.

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Speaker 2: My daughter has a price tag. My daughter has a

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Speaker 2: price tag. How much is your child worth? My daughter

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Speaker 2: is being bought and sold over and over. Right now

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Speaker 2: you are hearing a devastated mom telling her story in

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Speaker 2: the search for her little girl still missing. Take a

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Speaker 2: listen to our forensy k h Ou.

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Speaker 4: The last time she was seen was before going to

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Speaker 4: bed on January tecond The next morning, Robin says, Kristen

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Speaker 5: Paint an agony of knowing what could be happening to

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Speaker 4: Kristin, Robin says, had gone missing in November. Robin says

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Speaker 4: police picked her then fifteen year old daughter up on

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Speaker 4: Buzanette Street. She'd been a victim of sex trafficking.

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Speaker 5: Kristin was not the same child when we recovered her.

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Speaker 6: Kristin Galvan was fifteen years old when she was last

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Speaker 6: seen January tewond Mere, weeks after a brief disappearance interesting now.

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Speaker 2: With boyfriend and she was gone for a week and

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Speaker 5: Have I received a phone call from HPD and they

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Speaker 5: had picture up.

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Speaker 6: On this night an area notorious for prostitution in Houston.

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Speaker 2: This little girl out turning tricks. Joining me right now

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Speaker 2: an off star panel to make sense of what we

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Speaker 2: know right now and hopefully give answers. The tip line

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Speaker 2: hundred repeat nine three six seven sixth zero fifty eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: Please join us in our search for Chris and right

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Speaker 2: now straight out to Kristen's mother, Robin Corey, Robin, thank

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Speaker 2: you for being with us, Thank.

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Speaker 5: You for having me.

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Speaker 2: I'm having a hard time when I drop my children

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Speaker 2: off to school. I miss them, and I worry about them,

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Speaker 2: and I think about them, and I pray about them.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what your life must be like,

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Speaker 2: miss Corey, when you go to bed at night, what

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Speaker 5: That she is safe and.

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Speaker 2: Whole? At this point, really tell me about how Kristen

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Speaker 2: goes missing. I understand she had a boyfriend, which was

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Speaker 2: ploy to get little girls sex trafficked. Teen girls, in

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Speaker 2: her case, just fifteen years old. And the boyfriend promises

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Speaker 5: Well, it started at her high school. We know now

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Speaker 5: that there were paid recruiters inside of her high school

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Speaker 2: What high school is that.

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Speaker 5: I don't wish to put them on blast. It was

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Speaker 2: You know, Miss Corey, I understand that it's thigh Wood

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Speaker 2: why would you think, Ms Corey, that there were paid

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Speaker 5: Because her boyfriend that she she had a boyfriend, which

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Speaker 2: When you say it was the paid recruiter, what do

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Speaker 5: The traffickers pay people to recruit girls. They pay off hotels,

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Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you, when you say he was

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Speaker 5: Kristin liked, you know, athletic guys. Kristin was very active

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Speaker 5: in her school, so she chose the you know, athletic boys,

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Speaker 5: if you would. She had a boyfriend before met his family.

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Speaker 5: You know, I have to meet them before she goes anywhere.

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Speaker 5: And when she met this boy is when she began

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Speaker 2: Well, what was he like?

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Speaker 5: He was not good in my opinion. He was actually

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm trying to figure out when you say he's

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Speaker 2: different from her other boyfriends, how was he different?

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Speaker 5: I just didn't fit her profile. He wasn't in any

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Speaker 5: you know, extracurricular activities, he didn't have a family life,

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Speaker 5: and he you know, had tattoos, which was unusual for

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Speaker 5: me for a seventeen year old to have. And he

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Speaker 5: just you know, red flags everywhere for a mother.

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Speaker 2: I find it really interesting and concerning that his family

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Speaker 2: So now this boy shows up covered in tattoo, is

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Speaker 2: what did you tell your daughter Kristen about this guy?

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Speaker 2: Did you try to stop her from seeing him? Yes?

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Speaker 5: I did try and stop her. I noticed, you know,

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Speaker 5: the messages, the new friendships, full of empty promises, if

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Speaker 5: you would, That's what I believe this new group of

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Speaker 5: And she, like I said, she began to skip school.

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Speaker 5: And I saw her grades kind of you know, deteriorate,

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Speaker 2: What did you do?

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Speaker 5: I sat down and talked with her. You know, hey,

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Speaker 5: what's going on?

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Speaker 2: You know what's the irony? To Doctor John Delatory joining

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Speaker 2: US licensed psychologist mediator specializing in forensic psychology and you

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Speaker 2: can find doctor Delatory at resolution fc S dot com.

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Speaker 2: Doctor John Delatory, thank you for being with us. I

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Speaker 2: know this is true, but I, as a lawyer, don't

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Speaker 2: know the right psychological terms to apply to it. The

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Speaker 2: more you tell your child don't do this, that makes

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Speaker 2: them do exactly that. I will never forget. When my

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Speaker 2: daughter made a departure. This is in middle school of

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Speaker 2: her nice little friend group, and I was practically doing

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Speaker 2: a backflip, and something said, don't come down too hard

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Speaker 2: on her, because it won't you know, like a magnet,

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Speaker 2: if you put it on the wrong side, it goes

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Speaker 2: the other way. And we would gently point out various

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Speaker 2: bad behaviors the little girl had. Ultimately, and it took

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Speaker 2: a while, many months before Lucy figured out this was

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Speaker 2: not right for her. Thank Heaven, because I've noticed the more,

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Speaker 2: especially Lucy. If I tell my son, hey, you shouldn't

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Speaker 2: do so, and so he goes, okay, that's it. Fine,

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Speaker 2: But Lucy is a very independent thinker and she digs

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Speaker 2: her feet in like a mule. So you can't make

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Speaker 2: a child always do what you want to do, unless

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Speaker 2: you want to beat them and lock them in their room.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely don't do that. It's all a part of

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Speaker 7: the normal developmental process of learning independent and learning autonomy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, First of all, delatory, do you

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, I was about to really, you know, give

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Speaker 2: you a black eye on that. How can you say

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Speaker 2: that if you don't have children? But you do, so

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Speaker 2: you know exactly what we're talking about. Go ahead, Yeah, So.

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Speaker 7: You really are confronted as a parent with the idea

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Speaker 7: that you can see the dangers that are out there,

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Speaker 7: to dangers that maybe you at one time were able

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Speaker 7: to avoid or you got caught in, and you see

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Speaker 7: your child making those mistakes. But you're absolutely right, Nancy,

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Speaker 7: when you're saying there are times in which you have

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Speaker 7: which you need to use an actual sledgehammer. But the

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Speaker 7: problem becomes particularly in these scenarios where the outside influence,

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Speaker 7: those are the absolute bad guys, And that's called the

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Speaker 7: Romeo aspect of sex trafficking. They made the person using right.

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Speaker 7: This the individual that they are in a loving relationship

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Speaker 7: when the reality is they're sipically grooming the individual to

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Speaker 7: engage in behaviors that they would not have done had

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Speaker 7: they not been involved in that relationship.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard that phraseology the Romeo aspect, but you're

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Speaker 2: absolutely correct. And guys with me is Christen's mother who

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Speaker 2: was on a desperate search to find her daughter, who

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Speaker 2: I believe was absolutely sex trafficked and is out there

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Speaker 2: somewhere right now. Also with me, in addition to doctor

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Speaker 2: John Delatri is Nima Romani, former federal prosecutor prosecuted numerous

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Speaker 2: human trafficking cases with the US Attorney's Office, author of

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Speaker 2: Harvard to hashtag Nima, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: How many times, Nima, have you seen a group and

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Speaker 2: it's typically boys get together and they do something they

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Speaker 2: are acting pursue it to peer pressure.

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Speaker 9: Of course. I mean it could be drug cartels, trafficking

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Speaker 9: woman gang activity here in the United States. I mean,

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Speaker 9: this is part and parcel of organized crime, and this

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Speaker 9: is how they explicitly.

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Speaker 2: Hey, here's an easy one, Nima, have you ever had

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Speaker 2: a case the theft by receiving a stolen car? I

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Speaker 2: guess you had that when you were state prosecutor. Of course,

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Speaker 2: when there's four guys in the car and one guy

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Speaker 2: the others are horrible and they're like, how did you

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Speaker 2: get into this?

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Speaker 9: That what happens all the time, of course.

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Speaker 2: And they're all charged. They're all charged, doesn't matter if

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Speaker 2: one is good and one is bad. They're all in

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Speaker 2: a stolen car. Of course. Damn, there you go.

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Speaker 10: When that happens all the time, and you know that's

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Speaker 10: just the beginning of criminal activity, really the apex, and

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Speaker 10: it happens to thousands of women, and whether it's moving

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Speaker 10: drugs or extortion or sex trafficking, this is what criminal

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Speaker 9: And fortunately this is one that the FBI handled and

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Speaker 2: Because really difficult. Nima Ramani could not be more correct.

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Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Guys, also with me, Betty Simons. The family's pro bono.

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Speaker 2: That's for free private investigator. That's how much she believes

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Speaker 11: Right it is. And the thing is is these these

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Speaker 6: Robin says, Kristin was pulled into sex trafficking and was

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Speaker 2: Then she vanished. We had given her back her phone,

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Speaker 6: This time, Robin turned to private investigation. She personally scoured

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Speaker 5: Since so I followed their accounts and found out their

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Speaker 2: This mom heart broken up, Robin, Corey is with me.

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Speaker 5: No, Kristin was fifteen. He was seventeen too old for her.

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Speaker 2: He's practically a grown man. That said, how long was

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Speaker 5: Now, she was gone about two weeks before she was recovered.

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Speaker 5: Well, Arian Jackson is a quote unquote aspiring rapper here

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Speaker 2: So he probably tells your daughter, Oh, I can get

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Speaker 5: Hey, Mom, look I got your Louis Baton bag. I'm

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Speaker 5: You're missing school, you know. And remember I have Verizon

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Speaker 2: Oh my, so this is your striking fear in my heart.

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Speaker 2: So you can see where she is and she's talking

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Speaker 5: And then the next day everything goes blake. I'm logged

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Speaker 2: So how did you get her back? That time?

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Speaker 5: Houston Police Department called me. I fell to my knees

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's that is not good. I'm familiar with Bisonette

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Speaker 2: You can find her Caitlinmonty dot com. Caitlin, thank you

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Speaker 8: Nancy, thank you and Robin it's you're just incredible. Biscinette

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Speaker 8: Told you are not coming back inside. You are not

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Speaker 8: It's not fake. You should not be going around there,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about what Robin Corey said. Robin, you said

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Speaker 5: Oh, yes, ma'am. And so when Kristen disappeared the second time,

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Speaker 5: I said, you're going to take me today. You're going

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Speaker 5: And I was so ignorant.

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Speaker 5: You could ask Betty twelve years old?

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Speaker 11: Correct? Well, the youngest girl that I found was eleven.

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Speaker 2: And she was out turning tricks.

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Speaker 11: Correct. We saw her get into multiple different cars. I

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Speaker 2: Why are you calling them dates. They're raping her. She's

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Speaker 2: How did she end up there on Bconette?

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Speaker 11: her mother had a drug addiction problem, and the Child

436
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Speaker 11: Protective Services had stepped in and they had placed her

437
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 11: into a home on Chimney Rock. And Chimney Rock is

438
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 11: notorious for children coming up missing and ending up on Bisonette,

439
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 11: and so it is a CPS win facility. And so

440
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 11: she had ended up at Chimney Rock and from there

441
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 11: she had been recruited by another child and then and

442
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 11: we actually see traffickers out sitting outside of Timney Frock

443
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 11: waiting on these little girls to jump the fence. So

444
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 11: that is how she actually ended up on Bissonette, was

445
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 11: being recruited.

446
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: So they're in a facility that's so bad they run

447
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: away from the facility and then they get into sex

448
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: trafficking and there's nowhere left for them to go because

449
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 2: they run away from the system and they don't have

450
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: a family, They've got nothing left. Betty. Isn't it true

451
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: you have recovered nearly fifty girls, little girls from being

452
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 2: sex trafficked.

453
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 11: That's correct.

454
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: Okay, guys, back to Kristen, So you get her back

455
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: the first time, Robin from being with her so called boyfriend.

456
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: What happens when you get her to and when you

457
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: see her again for the first time.

458
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 5: So, like I said, HPD picked her up. They went

459
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 5: and interviewed her with VICE in Houston, and then the

460
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 5: police office Sir told me to meet them at Texas

461
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 5: Children's Hospital. I went to Texas Children's Hospital and there

462
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 5: was my daughter and the shortest skirt and a tube

463
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 5: top and she also had on like this, this sweater

464
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 5: shawl if you would, and my daughter had four thousand

465
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 5: dollars cash on her long nails. And you know, the

466
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 5: staff at Texas Children's I said, give her a drug test,

467
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 5: you know rape kit. Oh no, we don't normally do

468
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 5: a drug test unless she's in co here. And I said,

469
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 5: she's just in traffic, like what? And they still wouldn't

470
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 5: give her a drug test, And they finally gave her

471
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 5: a saint exam and I went in there for that.

472
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 5: Saw all the bruises on my daughter. You lost about

473
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 5: fifteen to twenty pounds, and she cried during the whole

474
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 5: scene exam.

475
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: What did she say to you?

476
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 5: And she saw her you don't know what they made

477
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 5: me do, screaming.

478
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: So you have her at home and then suddenly she's

479
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: gone again.

480
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 5: Well Nancy. So when we recovered her, I had to

481
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 5: get her away from Houston. I pulled her from that

482
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 5: school so quick. And my mom, she's a retired civil engineer,

483
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 5: bliss her heart. She was actually taking care of my

484
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 5: sick dad who passed away since then. And I had

485
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 5: to get her away from Houston because as I began

486
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 5: to uncover these instagrams and these men and Kristen, you know,

487
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 5: she didn't come forth in the beginning, but about a

488
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 5: week and a half later, after we started the traumaccounting,

489
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 5: the psychiatry appointment, you know, her running down the street,

490
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 5: they're going to kill you all, her brother running down

491
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 5: and chasing her. She finally started to come forth Nancy

492
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 5: and said, Mom, I want to start talking about who

493
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 5: and what did this to me? I said, baby, you're

494
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 5: so brave. That's going to help everybody so much to

495
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 5: get these men off the streets. Because she knew it

496
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 5: wasn't right, Nancy. So Kristen started to come forth. We

497
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 5: called Vice, had them come out interview her. We handed

498
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 5: over her phone, and so the holidays, you know, came,

499
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 5: and you know, we were looking for facilities for human

500
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 5: trafficking victims. There's ultimately zero in Houston, or you have

501
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 5: to pay fifteen hundred dollars a day for your child

502
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 5: to get the treatment she deserves. And of course nobody

503
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 5: works during the holidays. You know, everybody's so busy, and

504
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 5: I have my my victim child who you know, nights

505
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 5: hair screaming, just she wasn't the same child, and I

506
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 5: can virtually get no help.

507
00:30:59,040 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: What happened?

508
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 5: Then Christmas passes, and you know you tried taking the

509
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 5: phone away from your fifteen year old. You know, it's

510
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 5: their lifeline. They'd used it for school, and so we

511
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 5: gave it back and she was only allowed to have it,

512
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 5: you know, in the kitchen where everybody could see her.

513
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 5: And then we went to take my sister. My sister's

514
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 5: a general in the army, and we went to take

515
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 5: my sister back to Fort Hood after the holidays January first,

516
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 5: and my dad was left there to watch Kristen and

517
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 5: she was gone that night.

518
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: When you got back and realized she was gone, what

519
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: went through your mind? Tell me?

520
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 5: I need an amber alert. You know, I knew, you know,

521
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 5: at the time, even I didn't know that children ran

522
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 5: back to their traffickers. Nancy, I had no idea. And

523
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 5: you know, I was handing a resource sheet with a

524
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 5: bunch of what eight hundred numbers for my traffic file.

525
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: You what, you know, it's a phenomena. People don't get.

526
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Greece, you.

527
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: Know, to Nima Romani joining us for a federal prosecutor

528
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: who has prosecuted countless human trafficking cases in the US.

529
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: It can be a number of things. The perp can

530
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: threaten a child. The perp can say I'm going to

531
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: kill your mom now I know where she is, or

532
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: just any number of ploys used to make the child

533
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: so afraid they go with the captor. I've seen it

534
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: so many times. It's hard for people to understand, but

535
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: you got to realize, this is a child. A child.

536
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, and we're talking about these commercial sex acts. I

537
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 9: mean the federal statutes that talk about fraud, force, coersion,

538
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 9: but this is all presumed when you're dealing with a minor.

539
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 9: A girl is young, it's fifteen, like Christen. I mean,

540
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 9: the statute presumed that these young women they cannot consent

541
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 9: to be like that, that they are being coerced. The

542
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 9: fraud is presumed, the force is presumed. So if we

543
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 9: get the victims that are cooperating, if we can identify

544
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 9: these johns, if we can arrest these perpetrators, they're very

545
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 9: good cases to prosecute. But unfortunately they're just really tough

546
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 9: to find.

547
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: These women, they really are. And you know, jumping off

548
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: what Nima is saying, doctor delatry. A lot of people

549
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: don't understand, but it's akin to an abused woman that

550
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: has lived in the cycle of abuse. They're afraid to

551
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: get away, they're afraid not to go back. They're just

552
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: living in fear. Can you explain it?

553
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 7: Yeah. And it's not only just the living and spear

554
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 7: it's the threat that violence can happen, not not only

555
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 7: to you, but to your family members. It's that right

556
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 7: because the victim in the case, they don't want these

557
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 7: things to happen, but they are forced to do them

558
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 7: because they're force fed drugs and their force fed the

559
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 7: idea that aggressive acts are going to be happening to

560
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 7: their family if they don't do these things.

561
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: Well, and we heard that doctor Della Torri when Robin

562
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: described her daughter being twenty pounds underweight, covered in bruises,

563
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 2: crying about what was done to her and what she

564
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: was forced to be done when she was sex trafficked.

565
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: And isn't it true, Robin Corey, that your daughter told

566
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: you that your life and your family was threatened if

567
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: she did not go with a sex trafficker.

568
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 5: Yes, she said they had pictures of all of us

569
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 5: and she also described and I have it in her

570
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 5: journal she hand wrote it. You know that they had

571
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 5: people in a house controlling their social media. You know,

572
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 5: this is the organized crime at its finest nancy. It's

573
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 5: not just the traffickers, it's the men inside controlling the

574
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 5: social media, making the dates, all of that too.

575
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 11: It's also a family affair, you know. Not only is

576
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 11: Eric in charge, his mother is charged as well.

577
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 9: Yep, his own.

578
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: So they're all in the child sex trafficking business. It's

579
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: like a family business for Pete's sake, guys, take a

580
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 2: listen to our cut six from Fox twenty six.

581
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 6: Robin even flew to Atlanta after the district attorney showed

582
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 6: her a picture that they thought was Kristen.

583
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 2: That picture was one hundred percent like my daughter. Where

584
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: was the picture from? It was taken in Atlanta.

585
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 5: So I then scoured the web and found my daughter

586
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 5: on an esport website. I flew up there and there

587
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 5: was a few other girls listed in the same as

588
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 5: mad as her.

589
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: I found them as well. She wasn't okay, Robin. I'm

590
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 2: trying to take in what you're telling me, and I've

591
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: had other parents tell me the same thing, and they're

592
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 2: desperate attempt to try to find their children, their missing

593
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 2: girl or boy. They go online and find their teen

594
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: child on an escort website, a hooker site.

595
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

596
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 5: So the Houston DA, you know, is trying to convict

597
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 5: these men in jail that we have that Kristen told on.

598
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 5: And I get a pick a call from the Houston

599
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 5: DA and they sent me a picture of kristin her

600
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 5: faith in her hands. And I know my daughter's body

601
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 5: like the back of my hand, every freckle, every birthmark,

602
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 5: and especially Kristen's hands, and I was sure that was Kristen.

603
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of Kristen's and you know, and

604
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 5: this was her. And so they would not give me

605
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 5: the website.

606
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: So we found the law on a hooker site, yes.

607
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 5: Ma'am, an escort website.

608
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 4: Mm hm.

609
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: And what did you do?

610
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 5: And the ad was listed out of Georgia And that's

611
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 5: when it became an FBI case as well, by the way,

612
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 5: so it had proven that she had crossed state lines.

613
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 5: That's when it became a federal case. And I just

614
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 5: couldn't hold back, you know, I had to go to Atlanta,

615
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 5: and oh my god, Atlanta is just as bad as Houston,

616
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 5: it's not worse.

617
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: What happened when you got to Atlanta and your search

618
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 2: for your daughter.

619
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 5: I was handing out flyers, desperately searching. It was actually

620
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 5: when they had that killing at the spa, that was

621
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 5: human traffic, you know that. Yeah, that was at that time,

622
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 5: and I went up there and she just wasn't there.

623
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 5: Nobody was given any information.

624
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 2: When the killer went on the rampage and started shooting

625
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: up spas. In other words, locations for sex trafficking and hookers. Guys,

626
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: take a listen to our cut to in our friends.

627
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 12: De Mollie, Gary and Jackson previously pleaded guilty to sex

628
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 12: trafficking miners with force, fraud, or coercion, and today a

629
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 12: federal judge sentenced the twenty four year old to twenty

630
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 12: seven years in prison. Now, Jackson was a local rapper

631
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 12: who investigators say kept twelve girls and women in a

632
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 12: house here in Houston, and they say he trafficked them

633
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 12: for sex. Now, according to the judge, Jackson gave the

634
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 12: ladies drugs and used threats and beatings to force them

635
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 12: to comply with him.

636
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: Now.

637
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 12: One of Jackson's victims, according to the court records, was

638
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 12: fifteen year old Kristin Galvan. She went missing from her

639
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 12: home in spring, and her loved ones have been searching

640
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 12: for her ever since. She still hasn't been found.

641
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 2: Kay Lemonte joining us Houston journalists, what can you tell

642
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: me about this guy Jackson?

643
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Speaker 8: And Jackson is not an unfortunately and uncommon story, as

644
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 8: you've heard Robin say, this is a very common mo

645
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 8: of this sort of ring leader who's got the power

646
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 8: and is part of this machine. Jackson's mother was involved.

647
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 8: Jackson pleaded that he, you know, life was hard for him.

648
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 8: He didn't mean to cause all this, you know, he

649
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 8: tried to sort of play a pity card once it

650
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 8: got down to the eleventh hour. But it's just, you know,

651
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 8: you just struggle to think about the girls in that house.

652
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 8: And I think it's very telling.

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Speaker 2: Could he tell us anything about where is Kristen? No?

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Speaker 8: And his I believe his father said, if we knew,

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Speaker 8: we would tell you. But that's you know, taked out

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Speaker 8: for what it's worth. And it says a lot that

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Speaker 8: Kristin had all that money on her when she was

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Speaker 8: found the first time and rescued the first time. Four

659
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Speaker 8: thousand dollars can get you out of town. But it

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Speaker 8: shows you just how powerful individuals like this become. That

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Speaker 8: Kristen felt watched it felt like she couldn't leave, felt

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Speaker 8: like the danger was right over her shoulder. As you

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Speaker 8: heard Robin say, she was paranoid. So you've got this

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Speaker 8: young man who is choosing to use his life for

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00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 8: this purpose, and that's not uncommon. And the cycle of

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Speaker 8: this system that pulls in individuals and makes them part

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00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 8: of these gangs and part of this system. I mean,

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Speaker 8: it's horrifying to see just how many young life are

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Speaker 8: being ruined and just how many young people are participating

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Speaker 8: in this at a young age. This is not some

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Speaker 8: guy who'd been around for decades and learned how to

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Speaker 8: do this. He was young. His mother was involved, so

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Speaker 8: he was being influenced into it. It's horrifying. And yeah,

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Speaker 8: he was trying to be a rapper at the same time,

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Speaker 8: you know, thinking he was going to rise up in

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Speaker 8: the music business while he was also on the side

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Speaker 8: ruining lives and taking part in something like this. It's

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Speaker 8: horrifying and it is alarming for parents. As a mother

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Speaker 8: of three myself, it scares me.

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Speaker 2: Robin, do you believe in your heart Kristin is still alive?

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Speaker 7: Appre she is.

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Speaker 5: I appreci she is because I don't even want to

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Speaker 5: think about if she's not.

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Speaker 2: When was the last time you heard from her?

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Speaker 5: January first of twenty twenty. Kristin would not do this.

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Speaker 5: Kristin would not not leave her brothers. She has two

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Speaker 5: little brothers. Kristin would not you know her, it would

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Speaker 5: not you know, she wouldn't do this to her family. Nancy,

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Speaker 5: Kristen just and she doesn't have the capabilities to you know,

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Speaker 5: she was just barely getting her permit, she was in

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Speaker 5: driving school.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe that there have been credible sightings of

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Speaker 2: your daughter?

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Speaker 5: Oh Man, there's been so many, Nancy, but they all

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Speaker 5: were not Kristen. We get curly haired leads all the time.

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Speaker 5: They're just not Kristen.

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Speaker 2: The tip line is nine three six seven six zero

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Speaker 2: fifty eight hundred repeat nine three six seven six zero

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Speaker 2: fifty eight hundred. The search for Kristen goes on. Goodbye friend,