1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: The Fields on a group proudly presents Huddle Up with 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, J P. Shacker, John Osan and NFL Network 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: on George Jackson Hill Jack wars everything's got to be 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: about the future, has got to be about tomorrow and 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: bringing all that into focus as we know, attack the season. 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks starts right now. Welcome into 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, March J P. 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Shadrick with Bucky Brooks and John Osier. Good order, Bucky 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: Brooks and then John Areson. Mean it's it's it's consistent, 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: it's good. I like it. I'm right. Well, here we are. 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: It is. Free agency is underway. The Jags of course 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: have done some damage the first week of free agency. 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: It is now Pro Day season as well with the 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: free agency stuff coming up. But don't look now, we're 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: only a few week away from the start of the 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: off season program as well. But Bucky, it's quarterback Pro 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,639 Speaker 1: Day season that's taking up your time this week. Um 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: you know remember you know I saw a thing on 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: this on Facebook. Right, They do these memory things that 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: pay so many years ago this happened. You posted this, 22 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: We probably have some similar memories. I posted photos from 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewaters pro day at Louisville. Right. It was also 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: the same year as Johnny Manziel and Blake Bortles. Of course, UM, 25 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, this quarterback class might not have the flashy 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: names of that class, Maybe they'll have better success. Um. 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: What do you like so far about the quarterback week 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: in the pro days? Bucky? Uh? You know, JP, I 29 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: think we have to kind of talk about it in 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: terms of the way that we're seeing the league's shift. 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: We're seeing the size of you change in the way 32 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: people are treating the quarterback, and that will have a 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: ripple effect on the college game and the college quarterbacks 34 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: that are in this draft. Um, we've never seen as 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: much term over in movement up top of the National 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: Football League with um quote unquote elite quarterbacks changing teams 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: still in their prime, and that has led us to 38 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: look at the quarterback position a little differently. I think 39 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: when the money escalated and got to the point where 40 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: it's forty million dollars for um, your high end quarterbacks, 41 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: I think teams are now making decisions based on if 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 1: I don't have what I deemed to be an elite quarterback. 43 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm not just going to pay him to keep him around. Uh, 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: there was a time where we were doing that. We 45 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: saw that even in Jacksonville, where maybe Blake Borders wasn't 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: a high end guy, but he still got paid like that. 47 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: And what happens upsets to apple Cart and the locker 48 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: room teams, and they're going away from that. And I 49 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: think what happened in the postseason when you saw Pat 50 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Matt Staff, where the 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: quarterback made plays, I think it raised the bar for 52 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: what we expect from the quarterback. And so now when 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: we look at these college guys in the to draft, 54 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if people are really fired up about 55 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: the class unless you have great tools. And so the 56 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: entrigue yesterday was on Malik Willis, and Malik Willis has 57 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: tools that will be reminiscent of what we saw from 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: like Josh Allen and Pat Mahomes and those guys where 59 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: you're almost doing like baseball scouting, where you kind of 60 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: ignore the performance and the production and you're you're making 61 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: the evaluation based on what they bring to the table physically, 62 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: raw arm, talent, uh, athleticism and that stuff, and then 63 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: you're hoping that you can coach them up and maybe 64 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: if it hits you get one of those elite quarterbacks. 65 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: But I don't think people now are selling for mediocrity, 66 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: which really makes the conversation interesting when we start thinking 67 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: about how Trevor Lawrence needs to progress over the next 68 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: four years before you have to start doing that big, 69 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: big pay day, and how you build your team around 70 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: an elite quarterback making big money. I'll say this leading 71 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: into a question for the scout, but what you just said, 72 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: But key, if I was a GM, which obviously I'm 73 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: never going to be a GM, I think you will 74 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: sell yourself short scouting a guy and drafting him high 75 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: and thinking that you're going to develop a guy because 76 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: he has tools and he's never shown it. The old 77 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: man shouting at at our clouds inside and he says 78 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: that is a risky way to get a quarterback. As 79 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: somebody who sat in those rooms, as somebody who you know, 80 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: I think I could be a GM as yourself. Would 81 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: that not scare the heck out of you? Well, I 82 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: think if you if you look at it this way, 83 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: what we're talking about our prototypes. So there are two 84 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: ways to do it where you can look at the 85 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: prototypical guy who has a height, weight, arm, talent, checks 86 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: off all the intangible qualities and those things, and you're like, look, 87 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: the performance hasn't always been clean, but the odd suggest 88 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: that the elite quarterbacks have X, Y and z. This 89 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: guy has that. He just hasn't put it together as 90 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: opposed to the noodle larm quarterback that we know is 91 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: just a guy, but then we get him and we 92 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: get comfortable with him being the quarterback, and then we 93 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: don't want to move on because we're like, yeah, he 94 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: doesn't have this, but we don't want to go out 95 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: and search for better. I think what you're now seeing 96 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: is everyone is on the hunt to get a top 97 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: five guy, and if you're not a top five guy, 98 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: it's just not a birth right for you to be 99 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback long term for a franchise. I think 100 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: that's the main shift, and so yeah, you don't necessarily 101 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: want to make those gambles. But what you do now, John, 102 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: is you swinging. You swing for the fences, and if 103 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: you don't like it, you move on and get the 104 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: next one before when we talk about drafting guys in 105 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: the first round, you draft to go in the first round. 106 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: You kind of married to him for a long time. 107 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns moved off of Baker Mayfield he was 108 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick and let him into a 109 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: post A playoff win, and they're like, yeah, we know 110 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: we need better to beat the other guys. That's where 111 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: we're seeing the bar is now going. They're raising the 112 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: bar for expectations for quarterbacks, and I like it because 113 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: that's how the bar was always raised for position players. 114 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: We settled with quarterbacks because we're like, yeah, we don't 115 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: want to bring you in competition, whereas we should always 116 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: want the best quarterback that we can find. Rams were 117 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: like that too, golf right, and then we can't get 118 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: over the humpless go get Matthew Stafford and it worked 119 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: out for them a super Bowl. Yeah, because now you 120 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: have to think about the position and talent and tools, 121 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: and so in Jacksonville, we should feel better about Trevor 122 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: Lawrence because even though last year, the rookie year, like 123 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: the numbers weren't what we like, the talent and the 124 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: tools still show up. The talent shows up, the tools. 125 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: He's long, he's athletic, he has great arm talent. You 126 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: you gamble on those guys, the guys who don't have that, 127 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: You're quick to move on because ideally, man, you want 128 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: the guy who not only can play, but he also 129 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: wins the beauty pageant when it comes to the attribute, 130 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: I wonder, um, and maybe it's because I've seen it 131 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: the other way in my whole career. Do you think 132 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: this will be the trend? Because it feels so chaotic 133 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: and usually in the NFL things settled down after a 134 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: time like this. Do you think this is gonna be 135 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: a trend? Do you think me? Or I guess they 136 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: has to play out. If it works, then people are 137 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: gonna follow it. If it doesn't, people won't. Right. Yeah, Well, 138 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: I think the trend has been the last two years. 139 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: You've seen teams be very aggressive, uh and getting guys 140 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: that they felt like it helped him get over the hump. Uh. 141 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: The Sampa Bay Buccaneers did it with Tom Brady. Then 142 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: Tom Brady brought in all of his friends and it 143 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: worked out. They want a Super Bowl. You look at 144 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: the l A Rams. The L A Rams basically gave 145 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: up a ton of draft picks to get premier players, 146 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: and those premier players helped them bring back a Super Bowl. 147 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: And so now what you're seeing is people aren't as 148 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: married to the draft picks as they used to be 149 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: because there's an old, antiquated thing. I want to draft 150 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: and develop. I want to bring all these draft picks in. 151 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna hit on them, and then we're gonna raise 152 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: them up. Well, we're seeing like, uh, maybe I pay 153 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: the premium to get really good players, and really good 154 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: players can help you win games. And yeah, we need 155 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: to have some guys that develop into role players, but 156 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: I need stars and stars that was winning in this league. 157 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: You know, there's the old theory that quarterbacks always get 158 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: pushed up the board. Um, since quarterback Week, I'll ask 159 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: you this, Uh, this seems like the year that might 160 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 1: test that theory. I think anybody thinks there's a quote 161 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: unquote elite guy number one worthy pick. Uh. But I 162 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: guess the question is how much will that theory be tested? 163 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: How much will somebody get pushed up? And are you 164 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna run a big risk of overdrafting this year because 165 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: of that? So I think what we're seeing is a 166 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: market correction of that silly theory that somehow got in 167 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: the draft rooms where a we pushed quarterbacks up. So 168 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: now what you're seeing all these teams scrambling to find 169 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: these premier quarterbacks. Guys had to move off of those 170 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: guys that were pushed up the board, and what we're 171 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: seeing other guys left behind. You know, Baker Mayfield probably 172 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: should have never been a number one overall pick. You 173 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: look at Sam Donald and some of the other guys 174 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: that have gone through it. We're moving off of those guys. 175 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: I think now we have, Man, it's only like like 176 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: maybe one quarterback playing with his original team after being 177 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: a high pick or whatever. Russell Wilson has moved on. 178 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I just think it is now to the 179 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: point where, um, we're having higher standards for quarterbacks, and 180 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: we're not going to just take a guy because we 181 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: need a guy. We need to take a legitimate, high 182 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: end guy. If we're gonna invest in it, you don't 183 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: want to settle, because what happens is when you sett 184 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: up for a draft pick, you're now married to him 185 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: for five years, and if you know that he's not 186 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: that guy, what are we doing. It's just too hard 187 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: to win in this league when particularly in the a 188 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: f C. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, 189 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. I mean, on and on and on. Matt 190 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: Ryan is now you have to draft thinking the kid 191 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: that we're going to draft, can he beat Josh Allen 192 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: in the shootout? Canny be, Patrick Mahomes? Can he be? 193 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: If he can't, then you need to move on and 194 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: just keep waiting for the guy that that you can 195 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: get that can beat those guys. This is a huddle 196 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: of podcast j P Shadrick, John Osier, and Bucky Brooks 197 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: Ohio State Pro Day today. Wide receivers all over the place. 198 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: Of course, Garrett Wilson, cris olav will have eyes all 199 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: over them. But going back to the quarterback conversation, c J. 200 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: Strouds is going to be throwing to them. He's not 201 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: eligible to come out this year in the NFL draft, 202 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: and that's that's you know, all eyes on Columbus today, Bucky, Yeah, 203 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: all eyes on Columbus because you get an opportunity to 204 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: see the wide receivers who are terrific, outstanding. Garrett Wilson, 205 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: um cris Olive. They have a tied in Jeremy Ruckert 206 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: who is intriguing. Yeah, but all eyes are on those playmakers. 207 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: But while you're looking at the playmakers, you can't help 208 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: but look at the passer and C. J. Stroud right now, 209 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: like some guys are kind of penciling him and we 210 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: just put an infrencil Npin. But he's an intriguing prospect 211 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: in three where we'll talk about him maybe being the 212 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: top quarterback in that class if he eventually elects to 213 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: come out, and so to get a chance to get 214 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: around him, to see him spend it to his guys. 215 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: You certainly make notes on those kinds of things, and 216 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: it helps you as you begin to advance and look 217 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: ahead to next year's class. I have to wonder, Bucky, 218 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: and maybe I'm wrong, but h I've been wrong before, 219 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: you know, JP, it's a I wonder if we are 220 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: looking at the beginnings of the end for the pro 221 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: day concept with the injuries. Yeah, your tweet earlier in 222 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: the week, David Jabo had the achilles injury, John and 223 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: at Michigan and the Maiden Hundredson canceled his workout with 224 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: the Jags apparently, And maybe I'm just way off base, 225 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: but sort of with some of the players and the 226 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: agents sort of standing up against the combine, maybe a 227 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: little more power on that end. It is a risk, 228 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: and there is a school of thought of you know, 229 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: if if you don't know these guys by the time 230 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: they finished college, is it really necessary to put him 231 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: through this Now. I also know there's the other side 232 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: of it, which is that you can tear and Achilles 233 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: walking down the street. You know, there's risk and everything. 234 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: So is there any chance that we see these diminished 235 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: go away or maybe just the star is not participating. 236 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: I guess it's probably the endgame. Yeah, it starts with 237 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: the stars first. And look, yeah, I think we're at 238 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: the point where you mitigate the risks when it comes 239 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: to it. If I'm a high they decorated prospect where 240 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: I put together numbers and I've got a lot of 241 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: buzz and conversation that I might be a first round pick. 242 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if the risk is worth the reward 243 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: and maybe moving up a few spots, and so you 244 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: kind of have to figure out what do I want 245 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: to do and where am I at? Because if they 246 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: can't figure out off tape whether I can play or not, 247 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: I really don't know if a workout is going to 248 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: change that perception outside of kind of knowing what kind 249 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: of athletes they are. I would say this, if I 250 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: could advise a top prospect, I would say, he go 251 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: through the process, finished the season, do the stuff at 252 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: the combine, and immediately after the combin we're done. Because 253 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: if I work out at the combine, if I do 254 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: all the stuff at the combine, everyone has seen me, 255 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,599 Speaker 1: everyone's seen me work out. If you can't figure it 256 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: out after those two things are done, then you have 257 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: to roll the dice and and figure it out on 258 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: your own, because I just I just think now with 259 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: the amount of money that we're talking about particuarly losing, 260 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: if I'm an agent, I just have to advise my 261 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: player to kind of sit and chill. And if we 262 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: think about old school scouting, old school scouting methods would 263 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: tell you you make the evaluation based off the film, 264 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,359 Speaker 1: not the workout. So if I have um the film, 265 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: I get the confirmed numbers at the workout, meaning height, weight, 266 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: those things, speed, I get that there. I shouldn't necessarily 267 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: need to go back to the pro day to then 268 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: see some other stuff because what happens is you have 269 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: over zealous coaches and scouts who they can't help themselves, right, 270 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: because you gotta remember the coaches, they haven't touched their 271 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: players since the end of the year December. They can't 272 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: They can't wait to get on the grass and have 273 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: some guys that kind of move around and show that stuff. 274 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: And so sometimes those worst workouts can escalate in intensity 275 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: and sometimes you have to protect the players from there. Yeah, 276 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: I think there's something to you know, we talked about 277 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, guys are training so hard 278 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: for the forty for example? Uh, are they training in 279 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: such a way that puts them at risk if they 280 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: actually go out and run a route. I just you know, 281 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: to me, I wonder if if the scouts just can't 282 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: do the job. Uh, And just get back to every 283 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: GM you ever talked to, and every scout you ever 284 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: talked to, will say, the reality is the combine is 285 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: more for show than it is for scouting and terms 286 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: of how they really rate players. So, oh yes, and 287 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: it's in primetime now, Bucky's all over. It may not 288 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: want that. You may get into a deal where the 289 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: league wants to have this thing and uh, players American idol. 290 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: It's American idol. Mary, That's where we love it to 291 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: be American Idol. We would love to have a bunch 292 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: of little regional combines all over the country that you 293 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: have to be the top guy at the regional combine 294 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: to earn your golden ticket to come to Indianapolis. Can 295 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: you imagine that that would be perfect for us to 296 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: see in chronicle the whereabouts and this got made at 297 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis, Like look at little Joey. Joey gets a 298 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: chance to run in front of the scouts. We get 299 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: all the ratings and commercials. But but that's part of 300 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: that's part of the dream, and so you want to 301 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: sell that. But yeah, you're right, the combine is definitely 302 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: all for show. Now it's a TV event. I mean 303 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: you you talk to scouts, like even the guys in 304 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: the building, they're knowing because the schedule is flipped because 305 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: we accommodate from time. Now they're running at night and 306 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: so they switched to interviews. Yeah, that's a big event. 307 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's fun, though what else we're gonna talk about. 308 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: It's fun, but it's not fun for the players who 309 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: risk injury. So again, I just wonder if we're not 310 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: seeing a trend where eventually we see a different dynamic 311 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: there in terms of the stars. Now just the top guys, 312 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: the top, These top guys may see yeah, we may 313 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: see the top guys go. But hey, the guys Day 314 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: two or Lord, they they have to work. If you 315 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: guys who want the dream, who are chasing the dream, 316 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: yeah absolutely, I mean yeah, they gotta go prove they 317 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: have to go get it. So there's always enough guys 318 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: for us to watch. We may just remember that there 319 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: was a time John where the top guys never worked 320 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: out of and they never worked out. Then they put 321 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: it on TV, and that encouraged those guys to begin 322 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: to work out and that stuff. And so it may 323 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: kind of come back full circle where the store the 324 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: stars don't work out anymore. We just see all the 325 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: other guys. But then the league will come back and 326 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: maybe counting and say, hey we gotta workout Warrior of 327 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: the Weekend. There might be a little incentive for them 328 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: to work out. I tell you my Bill Pollyon story 329 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: on that. For two or three years, I'm with the Colts, 330 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: and he was railing against the idea of it being 331 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: on on on TV because every old school GM and 332 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: builds as old school as it gets. It's it's a 333 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: football event. We don't want it on TV. First year back, 334 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: everybody ran, he loved it. Everybody ran it got him 335 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: what they wanted. So uh but I think the day's 336 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: very very running are coming to an end, even on TV. 337 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: So there you have it. The Pro Day season is here. 338 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: But for how long we're back? At a moment social 339 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: media questions, Yes we uh we put the bat signal out. 340 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 1: We'll figure out what we've come up with after this. 341 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: Welcome back, j P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, John Ozer on 342 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: the Huddle Up Podcast. There's no better time to become 343 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: a Dailies Place Blue member than right now. Get access 344 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: to the best seats and amenities, premium parking and more 345 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: for all shows during the season at Daily's Place. This 346 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: year shaping up to be one of the best yet, 347 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: So don't miss out and don't forget Thursday's v I 348 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: P Dailies Place event. You can enjoy it like the 349 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: stars and talk about your options for the twenty two season. Yeah, 350 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: so checking out Daily's Place dot com for all the information. 351 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: Dave Matthews two nights in June. We've got a lot 352 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: of great shows coming up at Daily's Place. Now let's 353 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: get to social media questions, and there has been a 354 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: little activity, just as in the time frame we've been 355 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: recording this podcast. Actually, Ian Rappaport, your colleague and NFL 356 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: network Bucky put out a tweet just a few moments 357 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: ago said, is there another blockbuster coming? Despite an offer 358 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: from the Chiefs that would make superstar Tyreek Hill one 359 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: of the highest paid receivers, extension talks have stalled, and 360 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: Kansas City has now given Hill's agent permission to seek 361 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: a trade. Sources say, our first question we're gonna get 362 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: to to day is from at that guy, Tyler, Is 363 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: it even possible to add Tyreek Hill? If not, can Bucky? 364 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: Can you rank the best wide receivers in the draft? 365 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: We should be looking at number thirty three overall Tyreek Hill? 366 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. The contract, He's a one million dollar cap 367 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: hit for the Chiefs this year, two point six dead 368 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: money to them. Uh. I don't think you can make 369 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: that move in Jacksonville just because you don't have to 370 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: pay him. You've already paid all those other guys. I 371 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: don't know if you can fit him in to the mix. 372 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: And then the other thing is like you still got 373 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: a dig in the background because there's still some character 374 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: stuff that came out when he was a drafted that 375 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: you have to be comfortable with when you're fan base. 376 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: You know UM, but he's an intriguing option as a 377 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: big time player. UM. The second part of the question 378 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: was tied in at is that what you ask wide receivers? 379 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: We mentioned too earlier. The guys that you know Ohio State, 380 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: they're there a million of him. John Dodson could be 381 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: in the mix. UM. Sky More from Western Michigan could 382 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: be a guy UM that could ask some juice and 383 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: sizzle to the lineup. UM. A guy that I like, 384 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: but I worry about a speed not being enough to 385 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: kind of change the or impact the wide receiver corps 386 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: would be David Bill from Perdue. UM. There are many 387 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: guys I would say keep an eye on this guy 388 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: from North Dakota State, Christian Watson. Uh. Not in the thirties, 389 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: but maybe late second round, early third round. Christian Watson 390 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: is a guy that dominant, has great size, great length, 391 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: and when we think about the success that Cooper Cup 392 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: hat game is not identical. But he could be the 393 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: next guy from a small school to kind of pop 394 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: as a as a big time pro and Bucky you 395 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: said it before, but for the purposes of this question, 396 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: you think it's possible in this draft to get a 397 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: long term big time player thirty three wide receiver, right, absolutely, 398 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: Like that's that's that's where you want to be. You 399 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: want to be because someone So here's the thing, all 400 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: thirty two draft wards are different, Um, and so someone 401 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: is going to take a player that you deem to 402 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: be not necessarily a great player, and so there's going 403 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: to leave someone that's how on your board there in 404 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: the second round. So yeah, I think you can find 405 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 1: you can find guys. I think it might be an 406 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: opportunity to get Um another offensive lineman if you say 407 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: that you still need some more help there, you have 408 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get any of your pass catchers that 409 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: you want. And I think you also can get a 410 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: corner you know. I mean, it's gonna be wide open 411 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: for you at that point. This is the Huddle Up Podcast. 412 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: We continue with social media questions and our next one 413 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: is at Hodari eleven. Is there anything that might give 414 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: you hesitation in drafting Aiden Hutchinson? Um, I would say 415 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,239 Speaker 1: this about a Hutchinson like people that Jenica lately get 416 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: a chance to see him against Georgia, and so that 417 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: one game kind of stands out to them in their mind. 418 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: I think the best thing that he is. I think 419 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: you knew exactly what you're getting. Um, You're getting a 420 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: high end player who has a tremendous motor. He has 421 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: great hand skills. Um, he's somewhere in that mix between 422 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: the bosses. Uh, he's not quite Joey and he's somewhere 423 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: in there with Nick in terms of how he's able 424 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: to kind of impact the game off the edge. When 425 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: you think about those two guys, those two guys have 426 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: been Pro Bowl players. I think he has that kind 427 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: of talent um. A lot of people underrate maybe his athleticism. 428 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: But all you have to do is look at the 429 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: comment Live to numbers. Numbers are ridiculous. He's a freak 430 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: athlete who has hand skills and a high motor. I 431 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: think people have to look beyond the packaging. This is 432 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: a really good player. He's very dynamic. At this point, 433 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: j P, I would draft Ted Bosa. I don't care what, 434 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: I don't care, long lost brother, Frank Bill, whatever, give me. 435 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: I love us to the point on that Jew is 436 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: your game. They focused all their energy Georgia did against 437 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson. Basically in that game, you can't do that 438 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: because there's like three other guys that can rush the 439 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: pass here in the NFL on a defensive line, So 440 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: you can't really put your entire focus on that one player. 441 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: So in theory, you'll have some opportunities when it did 442 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: a true Bucky that with every guy at the top 443 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: of this draft, if you're gonna be able to pick 444 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: a hole in him somewhere. Yeah, So so let's just 445 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: think about who's at the top and what's available. So 446 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: you have the three offensive tackles that you can talk about, 447 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: Evan neil, Ikey Kwanu, Charles Cross. You have the pass 448 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: rushers Aidan Hussinson, Cavan Tipado. The wild card is uh 449 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: Walker from Georgian. And the thing that separates it is 450 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: when you're going through all that and you're at the 451 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: number one, you think about, who's the guy that I 452 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: can rely on that can give me consistent production that 453 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: is worthy of being a number one. When we think 454 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: about number one, the skills should be a guy that 455 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: can be a perennial Pro Bowl player, a guy who 456 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: can be a pillar as a position for your franchise 457 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: for for ten years. Everything that we know about Aidan 458 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: Hutchinson in terms of this football character is off the charts. 459 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: Hard worker, diligent, gets it professional and all of his 460 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: actions great leader, um, very productive player and we saw 461 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: as dominant show up on tape. Um. The athleticism is there, 462 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: all the things there. And so if you take a 463 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: player like that and it happens to feel I mean, 464 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: you talked about a guy that checks off all the 465 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: boxes coming in with some of the other guys like 466 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: iky Ikuana, great athlete, Mala Brawler needs some developmental school. 467 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: But then what I would say is where do we playing? 468 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: If you get him, where where does he play? Where 469 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: does he fit? What does he mean for Walker a little? 470 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: And those things? Same thing with Evan Neil. Evan Hill 471 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: is more we're finding Iggy Kuana, but he has some 472 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: athletic things that might be a little is when it 473 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: comes to dealing with the speed. And then Cross is 474 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: more past protector than Mala Brawl in the run game. 475 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: So if you're gonna throw or fifty times, he's kind 476 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: of the guy that you would prefer. And then the 477 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: other pastors of Cabin Tippo though. I mean it's kind 478 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: of I won't say fully boom or bus, but he's 479 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: a flasher who has these long lolls and production. If 480 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: I'm Doug Peterson, I kind of want things that I 481 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: can rely on into me. Hutchinson is the safe pick. 482 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: And I hate to say that because they put a 483 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: label on someone that he doesn't have a hot ceiling. 484 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: But I kind of trust that Aidan Hudson is gonna 485 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: be what we've seen, maybe more so than some of 486 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: the other guys. All Right, we've figured it out. Um, 487 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: there you have it. Our social media questions are in. 488 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for all the submissions this week. Bucky. What's 489 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: the rest of the week hold for you? Any more 490 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks you're looking at beside c J. Stroud Apparently, Well, 491 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: today is a big day because you talked about c J. Straw, 492 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: But the rest of the legion of scouts didn't be 493 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: down at the sick hanging out there with Lane Kiffin 494 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: trying to check got old mac correl to see where 495 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: he where he falls because remember we haven't seen him 496 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: since the bowl game. He goes out on the sideline 497 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: with the ankle and we didn't get a chance to 498 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: see him return. So we haven't seen him throw. This 499 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: is our first chance being able to reacquaint ourselves with 500 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: him in this town. So this is a big day 501 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: to day down in Sip. Not a bad place to be. Oxford, Mississippi. 502 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: Some good lunch, that's what they tell me. Does what 503 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 1: they tell me down there. They tell me I need 504 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: to make a trip down to to Oxford and just 505 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: kind of hang out, you know, just get a little 506 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: hottie tidy and just kind of see what's going on. 507 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: You know, you're you're learning. So, Yes, it's a fantastic place. 508 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 1: It's you know, Oxford literary literally literary town. They've got 509 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: all the libraries, all these things. It's very nice there. Yes, 510 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: bookstore yeah, big time Yeah, big time baseball too. I've 511 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: seen some of those games. They throw all the drinks 512 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: in the air and the whole thing, so it's like 513 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: a party. Uh we missed out. Speed limits eighteen miles 514 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: per hour on campus. It's Archie's number. Yeah, that's right, 515 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: I've seen that about that true story. I thought I 516 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: thought they wanted to go slow enough so you can 517 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: look around and take taking all the sites that might 518 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: have something to do with it. There are a few. Bucky, 519 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: have a great week. On that note, that's Bucky Brooks, 520 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: John Oser for Joe for Tonado. I'm J P. Shadrick. 521 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: We'll catch you next time on a Huddle Up podcast