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Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Tuesday, April eighth, twenties twenty five. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Pie. We're still recovering from

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Speaker 1: our weekend at Big Deans. It's me and your man,

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Speaker 1: NAMG Marcus Grant, joined by Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones. Yeah, fellas,

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Speaker 1: we actually got to like see each other in the wild.

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Speaker 2: This yeah sort of pretty weird. Yeah, yeah, who are you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 1: I know for you guys listening, you know, and look,

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Speaker 1: I know there are people out there who listen to

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Speaker 1: the show, and you guys do pods and you have

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Speaker 1: your podcast partners that you probably don't live near. But

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Speaker 1: for a lot of you, like we do this show

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Speaker 1: and we don't actually see each other in person very often.

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Speaker 2: We're recording all this from home.

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Speaker 1: Uh. You know, Lakwan you you you brought your kids

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Speaker 1: out to my my son's birthday party, Yah, about a

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Speaker 1: week and a half ago, which thanks.

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Speaker 3: A lot taller? Did you get taller?

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Speaker 1: That was It was funny because like, you know, like

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Speaker 1: the party was like a week and a half ago,

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Speaker 1: and I realized when I got there, like that was

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Speaker 1: the first time I've seen you in person since before Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Yes, like a whole different calendar year.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, wow, I haven't seen you.

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Speaker 1: In person in real life since twenty twenty four, Floria.

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Speaker 1: We saw each other over the weekend. We broke beers

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Speaker 1: and have burgers with our pal, Mike Fayela.

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Speaker 2: Uh and I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It was somebody seen you in real life and maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe a month so I'm like, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: Do we see each other in March for free agency

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Speaker 3: or anything?

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Speaker 2: Not even sure? Yeah, I mean it might.

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Speaker 4: It might be January, which is so crazy. We need

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Speaker 4: to change that. It can't happen again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we should.

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Speaker 1: We should probably you know, see each other I r

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Speaker 2: That far from one another.

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Speaker 4: But you know, hey, listeners, we we are all actually

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Speaker 4: friends off of the show too.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Yes, that's why all this kind of works. People

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Speaker 3: ask me that a lot. I don't know if you

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Speaker 4: They're like, do you guys actually hang out when you're

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Speaker 4: not talking fake football?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, I mean we tried to, but

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Speaker 1: obviously I just I gave away the game right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that often? So yeah, but we did get together

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Speaker 1: and it was fun. It was a good time for sure.

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Speaker 1: We do have a lot to talk about because we

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Speaker 1: are still doing our draft preview. Positionally, this week we

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Speaker 1: do not make running backs into two shows. We decided

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Speaker 1: to make wide receivers into two shows. So today and

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Speaker 1: Thursday we will be talking about running backs.

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Speaker 2: Fun guest.

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Speaker 1: On Thursday, we'll be talking with JJ Zacharieson kind of

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Speaker 1: getting some of his takes on this running back class. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll do some at a time that is convenient for

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Speaker 1: when we talk to him, so that'll be fun. And

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Speaker 1: then next week, teasing ahead, we will do wide receivers

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday and Thursday, and we are slated we have

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Speaker 1: next Tuesday to talk to Matt Harmon, he of Reception Perception,

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Speaker 1: former alum of this very podcast, now doing his thing.

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Speaker 2: Over at Yahoo as well, so we'll get his thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Look, it comes to talking wide receivers, I can't think

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Speaker 1: of anybody else that I want to talk to about it,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna get Harmon on next week to.

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Speaker 2: Talk about that at all.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of wide receivers as well, I got a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of news here for y'all tomorrow, we are releasing

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Speaker 1: a special standalone episode of this show where we had

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Speaker 1: a chance to talk to Adam Feelin and you may

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Speaker 1: have seen the clip floating around on x Twitter of

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Speaker 1: us shotty with Adam Feeling. We had a great conversation.

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Speaker 1: We talked to him for about twenty minutes about everything

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Speaker 1: from the Panthers and the expectations for Bryce Young. We

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Speaker 1: got his thoughts on Severance as well, So I guess

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Speaker 1: that's an early spoiler alert if you have not faced,

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Speaker 1: if you have not finished season two of Severance, just

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Speaker 1: a spoiler alert. We talked to Adam Feeling about it

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Speaker 1: at the end of the interview, but a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: We're really glad to get him on the show to

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Speaker 1: talk to him and get his thoughts there. But let's

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Speaker 1: The first one in New York with the New York Jetropolitans.

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Speaker 1: There is talk from head coach Aaron Glenn if they

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Speaker 1: want a three headed running back attack for the Jets

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Speaker 1: offense and Florio. I can't think of another phrase in

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Speaker 1: the fantasy lexicon that makes your stomach turn more than a.

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Speaker 2: Three headed backfield.

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Speaker 1: We have reached the point I think that we can

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Speaker 1: each guy. If it's a three headed backfield. For the Jets,

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Speaker 1: if they're really doing this, I mean, I guess we're

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Speaker 1: still drafting Breese Hall. But how far down does he fall?

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Speaker 3: I think he falls.

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Speaker 4: Like Look, when we did our mocks each month, he

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Speaker 4: keep being like, I don't get it, Like I don't

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Speaker 4: see him still has a first round pick. I think

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Speaker 4: second round or even third round. Now with this new

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Speaker 4: that is being added there.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 4: This all comes from one reporter who sat down with

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Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn. Look, I'm not saying they're lying or anything,

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Speaker 4: but it's early April, I think.

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Speaker 3: That, and when this interview happened was probably March. Like,

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Speaker 3: I think that.

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Speaker 4: Is important to remember in the grand scheme of things.

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Speaker 4: It's easy today to say we want three running backs involved,

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Speaker 4: but if they're still saying this late August, after training.

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Speaker 3: Camp and everything.

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Speaker 4: My tune would be very different, But for right now,

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Speaker 4: I do feel like bris Hall should not be a

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Speaker 4: first round pick. He should slide a little bit. And

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Speaker 4: the other thing with this report is it was written

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Speaker 4: by Rich Simonini from ESPN, and he has a line

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Speaker 4: in there that's like, wonder if the Jets would trade

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Speaker 4: bres Hall and draft ash and gents, And.

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Speaker 3: The Internet was like, that's what the Jets are.

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Speaker 4: Doing and like they ran wild with it, and it's like, no,

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Speaker 4: he was just speculating. So I think that rumors what

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Speaker 4: caught fire, and it shouldn't be It should be the

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Speaker 4: fact that they're talking about wanting to use three running

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Speaker 3: Three is a lot harder though, like you said, Marcus,

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Speaker 1: Well one, yes, they used two very effectively in Detroit,

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Speaker 1: but also look at who those two were, right, it

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Speaker 1: was David Montgomery, who while Montgomery has never been flashy,

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Speaker 1: Jamior Gibbs, who is a big play threat, kind of

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Speaker 2: So like those were the two. So then I guess

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Speaker 2: that begs the question.

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Speaker 1: Lakwan, all right, we're drafting Breeze Hall, right, we're expecting

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Speaker 1: him to be the front line there after that. Is

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Speaker 1: it Braylan Allen or is Isaiah Davis you're putting your

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 3: First of all, when has a three headed backfield actually

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Speaker 5: Might work for us, Like oh yeah yeah, Like I

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Speaker 5: all the fantasy community just in chaos at this point,

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Speaker 3: If there had to be a chip to place, I

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Speaker 3: guess Braylan Allen. But for me, I'm fading all around.

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, Breese Hall, Chris a Lobby, they're in

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Speaker 3: the Satral discontent. There's going to be a rookie this

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be them in the bag that's coming.

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Speaker 3: But Anyway, I definitely feel as though, like, when do

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Speaker 3: you look at this backfield? All you want is breaste

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Speaker 3: Hall to be unleashed, Like his efficiency has dropped down

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Speaker 3: since his rookie year. We want rookie year. What we

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Speaker 3: that's the full out the gate Bristall running back one.

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Speaker 3: This is his backfield. We're getting robbed from that already

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Speaker 3: in April, and I just feel like, no, what you've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, you mentioned Florio, the rumor about

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Speaker 1: what they trade breeze, Haulling draft, Ashton Junty. You guys

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Speaker 1: is that when you wake up sometimes in the morning,

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Speaker 2: Mill is already churning.

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Speaker 1: The East Coast dads have been up for a while

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Speaker 1: bit later, you're you're stuck playing catchup. And that was

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Speaker 1: me one day just like, wait, what wait, the Jets

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Speaker 2: And it took me a.

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Speaker 1: While to sort of catch up to what exactly started

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Speaker 2: Something out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all.

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Speaker 1: It was not all that, not that there was any

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Speaker 2: It or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was utterly confused. I will tell you that the

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Speaker 1: whole time. The other thing though, that worries me about

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Speaker 1: this whole thing, even if it is just a two

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Speaker 1: headed attack, right, let's just say it ends up being

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Speaker 1: Breeze Hall and Braylan Allen. Justin Fields is now the

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback for the New York Jets, And I don't

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Speaker 1: know that this offense, especially now with a defensive minded

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Speaker 1: head coach, which side notes of that is the thing

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Speaker 1: we did talk to Adam Feelin about. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that with a defensive minded head coach and Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: at quarterback, that a two headed running back attack is

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Speaker 1: going to be enough to sustain us for fantasy. I

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Speaker 1: you know, we like Fields Florido because he runs with

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Speaker 2: That is what we want.

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Speaker 1: But does this offense project to be high volume enough

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Speaker 1: that we can think that Fields can do what Fields

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't look at him different, but they are one

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Speaker 1: It feels floyal like we are sort of with McCaffrey now,

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Speaker 4: I go back and forth because it's not just the

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Speaker 4: But like, I don't care who it is, they are

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Speaker 4: We have seen ten years of this going all the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, we had an Alfred Morristrup. Did you just

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Speaker 3: Oh, Carlos Hide. I mean that season was amazing.

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Speaker 1: Loose Hide man, Alguappo Man, that was. That was a

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Speaker 3: Moster Jeff Wilson, Elijah Mitchell. I'm trying to think the

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Speaker 1: No, you can't, although you also think you can fight

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Speaker 3: Man, all right, we're not going to get into that again,

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Speaker 3: No, you can't. You can't rush for sixty and you

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Speaker 2: Can I get a forty?

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Speaker 3: Run a forty four?

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Speaker 3: Four five four five four six for six four to seven.

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Speaker 1: Were Credio segment on this show called The Kwan Jones's

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Speaker 1: Tales of Awesomeness, where you just sit here and you

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Speaker 3: Four to six is legit good for NFL people.

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Speaker 1: Broke these things down into four different tiers as though,

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Speaker 1: as we have been throughout this conversation. So, uh, Tier one,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Laquantitt feels like you're going to have to

443
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 1: spend a first round pick on him. Yeah, yeah, I

444
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 1: mean so I like, so you sigde, which I was

445
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 1: gonna ask, like, are you are you cool with it?

446
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I know that's where we are with

447
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 1: top level running back prospects, Like we find a guy

448
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: we like, that's just what it's going to have to be.

449
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 2: But are you willing to pay that price?

450
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 3: Yes? And I say that because he'll be going at

451
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 3: the back end of the first round, So Gibbs, Jon

452
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 3: and Barkley will be going in that first round. So

453
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 3: if you want somebody that can be in that conversation,

454
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to spend that late first round on genty.

455
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to get him to be that solid

456
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 3: RB one that you're looking for. If you're looking for

457
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 3: guys that are in that conversation now landing spot. It

458
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 3: may even shoot to the moon if he goes forward

459
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 3: to the Patriots, because they're gonna run the ball. They're

460
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 3: gonna run him to the ground. And I really feel

461
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 3: as though he'll have, you know, that ceiling that is

462
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 3: going to be like, Oh, I don't care, I'll pay

463
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 3: anything for it because he's definitely going to be in

464
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 3: that conversation of a top twenty, top fifteen type of

465
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 3: fantasy player next year. So being that he's so skilled

466
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 3: and he's so talented, he could definitely change a fantasy

467
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,160
Speaker 3: roster and make them a sin. So honestly, yeah, I'm

468
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 3: okay with spending that you know, first round draft pick.

469
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 3: If I do happen to go running back. You know

470
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 3: me personally, I'm in like thirty something leagues, so I'm

471
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 3: probably gonna be doing so many different builds. But he's

472
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 3: definitely gonna be on a lot of my teams if

473
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 3: I got him at that back end of the first round.

474
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm all right, So I'm just gonna I'm gonna put

475
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: it to you right, let's say you're let's say you're

476
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: at nine, right, Ashton Gent or AJ.

477
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 3: Brown give me genty. I honestly think, you know, with

478
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 3: the tush push, everybody's kind of going to be pushing

479
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: AJ Brown back up before nine because if they do

480
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 3: band it, and obviously they're gonna have to go back

481
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 3: to throwing the ball and then that can lead to

482
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 3: more you know, opportunities for AJ Brown. But I definitely

483
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 3: feel as though Gent will clear you know, AJ Brown's

484
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 3: finishing fantasy points.

485
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: Uh, same question than you, Floya A. J. Brown or

486
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: Gentz at the back half of the first round.

487
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 4: I could see myself going gent just because I I

488
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 4: think I feel good about the wide receiver that I

489
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 4: could get, but the landing spot does matter. They're a

490
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 4: little bit because if he went to somewhere not as great,

491
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 4: I'm a sucker for a J. Brown And I think

492
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 4: last year, uh, it was kind of a down year.

493
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 4: But I think he'll be fine and get back to

494
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 4: what he normally is. He won't be hurt or anything

495
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 4: like that, hopefully, But yeah, like if he ends up,

496
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 4: there's certain teams that he could go to, like the Bears.

497
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 4: I know people have linked him to, like the Denver

498
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 4: Broncos situation like that where he's gonna get three. I

499
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 4: think if he goes to Denver, Sean Payton learns Sean

500
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 4: Payton knew when he had good running backs in the past, right,

501
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 4: like like mark Ingram Alvin Kamara.

502
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 3: I think there's no way you take gent in the

503
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 3: first round and you don't give him three hundred touches.

504
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 1: And you mean you would hope not. But again, yeah,

505
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: I feel like with Sean Payton, all bets are sort

506
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: of off.

507
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 3: I will quit fantasy that year. I will be done

508
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 3: playing the game of fantasy. He goes to Denver, never

509
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 3: ever playing again.

510
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: That yeah that you know, I'm very curious sort of

511
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: how this goes. I mean, you know, I very much

512
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: expect that he's gonna be a guy you're gonna have

513
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: to spin it up on and again. If the landing

514
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: price is right or landing place is right, then that number.

515
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: Shot all right, lakwi. Could we see a scenario.

516
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: Is there a spot he could go where suddenly we're

517
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: talking about him in the top half of the first

518
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: round or is that is that too much?

519
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: Hmmm? I mean, honestly, what would be like he would

520
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 3: have to go in the first five picks for that

521
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: to happen. I mean, Jacksonville's at at five, you got

522
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 3: New England at four. Like I kind of feel like

523
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 3: I will pay that price at four if he goes

524
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: to the Patriots. But if we're talking Cleveland, then it's like,

525
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: all right, well, they have one agenda. They're gonna need

526
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 3: one of their best players to run the rock. They're

527
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 3: probably gonna give him three hundred touches in his first year.

528
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 3: And if you're gonna have that on the table for me,

529
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 3: then yeah, I'll take him around where Jon or Gifts

530
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: are going put him on the Bears. I'm taking him

531
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: top five.

532
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 2: Wow, really yikes?

533
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 3: I with Ben Johnson. I think Caleb and those guys like.

534
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 4: Maybe well first first half of the first round is

535
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 4: top six, so yeah, like the names I wrote down

536
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 4: for like Proswell watching him where like Marshall Lynch and

537
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 4: MJD and stuff like that, like elite options guys who

538
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 4: have that home run hitting ability and that freak physical you.

539
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: Can't tackle him mobility. Like I believe Jens is that talented.

540
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: I think he is too, you know, I guess, I

541
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: guess sight unseen, not knowing where he's going to get drafted,

542
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm still back half of the first round.

543
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: Is this a ceiling of talent? Though?

544
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 4: Like?

545
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:34,479
Speaker 2: Is that?

546
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: Is this it? Like not saying it's bad, but like,

547
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 3: do you see him getting even better at the next

548
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 3: level in the NFL.

549
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: I think he can. I think there's still room to grow.

550
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: I think there's still room for him to improve a

551
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, as Flerio mentioned, they didn't use

552
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: him a lot as a pass catcher at Boise. If

553
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: that's a thing that gets added to his repertoire in

554
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: the NFL, then there's absolutely room for him to be

555
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: even more productive, right, I mean, we know what he

556
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: can do as a runner. If we learn that he

557
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: can be a bit more of a pass catcher, then yeah,

558
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: there's absolutely room for it to happen.

559
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 4: Do you guys have any concerns with his style of play?

560
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 4: That's the one thing the negative I've seen is like

561
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 4: he is so physical that like it's going to take

562
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 4: a toll.

563
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess so, but not enough.

564
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 3: That's like a five year down the road problem.

565
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not the that's not the deciding factor on

566
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: if I'm taking him and where I'm taking.

567
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: Him, Dynasty Cell after year three, if that's what we're talking.

568
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 2: You know.

569
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: In rookie drafts, right, like no questions as Yeah, that's

570
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: settled case law.

571
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you're taking anybody else you're just trying to

572
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: be cool.

573
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 1: Even looks like you're taking cam Ward probably now you're

574
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: probably still taking gent Yeah. I think that's that's kind

575
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: of just a done deal at this point. Yeah, I mean,

576
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: look it to the point if somebody's taking him that high,

577
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: we're talking about him going in the top six seven

578
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: picks of the NFL draft. Whoever gets him is going

579
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: to load him up with touches and so yeah, yeah,

580
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: there are injury concerns, I guess, but there are with

581
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: literally every single player in the league. It's the potential

582
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: for volume that we love, and that's that's what it

583
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: would be.

584
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: If he ends up in Dallas, he will be a

585
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: top five pick. Uh yeah, just because of the star

586
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 3: on the helmet.

587
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 4: I think I don't like the O line at all,

588
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 4: but he'll get three hundred touchdowns.

589
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,239
Speaker 3: Talking to Isaiah Stanback with their offseason moves with you know,

590
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 3: they bringing in coaches O line coach one of the

591
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,239
Speaker 3: best old lines is leaving my freaking mind right now.

592
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: The name, but he's one of the best O line

593
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: coaches in college. So they're going to be building the trenches.

594
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: And what he's telling me, Isaiah Standbeck, he's saying that

595
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 3: they're going to run the rock. So Florio if he

596
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 3: ends up there at twelve and Jenti is there, Yeah,

597
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 3: that might be in the conversations of like, all right,

598
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 3: he might go in front of Gibbs, he might go

599
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 3: in front of Bijon like that. That's how I would

600
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 3: approach that if he ends up on the Dallas Cowboys,

601
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: you would take him over those guys. Yeah, I mean

602
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: Gibbs already has that little question mark because like, all right,

603
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson's gone, like is this one two? You know,

604
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 3: Like I would feel a lot better with them addressing

605
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: the old line, them bringing in guys, them bringing in

606
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: coaches that can perfect this old line and build the

607
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: trenches and shot. He already said it. He wants to

608
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: run the rock. So Jent goes there. You might have

609
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 3: to put him ahead of a Gibbs and a Bijon

610
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: I had.

611
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: Of a Gibbs and a I don't know if I'm

612
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: doing that.

613
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 3: You have to. You have to because if that's what

614
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 3: they're going.

615
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 2: To do, a thing I.

616
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: Do not, that's.

617
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: That's to me.

618
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 4: Feels like, yeah, he feels the safest, but I would

619
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 4: question it.

620
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh my god, Yeah, I might pull

621
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: the trigger on this ahead a beach. It's gonna be

622
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 3: a summer engineer.

623
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: Like I don't I'm not ready to do that.

624
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm not here and I don't care.

625
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to do that.

626
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: Money don't make money.

627
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: That's fine. You never go broke taking a prophet either,

628
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: that's the whole thing.

629
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, this is gonna be worth arguing about for

630
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: another couple of months for sure. Over it's here two though, right,

631
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: guys that are moving up draft boards, Guys that are

632
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: getting a lot of high five guys in this group,

633
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: not the Burger place, Omaron Hampton. I guess you have

634
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: to have an NFL contract to consistently eat at five guys.

635
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: So there's that part.

636
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: Amarion Hampton, Trevion Henderson, Caleb Johnson, Cam Scattaboo, Quinn, Shawn Jenkins.

637
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: Lookwan Hampton is the one that I think is probably

638
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: getting the most hype out of that group. I've even

639
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: heard that, you know, he might be moving up in

640
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: the first round potentially.

641
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: Wow.

642
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so he said wow. I mean, so

643
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: then let's say, let's let's sug redraft here. Where are

644
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: you comfortable drafting a guy like like Hampton at this point?

645
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: So he would have to land in a spot where

646
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: he's getting fed because he's a workhorse. I mean that's

647
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: what he in college his last two seasons there, he

648
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: kind of just got fed the rock. So you're hoping

649
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 3: that the team understands that and stays own task to

650
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: feed this monster, because honestly, he could honestly live in

651
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: like that late second third round because like people will

652
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: be a little hesitant after the ashing Jent going off

653
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: in the first round. So if he's living on that

654
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: back and in the second, you know, the third round,

655
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: you're like, hey, I need an RB two. Why not

656
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: get a guy that's being fed. But again, landing spy

657
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: will matter. So it's like if he's moving up in

658
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 3: the first round and I'm looking at some of these teams,

659
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 3: like where could he go, Like where could he live

660
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: in that? You know, in that back in I would

661
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: say after the twelve picks, So it's like he would

662
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: have to be in a situation where he's getting fed.

663
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: He's getting fed, he's getting fed, because that's exactly what

664
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: he can do. He can handle that workload.

665
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: Looking at the most recent mock draft we did, which

666
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: was just after free agency, he was the last pick

667
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: in the third round.

668
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: He went at three.

669
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 3: Twelve shit, and I'm comfortable.

670
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: With that went ahead.

671
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the running backs, he went ahead up

672
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker actually went ahead it so he went out

673
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: of Joe Mixon, Traves Et and Kenneth Walker. Those are

674
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: the next three running backs to go after.

675
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: That feels right to me. That feels perfect right there,

676
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: and that's without even knowing where he's landing. So like,

677
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: I feel a way because I'm a huge Joe Mixon fan,

678
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: So there's like there, you know, I might go back

679
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: with Joe Mix. But Martin Hampton he's something special, man,

680
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: Like he can catch the ball out of backfield, he

681
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: could bulldoze you, and he can make you break your ankles.

682
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: So it's one of those things of like you want

683
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: this prototype of a perfectly balanced running back, and that's

684
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: exactly who he is.

685
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: Does he, though, Florio, land in a spot right, even

686
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: if he's later in the first round, right, does he

687
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: land in a spot where he walks into a huge

688
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: number of touches. It just seems like even as much

689
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: as team seemed to love him, he's going to go

690
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: to a spot where he's probably gonna have somebody that

691
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: he's sharing touches with.

692
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 4: It all depends if I feel like, if if you're

693
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 4: a team taking him in the first round, you clearly

694
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 4: have a need at running back. If he was the

695
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 4: fault to say like day two, then that becomes a

696
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: lot more concerning because then teams are a lot more like, hey,

697
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 4: it's not a round one pick and everything, and we've

698
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: seen a lot of team like that's what happens to

699
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,719
Speaker 4: like Javonte Williams in year one and John I mean

700
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 4: even johnthan.

701
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: Taylor Field around two, which was wild.

702
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 4: But like, if you're taking this kid in round one,

703
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 4: especially if some box have him going like in the

704
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 4: first half of round one, I feel like that if

705
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: you're using that high of a pick, you're not taking

706
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: a luxury pick there, right, unless it's the Detroit Lions

707
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 4: who love to take luxury picks. But for the most part,

708
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 4: at that point, you're drafting for need still. So if

709
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 4: he goes there, I feel like he would get a

710
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 4: fall to a spot that has a lot of touches.

711
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 3: And while I.

712
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 4: Do think he is the second best running back at

713
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 4: handling that amount of volume and stuff, I think there's.

714
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: A running back that I like more than him.

715
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: WHOA oh all right, oh just put it out there.

716
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 4: Who he's all you traveon Henderson because to me, the

717
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 4: biggest and I'm a huge believer of this and it

718
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: constantly goes through my analysis, but to me, I think

719
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: the biggest difference between good and great players is speed

720
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 4: and burst and electricity, and it's why the Dolphins offense

721
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 4: was so hard to stop for a while and stuff.

722
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: And I think it's the forty nine ers play fast

723
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: like smart team the Chiefs, Like what is the chiefs

724
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 4: number one priority at all skill positions?

725
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: Speed?

726
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: Like?

727
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 4: I think that is a difference maker in the NFL

728
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 4: because Hampton is the kind of running back that can

729
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 4: get chunk plays. He could get you those fifteen those

730
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: twenty yard runs, twenty five yard runs. Henderson is the

731
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 4: type of running back that turns those into sixty seventy

732
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 4: eighty yard touchdowns. And to me, you could do a

733
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: lot more with less touches than and especially for fantasy,

734
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 4: when you start putting up big plays like that, that's

735
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 4: when you be like. That's why I don't think Devon

736
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 4: hen is a top five running back in the prototypical sense,

737
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 4: but for fantasy he is amazing because of all those

738
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 4: big plays.

739
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: And I think Henderson has that in his bag more

740
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: than Hampton does.

741
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: I would say, for me the biggest difference between Hampton

742
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: and Henderson. Henderson is more of a make you miss

743
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: sort of guy. Right, I think I think Hampton is

744
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna be kind of a guy that tries to run

745
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: through you.

746
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: He's more of a physical sort of back.

747
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's you know, he's got the

748
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: sort of lateral ability, uh that you see out of

749
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 1: Trevion Henderson.

750
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: I think both of them are very good.

751
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: Just that's I think that's just kind of the difference

752
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: in their games, and so I think that's also what

753
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: offense they work in too.

754
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 3: Also, Henderson's amazing in the passion game. He can run routes.

755
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: He could really go out there and cut it up

756
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: and get open and create these mismatches for these linebackers.

757
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 3: So he's going to be a nightmare. I mean, defensive

758
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 3: coordinators are going to be pissed off. They got a

759
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: face him every Sunday. But it's one of those things

760
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: that I hope he lands in the spot that understands like,

761
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 3: all right, you're gonna be here to be the Gibbs

762
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: of some type. That's why I want him to go

763
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: to Chicago so he can get that one two punch

764
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: to serve with DeAndre Swift, because Swift has just been ugh.

765
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 3: His efficiency has just been down as well. I mean

766
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: it was under four yards this past season. So he

767
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: obviously needs help. That offensive line is getting built through

768
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: the trenches. If you pull him back like a slingshot,

769
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 3: Henderson's going to the house because, like you guys were saying,

770
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: he can make you miss at any time. Like, this

771
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: guy's tap dancing at the at the line of scrimmage

772
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 3: and you're like get him, get him, and they can't

773
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 3: because he's so fast and he's just clearing so many yards.

774
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: Though it's like one of those things you hope he

775
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: lands to a place that understands the assignment and what

776
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,479
Speaker 3: he's able to do to bring to that team.

777
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: That tap dancing in the line of scrimmage is a

778
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: double edged sword.

779
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: Though, right, because in college you make guys look foolish.

780
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: In the NFL, those suddenly become three yard games.

781
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: Ah, you know what, since we're on the subject of

782
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 3: these Tier two I'm gonna break the rundown real quick,

783
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 3: Caleb Johnson, he is entering the bag of Saxul discontent. Yes, yes,

784
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: we're good, We're good. I was talking to Florio about

785
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: this over the weekend, and like I have this thing

786
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: about watching his tape, Like if I'm going to put

787
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: my kids to sleep, where I need to go to

788
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: bed I'm just put on his highlight tape. I am

789
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: completely bored. Like he is a spoiled back. That Iowa

790
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 3: line was one of the best last season in college

791
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: in the nation, and he is able to run through

792
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: these whole Marcus, you could put up one hundred and

793
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: fifty yards behind that old line. He is fast.

794
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: Great, Yes, you can alo awesomeness, that's not what we're doing.

795
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: I just feel though, like I will take this stand

796
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: ten toes down on this take because I feel like

797
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: he's going to break a lot of hearts this season.

798
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: He's going to have to be one to a team

799
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 3: that's going to have the old line ready for him

800
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: to go two. He's going to have to go to

801
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: a team that pacific in outside scheme, like he's gonna

802
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 3: have to go to like a forty nine ers team.

803
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to have an offense that understand his strengths.

804
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 3: He's not a guy that's gonna be out there breaking

805
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 3: a bunch of tackles. Even though PFF hasn't breakn a

806
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: much bunch of mistackles. It's because he's running so fast

807
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: and he just kind of bounces off people and he

808
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: falls to the ground. I don't look at that as

809
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: something as one of these top tier running backs. I'm done.

810
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: I'll stand on it. It is what it is.

811
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: I will say though, because Iowa actually had an offense

812
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: last year. You know that the previous two or three

813
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: years it has been just kind of a punchline because

814
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: they could not score points. Last year, they actually scored points,

815
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: and Caleb Johnson was a big part of that.

816
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I mean, maybe there's something there, right.

817
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: I'm not a U.

818
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 4: I don't think I dislike him as much as Lakwan,

819
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 4: but I'm not a big fan.

820
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: Of my hate run. Yeah, I'll tell you if you

821
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: want to take I'll give you one.

822
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 4: Though, I think Cam Skataboo is going to be the

823
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: second best fantasy.

824
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: Running I was waiting.

825
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: I was waiting for us to get to him because

826
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: I yes, he's.

827
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 4: Second fantasy outside of Gen T. I think he's gonna

828
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: have the best fantasy career.

829
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: He's my favorite.

830
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: You know non Ashton gent division is camp Skataboo.

831
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: People hate him for no reason. The fantasy streets do

832
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 3: not like him. I don't know why they're wrong.

833
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 4: He's straight enough to have the longest career of any

834
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 4: of these running backs.

835
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 3: I feel very confident in that.

836
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: You know, like he really only had kind of really

837
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: one year of major production, right, and he played a

838
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: couple of years at Arizona State. His first year in Tempe,

839
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: he was okay. There was nothing really stand out about him.

840
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to say he looked good because

841
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: he gave USC fits, but our defense has been trash,

842
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: so that doesn't really mean much of anything. But then

843
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: last year was the year that everybody started talking about

844
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: camp skataboo, right. Seventeen hundred rushing yards, six hundred receiving yards,

845
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: a total of twenty four touchdowns from scrimmage.

846
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: It was that one year.

847
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: And I know that for a lot of folks who

848
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: do this and who are scouting draft prospects, there's a

849
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: little bit of suspicion when a guy shows up that

850
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: late in his career and suddenly has one big season.

851
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: I think that has a lot to do with people's

852
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: hesitance for cam Scatabuy.

853
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: I hate that because we have cam Ward going at

854
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: one right now like that that that's the same thing

855
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: like he blew up in his last year in Miami.

856
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: It's for like, I'm just looking at it like that

857
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 3: is whatever you know. Like Cam Skataboo to me when

858
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: you turn on his dape, he is not that breakaway

859
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 3: speed guy like people will falling for not running the forty.

860
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: He may be injured, but he is athletic. He's jumping over,

861
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: he's making you miss, he's moving left, he's shifty, and like,

862
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: these are all qualities that we champion all these other

863
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: running backs. So it's like he's bringing to the table

864
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: receiving skills as well. Oh yeah, sign me up. I'm

865
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: on that take with Floria about him possibly being, you know,

866
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: one of the best fantasy seasons this year.

867
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: I what I love about Cam Scataboo is his willingness

868
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: to go out and improve his game to get him

869
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: to where he is now. You know, they told the

870
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: story about when he first got to Arizona State, and

871
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, he was okay and he was willing to

872
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: do a lot of things, but the coaches pulled him

873
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: aside and said, look, you're not You're not NFL good

874
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 1: and told him the things he had to go work

875
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: on to become NFL good.

876
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: Right.

877
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: A lot of it was sort of improving strength, working

878
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: on his route running, getting better hands and that sort

879
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: of thing. Now he's not He's not going to be

880
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 1: a breakaway speed guy, right, He's just not that guy.

881
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean when I first talked about him, I think

882
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: I mentioned Austin Eckler as a potential comparison sort of

883
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: for Scataboo. You know, I'm looking here at Lanzer lines

884
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: comp form calling him Jalen Warren. So I think that's

885
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: sort of what we are looking at for a Scataboo.

886
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: But I do think he's going to be that guy

887
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: that people are going to look at, and certainly in

888
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: Dynasty drafts. I think, you know, I'm not gonna say

889
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: he fall, but he's gonna he's gonna end up in

890
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: somebody's lap, and I think they're gonna get a really

891
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: good fantasy running back out of there.

892
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

893
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 4: I counted into as a runner Karen Williams, but he's

894
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: Kien Williams. He is the most dynamic running back in

895
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 4: this class. And that's I got to asked yesterday what

896
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 4: running back room would he fit in, and I was like,

897
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 4: there's thirty two that come to mind, because it's so

898
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 4: dynamic and you could use him in so many different ways.

899
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 4: And look ash and genty shattered the PFF miss tackles

900
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 4: force record last year, but Cam Scatterboo tied what the

901
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 4: previous record was. Like, I feel like that. It's no

902
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 4: love because Genty was so good at what he did.

903
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 4: But like he could be a three down back if

904
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 4: you want him to. He could be a third down

905
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 4: specialist if you want him to. There's a lot of

906
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: which is why I think I'll have a very long

907
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 4: career because pass catching backs like this are rare and

908
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 4: you could use him, Like he can legit run downfield routes.

909
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 4: Not many running backs can do that.

910
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing that's heep in mind.

911
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: Were talking about pass catching backs, right there are the

912
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: guys who they just sort of stay and hover near

913
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and they are basically an option

914
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: when everything breaks down and the quarterback has to get

915
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: rid of the football. And then they're the guys who

916
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: can actually run routes and they are considered as part

917
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: of the passing game, right.

918
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I was.

919
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: Joking how with Ron Rivera, every running back who catches

920
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: the football, he would say, is a Christian McCaffrey type. Well, no,

921
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: because McCaffrey, you can actually run legitimate routes for you

922
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: can scheme up things in the passing game, Jamiir Gibbs.

923
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: You know you can scheme up things in the passing

924
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: game versus you know, like say Najee Harris in his

925
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: first year, who's basically the emergency He used the break

926
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: glass in case of emergency for when Ben Roethlisberger found

927
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: himself in troubled.

928
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 4: The dumpoff, I always write, are you a pass catching

929
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 4: like running back or a running back who can catch

930
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 4: the ball if he gets thrown.

931
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: No, that's good, great scataboo.

932
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: By the way, in our last mock draft, was the

933
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 1: second player off the board in the round. He went

934
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: three picks ahead of Brian Robinson. So hey, he might

935
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: end up in Washington. So they just move on from

936
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: But I think they're still sort of committed to Austin Eckler.

937
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's my boy too. I'll never I'll never

938
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: quit because he's one of.

939
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: Us, one of us, one of us for.

940
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: Sure, anybody else in this second tier. But we kind

941
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: of I think we kind of hit everybody quinch on Judkins.

942
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: Uh any feeling strongly one way or another about Judkins

943
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: in this traffic one.

944
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: He's like more of a like he's explosive, but he's

945
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 3: more of a power runner, Like he's looking for that

946
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: contact and I love that in some running backs, but

947
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure if he will prevail, like behind

948
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 3: a whod line that's still needs work because he's going

949
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: to be running into their backs. You know, that's gonna

950
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: be one of the issues. Like I think Henderson was

951
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 3: more better at bouncing outside and avoiding a lot of

952
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 3: those contact things. But quinch On, he's strong, He's a

953
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: power back, so I think, you know, if he has

954
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 3: like the smaller side at that second level of the linebackers,

955
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: he'll probably go through them and break away. But it's

956
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: more of those things like his his vision needs a

957
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 3: little bit more work.

958
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm very curious sort of how how

959
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: those two shake out, right, because we've seen plenty of

960
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: times where you have two backs coming out of the

961
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: same school and it feels like either what usually what

962
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: happens is either one goes on and does great things

963
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: and everyone ends up being sort of meh, or they're

964
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: both sort of mah.

965
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: At the next level, I don't you know.

966
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like a backfield where like

967
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: both guys went on.

968
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: And Georgia, Sony Michelle, Nick Chubb, and Todd Gurley.

969
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, except the Sony Michelle thing was very short lived.

970
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: I mean a CLS took all of them and of

971
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 3: them came out with likees like that.

972
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: Was yeah, and Nick being the lasting, the longestt out

973
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: of all of them.

974
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 3: You know, so he got the worst over anyone, and

975
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: I know he agrees.

976
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think in terms of pure talent, yes,

977
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: Gurley was that dude.

978
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: Just the god issues. The issues just sort of mobbed him.

979
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: We said it too much. We stood on this a

980
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: little long, and I'm starting to feel.

981
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: Sat highlights after this, I'm gonna go great, we'll come back.

982
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: We'll go through tears three and four.

983
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: Then we'll wrap things up here on the NFL Fantasy

984
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: Football Podcast, diving into tears three and four as we

985
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: talk about running backs getting ready for the NFL Draft

986
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: coming up.

987
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: Uh.

988
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: Tier three guys that you think could make a year

989
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: one impact. Handful of names here, R J. Harvey, Dylan Sampson,

990
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: Devin Neil, Damien Martinez, Trevor et In, DJ Giddens, Jordan James,

991
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: and Bashell Tuton, who I think has the most fun

992
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: name to say this entire group.

993
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: Rock Root and all that.

994
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: Floria, any of these names that immediately sort of stand

995
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: out to you as guys that you know maybe are

996
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: worth an end of draft dart throw.

997
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 4: Look, there's a lot of talent in these names that

998
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 4: we're getting to the point though we're landing. Spot is

999
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 4: going to determine.

1000
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 3: A whole lot. But I like the Jays.

1001
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: I like RJ. Harvey the most of this group. I

1002
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 4: think he's got a little Bucky.

1003
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: Irving in his game.

1004
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 4: I also was like Austin Eckler like because he is a.

1005
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: Phenomenal pass catcher out of the backfield.

1006
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 4: And again not just one of those running backs that

1007
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 4: all right, break last emergerscy dump it off to you, Like, No,

1008
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 4: he's a weapon in the passing game and I am

1009
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 4: a sucker for those kinds of running backs.

1010
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 3: And he's fast.

1011
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 4: I like the explosiveness, and what I like most of

1012
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 4: all is like it doesn't take him long to hit

1013
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: his top speed, like one step and.

1014
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: He is out. And then DJ Giddens.

1015
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 4: I know there's mixed reviews out there for this kid,

1016
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 4: but when I watched him play, I was like, he's

1017
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 4: big and he's got better speed than I would have

1018
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 4: thought for his size, good hands out of the backfield,

1019
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 4: good cutter.

1020
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: I know, sometimes not everything is.

1021
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 4: Perfect in his game, and he could run upright, he

1022
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 4: could get tripped up at times. But I wrote DeMarco Murray,

1023
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 4: we'll watch it him and maybe that is like the

1024
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 4: utmost high end ceiling for him and because of his

1025
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 4: running style. But but I liked him while while I

1026
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 4: was watching him.

1027
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: Anybody here that you have taken a shine to look

1028
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: on man? I love Dylan Samson.

1029
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 3: Man. I can't talk about him enough. I mean, honestly,

1030
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: he's one of those guys that I hope lands in

1031
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 3: the spot they give him opportunity. Because we were talking

1032
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 3: Bucky Irvin. I mean, like these smaller guys are coming

1033
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: out of college and like some of these like you know,

1034
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: draft analysts and stuff like that are saying, like all

1035
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: his size, Bucky Iran was like the rookie running back

1036
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: won last year. So it's like we look at these guys,

1037
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 3: they just need to be put in the right spot.

1038
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 3: Damian Martinez, He's one of my favorite, you know guys

1039
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: on this list. I wouldn't even have him in this tier.

1040
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: I would have him in the tier above, to be honest,

1041
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 3: if he lands in the right spot, being that he

1042
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: has that type of but loosenet for his size and

1043
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: he's able to run you over and catch the ball

1044
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 3: out of the backfield. So this tier is like one

1045
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 3: of my favorite tiers when you have so many running

1046
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: backs that we could really get into that could just

1047
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 3: be utilized in different ways. I mean, Devin Neil, he's

1048
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 3: another guy that he just puts his foot in the ground,

1049
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: he is gone, Like you would literally have to be

1050
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 3: running your absolute best to go get him. Like I

1051
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: mean remember in Super Bad with Seth Rudin and when

1052
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 3: he was an he's the fastest guy, live the fast lie.

1053
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 3: Like that's really what you're watching on tape once he

1054
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 3: gets that breakaway speed. And like he's also another guy

1055
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: that can run routes. He wasn't utilized much in the

1056
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: passing game, but it's just untapped potential there with a

1057
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: lot of these guys in these passing games and this

1058
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 3: tier alone.

1059
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: I would say that I just had this feeling about

1060
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: Trevor etn Right. He's a different sort of player than

1061
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: his brother Travis, obviously, but I think when we talk

1062
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: about landing spot and usage and that sort of thing.

1063
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy who sets himself up well

1064
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: to find himself like a third down pass catching role, right,

1065
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: So I think that's where he sort of excels. If

1066
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: you can get him in space, allow him to use

1067
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: his acceleration and use his elusiveness.

1068
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: I think that sort of works.

1069
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: And we live in PPR world now, right, And so

1070
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: I think you talk about some of these other running

1071
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: backs and asking them to do work on the ground,

1072
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm I think it's gonna be a little bit harder

1073
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: for them to have the so, you know, to have

1074
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: a representative level of production that we're gonna be interested in.

1075
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: Whereas if you have a guy who you know, say

1076
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: what you want about full point PPR or even half

1077
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: point PPR, you're still getting that scoring just by him

1078
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: catching the football and anything he does after that ends

1079
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: up sort of being gravy. So I just have a

1080
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: feeling that, you know, again, all these guys are very

1081
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: landing spot dependent, but with a coach who really does

1082
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: want to use his pass catching prowess, I think there's

1083
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: an avenue for him to go out and be kind

1084
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: of productive.

1085
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 3: There's guys like Jordan James on this list from Oregon,

1086
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: Like he is one of those guys that you want

1087
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: to get utilized more in the passing game, but he

1088
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: just hasn't, like he hasn't had that potential. So unfortunately

1089
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: you can't go into redraft and draft and you can't

1090
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: and go in some of these dynasty leagues for four

1091
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: rounds and put your chip on him because he might

1092
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 3: just land in the backfield. That's just going to be

1093
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 3: just another guy in the backfield. Like he's a great runner,

1094
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 3: a guy he tied twenty twenty three Bucky Eermon with

1095
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 3: eleven touchdowns. So he's like one of those guys that

1096
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: hasn't no sort of red zone. So he might end

1097
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 3: up having some type of role on a team for

1098
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: red zone doty, but that doesn't necessarily translate, you know,

1099
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: to Fantasy points consistently every single week.

1100
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jordan James, I just you know, I worry he's

1101
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: not the fastest guy. No, I think that that's a concern.

1102
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 3: I know that way I wrote down, he punches above

1103
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 3: his weight class because there's guys that he's running full

1104
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: speed at that he will just take them on and

1105
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 3: just go full head. And I'm like, jeez, hold your

1106
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: head up, like your eyes are down, just going full

1107
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 3: speed into a linebacker.

1108
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: Jesus, that might not work in the thing.

1109
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because that feels like a thing you can

1110
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: get away with in college, maybe not so much in

1111
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: the NFL.

1112
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: So that's that would be Michael.

1113
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 3: These linebackers are six eight, three fifty.

1114
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, that's that's just it's just not gonna work.

1115
00:50:58,760 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: It's not gonna work.

1116
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: The same when you run up on Fred Warner, you know,

1117
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: rp your neck.

1118
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.

1119
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: A guys, it's here four as we kind of get

1120
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 1: close to the end. Here we got Jayden Blue, Kyle Mnong,

1121
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: Guy Brishard Smith, LeQuinn Allen, Ollie Gordon, the Second, antaj Brooks, Floria,

1122
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: any of these guys that you feel one sort of

1123
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: way about.

1124
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 4: Uh, we're at the point now where I try not

1125
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 4: to let myself have strong opinions on players because this

1126
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 4: is so landing spot dependent and even these guys, most

1127
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 4: of their landing spots they go to, they're going to

1128
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 4: have to compete to get that role. So I don't

1129
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 4: want myself to fall in love with the player here.

1130
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 4: And then they go to a situation where they're like

1131
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 4: the fourth running back on the depth chart, and I'm like,

1132
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 4: I still like this guy, but like I do jayda

1133
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 4: On Blue, I like, I saw some stuff I like

1134
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 4: with him.

1135
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 3: He's fast, he's a good runner.

1136
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 4: And I will say I was watching pat Path to

1137
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: the Draft last night and Bucky was talking up Alemanongai

1138
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 4: and I'm like, look, if Bucky has you on his radar,

1139
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 4: you are officially on.

1140
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 3: My radar as well. Yeah.

1141
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: Hang, honest, they are literally right in front of my garage.

1142
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: I heard it that time.

1143
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: I'm say we heard that on Yeah, they're like literally

1144
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: right for the garage. Like I saw them like clipping stuff,

1145
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, they're going to totally wait until like

1146
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: ten thirty to like start using the blower and stuff

1147
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: around here.

1148
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: So that to eleven, Yeah, that's true. So yeah, I

1149
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: could pick it up when you're ready, though.

1150
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can mute myself if you want to just

1151
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: just pick it up, I'll talk it.

1152
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: So, Flora, you mentioned Jayden Blue. I mean, honestly, the

1153
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 3: RAMS community they want him to be one of the guys.

1154
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 3: But why I'm so hesitant, Like, yeah, he's explosive. He

1155
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 3: brings everything to the table that we're missing with kyn

1156
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 3: But it's like the fumbles. The ball security man, he

1157
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: had four fumbles last year. Like that is like my

1158
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 3: biggest issue with the Rams community, like pushing his you

1159
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: know name up in the hat to be one of

1160
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: the running backs that we take. And obviously with Sneeze

1161
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 3: connection with Texas, so like everybody's trying to put two

1162
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 3: and two together, but it's the ball security man that

1163
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 3: that drives me nuts. We already got to do with

1164
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 3: Kayen with that right now, so like why would we

1165
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: have two in house?

1166
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I see.

1167
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: I think I think when you're talking about guys on

1168
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: in this tier right who are a little bit lower

1169
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: as you know, you know, look there's a lot of

1170
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: landscaping going on in my in my neighborhood, they're just

1171
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, trying to make the field nice for everybody.

1172
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: That man.

1173
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: I do think I think this is where past catching

1174
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: really does make a difference, right, It's it's finding ways

1175
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: to sort of get on the field.

1176
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing.

1177
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: If you're talking about a guy who's like a powerback

1178
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: who can pick up you know, yards here and there,

1179
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: like you're really asking for that guy to be touchdown dependent,

1180
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: whereas you know a guy who catches the football.

1181
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: Maybe he's a third down back, maybe he's a situational back.

1182
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: But you know, you sort of get that boost from

1183
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: just him catching the football, getting him out in space,

1184
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 1: and more than that, being able to use him sort

1185
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: of all over the field as opposed to just in

1186
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: short yardage or just in the goal line. You know,

1187
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: I think Taj Brooks is example that you know a

1188
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: guy who can sort of do that that maybe you

1189
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 1: see him.

1190
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 2: You know. Obviously, for some of these.

1191
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: Guys, past protection is going to be important because if

1192
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: you're on the field on third down, your job is

1193
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: going to be to help protect the quarterback. But in

1194
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: a two minute situation, right if you find a role,

1195
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: there's no easier way to rack up a bunch of

1196
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: fantasy points quickly than in a two minute drill where

1197
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: they're just having to throw the football to you and

1198
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: able to pick up yards and that sort of thing.

1199
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: So it's definitely a lot harder when we're talking about

1200
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: these guys. I mean, these these are really going to

1201
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: be the guys that you know, the dynasty freaks are

1202
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: going to just you know, love and try to sell

1203
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: us on. These are gonna be the guys that look

1204
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: to your point, Florio, it will be August and I

1205
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: will have been reading something probably you know, I will

1206
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: have been scrolling and hearing a lot of hype about

1207
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: Lea quint Allen or something like that. I'll be like,

1208
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: sixteenth round, why not, let's you know, like two weeks

1209
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: in a season, I'd be like, that wasn't smart.

1210
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 2: You know.

1211
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: It's a lot of yeah, right, Like the fear is

1212
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: real that that sort of thing is gonna happen. So

1213
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: you just have to sort of you know, this is

1214
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: one of those do your homework sort of things to

1215
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: to make sure you know what what is going on

1216
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 1: there for sure.

1217
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody we.

1218
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: Missed, anybody that didn't make this list that you feel

1219
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 1: like needs to get some shine right now?

1220
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 3: No they yeah, yeah, yeah.

1221
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 4: Well we didn't cover lq's boy, Oli Gordon, but we

1222
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 4: got time Gordon.

1223
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 2: Stan U three.

1224
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: Not last season. I mean, I mean last season is

1225
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 3: very disappointing, but might get the other night.

1226
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 4: We're like, yeah, Ollie Gordon's gonna get all the love

1227
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 4: on Dynasty Twitter.

1228
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 3: It's they are they won't let it go. It's kind

1229
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 3: of like Javonte Williams. Sorry, Michael really.

1230
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: You really do you have to throw that elbow? That

1231
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: wasn't necessary? Cool, I'm sorry. Wow, all right, forty nine

1232
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: ers are draft him. All right, we'll be good.

1233
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

1234
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: On that note, Mark, get me out of here. You

1235
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna go and you know, eat my feelings.

1236
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: Now that you said that, just a reminder that we

1237
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: are gonna have a special kind of one off episode

1238
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: for you coming up tomorrow as well. Our interview with

1239
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: Adam Thielen had a chance to sit down with him

1240
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: and chat about a whole variety of subjects, you know,

1241
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: so you get your thoughts on the Carolina Panthers, his

1242
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: feelings on Bryce Young, on Xavier Lagette, Jalen Cocher, on

1243
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: David he's been playing for Dave Canalis that sort of thing.

1244
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: So we talked to him about all sorts of things.

1245
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: So I'd be sure to check that out as well,

1246
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: and then we'll be back with you on Thursday. We're

1247
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: talking to our pow JJ Zacharies and getting his thoughts

1248
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: on some of these running backs as well, So it

1249
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 1: should be a lot of fun for that one. The meantime,

1250
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: that'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy

1251
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: Football podcast, Stay happy, safe and healthy, do good and

1252
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: live well. Enjoy our thead interviews tomorrow everybody, and we'll

1253
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: talk to you again real soon, mhm.