1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cow This is Girls 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Talk Boys Talk, presented by invisil Line, trusted by over 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles, and broadcasting 5 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Now 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: your host, Nicole Hutchison, What. 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: Up, Cowboys Nation? 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: Welcome in a Girls Talk Boys Talk presented by Invisi 9 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: Line in the s WBC studio. 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: I'm Nicole Hutchinson. 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: Alongside Breonna Audridge, Christie Scales, Aisha Morrison. Lady what what? 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 4: Okay? Yeap? 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: That works? 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 4: Static? 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: Okay? 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? Newton dances, God, I wouldn't. 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 4: I'm not doing that. That wasn't that. 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: Dam I can't do what you doing. He's not gonna try. 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna try. 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 5: But there's a lot to be happy about. 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: There's a lot to dance about because the Cowboys have 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 3: added some immediate help on this Dallas defense. I talk 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: about Quentin Williams, one of the best defensive tackles out 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: right now, former. 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 4: Jet now Dallas Cowboy. 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: They got him for in exchange for Mazzie Smith, twenty 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: twenty seven first round pick twenty twenty six second round pick, 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 3: and they made a trade with the Cincinnati Bengals, getting 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: Logan Wilson, a true linebacker for a twenty twenty sixth 30 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: seventh round pick. 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: Ladies, how happy. 32 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 5: Are y'allati ecstatic? 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? All right? 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: What can they bring to this Dallas defense immediately? 35 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 5: Well? 36 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 6: With Quentin Williams, he just is a He's a stabilizer, 37 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 6: that's what he does. 38 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 4: I mean, he's a guy that is going to. 39 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 6: Is going to be honored by double teams and that's 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 6: gonna open up things. I think Nicole made a really 41 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 6: good point last week and bringing up the loss of 42 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 6: Michael Parsons and how that is affected the one on 43 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 6: one matchups on the defensive line. 44 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 4: This is a guy that is going to get. 45 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 6: The respect of that and also too, he resets the 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 6: he resets the defensive line. Of what I mean by 47 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 6: that is that he's able to hold up those double 48 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 6: teams and make it allow the space for linebackers to 49 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 6: come feel, for safeties to come feel. I mean, he's 50 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 6: a difference maker. He's also a guy that's able to 51 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 6: get pressure as well. He's not just a kind of 52 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 6: like an unmovable objects he's an object there and get 53 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 6: up feel and then call some call some penetration. I mean, 54 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 6: this is we were talking about it offline before, is 55 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 6: that this is not just. 56 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 4: A deal for this year. This is a deal for 57 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: multiple years. 58 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 6: So I think it's an awesome pick up for Dallas 59 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 6: to be to go into next year and be able to. 60 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 4: Pick up guys and put guys around him as well. Yeah. 61 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 7: I like what you said when you said difference maker. 62 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 7: That's what Seatnenheimer said yesterday talking about Quinn Williams. That's 63 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 7: the that's the big one out of the two names 64 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 7: that we're going to talk about today. This is one 65 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 7: that when I was talking to some coaches in the offseason, 66 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 7: this is the position that's hard to hit in the 67 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 7: draft nowadays just because of how they're playing in college 68 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 7: and what you're expecting the transition to be once you 69 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 7: come into the NFL. You saw that with Mazzie Smith, 70 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 7: who's no longer on the team, right, and you were 71 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 7: hoping year after year you would see some type of 72 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 7: trend going upward and you didn't. This is a guy 73 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 7: who we've been talking about, who do the offenses come 74 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 7: in and say, Okay, we got to stop this guy. 75 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 7: We gotta we have to fear this guy. 76 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: We have one. 77 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 7: And I think to your point, I U should bringing 78 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 7: up Michael Parsons. That was a guy the offensives feared. 79 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 7: So I think Jerry Jones got a couple more people 80 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 7: on his side. He kind of looks like that guy, 81 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 7: Like he made a move that's actually like you said, 82 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 7: gonna help right now. And this is someone when you're 83 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 7: talking about we've been talking about Osa taking on some 84 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 7: double teams. 85 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: It looks like he's. 86 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 7: Going to be, you know, free, loosened up and what 87 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 7: he needs to be as a free tech. 88 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 8: Yeah. 89 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 7: One hundred and thirty million invested in this defensive tack 90 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 7: through twenty twenty eight. So they're taking this position seriously 91 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 7: as they should. And you just hope we needed stuff. 92 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 7: Cowboys needed stuff on each level of that defense, one 93 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 7: step at a time, and this is a huge step in. 94 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what he's going to do for 95 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: this defense. 96 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, here's the thing. I would say that they 97 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 5: have been taking the position seriously, but their investments have 98 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 5: not been paying off. You better, and that's how that's 99 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 5: why Mosie Smith is headed to New York Jets I'm sorry, 100 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 5: but you can't have a third year player who is 101 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 5: a first round pick inactive half the games this year, 102 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 5: which is decision and go back further. Guess let me 103 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 5: put it this way. Oh, listen, when Quinn Williams was 104 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: drafted third overall in the twenty nineteen draft, excuse me, 105 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 5: twenty twenty nineteen draft, the glasses Andrew who was the 106 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 5: Cowboys first round pick that year? Well, you said, what 107 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 5: year twenty nineteen? The Cowboys spent a first round pick 108 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 5: on defensive tackle that year. It was at the end 109 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 5: of the first round or three. I'm Kristi Hill. So 110 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 5: the team has tried to The Cowboys have have invested 111 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 5: in defensive linemen and they haven't hit on it. And 112 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 5: so the only thing I would say about the moves 113 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 5: is when you traded Michael Parsons and you brought Kenny Clark, 114 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 5: and you said you've improved your run game run defense, 115 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 5: but you really didn't, and so that necessitated the move 116 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 5: for Quinn Williams. But I love Quinn Williams because of 117 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 5: what you ladies said. I agree completely. I think the 118 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 5: other defensive linemen should be so thrilled because they just 119 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 5: got so much better. Since Quinn's going to eat up 120 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 5: a lot of the game planning, be the focal point, 121 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 5: going to take on double teams. The linebackers should be thrilled. 122 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 5: You know, Logan Wilson comes in and he's not going 123 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 5: to know what it's like to not play behind Quinn 124 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 5: Williams for the Cowboys. But what I'm excited about is 125 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 5: is a an elite player like Quinn Williams is he 126 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 5: will be He can be if he performs to the 127 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 5: way he has so far in his career. The Rising Tide, 128 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 5: they'll lift all the boats. 129 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and well, also shout out to Shaddy for giving 130 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: the front office credit because he did say that you know, 131 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: they were being aggressive, they were intentional, they were being 132 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,119 Speaker 3: smart about these moves because like you all ladies mentioned, 133 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: you don't just get them for this year, you get 134 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: them for a couple of years to kind of build 135 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: your defense around. And what it sounds like to me, 136 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: what I got from that press conference is he'll now 137 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: at least you'll get to see what Matt Eberflus truly 138 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: wants to do, and that's that five man front defense 139 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: in line five to defense, and he kind of broke 140 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: it down a little bit because he wants to create 141 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 3: those one on ones a. 142 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 4: Little bit more so you'll have obviously. 143 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: Quinn Williams, possibly Odige Zua, Kenny Clark, whoever. 144 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: Is on the defensive end. We don't know yet who's 145 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: gonna be starting there. 146 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: With there, Donovan got to be better beat. 147 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: We do like Donovan. How much do y'all like that 148 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: five down front more than what they've already been doing. 149 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: I don't think you have to use it? Yeah, I 150 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 5: mean why did you need to use it? Yes? Yes, 151 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 5: And now that you got quintin right, I mean the 152 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 5: whole point when the point that they were talking about 153 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 5: with the five man is that you're. 154 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 6: Trying to spread Yeah, you're trying to spread it out 155 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 6: because it's also condensed, right, I mean, I like it. 156 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 6: I know that when we're in don't trust training camp. 157 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: But I remember in training camp, I'm scared for life. 158 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 6: I remember in trading camp, you know, talking to some 159 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 6: of the guys and they liked the idea of the 160 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 6: five down and also to kind of showing and going 161 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 6: dropping in coverage or rushing or whatever the case may be. 162 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 6: It also is going to open up your stunt game 163 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 6: because again because he's a guy that draws so much attention, 164 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 6: you should be able to work off of that. Free 165 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 6: some guys up, maybe loop some guys around. Maybe Donovan Zarak, 166 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 6: who's a guy that gets involved stuff like that. Maybe 167 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 6: some nickel Blitzer is all that stuff. So we'll see 168 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 6: how Ebra Flues takes this. But I love this pick 169 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 6: up because defensive tackle in covering the draft, having an 170 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 6: opportunity to cover the draft, defensive tackle is such like 171 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 6: a niche position. And the thing about it is, like 172 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 6: I've been saying for a while, you got to get 173 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 6: a proven player and. 174 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 4: If you're and there's nothing wrong. 175 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 6: With drafting guys, cause we saw Walter Nolan give our 176 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 6: interior defensive line the business the other die and his 177 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 6: first and his first game back. So every now and 178 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 6: then you will see guys come in and have immediate impact. 179 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 4: But it's not the norm with that position. And so 180 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: I thought it was important that. 181 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 6: Dallas starts to fill some of these roles at every 182 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 6: level on their defense with a proven person. So when 183 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 6: you draft, because you got both your first round picks 184 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 6: for next year, come. 185 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 4: On, Jerry, I see I see you dealing. You still 186 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: have I didn't know we had one late. 187 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 6: But like Christy said this, this this pickup was important 188 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 6: because it again, it kind of stabilizes your defensive line 189 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 6: and you can add to it now. 190 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: And I just thought it was so smart, just. 191 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 6: Finally getting a proven player in here. And the good 192 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 6: teams have good defensive rotations. I see somebody talking about slim. Oh, 193 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 6: now we gotta set off Kenny Clark. 194 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 4: Are you at your mind? Actually, the good teams have 195 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 4: a rotation. 196 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 6: And to your point, Christy, I think someone Quentin Williams 197 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 6: helps Kenny. 198 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 4: Clark not have to be not have to be out 199 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 4: there every single play. 200 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 6: Now, he probably isn't gonna be out there, but at 201 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 6: least you have enough guys to kind of rotate in 202 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 6: and out. 203 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 4: And yeah, so I just I think it was a 204 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 4: smart pickup and I'm excited about having her defensive tackle 205 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 4: here in Dallas. 206 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 5: And by the way, one of the other guys that's 207 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 5: part of the rotation. We said that Quentin Williams was 208 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 5: the third overall pick in twenty nineteen, how about having 209 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 5: the third overall pick in twenty seventeen, Solomon Thomas. 210 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: So, yeah, that's gonna who's helpful. 211 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I will say he did, by the way, 212 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 5: leave the game in the fourth quarter with a calf 213 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 5: entry and didn't return to the game Monday night against 214 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 5: the Cardinals. So by week, yeah, coming at a good 215 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 5: time for a lot of players, but even some guys 216 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 5: that haven't been talked about since Monday night who got 217 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 5: nicked up in that. 218 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, Hopefully the bye week the guys can come back 219 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 7: health and you can really see what this group can do. 220 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: But I think it also will have a. 221 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 7: Little bit more heat on at ebraflues, because what are 222 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 7: you going to do now that you have this personnel 223 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 7: upfront that you were kind of spread thin and you 224 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 7: saw them having to figure out how to come down 225 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 7: and blitz more, and you know, I think there's gonna 226 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 7: be questions still in the secondary how to disguise what's 227 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 7: going on back there. Chevon Revel's coming back, So that's exciting. 228 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 7: The Marion over shown the day that Quinn Williams supposed 229 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 7: to make his debut is a Dallas Cowboys. Hello, you 230 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 7: have Logan Wilson who's also expected to make his debut Vegas. 231 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 7: That's when Overshow's coming back, Like, this defense has got 232 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 7: a little bit that more exciting because of when you're 233 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 7: looking at all three levels of what we have in 234 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 7: every spot, like there's a little bit of in each level. Now, guys, 235 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 7: that's something that was hurting. You're saying your confidence is 236 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 7: gone up. 237 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: It's like I was just like, I literally I'm not playing. 238 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: I took a nap. 239 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 7: I thought like, I was like, okay, that thing is 240 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 7: like nothing's happening whatever. I took a nap, woke up 241 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 7: thirty minutes of this and breaking as I woke up, 242 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 7: I said, we did what because you know, there's a 243 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 7: lot of those like fake little pages and stuff that 244 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 7: be getting on my nerves. 245 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: Oh, I said, oh my god. 246 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 7: And all the all the Cowboys fans had that like meme. 247 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: What was like, wait a minute, It's like yeah. 248 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 5: But you know to your point, Brie, these are catalytic players, 249 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 5: right with Demo coming back. But the thing is with 250 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 5: with Logan Wilson, his numbers, just doing a deep dive 251 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 5: on his background and some of his numbers Sean Lee 252 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 5: esque in terms of catalytic plays. Eleven interceptions for a linebacker, 253 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 5: that's what, Yeah, that's why the forest fumbles. Now, this 254 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 5: is his career, seventy six games have an interceptions and 255 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 5: you say, you know, heck, I take that in the 256 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 5: cornerback at this rate, and then I'll sit through with her. 257 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 5: The six forced fumbles, three fumble recoveries, twenty five passes defense, 258 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 5: so can do some some coverage. But I know we'll 259 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 5: talk about Logan Wilson as we go on, but there's 260 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 5: a lot to like with this player. I know he 261 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 5: had had reduced playing time this year as the Bengals 262 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 5: were going younger at that position, but yeah, you need 263 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 5: you need playmakers at each level, and I think with 264 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 5: Wilson and Ya coming back, have that in that mid 265 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 5: level there. 266 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: And both of these guys have are coming into better positions. 267 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 7: At the end of the day, when you're looking at 268 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 7: the Jets, they're they're a dumpster fire right now. 269 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: They are just they gave away. 270 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: All their parts. 271 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, the garden. 272 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 7: I thought that was going to be the and I 273 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 7: was like, oh man, oh okay. 274 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 3: Yeah. 275 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 5: As soon as I heard that, I'm like, well, I'm 276 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 5: not gonna not gonna Getquinn Williams. 277 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 6: To your point, I felt the other way when I 278 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 6: saw I tweeted it. I was like, when I saw 279 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 6: that Sauce got. 280 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 4: Traded, I said, as they bring it up. Actually yeah, 281 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 4: because uh I saw Joe Joe. 282 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 6: Joseph Hoy that was one of the news He was like, 283 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 6: if I'm Dallas, you know I'm going after it. And 284 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 6: I was like, heck yeah immediately, and then like thirty minutes. 285 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 4: Later, I was like, you said do it? 286 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was this is very uncharacteristic of Dallas. But 287 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 6: I do think that this time, this this trade deadline, 288 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 6: it was different then when some of these I'm saying 289 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 6: as far as. 290 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 5: The characteristic of recent Dallas, Dallas. Okay, so this used 291 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 5: to be. This used to be the thing I say 292 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 5: wild wild west that means like undisciplined, And I don't 293 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 5: mean to imply it that way, but believe me, every 294 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 5: day that he would come into work would be like. 295 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 4: What's gonna happen to day? 296 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: Let me Christy, were you shocked when this happened yesterday? 297 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 8: I was. 298 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 5: I was thrilled with Quinn White, the logan Wilson, It's like, okay, okay, yeah, 299 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 5: that's good. 300 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: You know it's yeah, and then it didn't. 301 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 5: But but but you needed to help. You needed the 302 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 5: help up front. The way to improve your secondary is 303 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 5: to improve the past. Rush affecting the quarterback, and you 304 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 5: have to do better against I mean, it's been so 305 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 5: bad against the run, so I mean a chance to 306 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 5: maybe get some stops on third downs that would be amazing. 307 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 6: It's a good course correct and I agree with you 308 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 6: Christy to the fact of they brought in Jackson Bourne 309 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 6: thought he was going to be able to and again 310 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 6: we understand that he's on I R and now and everything, 311 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 6: but that didn't look the way that. 312 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: I think was expected. So they correct with Logan Wilson. 313 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 8: Cool. 314 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you see, you bring in Kenny Clark. 315 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 6: The run defense is not it's it's not it needs help. 316 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: It needs some help. 317 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say it much better with him than 318 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 5: it would have been without. 319 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely, So they see they saw this ain't enough deficient. Yeah, 320 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: that's it right now. 321 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's fair. Yes, it's a right now move. And 322 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 6: then with Mozzie Smith them, you know, sending him off. 323 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 4: In the trade. Again, it's another course correction. 324 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 6: I mean, they had him inactive for all of you know, 325 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 6: most of the season at this point, and they decided 326 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 6: this isn't working. 327 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 4: So to me, I know that we give them a 328 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 4: lot of crap. I know, we're hard on them, but. 329 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 6: I do think this, this type of mentality and the 330 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 6: decisions that they made with this are fullward thinking and 331 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 6: I'm happy for that because the better teams in the 332 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 6: NFL are for thinking and proactive. 333 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I found my mistaken Christy. They save a 334 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: little money. 335 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 5: So now, yeah, so what you do. So his base salary, 336 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 5: the half of the base salary that's due to Mozzie 337 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 5: is picked up by the Jets. So Ozzie was due. 338 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 5: Let's see Mozzie's base salary was Actually it's pretty low 339 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 5: this year, one point nine five six. Let's just round 340 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 5: up to two million. So the Jets will pick up 341 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 5: the last half of that, So write it a million dollars. 342 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 5: Talk about the what you're taking on with Quinn Williams. 343 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 5: So money. The Jets paid seven point eight five million 344 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 5: for the first half of the season. The Cowboys the 345 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 5: rest of this year owe him seven point eight two 346 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 5: five million. That's it, that's it. 347 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking like that. 348 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, you got it, and then not at all. 349 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 5: But you're on the hook for the base for the 350 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 5: dollar years. So in twenty twenty six, his base is 351 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 5: twenty point seventy five million and then in twenty twenty seven, 352 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 5: twenty five point four million. Is that a lot of money, Yes, 353 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 5: but the cap goes up every year, and for one 354 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 5: of the premier defensive tackles. 355 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: That's not a lot of money. 356 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 5: Because what happened was when he signed Quinn Williams signed 357 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 5: his four year extension for ninety six million dollars with 358 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 5: the Jets that made him the second highest paid a 359 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 5: defensive tackle in NFL history. That was back in twenty 360 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: twenty three, and included right under fifty million guaranteed. All 361 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 5: those bonuses and things like that were and roster bonuses 362 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 5: even heading into this year, were all picked up by 363 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 5: the Jets. 364 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: You basically got him for I won't say for nothing, 365 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: but for a lot cheaper than you would have gotten 366 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 3: for somebody. 367 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 5: Still a lot of yeah, And with and with and 368 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 5: with Logan Wilson, he had signed a four year, thirty 369 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 5: six million dollar contract extension with the Bengals near the 370 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 5: same time that Quinnen signed his with the Jets back 371 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three. What Logan Wilson is going to 372 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 5: cost you this year? The rest of the way Cowboys 373 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 5: two point six to eight four million. The Bengals already 374 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 5: paid that for the first half of the season and 375 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 5: then keep him the next two years. He would be 376 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 5: six million dollars in base next year, six point six 377 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 5: six million in base in twenty twenty seven. So affordable 378 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 5: for a starter. 379 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, still a lot of capital to go, but this 380 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 7: is someone who they wanted absolutely before that didn't work 381 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 7: in the beginning. In this offseason, that's some one that 382 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 7: Jerry was looking at targeting and the Jets. You know, 383 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 7: you got air coming up there there rebuilding and obviously 384 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 7: the rebuilding didn't working. It's working out in our favors. 385 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 5: And what you're paying, uh, Kenny Clark, what you're paying 386 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 5: Quinn Williams, and you could even throw in Logan Wilson. 387 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 5: That's what Mica was going to cost. 388 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they flipped it and reversed it. I 389 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: like it, Yeah, to have to. I mean really, the 390 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 4: the trade, like the picks, the pick. 391 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 6: Compensation, the way they worked it I thought was awesome 392 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 6: and also too, I'm keep it a bill, y'all. Haven't 393 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 6: really done Cowboys haven't really drafted wheel as ever. Donavan Azerock, 394 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 6: who seems like he's working out, but in the second 395 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 6: round it's been so. 396 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 4: Just you don't think about it. You don't even got 397 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: to think about the second round. Lead a second round alone. 398 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: Don't even look over there, okay, because. 399 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: You we're gonna look at the second segment. 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If you trade yesterday, how valuable 452 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 3: is a Logan Wilson to this defense that is struggling 453 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 3: really big at that linebacker position, real bad, real big. 454 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 4: Yeah me, you just get another you get another veteran 455 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 4: in there. 456 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 6: I think Kenneth Murray unfortunately has not played up to 457 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 6: the expectations. I think they had obviously, Jack Sanbourne goes 458 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 6: on to IR this is probably the most extinctual player 459 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 6: that is on that second level. It allows a guy 460 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 6: like Shamar James Di Mariano over shown to kind of 461 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 6: and maybe Marisley if i don't know what's going on there, 462 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 6: but I'm not gonna go there to have some time 463 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 6: to fit into this scheme. And I just think, you know, 464 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 6: you get like right now, none of your linebackers can 465 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 6: cover and people have been killing you with that. You 466 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 6: get a little bit more of a coverage ability with 467 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 6: Logan Wilson, And I want to say, I know a 468 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 6: lot of people are like, well he was bench when 469 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 6: he was with the Bengals. 470 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 4: They just were going younger. Which happens We see it 471 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 4: happen in the NFL. 472 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 6: All the time, is that a team drafts another guy, 473 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 6: young guy, and they want to and that's probably why 474 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 6: they were willing to let him go, is because they're 475 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 6: trying to get younger at the position. 476 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that the guy still can't play. 477 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 6: So I just think you just get a guy that's 478 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 6: really tough, very very physical. He got a lot of attitude, 479 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 6: plays with some instincts, and I think again he's gonna 480 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 6: allow those young guys to have some buffer to develop 481 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 6: and learn the position. So that's where I'm at with it. 482 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 6: I'm happy with it. 483 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, both these defense Cowboys and Bengals, they're pretty much 484 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 7: at the bottom together, chilling. 485 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: So I think that's where a lot of the criticism 486 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 2: came from. Logan Wilson. 487 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 7: You're, okay, you're looking at this veteran piece, but then 488 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 7: you're saying he's sitting the bench. I really like how 489 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 7: he answered his questions about they seem genuine about sitting 490 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 7: behind some of you know, the rookies and being able 491 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 7: to support them. But he did ask for a trade. 492 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 7: He wanted out, he wanted a fresh start, so I 493 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 7: think he's getting that. So going back to Quinn Williams, 494 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 7: you could see, you know, he's had seven losing seasons, 495 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 7: like he's a premier player and he hasn't been able 496 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 7: to see the upside of winning and what it's like now. 497 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 7: Even though the Cowboys, we know there's some droughts there 498 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 7: in the postseason, but they've had had success here and 499 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 7: they have had winning seasons when you're talking about the 500 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 7: regular seasons anything like that. But Logan Wilson you can 501 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 7: only you can only go up at this point. For 502 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 7: what we have seen from all the linebackers. You mentioned 503 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 7: Sam Borne last segment. He was supposed to be the 504 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 7: veteran piece and the leader the green dot wasn't working out. 505 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: Kenneth Murray. 506 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 7: Not to take so much away from him, I know 507 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 7: he doesn't seem like he can be the person to 508 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 7: direct traffic in. 509 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 4: The linebacker group, and I think, great way to put it. 510 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 7: That's that's the part I'm not gonna I think it 511 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 7: was just a little bit too much on his plate. 512 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 7: Shamar James is someone who I like, but I do 513 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 7: think having him in there too much exposes some of 514 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 7: the mental laps that comes with the rookie. So I 515 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 7: think this comes in and maybe you do see some 516 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 7: packages with Logan Wilson and Kenneth Murray where you see 517 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 7: Kenneth Murray he has had some decent games, because I 518 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 7: remember us talking about ooh, did you see Kenneth come 519 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 7: down and make these tackles, But then when he had 520 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 7: to get in the green dot, you started to see 521 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 7: a little bit digressed. So I think this actually will 522 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 7: help Kenneth Murray. And then I like the thinking about 523 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 7: Marion Overshown coming in there. What does that look like 524 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 7: with Logan Wilson in there, and it's Shamar James in there, 525 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 7: who's not going to again not going to have as 526 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 7: probably as many as reps as you were seeing before. 527 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 7: So I think he just makes the whole group stronger. 528 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because he'll be kind of like the communicator, 529 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 5: the traffic cop, kind of directing everything there. And so 530 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 5: I think in tangibles at that position in particular are 531 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 5: very important. And here's a guy who a team captain 532 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 5: for Cincinnati. By the way, Quinn Williams is a captain 533 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 5: for the Jets as well, So you're getting high character guys, 534 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 5: you know, football loving guys coming to the team. So 535 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 5: that's important. But Wilson was a guy, He's from Wyoming, 536 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 5: grew up there, played college football. There was a captain 537 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 5: as an underclassman there in college. But I want to 538 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 5: go back to what I was talking about with the 539 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 5: catalytic plays, is it's not just Wilson's ability to make 540 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 5: some big time plays, and I'll talk about a couple 541 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 5: in particular, but by taking on a lot of those responsibilities, 542 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 5: it's freeing up the demos right to do that or 543 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 5: Shaman or Marist, you know, because Marris can make these 544 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 5: catalytic plays. We just hadn't seen it as much this year, 545 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 5: but it just seems like what stood out to me 546 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 5: was there were a couple of really huge plays that 547 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 5: I remember that the Bengals defense made during their recent 548 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 5: playoff front, right the Joe Burrow era and all the 549 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 5: focus on the you know, Jamar Chase and t Higgins 550 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 5: and Joe Burrow, and rightfully so. But back in twenty 551 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 5: twenty one, when the Bengals got their first road playoff 552 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 5: win in that franchise's history, it was Logan Wilson that 553 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 5: had the interception that set up that game winning field 554 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 5: goal right at the end, and then they had a 555 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 5: wild card win over Baltimore and that was a I 556 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 5: think a lot of people considered that an upset win. 557 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 5: And it was Logan Wilson who forced the fumble at 558 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 5: the two yard line that teammate Sam Hubbard picked up 559 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 5: and ran ninety eight yards for a touch down. So 560 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 5: I use the term catalytic for these game changing place 561 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 5: because it's something that Bill Parcells talked about that he 562 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 5: would talk about catalytic players and catalytic place so kind 563 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 5: of an old school term there, but I think it's 564 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 5: one that really describes this player. 565 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: Now you get a guy that can cover, a guy 566 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 3: that obviously had four seasons of one hundred plus tackles. 567 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 2: And also one thing that I wrote down. 568 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: Is he has he is the third highest pass rush 569 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 3: grade of linebackers in twenty twenty five, that's per PFF. 570 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 2: So he can do it all. 571 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: Now that you're gonna probably need them to do that 572 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 3: because you just brought it a guy who hello should help that. 573 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: But when you talk about, you know, obviously. 574 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: Getting comfortable now in a Matt eberflu system coming from 575 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 3: another system, do you guys have any concerns there with 576 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 3: those two guys getting adjusted. 577 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 10: No? 578 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 5: Yes, well it is lucky timing for the boy in 579 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 5: terms of Cowboys with it trade deadline, you know, so 580 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 5: it'll be can't even say in their playbook anymore, everything 581 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 5: on the pad. But you know they can meet with 582 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 5: the coaches and try and catch up cerebrally, right, but 583 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 5: won't get to be on the field. I mean they 584 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 5: won't even really meet their teammates, get to be in 585 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 5: the locker room with them until next week because today 586 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 5: is Wednesday and players will be off till next week. 587 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 6: That's fair. 588 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 3: When you look at this Dallas defense, they rank near 589 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: the bottom in almost every statistical category. When you think 590 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: about one area where Wilson can come in and immediately fix, what. 591 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 8: Is that. 592 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 4: Communication? And that's that's half of it. 593 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know how many times you see 594 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 6: on film guys like pushing the other guy into this 595 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 6: gap or you know, trying to communicate right at the snap. 596 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 6: And I just think, you know, like you ladies were saying, 597 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 6: is that he helps with the communication. He helps with stabilizing 598 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 6: that that. 599 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 4: Level of the defense. 600 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 6: And again, the instincts so many times this past week 601 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 6: you watched it, they ate you up in the flat, 602 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 6: killed you in the flats because they knew that your 603 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 6: linebackers will be slow to recognize and they took advantage 604 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 6: of that. Hopefully guys are just in their spots faster. 605 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 6: Then if you get in your spot faster, then some 606 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 6: of these plays can be avoided, you know. So for me, sorry, 607 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 6: So for me, I think that just as instincts kind 608 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 6: of just help, hopefully will help this second level be 609 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 6: a tick faster. Because there's also times where the defensive 610 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 6: tackles are holding, but the linebackers are late to fill. 611 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 6: So hopefully these guys are just a little bit quicker 612 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 6: to the punch, and I think that's gonna help the 613 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 6: second level overall. 614 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, okahead, No, I was gonna say that. 615 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 7: I think what I was gonna say kind of fit 616 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 7: into the communication part because it's just he's a guy 617 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 7: who knows where to be and although this is a 618 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 7: new playbook for him, he's done this before, He's been 619 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 7: at the biggest stage before, he knows what it takes. 620 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: It's the bye week, Quinn Williams. 621 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 7: If I'm not mistaken, the Jets, he's gonna have a 622 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 7: double bye week, so he's gonna be very much well 623 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 7: rested coming into this. But again, what we've seen is 624 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 7: like and what we talked about, these were some guys 625 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 7: who had success last season, who had success in the past. 626 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: They didn't just forget how to play the game. 627 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 7: And Maris is someone who I'm like, eh, because I 628 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 7: had so much you know, uptick and he's made some 629 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 7: very good plays. I know, over running the ball is 630 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 7: something that he have to do, and just being in 631 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 7: the wrong spot even last week's play, the big fifty 632 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 7: yard pass. I'm like, I see four dudes and one 633 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 7: guy in the middle, Like, what is going on? And 634 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 7: it just feels like the linebackers continuously are in the 635 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 7: wrong spots, getting sucked in. Your DB's are playing a 636 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 7: little bit too much off the ball, and I think 637 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 7: Logan Wilson coming in to your point of communication and 638 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 7: just literally being. 639 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: In the right spot. 640 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 7: I don't think he's the fastest guy in the world, 641 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 7: but him just being in the right spot and make 642 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 7: sure that the guy's next to him over communicating is 643 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 7: gonna help. 644 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 6: Why are Christy in what scenario would Kenny Clark be released? 645 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 4: It would it be for financials or would. 646 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 5: It be they're talking about let me let me look 647 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 5: at his numbers on that. 648 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 7: Because I'm about to get next It would be next season. 649 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 6: It's a conversation of what the defensive tackle room will 650 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 6: look like, it says Quentin Williams. 651 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 4: Also Diggizua Solomon Thomas. 652 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 6: Another guy we're forgetting Perryon Winfree, who I think is 653 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 6: gonna be a handful for some Like, I mean, we 654 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 6: saw him in preseason, but we saw him against you know, 655 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 6: the Dallas starters and training camp. 656 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't do it. 657 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 6: But but Perryon Winfrey is a guy that if he 658 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 6: is if he does come in and play, well, that's 659 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 6: a big addition as well. That's a big boost for 660 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 6: you as well. And then obviously you drafted Joe Toya 661 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 6: j Toya in the seventh round. This is again, like 662 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 6: we talked about, this is another opportunity for a young 663 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 6: guy to get this man body, learn the position a 664 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 6: little bit more, get some teaching behind some veteran guys. 665 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 6: But the Kenny Clark thing is interesting to me because 666 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 6: I would like for Dallas to have again a good 667 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 6: rotation as they possibly can there. Keep those guys fresh. 668 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 6: They're not known for having high motors. 669 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 4: Keep those guys fresh. 670 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 6: And if it's okay, like hear me out, I know 671 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 6: it's been weird. Your ends have been your strength for 672 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 6: a long time. 673 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, what if you switching? 674 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, And not that your ends will and not that 675 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 6: your ends will be weak. But we know teams that 676 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 6: have good defensive, defensive interior play and their edgeplay is 677 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 6: not just stellar, but it balances out because it opens 678 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 6: up so much for you. So I'm hoping that maybe 679 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 6: that's what happens here. But the Kenny Clark thing. 680 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 4: Is interesting to me. 681 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm here, I don't see his base next 682 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 5: year is eight point eight million, but he's due an 683 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 5: eleven million dollar roster bonus. He gets a workout bonus 684 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 5: of seven hundred thousand. His cap hit would be twenty 685 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 5: one point five million, and then in twenty twenty seven 686 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 5: it would be a twenty million cap hit eighteen minstructure. 687 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 7: It's so a lot of restress to restructure him if 688 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 7: he wants to stay others. 689 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the thing that about it is that 690 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 5: there's an out a contract where you wouldn't have to 691 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 5: eat money. So that's I think that's part of the 692 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 5: conversation of you you wouldn't get hit with dead money 693 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 5: if you Yeah, but there's one I'm glad you guys 694 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 5: mentioned Perry on Winfrey because here's kind of a fun fact. 695 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 5: He was teammates. He played along the line with Quinn Williams, 696 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 5: Solomon Thomas. They were all three of those guys were 697 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 5: together there, uh with the Jets, which is which is 698 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 5: fun and interesting. 699 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, uh huh. 700 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 3: It reminds me of that Spongeboll song Best Day. 701 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 702 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fine. 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We're back. 760 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 5: Love that all right? 761 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 3: Nicole ig Just and Rihanna Aldridge, Christy scale Ayisha Morrison 762 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 3: and uh ladies, I know cool. 763 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: Let's go to you. 764 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 4: Christy. 765 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 3: You had an awesome story about Quinn Williams, which yeah, yeah. 766 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: Just you know. 767 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 5: I think character is developed early in life and sometimes 768 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 5: in most formative years, right, junior high high school, and 769 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 5: Quinn Williams. I had read a little bit of a 770 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 5: story and thought I remembered it, so I went back 771 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 5: and looked at it again last night. We know that 772 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 5: Quinn played alongside his older brother, Quincy, the linebacker right 773 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 5: with the Jets. But anyway, he's one of four children. 774 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 5: And Quinnin and Quincy and the siblings, they lost their 775 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 5: mother to breast cancer when Quinn was just twelve years old. 776 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 5: She had been a five year cancer breast cancer survivor 777 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 5: and had been in remission for a long time and 778 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 5: then it came back and it was when Quinn was, 779 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 5: you know, junior high age. Basically, he has a tattoo 780 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 5: on his chest that he got when he was in 781 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 5: eighth grade and it's to honor his mom. So it's got, 782 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 5: you know, the pink stars and the symbol, you know, 783 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 5: like a pink ribbon and the like. But this is 784 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 5: a kid to you know now that the dad is 785 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 5: trying to raise four kids by himself. And so Quinnen 786 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 5: would wake up early, early early every morning and cook 787 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 5: breakfast right so that his dad wouldn't have too And 788 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 5: so Quinnon and Quincy, the siblings, they all took on 789 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 5: various responsibilities, and so I just think that that facing 790 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 5: I mean, tragedy and horrible adversity in junior high years. 791 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of my friends are teachers. I 792 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 5: always thought I was going to be a teacher, and 793 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 5: they'll tell you that that. You know, that junior high 794 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 5: period that's kind of like the toughest for kids a 795 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 5: lot of times. And think of all the extra responsibilities 796 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 5: that he had. So it's kind of like Dak Prescott 797 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 5: and the way that he was changed by his mother's 798 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 5: death from cancer. When Dak was at Mississippi State. You know, 799 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 5: he came in here. Some people are old souls, you know, 800 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 5: and we haven't had a chance to talk to quinnin yet, 801 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 5: but it forms you moving forward. So you read about 802 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 5: it's not a surprise to know that he was one 803 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 5: of the captains right college and the success that he 804 00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 5: had immediately at Alabama and taken on leave ship roles 805 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 5: when he was with the Jets. It's not just because 806 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 5: he was a first round pick and a lot was expected, 807 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 5: but just of who he is. So I think that 808 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 5: it'll be really cool because next year, next October, he'll 809 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 5: probably be one of the guys out front in terms 810 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 5: of the things with UH the initiatives and community service 811 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 5: for breast cancer Awareness months. Susan g. Coman Foundation, by 812 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 5: the way, was founded here in Dallas. So I think 813 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 5: there's a lot to look forward to what he brings, 814 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 5: not only to the team on the field, but in 815 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 5: the locker room and in the community. 816 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 8: Yeah. 817 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 2: And you don't ever hear anything negative about. 818 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 5: Him, No, jolly happy and everybody you would read about him. 819 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 4: But also do that that's it. 820 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 5: I say that not to bring down the room. I'm 821 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 5: just telling that these guys, you think that their first 822 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 5: round picks, they have all this money, they were stars 823 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 5: at Alabama and national championships and man, they got it. 824 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 5: They've had it handed to him their whole life. No, No, 825 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 5: there are some tremendous stories in this locker room and 826 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 5: guys who have overcome so much that you don't hear about. 827 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 5: And the fact that NFL, you know, they play under 828 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 5: a helmet and under pads, and unlike basketball, where you 829 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 5: know everyone more feelic because you see them and you 830 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 5: recognize them because they're not covered by a helmet. But 831 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 5: there are a lot of really great human interest stories 832 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 5: on this team, and I think he's gonna walk in 833 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 5: and be one of those. I love that. 834 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 4: I love that. 835 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 3: I do want to ask you, ladies, before we do go, 836 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 3: who does I'll. 837 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 2: Start with the linebacker position. 838 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 3: Who does this put on notice this Logan Wilson trade 839 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 3: immediately Kenneth Urry. 840 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 2: Sure, Poor Kenny, Poor Kenny. 841 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 7: I like them, but like I said, I saw him 842 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 7: start off kind of slow, make some progress, and then 843 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 7: when he was asked to take on a bigger role, 844 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 7: it just hasn't worked out. Logan Wilson, and as soon 845 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 7: as he learns his playbook, which I feel like, I 846 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 7: have faith that he will be in that position come 847 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 7: Monday night with this by week happening, but I think 848 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 7: it's gonna be Kenneth Murray. I do think there are 849 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 7: despite I know the Kennick Murray train has gone down 850 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 7: a little bit, but again I did see some good 851 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 7: things he was able to do and coming down and 852 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 7: you know, helping in the run game and getting those tacks. 853 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 7: He had some flashes now and I think limiting his 854 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 7: reps and putting him in some certain packages with a 855 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 7: Logan Wilson can be beneficial. But I think he's the 856 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 7: one that when you're looking at all the young guys 857 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 7: and the whose athletic ability, and when Shamar James get 858 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 7: into a rhythm, when Maris gets into a rhythm. 859 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 2: I think he's the guy that kind of leaves my mind. 860 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 6: To your point, not every linebacker can play every linebacker spot. 861 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 4: Not everybody's a strong nobody. 862 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 6: Ever, everybody's a will so he can go back to 863 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 6: his regular spot and be comfortable there. I'm gonna say this, 864 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 6: and it sounds weird, but when we did the draft 865 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 6: show and the linebacker culture at that time came in, 866 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 6: he told us that they were looking at Mayersleiafel. 867 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 4: To be the MIC. I do remember that because that 868 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 4: was what he was known for. 869 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 6: It's the communication, the instincts, obviously a little out of 870 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 6: control at times, but they thought that that's something they 871 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 6: could harness. I do think them having to continue to 872 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 6: add to this room, despite the fact that you know, it's. 873 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 4: Different schemes and stuff like that. We are gonna get 874 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 4: to a. 875 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 6: Point to where you're looking at, where does Mayors fit 876 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 6: in this linebacker room? Because again I intended you to 877 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 6: be what I just brought. I've brought two gentlemen in 878 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 6: here to be and I know it's a lot to ask. 879 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 6: I know he's still young. I know he's still developing. 880 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 6: What I will say is that I don't know if 881 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 6: he's gonna notice like Murray, but I do think that 882 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 6: him coming that there does need to be some real 883 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 6: clear showing of development in this latter part of the year, 884 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 6: because you gotta start seeing something from him as a 885 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 6: linebacker special teams. 886 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 4: He gonna get after it. 887 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 6: Sure, I think he's one of your best guys in pumpers. 888 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 6: I think he's one of your best gunners. He's fantastic. 889 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 6: But he was drafted to be a part of this 890 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 6: core defense and I really want to see him and 891 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 6: the Marion over shown together as well. 892 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 7: Oh yeah yeah, And they've made him earn it up 893 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 7: until this point, to be fair, like from us from 894 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 7: this standpoint, from the outside, you thought it was a 895 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 7: guy who's kind of automatically going and he wasn't. No 896 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 7: think after a week giving him like literally like three 897 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 7: more snaps, four more stabs. And I'm sure that has 898 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 7: a lot to do with Matt eberflu sees and he 899 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 7: sees things that we don't. But it seems like this 900 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 7: is something that's going to continuously have to be proven 901 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 7: to get that trust with eberflu it's trust. 902 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 3: I think there's a little bit more grace though that 903 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 3: comes with Emersleio foul, just because one, he is still 904 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 3: young and he's still growing and developing, and you saw 905 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 3: what he was able to do behind in Eric Kendricks, right, 906 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 3: So I think they are giving him a little bit 907 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 3: more grace. 908 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 2: My person was probably. 909 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 3: And I say this because we do love Damon Clark 910 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 3: over here, but we hadn't really seen him in this 911 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 3: scheme at all. 912 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 5: Know he's he's been active the past few weeks, but 913 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 5: played only teams. 914 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 4: Exactly and that this year. 915 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he got his loves already. 916 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, but when you have guys, sorry stop, but when 917 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 3: you have guys like with Jack Sanborn, Yeah, he is 918 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 3: on IR. 919 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 4: He's still a VET, He's still Eberfluss. 920 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 3: Guy, Kenneth Murray. Granted he has not played his best ball. 921 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 3: I think they're giving him a little bit more grace 922 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,399 Speaker 3: as well, granted because he is. 923 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 5: A proven VET. 924 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna stick with them. 925 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair. 926 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 927 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 9: Yeah. 928 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,720 Speaker 5: And the thing about Sanborne and Murray, you know Sanborn 929 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,959 Speaker 5: when he came in, he signed just one year deal, 930 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 5: and then Murray was it was a trade so you 931 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 5: pick up the contract from the Titans, and it was 932 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 5: this is the second of his two year deal with 933 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 5: the Titans, so he's free after this year too. 934 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 9: So. 935 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 4: Just fix it, lord anybody. 936 00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 2: We don't care who it is. 937 00:44:59,320 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 4: I don't care. 938 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 5: But here's the thing. You know, we hear all the 939 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 5: time here all the time that it's you know, competing 940 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 5: competing for time, competing for time on the practice field. 941 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 5: And in the past sometimes you think God's it's lip service, 942 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:18,959 Speaker 5: you know, because these guys are setting hey, now, wow, yeah, 943 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 5: you better turn it up every day at practice if 944 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 5: you're gonna get on the field. 945 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 4: I like it. 946 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 6: They like the energy, like, hey, if you ain't getting 947 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 6: it done, we'll get somebody else to do it. And 948 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 6: even with the defensive end rotation this week, they said, hey, 949 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 6: y'all ain't getting it done. 950 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 4: It's gonna be clowning and the iraku and I personally, 951 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 4: I know it wasn't. It wasn't pretty. The whole time. 952 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 6: Those gentlemen played the run better than we've seen any Edges. 953 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 4: Be playing the run all year. They contain, yeah, absolutely 954 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 4: got the done. Yes, So it's a it's a I 955 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 4: feel like it's a work in progress. 956 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is not necessarily as long as they show 957 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 6: progress as the season goes on. After the bye, let's 958 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 6: turn up, let's try to you know, like I know, 959 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 6: I don't want to talk about playoffs, but more so, 960 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 6: just build some confidence. 961 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, build some confidence. 962 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 6: Build some rapport, you know, get some wins, get you know, 963 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 6: get a feel for what you want your team to 964 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 6: feel like. 965 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 4: So when you go into the draft and stuff next year, 966 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 4: you know what's up. You got a plan. 967 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know how Bree was talking about Clowny just 968 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 3: knocked the dust off. 969 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 4: I liked it. 970 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 3: Well, that's how the Cowboys is. A team knocked the 971 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 3: dust off and hope it's losing dust because we don't 972 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 3: want that. 973 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 2: No, I wish they had one more wind that. 974 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 4: It's fine, we're. 975 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 2: Gonna claim win. 976 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 4: Yeah they could have got that win. 977 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 2: It's fine. 978 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 3: But that's a wrap of to day show. We'll be 979 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 3: back here tomorrow. While we won't be back here tomorrow. 980 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,439 Speaker 2: We shall, Christy, I just lied. 981 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 4: We ain't gonna be back here tomorrow. 982 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 3: Y'all gonna be back here tomorrow that show, will we not? 983 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 2: We'll be back here on Monday at eight am. But 984 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 2: that's a wrap. Happy bye week guys. 985 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 5: For Christie Scales, Aisha Morrison. I'm Nicole Hutchinson. 986 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 2: See y'all back here next week. 987 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 988 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,240 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 989 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 4: No.