1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:21,955 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. It 2 00:00:22,035 --> 00:00:24,835 Speaker 1: is still the longest of long shots. But there could 3 00:00:24,915 --> 00:00:28,315 Speaker 1: yet be indictments in this country of Donald Trump and 4 00:00:28,435 --> 00:00:33,995 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani for their conspiracies with Russian operatives, because the 5 00:00:34,075 --> 00:00:38,235 Speaker 1: evidence that the Hunter Biden Barismas story is the product 6 00:00:38,355 --> 00:00:42,515 Speaker 1: of the gru Russian military intelligence, and the evidence that 7 00:00:42,595 --> 00:00:47,395 Speaker 1: it might yet claim Juliani and our Hitler exploded yesterday 8 00:00:47,635 --> 00:00:51,235 Speaker 1: when the government of Ukraine indicted on charges of treason 9 00:00:51,595 --> 00:00:54,355 Speaker 1: a member of its own parliament, a former member of 10 00:00:54,395 --> 00:00:59,115 Speaker 1: its own parliament, and a former National Deputy prosecutor General, 11 00:00:59,475 --> 00:01:03,555 Speaker 1: accusing them of being part of the Russian intelligence spy 12 00:01:03,675 --> 00:01:09,035 Speaker 1: network in Ukraine inside the previous Ukrainian government, and of 13 00:01:09,115 --> 00:01:12,915 Speaker 1: working with the Russians and Juliani to falsely fabricate the 14 00:01:12,955 --> 00:01:18,275 Speaker 1: Biden Burisma investigation that Trump tried to blackmail President Zelenski into. 15 00:01:19,635 --> 00:01:23,475 Speaker 1: It appears to be too much to hope that Giuliani 16 00:01:23,595 --> 00:01:26,755 Speaker 1: will be charged in Ukraine or that this country would 17 00:01:26,755 --> 00:01:30,435 Speaker 1: extradite him there. On the other hand, until these startling 18 00:01:30,435 --> 00:01:33,675 Speaker 1: indictments were handed down in Kiev, it appeared that Trump's 19 00:01:33,915 --> 00:01:39,035 Speaker 1: entire labyrinthine scheme involving untold, nefarious elements of Russian society 20 00:01:39,275 --> 00:01:43,515 Speaker 1: had been completely buried, but the Trump Russia investigation has 21 00:01:43,515 --> 00:01:46,675 Speaker 1: now thrust an arm out of its grave, like at 22 00:01:46,675 --> 00:01:48,995 Speaker 1: the end of the movie Carry And it seems to 23 00:01:49,035 --> 00:01:52,075 Speaker 1: be looking for Trump, but it is closer to Juliani, 24 00:01:52,275 --> 00:01:56,715 Speaker 1: and it might even be seeking out House Oversight Chairman 25 00:01:56,875 --> 00:02:03,395 Speaker 1: James Comer. The prosecutor indicted for treason is named Konstantin Kulik. 26 00:02:03,955 --> 00:02:07,155 Speaker 1: He wrote the t twenty nineteen memo apparently made up 27 00:02:07,155 --> 00:02:11,235 Speaker 1: out of whole cloth, suggesting that his country should investigate 28 00:02:11,315 --> 00:02:13,835 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden and his work while a member of the 29 00:02:13,875 --> 00:02:18,235 Speaker 1: board of the Ukrainian energy company Barisma. The current member 30 00:02:18,275 --> 00:02:23,795 Speaker 1: of Parliament indicted is Alexander Dubinsky, the ex member Andrea Dirkoch, 31 00:02:24,355 --> 00:02:27,595 Speaker 1: and the latter two were considered so dirty, so in 32 00:02:27,755 --> 00:02:31,955 Speaker 1: league with Russian spy and intelligence operatives that Dirkach was 33 00:02:31,995 --> 00:02:36,595 Speaker 1: sanctioned by the US Treasury Department in September twenty twenty 34 00:02:36,955 --> 00:02:41,435 Speaker 1: during Trump's presidency, two months before the election. With Trump's 35 00:02:41,475 --> 00:02:45,875 Speaker 1: acquiescence or negligence or something, his own government accused this 36 00:02:46,035 --> 00:02:51,355 Speaker 1: guy Dirkach of quote waging a covert influence campaign centered 37 00:02:51,395 --> 00:02:56,595 Speaker 1: on cultivating false and unsubstantiated narratives concerning US officials in 38 00:02:56,715 --> 00:03:01,915 Speaker 1: the upcoming twenty twenty presidential election, spurring corruption investigations in 39 00:03:01,995 --> 00:03:05,475 Speaker 1: both Ukraine and the US designed to call dominate prior 40 00:03:05,515 --> 00:03:10,315 Speaker 1: to election day. Now we know what that was. The 41 00:03:10,435 --> 00:03:14,395 Speaker 1: Trump Treasury Department said this about Dirkatch, and four months later, 42 00:03:14,755 --> 00:03:18,995 Speaker 1: just before Trump left office, his Treasury Department also sanctioned 43 00:03:18,995 --> 00:03:23,075 Speaker 1: that's still serving Ukrainian parliament member Dubinski on the same charges, 44 00:03:23,355 --> 00:03:26,435 Speaker 1: and a year ago next month, Dirkach was indicted by 45 00:03:26,475 --> 00:03:30,595 Speaker 1: the US Justice Department. Now, the reason this could wind 46 00:03:30,675 --> 00:03:35,355 Speaker 1: up touching the Congressman Comber, chairman of Oversight. No man 47 00:03:35,395 --> 00:03:39,235 Speaker 1: more skilled at oversight than Comber, is that the disinformation 48 00:03:39,395 --> 00:03:45,115 Speaker 1: appears to be ongoing. Just last May, Dirkach, the ex 49 00:03:45,235 --> 00:03:51,315 Speaker 1: parliamentarian now charged with treason in Ukraine, leaked recordings of 50 00:03:51,395 --> 00:03:56,395 Speaker 1: conversations between Joe Biden and Ukraine's former president, recordings that 51 00:03:56,635 --> 00:04:02,155 Speaker 1: suddenly and mysteriously appeared after Comer asked if an informant 52 00:04:02,755 --> 00:04:07,395 Speaker 1: had such recordings. The problem for Comer now is that 53 00:04:07,435 --> 00:04:10,475 Speaker 1: the man who had those recordings has just been indicted 54 00:04:10,515 --> 00:04:13,955 Speaker 1: by Ukraine for treason and for being a Russian spy, 55 00:04:14,475 --> 00:04:17,635 Speaker 1: and specifically for being part of the effort to poison 56 00:04:17,675 --> 00:04:23,315 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty American election with misinformation, and little Jamie Comer, 57 00:04:23,635 --> 00:04:27,835 Speaker 1: who is just stupid enough to have done this unintentionally, 58 00:04:28,355 --> 00:04:33,595 Speaker 1: helped to distribute the disinformation that got this guy indicted 59 00:04:33,635 --> 00:04:39,555 Speaker 1: for treason inside this country. The treason indictments do not 60 00:04:39,715 --> 00:04:43,835 Speaker 1: include charges more recently than twenty nineteen, but the wording 61 00:04:43,915 --> 00:04:47,355 Speaker 1: leaves on the table for future action the newer parts 62 00:04:47,395 --> 00:04:50,875 Speaker 1: of what all the evidence suggests is a year's old 63 00:04:50,995 --> 00:04:55,955 Speaker 1: pipeline of Russian attempts to manipulate our country. In the future, 64 00:04:56,835 --> 00:04:59,835 Speaker 1: if there is a future, we will probably find out 65 00:04:59,875 --> 00:05:04,475 Speaker 1: that Trump was guiltier of conspiracies and collusions and infiltration 66 00:05:04,795 --> 00:05:08,475 Speaker 1: with and by Russia than we ever suspected. We just 67 00:05:08,595 --> 00:05:12,395 Speaker 1: didn't know the streetmap well enough. And if you find 68 00:05:12,435 --> 00:05:16,555 Speaker 1: yourself defending the reality that Trump was never cleared of 69 00:05:16,635 --> 00:05:20,955 Speaker 1: coordinating with Russia on the twenty sixteen election, to say 70 00:05:20,995 --> 00:05:23,595 Speaker 1: nothing of the twenty twenty election, or, for that matter, 71 00:05:23,675 --> 00:05:27,995 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four election, just remember that the man 72 00:05:28,075 --> 00:05:33,395 Speaker 1: whose magic act watched me make collusion disappear was Trump's 73 00:05:33,995 --> 00:05:40,915 Speaker 1: hand picked Attorney General William Barr. Trump's ongoing second biggest 74 00:05:40,955 --> 00:05:46,875 Speaker 1: lie that he was quote proved innocent depends entirely on 75 00:05:47,435 --> 00:05:53,555 Speaker 1: Bill Barr and last month, Trump said he quote called 76 00:05:53,635 --> 00:05:59,595 Speaker 1: Bill Barr dumb, weak, slow moving, lethargic, gutless, and lazy, 77 00:06:00,035 --> 00:06:03,915 Speaker 1: a rhino who couldn't do the job. Bill Barr is 78 00:06:04,235 --> 00:06:14,075 Speaker 1: a loser, hey moron. Bill Barr is also Trump's only 79 00:06:14,635 --> 00:06:22,475 Speaker 1: Russian alibi in the trials of our Hitler that are 80 00:06:22,515 --> 00:06:25,475 Speaker 1: already on the twenty twenty three to twenty four season schedule. 81 00:06:25,755 --> 00:06:28,675 Speaker 1: Fannie Willis has dropped a bombshell, and not necessarily a 82 00:06:28,715 --> 00:06:32,755 Speaker 1: positive one at of all things a Washington Post Global 83 00:06:32,795 --> 00:06:36,395 Speaker 1: Women's summit. The Fulton County DA says she is confident 84 00:06:36,435 --> 00:06:39,475 Speaker 1: there will be a trial, and quoting her, I believe 85 00:06:39,555 --> 00:06:42,315 Speaker 1: the trial will take many months, and I don't expect 86 00:06:42,315 --> 00:06:46,435 Speaker 1: that we will conclude until the winter or the very 87 00:06:46,475 --> 00:06:52,475 Speaker 1: early part of twenty twenty five, So the winter of 88 00:06:52,555 --> 00:06:57,475 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four twenty five before the Georgia case ends. 89 00:06:58,835 --> 00:07:03,035 Speaker 1: Take your pick of unprecedented scenarios. The Republican nominee for 90 00:07:03,115 --> 00:07:08,435 Speaker 1: president on trial during debate season. The Republican nominee for 91 00:07:08,435 --> 00:07:12,795 Speaker 1: president on trial during the closing weeks of the presidential campaign, 92 00:07:13,475 --> 00:07:18,155 Speaker 1: the Republican nominee for president on trial on election day, 93 00:07:19,115 --> 00:07:22,475 Speaker 1: and in the Nightmare Construction, the case going to the 94 00:07:22,555 --> 00:07:27,475 Speaker 1: jury when the defendant has already turned into the president 95 00:07:28,115 --> 00:07:32,755 Speaker 1: or dictator elect or of course he could have lost 96 00:07:33,315 --> 00:07:35,115 Speaker 1: and the case would be going to the jury while 97 00:07:35,115 --> 00:07:37,675 Speaker 1: he is insisting to his cult that the election was 98 00:07:37,755 --> 00:07:42,955 Speaker 1: rigged and Atlanta was part of it, and urging them 99 00:07:42,995 --> 00:07:48,275 Speaker 1: to storm the Fulton County Courthouse. There's also more from 100 00:07:48,315 --> 00:07:51,755 Speaker 1: what was a much larger leak of the Atlanta video 101 00:07:51,875 --> 00:07:54,915 Speaker 1: proffers than we knew at this time yesterday. ABC did 102 00:07:54,915 --> 00:07:57,675 Speaker 1: not get all of those leaks. The Washington Post got 103 00:07:57,675 --> 00:08:01,555 Speaker 1: more from two other plea deal defendants, Ken chesbro and 104 00:08:01,595 --> 00:08:05,435 Speaker 1: bail bondsman Scott Hall, and it got more details from 105 00:08:05,435 --> 00:08:09,715 Speaker 1: the suddenly remorseful Jenna Ellis. Twice during the recording of 106 00:08:09,755 --> 00:08:14,035 Speaker 1: the profet, prosecutors stopped Ellis from details that she was recounting. 107 00:08:14,035 --> 00:08:18,235 Speaker 1: Both times, prosecutors explained they were very worried she might 108 00:08:18,315 --> 00:08:22,795 Speaker 1: be violating attorney client privilege, but she said enough to 109 00:08:22,835 --> 00:08:26,315 Speaker 1: suggest that there are two new tendrils to the case 110 00:08:26,435 --> 00:08:29,075 Speaker 1: of the Trump nineteen in Georgia, at least new to 111 00:08:29,195 --> 00:08:33,075 Speaker 1: US civilians. Ellis mentioned one of the Atlanta attorneys who 112 00:08:33,115 --> 00:08:37,115 Speaker 1: handled Trump's attempts to steal the Georgia vote, Preston Halliburton, 113 00:08:37,675 --> 00:08:41,315 Speaker 1: and also a local GOP lawyer in Georgia, Ray Smith. 114 00:08:42,115 --> 00:08:45,475 Speaker 1: She said the two had obtained security footage from the 115 00:08:45,555 --> 00:08:49,075 Speaker 1: ballot tabulation center at the State Farm Arena in Atlanta, 116 00:08:49,475 --> 00:08:54,115 Speaker 1: and on that footage where the county election worker Ruby 117 00:08:54,155 --> 00:08:58,155 Speaker 1: Freeman and her daughter Shay Moss, the victims of the 118 00:08:58,195 --> 00:09:03,635 Speaker 1: Giuliani led smear campaign, the one not directed at President Biden. 119 00:09:04,675 --> 00:09:07,395 Speaker 1: It was just about to explain on the prophet what 120 00:09:07,795 --> 00:09:13,875 Speaker 1: and why and especially how the security footage when prosecutors 121 00:09:14,155 --> 00:09:17,835 Speaker 1: stopped her. Talk about your dead arms bursting out of 122 00:09:17,875 --> 00:09:22,395 Speaker 1: the grave to clutch at Rudy Giuliani. Ellis's other revelation 123 00:09:22,555 --> 00:09:26,035 Speaker 1: stopped in progress raises the possibility that there was another 124 00:09:26,195 --> 00:09:29,835 Speaker 1: conference call about fake electors that we didn't know about 125 00:09:30,355 --> 00:09:34,475 Speaker 1: fake electors from Pennsylvania. She said she was asked to 126 00:09:34,635 --> 00:09:39,275 Speaker 1: join a call on December seventh, twenty twenty, with Boris 127 00:09:39,355 --> 00:09:44,435 Speaker 1: Epstein and Mike Roman to Trump attorneys and Juliani and 128 00:09:44,635 --> 00:09:48,315 Speaker 1: several people who were supposed to be fake electors from Pennsylvania. 129 00:09:48,835 --> 00:09:53,915 Speaker 1: The Pennsylvania fake electors avoided indictment in that state, But 130 00:09:53,995 --> 00:09:58,275 Speaker 1: if there was a conference call with Giuliani and Epstein 131 00:09:58,795 --> 00:10:05,315 Speaker 1: and Ellis and Roman with them, that might just change 132 00:10:05,555 --> 00:10:08,235 Speaker 1: two other brief Trump developments. Before we get to fight, 133 00:10:08,315 --> 00:10:12,555 Speaker 1: Club Congressional Chapter had a story that is simultaneously farcical 134 00:10:12,675 --> 00:10:15,755 Speaker 1: and supportive of the idea that Trump's addiction to violence 135 00:10:15,915 --> 00:10:21,755 Speaker 1: is taking root in American politics. As expected, the impossibly 136 00:10:21,835 --> 00:10:26,995 Speaker 1: named state judge in Michigan, James Robert Redford, has ruled 137 00:10:27,035 --> 00:10:30,275 Speaker 1: on the efforts to disqualify Trump there under the fourteenth Amendment, 138 00:10:30,275 --> 00:10:32,875 Speaker 1: and he did more or less what was done in Minnesota, 139 00:10:33,075 --> 00:10:35,915 Speaker 1: rule that there is clearly nothing in the fourteenth Amendment 140 00:10:35,955 --> 00:10:39,315 Speaker 1: that can keep Trump off the Michigan primary ballot, and 141 00:10:39,395 --> 00:10:43,395 Speaker 1: as to the actual election ballot, that's not his problem. 142 00:10:43,995 --> 00:10:49,875 Speaker 1: Judge James Robert Redford added that the Michigan Secretary of 143 00:10:49,915 --> 00:10:53,755 Speaker 1: State cannot make this decision herself, because the judge thinks 144 00:10:53,755 --> 00:10:57,075 Speaker 1: the fourteenth Amendment is a political matter, which will be 145 00:10:57,115 --> 00:10:59,315 Speaker 1: interesting for him the next time a defendant in his 146 00:10:59,435 --> 00:11:02,435 Speaker 1: court invokes the Fifth Amendment, and he says the judge 147 00:11:02,475 --> 00:11:05,515 Speaker 1: can't hold that against him because it's a political matter. 148 00:11:06,115 --> 00:11:08,475 Speaker 1: And now, of course we are awaiting the ruling on 149 00:11:08,595 --> 00:11:13,555 Speaker 1: the Colorado fourteenth case by Judge John Paul Newman. 150 00:11:15,275 --> 00:11:15,475 Speaker 2: Nine. 151 00:11:15,675 --> 00:11:20,315 Speaker 1: I made that up, and Jack Smith's team had only 152 00:11:20,355 --> 00:11:24,195 Speaker 1: a few thoughts on the DC Appeals Court staying Judge 153 00:11:24,235 --> 00:11:27,955 Speaker 1: Tanya Chutkin's gag order on him. It filed its answer 154 00:11:28,035 --> 00:11:31,515 Speaker 1: as it was supposed to yesterday. The answer is sixty 155 00:11:31,635 --> 00:11:36,035 Speaker 1: seven pages long. The hearing is Monday. There is a 156 00:11:36,075 --> 00:11:38,915 Speaker 1: lot of textbook legal stuff in there, but once again 157 00:11:39,195 --> 00:11:42,555 Speaker 1: there is the undeniable reassurance that Smith and his team 158 00:11:43,155 --> 00:11:48,035 Speaker 1: just ain't kidden around. Not only did they tell the 159 00:11:48,075 --> 00:11:51,555 Speaker 1: three judge panel that our hitler is quote implicitly but 160 00:11:51,755 --> 00:11:56,315 Speaker 1: unmistakably encouraging his supporters to act against the very people 161 00:11:56,355 --> 00:12:01,955 Speaker 1: he targets, unquote, but the Smith associate Cecil Van Devender, 162 00:12:02,515 --> 00:12:06,835 Speaker 1: provided them with three comparison to the prominence, if not 163 00:12:06,955 --> 00:12:10,595 Speaker 1: the exact specifics of the Trump case from the prosecution's 164 00:12:10,595 --> 00:12:16,395 Speaker 1: point of view. Three comparisons the trial of the Oklahoma 165 00:12:16,475 --> 00:12:21,155 Speaker 1: City bomber McVeigh, the trial of the nine to eleven Plotter, 166 00:12:21,275 --> 00:12:30,155 Speaker 1: Musawi and the trial of the Boston Marathon bomber, sarnev McVeigh, Mussawi, 167 00:12:30,835 --> 00:12:36,995 Speaker 1: the Boston Marathon bomber, and Trump. I never thought I 168 00:12:36,995 --> 00:12:40,155 Speaker 1: would say this about the prosecution of Trump. But while 169 00:12:40,195 --> 00:12:44,435 Speaker 1: I applaud the comparison and especially the seriousness with which 170 00:12:44,835 --> 00:12:47,595 Speaker 1: Smith and Van Dervender and the others are taking this, 171 00:12:47,795 --> 00:12:50,795 Speaker 1: it would never have occurred to me in a million 172 00:12:50,875 --> 00:12:56,155 Speaker 1: years to invoke those four names together, And frankly, it 173 00:12:56,395 --> 00:13:07,595 Speaker 1: leaves me breathless and grateful. A boxing triple header at 174 00:13:07,635 --> 00:13:10,875 Speaker 1: by Camerons Square Garden, and it's largely being treated that 175 00:13:10,955 --> 00:13:14,315 Speaker 1: way as a moronic joke, and it does make the 176 00:13:14,355 --> 00:13:17,955 Speaker 1: participants look moronic. And it's not a coincidence that they. 177 00:13:18,795 --> 00:13:22,395 Speaker 1: Congressman Jamie Comer and Tim Burchett and Kevin McCarthy and 178 00:13:22,435 --> 00:13:28,075 Speaker 1: Senator Mark Kwain Mullen are all Republicans. And the most 179 00:13:28,115 --> 00:13:31,475 Speaker 1: common reaction was, I guess men are just too emotional 180 00:13:31,515 --> 00:13:36,755 Speaker 1: to be leaders. If you missed all this, Senator Mullen 181 00:13:36,835 --> 00:13:41,515 Speaker 1: wanted to throw hands with a teamster's boss because the 182 00:13:41,595 --> 00:13:46,555 Speaker 1: teamster's boss wrote mean tweets about him. He wanted to 183 00:13:46,595 --> 00:13:52,195 Speaker 1: fight him on the Senate floor. Congressman Burchett claims Congressman 184 00:13:52,275 --> 00:13:56,315 Speaker 1: McCarthy elbowed him in the kidneys. McCarthy says he knew 185 00:13:56,315 --> 00:13:58,675 Speaker 1: nothing about it. Then audiotape appeared in which it was 186 00:13:58,715 --> 00:14:02,995 Speaker 1: clear the alleged perpetrator McCarthy was aware. It happened as 187 00:14:03,035 --> 00:14:06,075 Speaker 1: it happened. Plus it's sure sound like alleged victim. Burchett 188 00:14:06,115 --> 00:14:10,435 Speaker 1: took the equivalent of a soccer dive, and Comer got 189 00:14:10,555 --> 00:14:14,555 Speaker 1: mad when Congressman Jared Moskowitz noted the similarities between financial 190 00:14:14,595 --> 00:14:18,075 Speaker 1: exchanges between Comer and his brother and President Biden and 191 00:14:18,115 --> 00:14:22,475 Speaker 1: his brother, which Comer is now in like his ninth 192 00:14:22,595 --> 00:14:26,235 Speaker 1: month of trying to turn into a thing. So Comer 193 00:14:26,315 --> 00:14:30,595 Speaker 1: called Moskowitz a smurf, and he called Congressman Dan Goldman 194 00:14:30,755 --> 00:14:34,115 Speaker 1: mister trust fund. And he started cussing, and he had 195 00:14:34,155 --> 00:14:36,915 Speaker 1: to be brought back to this planet by the ranking 196 00:14:36,995 --> 00:14:40,915 Speaker 1: member of the committee, and a mighty roar went up 197 00:14:40,915 --> 00:14:43,235 Speaker 1: from the crowd, and we all had a good time. 198 00:14:43,715 --> 00:14:46,795 Speaker 1: And then the serious side to this became all too apparent. 199 00:14:47,955 --> 00:14:52,195 Speaker 1: Only some of his thugs in the House would actually 200 00:14:52,275 --> 00:14:58,635 Speaker 1: start thugging. While Trump's lawyers and his defenders continue the 201 00:14:58,755 --> 00:15:02,475 Speaker 1: charade that our Hitler is not trying to normalize political 202 00:15:02,555 --> 00:15:06,395 Speaker 1: violence as an acceptable component of American society, that he's 203 00:15:06,435 --> 00:15:09,715 Speaker 1: not trying to get somebody to kill Jack Smith, that 204 00:15:09,795 --> 00:15:13,315 Speaker 1: he's not trying to get somebody to kill any Democrat 205 00:15:13,515 --> 00:15:18,235 Speaker 1: or any liberal. Trump can process only two things, money 206 00:15:18,315 --> 00:15:21,795 Speaker 1: and violence. Everything else that he speaks about is just 207 00:15:21,915 --> 00:15:27,195 Speaker 1: him doing a very practiced impression of human emotions and 208 00:15:27,355 --> 00:15:31,715 Speaker 1: human interactions. So from the beginning, he has talked about 209 00:15:32,115 --> 00:15:36,635 Speaker 1: beating up Heckler's and shooting people on Fifth Avenue and 210 00:15:36,795 --> 00:15:39,915 Speaker 1: inspiring violent attempts to overthrow the government, and of course 211 00:15:40,115 --> 00:15:42,755 Speaker 1: invoking the Insurrection Act so he can get the army 212 00:15:42,955 --> 00:15:48,315 Speaker 1: to shoot civilian protesters. And before you wonder, this is 213 00:15:48,395 --> 00:15:53,675 Speaker 1: to cliched pacifist liberals tut tutting the big bad compulsively 214 00:15:53,915 --> 00:15:59,155 Speaker 1: violent fascists. Maybe we're doing too much here, Huh Nope. 215 00:15:59,195 --> 00:16:02,275 Speaker 1: Senator Mark wain Mullen himself went right from threatening a 216 00:16:02,475 --> 00:16:06,715 Speaker 1: union boss with violence itself a kind of short sighted 217 00:16:06,715 --> 00:16:10,995 Speaker 1: strategic decision according to history, went right from that on 218 00:16:11,195 --> 00:16:14,795 Speaker 1: to Fox News, where he insisted, quote this isn't anything 219 00:16:14,915 --> 00:16:20,155 Speaker 1: new because Andrew Jackson had duels and quote there's been 220 00:16:20,355 --> 00:16:23,755 Speaker 1: kinings before in the Senate too. Maybe we should bring 221 00:16:23,995 --> 00:16:27,075 Speaker 1: some of that back, you know, keep people from thinking 222 00:16:27,115 --> 00:16:30,995 Speaker 1: they're so tough, because if we have some type of respect, 223 00:16:31,515 --> 00:16:33,915 Speaker 1: because we know there's going to be consequences for your 224 00:16:33,955 --> 00:16:41,035 Speaker 1: actions un quote. And then on Newsmax, Mullen went somehow 225 00:16:41,275 --> 00:16:44,355 Speaker 1: even more pro political violence. 226 00:16:44,555 --> 00:16:47,515 Speaker 3: Are there any actual Senate rules that have two consenting 227 00:16:47,555 --> 00:16:49,155 Speaker 3: adults want to do it out? I mean, we had 228 00:16:49,155 --> 00:16:51,395 Speaker 3: a United States Congress and pull a tooth on the 229 00:16:51,395 --> 00:16:53,715 Speaker 3: House floor once. There's no rules about that. Couldn't you 230 00:16:53,715 --> 00:16:56,355 Speaker 3: guys go bare knuckle if you wanted to just bit. 231 00:16:56,275 --> 00:16:58,475 Speaker 4: We looked into the rules and you know you used 232 00:16:58,475 --> 00:17:00,635 Speaker 4: to build a cane. You got to remember President Andrew 233 00:17:00,715 --> 00:17:04,195 Speaker 4: Jackson challenged nine guys to duel and won nine times. 234 00:17:04,275 --> 00:17:05,555 Speaker 1: And why house dinner one. 235 00:17:05,395 --> 00:17:06,875 Speaker 4: Time that guy with mouth him at the end of 236 00:17:06,875 --> 00:17:10,075 Speaker 4: the table, Jackson jumped up, literally ran across the table 237 00:17:10,355 --> 00:17:12,995 Speaker 4: and knocked the guy out. And so at the end 238 00:17:12,995 --> 00:17:15,355 Speaker 4: of the day, there is presence for it if that's 239 00:17:15,395 --> 00:17:16,475 Speaker 4: what someone wants to do. 240 00:17:17,035 --> 00:17:23,275 Speaker 1: A Mark Wain, the word is precedence, not presence genius, 241 00:17:23,635 --> 00:17:28,915 Speaker 1: and b those aren't precedents and C. If you Republicans 242 00:17:28,955 --> 00:17:34,355 Speaker 1: want to start duels among yourselves, Well, that's that's one solution. 243 00:17:35,635 --> 00:17:38,955 Speaker 1: Apart from the projection here by Mark k Wain, two 244 00:17:39,035 --> 00:17:43,235 Speaker 1: important things are also clear. He is unmistakably advocating for 245 00:17:43,315 --> 00:17:48,155 Speaker 1: the resumption of fistfights, duels, and assaults with deadly weapons 246 00:17:48,195 --> 00:17:51,875 Speaker 1: in the House and in the Senate, exactly the Trump idea, 247 00:17:52,235 --> 00:17:56,235 Speaker 1: maybe we should just bring back violence. I'll note in 248 00:17:56,275 --> 00:17:59,035 Speaker 1: passing that if we simply resolved everything that goes to 249 00:17:59,115 --> 00:18:01,795 Speaker 1: the House or Senate by violence, we wouldn't need the 250 00:18:01,835 --> 00:18:06,035 Speaker 1: House or the Senate, would we. But secondly, the historical 251 00:18:06,155 --> 00:18:10,955 Speaker 1: illiteracy of this moron Mullen is astonishing. When he says 252 00:18:11,355 --> 00:18:15,555 Speaker 1: there's been canings before in the Senate too, he is 253 00:18:15,635 --> 00:18:18,835 Speaker 1: evidently unaware that he is referring to May twenty second, 254 00:18:18,875 --> 00:18:23,315 Speaker 1: eighteen fifty six, when the South Carolina Congressman Preston Brooks 255 00:18:23,595 --> 00:18:26,435 Speaker 1: went into the Senate, went to the desk of Senator 256 00:18:26,515 --> 00:18:31,875 Speaker 1: Charles Sumner Massachusetts, abused Sumner verbally, and as Senator Sumner 257 00:18:31,955 --> 00:18:35,755 Speaker 1: was only beginning to stand up the cowardly Brooks suddenly 258 00:18:35,795 --> 00:18:38,995 Speaker 1: began to beat him on the head with a gold 259 00:18:39,075 --> 00:18:44,555 Speaker 1: headed cane. After a dozen blows. Sumner began to collapse 260 00:18:44,635 --> 00:18:48,875 Speaker 1: towards the Senate floor. Brooks caught him, held him up, 261 00:18:49,155 --> 00:18:52,075 Speaker 1: and continued to beat him with the cane, while a 262 00:18:52,155 --> 00:18:56,795 Speaker 1: second congressman stopped others who tried to rescue Senator Sumner. 263 00:18:58,235 --> 00:19:03,115 Speaker 1: I am hoping Senator Mullen is just ignorant here, because 264 00:19:03,115 --> 00:19:06,795 Speaker 1: the other option is he knows the story of Congressman 265 00:19:06,835 --> 00:19:11,315 Speaker 1: Brooks and Senator Sumner and why Brooks attacked him, and 266 00:19:11,355 --> 00:19:13,915 Speaker 1: he knows that the caning they used to have in 267 00:19:13,955 --> 00:19:15,835 Speaker 1: the Senate, and maybe we should bring some of that 268 00:19:15,995 --> 00:19:21,115 Speaker 1: back was made by Congressman Brooks in defense of slavery. 269 00:19:22,195 --> 00:19:27,715 Speaker 1: Associate yourself with that cause, asshole. The caning of Senator 270 00:19:27,755 --> 00:19:30,955 Speaker 1: Sumner was perhaps the low point for any dignity in 271 00:19:30,995 --> 00:19:35,515 Speaker 1: American politics until we elected Trump. That is, it also 272 00:19:35,755 --> 00:19:39,595 Speaker 1: changed history. That Sumner was nearly beaten to death in 273 00:19:39,715 --> 00:19:43,835 Speaker 1: the Senate at his own desk because he opposed slavery 274 00:19:44,115 --> 00:19:48,955 Speaker 1: erased any remaining sense among anti slavery men of all 275 00:19:48,995 --> 00:19:52,515 Speaker 1: parties and all states that they might still resolve that 276 00:19:52,675 --> 00:19:58,155 Speaker 1: issue peaceably. Sumner's speech that had so enraged Brooks was 277 00:19:58,235 --> 00:20:02,715 Speaker 1: printed and a million copies were distributed in a nation 278 00:20:02,875 --> 00:20:08,195 Speaker 1: of just thirty millionar residents. It wasn't as this boorish 279 00:20:08,275 --> 00:20:12,075 Speaker 1: idiot Senator Mullen thinks some kind of method to quote 280 00:20:12,435 --> 00:20:16,915 Speaker 1: keep people from thinking they're so tough. It hastened the 281 00:20:16,955 --> 00:20:22,075 Speaker 1: Civil War moron, and on a personal level, Senator Sumner 282 00:20:22,115 --> 00:20:24,835 Speaker 1: was unable to fully resume his duties for two years, 283 00:20:25,195 --> 00:20:29,675 Speaker 1: by which time Congressman Brooks was dead. He had died 284 00:20:29,715 --> 00:20:36,715 Speaker 1: of a tracheal infection that essentially strangled him slowly. But sure, 285 00:20:36,955 --> 00:20:40,835 Speaker 1: Mark Qwain, let's have more of this on the Senate floor, 286 00:20:41,275 --> 00:20:45,035 Speaker 1: because you can't stand up to mean tweets. 287 00:20:45,235 --> 00:20:47,795 Speaker 4: After you left here, you got pretty excited about the keyboard. 288 00:20:48,035 --> 00:20:54,995 Speaker 4: In fact, you tweeted at me one, two, three, four 289 00:20:56,235 --> 00:20:58,595 Speaker 4: five times. And let me read what the last one said, 290 00:20:59,275 --> 00:21:03,875 Speaker 4: said greedy ceo who pretends like he's self made. 291 00:21:04,755 --> 00:21:05,715 Speaker 1: Sorry, I wish you was. 292 00:21:05,635 --> 00:21:06,915 Speaker 4: In the truck with me when I was building my 293 00:21:06,915 --> 00:21:10,955 Speaker 4: plumbing company myself and my wife was running the office, 294 00:21:11,435 --> 00:21:14,675 Speaker 4: because I should remember working pretty hard in long hours, 295 00:21:15,595 --> 00:21:19,555 Speaker 4: which ends like he's self made. What a clown fraud 296 00:21:20,155 --> 00:21:25,035 Speaker 4: always has been, always will be quick the tough guy 297 00:21:25,155 --> 00:21:27,875 Speaker 4: act in the Senate hearings. You know where to find 298 00:21:27,915 --> 00:21:33,595 Speaker 4: me any place, anytime, cowboy. Sorry, this is a time. 299 00:21:33,635 --> 00:21:35,875 Speaker 4: This is a place. If you want to run your mouth, 300 00:21:36,155 --> 00:21:38,075 Speaker 4: we can be too consenting adults. So we can finish 301 00:21:38,155 --> 00:21:38,475 Speaker 4: it here. 302 00:21:38,715 --> 00:21:40,795 Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine, perfect, you want to do it now. 303 00:21:40,915 --> 00:21:41,875 Speaker 2: I'd love to do it right now. 304 00:21:41,875 --> 00:21:42,755 Speaker 4: We'll stand your butt up. 305 00:21:42,795 --> 00:21:44,155 Speaker 2: Then you stand your butt up. 306 00:21:44,395 --> 00:21:49,235 Speaker 1: Hold stop it? So oh no, sit down out. 307 00:21:49,275 --> 00:21:52,795 Speaker 4: Okay you know you're a United States at Okay, I'll 308 00:21:52,795 --> 00:21:53,915 Speaker 4: sit down please, all right? 309 00:21:54,035 --> 00:22:00,155 Speaker 1: If I responded, hold it? If we can't, no, I'm sorry, 310 00:22:00,195 --> 00:22:02,235 Speaker 1: this is hold it. He said, you'll have your time. 311 00:22:02,795 --> 00:22:03,475 Speaker 5: Can I respond? 312 00:22:03,475 --> 00:22:06,675 Speaker 1: Oh no, you can't. Yes, that's the voice of reason. 313 00:22:06,795 --> 00:22:12,275 Speaker 1: Chairman Bernie Sanders, reminding both Teamster's president Sean O'Brien and 314 00:22:12,395 --> 00:22:14,515 Speaker 1: Senator Mark qwain mullen. 315 00:22:15,515 --> 00:22:22,795 Speaker 5: You sell your guy. I'm taking it to the bi gentlemen. 316 00:22:22,875 --> 00:22:25,435 Speaker 1: You can't fight in here. This is the war room. 317 00:22:26,115 --> 00:22:29,075 Speaker 1: Don't tell anybody where I got that over in the house. 318 00:22:29,115 --> 00:22:32,475 Speaker 1: There was contact, but to collapse back into my sports days, 319 00:22:32,475 --> 00:22:35,715 Speaker 1: there reigns the open question, was it no harm, no foul. 320 00:22:36,875 --> 00:22:39,835 Speaker 1: I'll play this out of sequence. The first clip will 321 00:22:39,875 --> 00:22:44,115 Speaker 1: be ex speaker Kevin McCarthy denying the charge that he 322 00:22:44,155 --> 00:22:48,595 Speaker 1: had elbowed Congressman Tim Burchett in the kidney as they 323 00:22:48,675 --> 00:22:52,835 Speaker 1: passed in a house hallway, and McCarthy denying that he 324 00:22:52,915 --> 00:22:56,555 Speaker 1: even knew that Burchette was claiming that that had happened. 325 00:22:56,715 --> 00:22:58,675 Speaker 6: I did not run and hit the guy, did not 326 00:22:58,795 --> 00:23:01,035 Speaker 6: kidney fun to him. I did not shoot anything like that. 327 00:23:02,995 --> 00:23:04,235 Speaker 1: We're walking through you. 328 00:23:04,235 --> 00:23:06,235 Speaker 6: You were a see five right you guys line up 329 00:23:06,275 --> 00:23:09,595 Speaker 6: along the way there it was Bruce Western. Am I 330 00:23:09,675 --> 00:23:12,075 Speaker 6: walking out. He must spending interviewing somebody. I didn't know 331 00:23:12,235 --> 00:23:13,755 Speaker 6: him or something. I guess I almost did as I 332 00:23:13,835 --> 00:23:18,035 Speaker 6: walked by. I didn't punch anybody. Yeah, well he I 333 00:23:18,115 --> 00:23:20,155 Speaker 6: guess it happened because when I was walking back further. 334 00:23:20,675 --> 00:23:22,755 Speaker 6: I don't say if somebody was interviewing, they are talking 335 00:23:22,795 --> 00:23:25,075 Speaker 6: to me and he comes running up like why. 336 00:23:25,075 --> 00:23:26,795 Speaker 1: Why did you hit me? 337 00:23:26,875 --> 00:23:28,075 Speaker 2: Or something like. Guy said, I don't know what you're 338 00:23:28,075 --> 00:23:28,635 Speaker 2: talking about it. 339 00:23:28,715 --> 00:23:30,115 Speaker 6: I didn't even know something transpired. 340 00:23:30,235 --> 00:23:32,235 Speaker 3: But the reporter's witness I said, it looked like you. 341 00:23:32,355 --> 00:23:34,035 Speaker 5: There was plenty of room for you to walk and 342 00:23:34,075 --> 00:23:35,355 Speaker 5: did you intentionally hit him? 343 00:23:35,555 --> 00:23:38,315 Speaker 6: There is okay, not a place show me a reporter 344 00:23:38,355 --> 00:23:42,555 Speaker 6: who saw that ask We asked Bruce westernban, No, I 345 00:23:42,595 --> 00:23:45,115 Speaker 6: did not go up. If I if I would hit somebody, 346 00:23:45,115 --> 00:23:45,715 Speaker 6: they would. 347 00:23:45,475 --> 00:23:46,035 Speaker 2: Know I hit him. 348 00:23:46,595 --> 00:23:51,115 Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like very much, McCarthy said in there was true. 349 00:23:51,635 --> 00:23:55,155 Speaker 1: Congressman Ken Buck later said McCarthy and lying were quote 350 00:23:55,675 --> 00:23:59,675 Speaker 1: like peanut butter and jelly, and boy is that imagery 351 00:23:59,675 --> 00:24:03,395 Speaker 1: assign of how far the house has fallen. Former Congressman 352 00:24:03,435 --> 00:24:08,035 Speaker 1: Adam Kinzinger said McCarthy had deliberately shouldered him twice on 353 00:24:08,155 --> 00:24:13,035 Speaker 1: Capitol grounds. On the other hand, Congressman Burchette later said 354 00:24:13,115 --> 00:24:16,755 Speaker 1: McCarthy hid him from behind with a quote clean shot 355 00:24:16,995 --> 00:24:21,075 Speaker 1: in the kidneys, and it was a sucker punch. An 356 00:24:21,155 --> 00:24:25,755 Speaker 1: hours later he was still in pain. Oh my aching kidneys. 357 00:24:27,075 --> 00:24:32,355 Speaker 1: Then we got to hear the freika, as captured on 358 00:24:32,475 --> 00:24:37,755 Speaker 1: audio by NPR reporter Claudia Grisales. And it's odd, but listen, 359 00:24:37,955 --> 00:24:42,515 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like Burchette was suffering a lot, were 360 00:24:42,515 --> 00:24:45,555 Speaker 1: at all, or even a little bit. In fact, at 361 00:24:45,555 --> 00:24:48,475 Speaker 1: first he seems to be dismissing this as a friendly 362 00:24:48,595 --> 00:25:02,195 Speaker 1: joke at first. 363 00:24:50,795 --> 00:24:50,875 Speaker 2: So. 364 00:24:56,315 --> 00:24:58,835 Speaker 5: Sorry, Kevin didn't mean to elba my elbow me in 365 00:24:58,835 --> 00:25:08,035 Speaker 5: the back, Kevin, Bikenvin, you got any guts now. 366 00:25:23,475 --> 00:25:26,755 Speaker 1: I got to know you. 367 00:25:27,515 --> 00:25:31,075 Speaker 4: So they sit there and the reporter said it right there, Chicken, 368 00:25:32,875 --> 00:25:34,355 Speaker 4: you're you're pathetic man. 369 00:25:34,675 --> 00:25:35,795 Speaker 1: They are so pathetic. 370 00:25:41,235 --> 00:25:41,915 Speaker 7: What a jerk. 371 00:25:43,395 --> 00:25:52,755 Speaker 1: You need security gabin anyway, and then there was Comber 372 00:25:52,875 --> 00:25:57,035 Speaker 1: versus Jared Moskowitz with a cameo by Dan Golden as 373 00:25:57,115 --> 00:26:00,355 Speaker 1: Congressman Moskowitz texted me about Comber, I think he needs 374 00:26:00,395 --> 00:26:03,595 Speaker 1: a mental health day, as I replied, I think he 375 00:26:03,675 --> 00:26:04,835 Speaker 1: needs a mental health. 376 00:26:05,155 --> 00:26:07,155 Speaker 2: I'm happy to yield you some of my time today, 377 00:26:07,155 --> 00:26:09,275 Speaker 2: mister Chairman, because I think you owe it to the 378 00:26:09,315 --> 00:26:12,915 Speaker 2: American people to explain why you've gone on Fox News 379 00:26:13,315 --> 00:26:16,195 Speaker 2: and told people that while the president was out of office, 380 00:26:16,275 --> 00:26:18,635 Speaker 2: he had a loan with his brother and in a 381 00:26:18,635 --> 00:26:21,195 Speaker 2: way they were evading taxes. It has come out in 382 00:26:21,235 --> 00:26:23,715 Speaker 2: the public that you also do business with your brother 383 00:26:23,795 --> 00:26:26,715 Speaker 2: with potential loans, and so since you have framed that 384 00:26:26,755 --> 00:26:29,275 Speaker 2: and manipulated that with the American people, that Joe Biden 385 00:26:29,315 --> 00:26:31,475 Speaker 2: did something wrong when he wasn't in office, I just 386 00:26:31,475 --> 00:26:32,955 Speaker 2: would like to know if you would like to use 387 00:26:32,995 --> 00:26:33,475 Speaker 2: some of my time. 388 00:26:33,635 --> 00:26:38,835 Speaker 7: I would love I would love it. Okay, you retweeted 389 00:26:38,875 --> 00:26:43,355 Speaker 7: that story completely false. I've never loaned my brother one penny. 390 00:26:43,955 --> 00:26:47,835 Speaker 7: My father, who was a dentist, had some farmland. He 391 00:26:47,915 --> 00:26:53,635 Speaker 7: died and my brother couldn't afford He wanted to sell it, 392 00:26:53,715 --> 00:26:55,835 Speaker 7: but he wanted to keep it in the family, so 393 00:26:55,915 --> 00:26:59,755 Speaker 7: I bought it from my brother. That story that you tweeted, 394 00:26:59,795 --> 00:27:01,435 Speaker 7: I also said I had a shell company. 395 00:27:01,995 --> 00:27:03,395 Speaker 1: That is bullshit. 396 00:27:03,835 --> 00:27:06,875 Speaker 7: But you and go oldman who is mister trust fund 397 00:27:07,515 --> 00:27:11,275 Speaker 7: continue to try to proclaiming, No, I'm not gonna give 398 00:27:11,315 --> 00:27:11,835 Speaker 7: you your time. 399 00:27:11,875 --> 00:27:13,035 Speaker 1: Bay, we can't stop the clock. 400 00:27:14,155 --> 00:27:16,995 Speaker 7: You all continue to You look like a smurf here 401 00:27:17,075 --> 00:27:18,755 Speaker 7: just going around and all this stuff. 402 00:27:18,795 --> 00:27:22,835 Speaker 2: Now, look, mister chairman, you have hold on We're not 403 00:27:22,875 --> 00:27:23,315 Speaker 2: on time. 404 00:27:23,515 --> 00:27:25,555 Speaker 1: You disinformation, you have. 405 00:27:25,475 --> 00:27:28,835 Speaker 2: Gone on him, you had the president did something, you 406 00:27:28,835 --> 00:27:32,795 Speaker 2: you're doing stuff, and then your brother the same questions. 407 00:27:32,675 --> 00:27:35,835 Speaker 1: Why why investigate? 408 00:27:35,955 --> 00:27:38,555 Speaker 2: Why believe there's a different rule for the president, there's 409 00:27:38,555 --> 00:27:41,515 Speaker 2: a different any Why didn't they believe what you're saying, 410 00:27:41,555 --> 00:27:44,555 Speaker 2: mister chairman. Why you go on Fox News and say 411 00:27:44,995 --> 00:27:48,435 Speaker 2: loan you goose a taxes? We don't know that's what 412 00:27:48,475 --> 00:27:50,475 Speaker 2: you're doing or not. We don't know. We have no 413 00:27:50,515 --> 00:27:52,475 Speaker 2: idea what we're supposed to take your word for it. 414 00:27:52,635 --> 00:27:53,115 Speaker 2: But when the. 415 00:27:53,075 --> 00:27:55,235 Speaker 1: Press you've already been proven a liar. 416 00:27:55,355 --> 00:27:58,435 Speaker 7: Mister Witz, what's that You've already been proven a liar? 417 00:27:58,595 --> 00:27:59,675 Speaker 1: Who's proven me a liar? 418 00:27:59,795 --> 00:27:59,835 Speaker 2: You? 419 00:28:00,435 --> 00:28:03,595 Speaker 1: Yes, you can go to my hometown. 420 00:28:03,795 --> 00:28:07,315 Speaker 7: There's a camera crew there today and opposition research crew 421 00:28:07,395 --> 00:28:08,075 Speaker 7: there today. 422 00:28:08,795 --> 00:28:09,035 Speaker 1: Chairman. 423 00:28:09,075 --> 00:28:11,835 Speaker 2: It seems it seems to have gotten under your skin. 424 00:28:12,115 --> 00:28:13,875 Speaker 1: Hey for your ticket. I think the. 425 00:28:13,795 --> 00:28:16,115 Speaker 2: American people have lots of questions, mister Chairman, and perhaps 426 00:28:16,115 --> 00:28:17,475 Speaker 2: you should sit maybe for a deposition. 427 00:28:17,555 --> 00:28:19,875 Speaker 1: I would be I will be happy. I will sit with. 428 00:28:19,955 --> 00:28:22,475 Speaker 7: Hunter Biden and Jim Biden and we can go over 429 00:28:22,515 --> 00:28:23,235 Speaker 7: our LLCU. 430 00:28:23,635 --> 00:28:24,195 Speaker 2: That'll be great. 431 00:28:24,355 --> 00:28:26,555 Speaker 1: I'll make sure happy. 432 00:28:27,835 --> 00:28:30,475 Speaker 5: At a table, and I make a point of order 433 00:28:31,275 --> 00:28:32,915 Speaker 5: that we should return to regular order. 434 00:28:33,275 --> 00:28:35,955 Speaker 1: I also suggested to Congress and Moscowitz that the next 435 00:28:35,955 --> 00:28:39,675 Speaker 1: time Chairman Comber loses his spit like that, Moscowitz should 436 00:28:39,675 --> 00:28:42,995 Speaker 1: ask him about his college girlfriend and her insistence that 437 00:28:43,075 --> 00:28:47,475 Speaker 1: he beat her up. Because no, Senator Mullen, the duels 438 00:28:47,755 --> 00:28:52,635 Speaker 1: and the Canings, maybe we shouldn't bring them back. But 439 00:28:52,915 --> 00:28:55,915 Speaker 1: maybe if you are in favor of them, or like 440 00:28:56,635 --> 00:29:01,115 Speaker 1: McCarthy and Burchard and Comber, you're ready to resort to them, 441 00:29:01,635 --> 00:29:04,435 Speaker 1: maybe we need to get you out of any position 442 00:29:04,515 --> 00:29:10,435 Speaker 1: of responsibility immediately, because those things are the furthest things 443 00:29:10,715 --> 00:29:21,995 Speaker 1: from being responsible. Also of interest here, Jamie Diamond, billionaire 444 00:29:22,035 --> 00:29:24,795 Speaker 1: CEO of JP Morgan Chase, has figured out who the 445 00:29:24,835 --> 00:29:29,555 Speaker 1: next president should be. Jamie has spoken, no, it's not 446 00:29:29,715 --> 00:29:34,995 Speaker 1: Jamie Diamond, because compared to who he picked president, Jamie 447 00:29:35,075 --> 00:29:40,035 Speaker 1: Diamond would be a good idea. That's next. This is countdown. 448 00:29:41,635 --> 00:30:06,315 Speaker 1: This is countdown with Keith old Woman still ahead of 449 00:30:06,355 --> 00:30:09,595 Speaker 1: us on countdown. I was just explaining this defining moment 450 00:30:09,755 --> 00:30:13,195 Speaker 1: of my younger life the other day. It is the 451 00:30:13,315 --> 00:30:16,955 Speaker 1: answer to the question why should you have listened when 452 00:30:16,995 --> 00:30:19,675 Speaker 1: Mom used to say, never run for a train. There 453 00:30:19,675 --> 00:30:23,715 Speaker 1: will always be another one. It happened only forty three 454 00:30:23,795 --> 00:30:26,275 Speaker 1: years and three months ago. So I'll be getting over 455 00:30:26,315 --> 00:30:30,835 Speaker 1: it any day now. Actually no, probably not. I won't 456 00:30:30,875 --> 00:30:33,155 Speaker 1: be getting over it any day now. Things I promised 457 00:30:33,155 --> 00:30:35,435 Speaker 1: not to tell coming up first time for the daily 458 00:30:35,475 --> 00:30:37,875 Speaker 1: roundup of the miss Grants, morons and Dunning Kruger effects 459 00:30:37,875 --> 00:30:42,475 Speaker 1: specimens who constitute today's worse persons in the world. Sonny 460 00:30:43,195 --> 00:30:47,115 Speaker 1: Worse Carlos Mendoza, introduced by the New York Mets yesterday 461 00:30:47,155 --> 00:30:50,915 Speaker 1: as their latest newest manager by their latest newest executive. 462 00:30:51,675 --> 00:30:54,115 Speaker 1: I have nothing against him. I have to confess that 463 00:30:54,195 --> 00:30:56,395 Speaker 1: until last week I had no idea who he was. 464 00:30:57,035 --> 00:30:59,715 Speaker 1: He was a coach for the New York Yankees. There 465 00:30:59,715 --> 00:31:03,755 Speaker 1: are like four hundred coaches in baseball. Now there used 466 00:31:03,755 --> 00:31:07,515 Speaker 1: to be ninety six. I've lost track. I actually used 467 00:31:07,555 --> 00:31:10,595 Speaker 1: to be the expert on the history of coaches in baseball. 468 00:31:10,675 --> 00:31:13,475 Speaker 1: I had a book published researching the history of the 469 00:31:13,515 --> 00:31:17,195 Speaker 1: coaches in baseball. Anyway, new Mets managers tend to be 470 00:31:18,715 --> 00:31:22,235 Speaker 1: star crossed. Sometimes it's because the Mets and their new 471 00:31:22,235 --> 00:31:25,515 Speaker 1: managers are too conscious of the Crosstown Yankees, too worried 472 00:31:25,515 --> 00:31:29,395 Speaker 1: about them and their fans. Sometimes it's other reasons. Mickey 473 00:31:29,435 --> 00:31:31,955 Speaker 1: Callaway knew in twenty eighteen turned out to be a 474 00:31:32,035 --> 00:31:36,955 Speaker 1: serial sexual harasser. Carlos Beltron, hired away from the Yankees 475 00:31:36,995 --> 00:31:40,035 Speaker 1: to succeed him, did not make it to opening day 476 00:31:40,075 --> 00:31:44,715 Speaker 1: before getting fired. Lewis Rojas, who succeeded Beltron, made almost 477 00:31:44,715 --> 00:31:47,475 Speaker 1: no impression at all. Then there was Buck Showalter who 478 00:31:47,555 --> 00:31:50,915 Speaker 1: replaced Rojas, and Buck Showalter used to be the manager 479 00:31:50,955 --> 00:31:54,715 Speaker 1: of the Yankees. Now Mendoza has continued the tradition. He 480 00:31:54,755 --> 00:31:57,715 Speaker 1: has begun his Mets career by explaining he will be 481 00:31:57,795 --> 00:32:02,515 Speaker 1: wearing uniform number twenty eight with the Mets because, quote, 482 00:32:02,835 --> 00:32:05,515 Speaker 1: I'll lead the Mets to a World champlampionship before the 483 00:32:05,595 --> 00:32:10,075 Speaker 1: Yankees get their twenty eighth ring. Possibly that's a funny 484 00:32:10,075 --> 00:32:12,435 Speaker 1: line on some other day other than the day you 485 00:32:12,555 --> 00:32:15,195 Speaker 1: start on the job. But why are you feeding into 486 00:32:15,195 --> 00:32:19,155 Speaker 1: this mindset that it's about who does better, the underachieving 487 00:32:19,235 --> 00:32:25,435 Speaker 1: Mets or the even more underachieving Yankees. Besides which, because 488 00:32:25,475 --> 00:32:27,435 Speaker 1: I'll lead the Mets to a world championship before the 489 00:32:27,515 --> 00:32:30,275 Speaker 1: Yankees get their twenty eighth ring. The way these two 490 00:32:30,275 --> 00:32:32,475 Speaker 1: teams are going, that could easily still mean it will 491 00:32:32,475 --> 00:32:36,875 Speaker 1: not happen before the year twenty fifty nine. Worser Russell 492 00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:42,395 Speaker 1: brand yep more accusations, two more, just at the BBC, 493 00:32:43,035 --> 00:32:45,635 Speaker 1: which makes five of them there the BBC, which he 494 00:32:45,755 --> 00:32:50,315 Speaker 1: left fifteen years ago. Brand insists it was always consensual. 495 00:32:50,955 --> 00:32:54,635 Speaker 1: I once testified against somebody in a sexual harassment scandal 496 00:32:54,675 --> 00:32:57,795 Speaker 1: at one of my employers, and an expert in the field, 497 00:32:57,795 --> 00:33:00,755 Speaker 1: including the field of sexual assault, said that the reason 498 00:33:00,795 --> 00:33:04,195 Speaker 1: the defense always is it was consensual is that the 499 00:33:04,195 --> 00:33:08,995 Speaker 1: perfects believe or convince themselves that the victim's lack of 500 00:33:09,075 --> 00:33:13,195 Speaker 1: consent is its own form of consent. And after all, 501 00:33:13,275 --> 00:33:18,035 Speaker 1: they also think, well, I consented, because they're sexually violent 502 00:33:18,075 --> 00:33:22,755 Speaker 1: criminals who should be in prison. But the worst. Jamie Diamond, 503 00:33:23,275 --> 00:33:27,275 Speaker 1: the CEO of JP Morgan Chase Axios, reports that he 504 00:33:27,315 --> 00:33:31,115 Speaker 1: has held private conversations by phone with a presidential candidate 505 00:33:31,115 --> 00:33:34,395 Speaker 1: about the global economy because he thinks this one presidential 506 00:33:34,395 --> 00:33:38,235 Speaker 1: candidate could quote bring the country together, and he thinks 507 00:33:38,275 --> 00:33:41,875 Speaker 1: that this one candidate understands the role how business and 508 00:33:41,955 --> 00:33:46,635 Speaker 1: government should work together to rule people. The candidate Jamie 509 00:33:46,715 --> 00:33:52,275 Speaker 1: Diamond picks is Nicki Haley. Nicki Haley, who, as I 510 00:33:52,275 --> 00:33:55,955 Speaker 1: have noted before, is one of the least realistic people 511 00:33:56,235 --> 00:34:00,155 Speaker 1: I have ever encountered. In the way it gets worse, 512 00:34:00,395 --> 00:34:02,875 Speaker 1: Diamond thinks Haley would make a great candidate and a 513 00:34:02,875 --> 00:34:06,475 Speaker 1: great president if only she could get past Trump for 514 00:34:06,515 --> 00:34:10,835 Speaker 1: the Republican nomination. By the same token, Jamie Diamond could 515 00:34:10,875 --> 00:34:13,475 Speaker 1: fly to the moon if he had an Atlas five 516 00:34:13,595 --> 00:34:18,995 Speaker 1: rocket instead of an ass Jamie Diamond. Forbes estimates his 517 00:34:19,115 --> 00:34:22,675 Speaker 1: personal worth at one billion, six hundred million dollars, which 518 00:34:22,675 --> 00:34:25,235 Speaker 1: reminds me you ever get the feeling that everybody with 519 00:34:25,355 --> 00:34:31,475 Speaker 1: real money got it entirely by accident? Two days, worst 520 00:34:31,795 --> 00:34:50,075 Speaker 1: person and the world. So finally to our number one 521 00:34:50,115 --> 00:34:53,235 Speaker 1: story on the countdown on my favorite topic, Me and 522 00:34:53,355 --> 00:34:56,675 Speaker 1: things I promised not to tell, although truth be told, 523 00:34:56,715 --> 00:34:59,715 Speaker 1: I have been telling this story now for forty two years. 524 00:35:00,915 --> 00:35:05,395 Speaker 1: On Sunday, the twenty fourth of August nineteen eighty, I 525 00:35:05,515 --> 00:35:08,835 Speaker 1: learned what Mom meant when she had said, never run 526 00:35:08,875 --> 00:35:11,875 Speaker 1: for a train, There'll always be another one. Because I 527 00:35:11,955 --> 00:35:14,955 Speaker 1: didn't know what it meant, I nearly killed myself. I 528 00:35:15,075 --> 00:35:18,155 Speaker 1: permanently altered my health, and I put myself on a 529 00:35:18,155 --> 00:35:22,035 Speaker 1: path towards meeting the great doctor Renee Richards. I was 530 00:35:22,075 --> 00:35:24,995 Speaker 1: sleeping late in my relatively new and tiny studio apartment 531 00:35:25,035 --> 00:35:28,595 Speaker 1: on fifty fifth Street in Manhattan, apartment ten f whent 532 00:35:28,595 --> 00:35:32,195 Speaker 1: above me eleven f started making noise like pounding on 533 00:35:32,315 --> 00:35:35,395 Speaker 1: the floor. And now it's a thirty Sunday morning, and 534 00:35:35,435 --> 00:35:37,235 Speaker 1: I'm awake, and I'm not doing my job as a 535 00:35:37,355 --> 00:35:40,915 Speaker 1: radio sportscaster until about two, and I think, well, I'm up. 536 00:35:41,355 --> 00:35:43,555 Speaker 1: All the Dodgers are playing the Mets at Shay. I 537 00:35:43,555 --> 00:35:46,395 Speaker 1: can go to my other job as a semi professional 538 00:35:46,395 --> 00:35:49,075 Speaker 1: photographer and go shoot the Dodgers and still make it 539 00:35:49,075 --> 00:35:52,595 Speaker 1: to work on time. So I packed my semi professional 540 00:35:52,635 --> 00:35:56,475 Speaker 1: emphasis on the semi photographer's bag and drag myself out 541 00:35:56,475 --> 00:35:58,555 Speaker 1: on the subway and get to Share Stadium around eleven 542 00:35:58,675 --> 00:36:03,275 Speaker 1: thirty am. And there's nobody there. No Dodgers players, no 543 00:36:03,395 --> 00:36:06,675 Speaker 1: Mets players, nobody but the grounds keepers. And as the 544 00:36:06,715 --> 00:36:09,195 Speaker 1: minutes pass, I'm beginning to calculate when I have to 545 00:36:09,315 --> 00:36:12,195 Speaker 1: leave in order to not be late to my job. 546 00:36:12,235 --> 00:36:16,435 Speaker 1: Back in Manhattan, Weekend life in New York City in 547 00:36:16,555 --> 00:36:19,275 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty might as well have been nineteen ten. I 548 00:36:19,355 --> 00:36:21,835 Speaker 1: tell people this. They do not believe me. But when 549 00:36:21,835 --> 00:36:25,635 Speaker 1: I worked weekends the next year in Times Square, I 550 00:36:25,755 --> 00:36:29,035 Speaker 1: used to call into my newsroom from a payphone on 551 00:36:29,195 --> 00:36:32,715 Speaker 1: Fifth Avenue and say, okay, I'm going to Arby's today. 552 00:36:32,715 --> 00:36:35,755 Speaker 1: Who wants what? Or McDonald's or Burger King or wherever. 553 00:36:35,995 --> 00:36:39,195 Speaker 1: Because our office was in Times Square and on weekends 554 00:36:39,675 --> 00:36:44,355 Speaker 1: there were no restaurants open in Times Square. You could 555 00:36:44,355 --> 00:36:48,595 Speaker 1: not get food in Times Square on weekends. Today, the 556 00:36:48,675 --> 00:36:52,755 Speaker 1: same four square block area probably has fifty restaurants and 557 00:36:52,835 --> 00:36:56,395 Speaker 1: fast food places. So the train back to Manhattan from 558 00:36:56,395 --> 00:36:59,515 Speaker 1: Shaye Stadium in Queens ran once every half an hour 559 00:36:59,795 --> 00:37:02,075 Speaker 1: on that Sunday in August of nineteen eighty, And as 560 00:37:02,115 --> 00:37:03,795 Speaker 1: I looked at my watch, I realized I should have 561 00:37:03,875 --> 00:37:05,915 Speaker 1: left the field three or four four minutes ago. If 562 00:37:05,955 --> 00:37:09,515 Speaker 1: you went out the press entrance and exit at Shay Stadium, 563 00:37:09,915 --> 00:37:14,235 Speaker 1: you could see the train approaching the elevated station out 564 00:37:14,275 --> 00:37:16,995 Speaker 1: behind right field. And if you had just seen it, 565 00:37:17,075 --> 00:37:19,475 Speaker 1: if it had just become visible, and if you then 566 00:37:19,755 --> 00:37:23,235 Speaker 1: ran your fastest, you could make it to the viaduct 567 00:37:23,595 --> 00:37:25,995 Speaker 1: that crossed the parking lot and led you up towards 568 00:37:26,035 --> 00:37:28,395 Speaker 1: the station platform. And if you could get your subway 569 00:37:28,435 --> 00:37:31,115 Speaker 1: token out and into the turnstile slot with one flewid 570 00:37:31,155 --> 00:37:33,715 Speaker 1: overhead motion, and if you kept running all the time, 571 00:37:33,955 --> 00:37:38,875 Speaker 1: you could just make the train. If you didn't, you 572 00:37:38,915 --> 00:37:42,595 Speaker 1: would be waiting half an hour, unless maybe the next 573 00:37:42,635 --> 00:37:48,275 Speaker 1: train was late or on fire somewhere. Sure enough, as 574 00:37:48,315 --> 00:37:50,075 Speaker 1: I got out of the ballpark, I could see the 575 00:37:50,115 --> 00:37:52,995 Speaker 1: Manhattan bound train just appearing at the horizon. I was 576 00:37:53,035 --> 00:37:57,635 Speaker 1: twenty one. My knees still worked, and I ran, and 577 00:37:57,675 --> 00:37:59,555 Speaker 1: I got into the viaduct and I got the token 578 00:37:59,595 --> 00:38:01,635 Speaker 1: out of my pocket, and I got into the slot 579 00:38:01,715 --> 00:38:05,275 Speaker 1: like Darryl Dawkins doing a Tomahawk slam. And I not 580 00:38:05,395 --> 00:38:07,675 Speaker 1: only made the train, but I made it by so 581 00:38:07,915 --> 00:38:12,235 Speaker 1: much that I styled, I celebrated, I congratulated myself. I 582 00:38:12,275 --> 00:38:18,035 Speaker 1: was guilty of premature jocularity. I could have just slowed 583 00:38:18,075 --> 00:38:22,355 Speaker 1: to a triumphant jog and gotten a seat, huffing and sweaty, 584 00:38:22,435 --> 00:38:25,315 Speaker 1: but eminently satisfied and on time for work. But no, 585 00:38:26,315 --> 00:38:32,235 Speaker 1: I decided to make an exultant, joyful leap. The next 586 00:38:32,275 --> 00:38:35,515 Speaker 1: thing I registered was the loudest sound I had ever 587 00:38:35,755 --> 00:38:40,355 Speaker 1: or have since ever heard, as if six hundred gongs 588 00:38:40,395 --> 00:38:43,835 Speaker 1: had gone off simultaneously, or a dozen church bells, or 589 00:38:43,875 --> 00:38:47,035 Speaker 1: every alarm clock that had ever awakened me from the 590 00:38:47,075 --> 00:38:50,795 Speaker 1: deepest of sleeps. Something like this, but inside your head 591 00:38:51,915 --> 00:38:57,155 Speaker 1: bum when it happened was forgetting that I was no 592 00:38:57,235 --> 00:38:59,555 Speaker 1: longer six feet tall as I had been even two 593 00:38:59,635 --> 00:39:01,835 Speaker 1: years before, but was now just under six ' four. 594 00:39:02,355 --> 00:39:05,795 Speaker 1: My leap had ended with me lamming my forehead on 595 00:39:05,835 --> 00:39:09,635 Speaker 1: the flat metal bar just above the train doorway. An 596 00:39:09,635 --> 00:39:13,635 Speaker 1: inch higher, I might of blinded myself. The bar an 597 00:39:13,635 --> 00:39:16,995 Speaker 1: inch above the doorway is in fact, as I found out, later, 598 00:39:17,075 --> 00:39:19,755 Speaker 1: the thickest piece of metal on a New York City 599 00:39:19,795 --> 00:39:24,195 Speaker 1: subway train. As it was, my momentum carried me safely 600 00:39:24,235 --> 00:39:26,595 Speaker 1: into the train. I hit the floor. I saw my 601 00:39:26,635 --> 00:39:30,035 Speaker 1: sunglasses go flying off and rattling down towards the back 602 00:39:30,075 --> 00:39:32,915 Speaker 1: of the train like a plastic rat. I heard the 603 00:39:32,955 --> 00:39:35,675 Speaker 1: train doors close, I felt the blood on my head 604 00:39:35,715 --> 00:39:37,555 Speaker 1: and in my hair, and I crawled up onto the 605 00:39:37,555 --> 00:39:42,035 Speaker 1: plastic bench seating behind me. The mass gong sound continued 606 00:39:42,075 --> 00:39:44,755 Speaker 1: in my head, and my first cochin thought was to 607 00:39:44,795 --> 00:39:48,275 Speaker 1: see the blood on the train floor and think, Oh, 608 00:39:48,555 --> 00:39:51,795 Speaker 1: I have spilled blood all over their train, and I 609 00:39:51,875 --> 00:39:56,715 Speaker 1: don't have anything to clean it up with. Similar nonsense 610 00:39:56,755 --> 00:40:01,315 Speaker 1: continued to bounce around my concussed size eight noggin for seconds, 611 00:40:01,355 --> 00:40:03,955 Speaker 1: maybe minutes. It was beginning to really hurt, and of 612 00:40:03,995 --> 00:40:07,795 Speaker 1: more practical import the bleeding had not really stopped. At 613 00:40:07,795 --> 00:40:10,395 Speaker 1: this point. An older woman sitting more or less across 614 00:40:10,395 --> 00:40:13,755 Speaker 1: from me handed me a small packet. It was a 615 00:40:13,795 --> 00:40:17,675 Speaker 1: wet wipe. I mumbled thanks, opened it, dabbed it on 616 00:40:17,755 --> 00:40:20,115 Speaker 1: my forehead for a second, and was surprised to find 617 00:40:20,155 --> 00:40:23,995 Speaker 1: it instantly inundated with blood. This was the first time 618 00:40:24,035 --> 00:40:25,795 Speaker 1: it occurred to me that I might be in real 619 00:40:25,915 --> 00:40:28,355 Speaker 1: trouble on the number seven local train to Grand Central 620 00:40:28,355 --> 00:40:32,355 Speaker 1: and Times Square. Apparently this thought occurred simultaneously to the 621 00:40:32,355 --> 00:40:35,075 Speaker 1: woman with the wet wipes and to her friend, I 622 00:40:35,115 --> 00:40:37,195 Speaker 1: think you're kind of hurt. One of them said to me, 623 00:40:37,475 --> 00:40:39,795 Speaker 1: let's get you to the hospital. There's one a couple 624 00:40:39,835 --> 00:40:44,475 Speaker 1: of blocks from the next stop. Now understand this situation. 625 00:40:44,755 --> 00:40:47,635 Speaker 1: The New York of nineteen eighty, and particularly the subways 626 00:40:47,635 --> 00:40:52,275 Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty were not nice places. Two years later, 627 00:40:52,315 --> 00:40:54,035 Speaker 1: I took a rush hour train to my job at 628 00:40:54,075 --> 00:40:56,595 Speaker 1: CNN at the World Trade Center and was annoyed to 629 00:40:56,715 --> 00:40:59,755 Speaker 1: find one guy who had sprawled himself over three seats 630 00:40:59,755 --> 00:41:03,155 Speaker 1: with a newspaper covering his face. Nine hours later, when 631 00:41:03,155 --> 00:41:04,595 Speaker 1: I went home, I got onto a train and sow 632 00:41:05,995 --> 00:41:09,795 Speaker 1: the same guy with the same newspaper on the same seats, 633 00:41:10,115 --> 00:41:12,435 Speaker 1: because it was the same train, and more importantly, because 634 00:41:12,435 --> 00:41:17,595 Speaker 1: he was dead anyway. It was now around twelve forty 635 00:41:17,595 --> 00:41:20,155 Speaker 1: five of a Sunday afternoon. If it had been night, 636 00:41:20,315 --> 00:41:22,435 Speaker 1: or indeed certain other times of the day or on 637 00:41:22,515 --> 00:41:24,755 Speaker 1: other train lines, I would have simply been the easiest 638 00:41:24,835 --> 00:41:27,635 Speaker 1: mugging victim in New York history. Somebody could have knocked 639 00:41:27,675 --> 00:41:30,595 Speaker 1: me over and taken my wallet with next to no effort. Hell, 640 00:41:30,955 --> 00:41:32,755 Speaker 1: they could have asked me for my wallet, and I 641 00:41:32,795 --> 00:41:35,595 Speaker 1: was so dazed I probably would have said, sure, have 642 00:41:35,675 --> 00:41:39,875 Speaker 1: a nice day, got any wet wipes? Instead, I met 643 00:41:39,915 --> 00:41:42,715 Speaker 1: not one, but two good Samaritans who knew where the 644 00:41:42,795 --> 00:41:45,555 Speaker 1: hospitals were in a part of town I could barely 645 00:41:45,555 --> 00:41:49,675 Speaker 1: find on a map. Sure enough, they helped me to 646 00:41:49,715 --> 00:41:51,835 Speaker 1: my feet, walked me down the steps and to the 647 00:41:51,875 --> 00:41:55,635 Speaker 1: two blocks or so that separated us from Elmhurst Hospital. 648 00:41:56,035 --> 00:41:58,315 Speaker 1: And when I reassured them I was clearheaded enough to 649 00:41:58,355 --> 00:42:01,555 Speaker 1: get into the emergency room by myself, they wished me luck, 650 00:42:01,595 --> 00:42:04,115 Speaker 1: and they would not even accept my offer of two 651 00:42:04,315 --> 00:42:07,875 Speaker 1: token to get them back on the subway. There should 652 00:42:07,875 --> 00:42:12,195 Speaker 1: be a monument to these two women somewhere. If the 653 00:42:12,235 --> 00:42:15,155 Speaker 1: New York City subways of nineteen eighty were scary, the 654 00:42:15,195 --> 00:42:18,035 Speaker 1: emergency rooms of its hospitals were something out of a 655 00:42:18,075 --> 00:42:21,195 Speaker 1: Brian de Palma film. I think there were a couple 656 00:42:21,235 --> 00:42:23,635 Speaker 1: of dozen people in the er. I remember one of 657 00:42:23,635 --> 00:42:26,235 Speaker 1: them asking me how I got so bloody, and I explained, 658 00:42:26,235 --> 00:42:28,555 Speaker 1: and he said you should go ahead of me, and 659 00:42:28,595 --> 00:42:31,395 Speaker 1: he opened his windbreaker to show a blood covered shirt, 660 00:42:31,435 --> 00:42:35,515 Speaker 1: and he added the bullet only crazed me. I know. 661 00:42:35,595 --> 00:42:39,435 Speaker 1: I waited about two hours. During that time I had 662 00:42:39,435 --> 00:42:43,315 Speaker 1: a singular experience which has informed my understanding of concussions 663 00:42:43,595 --> 00:42:48,275 Speaker 1: and traumatic brain injury ever since. The desk nurse asked 664 00:42:48,275 --> 00:42:50,875 Speaker 1: me for the name of a contact, preferably a family member. 665 00:42:50,915 --> 00:42:53,755 Speaker 1: I gave my father's name, Theodore. Then she asked me 666 00:42:53,795 --> 00:42:55,715 Speaker 1: for my full name, and when I went to say it, 667 00:42:56,715 --> 00:43:00,715 Speaker 1: I could not remember my middle name. Could not remember 668 00:43:00,755 --> 00:43:04,955 Speaker 1: my middle name Keith. I got Olderman, I got that 669 00:43:05,075 --> 00:43:10,035 Speaker 1: was it. My middle name is also Theodore. I could 670 00:43:10,035 --> 00:43:16,395 Speaker 1: remember Theodore my dad, but not Theodore my middle name. 671 00:43:17,315 --> 00:43:21,155 Speaker 1: That is how fragile your brain really is. Think of 672 00:43:21,195 --> 00:43:23,355 Speaker 1: that the next time you see somebody get clocked in 673 00:43:23,395 --> 00:43:27,515 Speaker 1: a sporting event. There was some comic relief. I called 674 00:43:27,515 --> 00:43:30,795 Speaker 1: into my office at United Press International's Audio network and 675 00:43:30,875 --> 00:43:33,475 Speaker 1: explained to the news editor a veteran named Ed Kerns, 676 00:43:33,515 --> 00:43:35,915 Speaker 1: the most dapperman in radio history, who looked like the 677 00:43:35,955 --> 00:43:39,195 Speaker 1: actor Ray Collins from Citizen Kane. I told Ed, I 678 00:43:39,235 --> 00:43:43,035 Speaker 1: had just sort of almost, you know, killed myself on 679 00:43:43,075 --> 00:43:46,275 Speaker 1: the subway coming in from Queen's and I really didn't 680 00:43:46,315 --> 00:43:49,315 Speaker 1: know when or if I would be at work. About 681 00:43:49,355 --> 00:43:52,235 Speaker 1: forty five minutes after that conversation, the desk nurse started 682 00:43:52,275 --> 00:43:54,155 Speaker 1: shouting my name, and I thought, Okay, I'm finally going 683 00:43:54,195 --> 00:43:56,595 Speaker 1: to be brought in to see a doctor. No, it 684 00:43:56,675 --> 00:44:00,395 Speaker 1: was Ed Caron's calling from UPI. My bosses were all 685 00:44:00,555 --> 00:44:02,915 Speaker 1: very sorry that I was wounded, he said, but there 686 00:44:02,955 --> 00:44:05,075 Speaker 1: was nobody available to fill in for me. So when 687 00:44:05,115 --> 00:44:08,235 Speaker 1: could they expect me to be in the office, I explained, 688 00:44:08,275 --> 00:44:11,435 Speaker 1: I did not know that since I was technically still 689 00:44:11,435 --> 00:44:15,755 Speaker 1: bleeding to death. Forty five minutes more passed, and again 690 00:44:15,795 --> 00:44:17,875 Speaker 1: the nurse summoned me and said there was a phone call, 691 00:44:17,875 --> 00:44:19,435 Speaker 1: and this time I was sure it was my dad, 692 00:44:20,195 --> 00:44:24,155 Speaker 1: Keith Edkarn's again at PI. He explained that my boss 693 00:44:24,195 --> 00:44:26,315 Speaker 1: now said that they would bring in the guy who 694 00:44:26,355 --> 00:44:29,315 Speaker 1: was supposed to do the next morning sports cast, my 695 00:44:29,475 --> 00:44:32,995 Speaker 1: college friend Peter shack Now, but they expected me to 696 00:44:32,995 --> 00:44:35,475 Speaker 1: do his shift starting at four point thirty in the morning. 697 00:44:36,115 --> 00:44:37,875 Speaker 1: I explained to Ed that I would try, but that 698 00:44:37,995 --> 00:44:41,155 Speaker 1: honestly I didn't know where I was or what time 699 00:44:41,195 --> 00:44:44,195 Speaker 1: it was. Now two nice ladies had mentioned the name 700 00:44:44,235 --> 00:44:46,635 Speaker 1: of the hospital, but I really wasn't remembering too well. 701 00:44:47,235 --> 00:44:51,955 Speaker 1: Plus I was still bleeding to death. Needless to say, 702 00:44:51,995 --> 00:44:53,915 Speaker 1: I did not bleed to death. I survived. It was 703 00:44:53,955 --> 00:44:55,915 Speaker 1: a severe concussion, but it only took a stitch and 704 00:44:55,915 --> 00:44:58,035 Speaker 1: a half to actually close that wound. And the er 705 00:44:58,115 --> 00:45:00,715 Speaker 1: doctor and the nurses were outstanding, and they gave me 706 00:45:00,755 --> 00:45:03,915 Speaker 1: easy to remember instructions, plus a note indicating that I 707 00:45:03,955 --> 00:45:06,635 Speaker 1: should rest for at least forty eight hours just in 708 00:45:06,635 --> 00:45:11,595 Speaker 1: case Ed Caarns showed up at my apartment. No offense 709 00:45:11,595 --> 00:45:14,555 Speaker 1: to Ed. They told me what symptoms to expect, how 710 00:45:14,555 --> 00:45:16,835 Speaker 1: to prepare for them, and when they would stop. And 711 00:45:16,875 --> 00:45:19,795 Speaker 1: they stopped like one day earlier. It was a potential 712 00:45:19,835 --> 00:45:24,995 Speaker 1: disaster that turned into a nothing burger, or so I thought. 713 00:45:25,875 --> 00:45:28,355 Speaker 1: Two years later, I was at the original Louis Armstrong 714 00:45:28,435 --> 00:45:31,955 Speaker 1: Stadium covering the nineteen eighty two US Tennis Open, on 715 00:45:32,035 --> 00:45:35,515 Speaker 1: the other side of the same elevated subway station where 716 00:45:35,515 --> 00:45:39,915 Speaker 1: I had run into the train going there always actually 717 00:45:39,915 --> 00:45:43,475 Speaker 1: made me laugh. Until the afternoon of Saturday, September eleventh, 718 00:45:43,555 --> 00:45:46,475 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two. I was watching the Women's final covering 719 00:45:46,515 --> 00:45:50,115 Speaker 1: it for CNN. Chris Everett over Hannah Mandlakova and swinging 720 00:45:50,155 --> 00:45:52,355 Speaker 1: my head from side to side, as one does to 721 00:45:52,395 --> 00:45:55,995 Speaker 1: follow the tennis action from over here, two over there, 722 00:45:56,435 --> 00:46:00,275 Speaker 1: two over here, two over there, as I had swung 723 00:46:00,315 --> 00:46:02,675 Speaker 1: my head from side to side for the preceding twelve 724 00:46:02,755 --> 00:46:05,875 Speaker 1: days of the tournament. Then I swung to the right, 725 00:46:05,955 --> 00:46:09,155 Speaker 1: but my left eye kept looking to the left, the 726 00:46:09,195 --> 00:46:15,475 Speaker 1: old Marty Feldman thing reversed crossed eyes that hurt worse 727 00:46:15,635 --> 00:46:19,635 Speaker 1: than hitting the train had. I could barely stand any light. 728 00:46:19,995 --> 00:46:21,995 Speaker 1: I often had to keep my hand in front of 729 00:46:21,995 --> 00:46:24,795 Speaker 1: my eyes. I rushed to my optometrist Monday morning and 730 00:46:24,795 --> 00:46:27,155 Speaker 1: he started to laugh. This happened to you to during 731 00:46:27,195 --> 00:46:30,115 Speaker 1: the US Open. I said, yes, why are you laughing 732 00:46:30,115 --> 00:46:32,555 Speaker 1: at me? He said, I'm going to send you to 733 00:46:32,595 --> 00:46:35,675 Speaker 1: the best muscle ophthalmologist I've ever met. I said, so, 734 00:46:35,955 --> 00:46:38,035 Speaker 1: why are you laughing at me? He said, you don't 735 00:46:38,075 --> 00:46:40,715 Speaker 1: know who that is. I said, no, I let my 736 00:46:40,835 --> 00:46:43,915 Speaker 1: knowledge of the muscle ophthalmology ranking slip. Why are you 737 00:46:44,035 --> 00:46:47,035 Speaker 1: laughing at me? He said, The best muscle ophthalmologist I've 738 00:46:47,075 --> 00:46:50,115 Speaker 1: ever met is doctor Renee Richards, the transsexual tennis player. 739 00:46:50,595 --> 00:46:53,115 Speaker 1: I said, I don't care who you're sending me to. 740 00:46:53,235 --> 00:46:55,035 Speaker 1: I'm in trouble here. If they can fix this, I 741 00:46:55,075 --> 00:46:58,115 Speaker 1: don't care who you're sending me to. My train accident 742 00:46:58,155 --> 00:47:00,315 Speaker 1: was so far in my past that when I got 743 00:47:00,315 --> 00:47:02,835 Speaker 1: in to see doctor Richards the next morning, I didn't 744 00:47:02,835 --> 00:47:05,235 Speaker 1: even think to mention it in my patient history. It 745 00:47:05,235 --> 00:47:08,435 Speaker 1: didn't matter. Thirty seconds of staring into my eyes through 746 00:47:08,435 --> 00:47:13,035 Speaker 1: a wall sized feropter and Renee Richards said, when exactly 747 00:47:13,075 --> 00:47:16,755 Speaker 1: did you hit your head August or September of nineteen eighty. 748 00:47:17,355 --> 00:47:20,915 Speaker 1: I was stunned. Uh I did hit my head in 749 00:47:20,995 --> 00:47:25,355 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty August twenty fourth. She made a clicking noise 750 00:47:25,395 --> 00:47:28,115 Speaker 1: of satisfaction. I've heard of this before, but I've never 751 00:47:28,155 --> 00:47:31,155 Speaker 1: seen it. You couldn't do this again in a million years. 752 00:47:31,635 --> 00:47:34,075 Speaker 1: The good news is that muscle problem with the eyes, 753 00:47:34,635 --> 00:47:36,915 Speaker 1: that's just muscle exhaustion. We can fix that with a 754 00:47:37,035 --> 00:47:39,395 Speaker 1: thing that costs to buck ninety eight. The bad news 755 00:47:39,435 --> 00:47:41,835 Speaker 1: is when you hit your head, most of the damage 756 00:47:41,915 --> 00:47:44,235 Speaker 1: must have been absorbed by your inner ear. If you 757 00:47:44,275 --> 00:47:47,355 Speaker 1: want to fix that, you'll need brain surgery. I don't 758 00:47:47,355 --> 00:47:52,395 Speaker 1: recommend brain surgery. Doctor Renee Richards showed me the muscle 759 00:47:52,435 --> 00:47:55,115 Speaker 1: exercises that cost a dollar ninety eight that fixed my 760 00:47:55,195 --> 00:47:58,915 Speaker 1: reverse cross eyes. They felt better immediately. I still do 761 00:47:59,035 --> 00:48:04,075 Speaker 1: the exercises I did them earlier today. Then Renee Richards said, 762 00:48:04,235 --> 00:48:07,675 Speaker 1: so you're a sports reporter. It says here, listen, my 763 00:48:07,715 --> 00:48:10,235 Speaker 1: next patient isn't due for half an hour. You should 764 00:48:10,315 --> 00:48:15,555 Speaker 1: rest anyway after my exam. Let's talk about sports reporting. 765 00:48:16,715 --> 00:48:20,595 Speaker 1: Renee Richards was an expert. Her transition had been outed 766 00:48:20,635 --> 00:48:26,035 Speaker 1: by a sportscaster, Tucker Carlson's father. If you can believe that, 767 00:48:27,115 --> 00:48:30,315 Speaker 1: I can believe it because she had been a man 768 00:48:30,755 --> 00:48:32,995 Speaker 1: when she played in the US Open. As a woman, 769 00:48:33,075 --> 00:48:37,075 Speaker 1: she had become almost instantaneously the most famous tennis player 770 00:48:37,155 --> 00:48:42,835 Speaker 1: in the world. Then she became Martina Navratulova's coach. I 771 00:48:42,955 --> 00:48:46,035 Speaker 1: learned more from her in that first half hour of 772 00:48:46,115 --> 00:48:49,355 Speaker 1: conversation about the ethics of reporting than I had in 773 00:48:49,555 --> 00:48:55,395 Speaker 1: all of my previous life experiences combined. Plus she was 774 00:48:55,435 --> 00:48:58,675 Speaker 1: a gas. Renee Richards was hilarious, she was self effacing, 775 00:48:58,715 --> 00:49:00,555 Speaker 1: She was a great doctor, and to me, she was 776 00:49:00,595 --> 00:49:03,475 Speaker 1: the definition of courage. And she, I am proud to say, 777 00:49:03,595 --> 00:49:07,955 Speaker 1: is still my friend. All because I did not know 778 00:49:08,035 --> 00:49:11,075 Speaker 1: what Mom meant when she said, don't run for a train. 779 00:49:11,115 --> 00:49:13,995 Speaker 1: There'll always be another one. The other phrase I never 780 00:49:13,995 --> 00:49:19,155 Speaker 1: really understood till then was break neck speed. Oh and 781 00:49:19,275 --> 00:49:22,195 Speaker 1: there is one more punchline here. If the name of 782 00:49:22,235 --> 00:49:24,875 Speaker 1: that hospital that the two Good Samaritans took me to, 783 00:49:25,155 --> 00:49:29,195 Speaker 1: Elmhurst Hospital, sounds vaguely familiar, it should. It was ground 784 00:49:29,275 --> 00:49:32,795 Speaker 1: zero when COVID nineteen hit, when the pandemic had its 785 00:49:32,835 --> 00:49:36,075 Speaker 1: hand around New York City's throat. The worst hit community 786 00:49:36,155 --> 00:49:39,835 Speaker 1: was Elmhurst in Queen's and the worst hit hospital was 787 00:49:39,955 --> 00:49:43,395 Speaker 1: Elmhurst Hospital. They were in desperate need at that point 788 00:49:43,435 --> 00:49:45,875 Speaker 1: of ventilators, so I knew what I had to do. 789 00:49:45,955 --> 00:49:50,115 Speaker 1: You could buy them for cash legally, So I got 790 00:49:50,355 --> 00:49:53,795 Speaker 1: two ventilators. I had them delivered, one for each of 791 00:49:53,835 --> 00:49:56,275 Speaker 1: the ladies who helped me to get off the damned 792 00:49:56,275 --> 00:50:12,555 Speaker 1: train that day. Man did that hurt. I've done all 793 00:50:12,555 --> 00:50:14,475 Speaker 1: the damage I can do here. Thank you for listening. 794 00:50:14,475 --> 00:50:16,995 Speaker 1: Countdown has come to you from the Vin Scully Studios 795 00:50:17,315 --> 00:50:20,675 Speaker 1: at the headquarters of the Olderman Broadcasting Empire in New York. 796 00:50:22,195 --> 00:50:25,755 Speaker 1: It's my suit closet. Countdown musical directors Brian Ray and 797 00:50:25,835 --> 00:50:29,955 Speaker 1: John Phillips. Shanelle Arrange produced and performed most of our music. Well, 798 00:50:29,995 --> 00:50:31,715 Speaker 1: I like to be honest with you, you take the 799 00:50:31,715 --> 00:50:33,515 Speaker 1: time to listen to this, I should tell you that 800 00:50:33,555 --> 00:50:37,595 Speaker 1: I'm broadcasting from a suit closet, the best acoustics of 801 00:50:37,635 --> 00:50:40,555 Speaker 1: any studio I have ever worked in in my life, 802 00:50:41,635 --> 00:50:45,515 Speaker 1: and good suits. Mister Shanelle handled orchestration and keyboards. Mister 803 00:50:45,595 --> 00:50:48,115 Speaker 1: Ray was on the guitars, the bass, and the drums. 804 00:50:48,315 --> 00:50:52,595 Speaker 1: That was produced by TKO Brothers. See TKO Brothers is 805 00:50:52,755 --> 00:50:54,995 Speaker 1: just to play on my initials, which are kt O. 806 00:50:55,115 --> 00:50:57,235 Speaker 1: Brian Ray thought this up. We have to have some 807 00:50:57,355 --> 00:51:01,435 Speaker 1: producer for some musical legal reason or I don't know. 808 00:51:03,275 --> 00:51:05,035 Speaker 1: Eric Clapton told him to do that. I don't know 809 00:51:05,075 --> 00:51:08,795 Speaker 1: what happened. Other music, including other Beethoven tunes, are arranged 810 00:51:08,835 --> 00:51:11,835 Speaker 1: and performed by the group No Horns Allowed. I met 811 00:51:11,875 --> 00:51:14,195 Speaker 1: those guys in Central Park. They used to play over 812 00:51:14,235 --> 00:51:17,355 Speaker 1: by the carousel when it wasn't running during the pandemic. 813 00:51:18,115 --> 00:51:20,795 Speaker 1: I don't know where all of these annotations are coming from. 814 00:51:20,835 --> 00:51:23,555 Speaker 1: The sports music courtesy of ESPN, Inc. Was written by 815 00:51:23,595 --> 00:51:27,395 Speaker 1: Mitch Warren Davis. It's called the Olderman Theme from ESPN two. 816 00:51:27,595 --> 00:51:30,475 Speaker 1: That's from the show that debuted ten years ago. Last month, 817 00:51:30,755 --> 00:51:34,955 Speaker 1: god Our Satirical on pithy musical comments are by Nancy Fauss, 818 00:51:34,955 --> 00:51:38,115 Speaker 1: the best baseball stadium organist ever. Our announcer today was 819 00:51:38,115 --> 00:51:40,995 Speaker 1: my friend Jonathan Banks, not only from Better Call Saw 820 00:51:41,115 --> 00:51:44,555 Speaker 1: and Breaking Bad, but he's also an airplane and everything 821 00:51:44,555 --> 00:51:47,115 Speaker 1: else was pretty much my fault. That's countdown for this 822 00:51:47,155 --> 00:51:49,875 Speaker 1: the one thousand and forty fourth day since dementia J 823 00:51:49,995 --> 00:51:53,035 Speaker 1: Trump's first attempted coup against the democratically elected government of 824 00:51:53,075 --> 00:51:56,435 Speaker 1: the United States. Convict him now while we still can. 825 00:51:57,155 --> 00:52:00,075 Speaker 1: The next scheduled countdown is tomorrow. Bolton's as the news 826 00:52:00,075 --> 00:52:03,675 Speaker 1: warrants till then. I'm Keith ol Ruminan or whatever my 827 00:52:03,755 --> 00:52:08,475 Speaker 1: name is. 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