WEBVTT - Terry McLaurin Trade Fits, HOF Game and Fantasy Draft Primer with Evan Silva and Patrick Daughtery 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:00.600 Charge. 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:03.960 It's gonna go for an unfortunate too, and it's Lance 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:07.680 probably on top touchdown brought in by Will Dishway. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.560 He had two last year and the eighth. 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:15.640 Year chin End out of Washington puts the Chargers on 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:17.040 the board with the years first school. 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:20.880 Welcome to NFL Daily, where we know we're just big 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:25.119 football dorc because we're feeling warm and fuzzy inside here 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.360 in Mike Tarrico call an American football. 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:28.720 Game in July. 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:34.080 Yeah, that was a touchdown by Trey Lance. I gotta 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.240 say this was one of the best Hall of Fame 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:39.880 games of all time. There were actually a few little 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.480 takeaways from it, but it was just nice to see 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:46.159 a couple names we recognized with Trey Lance with a 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.920 rookie Isaac Daslau. I'll get to a couple takeaways, but 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.080 it's not gonna be much coming from the Hall of 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.880 Fame game. We're gonna have a big conversation, really our 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:58.360 first big primer to get you ready for fantasy football drafts, 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.280 to start thinking about what your strategy is going to be, 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.280 what to do at different positions, who you're looking for 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.200 that has a good value. That's all coming up with 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:10.760 Evan Silva and Pat Dherty. So that is an awesome conversation. First, 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.240 I'm going to hit very quick few items of news 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.240 and the Hall of Fame game, and then we'll talk 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:20.399 a little fantasy since we tape the fantasy segment. Terry 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:25.280 McLaurin decided he wants out of Washington. Whether this is 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:30.280 a decision that is just driven to get a bigger contract, obviously, 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.720 that's a big part of it. Ian Rappaport of NFL 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.520 Network points out that you know it's a long shot. 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.160 Usually you don't see a team that's trying to contend 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.440 make a trade at this time of the season. But 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.720 Terry McLaurin, who's been there forever, felt like he had 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:48.440 no other card to play and it would be crazy 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:49.480 for them to trade him. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.520 But I will say the old Washington regime. 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.920 Like they would do something stupid like that, and this 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.320 is a good test of the new ownership what the 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.640 difference is going to be. And I will say other 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:03.840 teams tame can make it uncomfortable for both Terry McLaurin 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:07.400 and his agent and the commanders, because there are absolutely 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.320 teams out there that will let him know if he 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:15.960 doesn't already how valuable he would be if Washington opened 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.200 up for a potential trade. So I'm looking at teams 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:19.880 with a lot of cap space and a lot of 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:23.519 desperation and a big time need, and immediately I think 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.239 of the New England Patriots. Immediately I think of the 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.920 Las Vegas Raiders. I think those are two teams that 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.480 could fit Terry McLaurin into their books, and he would 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.760 fit great on the roster and they would absolutely do it. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.560 I watching the game tonight, I thought, man Terry McLaurin 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.560 on the other side of Lad McConkie, that would be incredible. 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.680 The Chargers have a ton of cap space. And then 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:49.720 you think about connections between teams, and you think about 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:54.360 the former general manager, or rather assistant general manager of 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.480 the forty nine Ers is now running the Commanders. 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:58.200 That is a deal that could happen. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.560 We already saw the Deebo Samuel in terms of the 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:04.920 team connection there, maybe something could get done. The reality 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:09.959 is Washington needs to pay Terry McLaurin. It falls like 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.760 a cliff after him, not just that receiver, but just 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.760 for receivers in general. It is not a talented enough 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.880 group for Jane Daniels to throw to. Terry mclaurin's been 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.080 one of the ten best receivers in the league for 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.519 a long time and he's held that organization up and 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:25.919 I'm sure he wants to get paid close to top 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.280 dollar and they're trying to save a little money on 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.920 a guy that's getting older, and he's putting the screws 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.880 to them. And ultimately I think that contract will get done, 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.800 but other teams could make it interesting. I think they 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:43.080 would offer a very good pick for Terry McLaurin, and 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.520 certainly would offer a better contract than I bet Washington 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.640 is offering right now. A couple other just little items 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.840 of news to get through before we get to the fantasy, 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.760 get to the Hall of Fame. Colton Miller, the left tackle, 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:59.000 the Raiders signed a big contract extension with them forty 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:03.200 two million dollars guaranteed, very similar to the deal that 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.960 the Colts got done just a couple of days ago 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.880 for a very good, maybe not top eight tackle, but 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.400 a very good tackle on Colton Miller won less position 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:14.600 for the Raiders to worry about when they have a 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.119 lot of positions to worry about going into twenty six. 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.560 In twenty seven, he'll be around Noah Fan who did 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.479 a rare late free agency tour chose the Bengals. 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.960 I think that was a smart decision. Joe Burrow plays for. 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.560 The Bengals, even if he's gonna be behind Mike Gasicki 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:31.960 at tight end. That was the best situation that he 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.360 could put himself into compared to the Saints and the Dolphins. 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.560 So I think that rounds out the Bengals receiver group, 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.560 which is really really talented. We hadn't mentioned on the 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.599 show the worst news for Cater Kohu, who was the 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.080 Dolphin's best cornerback on the team. I know he was 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.320 the slot, but he was the best cornerback on the team. 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.719 He is out for the season. So I've been talking 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.880 about how I do not trust that secondary at all, 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:58.719 and they look even worse after some injuries in training camp. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.039 And then just an update on Isaiah Likely, the Ravens 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:03.760 tight end. We thought he was just going to be 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:05.840 out for a couple of weeks, but he will have 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.119 surgery on his foot and be out at least six weeks, 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.479 so seems like he's questionable ish for that Week one 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.080 game against the Bills. Man, the NFL is really front 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.280 loading those great games. So we got Ravens Bills on 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.920 the first Sunday night football of the year. And by 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:26.560 the way, happy trails to rugby star Luis Reese Zammitt, 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.000 who I know a lot of our listeners were really excited, 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.080 one of the biggest rugby stars in the world. And 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.880 he came over to try his hand at football, and 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.320 he was with the Chiefs and then the Jaguars didn't 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:38.040 work out for him. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.040 He decides, I'm done with the NFL. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.240 I'm going back to the sport where I'm apparently one 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.000 of the best young talents in the entire world twenty 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.760 four years old. Didn't work at football. And you know, 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.760 I mentioned that Ravens Bills game. That's the first Sunday 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.800 night game of the year. And I do think NBC 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.360 does its absolute best work during the Hall of Fame game, 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.800 because you feel like it's a super They do such 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.400 a good job with the production and the presentation. And meanwhile, 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.680 it's Tendon Hooker and Trey Lance playing at a high 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:12.080 school field in Ohio, and it got me really pumped 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.839 up in a way that most of the preseason probably won't. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.920 We'll be covering it all but It was really great 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:19.640 to just see football played again. It was great to 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:21.600 see a first round pick in this game. The Chargers 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.760 did have their starters out there very briefly, at least 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:26.880 a few of them, certainly not at quarterback where Trey 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.440 Lance started, but a few other ones Omari and Hampton 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:33.720 got out there. Had one absolutely electric run in the 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.839 red zone where you saw the speed and a little 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.440 more shiftiness than you're used to getting down near the 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.080 goal line. And then you saw another run where he 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.760 got out in the open field and man, you thought 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.640 that he was gonna score a touchdown and instead he 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.040 got a little hesitanting He didn't always make guys miss 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.800 that well in the open field on tape, and rock 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.479 Ya Sin takes him down. So in terms of first rounders, 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.920 that's all we really saw tonight. The takeaways were that 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.320 Trey Lance looked comfortable for the first time, maybe ever 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.279 in an NFL uniform. He is battling for that backup 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.680 job with the Charger, so he will play a lot 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.480 in this preseason, but right now you got to figure 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.280 he is behind Taylor Heineke in that battle. But I 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.160 saw something on Blue Sky which I agreed with Victoria Zeller, 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.760 who is a good follow said, you just never saw 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:21.680 Trey Lance look this normal, So it was nice to 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.200 see Trey Lance just like look normal. Yeah, he's younger 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.080 than Tyler Shuck. He's actually a little younger than Michael Pennix. 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.160 Maybe he can settle in and just be like a 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.560 normal backup and have a career, which would be an 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.600 improvement from what we've seen from him so far. I 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.200 mentioned Isaac Taslaw earlier, so that was the third round 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:45.000 pick from Detroit who is just an absolute speed heightweight freak. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.400 Also has great hands, and he had two twenty yard 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.880 plus catches from Kyle al And in the first half 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:52.760 of that game, and man, you could see at the 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.920 second he got the ball, the juice that he had 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:59.200 immediately with a burst made you think, man, we will 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.520 probably see him as a fourth or fifth receiver make 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.160 a couple big plays for the. 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:04.800 Lions this season. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:09.240 Not as consistent a night for the other rookie on 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.240 the Lions that they really like, seventh round pick Dominic Lovett, 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.000 who didn't bring down a catch early in the game, 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:16.600 but then he made some nice scrabs the rest of 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.080 the way. I think both of those guys are going 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.160 to make the team, and they might be really good 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.240 leverage for the Lions in contract negotiations, not having to 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.920 give Jamison Williams that much money. If they really like 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.280 these young guys, you can only pay so many people. 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.600 That's about it in terms of my real deal takeaways. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:37.200 Both the options for the Lions for backup quarterbacks had 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.559 bad moments. Kyle Allen threw a pick six Kyle Allen 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.680 through another interception. He actually looked pretty good otherwise, and 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.040 he started before Hendon Hooker, who came in the third 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:48.839 round pick from a couple of years ago. They've been 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.800 trying to talk up Hendon Hooker all offseason, and he 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.439 did not look comfortable in this game. I know the 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.120 pick six he threw at the end of the game 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.000 was more bad luck. It was an interception where the 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.800 Chargers defender just ripped the ball away, but otherwise Hendon 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.640 Hooker did not look comfortable. Then again, he's playing with 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:08.120 a bunch of second, third, fourth stringers, a lot of 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:12.679 guys who won't be actually on rosters on Sundays in 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.679 the fall. But it was very cool to have football 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.280 back on my television and very cool to have my 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:22.560 friends Silva and Roto Pat join me. Here is our 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:28.360 big preview for fantasy football for twenty twenty five. All right, 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.360 I am thrilled to be here with two of my 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.800 absolute favorites in the industry too. Who I used to 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.720 be down in the mills just pounding out those ROATA 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:44.200 world player urbs with Evan Silva and Pat Doherty. Of course, 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.559 Evan Silva now with established the run and Roto Pat, 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.160 you're still keeping the lights on over at road a world. 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:50.800 I love it. 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.560 Yeah, I've been told I can never leave, so after 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:58.079 you two left, unbeknownst to me, I didn't even know 0:09:58.160 --> 0:09:58.960 I had a contract. 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:02.559 I signed a lifetime and looking at Silva if you're 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.199 watching on YouTube, he is like in a dark dungeon. 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.880 Silva is so all about ball that he doesn't even 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.400 waste time to like turn on the lights. I love 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:13.280 that about him. My inspiration Silva for this show. I 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:17.480 think you'll like. This was from a text from the 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.720 nephew of our great friend Chris Westling. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:23.760 One of the coolest things you know since. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:27.920 Wes's death that I've got to be part of is 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:32.000 the fantasy football life of his nephew, Mackie Westling. He 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.520 Chris and Mackie. We're gonna do this this league together. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.880 Before before Chris died, he was joining the league. He 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.200 was all excited. He would always get his fantasy advice 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.240 from his uncle Chris, and they had a really close 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.640 bond over that and then and since since then through 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:52.920 Phil and the Westling family. You know, his his nephew 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:54.880 now plays in a league with my kids. He freaking 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.240 won it last year and broke my kid's hearts. But 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.080 we're always texted, and he texted me the other day 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.600 he's always in a draft early. I'm like, don't be 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.560 in a draft this early. He's like, Oh, who should 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:04.360 I draft? What should I do? 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:04.480 What? 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:06.720 I was like, I don't even know. I haven't thought 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:08.920 about fantasy football at all. So I wanted to get 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.920 it straight from you to the source. And we'll just 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.319 do kind of a big picture first take, look at 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:19.720 a lot of these fantasy positions. Uh, just trends everything, 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.360 and I'll get I'll get the expertise. And this is 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.520 kind of my intro session. And so let's start with 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:29.960 with quarterbacks. Silva. I think big picture and we're talking redrafts. 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:31.840 We're not getting into the whole best boss, you know, 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.400 all that stuff, like we're talking for the average fait. 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.760 You can sorcery witchcraft. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.440 Yeah no, it's all great, but and you can hit 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.120 that if you want a little bit. But have you 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:45.480 changed your strategy about drafting quarterbacks in redraft over the years? 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:49.320 Like right this year? What is your strategy over the years? 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:53.160 It has absolutely changed. I remember, you know, back in 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.560 the day, it was all about late round quarterback, like 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.040 that was the way to get value, and people would 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:02.040 consistently overdraft quarterbacks and one of the biggest edges in 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.720 fantasy became the late round quarterback. I remember you wrote 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.480 an article too long time ago on wrote a world 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:13.240 greg about drafting waiting in your draft and drafting two 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:17.679 quarterbacks and kind of streaming them against the worst defenses. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.679 And that was a winning strategy, whereas people just assume, oh, 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:26.760 quarterbacks is super important position. But with the explosion of passing, 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.520 then you could get quarterbacks that were top ten, even 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:35.560 top eight, top five really late in drafts. That has 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:39.079 changed though, and that is with the advent of the 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.720 quarterbacks that run in addition to put up putting up 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:46.600 prolific passing statistics, and the best two examples of that 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:51.760 right now are Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, and then 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.080 Jaden Daniels also is potentially capable that he was not 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.360 a prolific passer last timer. He was hyper efficient, but 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.319 in terms of his overall numbers, but he ran for 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.040 almost a thousand yards. And then Jalen Hurts with the 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.160 tush push which is not going away, and he can 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:11.079 be good as a passer and incredibly productive from a 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:15.720 rushing touchdown standpoint. So and those guys deserve to go early. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.800 I mean, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen should not get 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:23.080 out of the third round, I don't think. And Jalen 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:27.360 Hurts is like a fourth fifth round pick, as is 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.640 Jaden Daniels, and then Joe Burrow belongs in like the 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:32.720 sixth and seventh rounds. 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.120 Yeah, and you're talking a little bit about, you know, 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.600 the average drafts, but I tell you and these kids drafts, 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.520 the quarterbacks go earlier. In the basics drafts, that goes earlier. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.079 I'm looking at the ADP from fantasy pros who kind 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:45.480 of averages a bunch of places. 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:46.880 So I feel like that's a good one. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.800 And yeah, Lamar and Josh are going like late second 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.640 round and Jayden and Jalen Hurts might be even in 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.959 the third round. So if you want them like, you 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.360 can get them and and it makes sense to me 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:01.400 because to me, it's maybe the one position we're just 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:05.760 taking them where their average draft position has been and 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.760 them hitting about par or a little better the last 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.840 few years has been league winners, Like I see it 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:11.400 in these leagues. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.040 My kids do, and I do like if. 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:16.520 You just kind of took Lamar and Josh Allen and 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:18.720 Jalen Hurts where they were supposed to go the last 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.960 few years, there's a lot of league winners there because 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:23.640 of that. So there is something about it to me 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:27.080 where you're comparing them to some pretty shaky running backs 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.840 that are available at that spot or even the wide receivers, 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.000 and to me, like I feel much better about those 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.240 four specifically, like when you draft Pat, are you ending 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:37.320 up with those guys? 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:37.920 And what do you think? 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:39.840 Well, first off, just real quick, let me say, in 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.440 a workforce that included Greg Rosenthal, Evan Silva, and Chris Westling, 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:47.040 I was the alpha. Was the I was the twenty 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.920 four year old alpha amongst all those lumin. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.000 Areas of there, You're the funniest. You're the funniest. 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:55.480 Well, thank you for that incorrect praise, but you truly 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.240 had to pinch myself who I was working with back 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.680 in the day at rotor world dot Com. Evan laid 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.960 it out so well, where like late round quarterback is dead, 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.600 but it's just like a variation of it. I would say, 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:10.240 now it's either early or late where you still want 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.240 to avoid like the muddled middle. There is something to 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.200 be said like not having a stream at quarterback too, 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.680 by the way, like that's a fringe benefit of early 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.720 round quarterback that some people don't point out, Like listen, dude, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.240 I'm just in my home league, Like I don't want 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.800 to be grinding matchups every week, Like this is like 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.200 an inconvenience. I don't need raising my kids and working 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.680 my job. That's another factor of early round quarterback. But 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:38.080 the end of like the Breeze Brady Manning Roethlisberger Golden Age, 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.680 there was just seriously like no point in taking in 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:42.840 quarterback for like the tenth or eleventh round, cause they 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.960 were so jumbled together, it was so deep. As Evan 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:47.960 points out, that is no longer the case where there's 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.840 been a breakaway tier at the top of the true 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.440 dual threats, and like Cam Newton was kind of the 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.080 beginning of that, but there's been a lot of Cam 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.120 Newton's successors. Cam was a great passer, but there's been 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:02.320 Cam Newton success who were elite passers and like truly 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.120 elite at both running and passing. That does this kind 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.800 of change the game at quarterback. But then if you 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.760 miss on that tier, you shouldn't be panicking like, oh, 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.440 I gotta get Kyler Murray, I got to get Baker Mayfield, 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:15.800 like guys in the middle where you should still let 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:19.080 them come to them come to you. But another dynamics 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:21.720 too is that people have just gotten so much smarter 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.120 and more sophisticated and savvier about drafting, even your home 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.280 league people. Or there were years Jayden and Daniels. Last 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.080 year this kind of did happen. Like dual threats though, 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.960 just don't usually fall like the eleventh or twelfth round anymore. 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.240 There's kind of no such thing as a sleeper, so 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.240 that's been another dynamic this year, justin fields is kind 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:42.960 of falling. But so yeah, the dual threats have broken away. 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.640 The sleepers don't fall nearly as far as they used to. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.640 So early round quarterback is back. But yes, if you miss, 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.480 if you miss on the breakaway tier, then don't force it. 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.120 Go old school late round quarterback. 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.800 Another member, another member of the muddled middle is, or 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.760 at least has been, Patrick Mahomes. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:01.960 I know, it's it's just devastation. 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:07.320 Was an elite fantasy producer for his first four seasons 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.560 as a starter, and over the last two years it's 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:14.280 been a detriment to draft Patrick Mahomes where he's been going. 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.320 And I think one of the bigger questions this year 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.840 is can he get back to that, you know, forty 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:25.040 touchdown sort of level of production. And you know, I 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.399 mean I was kind of optimistic about that. At one point, 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.720 Rashie Rice was coming back, looked like he was healthy. 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.199 Hollywood Brown is healthy, Xavier worthy as a chance to 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.479 take a second year leap. Kelsey is still a fairly 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:40.440 usable possession receiver. The offensive line looks really good, especially 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:45.960 with Josh Simmons already grabbing that first string left tackle spot. 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:50.000 But then Rashie Rice gets a suspension and or at 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.119 least a suspension is forthcoming, and so that kind of 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.639 threw a wrench that ken Patrick Mahomes be worth a 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.600 fifth round fantasy pick. He certainly hasn't been the last 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:00.240 two years. 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.080 No, he's been a disaster. He's been a league loser. 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.560 That was one of the topics I was going to 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:09.800 throw out is I do think I would take Mahomes 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.880 this year just for the simple fact of anyone that's 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:16.240 gotten drafted that highly year after year after year, you 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.000 can get him in the late fifth or sixth. 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.720 Now this is the year to do it. 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.800 And I do think there is something that is beyond 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:27.120 the numbers. That is the fact that he knows where 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:30.960 he's viewed and he's accepted like taking worse stats for 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:34.560 the team, But there is something about this season where 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.040 I think he's going to be motivated to have better stats, 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.280 and that is it's the best receiver group when they're 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.480 all healthy and Rahi Rice will be back presumably for 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.760 the fantasy playoffs when it really matters, and to me, 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:47.119 it's the best receiver group they've had. 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:48.320 I think Xavier Worthy. 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:51.160 Is underrated in fantasy leagues this year. And you mentioned 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.199 the offensive line. It's a really good offensive line, so 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:57.000 part of me doesn't want to overthink it too much. 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:02.119 I would rather have Mahomes in the fifties than Daniels 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.600 or Hurts probably or maybe even Lamar Josh Allen where 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.480 they are maybe not, but it is interesting these two guys, 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.879 both him and then Herbert, who's more of a QB 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.199 two pat But these two guys who are viewed as 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.840 top five or six NFL quarterbacks that aren't getting the 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:18.960 fantasy love this year. And I kind of like both 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.160 their offensive line, so to me, it is a year 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.800 to buy them, as opposed to the guys that you 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:25.919 mentioned in the middle. I was stunned to see Baker 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.880 Mayfield and bow Knicks as top eight fantasy quarterbacks. 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.480 They're fine, but I just this is not the year 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:32.919 to get them. 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:33.280 Baker. 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.800 I think it's just because he breaks the modern mold 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.480 in that he cares about more than efficiency. We're now 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.680 like everything's so optimized now the quarterbacks all they care 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.640 about is efficiency. They care about avoiding turnovers. He led 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.800 the league in touchdowns and interceptions, honestly, kind of a 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:51.480 great mix. Like he's taking chances, he's just chucking it 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.320 up there. I of course do not think. 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:54.080 He's going to repeat that. 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:57.119 I agree with you that I think we're going to 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.960