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Speaker 1: Game in July.

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Speaker 3: You can sorcery witchcraft.

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Speaker 5: Yeah no, it's all great, but and you can hit

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Speaker 1: Like right this year? What is your strategy over the years?

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Speaker 4: It has absolutely changed. I remember, you know, back in

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Speaker 4: And that was a winning strategy, whereas people just assume, oh,

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Speaker 4: I mean, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen should not get

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're talking a little bit about, you know,

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Speaker 5: the average drafts, but I tell you and these kids drafts,

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Speaker 1: So I feel like that's a good one.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, Lamar and Josh are going like late second

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Speaker 5: You just kind of took Lamar and Josh Allen and

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Speaker 5: and to me, like I feel much better about those

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Speaker 2: Well, first off, just real quick, let me say, in

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Speaker 2: I was the alpha. Was the I was the twenty

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Speaker 1: Areas of there, You're the funniest. You're the funniest.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that incorrect praise, but you truly

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Speaker 2: in the day at rotor world dot Com. Evan laid

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Speaker 2: but it's just like a variation of it. I would say,

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Speaker 2: I'm just in my home league, Like I don't want

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Speaker 2: an inconvenience. I don't need raising my kids and working

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Speaker 2: my job. That's another factor of early round quarterback. But

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Speaker 2: I gotta get Kyler Murray, I got to get Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 4: Another member, another member of the muddled middle is, or

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Speaker 4: And I think one of the bigger questions this year

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Speaker 1: No, he's been a disaster. He's been a league loser.

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Speaker 5: That was one of the topics I was going to

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Speaker 1: Now this is the year to do it.

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Speaker 1: I think Xavier Worthy.

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Speaker 5: Is underrated in fantasy leagues this year. And you mentioned

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Speaker 1: They're fine, but I just this is not the year

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Speaker 3: Baker.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just because he breaks the modern mold

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Speaker 3: He's going to repeat that.

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Speaker 5: Like I bet him at number two in the last

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Speaker 2: He wants to somehow get to seven. He knows he

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Speaker 5: I think he wants it. I think he wants to

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Speaker 4: Hollywood Brown. If those guys are healthy, like those guys

436
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Speaker 4: are deep ball receivers, So if he starts hitting the

437
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Speaker 4: deep ball, then I mean all bets are off.

438
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Speaker 5: Okay, So I'm looking at these ADPs and we'll move

439
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Speaker 5: on to running backs after this, not out you know,

440
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 5: outside him, after you get we get past Mahomes, here

441
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 5: are some average apposition guys. I kind of like Kyler

442
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 5: Murray as the QB nine. I'm still buying, don't get

443
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Speaker 5: you know, I'm buying that.

444
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Speaker 3: Kyler's only good in fantasy, So that's.

445
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Speaker 5: Right, But I think he could be even better Jared

446
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 5: Goffett at QB twelve if you are going to be

447
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 5: the one way to and you want to take a

448
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 5: chance on your other guy like I wouldn't. I wouldn't

449
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 5: hate a Jared goff at QB twelve and Anthony Richardson

450
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 5: at the end of your draft like that's fine with me.

451
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 5: I think goff is a nice, you know, safe piece

452
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,959
Speaker 5: of like tasty, you know, white bread and butter that

453
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 5: you're gonna that you're gonna enjoy in the end. Drake

454
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Speaker 5: May at QB eighteen, that's kind of intriguing to me.

455
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 5: Among the kind of the later qbs, it could be deep.

456
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 5: Like I said with Richardson, to me, Richardson is just

457
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 5: a good value play if if you're getting him at

458
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Speaker 5: the very end of your draft, I mean, I think

459
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Speaker 5: it's worth the shot. Give me a QB two or

460
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Speaker 5: outside the top eight qbs that you guys are drafting

461
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Speaker 5: and looking for.

462
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Speaker 4: For me, it's Justin Fields this year. And that's just

463
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Speaker 4: almost entirely because I think he's gonna run. They're gonna

464
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Speaker 4: run him like crazy, because that's the way that Justin

465
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Speaker 4: Fields would beat up on Aaron Glenn's defenses in Detroit.

466
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Speaker 4: I mean every time that they would play, Justin Fields

467
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 4: was running all over the Lions. Obviously Aaron Glenn was

468
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator. That now is the Jets head coach. I mean,

469
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Speaker 4: Justin Fields has a top six fantasy quarterback finish on

470
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Speaker 4: his Resume's only twenty six years old. During that top

471
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Speaker 4: six finish, he ran for eleven and forty three yards

472
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Speaker 4: and eight touchdowns. If he can be a twenty touchdown

473
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Speaker 4: pass guy and run for one thousand yards, which I

474
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Speaker 4: think is very much within his range of petrol outcomes,

475
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Speaker 4: Justin Field is gonna crush whatever his ADP is. I mean,

476
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Speaker 4: I don't care if it's quarterback eight, depending where you look,

477
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 4: quarterback twelve, he will crush that ADP.

478
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Evan, he could like win leagues, be three for

479
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: like twenty five touchdowns, like say, really exceeded expectations or

480
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: Fields is the obvious one. I'm in love with him too,

481
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: because he's the rare dual threat who is falling Dak

482
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Speaker 2: Prescott's around QB twelve. He could lead the league in

483
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 2: attempts like I feel, you know, MVP runner up two

484
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 2: years ago. Then some really low guys. I mean Michael Pennix.

485
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Speaker 2: If he's like an attempts or a quarterback stat guy,

486
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Speaker 2: he could way out produce Q one even Tua. I

487
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: will say QB twenty two, Oh, I love QB. I

488
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: love to QB twenty two. There's gonna be yards there.

489
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Speaker 2: I know it's like they'll play greg last year, like

490
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Speaker 2: the twenty twelve to twenty fourteen Peyton Manning offense. Well, like,

491
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 2: never throw it deep, Just throw it one million times

492
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: over the middle as quickly and accurately as possible and

493
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Speaker 2: stack up your stats that way.

494
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Speaker 3: So even that, I think even two was an interesting one.

495
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and their schedule in general, like the AFC East

496
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 5: schedule last year was hard all around, and this year

497
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 5: it's easy all around. I think we'll put a pin

498
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Speaker 5: in that when we talk receivers, because I think their

499
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 5: receivers are are undervalued because because there's gonna there's gonna

500
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Speaker 5: be yards there. All right, let's get to running backs.

501
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Speaker 5: But before that, let's take a quick break. Oh, it's

502
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Speaker 5: Silva season. I mean it's Rodopath seasons. But I feel

503
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 5: like I feel like you kind of get the same

504
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 5: pad all year.

505
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Speaker 1: He loves he loves his football. But Silva is like.

506
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 5: A machine that you just unplug him from January to August.

507
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 5: It's just not the same. Now he's plugged back in

508
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 5: and he's feeling life. Let's talk running back, Silva. I

509
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 5: feel like these are where the biggest mistakes happen.

510
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: It's where leagues are are.

511
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Speaker 4: One.

512
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Speaker 5: I still feel like the position gets pushed up too much,

513
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 5: but I get wise strategy wise, when you look at

514
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 5: kind of the big two or three at the top,

515
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 5: I guess this year is Saquan, you know, Bijon and Gibbs,

516
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 5: and Bijon said that's how that's how his name is

517
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 5: really pronounced, rhymes with djon.

518
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Speaker 1: That's your top three there.

519
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 5: The next group is is Derek Henry, the big dog

520
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 5: back in first rounds Like Silva had all along, he

521
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 5: never he never gave up on Henry and.

522
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: Was incredibly right last year.

523
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 5: CMCs back there with a little a little further in

524
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Speaker 5: the first round, Ashton genty, maybe Devon eighth Chan is

525
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 5: like sneaking into first round. So they're still going high

526
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Speaker 5: and they're still going in the second round. Are the

527
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Speaker 5: running backs back and kind of give me your overall

528
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 5: like view of the position and who are some of

529
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 5: your favorites of the time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the way that you described it was perfect.

531
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Speaker 4: I mean, for a guy who's retired from fantasy football,

532
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 4: you summed it up real nicely there, Greg Rosenthal. That

533
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 4: is this is where leagues are won and lost, no question,

534
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 4: you know. It's it's a position where you know you're

535
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 4: hoping that you're hope, you are literally hoping that the

536
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 4: player you draft gets runs into three hundred car crashes,

537
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 4: is able to run into three hundred car crashes over

538
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 4: the course of you know, seventeen Sundays and makes it

539
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 4: out alive, you know, because that's what these guys are doing.

540
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley last year, including playoffs, had four hundred and

541
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Speaker 4: eighty two touches the last run.

542
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Speaker 1: Worried. I'm a little worried. I'm the only person that's

543
00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: a little worried. I feel.

544
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Speaker 4: There's also Jamir Gibbs and Bijon Robinson. They were born

545
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 4: like a month or two apart. They are both five

546
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 4: years younger than Saquon Barkley. Okay, so for me, there's

547
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 4: just enough risk and I have them all in the

548
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 4: same tier, and I have them all as top six picks,

549
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 4: but I have Saquon Barkley at the end of that tier,

550
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 4: and I have Gibbs and Bijon a top it. Right now,

551
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: I have Gibbs number one. Now people will say, oh,

552
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 4: but we can't find the workload projection for him because

553
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 4: David Montgomery's coming back. I think that the Lions, they

554
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: have one of the toughest schedules in the league. They

555
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 4: lost both of their coordinators. I don't think they're going

556
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 4: to be as dominant as they have been in previous years.

557
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 4: I think they're still going to be a really good

558
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 4: team ten and seven or something like that, but not

559
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 4: like a thirteen or fourteen win team, and they're going

560
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: to be in more competitive games. And their new coordinator,

561
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 4: John Morton, is going to streamline the offense and he's

562
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 4: going to have to play his best players in more

563
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 4: competitive situations. And I think that by the end of

564
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: the year we'll be talking about Jim Gives is the

565
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 4: best running back in football.

566
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Speaker 2: I love that take from Evan. I also think that

567
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: dovetails with Greg's Jared Goff take where I'm definitely expecting

568
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: like a bit of the Lions fall off and where

569
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: just they're gonna have to really pump up Jared Goff's

570
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: attempts probably a level higher than they're really comfortable with.

571
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: So I love that take on the Lions, And to me,

572
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: running back this year writ large, it's it's definitely as

573
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: back as it's been in a while, where it almost

574
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 2: seems like the running back aging curve has been obliterated

575
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: or there's at least balance restored, or there's still an

576
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: aging curve. But like in the eighties, nineties, seventies, the

577
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: truly elite backs like last beyond the aging curve and

578
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: are productive into their early thirties. Because it was getting

579
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: kind of strange ten or fifteen years ago, like twenty

580
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: seven to twenty eight was like a hard ceiling at

581
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: running back and it's almost like, as the game changed

582
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: so much, and is it just too much of a

583
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: young man's game now? Turns out no, the Hall of

584
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: Fame level talents can still produce into their early thirties.

585
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: And this year run back this feels so much better

586
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: because you know, last year it was perceived to be

587
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: a bad running back draft class aside from Bucky Irving

588
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: that was very much born out in fantasy football. This

589
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 2: year is so much deeper. There's so many more like

590
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: second to fourth round picks who are projecting for maybe

591
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: immediate committee roles with the upside for more. So it's

592
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: just a deeper player playing pool and that the older

593
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: guys are producing longer and we got a much needed

594
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: talent infusion on the young end. I feel like this

595
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: year running backs, so it's a deeper player pool running.

596
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 5: Back, that's true, and yet I don't want any of

597
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 5: these second round running backs I don't think. Like to me,

598
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 5: it's a huge drop off from that big six we

599
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 5: just talked about to begin with, which is Saqua and

600
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 5: Bijon Gibbs, Henry McCaffrey, who you know, obviously there's a risk,

601
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 5: but it's football. If you can get c you know,

602
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 5: if you can get McCaffrey at the end, you know,

603
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 5: anywhere in your first round, I'm just gonna take my

604
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 5: chance and do it. Ashton Genty too is in that

605
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 5: group for me, And then it's like, man, you're talking

606
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 5: about I know, Devonhchan like per snap and.

607
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of questions.

608
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 5: At some point, I think I got to go with

609
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 5: like I think, being like a great football player that's

610
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 5: extremely consistent matters a lot, and Josh Jacobs has had.

611
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: An up and down career.

612
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 5: Ah Chan, I don't know, Like Bucky Irving's a good player,

613
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 5: but I'm not putting him in that category. When you're

614
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 5: comparing these guys and Jonathan Taylor and maybe Chase Brown's

615
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 5: in that mex too, And so these are the second

616
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 5: round guys, you're comparing these to some of the best

617
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 5: players in all of football, these wide receivers and even

618
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 5: throwing Lamar and Josh Allen. That to me, I would

619
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 5: just much rather have on my fantasy team going into

620
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 5: the year than any of these guys. So if you

621
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 5: don't wind up with the you know, one of the

622
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 5: great running backs that you know in your first round,

623
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 5: because it just doesn't happen that way. Like, I'm cool

624
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 5: just waiting and loading up at receiver and running back

625
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 5: because you're right there are there are then some pretty

626
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 5: intriguing maybe third, fourth, fifth round guys. I'll go to

627
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 5: you first with this one, Pat Like, who is a third, fourth,

628
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 5: fifth round guy or two that you like?

629
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: Well, I'll just say I do love Bucky so much.

630
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: I know he's undersized, but such a rare rookie combination.

631
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 5: But you're just paying for full value from the nine

632
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 5: incredible games he had, so he has to just do

633
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 5: that or else or else. Like there's like, to me,

634
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 5: he's getting taken away before, like a Lad McConkie, for instance.

635
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 5: You can't like, Ladi McConkie is not gonna have a

636
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 5: bad season. He's just he's just he's such a no.

637
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: He's not.

638
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: But it was such a rare rookie combination of efficiency

639
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: and actual production. The two games that mattered most, he

640
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: out touched Rashad White forty to three. We're kind of

641
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: like what Evan was saying, what the Lions might have

642
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: to do with Jamiir Gibbs. The Bucks just had to

643
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: admit Bucky Irving was better than Rashad White in Week

644
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: eighteen in the wild card round and ride him. They

645
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: want Rashad White to still be involved, but I think

646
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: Rashad White will be a luxury for when they're like

647
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: dictating the pace of play and know if it's winning time,

648
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: if the game is competitive, they're going have to really

649
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: lean on Bucky.

650
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Speaker 3: I mean the mid rounds.

651
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: I mean, O'maron Hampton was a guy the fantasy community

652
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: already loved before the Nija Harris situation became the weirdest

653
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: situation in fantasy football.

654
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 5: Wait, why is he going in the fourth round? And

655
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 5: that was in like I said, I don't look at

656
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 5: these numbers, and then I look at him right before

657
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 5: a show like this and it does hit me in

658
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 5: a different way than you. To me, that was one

659
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 5: of the most surprising things. If I had seen him

660
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 5: at overall eighteen, RB eleven, I would have been like, oh, yeah,

661
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 5: that makes sense. Everyone loves like a totally complete beast

662
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 5: of a rookie running back with a great quarterback like

663
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 5: that would have checked out to me. And instead he's

664
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 5: down in the forties or something, So sign me up

665
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 5: for Marion Hampton.

666
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care about Naja Harris.

667
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: This is probably just an ADP artifact too, isn't it, Evan,

668
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: Where like the post Naji injury, reality hasn't really caught up.

669
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean in the draft that I do on,

670
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 4: Marion Hampton does not get out of the third round, okay,

671
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 4: and that's where he belongs. I think you can make

672
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 4: an argument that he belongs on the the two three

673
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 4: turn I have him as the RB twelve overall. The

674
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: thing that can see you guys talked about Bert Bucky

675
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: Irving earlier. The thing that concerns me about Bucky Irving

676
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: is Tristan Worf's injury. If you look, I mean, he's

677
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 4: maybe the best, He's one of the best players in

678
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 4: the NFL, not just left tackles, and if you look

679
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 4: back at the history of premier tackles in the league,

680
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 4: and like they're on and off splits when they're at

681
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 4: like Lane Johnson's on and off splits when he's out

682
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: and when he's in huge difference for the Eagles in

683
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 4: terms of production. Trent Williams in San Francisco. Remember how

684
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: Jason Garrett's offenses in Dallas would completely fall apart whenever

685
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: Tyrone Smith would be out, Like they couldn't they couldn't

686
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 4: deal with it, They couldn't make any adjustments, you know.

687
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 4: But I mean that Tristan Wurf's is on those guys level.

688
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 4: And that's the big concern that I have with Bucky Irving.

689
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 4: Not necessarily he's way better than Rashad White, you know,

690
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: and I do think that Rashad White is going to

691
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 4: cut into his stuff a little bit. But the Tristan

692
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 4: Worf's injury kind of scares me really for everyone in

693
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 4: the Tampa offense.

694
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, and we've learned this over the years.

695
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 5: It is unpredictable. It could be one where you don't

696
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 5: want to overreact too much. Like if Dresin Wurths is

697
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 5: out there in Week three, which seems like a totally reasonable,

698
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 5: you know scenario, then no harm, no foul when it

699
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 5: really matters, who are are some of the guys, Evan,

700
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 5: you're finding outside maybe the top ten that you're drafting

701
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 5: quite a bit this year.

702
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 4: See, I love Chase Brown, and you know, he was

703
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: a guy who was a workhorse at Illinois, and then

704
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 4: he came into the league. In his first year, he

705
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 4: was like sort of pigeonholed as a guy that was

706
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 4: like maybe like a niche back. But then we saw

707
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 4: last year that he could be that extreme workhorse that

708
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 4: he was at Illinois, and he averaged over the final

709
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 4: eight games for the Bengals, he averaged twenty four touches

710
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: per game, for over one hundred and sixteen total yards

711
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 4: per game, and almost a touchdown per game. And I'm

712
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 4: really buying the Bengals offense that they're just gonna score

713
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 4: a ton of points. They just cut Zack Moss, so

714
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: it's gonna be Chase Brown, and then samaj p Rn,

715
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 4: who's a player that he'll see the field a little bit,

716
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: but they don't like try to get him the ball,

717
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 4: and then TODJ. Brooks. I think there's a decent late

718
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 4: sleeper for you, the sixth round pick, Todje Brooks. But

719
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 4: Chase Brown is a guy that I think actually belongs

720
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 4: in the second round and certainly should not be getting

721
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 4: out of the third round.

722
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 5: I'll buy that as a guy who's gonna have a

723
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 5: ton of receiving value, Like I might rather have him

724
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 5: than Hn, certainly for the price, but just in general

725
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 5: on that offense.

726
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: It just feel like a little safer just that he's

727
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: gonna last.

728
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 5: I'm with you some other guys that where they're at

729
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 5: I was intrigued by, like James Cook really isn't getting

730
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 5: that pop off after all those touchdowns. I know it's

731
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 5: a good backfield there, but to me, he's just a

732
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 5: great eight football player. He's really good and on a

733
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 5: great team, and I know the situation isn't perfect, but

734
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 5: wherever he's going, I'm I think I'm gonna be fine

735
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 5: with it James Connor, like, I buy what they're selling

736
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 5: that he's just gonna get almost all the workload there,

737
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 5: and then, uh, I'm not giving up on my guy Remandre.

738
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 5: You know he's down there in the in the deep thirties.

739
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 5: I'd rather have him than Travion Henderson.

740
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 4: I don't.

741
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 5: I don't get quite buying Traveon Henderson as a rookie

742
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 5: back who I think is gonna have a somewhat limited

743
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 5: role there, and he's getting taken as like the RB

744
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 5: twenty five Pat, do you have some guys you're trying

745
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 5: to stay away from?

746
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: Well, real quick on Remandre. Let's say what worries me

747
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: any of those? What will worries me is Josh me Daniels.

748
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: I feel like his guys type of guy. Remondre's not

749
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: his guy. Travion was way Why isn't he his guy?

750
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: Didn't he play great under Josh mcdana. Oh my god,

751
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: I forget his fifth tour of duty in New England.

752
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: But he came in and what's the first thing he

753
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: tells them to do?

754
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 4: A draft?

755
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: A second round running back?

756
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: That's fair. It's just he's so deep.

757
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 5: He's a guy that you know what is getting taken

758
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 5: so high that like, if he's your RB four, that

759
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 5: sounds crazy to me.

760
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: Very quickly too.

761
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara finishes the RB five by average PPR points

762
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: last year, it's like the RB eighteen or nineteen. He's

763
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: like Mike Evans. Every year no one wants to draft

764
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: him because he's old. Then every year his team doesn't

765
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: have a better idea. The Saints don't have a better

766
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: idea than giving Alvin Kamara the ball. You know, way

767
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 2: too many times, way too many receptions. DeAndre Swift is

768
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: a guy who literally his entire career.

769
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 3: Has been like one long fantasy disappointment.

770
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 2: You don't want him, you're saying no, I'm saying you

771
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 2: never do until now, because truly, what do they have

772
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: beyond DeAndre Swift? Like Roshawn Johnson, I feel like is

773
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: not going to be a huge concern for DeAndre. He's

774
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: a guy who's disappointed fantasy managers so many times. Or

775
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: I feel like it can maybe finally happen this year

776
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: for DeAndre Swift.

777
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: Who do I not want?

778
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 2: I mean Joe Mixon of course become a rather radioactive.

779
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 5: I even wanted Joe Mixon anyways, I don't want Brice Hall.

780
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 5: That's another guy that I want.

781
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: Just I know Brice. I was like, listen, he's better

782
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: than Braylan Allen. There's no way it's gonna be a

783
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: three man backfield. I will be a two man backfield.

784
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: But the brail and drum drumbeat refuses to cease, and

785
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: it is becoming concerning for Breeshall, who, yeah, is veteran

786
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: fantasy in real life, let's put it that way, and

787
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: hasn't even been that great in fantasy of late, So

788
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: it's getting a little late early for Breesaw.

789
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 4: If we're moving into the later rounds. There are three

790
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 4: rookies that I think that stand out. One of them

791
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 4: is Cam Skataboo Giants. Now I'm concerned that the Giants

792
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 4: are going to stink, that they might end up playing

793
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 4: starting three different quarterbacks over the course of the season.

794
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 4: And Tyrone Tracy is good. I mean, he's not going

795
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 4: to go away, but Cam Scataboo is built to capitalize

796
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 4: on high value touches. He can play in the passing game,

797
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 4: and he's going to be the guy at the goal

798
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 4: line over Tyrone Tracy. He's an awesome football player. I

799
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 4: know he runs four to six or whatever, But he

800
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 4: is an awesome football player. I think anybody that has

801
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: seen him play even a little bit knows that that

802
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: dude is awesome at football. I think that a guy

803
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: who might not be as good at football but is

804
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 4: in a great situation has some Devont eight chan in him.

805
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 4: Is Jayden Blue of Dallas, who's started to generate some

806
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 4: positive buzz. You've got Miles Sanders there, you got Javonte

807
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 4: Williams there. You know, Pat mentioned the possibility that the

808
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: Cowboys could lead the NFL in pass attempts. Like that's

809
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 4: Jayden Blues game. He had forty two catches last year,

810
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy six touches, scored fourteen touchdowns on

811
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy six touches, hyper efficient, good in

812
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: the passing game runs four three, eight at five nine,

813
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 4: two hundred. Really sexy situation for Jayden Blue.

814
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah.

815
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 5: One of the more surprising things I saw on the

816
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 5: ADP that was Davante was where Javonte Williams is going,

817
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 5: and that he was going ahead of Miles Sanders. For

818
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 5: what it's worth, I wouldn't want either, but Miles Sanders

819
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 5: is going to be the starter there. It sounds like

820
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 5: by all accounts in that Javonte doesn't look great, but

821
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 5: I'm with you, Jayden Blue would be more exciting. Brashard

822
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 5: Smith for like a really deep league or very end

823
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 5: of the draft would not surprise me at all if

824
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 5: he is the Kansas City Chiefs, like primary receiving back

825
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 5: this year, has a lot of juice, like Pacheco showed

826
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 5: as a seventh rounder, like you could matter pretty quickly

827
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 5: in that offense. So he's kind of fun to me.

828
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 5: And then just looking at some of the team situations like, yeah,

829
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 5: I was surprised too that Etn is still going that

830
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 5: high because your boy, I remember you love Tank Pigsby.

831
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 5: A couple of years ago, you were right on Silva.

832
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 5: It's still gonna, I think, be the RB one there,

833
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 5: and I wouldn't worry about b Shelton. I probably would

834
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 5: avoid the whole thing, but if you're taking one, I

835
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 5: would take take Bigsby.

836
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: Two more super quick names, Greg mid Round. I love

837
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 2: Jordan Mason. Actually it's only been super efficient. They basically

838
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 2: annointed him as the goal line back. I think they're

839
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: gonna not pass nearly as much as they have, or

840
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 2: if people are expecting right. I've just not really liked

841
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: the JJ McCarthy smoke signals, although they could be.

842
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 5: I mean, I love me some Jordan Mason last year

843
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 5: I actually did draft him along with CMC.

844
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: Saved my season.

845
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: So Jordan Mason and then late I do like Woody

846
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: Marx in the later rounds, even though he could just

847
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: be like a committee like pass catcher guy. Just the

848
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: mixing signs are not great. I mean, Nick Chubb, they're

849
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: already coming out like listen, he's not the same, but

850
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: he's real tough and like you know, that's not great

851
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: the tone with Nick Chubb and pretty bullish for Woody Mark.

852
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 4: Woody Marks had two hundred and sixty one catches in

853
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 4: his college career. Wow.

854
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: Interesting.

855
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 5: Okay, So yeah, Texan's running back and I don't know

856
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 5: what's going on there because yeah, I've heard the same

857
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 5: things of Chubb not looking great. I think mixing it's

858
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 5: extremely concerning that he might never like to me, he's

859
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 5: on and do not draftless like period, just because he

860
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 5: might not be the same guy or be able to

861
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 5: stay healthy.

862
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're going to do.

863
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 5: They might be someone that looks aroun round at the

864
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 5: trade deadline or even after a trade dead Yeah. Right,

865
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 5: let's let's look at the wide receiver. So, yeah, I

866
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 5: gave away my strategy earlier. Is you know, I I

867
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 5: feel like if you have, if you took three receivers

868
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 5: in your first four rounds, still, I don't know. I

869
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 5: feel better about that. I feel good about that. Like

870
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 5: the top ten receivers, they're just so there's so money

871
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 5: in general, however you want to shake him up, Like

872
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 5: right now, Chase is going first overall in some leagues,

873
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 5: and that's fine. I don't see a particularly crazy difference

874
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 5: between him and Lamb and Jefferson and Pooka really So however,

875
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 5: whatever order, I'm not going to have like a super

876
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 5: hot take. But when you're getting to like a Nico

877
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 5: Collins and Brian Thomas Junior and A J. Brown are

878
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 5: are towards the bottom of the top ten, it's like, man,

879
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 5: I am going to be happy coming away with AJ

880
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 5: Brown specifically, Like I think he is going to have

881
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 5: an outstate and in season and this is a relative

882
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 5: by low for him, and I'm just gonna feel better

883
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 5: taking these guys pretty much through the first three or

884
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 5: four rounds than I am taking those rounds two, three,

885
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 5: four running backs.

886
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: But that's me.

887
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 5: Have you have you kind of changed on that viewpoint,

888
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 5: Silva and like, where are you looking towards the top

889
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 5: of the draft.

890
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean at one overall and at two overall,

891
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 4: I tend to lean running back.

892
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: I still would take those three running backs over any receiver.

893
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, but I you know, a lot of people

894
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 4: take Jamar Chase one overall, as you mentioned, and I

895
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 4: understand it. I think that Cedee Lamb could outscore Jamar Chase.

896
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 4: You know, the last time that Dak Prescott was healthy

897
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three, ced Lamb was the number one

898
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 4: overall receiver in fantasy. And again going back to that

899
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,959
Speaker 4: expectation that the Cowboys are going to throw the crap

900
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 4: out of the ball, that would be good for CD Lamb.

901
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 4: I'm with you on Brian Thomas. He's my highest drafted

902
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 4: first round player in the back end of the first round.

903
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 4: I think that by the end of the year we

904
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: could be talking about him as the best receiver in football.

905
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 4: Last year, he was number six in yards per route run.

906
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 4: Kind of the best advanced metric just if you just

907
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 4: want one advanced metric for wide receivers is yards per

908
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 4: route run. As a rookie at age twenty two, Brian

909
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: Thomas was sixth in the NFL in yards per route run,

910
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 4: catching passes for half the season from Mac Jones in

911
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 4: a Doug Peterson offense where you know, Doug Peterson is

912
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 4: out of the league because the league kind of passed

913
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 4: him by, And now he's got Liam Cohen who under

914
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: Liam Cohen. Last year, Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, both

915
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: that advanced ages, had their best yards per route run

916
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 4: season of their entire careers. So I think that Liam

917
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 4: Cohen is a really really big deal for him. I

918
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 4: think a Trevor Lawrence could have the best season of

919
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 4: his career. I expect him to have the best year

920
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 4: of his career, and he's going to carry Brian Thomas

921
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 4: along with him. Actually, Brian Thomas might be carrying Trevor

922
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 4: Lawrence along with him.

923
00:44:59,640 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

924
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 5: I mean, if Doug Peterson is a fan of the

925
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 5: show Silva and he's watching this and he just hurt hears,

926
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 5: like a classic withering Silva takedown that the league has

927
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 5: passed them by, Like, how do you think that's going

928
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 5: to make him feel?

929
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: Doug was a crazy case where that he was super

930
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: ahead of the curve on like two things, and then

931
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: the rest of the league really caught up really fast,

932
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: and Doug was like, I don't have a third idea.

933
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 5: Actually it's a great like you're making a joke on

934
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 5: some level, but it's an outstanding football point over who

935
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 5: becomes legendary, especially as coaches and who doesn't Like a

936
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 5: lot of coaches have one or two moves. And then

937
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 5: Brandon Staley's like, no, well, this is the defense I coach,

938
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 5: and everyone's like yeah, but everyone's adapted to that, like

939
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 5: what's your next move?

940
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: You have to keep changing, and.

941
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 5: Like McVeigh, his old boss is a great example of that,

942
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 5: Like he is always evolving, always adapting.

943
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: You got to have multiple ideas.

944
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 5: Speaking of which you mentioned yards per route run, Silva,

945
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 5: I mean put Gonna CooA last year of ranks among

946
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 5: the greatest receivers of all time. I for his first

947
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 5: two seasons he is like maybe the greatest receiver of

948
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 5: all time yards per route run.

949
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: So I'm not.

950
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 5: That worried about DeVante getting there impact to him, So

951
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 5: he like he's another option. Like pretty much in the

952
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 5: middle of the first round, who you taking Pat in

953
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 5: general anywhere, go anywhere you want in the in the

954
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 5: first like thirty forty picks that are on a lot

955
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 5: of PAT teams.

956
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: Well, I'll say, my in general take on wide receiver,

957
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: by the way, is that you're absolutely right about like

958
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: the top ten or I would say even twelve wide

959
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: receivers were a really deep wide receiver one crop. Then

960
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: beyond that, though, I feel like this is a year

961
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: I've never had a year where I didn't like where

962
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 2: every ADP.

963
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: Looks bad to me.

964
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: Really yeah, I'm like, oh, T Higgins, we're doing T

965
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: Higgins wide receiver thirteen again. Huh.

966
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: Okay, that that I agree with that, I agree with

967
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: all right, let's go through them.

968
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 3: We're doing that yet again. Huh. Like Wow, Marvin Harrison,

969
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 3: we're doing that yet again.

970
00:46:59,560 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: Huh.

971
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm with that. Where he is at the forty spot,

972
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm good with that.

973
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: That's Marvin Harrison, who's innovation was to get slower and

974
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: bigger after his disappointing rookie year.

975
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 5: He wasn't that that bad, and uh, it's all about value.

976
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 5: Now he's going like three rounds later, two rounds later.

977
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 5: I'm good with that one, all right, getting more so.

978
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: Many like JSN, who I actually like, I didn't like,

979
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: starting to like he's the wide receiver seventeen, which I

980
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: really like Jayson. Every sign though out of Seahawks camp

981
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 2: is like, we're never passing the ball again.

982
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I bet he's the best guy on the

983
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 5: team by far, so I'm okay with it.

984
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: They let him play like a true inside out game.

985
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: I'd be excited about Jayson again. But like Terry mclaurin's

986
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: the wide receiver eighteen or she Rice the wide receiver nineteen,

987
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: Mike Evans undead zombie wide receiver.

988
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: Twenty, I don't mind that one.

989
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy, who I like like it's a lot of

990
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 2: projection to be the wide receiver twenty one, Tedoroa McMillan

991
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 2: sight unseen wide receiver twenty two with your guy.

992
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 5: Don't like, don't like that one, don't like that one,

993
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 5: I like any any wide receiver ADP.

994
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 3: Someone mentions to me, I'm like, oh, I don't I

995
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 3: don't like him there, And it's interesting.

996
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: I'm not loving the feel, the overall feel, and I

997
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: hate the word vibe, but the vibe the receiver This year.

998
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 5: I feel better about most of those guys. I think

999
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 5: Worthy has a sneaky high ceiling. I guess I'm looking

1000
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 5: fantasy pros Ashim, you know, wide receiver twenty five for

1001
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 5: what it's worth in the fifties somewhere. I mean, he

1002
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 5: doesn't have a lot To me, he doesn't have a

1003
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 5: lot of heat, considering he you know, was their best

1004
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 5: receiver by far down the stretch and like it's racking up.

1005
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 5: I count those catches in the super Bowl. He had

1006
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 5: seventy five yards before that fourth quarter in the Super

1007
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 5: Bowl too. He was he was the man there. Like

1008
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 5: Garrett Wilson's going fairly late, DeVante Adams is going fairly late.

1009
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 5: And I think I'm buying DeVante Adams and then outside

1010
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 5: the top ten. And I'm curious, curious what you think

1011
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 5: about these two guys, Silva, Like, to me, Lad McConkie

1012
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 5: and Tyreek Hill have wide receiver one or two upside,

1013
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 5: like I don't.

1014
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that's that crazy.

1015
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 5: And that's that's where I'm talking about, Like, man receiver

1016
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 5: seems pretty deep if they're going as like eleven and twelve,

1017
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 5: like both of those guys to me could have monster seasons.

1018
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 4: Back to yards per route run. Lad McConkie. As a rookie,

1019
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 4: finished fourth in the NFL in yards per route run,

1020
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 4: and over a seventeen game span including playoffs, he had

1021
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 4: ninety one catches for one thousand and thirty one thousand

1022
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 4: and three hundred and forty six yards and eight touchdowns.

1023
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 4: And I think that the arrow is still pointing up

1024
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 4: on him. Tyreek Hill scares me, and he's one of

1025
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 4: the you know, the biggest like conundrums of the fantasy

1026
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 4: football season. If you read Matt Harmon's recent reception perception

1027
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 4: breakdown of Tyreek Hill, I mean it would put the

1028
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: fear of God in you. I mean Matt Harmon is, like,

1029
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 4: this is clearly a player in decline. He's got issues

1030
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 4: with Tua. I mean Tua even like addressed that again

1031
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 4: recently at the start of training camp that like we

1032
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 4: have to repair our relationship. I mean, Tyreek Hill is

1033
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 4: thirty one years old. You know, everything still looks pretty

1034
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 4: good on paper. I mean this is super condensed offense.

1035
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 4: They're going to throw the ball and Tyreek Hill what

1036
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 4: he ran like a super fast one hundred yard dash

1037
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 4: or one hundred meters dash or whatever recently, he still

1038
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 4: has straight line speed. I say, you know, he definitely

1039
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 4: still has straight line speed. I mean, Darryl Green was

1040
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 4: Guys that are fast keep their speed. DeShawn Jackson was

1041
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 4: still fast for forever. Daryl Green was winning the fastest

1042
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 4: man contests at the Pro Bowl, which, by the way,

1043
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 4: can we bring that back please? At like age forty

1044
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 4: three years old. Guys that are fast stay fast. Like

1045
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 4: I know that Tyreek Kill can still run fast in

1046
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 4: a straight line. It's all the other stuff. He was

1047
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 4: not winning against coverage. He was not winning his routes

1048
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 4: nearly as often last years as he has historically.

1049
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 5: He admitted and has said it many times this offseason

1050
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 5: that he wasn't trying his hardest last year, that he

1051
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 5: came in out of shape.

1052
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: It was all this stuff.

1053
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 5: And usually I really don't buy into too many offseason narratives.

1054
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 5: But this is a guy who's had four or five

1055
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 5: first team All Pros, that's gonna be in the Hall

1056
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 5: of Fame one day.

1057
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: That he look he's always played at a high level.

1058
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 5: But he knows his chance for one last big contract

1059
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 5: is this year. It's a contract year for him. It's

1060
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 5: very likely his last one in Miami. He wants to

1061
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 5: get back to Kansas City. I just think there's gonna

1062
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 5: be yards there with Tua. To me, I am buying

1063
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 5: the narrative that it's just you're gonna get the best

1064
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 5: out of Tyreek Hill, and last year was a little

1065
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 5: bit more of like an effort and conditioning thing, and

1066
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 5: that makes sense. If you're watching on YouTube, we thank you,

1067
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 5: by the way, and we hope you subscribe and leave

1068
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,520
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1069
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 5: helps us out. But if you are watching on YouTube,

1070
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 5: you'll notice that Rodo Pat just ducked out like the

1071
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 5: heat was too much for him. Frankly, like me, getting

1072
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 5: back in the fantasy arena was making him feel a

1073
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 5: little less then. I think also with his old boss Silva,

1074
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 5: because in theory, I was his boss. But pretty quickly

1075
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 5: by the time Pat was there, I was I was

1076
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 5: doing PFT.

1077
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 4: And I thought that I hired him.

1078
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Speaker 1: Maybe you did.

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Speaker 5: I'm probably just I was still I was still there,

1080
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 5: I was still at NBC. I was like in an

1081
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 5: overseer role. But you're absolutely right, Silva was the.

1082
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: One who hired him. Got it done and what a job.

1083
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 5: But no, Pat's Pat's internet apparently went out, So we're

1084
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 5: gonna we're gonna finish this thing off.

1085
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: We're right at the end.

1086
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 5: Anyways, I'm going to give you a list of guys

1087
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 5: I think are too high, Silva, and you let me

1088
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 5: know and then tell me some guys you think are

1089
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 5: too t Higgins I agree with I agree with pat

1090
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 5: On that one or she Rice just I just would

1091
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 5: rather get worthy and not deal with the suspension. T

1092
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 5: mac Tetsuo McMillan. It just that it's there's a lot

1093
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 5: of ifs there. Cooper Cup not buying it, feel like

1094
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 5: a wasted pick. Chris godwindin this year kind of feels

1095
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 5: like a wasted pick. Just don't want to don't want

1096
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 5: to deal with it. Stefan Diggs, Jack Besh. Those are

1097
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 5: a couple other guys that feel like wasted picks for me,

1098
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 5: and then some of the later guys like Davante. I'm

1099
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 5: buying a little bit of a Davante rebound. I'm interested

1100
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 5: in Travis Hunner at the price that he's going at.

1101
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,479
Speaker 5: And then maybe the guy I would draft the most

1102
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 5: at this very moment in the entire NFL Silva is

1103
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 5: rashid Jihead because because to me, I think he has

1104
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 5: like pretty clear top twenty top twenty five fantasy receiver upside,

1105
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 5: maybe even floor if he's healthy in a bigger role

1106
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 5: coming to him. And so I'm taking Rashid Jaheat who's

1107
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 5: going like wide receiver fifty or something.

1108
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: Totally. You can say.

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00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 4: Dogs T Higgins so hard. I mean, roto Pat even

1110
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 4: said T Higgins ADP wide receiver thirteen. What are we doing?

1111
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: He said, we're doing this again where I have.

1112
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 4: T Higgins ranked at wide receiver thirteen.

1113
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 3: Well, as you may have noticed, I did that and

1114
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 3: then I just disappeared.

1115
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 4: When T Higgins and Jamar Chase were on the field

1116
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 4: together last year, T Higgins had more targets than Jamar Chase.

1117
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: Well, Evan, the problem is what you hit the phrase

1118
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 2: they're on the field together, which they just never are

1119
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: because he's always hurt, I mean, no matter what. And

1120
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: now he got paid, he's I feel like he's a classic.

1121
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 4: Times sample of them being on the field together and

1122
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 4: T Higgins had one hundred and seven targets and Jamar

1123
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 4: Chase had one hundred and six. A guy that I

1124
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 4: love this year, and I'm getting a lot of pushback

1125
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 4: from the nerds that we employ at Established the Run.

1126
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 4: They hate this guy. Because they can't fit anything into

1127
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 4: their spreadsheets. And if they can't fit it into their spreadsheets,

1128
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 4: then they can't do it.

1129
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: They don't know ball. Frankly, they just don't know ball.

1130
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 4: You know, you know who's good at ball is Ricky Pearsall. Ricky.

1131
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 4: And also the floodgates are kind of opening form the

1132
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 4: Caesar parting for Ricky Pearsall. We've got Juwan Jenny dealing

1133
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 4: with injuries and a contract dispute, Deebo Samuel is gone,

1134
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 4: and Brandon Ayuk, I mean, I don't know when he's

1135
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 4: coming back. And Ricky Pearsall was a first round pick

1136
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 4: in the draft. I think they drafted him to eventually

1137
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 4: replace Deebo Samuel, Which that's a really fun fantasy role.

1138
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 4: If he can even be eighty percent of what Deebo

1139
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 4: Samuel was, Ricky Pearsall is going to crush. And again,

1140
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 4: if you read Matt Harmon's reception perception on Ricky Pearsall

1141
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 4: over the last month of the season, this guy got

1142
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 4: shot last year. Okay, he literally got shot and missed

1143
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 4: like everything, he finally gets it together, gets it together,

1144
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 4: gets healthy, and he crushed against man coverage down the stretch.

1145
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 4: So if you can give me eighty percent of Deebo

1146
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 4: Samuel and a guy who wins against man coverage, with

1147
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 4: all this opportunity in a Kyle Shanahan offense, with Brock

1148
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 4: Purty coming off maybe the most underrated quarterback season in

1149
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 4: the NFL, I think Ricky Pearsall can be an absolute

1150
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 4: smash as like a seventh round pick.

1151
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: You convinced me I'm in all right, pat are you?

1152
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 4: Are you?

1153
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: Are you doing okay? Yeah?

1154
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 5: By the way, Piersall is going like in the wide

1155
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 5: receiver forty forty five territory behind Juwan Jenning, who I

1156
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 5: already has a calf injury again has the contract situation.

1157
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 5: He's going behind some of the guys that I said

1158
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 5: I have zero interest in, like Cup and Digs, and

1159
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 5: I would take I would maybe take pearsw like in

1160
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 5: terms of his ceiling, or even over a guy like

1161
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 5: like Roma Dunze. That's a good shoutout because I think

1162
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 5: what Pearsall already showed and he's done at practice too.

1163
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 5: From everything that I've heard, it is like he is

1164
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 5: an NFL player. It is a question whether he's gonna

1165
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 5: be like a solid two three or two or can

1166
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 5: he be like a wide receiver one, but that'll be

1167
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 5: great value for him, and the opportunity is is just

1168
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 5: absolutely insane. You couldn't take the heat pat conversation and

1169
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 5: you had to duck out. So I leave you with

1170
00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 5: the final word. Any wide receiver hot takes before we

1171
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 5: get out of there, whether it's like a middle later

1172
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 5: round guys that you love that you don't love before

1173
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 5: you leave in shame, it's.

1174
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 3: A mid round guy.

1175
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 2: I can't say I either love or hate him, but

1176
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: he's kind of the wide receiver version of DeAndre Swift,

1177
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: where he's become an annual disappointment to fantasy managers. Calvin Ridley,

1178
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,959
Speaker 2: I just don't think people are prepared for how much

1179
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: more the Titans are going to pass than they did

1180
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: last year. And it might be a erradic and scattershot,

1181
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 2: Like how much higher quality the passing is going to be,

1182
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: even if there are a lot of turnovers mixed in

1183
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,479
Speaker 2: from cam Ward. It just seems like Calvin Ridley could

1184
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: be like this time it counts guy. This year, he's

1185
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: burned us so many different times, but he's the lead

1186
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: receiver for an offense that could be so much better.

1187
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 3: And I really like.

1188
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: The two Bills guys Khalil Shakir, who was like a

1189
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: top thirty six guy last year. I mean, maybe he

1190
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 2: won't get a whole lot better, but I feel like

1191
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: he could still get better. They're talking about him getting better.

1192
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: They need him desperately. And also Keon Coleman was kind

1193
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 2: of getting hot before he got hurt last year. He'd

1194
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: stacked together two or three decent games, then he got injured.

1195
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: He came back and didn't do anything down the stretch.

1196
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: But he's someone they need really, really bad. He basically

1197
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: does not have an ADP. He's got a very late

1198
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: round ADP. He is being drafted, but he's like a

1199
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: wide receiver fifty five. He's actually going right around your guy,

1200
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: Rashid Shaheed, who I do also really like this year.

1201
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: But I feel like looking to the Bills is a

1202
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: good place. Maybe looking at the Titans in Calvin Ridley.

1203
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: No one's gonna want to draft Titans. No one ever

1204
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: wants to draft Calvin rid leacause all he's ever done

1205
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: is lose them fantasy leagues. But those are two good plays.

1206
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: Do we like Trey Harris for the Chargers or are

1207
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 2: they going to retreat any I.

1208
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: Mean, we'll see how camp goes.

1209
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 5: But like a guy coming from an offense that like

1210
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily translate or not. Everything is so unpredictable with

1211
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,439
Speaker 5: these rookies like Dante Thornton kind of clearly see better

1212
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 5: than Jack Besh and Las Vegas. And I haven't heard

1213
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 5: a lot about Trey Harris. It hasn't been like overly

1214
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,439
Speaker 5: positive there. So yeah, I think you got to see

1215
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 5: how August just the ceiling doesn't seem happy. I mean

1216
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 5: that high to me, Shakier, I'm totally with you on

1217
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 5: Shakir that that's a good shout out.

1218
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: I do like a little.

1219
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 5: I do like the Jordan Addison Jalen Waddle values for

1220
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 5: where they are as like two enormous, Like they're just

1221
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 5: like better football players. For instance, in Calvin Ridley, the

1222
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,479
Speaker 5: opportunities obviously better than.

1223
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: For Cow's not good. Col's not good. He doesn't matter.

1224
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 5: He's not bad though at a wide receiver thirty one

1225
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 5: there are He's solid enough.

1226
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: But I like Addison and Waddle to get more yards.

1227
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 5: We did it. We'll we'll talk tight end some other time.

1228
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 5: This was just the intro to fantasy for the season.

1229
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 5: It's we're not gonna uh totally say goodbye to to

1230
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 5: fantasy because we got we got about a month left

1231
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 5: of drafts.

1232
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: It is Silva season. It's Rodo Pat season.

1233
00:59:55,600 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 5: Uh everyone check out Silva at establish the run. Him

1234
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 5: and my old coworker as well, Adam Levitan, the Wizard

1235
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 5: of Oz over there had established the run.

1236
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: He's the man.

1237
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 5: And of course Roto Pat still holding it down at

1238
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 5: roadal World, Love you guys, appreciate you guys both coming

1239
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 5: on with me. That's it for this great week of

1240
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 5: shows on NFL Daily. We will be back on Sunday evening.

1241
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 5: We're posting these shows with Nick Schuk where we do

1242
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 5: notes all around the AFC, So we're gonna hit all

1243
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 5: thirty two teams over the two shows Sunday night and

1244
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 5: Monday night. But yeah, as you heard on the top

1245
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 5: of this show, we had an actual freaking football game.

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Speaker 1: It's back