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Speaker 3: Oh okay, welcome to the Black Hotels Podcast with your

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Speaker 3: host Rod Ed and we're live on a Sunday noonish time,

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Speaker 3: morning time on the West Coast, and we have very

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Speaker 3: special guests. We have our girl Tanya Tanja from the

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Speaker 3: Cinema Bun podcast and she's also working on we're not

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Speaker 4: I mean it's out right. I mean it's about to

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Speaker 4: be out.

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Speaker 3: Wing chick, which is a well, it's that she's coming

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Speaker 3: out with Tanja.

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 1: I am blessed a hoighly favorite. How y'all doing?

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Speaker 4: You know what? Can't complain making it?

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Speaker 3: Making it on a Sunday, you know, just came from Target,

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Speaker 3: spent all the money at Target.

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Speaker 4: You know how it is? Yeah, yeah, it didn't mean to.

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Speaker 5: Didn't mean to.

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Speaker 6: I've been losing weight, and when you lose weight or

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Speaker 6: new bras, new yoga pants. You like, this is some bullshit.

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Speaker 3: So we spent all the money after Target this morning.

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Speaker 3: But like I said, happy to be rare.

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Speaker 4: Uh And how have you been.

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Speaker 3: With uh, you know, the show, with the podcast and

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're a woman of many hats, I am.

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Speaker 2: And actually the reason why we're we're having a pretty

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Speaker 2: of my my web series mostly and my my many

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Speaker 2: many jobs. But yeah, Wing chickens in post production right now,

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Speaker 1: So it's fun.

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Speaker 3: So, okay, you tell everybody what wings Wing Chick is

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Speaker 3: about and what to be expected.

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Speaker 2: So when I always peep pitch Wing Chick, I say

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Speaker 2: that it is Brown Sugar meets Girlfriends, And basically it's

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Speaker 2: about Raven, who's this dating profile side writer and her

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Speaker 2: well as her complicated best friend Michael. They have that

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Speaker 2: will they won't they tangle? That will be very fun

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Speaker 4: That's dope, man.

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Speaker 3: And how how long did it take you to like

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Speaker 2: I think I wrote this script the pilot at least,

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Speaker 1: Because it's based off my life and an amalgamation of.

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Speaker 2: So it's a raven is essentially me And as I

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Speaker 1: Yes, and we appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: We're raising money for all of it because yeah, we've

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Speaker 4: What what's this gonna cost?

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Speaker 2: As I said, like when I said, film is unpredictable,

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Speaker 3: Are you so, are you like gonna try to shop

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Speaker 3: Or both did you ever think about just fag kind

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I could just like you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just you know, just delete yo, just go ahead,

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Speaker 1: Tempted you know when that happened.

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Speaker 1: Other people who are asking for many because now you

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Speaker 2: Of us, right, And you know, I'm I already have

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Speaker 2: This needs to be seen because they had read my

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Speaker 1: Pushed me to do that. But yo, the fantom, I'm like.

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Speaker 2: That is insane. I'm like, oh my god, the timing

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Speaker 3: That was the first thing I thought about, was like,

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Speaker 4: I hope right?

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Speaker 6: A lot a lot of ship got pushed back. Niggas

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Speaker 2: Hell no, I don't want to be at the end

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Speaker 1: It was just a volunteer.

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Speaker 4: On the days of the Internet. I don't know why

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Speaker 6: It is however forever ever And and I was hearing

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Speaker 6: Get the fuck out my goddamn face. You don't worry.

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Speaker 4: And we want we want to see you succeed.

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Speaker 4: Why would I take a chance on you? What if

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Speaker 3: That's gonna cent her some black women first, Like I

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00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,479
Speaker 3: don't know, like but I But at the same time,

443
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 3: I'm not fussing at you.

444
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 4: I agree.

445
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 3: I identify with it because I had we had it too.

446
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 3: Like Karen's like such a such a a great person,

447
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 3: a great person to have in your corner because she

448
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 3: is the kind of person that pushes people like that

449
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 3: to be like get your ass out there and attempt

450
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 3: You know, if it wasn't for Karen, we wouldn't be

451
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: doing what we do with the podcast. The way that

452
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 3: we do it, because she was the one that was like,

453
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 3: you better go fucking.

454
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 4: Build this shit. I don't know how to do it,

455
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 4: but you go doing this and make and make a tea.

456
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: You know.

457
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 3: So I'm glad that you had some women in your

458
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 3: corner that were the same way, because who knows what

459
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 3: would have happen if you didn't have those women. You

460
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 3: would have maybe come down to self doubt or you know,

461
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 3: intimidation and stuff like that when you feel like I

462
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 3: never been out here before, and your story is reflective

463
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 3: with so many other black creative stories because a lot

464
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 3: of us, a lot of us have that inside, you

465
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like a lot of us have

466
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 3: the like, Man, I think I'm making something great or

467
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 3: something with the potential to have an audience, but I'm

468
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 3: scared and I don't really know because if I you know,

469
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 3: I don't want to put it out there and fail.

470
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to put it out there and ask

471
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: for help when I should feel like I should be

472
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 3: able to do it myself. But look like there's so

473
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 3: many white like comedians, filmmakers, whatever that aren't talented, and

474
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 3: they sit around every day, right they sit around there

475
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: blame every day, and they blame black and brown people

476
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 3: and women and LGBTQ people for the reason that they're

477
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: not on like they like, they don't have anything funny

478
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 3: to add themselves, They don't have any talent themselves, but

479
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 3: they do have a whole list of reasons why because

480
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 3: Easter Ray got a series.

481
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 4: The world ain't fair and so you.

482
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 3: Know they get that in sense of entitlement that we

483
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 3: don't get none of us. Sits around and goes well,

484
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: because I'm black, I know I'm gonna get this TV show, none.

485
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: Of us exactly.

486
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 2: In fact, it's the opposite, right, And you know when

487
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 2: it's funny because with my assisters circle, I'm that person

488
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 2: for them too, like I'm they height man. But like

489
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 2: obviously when it comes to your shit is more personal.

490
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 1: I'm an artist.

491
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: I'm sensitive about my shit. You know that thing is

492
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: real and it does. It takes somebody. It's that pride,

493
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: that black pride. That again, I'm a Leo.

494
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: I have Leo pride.

495
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Speaker 2: So it's all that together and it don't make no

496
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: sense that we I mean, it does take a village,

497
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: right obviously, as has been proven by my series alone,

498
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: along with other things that we've seen that's happened. It

499
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Speaker 2: does take a village, and I've learned the quote unquote

500
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 2: hard way that that's true. I mean, I am not

501
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: apologetic about asking for help whatsoever, because, as I said,

502
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: filmmaking is collaborative, and I mean that across the board.

503
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: Like the people who donated to our campaign and the

504
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 2: people and donate to this campaign, they get credit like

505
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 2: they gonna get a special tanks because they also made

506
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: this film possible.

507
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 1: So I love it.

508
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: You know, I'm again, I'm so humbled for this and

509
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: that people are willing to give their money whatever that is,

510
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: or their support, their time, that y'all give y'all time

511
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: to give me a platform because I love this damn podcast.

512
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: I love y'all. Y'all are my good mood peel on

513
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: my timeline and my social media feed.

514
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 2: So you know, in this trash that we call America

515
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: right now, y'all always making me laughing, so you know,

516
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: it's this is just a beautiful thing.

517
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Speaker 6: I love it, and I love us, and thank you, baby,

518
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 6: thank you very much. And something else that I wanted

519
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 6: to say too, is that when it comes to art,

520
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 6: art doesn't have a value for the time and effort.

521
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 6: Like when you punch a clock, it says you work

522
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Speaker 6: forty hours. I pay you fourteen nine to nine an hour,

523
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Speaker 6: and every two weeks you get paid this much. Is

524
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 6: like you put it into work and you get a

525
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 6: dollar you go on the end. Art is one of

526
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 6: those things where it's no dollar value to it. And

527
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 6: because it's no dollar value to it, it's hard to

528
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 6: get a lot of brown and modulized people to understand

529
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 6: that it's money to be made in these fields. And

530
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 6: everybody don't want to be mega rick. Some people just

531
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 6: want to be a mediocre and average and some people.

532
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: Just want to be able to go. Some people just

533
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: want to be able to go to Target on a Sunday.

534
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: It's spending way too much money on yoga, pan and

535
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 3: underwear and not have to look at their balance and

536
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 3: worry about it. CARDGNN decline, that's all I want out

537
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: of Like that's a simple dream.

538
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: Yes, because you know a Target. We the Target.

539
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: Podcasts made that possible. Okay, black people made that possible.

540
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it did.

541
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 6: It was funny though, Becauho was end of the day.

542
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 6: I looked at that ship, I said, oh yeah.

543
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 3: Like a scroll parents, Like I can get we might

544
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: cond get this cheap. And I'm like no, I was like,

545
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: we can get this cheaper somewhere. I can go to boss.

546
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 3: I said you right, I said, baby, baby, I got you.

547
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I got you.

548
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: We're not going up in Marshall and getting no foo

549
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 3: boo without the patch on it in one strike. We're

550
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: not doing that today. We got target money. Let's get this.

551
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 3: Let's get this money.

552
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: Okay, right, But like Ralph Lauren, but with like Donkey

553
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: for Shrick, like.

554
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 3: Right, it's a it's a lot. I mean it's a lot.

555
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: I mean it's a simple dream, you know what I'm saying.

556
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: But it's but it's a lot of white people living

557
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 3: that dream right now, because it isn't it isn't just

558
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 3: mega rich, mega famous. There's a lot of just working artists.

559
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, we need more black working artists.

560
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 3: We need to be able to do that. And if

561
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 3: that means crowdfunding, if that means you know, uh, putting

562
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: things out there and like you said, going and getting

563
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: a producer that you know you had no no reason

564
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 3: to think she would or wouldn't help you out, and

565
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 3: then boom, one conversation is like yo, I like that

566
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: young woman. I like what she's I looked at her project.

567
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 3: I would like to be a part of this. That's like,

568
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,479
Speaker 3: that's a dope moment, and I'm glad that people are

569
00:26:59,560 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 3: doing that.

570
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: We've always had to do that for ourselves.

571
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: We did it, and you know that that black woman again,

572
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: I want to also want to shout out my producer,

573
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: like I hired her as a line producer. I went

574
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: on the internet again. I'm a part of these Google

575
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 2: groups that's like within the industry or whatever. I pitched

576
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: my wing chick on there. I was like, Okay, we

577
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: need a line producer and a black woman by the

578
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: name of Alicia Allen. Shout out to her. She's a producer.

579
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 2: She's an up and coming producer right now. She's doing

580
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: big shit. She just acquired the rights to the Hattie

581
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 2: McDaniel by a pick. You may have heard of that.

582
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: She's one of the producers who heard her partner, I

583
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: want to get his name right, Aaron mcnannie. They just

584
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: acquired the rights of that to the one of the

585
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: books for Hattie mcdoney's life. So they are developing a

586
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: bio pick as we speak. So to have her my

587
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: corner I'm like, she's amazing and she's.

588
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: Like the mama to set right now. So I love her.

589
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: She's always going to be a part of my team,

590
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: my village.

591
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 3: And when you brought up Google, you wought up Google groups.

592
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: What exactly is like that within the industry?

593
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, uh, it's the one, the particular one that

594
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,239
Speaker 2: I found found her at is called We Are the

595
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: Industry and it's a collective of black folks basically in

596
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: the industry, and they have like brunches and networking, uh

597
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: mixers and ship like that. And also you just get

598
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: the post ship in the group, like hey I got

599
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: this project, you want to help, or hey I got

600
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: this job, you want to get this, or oh I'm

601
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: looking for a roommate. And it's it's mostly La Base,

602
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 2: but I think they also have some stuff in New

603
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: York or Atlanta where other film industries are. But it's

604
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: really dope, and I think like a lot of people,

605
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: like I think even Easter Ray started on that when

606
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: she was doing Our Black Girls. She started on that

607
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: group and she got a lot of her village from there,

608
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: and uh, James Bland from Giants in the same way.

609
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: I think that's how they hooked up on that site

610
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: and uh, it's actually started by the producers of that

611
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: black Love doc on own right now.

612
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: And they are really cool. They're really cool people. They

613
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: love to get put people.

614
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: On basically right and you know, everybody go eat, you know,

615
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: and that's that's how we feel.

616
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 4: That's dope. Man.

617
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: Have you ever had to like, like, how do you

618
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: deal with stuff like, because you know you're dealing with

619
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 3: people we work with, we're done voice work like audio

620
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 3: voiceovers and stuff.

621
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: And you know, we have a dexter who.

622
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: Shout the Shadow Doll Productions to Dexter to go to

623
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: their YouTube page Shadow Doll Productions.

624
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that is such a nice dude.

625
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: He's great follow on Twitter, live tweets all all the

626
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: shows with people and stuff like he's a cool dude

627
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: and he's a great person to work for, you know

628
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: what I mean. So like he like when we work there,

629
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: like we'll come in like he's very understanding of stuff

630
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: like Okay, you messed up a line, like let's just

631
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: do it one more time, Let's run it again, you know,

632
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: not you know it's not like God damn it, you know,

633
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: like like.

634
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 4: It's never you know what I mean. Like know what

635
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 4: to expect.

636
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that was my worst My worst nightmare was

637
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: is gonna be like you didn't memorize the entire script,

638
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 3: you son of a bitch. What kind of place you

639
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: think I'm running? You know, Like, but he was mad

640
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: and even with Dexter, like I can see like he

641
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: takes on the weight of when other people fuck up

642
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: as opposed to putting weight on everyone else.

643
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 4: So like there's time we've been up there and like people.

644
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: Didn't show up, someone cancel last minute things, And he

645
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: never let that frustration ball over into dealing with anyone else,

646
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: Like he always kept like it was very compartmentalized. Like

647
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 3: you can kind of tell he's like, god, damn it,

648
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: all right, I've figured this out. Okay, so we'll get

649
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: this person to do this part, or maybe we'll we'll

650
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: do this later and then this person can come the

651
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: next time or whatever. Like he's figuring it out on

652
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: the fly, but also like he's not been turning around

653
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: and stretching us out. Have you had to deal with

654
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: those type of situations now that you're in this producer

655
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 3: role kind of you know.

656
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely as a director.

657
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: That's that's a great example with you know somebody who's

658
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: producing under and voice, right, y'all are essentially the talent, right.

659
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: So with a director, in addition to a director and

660
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: a director of photography having a very close relationship, a

661
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: director has a very very close and intimate relationship with

662
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: the actors also, and it's my job to make them

663
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: number one, feel less comfortable so they can deliver what

664
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: I want them to deliver, which, again, it can be

665
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: from a very vulnerable place. It is very intimate, so

666
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: the or has to be comfortable for them to give

667
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: me that. I have to set up a space for

668
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: them to be comfortable enough to give me what I want.

669
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: Essentially, So.

670
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: On a set again, it can be very stressful. And

671
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: just like Dexter, I tried to keep it covermentalized because

672
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: I guess I'm like that at work too. People would

673
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: say in my reviews they wouldn't they never knew when

674
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: I was bothered. So like on set, I'm stressed as fuck,

675
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: like because I'm like, oh, share we lose a light,

676
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: like oh you know, like and I'm like, oh god,

677
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: my anxiety is like going haywire. But from what people

678
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: tell me, you know, they can't really see it, like

679
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: they'll see maybe that I'm stressed out, but I don't

680
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: let it like dexter. I don't let it like go

681
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: spill over to them because they're they're also stressed. Shit,

682
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: it's like that greating that aura.

683
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: And that that that that.

684
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: Air in the room. I guess it's like a thick cloud.

685
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: And you know, if you're stressed, and that like you know,

686
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: culminates over the set and then everybody's gonna be fucked up.

687
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: And if my person is fucked up, the whole thing

688
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: is fucked up.

689
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about that's all the way down to

690
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: the PA's, the grips, the gaffers, like all the people,

691
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: like the extras, whoever.

692
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: All of that is bad. It's like that crabs in

693
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: a barrel.

694
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: I guess with the set because it is like one

695
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: part of the film fucks up all of it can.

696
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: And that's what I always got to give props to

697
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: those people that are not.

698
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: In the spotlight as a director or writer or a

699
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: producer that top three or the actors. They never get

700
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: that spotlight, but they do make the film happen just

701
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: as much as us.

702
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: And also, like putting this out in the Internet era,

703
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: the social media era, your own social media.

704
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: Do you do you worry about stuff as a creative

705
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 4: like why you're doing it?

706
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: Are you like, I hope people don't interpret this thing

707
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: this way, or I hope they let it play out,

708
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: you know, because you know, one of one of the

709
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 3: things I see now with social media and the immediacy

710
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: of our responses, there's a lot of things in TV

711
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: shows where the people have already thought of the thing

712
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: that you're thinking of at home, right, But there's seven episodes.

713
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: They're not gonna take a conflict from episode one and

714
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: resolve it within three seconds. They're gonna they want they

715
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 3: want to play play with the conflict. They want to

716
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: do different things, they want how to actors do different stuff.

717
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 3: And then my episode seven, it may come to a

718
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: conclusion or whatever. So like, do you like, are you

719
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: ready for that if if this, you know, blows up?

720
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 3: Are you ready for people to be like in your

721
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: mentions like what you mean he broke up with her

722
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: episode too, Like I can't believe a black woman would

723
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: write this, like are you ready?

724
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I think about that all the time because

725
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: I'm also very active in social media, and I'm gonna

726
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: use Insecure as example, because you know Insecure, everybody all

727
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: up on the timeline. That's a very engaging show. I

728
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: say that's what I call it because they has people arguing,

729
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: like it has people cussing out Issa just because the

730
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: character's name is Easa even though it ain't really Easter Ray,

731
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: you know, and and to me as a creative, and

732
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 2: I think she feels she probably feels the same way.

733
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: Is it's actually dope that people are that invested in

734
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 2: something that you created. You know, obviously it goes to

735
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: it goes left, you know, once it's a popular but

736
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: I think that comes with the game. You gotta kind

737
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: of eat it up as it comes. I know it's

738
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: gonna come as we get more viewers on it. But

739
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: as far as like them getting mad at the characters

740
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: and shit, I love that shit Like I got into

741
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 2: film because of how films or TV, how that content

742
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: made me feel. Like at the bottom line, it was

743
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 2: because of how it made me feel. And that's whether

744
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: it's sad, mad, angry, whatever. If I could make somebody laugh,

745
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 2: cry or get mad, I've done my job.

746
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: Like that's the ship.

747
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: Like I can't wait to get into a theater and

748
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: see people react to my ship.

749
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: That's why I create.

750
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 4: So are you looking forward to the canceled Tanja?

751
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: Yo? You know what?

752
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 2: And I said this, I said this at on Facebook.

753
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: I was like, as long as y'all don't cancel me

754
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: doing sweeps, I'm but yeah, we'll see if that happens.

755
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, as much as you grow, I feel like

756
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen anyway.

757
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, what old tweets that I put on it?

758
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: Because I've been on Twitter for a while, like not

759
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: even just under my real name, but I used to

760
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: be cheeky. So it's like, and I don't have that

761
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: account anymore, but who knows who got screenshots in the

762
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: background or in my cachet right now that I said

763
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: some shit?

764
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: So we'll see.

765
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 6: Is there a difference between working when you said that

766
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 6: you have a lot of women on your crew and

767
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 6: all that stuff. Is there a difference between working with

768
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 6: women and working with men? Is there a reason why

769
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 6: you prefer to have women there versus men? You know,

770
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 6: because I know what women, Women work better with women

771
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 6: in certain atmospheres, and women have a have a tendency

772
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 6: to be more compassionate, and you know, like on set

773
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 6: and and kind of can pick up on cues and

774
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 6: understand more not than men can. But you know, all

775
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 6: aside a lot of straight men, you know, they be

776
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 6: rubbing up on women and doing all kinds of foul bullshit.

777
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 6: So I can completely understand how I mean, I don't

778
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 6: want no problems on my set.

779
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: That part, Yeah, that's that's real. Like the the main

780
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: reason why I made this a matriarchy. So my director

781
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: of photography, Madi she she is Mardi Sella. She is

782
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: a dope ass, uh director photographer. And number two, uh

783
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: so one is because it's a girl power theme. The

784
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: actual show is very girl power ass And number two

785
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 2: is because there's not a lot of us in those

786
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: technical roles uh that has that that has that has

787
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: the I guess exposure, Like it's a lot of us

788
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: doing it, but it's not a lot.

789
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: Of us getting those opportunities.

790
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: Because that's a difference between that because you know a

791
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: lot of people get on the social media or the

792
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: internet and.

793
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: Say, oh, ain't no, ain't know women doing this. They

794
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: know women writers, they know women directors.

795
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: Are you know doing the technical roles like the electric

796
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: electric department or you know, the the sound apartment and

797
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: these the women are doing this ship. They just they

798
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: just not getting the opportunity. So that's why it was

799
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: a huge deal when Abel du Verne did that for

800
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: Queen Sugar, Like with the all directed women director team,

801
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: those were all already working women directors, they just weren't

802
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: getting ships, uh, in the opportunity to do so. And

803
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: so she started a trend with that, which is crazy

804
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: because it was in the fucking new millennium that she

805
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: started a trend because they women been doing this.

806
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: Shit been.

807
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 4: A resume too, yeah.

808
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: For sure.

809
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: And so I want especially because my my actors are

810
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: different levels of the game, Like I have some newer

811
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: ones and then some people who already have sad cards

812
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: and in a lot of the like my director photography, photography,

813
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 2: she's worked on professional sets, she's worked on indie sets,

814
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: so she has like a lot of experience that she's

815
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 2: I've learned from her in so many ways are set

816
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: in general, has learned since this is a big the

817
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: biggest set that I've been on, I've learned, you know,

818
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: more the professional industry terms and how to do this,

819
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: how to do that, because like with the director, it's

820
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: kind of like a big picture thing, right, you know,

821
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: don't necessarily know have to know all the details of

822
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: the technical thing, but it's imperative to know at least

823
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: what everybody does you know, so you can you can

824
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: be able to be able to direct people and tell

825
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: them what you need in the right jargon.

826
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: So it's's very you have to be very good for communication.

827
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 3: And earlier you brought up the you listen to podcasts

828
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 3: as well. Yeah, to get like some of the knowledge

829
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: of like working in the game and stuff. Did you

830
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: have any ones you would recommend for people to check out.

831
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say like on the Page is a good one.

832
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 1: Uh, there's one called script Notes for writing.

833
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: Both of those are for writers and they just talk

834
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: about different levels of the game, whether that's pitching or

835
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: writing specs. And I would just I would say just

836
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: listen to those like as you're commuting to work, because

837
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: it's kind of like it's conversational, but it's also your learning, right,

838
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: it's like coursework in a way. So you just if

839
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: you're into you know, the screenwriting game or learning about it,

840
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: I say do that because they they tackle everything.

841
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: It's amazing in the age of the Internet how much

842
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: game people have given away quote unquote for free correct

843
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: but I love it, Like, I really love this era

844
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: of time where like people that are experts are out

845
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: here like, oh, well, look, this is how you need

846
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: to do a podcast.

847
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 4: I'll tell you right now, you know.

848
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 3: And I like that because then people can go out

849
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: and put out more, because the hoarding of information has

850
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: been such a hindrance to especially marginalized.

851
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 4: Communities being able to get in shit.

852
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: Because it's not that motherfuckers are more talented, but they

853
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: just know where the bodies are, they know where the

854
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: as lanes are, they know where the history.

855
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 4: Of things are.

856
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: And so when you have somebody come out and be like, nah,

857
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: man for like, you know, three dollars on YouTube, I'll

858
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: tell you how to fucking make a fucking TV show.

859
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 4: All right, appreciate you playing. Here's my three and let's

860
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: do it.

861
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 6: You know.

862
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 4: I love that Twitter. It's done that.

863
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: Like, you know, a lot of times I talk about

864
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: the negatives of social media and stuff, but there's so

865
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 3: many positive aspects of that because there's people that like

866
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 3: are fucking like authors, movie directors and shit, and they're

867
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 3: just out here like, let me tell you how I

868
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 3: wrote my book.

869
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, let me pull out my pen and paper.

870
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 4: Let's do this. So yo, that's dope. So make sure

871
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 4: y'all where's the indiego go?

872
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: And then like where should people be looking to see

873
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: Wing Chick when it comes out?

874
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so wing Chick.

875
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: If you go to the indiegog dot com right now,

876
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: you can search for wing chick and that's one word

877
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: is wing as in chicken, wing and chick c H

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Speaker 2: I c K and search that.

879
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Speaker 1: It should come up as the first result.

880
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Speaker 2: It's a post forduction campaign because it'll probably also show

881
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: our production campaign, but it'll say that's ended, but the

882
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: first result should be our post production campaign.

883
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: You go on there. You can also follow us.

884
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: On social media Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat all that we're

885
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 2: at Wing Chick series.

886
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: There you go, man, I'll support it, yeah, and thank you.

887
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 6: Before we move on, what would be a tip or

888
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 6: tips that you would give somebody that they're hearing you

889
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 6: and they got a vision, they got a dream, and

890
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 6: you know they kind of at the beginning stage, is

891
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 6: what would be a tip that you would kind of

892
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 6: give to them, like at all your experience that you have.

893
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: Right now, mm hmm. I would say go ahead and

894
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: take that leap of faith. It's worth it. It's a struggle.

895
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: There are a lot of challenges that come with it,

896
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: but that comes that comes with taking risks and what

897
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: I say, because I have a lot of fear of

898
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: I had a lot of fear of taking that that

899
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: leap once I took it to go ahead and pursue

900
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: my creative vision is that the bigger fear that I

901
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: had was thinking back, what if? What if I did this?

902
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: Uh So, go ahead and create your own content. We're

903
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: in a creator's market right now. Just like in a

904
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: real estate there's a buyer and a seller's market, there

905
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: is a This is a creator's market because the platforms

906
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 2: that we have, the access that we have to show

907
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: to show people who are of influence. Right, somebody of

908
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: influence can see our products. You just put it online.

909
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: You can shoot with an iPhone, whether you shoot with

910
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: an iPhone or you shoot with the biggest you know

911
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: camera out like the Aria of the Red. You know,

912
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: if you have a bigger production. So if you shoot

913
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: with the with any of those, it depends on what

914
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 2: your what your narrative is and you're telling your true,

915
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: your true, authentic story, you should get some good responses

916
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: to it, all.

917
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 3: Right, Well, look, let's get into our segments all right,

918
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: because we got we still have, you know, stuff to

919
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: talk about.

920
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 4: Guys.

921
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 3: Make you support our girl, okay, trying to try to

922
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: live the dream, okay, and I feel like we can

923
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 3: throw five on it and uh and help make these.

924
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 4: Dreams come true.

925
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: Man, Thank you so much.

926
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 3: No problem. Now, let's get it to our segments, all right.

927
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 3: We talked for a while.

928
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna get straight into the segments.

929
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 3: I'm skipping the news and we're gonna go straight in

930
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 3: the fucking with black people. Okay, guys, just fucking with

931
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 3: those black people.

932
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 4: Were just fucking with those blacks.

933
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 3: We're just fucking with fucking with black people. That's right, guys.

934
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 3: It's tired to play the game we all hate to play.

935
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: It's fucking with black people. The game where we go

936
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 3: all over the globe, we find different articles that make

937
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 3: us feel fucked with his black people, and we assign

938
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Speaker 3: points scores from zero two, one hundred and mos a

939
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: twenty five today's contestants. Everybody, all right, let's see whos

940
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 3: fucking with us. George Zimman said he broke and he

941
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: ain't got a job. Ay two point five.

942
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 5: In debt a hundred. We can skip this.

943
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 4: I give it one hundred as well, Tanja, Yeah, definitely, honey,

944
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 4: skipping the details.

945
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: Let's see what else happened. House Democrats line up to

946
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: vote en mass for a totally unnecessary Blue Lives Matter bill.

947
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 4: M too. Yeah.

948
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

949
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 3: They basically passed, overwhelmingly passed the bill in the House

950
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: of Representatives on Wednesday to create a new penalty for

951
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 3: assaulting law enforcement officials. If it becomes law, the Protect

952
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: and Serve Act of twenty eighteen would make it a

953
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: federal crime punishable by out the tenures in prison for

954
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 3: knowingly causing seriously serious bodily injury to a law enforcement

955
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: officer or attempts to do so.

956
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 6: Well, they're gonna be charged doing a lot of white

957
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 6: people in jail, but we know they're not gonna because

958
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 6: they all as saw the officer and can fucking keep

959
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 6: it pushing.

960
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: Listening all up in their face.

961
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 6: What Yeah, but we know this law ain't for them,

962
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 6: So it's all in how they want to execute the law,

963
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 6: and it's already up pen they for fucking them up anyway,

964
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 6: Why we don't need extra laws for the for fucking

965
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 6: them up?

966
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: Understand every state already has laws for killing officers on

967
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: the books, like now we got a federal law.

968
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: For Oh thanks, we really needed that, said no one.

969
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 4: Yep.

970
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: These Blue Lives Matter bills have been snaking their way

971
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 3: through state legislatures across the country for over the past

972
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 3: two years as citizens have continued to rise up and

973
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: demand an end to police brutality, and the police went, well,

974
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: what about us. In twenty sixteen, Louisiana became the first

975
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: state in the country to make police officers a class

976
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 3: of citizens protected under the hate crime Law. The bill

977
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: was signed the law by Governor John Bell Edwards, who

978
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: is a Democrat. Civil rights groups have announced to protect

979
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 3: the serve acting a Tuesday letter to members of Congress,

980
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 3: one than two dozen groups, including the ACLU, the Human

981
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 3: Rights Watch, and the Southern Poverty Law Center called the

982
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 3: bill superfluous and said it would negatively negatively impact law

983
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 3: enforcements relationships with the communities they're supposed to serve.

984
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 7: Right, it doesn't make sense, yep, and it's also a

985
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 7: bit jarring to see the majority of the House Democrats,

986
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 7: including some of the chambers more progressive members, lined up

987
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 7: to support a bill.

988
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 4: A total of one hundred and sixty two.

989
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: Democratic members back to bill, while just twenty four voted

990
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: against the measure. Representative Keith Ellison, who represents Minnesota and

991
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 3: has come to be affiliated with Bernie Sanders wing of

992
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 3: the party, voted for the bill as the Arizona Representative

993
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 3: rag revolved Jalva and Jan what was the Swrokowski of Illinois.

994
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 3: You can read the full roll called the vote online.

995
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 6: But yep, and this is why when it comes to Allyship,

996
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 6: I don't believe it. You're fucking racist, You're voting in

997
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 6: racist shit. You won't my vote, but you actually don't

998
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 6: give a fuck about me when it's time to execute

999
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 6: these laws. Because if you cared about the community that

1000
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 6: you were over, if you really really care and you

1001
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 6: consider these communities, you would say, fuck this, this does

1002
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 6: not make any sense.

1003
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: And they're scared because if they vote against it, it

1004
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: becomes Democrats vote to support cop killers. Is the way

1005
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: that it's gonna be spun the other way.

1006
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 4: You know.

1007
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: It's kind of like that thing where I told people

1008
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: about Obama a while ago when people were like really

1009
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 3: shitting on him, and I'm like, okay, but we're only

1010
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: looking from our point of view. But the country's point

1011
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 3: of view is still a racist point of view. So

1012
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 3: and if we admit that even the quote unquote good

1013
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 3: white people still harbor a lot of racist points of view,

1014
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 3: he's also the leader of that country. So even when

1015
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 3: he comes out and says something to us is common sense,

1016
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 3: like Treyvon Martin got killed because he's a black kid

1017
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: and he should still be alive. The backlash from that

1018
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: across the country, from even the well meaning white people

1019
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: becomes why certain identity politics, what is this about race?

1020
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 4: Why?

1021
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't understand why the president's even talking

1022
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: about this.

1023
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 4: That backlash is real too.

1024
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: And so what happens is Republicans and white people in

1025
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: general have weaponized the other side of this to where

1026
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: no one's in favor of cops getting killed. There's no

1027
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 3: one's voting, there's no bill that's passed that said the

1028
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: kill cops bill. Of course we're gonna vote for that.

1029
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 3: Everybody's like, we would hope that people aren't losing their lives.

1030
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 3: We will hope police officers aren't losing their lives.

1031
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 4: All that shit.

1032
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 3: Yet they spun the country into such a tizzy that

1033
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 3: the idea of saying no to this bill becomes synonymous

1034
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: with the idea saying I would like cops to die

1035
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: and there be no punishment.

1036
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 4: That's how crazy the environment is. So I don't even.

1037
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 3: Think, Like, while I don't think they should have voted

1038
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: for it, duh, I also know that there's a cost

1039
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: to it that I don't care about. Like, no, I'm

1040
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: not running for office, so maybe there is a cost

1041
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: of this ship that for me, I'd be like, well,

1042
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 3: I'll pay that cost. Like then I guess I'll lose

1043
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 3: my district and there, and a lot of these politicians

1044
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 3: are probably like, nah, I'm not gonna do this.

1045
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, And a lot of times because of mogulized people,

1046
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 6: particularly black black people's relationship with this government, they like

1047
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 6: to throw that patriarchy that that that how much we

1048
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 6: love America. I don't give a fuck. I was about

1049
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 6: it's not goddamn will you flung on the back because

1050
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 6: y'all was running away from shit and was like we

1051
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 6: won't free. I was paying, kicking and streaming and with

1052
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 6: change on my motherfucking hands. So my love for the

1053
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 6: country and love your love for the country ain't the same.

1054
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 6: So when they'd be like, you don't love our country.

1055
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 6: I can love the country and say it ain't shit.

1056
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 1: Too, that's it.

1057
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: And you know with that, with that oh trying to

1058
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: kill cops or whatever, they're always doing that to divert attention.

1059
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: From what we really need to be discussing, which is.

1060
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 2: There is there is domestic terrorism going on right now

1061
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: with these police officer killing us like that. So they

1062
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 2: just say, oh, black lives better, No, all lives better,

1063
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: Like no, y'all know, y'all know what the deal is.

1064
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: And again, those those well meaning white people are the same.

1065
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: They only say in a nicer way. It's like, oh, well,

1066
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: but maybe you should, you know, not, It's like, what,

1067
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: what the hell?

1068
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: These are actual, actual issues that we need to discuss

1069
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 2: just as much as anything else.

1070
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: Yes, It's like I saw pictures with Van Jones who

1071
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 3: went to this like criminal reform summit, and he took

1072
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: pictures with some Trump people and he was like, you know,

1073
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 3: all up in the videos, smiling and kicking it with them.

1074
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 3: And I don't know if this happened at the same place,

1075
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 3: but you also had a picture online with him chilling

1076
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: with Candice Owns, smiling and shit, which the first two

1077
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: I kind of understand, but I think that tactics not

1078
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: gonna work, and he's one of those people that really

1079
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 3: believes in this idea of like we can come together bipartisanship,

1080
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 3: both sides of the hour are complicit and da da

1081
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: da da. I'm not a firm believer in that, and

1082
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 3: I think he's ultimately going to be proven wrong and

1083
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 3: they will be fruitless. But I think he does genuinely

1084
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 3: believe that taking a picture with Canas owens and that

1085
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 3: that's just stupid on his part. To me, that's indefensible,

1086
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 3: But I'm sure people will come up with a defense

1087
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 3: for it.

1088
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 4: But I do feel like.

1089
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 3: There's some you know, validity to the idea of of

1090
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: like we have to go where the power is, and

1091
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 3: the power is da da da da. But stuff like

1092
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: this tells me that y'all don't care about black people

1093
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 3: that would even be in Congress, that would even be

1094
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 3: in the State of Representatives, the.

1095
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 4: House of Representatives. Y'all don't care about your black voter base.

1096
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: Y'all don't like This is the kind of shit that

1097
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 3: makes me be like, so then you would sell us

1098
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: out quick as you could get for the white people.

1099
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 4: That are never coming over to you, you know.

1100
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 3: Because who are the white people that will be offended

1101
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 3: by this by you not voting for this and then

1102
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: turn to Republicanism or be like, well, I don't want

1103
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 3: you to represent me anymore.

1104
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 4: Who are those white people?

1105
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 3: Because if they're white people that were voting for you already,

1106
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 3: then that's kind of weird.

1107
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 4: And if they're like what, like, how did that happen?

1108
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 4: And if there are white.

1109
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 3: People that weren't voting for you, dude, they're never coming back. Like,

1110
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: you didn't convince anyone that you're now pro cop anti

1111
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 3: black lives matter because you voted for this.

1112
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 4: It won't work on anyone. The only people you convinced

1113
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 4: that that's true are black people who won't want to

1114
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 4: vote for you now, So it's democratic exactly.

1115
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: And then and then the outreach that they do is

1116
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: fake as fuck, right, It's just those talking points, so

1117
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 2: oh yeah, and dad or whatever. It's nothing like actually

1118
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: going into community and listening to our issues. Ridiculous, what

1119
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: we really need and want?

1120
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 4: Ridiculous, man, anyway, one hundred from me, all right, it's

1121
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: the same.

1122
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 3: After his white female co star called him the N

1123
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 3: word during filming a black mail porn starts suing his

1124
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 3: former employer mm HM, so she called him the N

1125
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 3: word twice during the scene without his permissage. Footage of

1126
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 3: the incident appeared in a porn video online. Of course,

1127
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 3: during my research, I did watch the video, Okay, I

1128
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 3: had to make sure.

1129
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 6: You know.

1130
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 3: Now, I may have watched it before I knew about

1131
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 3: the controversy, but that doesn't matter, Okay.

1132
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 4: The point is research was done.

1133
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 3: I'm a porn of sewer and I have to make

1134
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 3: sure that I'm always up on the latest trends. So

1135
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 3: Maurice McKnight, who goes by the name Moe the Monster,

1136
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 3: fouled a lawsuit against DF Productions and his former supervisor,

1137
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 3: James Camp, in Los Angeles County Superior Court on Thursday.

1138
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 3: The lawsuit a legend that during the filming on a

1139
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 3: July twelve, twenty seventeen, direct.

1140
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 4: Director Camp asked.

1141
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 3: McKnight on two occasions if he would consent to being

1142
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: called the N word during filming by his white co star,

1143
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 3: and both times he refused.

1144
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I.

1145
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 3: Told him no, I don't like that. I don't like

1146
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 3: the word me. Knight told BuzzFeed News on Thursday. He

1147
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 3: said Camp told him that fans enjoy hearing the word

1148
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 3: during porn. I still don't like him, Knight said.

1149
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 5: He replied, you can hire somebody that that will.

1150
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 3: It also sounds like he waited till filming to pull

1151
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 3: this one on him, you know what I mean, Like,

1152
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 3: now that your balls deep, I have some changes to

1153
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 3: the script, like, no, nigga.

1154
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 5: What is this? Yeah?

1155
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 4: What is this? I said?

1156
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 3: I don't So he then goes on to say that

1157
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: his co star Ryan Connor uh, whose real name is

1158
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 3: Deborah Hinkle, was okay with saying it, but she's a

1159
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 3: white woman.

1160
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 4: So a white woman is okay with saying a word.

1161
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 3: Now I do now it may have put her in

1162
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 3: a bad position too, because.

1163
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 6: He's at work too.

1164
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: Right right exactly, because I've you know, I've seen many

1165
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 3: scenes with Ryan Connor and I've never seen her do

1166
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 3: this before, so you know, so it's kind of like

1167
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 3: a the director demanded this because he said the fans

1168
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 3: wanted to see it, and then you know, she's like, well,

1169
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 3: I'll say it if that's what you you know, if

1170
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 3: that's what you say you want me to do, and

1171
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 3: the black dudes like, well, actually no, I.

1172
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 4: Actually don't want to.

1173
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 6: Want it, And he said yep, he said.

1174
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 3: I said, I don't care if she's okay with it.

1175
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 3: I don't like the word and I'm not down with it.

1176
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 3: He's been working in the industry.

1177
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 4: For nine years.

1178
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 3: He also said that Hinko was standing next to the

1179
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 3: director booth both times that he refused, so she knew

1180
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 3: that he didn't want her to say it all right. However,

1181
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 3: during the feeling of his ejaculation aka the money shot,

1182
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 3: Henkle can be heard saying the word twice. Ah, so

1183
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 3: she waited right until he was about to come. That's

1184
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 3: so dirty, because that's the one thing you can't stop.

1185
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 4: Excuse me.

1186
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, he changed it right.

1187
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god. She said, give me

1188
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 3: that nigger load, give me all that nigger come. In

1189
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 3: the video uploaded to dogfark dot com, a porn company

1190
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 3: run by DF Productions. Hinko did not immediately respond to

1191
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 3: BuzzFeed News requests for comments.

1192
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 4: Of course not. She don't want to. She don't. She

1193
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 4: didn't expect it to blow up. She ain't expect to

1194
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 4: be in the paper for this.

1195
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: Uh.

1196
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 3: The usually in word in the workplace is considered by course,

1197
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 3: and I sucided the most offensive racial slur not imaginable,

1198
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: said mcnight's lawyer Dan Gillion.

1199
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 4: It embodies the evil of racism.

1200
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, dog Fark makes a lot of money catering to

1201
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 3: races in our society, so they were willing to dupe

1202
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 3: Mo into performing this scene, knowing Ryan Conner playing on

1203
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 3: using this vulgar language, and so I cleared the video

1204
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: still available on the network which specialized in interracial videos.

1205
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was wild. Is that there's a lot of

1206
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 4: interracial porn in the world.

1207
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 5: It is.

1208
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 3: It's not a bunch of people calling each other niggers,

1209
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 3: though exactly.

1210
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: I feel like this is gonna be like number one

1211
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 2: on the co co community though, Like now that they

1212
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: know listen.

1213
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: Now that they know he wasn't down and that exactly

1214
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: when he came, they gonna watch this video a million

1215
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 3: times now.

1216
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 4: Like this is my favorite one. He didn't even like him.

1217
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna talk to charts, right.

1218
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 4: Like, there's a bunch of wild shitting porem.

1219
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 3: But you know, as long as it's consentual between adults

1220
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: and ship, I mean, do whatever you want, Like I

1221
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 3: don't even if you are calling the N word. There's

1222
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 3: a person out there that wants to hear that, and

1223
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: there's some pactors that will do that performance and get

1224
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 3: paid for it to have no problem at this point.

1225
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 3: It's about the director on the scene being like, I'm

1226
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 3: going to disrespect you and right, like that's the only

1227
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 3: purpose at that point, because you know for a fact

1228
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: that he said no twice and you still did it,

1229
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: so yeah, and and the fact that she would do

1230
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 3: it it is fucked up too.

1231
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: Because she's like, oh, I'm okay with it like that.

1232
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: You don't get the fine of oko.

1233
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: Girl, like right, you don't get nor not to mention

1234
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 3: like poorn is one of those things where people are

1235
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: like everybody's viewed it, but people are so ashamed that

1236
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 3: that that the shame of it makes it like, oh,

1237
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 3: we can treat these people like shit, right, but.

1238
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,479
Speaker 6: They're human beings and they have ship like that because

1239
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 6: I've seen people on line wanting a joke and shit

1240
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 6: like no, no, no, no, when we're not going this

1241
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 6: right here was what we're not going to do? He

1242
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 6: said no, no means no, that's the end. If it

1243
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 6: was a woman, you would have a problem with it

1244
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 6: just because of the black man that doesn't want to

1245
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 6: be called nigger. All of a sudden, all the jokes

1246
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 6: want to come out, but it's not joking jokey time,

1247
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 6: because that lossuit is fucking real.

1248
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 4: Hope he win and.

1249
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: Fuck that bitch too, right exactly.

1250
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 3: Like the Me Too movement coming to poorn now, Like

1251
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 3: what's funny? Though, Yes, there's been multiple controversies in poort

1252
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 3: over the last like two years.

1253
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 4: One of them started.

1254
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 3: One of them, the James Dean thing, started before the

1255
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 3: Me Too movement, So which makes me think he kind

1256
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 3: of lucked out because he's still working because I that

1257
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 3: should have probably ended his career because he's been there

1258
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 3: one of the but that should have been And I

1259
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 3: mean I blame white women for that one, because yeah,

1260
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 3: white and like not the porn actresses, but the white

1261
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 3: media women were writing about him and he had like

1262
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 3: a column where he was featured as the feminist woke

1263
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 3: uh milk car and all this ship, so they felt

1264
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 3: like an ultimate betrayal when it was like not him, I'm.

1265
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 4: Like yeah, I'm like, y'all had no reason yeah.

1266
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 3: Him too, him too, and y'all had no reason to

1267
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: expected that man was on some other ship other than

1268
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 3: you were trying to justify why you were attracted to

1269
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: him and why you like his porn scenes.

1270
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 4: That's it, like, and.

1271
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 3: A lot of people, you know, like, no disrespect, but

1272
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 3: people do that with a lot of the people that

1273
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 3: they like.

1274
00:59:58,600 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 4: You know, it's Cardi b.

1275
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 3: He is a woke intersectional feminist because I'm a woke

1276
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 3: intersectional feminist and I like her. And then she said

1277
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 3: something that you know, you don't agree with or something

1278
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 3: that didn't go throughout the right hoops to jive up

1279
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 3: with your politics, and it's like she let me down.

1280
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 3: It's like, did she let you down? Or did you

1281
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 3: put on a pedestal? She didn't ask me put on exactly. Yeah,

1282
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 3: that's what happened with that James done. Do you know,

1283
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 3: like y'all didn't need to put him on a fucking pedestal.

1284
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 3: He just he'd be having sex, that's what he do.

1285
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 3: And he might be a piece of shit.

1286
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 4: We don't know.

1287
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 3: I mean we know now, but I mean you didn't

1288
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 3: know at the time anyway. The point the point being, uh,

1289
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 3: this ship was un called for. And yeah, because it's

1290
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 3: porn I do. It's weird because I don't know if

1291
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 3: me too is ever gonna come to sex work.

1292
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: But yes, so you know, they're not respected enough.

1293
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: Just like Hearing said, like it is a job just

1294
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: as much. So yeah, that's a valid ass lawsuit. But

1295
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: when you are you were harassed on the job.

1296
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 3: Like what's more rife for a cleaning up than that

1297
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 3: industry though, you know, because what's funny is like they

1298
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 3: regulate other shit just fine, if not better than everybody else. STDs,

1299
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 3: they regulate that shit better than regular society, like even like, uh,

1300
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 3: you know, despite James Dean, but a lot of stuff

1301
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 3: around consent, they're better at than just your regular people

1302
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 3: out here having sex. Like they're like, Nope, this is

1303
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 3: what the scene is gonna tell these are the acts

1304
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 3: you're gonna perform.

1305
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 5: This is what you got to do.

1306
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 3: This actress isn't comfortable with blanks. She doesn't like that.

1307
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 8: Uh.

1308
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Speaker 3: It's one of the it's one of the few industries

1309
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 3: where women can have like their own company, producer, studio, website,

1310
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 3: like I only do these scenes for my fans.

1311
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 4: This, that, and the other.

1312
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 3: I control everything with my brand, and you know, the

1313
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 3: Internet really helped with that for a lot of people.

1314
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 4: And then you still have shit that happens like this

1315
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 4: in it.

1316
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 3: But this is the first time I really seen a

1317
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 3: lawsuit off of it, and I hope he wins.

1318
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 6: I hope he wins too. And the thing is, is

1319
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 6: he talking about the injury. Yeah, they allowed shit to

1320
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 6: go on in the porn industry that they wouldn't allow

1321
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 6: in the regular nine to five job. If I woked

1322
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 6: up to walk up to somebody and call them a nigger,

1323
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 6: I might ask be the first thing smoking them with

1324
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 6: the fucking HR. So, so I don't.

1325
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear this.

1326
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,959
Speaker 6: It's not an exception to the rules because it's sex.

1327
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 6: Work is still worse.

1328
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 3: Especially if I said no, you know, he said he

1329
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 3: requested the footage be edited after he realized it was

1330
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 3: sold online December twenty seventeen, and that the staff refused.

1331
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 3: Alleged text messages published in the lawsuits show Cable Rosenberg,

1332
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 3: the owner of DF Productions and camp In Sodi McKnight,

1333
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 3: make your dick hard again and stop being a beta.

1334
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 3: Mal is getting embarrassed any more tortuous interference and we'll

1335
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 3: take this to court.

1336
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 4: Rosenberg, tax it.

1337
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 3: Okay, you wanna take this shit to trial, You show

1338
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 3: what you really wanna do, Okay. Buzzbeed News was unable

1339
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 3: to reach Camp and Rosenberg because of course they scared.

1340
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 3: I mean, Knight said, black adult stars already experienced a

1341
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 3: lot of discrimination while working in porn right, and he

1342
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: wanted to pursue his lawsuit to help fight against it.

1343
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 3: I want that word and that those type of stigmas

1344
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: to be eliminated from the adult industry.

1345
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 4: Wow, yep.

1346
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 3: And that's wild too, because, like I said, there's entire websites,

1347
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 3: entire series dedicated to interracial sex and they don't cross,

1348
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 3: they don't like cross that line into like it's just

1349
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 3: some white woman calling everybody nigger, you know what I mean?

1350
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 4: Like like you can apply a lot of shit people.

1351
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 4: I don't really judge people's fetter ships because you like

1352
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 4: what you like.

1353
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 3: And as long as it's not somebody being hurt or

1354
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 3: someone being forced to do something, who cares?

1355
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. People signed off for some

1356
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 4: wild shit. But but to know that the industry is actively.

1357
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 3: Out there being like, Wow, what a pussy to get

1358
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 3: get so worried about being called a nigger? I can't

1359
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 3: believe you as a white man. I just don't understand

1360
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 3: why the hell you would be so sensitive, Like, nah, bro,

1361
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 3: see you in court.

1362
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 2: Correct, right, and it's not yours say, Like I said,

1363
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 2: it ain't hers to get a vote.

1364
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: It ain't here to say what he should feel about it.

1365
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there is an industry where like they really

1366
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 3: will be like, don't call this woman a bitch, she

1367
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 3: doesn't like that, or comet like they have like that

1368
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 3: ship is in the industry too, all right, anyway, zero

1369
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 3: tw one hundred, Oh, that's one hundred for them.

1370
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 6: And like you say, the women have the control. So

1371
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 6: women can tell you what they can and cannot do it.

1372
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 6: So why can't the males in the industry who actually,

1373
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 6: you're just a fucking prop particularly for straight pulling the

1374
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 6: dick is a prop you know, you're just some man

1375
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 6: imagine that it is his. But but you you might

1376
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 6: as well be a divdo And so they have rights,

1377
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 6: you know too. And like you said, the woman can

1378
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 6: tell you can say what you will call her, what

1379
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 6: you won't call her, how you're gonna pull her hair

1380
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 6: if you go smack her in the face or the

1381
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 6: ad like she she has total control of her body.

1382
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 6: So yes, Hobie sus dow Hobie wins.

1383
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, idealistically, because I know some sets are still fucked

1384
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 3: up for women.

1385
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 4: But oh, yes they are, you know I'm saying.

1386
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 3: Of course the interview pay it does promote itself as

1387
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 3: like will the women run things?

1388
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 4: And then you hear some shit like this.

1389
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 3: And you're like, dude, thing or did that or was

1390
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 3: it that? Because women run things? Ryan Conner was out

1391
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 3: here calling people nigger, like what you're gonna do?

1392
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1393
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 6: And also they take advantage of particularly younger women. That's

1394
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 6: why a lot of this pony is targeted towards eighteen

1395
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 6: and nineteen year olds trying to be funny because they

1396
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,959
Speaker 6: know your lack of knowledge. A lot of those women

1397
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 6: that have control of their bodies, they're older women where

1398
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 6: they go with you ain't gonna do well?

1399
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 3: This is the older Worman has said this ship too,

1400
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 3: So that's why that's a shame yeap.

1401
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 4: What about zero to one hundred?

1402
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred plus, like Jesus.

1403
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 4: That's it's one hundred for me too. Uh.

1404
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 3: That's the sad part is that everybody because like people

1405
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 3: didn't know that this was a problem until just now

1406
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 3: because the scene came out in December, he said, So

1407
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 3: that means people have been jacking off to that part

1408
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 3: or like people been coming to that part specifically, like yes,

1409
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 3: and that's really the one part that he was like

1410
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 3: what the fuck?

1411
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 4: So they cut that part of the video out like that.

1412
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 3: The video ends abruptly, like he looked at the camera

1413
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 3: like the the end, the end of the scene.

1414
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 4: That's it, right. We took him choking the camera, man out,

1415
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 4: come on. All right, let's okay, let's get to that.

1416
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 6: We took him knocking out the lights and fucking up

1417
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 6: the projection crew.

1418
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 4: We right right running that motherfucker down.

1419
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 3: He gotta start a hashtag. Man, I'm gonna go with

1420
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 3: BBC BBC two. That's what he's gonna have to do.

1421
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: That's it first, y'all right, there's gonna be a.

1422
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 4: Whole lot of black actors coming out like me too, Man,

1423
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 4: they got me on the set. I can't remember that.

1424
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 3: Oh I worked with Spareen Thomas and I didn't even

1425
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 3: know she was gonna do that. That's a scub bag reference,

1426
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 3: all my old school stumb bags on the top. All right, guys,

1427
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 3: let's go to guess the race.

1428
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 4: Now, that's time for some guests. That's right, it's guest

1429
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 4: the race time.

1430
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 5: Now that it's time for some guests.

1431
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 4: The race that's right, it's guest the Race time.

1432
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 3: But that's right, it's time for guests The Race, the

1433
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 3: number one game show going across all the podcasts land

1434
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 3: where we read the play news articles from all over

1435
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 3: the globe, and we asked our guests today Tanja to guess.

1436
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 4: The Race and Karen plus the chat.

1437
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 3: Room play along and they are all racist. All right,

1438
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 3: let's get into some kissing and some racing. Our first

1439
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 3: guest the Race is a doctor who made music videos

1440
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 3: in the operating room.

1441
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 4: She is now facing several malepractice suits.

1442
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 5: Music video and room?

1443
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 6: What kind of music was y'all playing?

1444
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: Wait? Well, put you exactly? You give us a hint?

1445
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 3: And Rose Smith, let me see, doctor Window. I'll see

1446
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 3: if I can play the vid. It's loaded in the background.

1447
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 3: You know how these things go. Doctor Wendell boots About

1448
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 3: website calls her Atlanta's most experienced cosmetic surgeon, but a

1449
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 3: Channel two Action News consumer investigation discovered she also had.

1450
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 4: Plenty of experience dealing with malpractice cases.

1451
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 5: Oh shit.

1452
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 4: About, I don't know if I'm pronouncing right.

1453
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 3: Refused to answer consumer investigator Jim Strickland's questions about several

1454
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 3: lawsuits seven about seven lawsuits against her, and more than

1455
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 3: twenty YouTube videos featuring the dermatologists dancing and singing around exposed,

1456
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:43,919
Speaker 3: unmoving patients.

1457
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 4: Some show or some show her making decisions while she

1458
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 4: sings and converts to the.

1459
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 8: Camera whatever whatever drugs she gave them, Yeah, they were

1460
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 8: knocked out right, so you know they ain't No, they

1461
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 8: didn't consent to it.

1462
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 4: They couldn't know.

1463
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 3: I mean, who would can how would you even bring

1464
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 3: that up in the Okay, So we're gonna be working

1465
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 3: on your on your skin. Uh now, well you're right

1466
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 3: find this form because sometimes while we're working, I will, like,

1467
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 3: you know, kind of dance and play music and we'll

1468
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 3: record it put it on YouTube, so.

1469
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 4: You know, you know how it goes. So just sign here.

1470
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,879
Speaker 4: I'm sure your insurance will cover you. Got some good insurance.

1471
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 9: I'm Jim Strickling because you're investigator from channel to WSP Television.

1472
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: You have declined to sit.

1473
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 9: Down interview with me, so I'm coming here to ask

1474
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 9: you if you have anything to say about the lawsuits

1475
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 9: against you or the YouTube videos.

1476
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 4: Oh it's loading. Uh, don't do this.

1477
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 10: Asthmetic surgeon walk to way.

1478
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 3: Lot, his video keeps stopping this starting and like it's

1479
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 3: trying to start over anyway. You had videos, Well, I'm

1480
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 3: seeing if he's in a newscat, it might play the

1481
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 3: videos for us. But the Firefox decided fucked me in

1482
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 3: the middle of this doctor brute.

1483
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,839
Speaker 9: I'm Jim Strickland, consumer investigator for Channel to WSP Television.

1484
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 9: You have declined to sit down interview with me, so

1485
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 9: I'm coming here to ask you if you have anything

1486
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 9: to say about the lawsuits against you or the YouTube

1487
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 9: videos posted online.

1488
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 10: This Gwinnett cosmetic surgeon walked away rather than talk about

1489
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 10: this for a boarding for the camera on YouTube while

1490
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 10: slicing into a patient.

1491
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 6: You could not present a patient in a more undignified manner.

1492
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 10: She also wouldn't talk about the patients left with unflattering results.

1493
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,600
Speaker 10: It's more like Freddy Krueger cut my stomach or the

1494
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 10: woman left brain damaged after eight hours on the table.

1495
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 4: And that was the first time I ever saw my

1496
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 4: mom helpless.

1497
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:11,520
Speaker 10: What our investigation reveals about the self proclaimed best cosmetic

1498
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 10: surgeon in Atlanta Monday at five on Channel two Action News.

1499
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 4: More like, what.

1500
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 6: So this is black?

1501
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 4: Care's going with black?

1502
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going with black? And then want to listen

1503
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 2: to a voice. I'm like, now she's using a good,

1504
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 2: cold switching voice.

1505
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:34,600
Speaker 3: All right, let's check check the chat and see what

1506
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 3: they believe. Black, get your buddhett to clap like this

1507
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 3: call my office black. Yeah, her name was doctor Boutet,

1508
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 3: Like that's kind of on the nose. Cis took being

1509
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 3: the Beyonce of her feel too literally, black, what brain damage?

1510
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 4: That's not a race.

1511
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 3: That's daughter will now hesitate the Collon police on a

1512
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 3: black patient of the amnesia white and I'm sorry, oh

1513
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 3: twerking while working black black doctor pussy papa black, cut it,

1514
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 3: cut it, cut it black, black, black, black, that ass

1515
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 3: up black back, that ass up black turned down and

1516
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 3: surgery for what black?

1517
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 6: Wow, I bet you they wish they did have amnesia.

1518
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 3: I know, Okay, well apparently guys, you all almost all

1519
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 3: you went black and almost all of you gotta correct.

1520
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 5: Some of you did.

1521
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 4: One of you went white though you don't know what happened.

1522
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 5: No, I mean, can we see hud the videos.

1523
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 4: I'm putting it on the screen. This is her during

1524
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 4: the video. They didn't hold the phone sideway, so you

1525
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 4: know she's black.

1526
01:12:55,400 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, did a squat like this is her over

1527
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 3: a patient that is uh passed out talking about that way?

1528
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 4: Do I you need to cut it?

1529
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: Yo? She over had ad libs in there, DJ CALLI

1530
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: wasn't there, like that's crazy?

1531
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 8: Wow?

1532
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah see.

1533
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 3: Oh man, she took over for the nine nine in

1534
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:31,919
Speaker 3: the two thousand, she did. A Florida woman, Oh Florida,

1535
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 3: Oh oh, here we go. A Florida woman pulled a

1536
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 3: gun on a chopper who cut in front of her.

1537
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 4: Publics Oh shit. Authority said.

1538
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 3: One was accused of pulling a gun on another shopper

1539
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 3: outside of Florida Supermarket after the argument that began in

1540
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 3: the checkout line.

1541
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 6: Oh shit just started in the store, went outside the store.

1542
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 4: See this why he's supposed to let the publish person

1543
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 4: carry your bags out.

1544
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 6: I wouldn't have eliminated the whole miss all.

1545
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 3: The Lehigh County Sheriff's Office charge thirty six year old

1546
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 3: Jessica Mock with aggravated assault with a daily weapon without

1547
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 3: intent to kill. The Tallahassee Democrat reported Mock was at

1548
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 3: a checkout lane at a public's grocery store Sunday, but

1549
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 3: left the line briefly for a forgotten item. Returning to

1550
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 3: final woman had gotten ahead of her car. She left

1551
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 3: the line. She left the line. The sheriff statement says

1552
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 3: to argue that the other woman changed lines as the

1553
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 3: victim was returning to her car outside the Tallahassee Area supermarket.

1554
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 3: Mark then pointed a handgun at the victim. Court records

1555
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 3: do not listen to attorney for Mock.

1556
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 4: Guess the race. That was her name again, Jessica Mock.

1557
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying white because of the guns.

1558
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 4: Okay, Tan just saying white. Karen's thinking it over.

1559
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go white too, all right, Mock.

1560
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 4: Let's check the chat room.

1561
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 3: The sign said ten items are less white. She like

1562
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 3: this bitch got thirteen items. Where's my guay?

1563
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 4: It's my gat? What what white? White? Only whites all

1564
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 4: out guns in Florida? Ah, the truth hurts?

1565
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 5: Uh?

1566
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 4: White? Why didn't they get the black person next to me? White?

1567
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:17,799
Speaker 4: White upset a rattler.

1568
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 3: Black white womans bring up flash breathing on a lack side.

1569
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 3: I even pause it. It's still playing all right anyway,

1570
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 3: like what you're doing. Uh, I was trying to get

1571
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 3: to the rest of y'all guesses.

1572
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 4: Let me see what else? Stop? Oh white woman who

1573
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 4: will shed tears when the cops show up. I don't

1574
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 4: know why. White. I don't know. White people probably call

1575
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 4: the police.

1576
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 3: I'm going black. Let me speak to a manager white

1577
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 3: and the ad had no stall either.

1578
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 4: I don't know what that means. Uh, the correct answer

1579
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 4: is white. Some of you did miss it? Now you

1580
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 4: went black screen?

1581
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's Becky for sure.

1582
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 4: She's very white. Mm hmm. She was out here pulling

1583
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 4: guns all motherfuckers at the damn The other.

1584
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 6: Lady was like, fucking it, went to another lane.

1585
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, she moved, she got out of my girls.

1586
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 3: Saint Walmart. You bringing that up in the publics, right,

1587
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 3: thank you? Shopping at the ap motherfuckers.

1588
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 6: I'm all right, this ain't crougus. I know publicans is like,

1589
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 6: we didn't imitation the Harris tita?

1590
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 5: What the price is?

1591
01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: Just a miss?

1592
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 4: All right, let's see we'll do another one before we

1593
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 4: go to the bonus round. We got a little extra time.

1594
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 3: Mom admits in bezzling four hundred thousand dollars from the

1595
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 3: nine year old from her nine year old son's medical trust.

1596
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:23,879
Speaker 4: What yes, Karen, mm hmmm. Like with Chary stage scheme

1597
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 4: and Michigan.

1598
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 3: Mother has admitted in Beslyn more than four hundred thousand

1599
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 3: dollars from her nine year old sons to state. Cassie

1600
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 3: Pruden Rivera, thirty two, of Eden County, Michigan, pleaded no

1601
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 3: contest to one count of embezzling more than one hundred

1602
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, and it's scheduled to be sentenced June twenty eighth.

1603
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 4: She faces up to twenty.

1604
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 3: Years in prison, but based on the lack of previous conventions,

1605
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 3: her citizen guidelines probably will top out at twenty months.

1606
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 3: Pruden Rivera's son, Hayden Rivera, has cerebral palsy, permanent brain damage,

1607
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:00,560
Speaker 3: and other hell albums.

1608
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 4: According to court records.

1609
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 3: At a hearing that led to the charge, Eden County

1610
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 3: Sheriff's Office, Deputy Adam Simon testified that Pruden Rivere Seed

1611
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 3: nearly six hundred and fifty thousand dollars on behalf of

1612
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 3: her son as part of a settlement after Hayden suffered

1613
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 3: birth trauma. She spent about two hundred and forty thousand

1614
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 3: dollars on a house near Charlotte, Michigan, that is owned

1615
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 3: by her son's estate, but investigators could not find any

1616
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 3: other justifiable expenicits. The rest of the money is unaccounted for,

1617
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 3: and nobody can get her to call them back. Prudent

1618
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 3: reve fan cond them niggas. Pruda Rivere also leading guilty. Look,

1619
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 3: I'm just say in turn, I'm not his mama.

1620
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm an unpaid mama, right, Okay? Is it my

1621
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 4: fault for y'all none existent people showing up right now?

1622
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 5: I'm a god mama.

1623
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 3: Prude river also pleaded guilty to one count each of

1624
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 3: animal cruelty and having unlicensed dogs. Both are misdemeanors. Should

1625
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 3: be prohibited from owning a pet for five years. Her

1626
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 3: attorney did Mike Vick shaking his head right now, like, oh,

1627
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 3: that's it. Her attorney did not, right, Okay, so that's it.

1628
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 3: She could just go back okay, wow, wow, misdemeanors. Her

1629
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 3: attorney did not immediately respond to a message.

1630
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 4: She's missing.

1631
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 3: She's listed as Cassie Rivera or Casey Rivera court records,

1632
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: but she's being sued in civil court connection with the

1633
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 3: missing money. Records from the case showed that Pruden Rivera,

1634
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 3: her former husband, Hi Genio Rivera, who was a soldier

1635
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 3: at the time of Hayden's birth, sued the army after

1636
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 3: their sons, some resizers and brain damage shortly after birth.

1637
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 3: The couple eventually reached the settlement that called for the

1638
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 3: Justice Department to place more than three million dollars into

1639
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 3: a reversionary trust that can only be used by for

1640
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 3: Hayden's medical care if he dies. For the funds and

1641
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 3: depleted the balances return to the government. Another chunk of

1642
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 3: the money, about five hundred and fifty thousand, went directly

1643
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 3: to Hayden to pay for living explicites that may not

1644
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 3: be directly tied to permanent disabilities. Casey Pruden Rivera was

1645
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 3: named Conservative of his state, which meant she he was

1646
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 3: supposed to manage Hayden's finances by spending his money on their.

1647
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 4: Ways that directly benefited Hayden.

1648
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,839
Speaker 3: But rather than the positive money into a restricted account,

1649
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 3: Prude and Rivera spent the money as if it were

1650
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 3: on said Ken o'dean, who was an attorney. And then

1651
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 3: they just recently got a divorce that was finalized with

1652
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 3: Rivera granted custody of Hayden and the couple's other son,

1653
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 3: chap Protake. The services had previously placed the children into

1654
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,480
Speaker 3: Rivera's care on the temporary basis have to find an animal, feeces,

1655
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 3: riting food, garbage, and dirty diapers throughout the residents.

1656
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 4: According to court records.

1657
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,759
Speaker 3: Wow, she was wild and anyway, guess the race, Karen White,

1658
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 3: Karen's going white?

1659
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 4: What about you? Tanja man?

1660
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: That that name tripped me out to Rivera. But I'm

1661
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: gonna go white Latina.

1662
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 4: All right, let's check the chat room.

1663
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 3: White latinis community, white collar crime target shopperings free white,

1664
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 3: having more than one hundred dollars in a banking account

1665
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,560
Speaker 3: and having a state for her son white so you

1666
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 3: can get some money from these daytime ass white passing

1667
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 3: Latina white bad hombred with two more much money.

1668
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 4: What what white Latina?

1669
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 3: All that all this extra story equals white, white man

1670
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 3: is white. I didn't know I had to license dogs white.

1671
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 3: The correct answer is she was white.

1672
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 7: Guys.

1673
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 3: Y'all the white people got her, and I think a

1674
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 3: couple of people. Everybody said white or white Lautina. Now

1675
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 3: she is not lieutenants at all. She's a white woman.

1676
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 3: I think who married a Lautenis man and.

1677
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,480
Speaker 1: Took my boyfriend.

1678
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 6: She does, she does have the I won't speak to

1679
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 6: a manager right now.

1680
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 5: God damn it.

1681
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 1: She absolutely that's it.

1682
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely has to cut. Guys.

1683
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:53,560
Speaker 3: She got that I date black man haircut exclusively like

1684
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 3: she she's called She's Ryan connored the few few brothers,

1685
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 3: if you know what I'm saying. Yeah, all right, let's

1686
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 3: go to the bonus round and we'll wrap this bad

1687
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 3: boy up.

1688
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 4: Where's my bonus round? Music?

1689
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 2: Uh?

1690
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 4: Which one is this one? All right?

1691
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 1: The race?

1692
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 3: That's right, double the points, double the ras bonus round.

1693
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 3: I guess the race so far both kept caring tanja

1694
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 3: most of the chat room.

1695
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 4: Three for three. Let's see if they can go a

1696
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 4: rare four for four. All right, we'll see.

1697
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 8: Mm hmm.

1698
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 4: How about this one?

1699
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:53,440
Speaker 10: Mmmmm?

1700
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 4: Which one should we do?

1701
01:22:59,040 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 6: Oh?

1702
01:22:59,360 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 4: Here's the one.

1703
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 3: Lawrence County, Tennessee sheriff and captain arrested and accused of

1704
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 3: using inmate labor for personal gain. What Special agents with

1705
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 3: Tennessee Bureau of Investigations and investigators with the Tennessee Comptroller

1706
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,799
Speaker 3: of the Treasury conducted a joint investigation that has resulted

1707
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 3: in the indictment and arrest of a Lawrence County Sheriff

1708
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 3: Jimmy Brown and Captain Adam Brewer. May eighth, the twenty

1709
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 3: second District Attorney General Brent Cooper requested the authorities begin

1710
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 3: investigating activities at the Lawrence County, Tennessee Sheriff's apartment. Agents

1711
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 3: say they uncovered evidence that from twenty fifteen to twenty seventeen,

1712
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 3: Sheriff Brown allowed inmates to be used for labor by

1713
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:45,799
Speaker 3: various county employees at their personal residence or for personal business.

1714
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:47,799
Speaker 6: What so he took him off site?

1715
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 4: Person, They're right, I hate slavery.

1716
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: Labor. I hate slavery.

1717
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 4: This is ridiculous.

1718
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 3: Investigators say Sheriff Brown uses position to circumvent the bond

1719
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 3: process for some arrested individuals, releasing them from jail without

1720
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 3: requiring them to pay for the second for the secure

1721
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:14,759
Speaker 3: bond as ordered by a judge. The investigation also determined

1722
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 3: Captain Brewer had falsified tire sheets and misled investigators as

1723
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 3: to the accuracy of the reported hours work that department.

1724
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 3: On Thursday, the grand jury returned indictments charging Jimmy Rex

1725
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 3: Brown with two counts of official misconduct and one kind

1726
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 3: of use of inmate labor for personal gain, and one

1727
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 3: count of tampering with evidence. Oh man, that's surprised they

1728
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 3: actually had those law. The law for the user inmate

1729
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 3: labor on the books, a lot of country, lots of it.

1730
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 3: Adam Brewers charged of one kind official misconduct. Both Brown

1731
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 3: and Brewer were arrested Thursday and booked in the Lawrence

1732
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 3: County Jail. Brown Brown's bond set twenty five thousand and

1733
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:51,759
Speaker 3: Brewers set a five thousand.

1734
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 4: Guess the race of both of these men white?

1735
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 1: All right, we whites, Sam Jackson and Jay Joe.

1736
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 4: Anyway, let's take the chat. White slavery is a choice? White? White?

1737
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 4: Who's hollow hill billy hosts? White?

1738
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 6: Uh?

1739
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 3: Trump loving cops, white enslaverns are already enslaved. White. This

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01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 3: is a white mess. Uh oh, this is white mess.

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01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 3: The correct answer is and everyone got it white. The

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01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 3: saddest part to me is that those inmates was in

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01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 3: mental slavery. You know, they could have just said not

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01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 3: to do it here.

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01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 4: You know how it is. You know, that's what Kanye

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01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,799
Speaker 4: was we were talking about. That's it, the mental slavery.

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01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: They had a choice for all that. Nobody Nobody said no.

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01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 4: Nobody just said I'm not gonna do.

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01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: Kanye subscribed from slavery.

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Speaker 4: I would like to ascribe from the email the slavery

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01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 4: email chain. Thank you.

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01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: Thank you right now. This is stupid. This is absolutely ridiculous.

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01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 6: Get this get out of here.

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01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 1: We are adult and this is ridiculous.

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01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 3: Cut the crap, Cut the crap, all right, let's get

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01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 3: speaking of ridiculous things that need to be cut.

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01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:48,600
Speaker 4: Sword ratching this time okah on guard.

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01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 3: Ex security guard launched a brutal attack on the engineer

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01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 3: with a Samurai sword.

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01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 5: It was mine of his business.

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01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:03,799
Speaker 3: Gordon Carter, the thirty two selected Kevin Mason at random

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01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 3: when he saw.

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01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 4: Him leaving BAE Systems.

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Speaker 3: And watching it at the end of his shift last February,

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01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 3: and he ran in him, screaming with the weapon raised

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01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 3: above his head. Newcastle Crown Court heard that the fifty

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01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 3: eight year old victim had noticed his attackers standing near

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01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 3: a car outside the munitions factory and was able to

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01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 3: put his arm up to protect his face and head

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Speaker 3: from the forceful blow.

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01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 4: Mister Mason, who feared for his.

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01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 3: Life during the violence, suffered injuries down to the bone

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01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:33,759
Speaker 3: of his arm and needed surgery.

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01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 4: Carter told Carter tow believes in the interview that he.

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01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 3: Had hatred for BAE Systems, which he had resigned from,

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01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 3: despite being considered at one time a model employee, and

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01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 3: said mister Mason had been the first person he saw

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01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 3: as he stood outside today.

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Speaker 4: Well, see this.

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01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 3: Kind of explains why ba, he might not have wanted

1781
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 3: you working for them. The court, you know, I mean

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01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 3: kind of made the point for him. The court heard

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01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 3: before the attack, Carter had targeted his hatred towards former

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01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 3: colleagues cars and had smashed windows, scratched or even covered

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01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 3: them in paint while they were parked outside homes. Damn,

1786
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 3: he took that shit personal. One worker's bay window at

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01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 3: his house was smashed. He smashed people house.

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01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 4: Carter Ferry Night. Oh I don't know it's race, but okay.

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01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 3: Carter Washing Coast, Washington admitted to wounded with a ten

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Speaker 3: and five offenses of criminal damage, with a further three

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01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 3: to be taken into account. The court heard mister Mason

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01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 3: suvered damage to the bone, muscles, and nerves in the

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01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 3: attack and can no longer enjoy fitness activities like golf,

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01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 3: swimming and cycling as he had before. Mister Mason told

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01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,679
Speaker 3: the police his family and work life had been majorly

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01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 3: affected by his injury. Right, and it was his jack

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01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 3: and it was his jack off hand yep, he reported yep.

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01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 3: She's like, I couldn't even come. I couldn't even come

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01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 3: when she called them nigga twice. What was I supposed

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01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 3: to do? He said it a victim in fact statement,

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01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 3: my granddaughter said, I'm not funny anymore.

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Speaker 1: All.

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01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 3: It really upsets me to think that this man had done.

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01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 3: What this man has done to me has had such

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01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 3: an effect on my character. He's hurt my whole family.

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01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 3: Mister Mason said he suffered in ways he did not

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01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:12,919
Speaker 3: as he did not expect as a result of the brutality.

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01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 3: That day, the court heard Carter had been diagnosed with

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01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 3: paranoid schizophrenia, but he was he had been responding to treatment.

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01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 3: He had made claims about being persecuted by Boston and

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01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 3: staff of the company tried to kill him.

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01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 6: Uh.

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01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,560
Speaker 3: Judge Amanda Rippon ordered Carter to be detained in the

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01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 3: hospital indefinitely and made a special restriction which means his

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01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 3: release will be overseen by a tribunal involved a judge

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01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 3: and the.

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01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 4: Ministry of Justice.

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01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 3: So, yep, yep, yep, that's what happened. Man got a

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01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 3: hold of a sword and decided he was gonna fuck

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01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 3: somebody's life up at random.

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01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 4: Right, So crazy.

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01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 3: Right anyway, man, Tanja, tell everybody where they could find

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01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 3: you with no contacts.

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01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 4: All right, go ahead, you can find me.

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01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 1: Go ahead, you can find me at Embrace the Jy

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01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I'm on Facebook. My name so I just

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01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 1: said them on Instagram alsoas Embrace the Jay.

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01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 3: Cool and yeah man, go out and support the indiegog

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Speaker 4: Go to their YouTube page.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back later on. We appreciate you all listening.

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01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 3: We still for premium people have to do a walking

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01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 3: there recap tonight for fear to walking Dead. So we'll

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01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 3: see you guys late in the night. For the rest

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Speaker 3: of y'all slow jam albums. Yeah, rest of y'all will

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Speaker 3: see y'all later in the week. It looks like Boston

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Speaker 3: Sports gonna probably be on.

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Speaker 4: Wednesday this week. So until next time, I love you.

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Speaker 4: Try