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Speaker 1: I never told you production by Heart Radio, and today

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Speaker 1: we are bringing back a classic on friendsgiving.

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Speaker 2: I forgot we did this, the history of friends Giving.

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Speaker 2: We love it. Yes, as you are at the time

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Speaker 2: of recording, about to go on your friends give miss

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Speaker 2: Friends Give Miss, which I actually kind of prefer because

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Speaker 2: then you're confining two things. That's all we can do.

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Speaker 2: We were too busy. Yeah, yeah, it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I think that's smart, but that in the honor of that,

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Speaker 1: I did want to bring this one back because I

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Speaker 1: do think, yeah, a lot of us are trying to

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Speaker 1: meet up with people in any way that we can.

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Speaker 1: The scheduling can be so tough. But the history of

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Speaker 1: friendsgiving is really interesting, So please enjoy this classic episode.

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Speaker 3: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha.

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Speaker 1: I know kind of stuff I ever told you protector

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Speaker 1: to iHeartRadio. So today we wanted to talk about friendsgiving

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Speaker 1: and where it came from and what it asked to

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Speaker 1: do with emotional labor, especially for women that we've talked

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Speaker 1: about before.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of us are feeling it right now.

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Speaker 1: Samantha and I just kind of had a mini distress

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Speaker 1: moment before doing this, So I want to ask you, Samantha,

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Speaker 1: do you celebrate friendsgiving?

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Speaker 3: So for a little while we did, and I just

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Speaker 3: remembered I had two different ones for two very different reasons.

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Speaker 3: Holidays are awful for me. I don't love it. Trying

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Speaker 3: to get better about it every year. I think I've

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Speaker 3: told this a story before. Every year, I really try,

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Speaker 3: sit in alone on my couch. And of course, just

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Speaker 3: the last year with the pandemic and coronavirus going around,

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Speaker 3: and then my whole family got affected like real hard,

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Speaker 3: so it's really easy for me to step out of

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Speaker 3: that one. But of course that also meant we didn't

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Speaker 3: do the friends giving that we have done before. I

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Speaker 3: will say I had one group of friends who did

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Speaker 3: We did that for a couple of years and then

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Speaker 3: that kind of fell through because they ended up having

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Speaker 3: I went to another one, which was beautiful and they

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Speaker 3: So my two really good friends, one of them is

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Speaker 3: I bought cookies. You're welcome, because I just get nervous

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Speaker 2: It's always delightful, try.

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Speaker 3: I really do enjoy it. I think it got bigger

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: But that actually quickly changed to being like a secret

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Speaker 3: have to take away gifts from each other or whatever

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Speaker 3: so it was Friendsgiving obviously, but also geared towards Christmas.

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Speaker 3: It became that, right, right.

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Speaker 1: I think I also celebrate several different friends givings because

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of different friends groups that just

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Speaker 3: Do you know. I've been thinking about this and maybe

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a real I get really nervous about one

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Speaker 3: Each other, and I am I feel that same way.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like all of my friends should be

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Speaker 1: I will I will intersect the friend groups and it

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Speaker 1: I get so worried about it, and I'm always like,

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Speaker 1: But anyway, so for a while, I was going to

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Speaker 1: of get co opted. We're going to talk all about that.

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Speaker 1: I still love friends Giving, but it was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: now I've gone from like two celebrations to seven, and.

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Speaker 2: So I celebrate. I'm going to one this Friday, hopefully

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Speaker 1: This Friday, because friends Giving usually takes place the Friday, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. It usually takes place the weekend

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Speaker 2: I like those friends, but they also.

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Speaker 1: Lived like an hour away, so it wasn't right super

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, Caroline previously of stuff ONM never told

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Speaker 1: Right, I know, And I always do try to make

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Speaker 2: Usually throws like two days later or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had some I have some friends that have

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Speaker 1: doing it since high school, which is actually when it

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Speaker 2: So that makes sense to me, easier.

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Speaker 1: To kind of mash it together, right, Okay, So we

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Speaker 1: Friends Giving is typically a gathering of friends of a

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Speaker 1: So for some it's a way to get out of

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Speaker 1: Like not everyone can afford to do that, right, and

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Speaker 2: Something like we were hosting nice. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Case in point, ye, my family, which is also why

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Speaker 3: I am very honest and open. I love my family,

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Speaker 3: And the first time I was able to like not

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Speaker 1: For me, like growing up, we would go my mom's

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Speaker 2: Liked it, but I much preferred it when we.

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Speaker 1: Started doing it with like just our family, just a

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Speaker 2: It was much less stress. Even for me as a child.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I was picking up on all

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Speaker 1: these things right right. So history wise, as far as

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Speaker 1: we know, the word first appeared in writing in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and seven on places like Twitter, A mashup of

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Speaker 1: friends and Thanksgiving used to describe an informal meal shared

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Speaker 3: and two thousand and nine. Yes, so they're going to

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Speaker 3: time she finished telling me or you or someone else,

442
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 3: she could have already done it in her mind, that

443
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: is her rationale. So having people around her, and she's

444
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 3: kicked me out at the kitchen many a time, just underfoot,

445
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 3: I just need to get this done. Literally being told

446
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 3: that the only person at some point in time she

447
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 3: finally trusted was my sister, who was almost as anal

448
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 3: as her, so it was like right on par with

449
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,239
Speaker 3: each other. So she was able to trust that. As

450
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 3: she's gotten like much older and our family has grown

451
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 3: much more extensively, she has kind of cared less and

452
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 3: stepped back, which also is why we'll have Thanksgiving dinner

453
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 3: and it's sandwiches. And I understand why, but that.

454
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Speaker 6: Is one of the biggest disappointments I think I've ever

455
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 6: gone through, because I don't typically, you know, Christmas, I'm

456
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 6: not always home home and my mother is a good

457
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 6: cook and they're all great, and yes, I know it

458
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 6: takes a lot of et her, but I'm.

459
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 3: Like, oh, this is my Thanksgiving holiday mail. Okay, But

460
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 3: again I understand why, and I get like, yeah, I'm

461
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 3: over it. She's over it. She's done, she's done. She's

462
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 3: done this for fifty something years now. Yeah, it's just like,

463
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: and I've had to be doing this for so long.

464
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: Done, You're right, right, it makes sense.

465
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: We've definitely there are definitely things that we've slowly kind

466
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: of let go. We're not going to do that anymore,

467
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: and we're not going to get out the nice.

468
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: Whatever.

469
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, unless my mom feels fancy mm hmm, then I

470
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 3: do paper plates right right, yeah, just so much.

471
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: It is a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot.

472
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 1: And actually, that was another thing I wanted to bring up,

473
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: is the reason Thanksgiving is on a Thursday in the

474
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Speaker 1: first place, is so that the wife would have time

475
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: to make this big feast for her family and the

476
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: traditional Sunday meal that used to be like every Sunday

477
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: you would do this.

478
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: So that is why it's on Thursday.

479
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, right, Oh my goodness. I did not

480
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: know that. I'm very upset about the situation. And I

481
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 3: guess it makes sense because we know that Thanksgiving and

482
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: I know there's been an episode, So if y'all want

483
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 3: to go listen to it, please go about Sara and

484
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: Sifa Haill who is the godmother or the mother of Thanksgiving,

485
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 3: which happened during the Lincoln administration so way back when

486
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 3: as a way of unifying the country. We know that

487
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 3: that was the whole intent, and during that time, of course,

488
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: the women of the household would make a giant face

489
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: and or have their people, if there were enslaved people,

490
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 3: make an entire feast for whomever. Not knowing much about it,

491
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 3: I'm assuming it's also a rich person holiday at that

492
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 3: point in time about who can afford food and when,

493
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 3: because we know that through a whole thing. But the

494
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 3: first Thanksgivings were originated back to sixteen hundreds, and they

495
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: weren't as cute as you think they were, and a

496
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: lot of massacres happen as in fact, we know some

497
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 3: tribes and some communities will actually do this Thanksgiving us

498
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: a day of mourning, as it should. So it's not

499
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 3: pretty in any way whatsoever. And we have completely taken

500
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: it to a whole different realm. Yes, I do go

501
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 3: down dark paths, apologies, But in knowing all of that,

502
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 3: it's kind of like, oh, yeah, of course, what would

503
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 3: put more labor on women and not giving them a

504
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 3: day of like hey, this is a day of us.

505
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: It's more of a no, this is double your work,

506
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: good luck, right, And also this is the way to

507
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 3: save our community because we are ripped a shreds because

508
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 3: you know, the enslaved people, we will actually want to

509
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 3: have freedom and rights and abolish all of this nastiness,

510
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 3: but we need to keep the family together because you

511
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 3: know Jesus.

512
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I did it.

513
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of the when we did that episode,

514
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: say jesse Fa Hale, which it really is an interesting story.

515
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of this traditional Sunday meal. There could

516
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: be another reason it's on Thursday, but I know that

517
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: it is at least one of the reasons.

518
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: She was like, we'll do it on Thursday.

519
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: I don't give the women time to prepare for the

520
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: traditional Sunday meal.

521
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: Won't mess with that.

522
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: So I mean, that's that's pretty telling right there, right.

523
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I also think that friends giving just makes sense.

524
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: And I know I think I was.

525
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: Celebrating it before it was a thing, Like we didn't

526
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: call it that, but it we were doing that, right.

527
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: It just makes sense to me, Like you want to

528
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: hang out with friends during the holidays. It might be

529
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: the only time you have off a bunch of your

530
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: friends and certain groups. Yeah, and so to me it

531
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: makes sense in that way. And also just want to

532
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 1: put in here. The term friendsgiving is often misattributed to

533
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: the show Friends.

534
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: That is not where it came from.

535
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: But they did celebrate what we would now call friendsgiving

536
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: on the show just right right.

537
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: I think I remember that? Is that the Turkey episode?

538
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: I mean they did it several in several episodes, but yes,

539
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: it is that one.

540
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do remember, because I thought that was nasty

541
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: and I was like, why would you do this to yourself?

542
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 3: I think we also did that before friendsgiving became a thing,

543
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 3: and it was a way of exchanging presence in between

544
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 3: because of course you couldn't do it during family times

545
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 3: that I would want to give gifts to my friends.

546
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: And of course in high school you hung out with

547
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: your friends all the time, so you needed to make

548
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: that happen in order to do the gift exchange all

549
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 3: of that. I think later on it became a whole

550
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: different level of sharing food. At one point in I

551
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 3: was just going to restaurants and hanging out, and honestly,

552
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 3: like I was thinking about it for this year. I'm like,

553
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 3: I think I might just rent a back room invite

554
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: ten people. And that's the entirety of friendsgiving is. I

555
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: don't want to host it at my house. I don't

556
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: want to make anybody clean. I don't want anybody to

557
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 3: have to cook. We're just going to sit and chill

558
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 3: and hang period. And I feel like that would be

559
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: And we could also support someone who was having to

560
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: work during the holidays and get them money.

561
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 5: That sounds nice. Sounds nice.

562
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: So to close out, I did want to talk about,

563
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: you know, some memories and traditions because I remember when

564
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: the pandemic was in full spring last year and we

565
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: were trying to think of ways to celebrate the holidays

566
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: in a time where it's so kind of different and

567
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: risky and ways to do so. So in that way,

568
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: we'll talk about some of the stuff that with some

569
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: of our memories and some things you might be interested in.

570
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: And what I will say is I have been doing

571
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: cheese giving for about five or six years, and that

572
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: I have to say has been a hit with a

573
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: lot of people have written in about cheese giving, some

574
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: people have started celebrating it on their own, and I

575
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: applaud this that I'm very happy. But essentially, cheese giving

576
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: is a particular group of friends.

577
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: Of mine who all love cheese.

578
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: And this is our specific friends giving, and we all

579
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: we get together, we make cheeseboard.

580
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: It's become like maybe I'll post some pictures.

581
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: It has become a much bigger thing than it used

582
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: to be, where we'd all bring, like, you know, maybe

583
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: they'd be five cheeses.

584
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: Now it's a spread.

585
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: Now it's a whole thing, and we've gotten really good

586
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: at making a nice cheeseplate. And there's wine and usually

587
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: horror movies because of course. But some of the cheeses

588
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: I like on my cheeseboard are I like a bree,

589
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 1: I like a gooda, a groy air, a sharp cheddar,

590
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: and a goat cheese. Then I like cucumbers and siracha, yes,

591
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: oh yes, but my friends, so I bring that and

592
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: some wine. My friends will bring like what I would

593
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: call fancy your cheeses, so they really like espresso, cheese, wine, cheeses.

594
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: My favorite sarachies.

595
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: Love love love, yes, yes, and it's a lovely, lovely time.

596
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: And then I have another friend group where unfortunately I've

597
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: only made it to this friends giving once, but they

598
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: do a friends giving wreath where you write what you

599
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: what you.

600
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: Wish or want in the coming year.

601
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: And two of my best friends, one of them wrote

602
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: you know I'm going to marry this person on the

603
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: wreath and it got married. Yeah, yeah, I do. I

604
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: appreciate little things like that, traditions that we make with

605
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: our friends.

606
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah.

607
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: And then I wanted to mention this because somebody a

608
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: listener wrote in about this and I'm so sorry, I

609
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: can't remember your name, and I think this was a

610
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: while back, so I couldn't it. But what they do,

611
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: or at least one time, they did a time where

612
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: everyone brought in like their favorite foods or foods from

613
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: their family or like their history, and in that way

614
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: you would just get this very interesting, like spread of

615
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 1: foods from all over and maybe things you'd never tried before.

616
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: And it sounded like such a lovely thing.

617
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: And she said the idea was from the movie Signs,

618
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: where I don't know, at the end of the movie,

619
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: I guess they think they're going to die. Maybe they

620
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: sort of have alass meal they're like, what do you want?

621
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: What's the thing you want? But I like that idea.

622
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: I like the idea of just like, let's make it

623
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: really whatever it is, doesn't have to coordinate at all.

624
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: The luck Yeah, yeah, my friends are more on the

625
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: Google cheat, the Google.

626
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: Yah, so that we have to make.

627
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: Sure and I'm usually like cookies, wine, You're welcome. I

628
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: did make a baked mac and cheese time. It was

629
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: pretty good. Yeah, for our friends stuff we don't have.

630
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: I've been trying to get in on this cheese giving.

631
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: I've still not been invited. Anyway, my other friends, we've

632
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: done a lot of different things, and typically, like I said,

633
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: we do a Google doc spreadsheet. But one thing that

634
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 3: has changed as of late. My friends are ridiculously funny

635
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: and smart and tech savvy. I am not. They make

636
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: fun of me all the time because I'm like, here,

637
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna send this a gift and it turns out

638
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: to be a video and they can't play it and

639
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: they're like, why don't start with me? And I was like,

640
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 3: they would just do a whole rolling gift back and

641
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: forth and I couldn't participate, So I would just send

642
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: a link essentially and they would find that hilarious. But

643
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: because they are these geniuses, my good friends are the

644
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: same sex couple I was tell them about who who

645
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: pretty much just like Hosts Extraordinaire. One of them have

646
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 3: gotten to the like meme stuff, so they will do

647
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: bring your favorite memes and do crafts to make the

648
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: tree and they've done it for two years straight. Last year,

649
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: of course, I think they just sent pictures, but that

650
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: was kind of the idea behind what they were doing,

651
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: So bring your favorite memes. And I was like, I

652
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: don't know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, And I

653
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: just popped up and showed up. But that's one of

654
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: the traditions that they do. And I was like, oh,

655
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: that makes that's cute. I like that. So they helped

656
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: decorate the tree beforehand, and that's their tree and I'm

657
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: like yeah, And then of course we do the white elephant,

658
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: do silly gifts anything in this put so like typically

659
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Speaker 3: people will do really good silly gifts every now and

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Speaker 3: then you get the really big things that are like

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Speaker 3: why did you, okay take it, like gift cards out

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Speaker 3: of nowhere. I'm like, yeah, okay, I have taken like

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Speaker 3: but the nerf guns as a president and all that. So,

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Speaker 3: but that that's the kind of traditions that they typically do,

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Speaker 3: and we typically do on that note and then just

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Speaker 3: sit and then whoever falls asleep first, and it's like

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Speaker 3: they get stuff stacked onto them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well funny Funnily enough, I usually fall asleep

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Speaker 1: first that she's giving because it's as little as I sleep.

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Speaker 1: I have a window and I if I'm tired and

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Speaker 1: I can fall asleep in that window, especially if it's

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Speaker 1: wine and cheese involved, I.

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Speaker 2: Will fall asleep. So I probably have like four.

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Speaker 1: Or five pictures of that someone has taken while I'm

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Speaker 1: asleep at cheese giving every.

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Speaker 3: Time, typically and surprisingly it's not me. Now the last

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Speaker 3: two years, I've gotten really bad about falling asleep because

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Speaker 3: of drinks, and I'm like, I'm done, I'm over it.

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Speaker 3: But usually will sneak away so you can't find me.

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Speaker 1: I don't intend to, it just happens suddenly. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like the meme chee crafts. That's

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Speaker 1: a fun that's a fun idea. So I know we

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Speaker 1: were going to give recipes, and then for the life

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Speaker 1: of me, I forgot which one I was gonna give.

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Speaker 1: But one thing that I believe I've talked about before

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Speaker 1: on this show over on the other show I do Savor,

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Speaker 1: which is all about food and drink. We did an

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Speaker 1: episode once on Ambrosia, which was one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: episodes we've ever ever done because it could literally.

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Speaker 2: Be almost anything. It escapes the definition.

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Speaker 3: Be I feel like you shared one last year.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so that is one that it's super easy and

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Speaker 1: if you're looking for, because I think I also I

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Speaker 1: shared the sweet potato casseroll one and chocolate pie, which

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Speaker 1: are heavier, heavier things. But my version of ambrosia is

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Speaker 1: pretty much like juice whichever, Like if you like orange

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Speaker 1: juice or orange pineapple juice, I would stick with orange

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Speaker 1: or pineapple pineapple and it could be fresh or you

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Speaker 1: could get it already cut. And then oranges and coconut,

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Speaker 1: which you can also take the risk on a fresh coconut.

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Speaker 1: You can get to shredded coconut and pecans and that's it.

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Speaker 1: Just put them in a container and it's fruit soup.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So like I'm like, is that jello? People do

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Speaker 3: it with jello too.

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Speaker 1: Most people do with yellow or marshmallows. I've never heard

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Speaker 1: of this. Yeah, it's not what my ambrosia is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen the cloudy looking ones and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: what is what is happening? So I don't trust ambrosia.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. I don't know what you put

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Speaker 3: into it. Now I know what you put into just

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Speaker 3: now I know what you put into it, But I'm like,

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Speaker 3: is this just the fruit cups frozen?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Usually it's it's much nicer. It's pressure and I like

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Speaker 1: the touch of the pecans. It's surprisingly popular among my

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Speaker 1: friend group because it is kind of a strange, very

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Speaker 1: strangest thing that I make.

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Speaker 3: Very Southern.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but again, when I was looking at when I

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Speaker 1: was researching for that episode on Ambrosia, I was like,

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Speaker 1: people do what no right?

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Speaker 3: You know, one of my new traditions with my sister.

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Speaker 3: My sister has come upon really great and you just

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Speaker 3: tried this, you and your friend actually really great chicken

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Speaker 3: and dumpling recipe, And that's become kind of a staple

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Speaker 3: where she would bring it because my son I love

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Speaker 3: chicken and dublings, and so I've been requesting it for

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Speaker 3: a while and her daughter, her oldest daughter, really loves

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Speaker 3: chicken and doublings. So it became a fan favorite and

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Speaker 3: she would bring it every year. And I'm hoping that

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Speaker 3: happens again because no matter what, at least we have

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Speaker 3: chicken and dumplings, whether I'm eating sandwiches and chicken dublings

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Speaker 3: or one time lasagna and chicken and dublings. We have

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Speaker 3: weird meals in my house. I'm just kidding. My mother's trying.

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Speaker 3: This is her way of trying to be adventurous, and

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Speaker 3: I think it's really a normal Actually. Yeah, So our

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Speaker 3: new little tradition is having more chicken and doublings and

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Speaker 3: you had it super easy. Which I had a whole

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Speaker 3: conversation with Holly from Stuff you missed in History class

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Speaker 3: and Criminelia about her ideal of chicken and doublings, and

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Speaker 3: it was super interesting about the differences. And I do

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Speaker 3: wonder what other people's recipes are because I go into

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Speaker 3: the soupy with thick doublings that stick to the roof

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Speaker 3: of your mouth type of dumplings with chunks of white

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Speaker 3: chicken breasts, no veggies. Where's those veggies coming from? That's

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Speaker 3: the meal that I think of for chicken and dumplings,

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Speaker 3: And honestly, it's probably top five meal for me. So

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Speaker 3: I do want to go because it is to me.

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Speaker 3: Now it's become a Thanksgiving tradition. I do wonder. I

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Speaker 3: have another question for y'all, what are everybody's thoughts on

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Speaker 3: chicken and dumplings? Because I talked with you for a

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Speaker 3: second and with Lauren about maybe I should come on

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Speaker 3: and talk about my chiga in docklays because I think,

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Speaker 3: and it's not mine, it's my sister, so I can't

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Speaker 3: claim it, but I do make it. But yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: one of our traditions. And it is also very Southern

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Speaker 3: because I figured out my partner, even though he's from

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Speaker 3: the South, never had it until I made it. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 3: you lived in Georgia as a teenager and as a youth,

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Speaker 3: I don't understand, right.

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Speaker 1: I do love those conversations where everybody has a different

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Speaker 1: understanding of what the same thing is right. And that

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Speaker 1: was actually one of the friends Giving episodes on Friends

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Speaker 1: they had. Monica was trying to make everybody's favorite thing

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Speaker 1: and it was like four different types of potatoes, right

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Speaker 1: of mashed potatoes, and just how people thought it should

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Speaker 1: taste and what should would be. Yeah, so listeners, let

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Speaker 1: us know your thoughts on chicken and dumplings. If you

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Speaker 1: have any recipes you want to try, please send them

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Speaker 1: our way. If you have any traditions you want to share.

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Speaker 1: If you're celebrating friends giving any of the upcoming holidays,

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