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Speaker 1: Thank you for watching Breaking Point. A very special week

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth anniversary of nine to eleven check this out

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Speaker 1: September eleventh, two thousand and one. And here to discuss

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Speaker 1: the day's events, I have a very special man. He's

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Speaker 1: the grandfather of seventeen children. You're the father of fourteen children.

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Speaker 1: That in and of itself is just mind blowing. But

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Speaker 1: you are retired captain in the FDN one. You were

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Speaker 1: also the Deputy Commissioner of the Emergency Operations Center at

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Speaker 1: the time of nine to eleven, working under a Rich

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Speaker 1: Shearer who has since passed. Since nine to eleven, and

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Speaker 1: you were headquartered in Building seven. I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about those days events. Oh a you, Rich, Rich Rose, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Rich Rotans, thanks for having me. It's an honor. We've

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Speaker 1: had many conversations over the years, right, and you know,

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Speaker 1: people need to understand the gravity of what happened on

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Speaker 1: that day. Sixteen acre debris field. Five buildings fully collapsed,

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Speaker 1: another three partially collapsed, eleven buildings suffered major damage, another

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Speaker 1: thirty seven buildings suffered damage. The destruction. You know, I

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Speaker 1: got a chance to go down to the pile three

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Speaker 1: days after nine to eleven. Never get that out of

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Speaker 1: my head. I'll never get the smell out.

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Speaker 2: Of my head.

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Speaker 1: I'll at debris and anything else that was going on.

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Speaker 1: And all the ambulance is sitting on the marine terminal

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Speaker 1: you know driveway, none of them moving. There were no survivors.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about that day, Rich Rotans, where were you

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Speaker 1: that morning?

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Speaker 3: That morning, I was with two of my colleagues on

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Speaker 3: the twenty third floor discussing about a drill we're gonna

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Speaker 3: have the next day. It's going to be a buyer

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Speaker 3: defense drill in building seven, Building seven, and then we're

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Speaker 3: going to have this fire defense drill overt ten ninety two,

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Speaker 3: having all the debts and probation refirement for baring police

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Speaker 3: about fifteen hundred and see how fast we can give

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Speaker 3: out medications eminem's that we're doing the time to restudy

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Speaker 3: on that. And as we're discussing, I could see out

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Speaker 3: the window a plane flying very low. I go, this

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Speaker 3: guy is kind of loon, And all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: you're hear him plowing over our heads and hit tower

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Speaker 3: tower onan and we all knew right away that this

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Speaker 3: is not an accident.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Uh So with that, I had my staff fire up

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Speaker 3: the UC don't call anybody in, but just get it going.

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Speaker 3: And I went downstairs to the lobby of Tower want

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Speaker 3: to meet with the fire city director. They started a

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Speaker 3: command post for the fire PD and Giuliani. With that,

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Speaker 3: I met my friend Joe Fiffer, the battalion chief that

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Speaker 3: was used with two French photographers, telling me that the

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Speaker 3: life of a probationary.

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Speaker 1: FOHO can forget that footage.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm going to go back to towers Tower seven.

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Speaker 3: With that, we heard another explosion and that was the

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Speaker 3: second plane hitting at the second tower. The big problem

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Speaker 3: about going to and from Tower one and Tower seven

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Speaker 3: with the jumpers. The first fireman that was killed was

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Speaker 3: killed by jumper and you have to really watch where

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Speaker 3: they're come because they were coming out and the dozens

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Speaker 3: on the east side of the building where you really

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Speaker 3: couldn't see from West Street. So when I went back

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Speaker 3: to Towers seven, got upstairs to the twenty third floor

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Speaker 3: and I told the staff, you're right of here downstairs,

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Speaker 1: So you evacuated Building seven.

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Speaker 3: I told the security from Tower seven and six and

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Speaker 3: because we have no idea what's going on. We knew

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Speaker 3: were under attack. We did you know about Shanksville? Did

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Speaker 3: you know about the Pentagon? We knew that New York

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, in just an hour or so before,

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Speaker 1: Betty young h called uh and she was the stewardess

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Speaker 1: on flight eleven, fully loaded, refueled, taken off of Boston.

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Speaker 1: She said that we've been hijacked and a flight attendant

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Speaker 1: was stabbed. He is in critical condition. Other people were killed.

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Speaker 1: They've taken control of the airplane. But you guys didn't know.

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Speaker 3: That, No, not at all. We all we knew that

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Speaker 3: what we were doing. Initially.

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Speaker 1: You tried to go back into building seven, right, I

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Speaker 1: was ordered to go back. That was after the tower

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Speaker 1: two fell, right.

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Speaker 3: When all the towers were gone. Chief Hayden at the time,

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Speaker 3: asked me and two of the chiefs to take a

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Speaker 3: look at towers seven. All right, and we did that,

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Speaker 3: hear things upstairs fall apart. It was kind of bizarre.

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Speaker 3: We saw an elevator box down the hallway from the

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Speaker 3: elevator shift. We thought it was bizarre, so had we

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Speaker 1: I go, no problem, chief, and you described to me

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Speaker 1: that they were unks taken out of Building seven, the

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Speaker 1: all the surrounding buildings that were damaged. The building was

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Speaker 1: gravely damaged.

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Speaker 3: I would say, big time, because you could see numerous

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Speaker 3: So this building was going to definitely come down.

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Speaker 1: There was no water pressure in that sixteen acre debris field.

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Speaker 2: Is that why, I assume?

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Speaker 3: So, but no one's fighting fires anymore, no one's going

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Speaker 3: into Towers seven, so they're just let it burn. I

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Speaker 3: mean the chiefest. We knew we lost a lot of men,

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Speaker 3: not gonna lose anymore. That's why he said. This fell

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Speaker 1: Thirty, twelve thirty. Yeah, okay, you know, such a tragic day.

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Speaker 1: Four hundred and ten thousand first responders came through the pile.

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Speaker 1: Seventy thousand have cancer, COPD, misothliolm is showing up twenty

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Speaker 1: classifying as part of the victim's compensation fund and PTSD.

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Speaker 1: Almost eight thousand have died so far, including that either

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Speaker 1: from illness or that day. The loss for you and

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Speaker 3: I just buried a friend of mine not too long ago.

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Speaker 3: It was a fireman with me and twenty nine engine

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Speaker 3: Chris reh Vere, a great guy, and it just seems

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Speaker 3: but state troopers and fire. It's disordining. So at the scene,

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Speaker 3: we've had trouble with communications. But I was My two

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Speaker 3: were at the scene and they were told I was killed,

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Speaker 3: and they were told and I was told they were killed.

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Speaker 3: And we met each other at West and Vessey.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, there's a forty year history of terrorism

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Speaker 1: in New York and at that point there were so

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Speaker 1: many attacks broken up and I talk about that in

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Speaker 1: depth in my Giuliani interview. You know, so many attacks,

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Speaker 1: so many things, the Brooklyn Bridge, a Holland Tunnel, the

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Speaker 1: in the past. And then yeah, the twenty February twenty sixth,

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Speaker 1: think going up in Tower two in the seventy fourth floor.

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Speaker 1: Last scene you know, you know, with gear on his

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Speaker 3: The radio communications were good. Paddy Brown who died and

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Speaker 3: these people that burned or injured. So he was on

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Speaker 1: Is there anything that you can think of in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty hindsight that would have made a difference when nine

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Speaker 3: I don't think anything that mattered. It was very catastrophic.

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Speaker 3: you know. And Bill Fihance, so you have the most

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Speaker 1: Have the needs of the survivors and those who are

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Speaker 3: I think so I was diagnosed with skin cancer from

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Speaker 1: Where were you in the First World Trades in obombing?

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Speaker 3: Was the covering captain that was sent me to the site?

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Speaker 1: So wow, So you got there, there was six floors

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Speaker 1: main garage, probably would have done a lot more deaths,

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Speaker 3: I think, so yeah, And it's fun. It's something how

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Speaker 1: Well, so, okay, so the FBI didn't solve that. They

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Speaker 1: was in New York City high school educated motor pool guy.

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Speaker 1: Because the FBI couldn't identify the ven number on it,

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Speaker 1: And that's how they discovered that it was a rental.

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Speaker 1: And they called up Mahmoud al Bahlima and Mohammed Salami

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Speaker 1: showed up for their deposit. That's how they were caught.

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Speaker 3: That's all us what they were.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Ramsey Yusef was the mastermind behind that and

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Speaker 1: he was the nephew of colleague Shaik Muhammad and Bin Laden.

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Speaker 1: The first plot for nine to eleven was to break

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Speaker 1: l say Youse out of Attica Prison who got sentenced

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Speaker 1: there on a gun charge for killing Maya kahana Or

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Speaker 1: in the Marit east Side hotel. And then the second

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Speaker 1: string of attacks we're going to be to kidnap Aldamado's

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Speaker 1: daughter of thirteen synagogues. But Ramsey Yusef got involved with

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Speaker 1: Bin Laden ordering him to come here to teach him.

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Speaker 1: Is they go teach him how to make that bomb?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Pretty pretty incredible the history when you look into it

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Speaker 1: and they were recruiting in the Alfa Yukamasque and the

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. You're watching Breaking Point. I went to thirty

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Speaker 1: Nine to eleven is here again, the twenty fourth anniversary,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, truly incredible day. And after the attacks, you

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Speaker 1: City has a forty year history of Islamic terror. There's

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Speaker 1: been hundreds of attacks foiled and intercepted over the years.

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Speaker 1: They got away with a couple of them, but Rudy

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Speaker 1: of my interview with Rudy Giuliani. So I wanted to

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Speaker 1: get into the terrorist aspect of it. But before we

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Speaker 1: weren't that bad then. Yeah, Well, you know there's a

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Speaker 1: forty year history of terrorism in New York City, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was involved in it from almost day one.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you that My career was non politics.

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Speaker 2: My career was I was had every position of the

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Speaker 2: Justice Department associated attorney generally, I started as I started

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Speaker 2: as a law clerk to a federal judge. I began

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Speaker 2: an assistant US attorney, a line prosing you for a

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Speaker 2: sixth year, tried one hundred kges. Then I was in

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Speaker 2: law practice for a few years, and Ronald Reagan maybe

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Speaker 2: the number three person of the just Districtpartment. I gave

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Speaker 2: that up to be US attorney in Manhattan. All during

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Speaker 2: that time I prosecuted terrorism cases. Now I was known

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Speaker 2: for prosecuting the mafia and Wall Street. Those got the big,

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Speaker 2: big publicity, but I prosecuted numerous terrorism cases and international

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Speaker 2: drug dealing cases. I have an award from the Colombian

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Speaker 2: government for helping to break up the cartels in Colombia.

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Speaker 2: I have an award from the Mexican government for helping

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Speaker 2: them with the cartel involvement with terrorist groups. People just

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Speaker 2: don't know that. It didn't get as much publicity, But

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Speaker 2: I am my assistants and then the ones who were there,

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Speaker 2: who were there. In other words, when New York had

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Speaker 2: to take up terrorism, not only me, but the Police Department,

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Speaker 2: the FBI joined, we had a joint terrorism task for specifically.

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Speaker 2: Ninety percent of it was the lomic terrorism. That's really

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Speaker 2: the only real terrorism. They were experts on it. So, okay,

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Speaker 2: we'd been attacked in ninety three.

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Speaker 1: Where were you in the February twenty sixth, nineteen ninety three,

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: Running for mayor, you were running from mayor. And it

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Speaker 2: was one of the things that liked me because Dinkins

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Speaker 2: was in Japan. Yeah, like the mayor of so the

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Speaker 2: mayor of Los Angeles was in where was it Uganda

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Speaker 2: when Los Angeles burned out?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Baso right, yeah, So the history of nine

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Speaker 1: to eleven, I think it's important for the audience to know. Right,

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Speaker 1: Maya Kahanna was murdered by Elsaid Noser in the Marriott Hotel.

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Speaker 2: That's when I was a law student.

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Speaker 1: Right, So he gets sent to Attica on a gun charge.

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Speaker 2: Ala.

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Speaker 1: The first attack was planning to break him out of

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Speaker 1: Attica by Mohammed Salome and Mahmoud Abbahlima the blind Shake, right,

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Speaker 1: and that was foiled by Navy intelligence, I believe. And

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Speaker 1: then the second plot was to kidnap Aldamano's daughter and

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Speaker 1: blow up thirteen synagogues. But bin Laden got winto that

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Speaker 1: and he sent SM's nephew, Ramsey Yusaf, who was in

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Speaker 1: the Philippines here.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know the guys I was prosecuting in

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Speaker 2: Terror to.

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Speaker 1: Teach him how to make the ammonium nitrate diesel fertilize

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Speaker 1: out al.

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Speaker 2: The motto at the time of a great friend. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you know they did that.

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Speaker 1: And then three months later, the day in terror they

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Speaker 1: were gonna blow up the gw Bridge Holland Town.

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Speaker 2: But here's a good time. The Democrat administration ignored it

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Speaker 2: to the extent of empowering it. It wouldn't have happened

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Speaker 2: if they had struck back. They weren't that powerful at

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Speaker 2: the beginning. Always much easier to take these bastards out early.

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Speaker 2: Then wait, like you wait on Hitler, he controls the war.

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Speaker 2: You wait on Stalin, he controls half the world. You

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Speaker 2: wait on ben Laden. He's capable of taking down buildings.

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Speaker 2: You go after Banal, and six years earlier he did nothing.

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Speaker 2: So and they wouldn't. They should have taken him out

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Speaker 2: six years earlier. But New York City didn't do the

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Speaker 2: same thing because the year of the attack, I was

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Speaker 2: running from mayor. First day I got in office, my

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Speaker 2: first priority was to build the best terrorism defense in

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Speaker 2: the world, and I in office of Emergency Management, which

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Speaker 2: we never had before. I got the biggest expert I

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Speaker 2: could get to manage it, and we spent a very

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Speaker 2: large amount of time studying what could happen to us

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Speaker 2: and practicing. We brought in people from other cities. We

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Speaker 2: brought in people from others for the country. We brought

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Speaker 2: in people from other people from Israel. We had Israelis

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Speaker 2: come and trade us on how to deal with with

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Speaker 2: suicide bombings. We had never dealt with suicide bombings. We

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Speaker 2: had had a terrorist attack almost about a year and

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Speaker 2: a half earlier, when Howard Safer was a police commissioner,

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Speaker 2: where they had explosives that could have blown up entire

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Speaker 2: subway station. The guy was caught four barks away in

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Speaker 2: an apartment building and he was shot dead on the

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Speaker 2: way to hitting a toggle switch. Yes, I had another

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Speaker 2: five or six once it never became public.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and people don't talk.

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Speaker 2: We we were, we were ready for it. Here's what

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Speaker 2: we weren't ready for. We weren't I always when I

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Speaker 2: say this in a speech, we anticipated everything, but you

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Speaker 2: never anticipate everything. Yeah, we had never prepared for or

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Speaker 2: envision airplanes being used as missiles to go into the

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Speaker 2: middle of the buildings. You're going to hit the bottom

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Speaker 2: of a building. You're going to do a suicide bombing

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Speaker 2: throughout the building. Yeah. Sure.

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Speaker 1: Imagine they hit an hour later, thirty stories lower. They'd

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Speaker 1: be fifty thousand people dead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Of course, of course in crowded. By the time

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Speaker 2: I was there, I asked, Bernie put in the hard lines.

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Speaker 2: By the time I was there. The first thing I

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Speaker 2: said to when I got out of there for that

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Speaker 2: is how bad is that it? Tell and my deputy

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Speaker 2: mayor Chief Deputy mayor who helped me to run it,

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Speaker 2: Joe Loda, who runs Langoing Hospital. Now, Joe said, Boss,

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Speaker 2: that jumping out of windows, it's so bad. I said,

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Speaker 2: did you get the hard lines? And he says, look,

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Speaker 2: because we're very proud of how you would do things. Quickly.

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Speaker 2: I look down the street in Barkley Street and I

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Speaker 2: see all these police trucks there and they were I

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Speaker 2: gave this order like five minutes ago, and they were

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Speaker 2: already they're putting the lines. They said, Boss, what do

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Speaker 2: we do? I said, first thing we do. We go

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Speaker 2: see Guancy, make sure he's got everything. I want you

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Speaker 2: and Guancy to be won here. I don't want any

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Speaker 2: problem with the cops. Say we're in charge. I said,

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Speaker 2: right now, commissioner, what do you tell me? What's your call?

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Speaker 2: But we had a very strict rule. First thing you

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Speaker 2: do in emergency is set up the commander and the

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Speaker 2: mayor makes the order, and they listened to it. That's

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Speaker 2: why I used to go right. I mean, we had

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Speaker 2: the situation in the city four or five years earlier

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Speaker 2: when fire and police were fighting with each other as

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Speaker 2: twop were going to go save the people in the

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Speaker 2: river and nobody was going yelling in the river and

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Speaker 2: they're punching each other out.

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Speaker 1: So you were in the EOC when the first building collapse.

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Speaker 1: You were trapped in there.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'll tell you what happened. We go, We go

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Speaker 2: with Gancy, we set up everything. I wish him luck.

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Speaker 2: I give him my advice. He gives me his advice,

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Speaker 2: which was more important. He arranges things with Bernie. We

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Speaker 2: come back now that at center two walks away set up.

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Speaker 2: We walk in and everybody's on a phone trying to

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Speaker 2: get information. And also we're trying to get the White House.

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Speaker 2: I get the White House, they tell me that one

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Speaker 2: of the top ages there tells me they're evacuating the

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Speaker 2: White House. Yes, there are other attacks, could be seven

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Speaker 2: to twelve planes. We're going to have airplanes over your

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Speaker 2: city very shortly. I said, do we have aircut? I

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Speaker 2: want to talk to the Vice president because I have

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Speaker 2: some things I want to do and I want to

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Speaker 2: make sure the president agrees. He said, the president is,

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Speaker 2: President is being taken to secure location. Can you imagine

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Speaker 2: how that starts putting the weight on you. It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is real. That's what I said. I get off

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Speaker 2: the phone. I called Bernie and I said, Bernie, we're

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Speaker 2: on our own. He said, why federal governments protecting the president?

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Speaker 2: And we agreed with that. We thought they should take

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Speaker 2: them in the air. Remember, remember, our mentality then is

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Speaker 2: not now? Our mentality then is this is such a

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Speaker 2: big attack. More are going to happen. What's next? They

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Speaker 2: can hit us again. They're gonna hit Chicago, They're gonna

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Speaker 2: hit Philadelphia. They're gonna come and try to take out

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Speaker 2: their main target in New York was always was always

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Speaker 2: the Stock Exchange. They're going to come back and get that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what else are they going to hit? Hit Saint Patrick's,

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Speaker 2: Saint John, the divine they can go for. They've gone after,

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Speaker 2: They've gone after military, They've gone after political, they've gone

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Speaker 2: after economic, and they're going to go after religion. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the Muslims hate all that, and religion is the biggest

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Speaker 2: and they've been dedicated. I mean I was not I

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Speaker 2: was not a naive, euphemistic suck up on the Muslim religion.

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Speaker 2: I knew the bad and the good of it and

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Speaker 2: all they were for.

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Speaker 1: They were caught mixing the explosives in a midtown warehouse

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Speaker 1: Narbarry Hill to take out FBI headquarters, the Holland Tunnel,

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Speaker 1: the GW Bridge. I heard the Sudanese embassy may have

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Speaker 1: given them the keys to the parking garage of the

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Speaker 1: United Nations.

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Speaker 2: Uh, the United Nations is controlled by them. Yeah, some

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Speaker 2: of those agencies could be should be designated to terrorist groups.

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Speaker 2: People have no idea of the debt of the infiltration

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Speaker 2: of the democratic regimes and then the deep state toward

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Speaker 2: Islamic terrorism, including the completely euphemistic way in which they

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Speaker 2: hide from the American people the truth about the Muslim religion,

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Speaker 2: which everything these people did they could find justification for

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Speaker 2: what taqi in their holy book. They were allowed to

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Speaker 2: lie right. They could find justification for in their Holy book,

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Speaker 2: and the ones who couldn't find there, they could find

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Speaker 2: it in car marks.

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Speaker 1: So going back to the Alfaaruk Mosque was a recruiting

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Speaker 1: place for the Majaha Dean go fight in Afghanistan, Atlantic Avenue,

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Speaker 1: the Spice markets. You know, they had recruiting videos.

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Speaker 2: Where we celebration.

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Speaker 1: So there was a long history going back to the

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Speaker 1: eighties of recruitment right for al Qaeda.

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Speaker 2: You have exactly the place. You're really very knowledgeable. The

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Speaker 2: two major places that we had to worry about eventually

651
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Speaker 2: Queens and then under Bloomberg, Queens got worse. If I

652
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Speaker 2: were there five years old later, Queens would have been

653
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Speaker 2: a heavy But when I was there, it was downtown

654
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Speaker 2: inner Brooklyn where I went to high school. I knew

655
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Speaker 2: that geography really well. And then bigger time New Jersey

656
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Speaker 2: because that's where they played.

657
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Speaker 1: The Jersey City Mosque, the Manhattan Master, the Brooklyn Mosque,

658
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Speaker 1: all run by the line shape.

659
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Speaker 2: I authorized something very controversial for which Bloomberg got blamed.

660
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Speaker 2: But then I stood up for I put New York

661
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: City Police in New Jersey undercover. I recruited them on purpose.

662
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: I had the FBI help me. We trained them in

663
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Speaker 2: Arabic event and know it, we made them look like

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that we made them look like what

665
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Speaker 2: the hell they were. And we had by nineteen ninety

666
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Speaker 2: seven ninety eight, when we had one of our first

667
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Speaker 2: warnings that we would be attacked, I was able to

668
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Speaker 2: check and be very secure it wasn't coming from New Jersey,

669
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Speaker 2: and Bernie was very secure by the time I got

670
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: down there. This hadn't come from New Jersey because we

671
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: had covered it so well. Eventually, years later Christie discovered it. Yeah,

672
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: very angry that we had HI there. Didn't tell him

673
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: about and we didn't ovalap much was when he was mayor.

674
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Speaker 2: I said, why would they tell you about it? His

675
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Speaker 2: top secret? He needs to know. You didn't have a

676
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: need to know. He said, suppose you run We ran

677
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: into them, He said, have you ever done undercover work?

678
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Speaker 2: We've run into people all the time. What do we

679
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: do inform everybody?

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Speaker 1: So there was a twenty three million dollar weapons ring

681
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: broken up out of Jersey City, correct.

682
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Speaker 2: And there was a shooting in Brooklyn, I'd say legitimately

683
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: about his aggeration ten seconds before the entire building was

684
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: broken down by an Al Qaeda guy who was going

685
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: to take out an entire subway station and then two buildings.

686
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: He was killed on the way to the toggle Swish

687
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 2: and when it was described, he was described as a terrorist,

688
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: but no one described the dimension of what he had planned,

689
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Speaker 2: which the FBI then was able to figure out by investigating.

690
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Speaker 1: I sat down with Rudy Giuliani up in New Hampshire

691
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Speaker 1: about the nine to eleven and the day's events, the

692
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Speaker 1: greatest mayor in American history. Here's the rest of it.

693
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Speaker 1: On nine to eleven, five buildings collapsed down there in

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Speaker 1: the trade center. Three partially collapsed. In addition, eleven buildings

695
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: suffered major damage. Thirty seven buildings had damage in addition

696
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: to that, and chunks of building seven were taken out

697
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Speaker 1: from what I understand the size of trucks from when

698
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: the building collapsed and the structural integrity of that building.

699
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Speaker 1: It burned for seven hours, no water pressure in the

700
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Speaker 1: sixteen acre debris field, and it burned for all that time.

701
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Speaker 1: And EOC members have told me that they tried to

702
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Speaker 1: get back up to the twenty third floor in Building seven,

703
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Speaker 1: but stopped at the seventh floor, knowing that the building

704
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: was creaking and was going to go down. I wanted

705
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Speaker 1: to ask you, and this is really important, what do

706
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Speaker 1: you say to people who say that there were explosives

707
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Speaker 1: placed in the building prior to the planes hitting.

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Speaker 2: I say, there's no evidence of that. There's nothing to

709
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: suggests that they were explosives in the building except it

710
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: came down. The coming down is perfectly explainable by what

711
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: it was hit with. I was told it was going

712
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: to come down the minute they saw it hit. In fact,

713
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Speaker 2: that's the way Gancy thought the two towers were going

714
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: to come down. They were going to come down, not implode,

715
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: but come down over a period. He thought he had

716
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: about two and a half days. When I got informed

717
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: about that building, they said it was going to They

718
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: were pretty sure it was going to come down before

719
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Speaker 2: the end of the night, if not the next morning. Sure.

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Speaker 2: And I got that information the first time I went

721
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: there because I wanted to go in. You know, my

722
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Speaker 2: corporation council was the last person out of the building.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Michael Hass Yes, I wanted to ask you about

724
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: four hundred and ten thousand first responders came through the

725
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Speaker 1: pile right that day. Subsequent to the events of that day,

726
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: almost eight thousand have died so far, including the people

727
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: lost their lives that day. Seventy thousand plus are sick

728
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: with cancer, COPD, PTSD, and we so Parmesan, twenty years later.

729
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Speaker 2: I'm certain, and so is doctor Maria, that Bernie Bernie's

730
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Speaker 2: I guess, was at least a causative fact. It was

731
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Speaker 2: the five year, one long damage you'd been treated for.

732
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Speaker 2: No one knew that Bernie was very, very sick. Now.

733
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Speaker 2: He also created a heart problem, and doctors feel that

734
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Speaker 2: if the lung hadn't deteriorated like that, some of the

735
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Speaker 2: kind he had, like a beating heart problem, would not

736
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Speaker 2: have happened. Sure, I must know. I must personally know

737
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: fifty people that died either for sure or arguably because

738
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Speaker 2: of their involvement down there. And I have a spot

739
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 2: on my lung, but it's not Wow. I've had it

740
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: for about five years and it hasn't spread, which is

741
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: me great, great confidence that I'll die with it.

742
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Speaker 1: Well, well, let's talk about Bernie kirk right. He passed recently.

743
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: We covered the funeral of real America's voice, big asset.

744
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: I always enjoyed talking to him about nine to eleven.

745
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Speaker 2: What did it mean to you?

746
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Speaker 1: And how is it working with him in the midst

747
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: of everything that happened at nine to eleven and post

748
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Speaker 1: nine to eleven.

749
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Speaker 2: Well, Bernie was a rock of solidity that would not

750
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: have made it possible for me to do the things

751
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 2: I did without him, or without von Essen, or without

752
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: Richie Sheer. They were the three big ones. They were

753
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: the heads of fire, police, emergency services. They worked without

754
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: sleep that I ever discerned for two straight buns. Yeah,

755
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: they were rocks of granite. They all of them get

756
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: great credit for what they did, and they all helped

757
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: each other get it. And God just blessed me with

758
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: just terrific people. Now throughout the administ I had people

759
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: I had it. I had to take off people have

760
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: the nervous breakdowns right at a meeting I had. I

761
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: had to take people off duty. I had to. I

762
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: had surprises people I thought, who can handle it? It couldn't.

763
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: People stepped up who I didn't think were heroes. But

764
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: the three of them I considered them like roxa granite.

765
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, what was your interaction back then. I know

766
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: he brought on a lot of teamsters to help clean

767
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: up the site.

768
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Speaker 2: What was your experience, Well, at that time he'd been

769
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: a friend over at eleven or twelve or more than that.

770
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 2: We became friends in nineteen eighty six, and as as

771
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: I as the years went along, we got closer and

772
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 2: closer because he agreed he was a Democrat and supported

773
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: me immediately familiar in nineteen eighty eight, supported me without

774
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: fail and all of my I ran twice, lost, once

775
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: ran again. A Democratic Party was very angry at him.

776
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: He was one of my main supporters. Yes, and you

777
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: get Donald Trump, you get all Donald Trump's friends. Not

778
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: only that he was a supporter of my policies, you

779
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: have to have described as a conservative Democrat. He agreed

780
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: with all the crime things he's doing now, all the

781
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: crime things I did then, and that he supported then,

782
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: and that he applorted me.

783
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: For how do we get leadership back in New York City?

784
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 2: Do you like? Only? I want to thank you so

785
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: much for taking of the time best interviews I've had.

786
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: I got to say something. You know the background of

787
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: this better than anybody's ever interviewed me.

788
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: Wow, Well, it's near and dear to me.

789
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: You should be in contact. I could use you.

790
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, explicit. You know, the people of New York Worth

791
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: were grateful for your leadership, not only during nine to eleven,

792
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: thank you, but turning it around to New York City.

793
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: Thank you. You know the message I'd like to leave

794
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: them with. Yeah, look, I'm I'm just even being I

795
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: am very aware of the fact that I didn't do

796
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: it by myself. Yes, I did get very very lucky

797
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: in having a terrific staff, and I had a great

798
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: Speaker of the City Council, a Democrat, Peter Malone. George

799
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: Kataki did at George couldn't accomplish as much because he

800
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: had the crook Shelley Snowban. I knew that I always

801
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 2: felt bad for George after my original support for Cuomo.

802
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: I regretted it somewhat because George turned out to be

803
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: a great, great person and showed leadership after the He

804
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 2: made one of the critical decisions in putting us together.

805
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: We nobody knows this, and it should be explainer because

806
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: people will follow it. We were a team for four months.

807
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: We were not without we were not outside of each

808
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: other's site more than two hours a day. We had

809
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: our staff meetings together. He took the governor's staff meeting

810
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: and the mayor's staff meeting, and we held it together

811
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: because we knew we could get along. But we know

812
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: government enough to know that our staffs are going to

813
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: fight no matter what. And we put them there and

814
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: made them work jointly on And here was the outcome

815
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: of it. If something went wrong, had we not done that,

816
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: his staff would have blamed me, My staff would have

817
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: blamed him, and we never would have resolved it. Now,

818
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: if it goes wrong, we both have to defend it.

819
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: They're in the same room. We got to fix it. Yeah,

820
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: it was. It was uh And I think he came

821
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: up with that idea if he didn't agreed to it

822
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: right away. And I think that is probably a core

823
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: principle of how you deal with an emergency. There's got

824
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: to be a joint If you see at hurricane and

825
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: you see, like in Katrina, the governor in the capitol

826
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: and the mayor in a boat having a nervous breakdown,

827
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: the federal government can't do anything about that, right because

828
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: they're out of the spot. The President's going to golf

829
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: and the people are going to die.

830
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: Well again, it means a lot that you took the

831
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: time for us.

832
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: I want to thank you, and you know, this is

833
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 2: very valuable reach out any time that there real America's voice.

834
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: America's one of you know, one of the ten. I'd

835
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: say I put on a list of eight ten that

836
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: saved free speech in America during the during the Dark Ages.

837
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: We're in touch with the people the dark agents were

838
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: in the BIE.

839
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Speaker 1: We listened to the real American voices across America, and

840
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: that's what makes rap.

841
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: You're just telling the truth, using your common sense, as

842
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: the President says, to try to figure out the truth. Look,

843
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: there are times I disagree with him. We're a mirror,

844
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: but I use the same process that he uses, and

845
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: then we eventually I eventually can figure out or he

846
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: moderates it. You know, it's not that you agree with

847
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: someone like that who you admire. I've worked for Ronald Reagan. Yes,

848
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: I agree with Ronald Reagan eighty percent of the time

849
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: the time. But that's more than enough, and he did

850
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: monumental things like free Eastern Europe.

851
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: You know what the core of it is, the good

852
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: people of America are tired of being told they're the

853
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: bad people, and they just that's why Donald Trump got

854
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: elected again.

855
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we could talk about this at some point,

856
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: but I'm going to tell you how to keep the

857
00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: key thing to it throwing God out. Sure, you throw

858
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: God out, you can't have morale.

859
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: Look what happened in Minneapolis.

860
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: You need, I say, to people that don't believe in God,

861
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: you're better off with a country that believes in God,

862
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: because it'll be a better country. Maybe you're special and

863
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: you can figure out how to be very moral and

864
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: high minded and contributory without God. Most people need God.

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Speaker 1: One hundred million were killed under communism.

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Speaker 2: So I used to know atheists I debated with you,

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Speaker 2: used to say, used to say that I learned that

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Speaker 2: from an agnostic. Yeah, you know, I don't think God exists.

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Speaker 2: I can't quite get myself there. It isn't that I'm

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Speaker 2: sure he doesn't, but I don't. I can't see the proof.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's much better that people do because

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Speaker 2: it makes him better. There's no doubt about it. Thank

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Speaker 2: you again, all right, thank you. Right.

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Speaker 4: I'm so excited to have Maria from Switch to USA

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Speaker 4: dot com with us Switch the number two USA dot Com.

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Speaker 4: She's been a longtime supporter of the show, and we're

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Speaker 4: so grateful Maria, how are you.

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Speaker 5: I'm well, thank you for having me, David, and I'm

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Speaker 5: very excited to be here and let everyone know what's

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Speaker 5: going on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so tell us about switch to USA American may

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Speaker 4: products by American factory workers.

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Speaker 5: This is an extraordinary time for all of us to

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Speaker 5: be in this mission. The mission is not only a

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Speaker 5: MAGA but Maha right. And we've been in this business

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Speaker 5: for maybe three and a half four years, some of

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Speaker 5: us may be longer. We are an American manufacturer. We

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Speaker 5: did the deep dive. We found an American manufacturer that's

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Speaker 5: been doing business for forty years. And it's a discount

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Speaker 5: club membership, so you get between forty five and forty

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Speaker 5: seven percent off when you shop monthly. It's all wellness products, cleaning, laundry, toothpaste, mouthwashed,

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Speaker 5: the basic essentials for every American. So I always say,

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Speaker 5: if you have skin and hair and teeth, this is

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Speaker 5: where you need to be. This is a mission where

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Speaker 5: we can defund the black Rock and the Pyramid scheme.

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Speaker 5: That's Blackrock Vanguarden State Street and this is an American owned,

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Speaker 5: made in America manufacturer. They're all processed here in the

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Speaker 5: USA manufactured here in the USA. Everything is door delivered,

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Speaker 5: including our ranch. We have a ranch, and everything is

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Speaker 5: USA processed right here from our ranch. They have a

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Speaker 5: processing center.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 4: I tell our viewers how they can get involved and

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Speaker 4: how do they find you.

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Speaker 5: Oh, please come to switch the number two USA dot com.

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Speaker 5: Either myself or my family and team will answer your call.

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Speaker 5: Please schedule an appointment, so expect to hear about the details.

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Speaker 5: You get to pick and choose if you want be

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Speaker 5: for wellness or both. We'll sign you up and expect

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Speaker 5: to shop with us on the very first time, and

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Speaker 5: then every month thereafter you get to shop all by yourself.

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Speaker 5: And remember this is a patriot mission and we're so

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Speaker 5: grateful that we get to build America.

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Speaker 4: All right, Maria Lynn, I'd love to see you, and

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Speaker 4: go to the bottom of the screen there switch to

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Speaker 4: USA dot com and get it today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.