1 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: It's an NFC show down. Shoal is not even the 2 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: word doesn't seem like it's a good an afford to 3 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: describe this magic will have On Thursday Night, Football Week 4 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: eight kicks off epic matchup between division leaders Aaron Rodgers, 5 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: the reigning MVP, the Packers. They've won six straight. They 6 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: want to keep that up. But Kyler Murray and the 7 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: Red Hot Cardinals, they are undefeated. They want to stay 8 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: that way. It's a primetime battle in the desert. One 9 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: big X factor in this one dropped yesterday Thursday Night 10 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: Football Thursday at eight pm on NFL Network, on Fox 11 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: and streaming on Prime Video. Welcome to our show. This 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: is being represented by Eld Trapper beef Jerky. We're live 13 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: in New York City. We are feeling good because people 14 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: have to talk about Peter Schreig, Kyle Branch, Shawn oh 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Hero hanging out with us. And let's go to Seattle Ship. 16 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: I think we should let's go free shots to Hennessey 17 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: for the table that was the ordered last night as 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: the Seahawks lose at home to the Saints thirteen to ten. 19 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: We got a four and a two next to New 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints record and we got Jamis Winston after a 21 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: road win. Talking about that number forty one, that running 22 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: back from the New Orleans Saints album Camara Tenny taches. 23 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: I'll talk about how great of a player he is, 24 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: uh and how health he is to this offense just 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: in general. Aka is one of the most dominant players 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: in this in this league. So it's always a citing 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: when when you put the ball in his hands and 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: watch the things that he does. We're playing good football, man. 29 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: We can still get better. I mean I talked to 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: Jamis about it just now. I talked, I mean, we 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: got so much more we could work on and be 32 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: good at and you know, to where we can get 33 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: this offense like really explosive, to where we you know, 34 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: we know we can be. So, I mean, it's just 35 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: a it's a it's a constant process. So we're always working. 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: Love that Alvin said that they haven't played their best 37 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: football yet. I very much believe that. Yet. They have 38 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: a great record four and two. They get it done again. 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: They sit in playoff position as a sixth seed in 40 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: the NFC. They're going to get healthier, they hopefully get 41 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas Speck will talk about that he was sorely 42 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: missed on the field and sloppy conditions in a sloppy 43 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: game last night. What did you learn, Peter from the 44 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: shan Rather, we'll start with you, our super Bowl champion 45 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: at the table Seattle falls to New Orleans. I learned 46 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: a lot about the Saints offense and going in to 47 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: handle that crowd noise. I know that's a tough place 48 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: to play. Anytime you can go into Seattle and come 49 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: away with the win, that's huge. Eric McCoy fell coming 50 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: back from injury in a center huge factor. But listen, 51 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: the game started off with DK Metcalf running right through 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 1: their defense, and it was like, oh boy, it's gonna 53 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: be a long hunt. And this play right here, Kyle, 54 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: you just talked about this throw the run after the catch, DK, 55 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, beats Lattimore right there and then beats Marcus Williams, 56 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: and you felt like, okay, this could be a route 57 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: like Gino, it's just going to continue to hit DK Metcalf. 58 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: You nobody kept the DK Metcalf had did that play 59 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: one more? What's it? Two catches the whole game? So 60 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: I credited the Saints defense. That's what I learned the 61 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: most this Saints defense last year. They were phenomenal when 62 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: they what they did to Seattle in this game, sacking 63 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: us with five times pressure after pressure. Dennis Allen, it 64 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: was like he knew exactly what Shane Waldon was doing 65 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: on every single play. He had an answer for everything. 66 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: The overlottle blitch to blitz zero, the coverage, the sticks 67 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: stopped the run. I thought it was a very physical, 68 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: dominant performance by this defense. You take that playway at 69 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. They had one hundred and thirty seven towel 70 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: settle in ten points, thirteen to ten. Weird, unwieldy, wet, wild, 71 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: the ugly game and who cares? I learned you can 72 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: play hero ball with Dalvin Kamara. We see teams try 73 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: to do it. The Chiefs have been asking mahomes to 74 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: play hero ball. The Titans do it with Derrick Henry 75 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: al mccamara one hundred and seventy nine scrimmage jars. And 76 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: what I like about it, he got stuffed on the run. 77 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: They kept trying to run. They didn't care, They just 78 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: didn't stop. Every one of these catches was just these 79 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: short little dump boss from Jamis who's having some kind 80 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: of a opposite of a heel turn. It's like a 81 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: face turn, like he doesn't do the crazy very conservative James, 82 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: pretty cool and look it works. Here's the deal now, 83 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: So they're four and two. Like we mentioned, bring up 84 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: the NFC playoffs standings. Potentially, if you get to four 85 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: and two five and one, you're probably making the playoffs. 86 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: What I mean is Cardinals, Bucks, Packers, Rams, Cowboys almost 87 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: definitely our playoff teams the NFC. That means there's only 88 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: two spots left. We got five out of seven. So 89 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: is it the Saints because other than these teams up here, 90 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: they're the only team in the NFC that's above five hundred. 91 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: The Vikings are playing pretty good football. All of a sudden, 92 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: the Falcons are making noise. But I don't see anybody 93 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: else other than the Saints right now. I'm like they're 94 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: at least in position to take one of those two spots. 95 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: It's closing up Fastness Club and the Saints may be 96 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: at one of the taps. Just maybe are you buying 97 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: on them? The Falcons? Who else? The Vikings you mentioned? Yeah, 98 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: the Vikings are good, like not yet because I don't 99 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: think they're playing great. Their record is good and you 100 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: don't have to have one. But I don't think those 101 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: seats are settled yet. I think they got work to do. Yeah, 102 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 1: you'd have to think that the teams like the Vikings 103 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: and the forty nine ers are done or aren't gonna 104 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: come back like that. It's going to be the battle 105 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: of the whole NFC East is bad. They're bad. Yeah, 106 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: I mean there's a spot for the Saints for sure. 107 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: Saints were great last night. That's a great win, great 108 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: great win. To go into Seattle and win that, it's 109 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: a great win. And it's a horrible loss for the Seahawks. 110 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: They gave this game away so many times. It was 111 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: so physical, it was so nasty. These guys were talking 112 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: the metcalf a lot of more stuff can't be underest me. 113 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: These guys were pushing and punching and face mass and penalties. 114 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: And then the Seahawks had so many chances to put 115 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: this game away and they didn't. Jason Meyers is the 116 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: field goal I don't take joy on seven in the 117 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: morning bashing field goal kickers, but this guy right now 118 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: is six or ten for the year, and these were 119 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: two chippies he should have made and he missed him. 120 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: This would have put them up in this game. He 121 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: misses one, and then late they needed him to make 122 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: another one. Guy, we just need you to make a 123 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: field and says why teams pay their field goal kickers 124 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: the prose surprose. He's six or ten, he misses chip, 125 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: You're at home, Seattle, like he'd given the season away. 126 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: He can't win games this way. I'm not familiar with Seahawks. 127 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: Two and five Saints, all credit to them for gritting 128 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: it out and getting on that plane and getting other there. 129 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: That's a great win Seahawks. That's a heartbreaking season ending 130 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: lawsome I think we're wrapping them. That team there isn't 131 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: going to be doing. I mean, that was undisciplined football 132 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: at the end. That's killer. Hard to argue in that division, 133 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: in that conference. Just a little kapper on the Saints. 134 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: Of course, they've got a big one against Tampa Bay. 135 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: They've got a big one here coming up at They 136 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: are sitting there at four and two. We should give 137 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: Jamis Sillow. It's hard for me to judge James Winston 138 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: and I hope with hate being negative, but is there 139 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: a less proven weaker receiving core than what Jams is 140 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: rolling out there. He had nineteen completions last night, four 141 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: only four of nineteen were to ride receivers. We saw 142 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: some big drops. So for me, it's hard to judge 143 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: him partially because he's still somehow finding ways to win it. 144 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: If anything, that gives you more confidence in this team 145 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: that he's doing that. And hopefully Michael Thomas eligible hello 146 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: to return any week now, and he can you know, 147 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: if he's healthy, performing at the level we all know 148 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: that he can, Michael Thomas could be the difference maker 149 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: that makes you feel comfortable that they will snatch one 150 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: of those wildcard spots in the NFC playoff picture. We've 151 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: got Mike Carefolo here. I will and ask him about 152 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, because I don't think anyone knows about his 153 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: status going into the rest of the season. But we 154 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: do have some unfortunate news on another wide receiver out 155 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: in Green Bay yesterday. What is the latest on Packers 156 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals sturs in at football with Devontae Adams right here 157 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: on NFL Network. The latest CA is that it's not 158 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: quite shaping up how we expected this huge Thursday night 159 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: football matchup, and it appears that the Packers are going 160 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: to be without Davontae Adams. He was placed on the 161 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen list yesterday. He has publicly stated that he 162 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: is vaccinated, so that means that he tested positive number 163 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: one and number two, he's going to need two negative 164 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: tests at least twenty four hours apart. We've seen the 165 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: timeline for these things. They are a week plus usually 166 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: for those who test positive, even if they are vaccinated. 167 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: So it looks like Devontae Adams will not be available. 168 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: Also not available likely for this game. Defensive coordinator Joe Barry. 169 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: Now that's not what you want when you're facing Arizona, period, 170 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: but particularly on a short week. And I know Barry 171 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: has taken a lot of heat from Packers fans. You know, 172 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: everybody always wants the defensive coordinator to be better than 173 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: he is, especially with the way scoring is in this 174 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: league right now. But Joe Barry has got this defense 175 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: playing better as the season goes along. They were better 176 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: in the red zone last week, which I know has 177 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: been a talking point on both sides of the ball 178 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: for Green Bay. So Barry will participate virtually in game 179 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: planning meetings everything leading up to the game, but the 180 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: expectation is he will not be able to travel and 181 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: call the game. So the Packers working through contingency plans 182 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: right now, Mike first time, and I want to say 183 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: eighteen months that all the NFL's owners and presidents are 184 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: getting together in person. The fall league meeting kicks off 185 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: later today here in New York City. Going on with 186 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: the NFL. What should we be looking out for to 187 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 1: come out of these meetings? December eleventh, twenty nineteen, the 188 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: last time the owners got together in the same location. 189 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: Everything has been virtual since then. The annual league meeting 190 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: in March has been canceled or changed to a virtual 191 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: format the last two years. So now they are back together, 192 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: and look, the agenda internally is going to be a 193 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: lot of things that have been going on recently in 194 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: the league. We're talking about COVID protocols, diversity and inclusion, ratings, 195 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: international business, legal, sports betting. They're going to discuss that 196 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: as well, and then stadium developments such as Buffalo Buffalo 197 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: looking to build a new stadium, and a preview of 198 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl to come. But you know, for the 199 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: average fan, for someone tuning in to see what's coming 200 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: out of the league meetings, I would say a couple 201 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: of things that are going to be talked about or 202 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: asked of Roger Goodell. That would be Deshaun Watson's status. 203 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: We know there's been some talk should he get traded, 204 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: will he be available to play? The league has not 205 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: done anything with regard to his status, by the way, 206 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: I would expect that to continue even if he was traded. 207 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: And also the Washington situation with all the fallout from 208 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: the internal investigation there, as well as the emails that 209 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: have come out, so there will be some questions asked 210 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: of Roger Goodell and some of the owners. So stay 211 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: tuned to see the league's react action to some of 212 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: these things. This is when you usually get that kind 213 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: of stuff when everyone is together. I appreciate the updates 214 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: all around. We also have the trade deadline approaching on 215 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: November second, keep your eye on that. Will have updates 216 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: ahead of this epic matchup on Thursday night football between 217 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: the Packers and the Cardinals in Arizona, right here on 218 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: NFL Network. And I gotta tell you the whole show today, 219 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: Pat fryar move joining the program. Sorry, we just had 220 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: to rudely say bye to you. Sorry, Mikey g We 221 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: got Damian Harris on the show and we in or 222 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: We Out is next time for we in or we Out. 223 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say a statement. You guys tell me if 224 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: you are in earie out, Let's go right there. From 225 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: coach Arthur Smith, the statement is this, Matt Ryan is 226 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: criminally underrated? Are we in? Ear we out? Sean O'Hara, 227 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: do you agree underrated Ryan? All right? Yeah? Can we 228 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: can we drop the criminally criminally underrated? He underrated? Absolutely? 229 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: I think when you look at at Matt Ryan, all 230 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: the blame that he's gotten over the last couple of years, 231 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: and you know, when you look at at what they 232 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: the losses that they have have had to endure with 233 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn the last couple of years, I mean just 234 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: inexplicable losses, and it always falls on Matt Ryan's head. 235 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: I think he's phenomenal in the pocket and they invested 236 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: a ton of money, a ton of draft capital in 237 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: this offensive line, multiple first round picks, and now it's 238 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: finally coming to fruition. But Kyle Pitts had an unbelievable game. 239 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: Kyle really did into a whole lot. But this what 240 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: we're seeing from Matt Ryan right now. I think he's 241 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: in his prime, and in his prime, the best days 242 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: are still here. I think he's still got good years. 243 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: This one now, okay the best even if you look 244 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: at right now, he's having a nice year, a perfectly 245 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: fine year. He's got twelve touchdowns his fore in receptions. 246 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: Even now, are you taking him over Brady, Kyler, Rogers, 247 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: Dak Josh, Allen, Burrow, Lamar, Herbert Carr, even Mahomes as 248 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: bad as the Chiefs are playing. To me, he's had 249 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: a great career. He's had one really really good year, 250 00:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: and even in that MVP year, I don't know that 251 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: I would take him over the guys I just mentioned, 252 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: which is just the truth. Good quarterback, solid career. I 253 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: think that's perfectly fine. I do not like it when 254 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: people Triggs try to say he isn't good, but to 255 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: say that he's criminally underrated. That means we're putting him 256 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: at Hall of Fame status essentially, and I can't go 257 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: for it. What do you got, Kyle? I can't abide 258 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: by this. I respect Arthur Smith speaking for his team. 259 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: I would describe Matt Ryan is he is very good. 260 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah s leave it right there. He's very good. The 261 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: problem with rating is that you're talking about Peers and 262 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: we got to compare Matt Ryan to Peyton and to 263 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: Rogers and to Brady, And I don't even know if 264 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: certainly on a resume scale he doesn't have a better 265 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: resume than Flacco or Eli. Because I also will not 266 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: have Peter. We're gonna get to a point where we 267 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: have to have Matt Ryan Hall of Fame conversation because 268 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to have that number. But I members 269 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: he can't write this generation football do Matt Ryan Day 270 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: is very good player, and that's fine, That's okay. What 271 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: underrated things tight ends. That's what we should be talking 272 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: about about. National Matt Ryan Day, National Matt Ryan Day. 273 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: I think the point like they're three and three, we 274 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: haven't talking about about the fat fair this guy. And 275 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: then there's two wins against the Dolphins and the Jets, 276 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: and I don't want to do flints, but we do 277 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: mention all those names, and we never ever and then 278 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: not just us, the national conversation never brings up. Now 279 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: even Stafford is now in that conversation and he wasn't 280 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: for a long time. But you're saying he's in the 281 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: prime of his career. Sean. I think he's he's and 282 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: I think that's why Arthur Smith is coming out saying 283 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: that Arthur Smith knows what he's talking and he knows 284 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: the words that he's choosing. And I just kind of 285 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: I go back to, like from a coach standpoint, when 286 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: you have a quarterback that absolutely speaks the language that 287 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: is just it is a lifer that just can't get 288 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: enough football. Like we saw Drew Brees. You know, the 289 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: way that he interacted with Sean Payton, the way that 290 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan interacted with Kyle Shanahan and with the Floor 291 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: and when when he had that relationship going on, that 292 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: was I mean, that was some vintage Matt Ryan. I 293 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: was perfect. I think he's going to have that with 294 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith in due time. This is a whole new 295 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: offense for him. So we see him now just right now. 296 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: I think that's why Arthur Smith is saying, I know 297 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: how much further I could push Matt Ryan and this 298 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: all all right? All right, the next one. Here it's 299 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: kind of nice weather, and here it's it's moderate. In 300 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: this room in San Francisco right now, it is hot. 301 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: People are upset, the fan base is riled up, They've 302 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: lost four straight games, and they lost to the Colts 303 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: on Sunday Night. Football and head coach Kyle Shanahan reiterated 304 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: that Jimmy Garoppolo will remain the starter going forward. Trey 305 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: Lance might be hurt um Mac Jones. Meanwhile, this weekend 306 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: lit it up. Mac Jones is playing. Here's the question 307 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: forty nine ers who gave up two first round picks 308 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: to move up from twelve to three. Is it too 309 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: soon to question the draft day moves of the twenty 310 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: twenty one draft and selecting Trey Lance third overall? We in? 311 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: Is it too soon? So? Is it too soon? Be here? 312 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: I think it might be too late? What were we 313 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: doing here? Come on, the Niners already have Mac Jones. 314 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: His name is Jimmy Garoppolo. No, I it's fastically too 315 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: soon even in what we do. The whole Trey Lance 316 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: thing was not about week seven of twenty twenty one. 317 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: It's about week one of twenty twenty seven and twenty 318 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: twenty nine. Like, it was never the plan. And I 319 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: know he was raw, but you know what, Kyle took 320 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: a shot at like a weapon X. He didn't want 321 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppol. He didn't want mac Jones didn't want any 322 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: of those guys. He wanted the future, and he went 323 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: for the prototype at the auto show with the cars 324 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: that open sideways. I don't know if I think can 325 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: run yet, but I don't need to drive it yet. 326 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: I think it is too soon, And I wish I 327 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: could say the other way because it's more fun, but 328 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: I have to be practice. It's about the future. The 329 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: fact that we're even asking this question is the problem. 330 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: And I know you're saying mac Jones lit it up, 331 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: but let's offer ten rookies are like like killing it. 332 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: Looking at the record of rookies right now in this league, 333 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: it's not great. Mac Jones is three and four. Three 334 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: of those winds, of course coming against other rookie quarterbacks. 335 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Not a wasted pick. No rookie 336 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: is setting the league on fire. So it's about the future, 337 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: develop sit Grandma methods. So conservatively to Sean, yeah, yeah, 338 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: it's definitely too soon. I think when you look at 339 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: the Trey Lands, they drafted him to not play like. 340 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: They didn't draft him, to your point, to be the 341 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: quarterback right now to start Week one. They drafted him 342 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: to basically have a rich shirt year. The only reason 343 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: he even got on the fields because Jimmy g got hard. 344 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: Let me refresh. You usually go on, let me say 345 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: is it worth? Is it worth two first round picks 346 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: and Trey Lance over mac Jones? They mean they don't 347 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: first round picks the next two years. That's the question. 348 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: It's the bounty they gave up to get Tree Lance winner. 349 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: If you stayed at twelve, you get mac Jones, and 350 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: not think mac Jones is better than Jimmy garoppolom I 351 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: do so. Do you think it's too early? I think 352 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: it's fair to I don't think it's too early to 353 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: question the maneuvering um. I think they were caught off 354 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: guard when the Ram got Stafford. I think they wanted 355 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: Rogers and I don't know. It seems like a bounty 356 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: of picks for a guy who's not contributing to a 357 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: team that can win now, and there's expectations to win now. 358 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: So you're changing the question now. You don't want it. 359 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: You don't like the bill, You don't like the costs 360 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: of dinner. That might be like it. You like it 361 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: when you saw the menu and you ordered it, but 362 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: when the bill came it was. It's a wow trade 363 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: now to still think of not just the Trand's resume 364 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: was tame, incredibly raw at a lower level, like it 365 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: is pretty he may never would be good, and we 366 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: could have that conversation, Peter, I think the way I 367 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: think Kyle is pretty sure that he can he can 368 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: make he can win games with him, he can make 369 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: him good. But to personalize this a little bit, how 370 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: about Eli Manning? Huh? All right? It wasn't until the 371 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: Giants we won a super Bowl in two thousand and seven. 372 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: Elis fourth year that people started saying, hey, Ernie, of course, 373 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: a great job. You got to be patient. That's your 374 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: four Yeah right, and I'll to forget we week three, 375 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: we wake up, we're all in too New York Posts. 376 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: He has a bust, get Tom out of here. So 377 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: that was in their in their fourth year, and it's 378 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: Sam donald reach seven. Sam Donalds third year with the Jets, 379 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: and they're like, all right, it's not working, Like we're 380 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: getting out of here. They might not have the patience 381 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: that and I think Trailand is gonna have that opportunity. 382 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: I think the question that I'm posing here is did 383 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: they give up too much? Could they have stayed back. 384 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: Is Jimmy really that seems a mess right now? And 385 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: you really could point to that trade and say what 386 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: was the because now in the future we two first 387 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: round pick. Right. Do you think they should just start 388 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: trailance rested? I mean, if it's a lost season, I've 389 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: said since the buy that he's going to do it. 390 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: I think he would like And plus Jimmy was really bad. 391 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: Its terrible. The irony of this whole segment. It all 392 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: comes together. Matt Ryan played his best football and he 393 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: had Kyle Shanahan, right, I mean, that's the people have 394 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: kept him, and then we got some He's like to 395 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: Dow Kevin Bacon. You know, I'm from his time with 396 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: the Patriots to Chase and the Falcons. Let's say hello 397 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 1: to Scott Paoli five times. Don't believe the hype, Scott. 398 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: You've been on these teams that just have these meteoric rises, 399 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 1: and one of them right now that we're enjoying as 400 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: a show as the Cincinnati Bengals. They're currently tied for 401 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: first place in the entire AFC with a five and 402 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: two record, looking at a potential one seed in the playoffs. 403 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: If we were to start today let's talk about where 404 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: they did in Week seven and what it means to 405 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: go into your rivals building, the bullies in the division 406 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: and beat them so handling. What does that do for 407 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: a team moving forward the rest of the way, Peter, 408 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: It does a lot. You know what it does is 409 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: it initially it does two things. Particularly, it instills hopefulness 410 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: and belief. Right because there's a team right now, the 411 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: Bengals who haven't believed in a whole lot of things. 412 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: They would win a game year, they'd win a game there, 413 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: but they didn't know what they have. They have a 414 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: young quarterback and they beat the big dog on the block. 415 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: So to me, what they have now again is this 416 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: hopefulness in this belief. But the big part is they 417 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: have to keep this in perspective because as important to 418 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: win as it was within the division, and division wins 419 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: are huge, it's just one win, you know. And I 420 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: remember this because back when I was a part of 421 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: the New York Jets, we were a team that ascended 422 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: it in one finally took over the division that one year. 423 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: And then when I was with the Patriots, we did 424 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: the same thing. But I was also on the other 425 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: side when I was with the Cleveland Browns and we 426 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: were a good team. We won eleven games one season. 427 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: We also went into the wildcard ground won a playoff game, 428 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: but we lost three games that season to the bullies 429 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: on the block, who were the Pittsburgh Steelers. We lost 430 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: at home, we lost it on the road, then we 431 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: lost in the playoffs. So when you win a big 432 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: game within the division, again, it gives you this hopefulness 433 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: that can inspire the football team, but you have to 434 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: be energized by it. But then the entire organization needs 435 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, let's take this for what it is 436 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: and move forward. That sounds great and it sounds energizing. 437 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: I guess the polar opposite of that, Scott would be 438 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: losing to the twenty twenty one New York Jets, which 439 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: the Titans did in the middle of a very unique 440 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: start to the season. They lose to the Jets, and 441 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: then they just completed the twenty twenty AFC title games 442 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: sweep by beating the Chiefs and the Bills. And there's 443 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: something to be said, Scott when it comes to team 444 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: building in philosophy, about not just pulling the ripcord, not 445 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: abandoning in the plants, sticking to who you are and 446 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: driving through the fire. What are your thoughts on the 447 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: Titans season right now? Kyle? This was an important step 448 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: these two games because every team puts in place a process, 449 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 1: and the process involves player acquisition, player development, and then 450 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: it also has to do with finding a way to 451 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: win games. And what they've done the last two weeks 452 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: is they've played clean football and they've been rewarded for 453 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: their behavior. Right this very Pad Lobby. You played clean football. 454 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: You do the right things, you do something, you get rewarded. 455 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: Now you go back to that early game against the Jets. 456 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: This is one of the beautiful things at the National 457 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: Football League. I think sometimes people forget that every team 458 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: is playing with other professional football players and they have 459 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: a chance to win. That old cliche that any given Sunday, 460 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: it's a cliche because it's true. You know, I go 461 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: back to what Brady said to me last year after 462 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: he had that fourth down third, that whole thing going on, 463 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: and as I said something to him afterwards, he says, hey, 464 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: you know what, Scott, Sometimes even Betty Crocker burns the brownies, 465 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: and that was the Tennessee Titans brownie moment. Of brownies 466 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: being burnt moment against the Jets. But this is really 467 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: important because now again they're seeing their behavior reward. They've 468 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: taken the next step. They've gone from worried about winning 469 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: the division, as we just talked about in the previous question, 470 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: but now the next thing is win the big ones 471 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: within the conference, and that's the station that the Titans 472 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: are at right now. Peel, It great to see you. 473 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: As always, I've been negative on Matt Ryan, I've eviscerated 474 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. Let's talk about the Chiefs also not doing 475 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 1: anything really great lately or to start the season here 476 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, after back to back super role appearances, 477 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: they scored three Measley points in their loss to the 478 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: Titans that you were just talking about. Patrick Mahomes did 479 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: not look like his old self, even before the game 480 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: with an injury or leaving the game with an injury 481 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: as well at the end of that awful hit. Is 482 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: this starting to feel a little more serious then? Oh, 483 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: it's a bad stretch for Kansas City. They'll figure it out. 484 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Yeah, I think that it's starting 485 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: to feel that way, But I know this, I know 486 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: Andy Reid and his staff and that organization. They are 487 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: some of the best at what they do in this league. 488 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: So I'm guaranteeing that they were sensing some of what's 489 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: happening right now before it happened. Here's the thing, though, 490 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: Andy Reid is still one of the best and most 491 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: experienced coaches in the league. He knows what to go 492 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: to to help free this out. He's got a tremendous staff, 493 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: and we all know how talented this football team is. 494 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: To me, right now, what it comes down to is 495 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: a couple of things. And I'm an outsider, or all 496 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: outsiders they know best. But what I've seen from my 497 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: playing outsider's eye is the fact that they're not playing 498 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: football because they're not executing well. The offensive line is 499 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 1: not playing well. And to me, one of the biggest 500 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: tells with any team that's having a struggles is they 501 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: are tied for dead lass in the turnover differential. They're 502 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: tied with the Jacksonville Jaguars. And when you are minus 503 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: eleven in turnover differential, you're gonna have trouble winning games 504 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: because yet means you're just not getting points on the 505 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: board and you're giving the other team more opportunity to 506 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: get points. Yeah, it's sloppy football, Scott, no doubt about it. 507 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: You know, turnovers are a quick way to lose games. 508 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: So we're injuries, which are an ugly part of the game. 509 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: I know, as players, obviously that's the toughest part for us, 510 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: But when you're managing a team and a roster, that 511 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: can become very cumbersome. And you go back to the 512 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns last week, both running backs out, no Nick Chubb. 513 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: All right, you've got no Kareem Hunt. Now they've got 514 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: to dig down deep into the barrel. The Ernest Johnson 515 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: makes his first career start, has an unbelievable game. And 516 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, from your standpoint, how tough is that 517 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: to make sure that you've got enough depth on there. 518 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: And the extended practice squad does that make it easier now? Well, 519 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: I think they extended practice squad makes it easier in 520 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: the sense that you have a larger pool of players 521 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: to work with, to develop and to evaluate to see 522 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: who you're gonna put in the game. But to me, 523 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: that was probably one of my favorite games last week 524 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: because it showed a program that has a philosophy and 525 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: a process in place, and I know, some people get 526 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: tired of the word process, but there's a real process 527 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: in place, and a big part of it is you 528 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: have to bring in the right kind of players that 529 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: are willing to understand that they have to grow, they 530 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: have to develop, and they have to prepare so that 531 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: when their opportunity comes, they will be ready. And that 532 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: was the case here. And I've been a part of 533 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: teams where this was a core part of our culture. 534 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: Right when I was with the Patriots, we had some 535 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: guys remember Ben Jarvis green Ellis. We had Troy Brown 536 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: playing at cornerback. We had guys that did things in 537 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: practice that even though maybe it wasn't their primary job 538 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: or it was their primary job. Not only did the 539 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: players have to do extra to prepare, but there was 540 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: a culture in our locker room. And the packers started 541 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: with the with the head coach, the assistant coaches, the 542 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: front office, but also the locker room guys like Mike Rabel, 543 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: guys like Larry Iso, Teddy Bruskie, Willie McGinnis. They all 544 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: got on players so much. They made sure players were 545 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: not only in meetings, but they were paying attention to 546 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: means they were having their own meetings. The players invested 547 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: in themselves in terms of helping players develop. So when 548 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: the opportunity did come, just like it did the other night, 549 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: the player was ready, and the coaches also know what 550 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: plays to run with the player to make them successful. 551 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: I love it on behalf of Fred Baxter and Mark Edwards, 552 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: everybody and Tom Ashworth Scott. We appreciated that Patriots team 553 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: and everyone's stepping up when they had too. We also 554 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: appreciate you stepping up. And you got what it looks 555 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: like a New Yorker cartoon behind you? What is that dog? 556 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: I like, I don't know what I have. I'm in 557 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: this hotel room and I tell you what, I'm not sure. 558 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: This is the best view I could give you, guys, 559 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: and it's not very good. All right, looks like I 560 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: could use it? Are like the dog? Hey, how you're 561 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: playing with power? Dan Hans, This is weekend power Rankings. 562 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: We know how we do this. But the category every time. 563 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: Today the category is flies. Let's get right into it. 564 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: Fly fishing. That's the first one. Twenty five from thirty two. 565 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: These are Dan's Power Rankings, not ours. The Houston Texans 566 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: below the Jets at thirty two and move up to Lions, Dolphins, Jaguars, 567 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: the Panthers at twenty five really fallen on hard times. Next, 568 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: let's go to the flies category. The Flies is a 569 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: one hit wonder from the nineties Dan a song called 570 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: Got You Where I Want. You will hear it in 571 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: the next commercial break Hesburg Steelers. It's seventeen disturbing behavior soundtrack. 572 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: Then the Patriots, Niners, you got your Bears, Giants Seattle, 573 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 1: look at them down at twenty two after last night. 574 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: Moving so the Jimmy super Flies snook a division starting 575 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: the upper left, the Chargers in the Titans, and did 576 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: the Titans just beat the Bills in the Chiefs and 577 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: they're ten. You got answers for that, Hansas. And then 578 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: there's your favorite teams there. We'll get a Chiefs Raiders 579 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: are below them reperplectic here and then finally let's move 580 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: into the Jeff Goldblum division here and Gina just tearing 581 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: up scenery in that movie. The Cardinals are the best 582 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: team in the league, the Buccaneers, the Bills who just 583 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: lost to the Titans were at ten, Cowboys, Rams, Packers 584 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: before the Thursday nighter, and then Bengals Ravens coming off 585 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: a really tough loss too, Dan, how are you? We 586 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: got questions? I got answers, I hope and now I 587 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: have a fly by Sugar Ray in my head, the 588 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: only good Sugar Ray song ever, Summer song of ninety seven. 589 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: I would disagree with your arms around me, baby, I 590 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: have every morning, guy. But listen, the Ravens something we 591 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: talk about every morning. They stuff with the huge loss 592 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: of the Bengals, So let's talk about it. They got 593 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: this Burrow to Chase thing going on here. Dan, tell 594 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: us how powerful it is and how you incorporate that 595 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: into your rankings. I mean, it's undeniable. And all the 596 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: offseason talk about, oh they should have taken Piney Seul, 597 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: that all seems ridiculous, and I mean I was pounding 598 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: the table on our dumb podcast about it. But look 599 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: what we got going on here. We got something special 600 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: going on. We have Joe Burrow, who has taken the 601 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: leap in year two, and Jamar Chase, who is transcended. 602 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: He's breaking records as a rookie. And if you could 603 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: keep this big three together, mix and Chase and Burrow, 604 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: they can make a deep run. This is incredible and 605 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: it's not just the Big three the defense is playing 606 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: great well as well. Right Raiders five and two, their 607 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: fans awake all across the country. They're not happy with 608 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: where you have them, even though you keep bringing them 609 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: up and up week to week. What's your story and 610 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: thoughts on this team? Well, they're an interesting team, k 611 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: because when John Gruden resigned in disgrace, the idea and 612 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: the thought and the narrative in a lot of places 613 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 1: was what they were never building anything. But they had 614 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: started three and oh, and they'd gone into a little 615 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: two game funk right when Gruden disappeared. But this was 616 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: always a team on the rise to me, and now 617 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: they're back playing well again. They've won two games with 618 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: Rich Pisacchi as the interim GM coach, I should say, 619 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: and Derek Carr is playing absolutely out of his mind. 620 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: He's never late at this level. He's had streaks in 621 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: his career where he's looked like a true franchise quarterback, 622 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: but he's always been like a twelve to fifteen range 623 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: quarterback in the Big Victor. Right now, he's a top 624 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: five guy. I don't think it's it's deniable. So car 625 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: playing at this level, you see them as a team 626 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: that can absolutely get back to the playoffs. With the 627 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: Chiefs being a mess, it's wide open in that division. Dan, 628 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: let's talk about the Packers. They just beat the Washington 629 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: football team, maybe not a lot of style points for them, 630 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: but now they're facing your number one ranked team, the 631 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and they're gonna have to do it without 632 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: DeVante Adams, who just was placed on the COVID nineteen list. 633 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: How challenging is that. I mean, it's definitely challenging. We 634 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: got some input from Alan Lazard and Bobby Tanya in 635 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: this past week, and that's good because the offense needs 636 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: a little variety to it. But DeVante Adams is an 637 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: important a player in a non quarterback position as anybody 638 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: in the league. So if he's not playing Thursday, that's 639 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: bad news. And then when he watched this game against Washington, 640 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: Greenway was not very impressive. They were out gained by 641 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: watching and there was that bizarre I think it was 642 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: a sham the tail or Hinde game and zone give 643 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: up that they brought back and then led to a 644 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: turnover on down. They had another turnover on downson close 645 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: to the next series, So I thought green Bay was 646 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: lucky to get out of there with a win without 647 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: Davante I like the Cardinals on Thursday. Yeah, they without 648 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator, potentially to Joe Barry and the red 649 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: zone defense finally awokened a team that is now suddenly 650 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: one we're watching and we've got a lot of fondness 651 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: at the table for the Indianapolis Colts. Their recent resurgence 652 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: has gone relatively unnoticed, but here we are there in 653 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: the mix, and they now play the Titans in a 654 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: huge game. What do you think of the matchup? And 655 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: what do you think of the AFC South suddenly one 656 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: of the best divisions in the league. Yeah, and it's frisky, 657 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: and I think it all comes down to what happens 658 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: at Lucas Oil Stadium in Week eight. Because of the Titans, 659 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: who are playing as well as anybody right now, spank 660 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: the Cults, they take complete control of that division at 661 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: six and two, the Colts fall to three and five, 662 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: and it's kind of a rap. But if the Colts 663 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: find a way to win, they get the Jets Jaguars, 664 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: I believe the next two weeks after that, and they 665 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: are in great position to make a runner. We'll be 666 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: right back where we always are a teams at the 667 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,239 Speaker 1: end of December, Colts Titans within a game with one 668 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: or two games to play, consider our hearts kick started. 669 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to check out NFL Power Rankings presented by 670 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: an Energizer every Tuesday in NFL dot Com and primetime 671 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: Tuesdays an NFL Network Dan. For some of these teams, 672 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: just the same old situation. We'd be nowhere without you, 673 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: And if anybody's mad about it, tell him, don't go 674 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: away mad, just go away. Thank you. You need you 675 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: needed the crew more than ever today, Kyle, So there 676 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: they are for you. Height. Welcome back to Good Morning Football. 677 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: How's your October going, because our next guest is coming 678 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: off consecutive games with one hundred rushing yards for the 679 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: first time in his NFL career, Yes, first two touchdown 680 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: game on Sunday, one of the hottest backs in the league. 681 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: Please welcome from the University Alabama running back Damien Harris. 682 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: What's up, Damian? Damien? Roll time? Guys, how are you 683 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: guys doing this morning? Great? Cool to talk to you. 684 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: We've talked about you for weeks, months, years, and now 685 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: we can finally go face to face after a weekend 686 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: which you had two Russian touchdowns. All right, you had 687 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: two touchdowns in your first two seasons. This year you 688 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: already have five on the year. Damian, What is click 689 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: for you in year three with the Patriots? Because you 690 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: look great? I think they just over the course of 691 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: the year. You know, our team has started to click. Obviously, 692 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: the start of the season hasn't been exactly what we 693 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: wanted it to be. But you know, I say it 694 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: all the time. We got a team full of hard workers, 695 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: a team full of you know, competitive guys. So if 696 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: we keep showing up every day ready to work, putting 697 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: our heads down and grind in and just continue to 698 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: work and move forward every single day, we think that 699 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: we can turn the season around. So I think all 700 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: around offense, defense, special teams. You know, things were starting 701 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: to come together. You know, we're having great weeks of practice, 702 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: We're preparing well. So if we keep doing that, you know, 703 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: be exciting to see what happens the rest of the season. Damian. 704 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: I've heard on Wei mac Jones said that if he 705 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: was to do a remake of the movie Step Brothers, 706 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: you would cast you as the guy he would want 707 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: to play as his brother. Of course, he spent what 708 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: two seasons together in college at Alabama and now your 709 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: teammates in New England. I want to ask you what 710 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: it's been like watching him, but also just one specific thing, 711 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: what have you noticed has sort of evolved with Mac 712 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: Jones as he's now an NFL quarterback? Um, you know, 713 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: obviously he's been great working with the Mac. You know, 714 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: we've been such great friends for a long time. So, 715 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, having somebody that I've got such a strong 716 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: relationship with, you know, it's been Obviously it's been great 717 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: for us to be teammates. But I think that Mag 718 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: just does a good job just being him. You know, 719 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: since the day that I met him. You know, even 720 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: in Alabama back in those days, whenever we had you know, 721 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: other guys and he was kind of waiting his turn, 722 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: I knew that there was something special with this kid. 723 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: All of us did, and we knew that once he 724 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: got his opportunity, he was going to show the world 725 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: what he was made of. And I think that he's 726 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: done just that. So, I mean, he's been incredible to watch. 727 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: You know, he he does his job, and I think 728 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: that that's what this organization is is based on just 729 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: guys doing their job, just doing what you're supposed to do. 730 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: So watched him continue to improve and just be himself, 731 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, carry what he brings on the field to 732 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: this team. I think he's been truly special and it's 733 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: been great for our team so far. All Right, So 734 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: you've coached, You've had coaches Nick Saban and now Bill 735 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: Belichick soon and Mac Jones, so did so many other people. 736 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: We know how close they are. Do you see some 737 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: Saban in Belichick? Do you see some Belichick in Saban? 738 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: And can you tell us something lighthearted about Belichick that 739 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: we might not know that you do there in the 740 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: building every day. I definitely think that there are a 741 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: lot of similarities between coach Belichick and coach Saban, but 742 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: I think there's differences as well. You know, their own 743 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: coaches and they run their programs similarly, but they're different 744 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: at the same time. I know that that sounds kind 745 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: of confusing, but you know, they have certain ways, and 746 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: you know, they both just kind of base the way 747 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: that they run their programs on hard work, doing all 748 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: the little things right, playing good fundamental football, and just 749 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: going out there and being a physical, tough, physical, smart 750 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: football team the place for sixty minutes. So I think that, 751 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, they both do a good job of running 752 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 1: their programs with that mentality, and I think that obviously 753 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: it's paid off. I mean, you know, the proof is 754 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: in the pudding. You see what both of these men 755 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 1: have done as coaches. But you know, with Coach Belichick, 756 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: I think that he's just I think that in terms 757 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: of our program, he carries so much about the players, 758 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: and he's so concerned about, you know, doing what it's 759 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: best for the team, but also what's best for the players. 760 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: And I think that people don't necessarily see that all 761 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: the time. You know, everybody knows the coach Belichick is. 762 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: He's a stone cold guy. So it may be hard 763 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: to see that on the outside, but I can tell 764 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: you from being inside these walls, inside this program that 765 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, he cares so much about his players and 766 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: putting us in the best positions to be successful. And 767 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: I think that's what a true leader does. You know, 768 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: whatever it takes for our players to be successful, he's 769 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: willing to do that. So I think that that's, you know, 770 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: been one of the one of the greatest joys of 771 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: having him as a coach, knowing that no matter the circumstance, 772 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: He's going to do whatever he feels is best for 773 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: our players on our team. Yeah, going from Saban to Belichick, 774 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: they're both pretty stone cold, so that makes you pretty tough. Damian. 775 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: Listen back to back one hundred yard games. I don't 776 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: know how old you were the last time the Patriots 777 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: had a running back with three straight one hundred yard gums. 778 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 1: I mean, you might might have been seven years old. 779 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: Corey Dillon was the last guy to do it. It 780 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: was probably years ago. And you have a chance to 781 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: do just that. And you're playing the La Chargers, So 782 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm just curious. Have you started watching film on them? 783 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: What are you what are you expecting from their defense? 784 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: And if you had a choice, would you rather run 785 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: a zone scheme or would you rather run the gap scheme? Um, 786 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, whatever the coach causes is what I 787 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: want to run. You know, I'm not I'm not very particular, 788 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: because again, I have a lot of trust in our 789 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: coaching staff to do whatever they think it's best for 790 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: our team and for our players. So whatever they call, 791 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, we go out there and run, and we 792 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: just want to have eleven guys on the same page 793 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: doing the same thing. And you know, ready to go 794 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: out there and do our jobs. You know, we know 795 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: we got a tough team this week. We know the 796 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: Chargers are obviously playing well. They're one of the best 797 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 1: teams in the league. Defensively, they do a lot of things. 798 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: They give a lot of people troubled. They got great 799 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: players in the front end they can rush the pass, 800 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: or they got great linebackers they can run sideline to sideline. 801 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: And then obviously they got great players in the secondary 802 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: that can track the ball, play the ball well, and 803 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: they don't let anything get over their heads. So you know, 804 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: we got to challenge on all three on all three levels. 805 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: And like I said, we know this one of the 806 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: best teams in the league offense, defense, special teams. You know, 807 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: they do a lot of the great things well, So 808 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: you know we're gonna have to play our best football. 809 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: And like I said, and you know, if we come 810 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: in here this week, have a great week in preparation, 811 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: we go out there on Sunday and we play our 812 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: best football, you know, we think we got a chance 813 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: against anybody. So we'll get to work this week and 814 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: we're looking forward to the challenge on Sunday. It sounds 815 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: like they need to lower that shoulder, damn. And on 816 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: that note, on Tuesdays here we do a segment called 817 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: Angry Runs. It's like the shirt says, will we give 818 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: an award out to whoever has the most physically dominant 819 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: run of the week. In fact, teammate John new Smith 820 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: just won it today, so we'll be sending him a 821 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: scepter to Foxborough look out for that for us with 822 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: you will. But earlier this year, in Week two, we 823 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 1: had the hardest decision we have ever had in the segments, 824 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: still reverberating to this day. You did this and ran 825 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: right through the Jets and broke fifty seven different tackles 826 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: and lost Angry Runs because Naji Harris of the Steelers 827 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: through a man tell us about this play and did 828 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: we get it wrong? Well, first of all, shout out 829 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: to my guy John new Smith Angry running the week. 830 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: Congrats to him. You know he got his nickname is 831 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: the Beast, so clearly it's it's very fitting that he 832 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: won Angry Angry Run of the Week. But you know, 833 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: that was a great play obviously, you know it was 834 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: an exciting play. You know, I can't really say too 835 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: much about it. Still watch it sometimes just because you know, 836 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: it was one of those career plays that you make 837 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: that you know, I want to remember that play forever. 838 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: But you know, Najie had a great run. It was 839 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: a great stiff arm and Nazi's been doing things like 840 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: that since he was born. Uh, so I can't really, 841 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't blame you guys. You know, Naji 842 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: is a tough dude. He's a hard runner, and what 843 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: he did on that step arm was pretty it was 844 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 1: pretty angry. So I think you guys made the right decision. Uh. 845 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: You know, I had a good play, he had a 846 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: great play. You know, it's it's really cool to see, 847 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: you know, somebody like Naji, a guy that I played with, 848 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: and you know a lot of other Bama guys across 849 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: the league just making plays weekend and week out, you know, 850 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: every Sunday. So you know, it's great to even be 851 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: and have the opportunity to be, you know, be able 852 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: to win that. But I wouldn't rather lose to anybody else. 853 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: I know that. Uh you know, losing is not something 854 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 1: that I like to do often. But if somebody was 855 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: gonna beat me, I would love for it to be 856 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: another Alabama guy. So congrats to Nagy on a great run, 857 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: a great step arm and like I said, shout out 858 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: to our guy John for Angry runn of the Week 859 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: this week. You are an angry monster on the field 860 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: and the classiest gentleman maybe we have ever met on 861 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: this show. Damien Harris, a beautiful man, an angry runner. 862 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: We know you will be back in good luck this 863 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: weekend against the Chargers, going for another on your dark game. 864 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,439 Speaker 1: We'll we're rooting for you, man. I appreciate you guys, 865 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: thank you for your time. I'm just gonna call it 866 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: right now. He's gonna get it. Chargers. They're giving up 867 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: five point three yards per carry. They just give up 868 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: six rushing touchdowns the cast. We just start three Baltimore Ravens, 869 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: four touchdowns the Chargers against the run Yeakes. Fantasy football 870 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: gaming heres will have a gayard. Don't tell them have 871 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: a big launch, right It'll tell them a Georgia guy 872 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 1: has the sceptre right now. Yeah. Good Morning Football is 873 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: the production of the NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. For 874 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: more official podcasts from the NFL, visit the iHeartRadio app, 875 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.