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Speaker 1: All right, what's up. This is Michael Rapport brand new

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Speaker 1: Iron rapp Reports Stereo podcast. Today's guests Utah Jazz forward

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Speaker 1: Jonas Jerebko from the country of Sweden. I love this guy.

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Speaker 1: I love his story. He was talking about how he

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Speaker 1: grew up in Sweden, wind up playing in the professional

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Speaker 1: wind up playing professional basketball in Italy, and then finally

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Speaker 1: episode of the Iron Rapports Stereo Podcast with Jonas Jarepko

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Speaker 1: Lost and Translation with Utah Jazz forward Jonas Jerebko. First,

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Speaker 1: All right, All new Iron Rapports Stereo Podcast. My name

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Speaker 1: is Michael rapp Report a k A. The Gringo Mandingo

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Speaker 1: a k A. White Mike a k was the White

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Speaker 1: folks um. If you've never listened to the Iron Rapports

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Speaker 1: no fact checking. So this is what's gonna go down today.

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Speaker 1: So as I told you, Utah jazz forward from Sweden,

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Speaker 1: born and raised in Sweden. Jonas Darepko got to sit

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Speaker 1: down with him talk about how he wound up in

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Speaker 1: the NBA, what it's like playing pro basketball and Sweden,

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Speaker 1: what it's like playing pro basketball in Italy, and finally

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Speaker 1: getting drafted to the Detroit Pistons. Last year, he made

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Speaker 1: a huge impact. Although the Celtics lost to the Cleveland Cavaliers,

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Speaker 1: he was out there inging, talking, getting physical, playing the

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Speaker 1: kind of basketball that is is adored by the Iron

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Speaker 1: Rapports stereo podcast crew. Um, so we got him, Jonas Darevko. Um.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure if I'm saying his name right.

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Speaker 1: I said it wrong right to his face many times.

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Speaker 1: I'm still not sure if I've perfected saying Jonas Jarevko.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying my best. Um. My history and my ties

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Speaker 1: to Sweden are long and deep. You might say, what

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Speaker 1: are you talking about? My my brother, Professor Eric Rappaport,

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Speaker 1: he's the professor. Um has been married for twenty years.

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Speaker 1: I think it's twenty years, I said, we don't fact check, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I believe he's been married for twenty years. It may

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Speaker 1: even be longer to a beautiful Swedish woman from Upsala. Okay,

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Speaker 1: oops Ala, Sweden. Look it up. Look it up. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure I'm not pronouncing Oopsla, but look it up. You

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Speaker 1: My brother speaks Swedish, his daughter speaks Swedish, and his wife,

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Speaker 1: of course, she's born in Sweden, she was raised in Sweden.

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Speaker 1: She speaks Swedish. You know who else also speaks Swedish,

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Speaker 1: Jonas Jerebko of the Utah Jazz. Okay, there's so many

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Speaker 1: things going on in the world. So the other day

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Speaker 1: It's embarrassing. Um, and I see the front page on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: lobsters lobsters the animal. That's right, lobsters, the animal that

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Speaker 1: that ship that can't talk. I'm sure there's ways they communicate,

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Speaker 1: a big deal. But lobsters feel pain when they are

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Speaker 1: being boiled in water. Okay, this is a non story

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Speaker 1: to me. So in Switzerland they are banning they are

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Speaker 1: banning people from cooking lobsters by boiling them in water. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is not bullshit. Look it up. They are banning

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Speaker 1: people from cooking lobsters by boiling them in water. They

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Speaker 1: say it's inhumane. Okay, Now I'm not a linguist. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the chips fall. Okay, but this is insane, Okay, because

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Speaker 1: how could something be inhumane to a fucking lobster. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense right there. Okay, they're saying that

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Speaker 1: the lobster feels pain when it is being boiled. I

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Speaker 1: feel pain. I feel fucking pain twenty four hours a day.

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Speaker 1: If it's not emotional, it's mental. If it's not mental,

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Speaker 1: suffering from a mild headache. If it's not a mild headache,

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Speaker 1: I'm dealing with a colonoscopy, I'm dealing with an ultrative

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Speaker 1: colitis issue. I feel pain all the time. Nobody's going

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Speaker 1: out of their way doing a big twitter uproar to

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Speaker 1: protect me, Michael Rappaport. But the fucking lobsters. Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you something. If I buy a lobster in a restaurant,

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Speaker 1: to cook, or my wife does because I don't do

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Speaker 1: been banned from the kitchen. That's not the point. If

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Speaker 1: But if I bring a fucking lobster home from the

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Speaker 1: store and I want to boil that little fucker, I'm

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Speaker 1: boiling that motherfucker. Ain't no thing but a chicken wing.

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Speaker 1: It ain't no thing but a chicken wing. Okay, what

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Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Arrest me? That's what's gonna happen next.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna start arresting people for boiling lobsters. What are

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Speaker 1: it's more humane. Again, they're using the term humane for

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Speaker 1: What the fuck is going on in the world. The Swiss,

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Speaker 1: business like you do with everything else. They're saying, it's

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Speaker 1: more humane if you hammer the fucking lobster over the

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Speaker 1: sound pleasant at least if you're in a pot of

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Speaker 1: to live, make it out of the pot. But they're

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Speaker 1: saying it's it's less pain if you just beat the

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Speaker 1: into a whole violent act. And what if you what

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Speaker 1: I'm eat my lobster. How I want to eat my lobster? Okay,

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Speaker 1: were a bunch of great games. Um. Golden State Warriors

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Speaker 1: Game after game. Lebron James cannot guard Kevin Durant. Now,

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Speaker 1: find made me running around the fucking carrier dough. I

418
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: deserved it. I deserved it, and obviously I wasn't as

419
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Speaker 1: accomplished as you. They're probably looking at you, all, we

420
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: want this guy to come here. They wanted me to

421
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: get the funk out of the camp. Yeah, I was

422
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: there for I think it was two times I went

423
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: to that camp. Uh. First year, they didn't really uh

424
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: know who I was. Obviously Dad played there, so they

425
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: gave me a little extra attention. Uh. Second time, I

426
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: was like sixteen, I was a little bigger prospect, but

427
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: they still they still didn't like recruit me or anything. Uh.

428
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: Then I got a little bit older and I started

429
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: rising in the rankings and they called me and wanted

430
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: me to go over there. But it's too late, so

431
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 1: you're not. So when you're sixteen and you're you're obvious,

432
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: see you're doing well in Swedish playing high school basketball

433
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: club teams. It's all so what does that mean? Because

434
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: we we hear that over here a lot. He played

435
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: for the club team. He was the star there Nicolina,

436
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: and we're just, I think, as fans, starting to give

437
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: it some sort of credence, whereas before he be like

438
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: I don't give ship club teams in France and he's, Oh,

439
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: he's seventeen. What do you do he's and this one's

440
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: like Nicoline's nineteen, Like I don't fun is he played?

441
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: I'll explain it. Club teams are like yeah, I mean,

442
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: let's say to Boston, Celtics are a club team. You

443
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: started in Sweden, you said, I started playing basketball. You

444
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: were allowed to play I think fourth grade. So then

445
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: you play with everybody that's your age, so you have

446
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: an age group all the way up to eighteen years old.

447
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: Then it's the men's team. So you have all these

448
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: teams from fourth grade up to eighteen years old, and

449
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: they're all aged based for for like, but it'll be

450
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: like the Celtics will be all Celtics, all young Celtics.

451
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: So the club teams like are the pro teams? Yeah,

452
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: and the head that the older like the eighteen after eighteen,

453
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: it's all only the men's team and that's the pro

454
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: or that's the highest you know you can go. And

455
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: then you have divisions. You have like Division one, Division two,

456
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: Division three, Division four. So in Sweden there's like, what

457
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: are the names of the teams that are like the

458
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: pot what's the Celtics and Lakers over there? I mean um,

459
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: you know you have. Stockholm got a couple of teams.

460
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: I played for a team up north and Lulio. I

461
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: signed a one year deal. That was my first professional deal.

462
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: And your how old? Then? I was a teen and

463
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: I just finished high school? You just finished high school.

464
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: But it's a whole or sort of like dynamic of

465
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: like basketball a you college, the whole other thing. Yeah,

466
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: no way, you know, nothing like that. I think I

467
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: was sixteen when I mean I was playing with the

468
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: guys who were two years older. I was playing with

469
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: the guys, I mean the under eighteen team when I

470
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: was like fifteen. Um, and then I kind of worked

471
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: my way up to the men's team. But they were

472
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Speaker 1: in the second division in Sweden, which means what they're

473
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: not as good as the first division. The first division

474
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: were professionals. You don't make a lot of money, but

475
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: you can make a living playing Swedish league. They got

476
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: a couple of Americans per team. So the second division

477
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: are are amateurs, but it's it's a good level. It's

478
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: a good level for for me when I was fifteen sixteen,

479
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: because you're playing with men, playing with fourty year olds,

480
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: thirty five year olds, you know, they smell like cigarettes

481
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: and ship some of them. Did you know you had

482
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: some old guys that've been around and played in some

483
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: pretty good leagues that are under Europe that are now,

484
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, chilling and just just playing in the second division.

485
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: I got you. So it's a whole professional basketball and

486
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: Sweden is it is it like this in all Europe

487
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: and all like all of like Spain, like in Italy,

488
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: like you hear these different leagues like Rubio's on your

489
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: team now, like there's all this. It's like a whole

490
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: other world. Yeah, but Sweden cannot be compared to like

491
00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: Spain or Turkey or Russia or Italy. Those leagues got

492
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: money right there. You know, obviously the money attracts the

493
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: better players, so you may have a lot better players.

494
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: And like even I'd say the second division in Italy

495
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: is better than the first division in Sweden because I

496
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: got more money, Like the Americans in the second division

497
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: in Italy are making more money than the Americans and Sweden.

498
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: So but the Swedish league is getting better. It only

499
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: has like eight teams right now because the economy, like nobody,

500
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: like I said that basketball is not very popular and unfortunately,

501
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, no sponsor money. So it's it's hard to

502
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: attract good players when you don't have no money. So

503
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: at the highest level in Sweden, like how many people

504
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: come to the games? Unfortunately not not enough, like hundreds,

505
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: thousands in some cases we're talking hundreds in some cases,

506
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, you might top out at two thousand people.

507
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: And does that bather you, Like, do you want to

508
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: try to build it up more? Yes, I mean I've

509
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: I've tried my whole career. Like I was more worried

510
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: about it when I was a rookie. Really, I really

511
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: try to get in the news and and like build basketball.

512
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: I played for the natch No team every year. Um.

513
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: But like I said, basketball, it's not like people don't

514
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: watch it, people don't read about it, they don't write

515
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: about it. And still nothing like so Lebron James and

516
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: like Kobe and like Iverson, they're not like a big

517
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: deal in Sweden. No, I mean, I feel like Lebron

518
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: could walk the streets of Stockholm and serious not be

519
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: super bothered. I mean it's like that, maybe not anymore.

520
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: Like if you take a guy like Lebron but like

521
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: like a super bring my whole team and we could

522
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: walk around and and and we wouldn't be super bothered.

523
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: It is pretty crazy. And so why did you not?

524
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: So you at a certain point you started to become

525
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: the best of your age, or you you're a standout.

526
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: You have a father who played it series. Why did

527
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: you not say, I want to go to Kentucky, I

528
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: want to go to U c. L A. I want

529
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: to go to St. John's wherever. Like, how did you

530
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: make the decision to to not do that? I mean,

531
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: I was pretty comfortable when I was fifteen sixteen going

532
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: to my school. A school was five minutes away. I

533
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: went and played for the in the second division. I

534
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: was the point guard at the time. I got the

535
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: ball all the time. I got to shoot as many

536
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: shots as I wanted. I had good coaches, good teammates.

537
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: We were winning. So I wasn't really worried about that.

538
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: I was mom and dad was like, finished high school,

539
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: then you can do whatever you want, Like if you

540
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: want to go to college, go to college. You want

541
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: to try to get a pro contract, get a pro contract. Um.

542
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: So I wasn't really into school, to be honest. They

543
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: told me. They told me just just pass all the grades,

544
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: don't get no ask were you you're a bad kid.

545
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: You're painting the ass because you get a little attitude,

546
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: not a bad way, but I could see like if

547
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: you're a good basketball Like yeah, I mean I love

548
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: just being in a gym. So love basketball. I love basketball.

549
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: I love sports. Like soon as school was over at three,

550
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: I was in the gym. I mean I took my bike.

551
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: I might have grabbed something to eat, but I was

552
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: in the gym. It was was there a people there?

553
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: Were you working out mostly by yourself? No, there was

554
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: Like the gym's in Sweden are not like here where

555
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: you can just go to the gym and have a

556
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: gym like it's set times like you can. So I

557
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: was in the gym maybe at four, maybe practice was

558
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: at six, so you had maybe the women's team practice

559
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: from four to five and then another team from five

560
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: to six. So I'll just jump in and practice with

561
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: the women. I'll practice with the guys who were two

562
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: years older. I practice with the guys who was younger, Like,

563
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: I didn't care. I was in the gym and waiting

564
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: for my practice and then obviously stay late. Um. But

565
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: then to my older days, when when I started playing

566
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: with that second division that was in a bigger town.

567
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: So I had to I had to. I had to

568
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: jump on a bus or train to get you know,

569
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: half an hour or forty five minutes away. And then okay,

570
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: so then you graduate high school, didn't what happens? Graduated

571
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: high school? I had thoughts of playing college ball. That

572
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: was the reaching out to you. Are they aware that

573
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: rebecco jarepco And I'm not doing that on purpose. It's

574
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna write it down, spell okay, juror jay.

575
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: The spelling is not gonna work. I have to spell

576
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: it my way, jareb Coo. All right, so I'm just

577
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: changing the spelling your kname, but at least i'll pronounce

578
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: it right. Yeah. When when I was like fifteen, like,

579
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: I didn't even get like picked out for the like

580
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: regional team in Sweden, and that made me pretty pretty upset,

581
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I'm better than everybody in this gym.

582
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: I had to go to the big city, which was Guthamburgh,

583
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: the second biggest city in Sweden. I didn't even get

584
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: picked out for the regional team. I had a guy

585
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: on my on my squad that hadn't played basketball for

586
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: a year, but he was like six seven. I was

587
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: a scrawny kid. I was like, I mean, I was short,

588
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: I was skinny. I mean, but I still had skills.

589
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: But I didn't even get picked out. So that kind

590
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: of made me upset. I think that kind of kind

591
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: of brought a little fire under me, like fuck you guys,

592
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: like I got it. I still to this day when

593
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: I see the guy who didn't pick me out, I'm like,

594
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: motherfucker like and it's like that I like that, and

595
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: like he's like, you're you're Michael Jordan's like when Jordan's

596
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: got cut And then later on I thought when he

597
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: got the Whole of Fame speech, he brought the coach

598
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: that cut him and shamed him at the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

599
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean I still I don't know the guy's last name,

600
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: but he's got the same his face. I know that

601
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: his face, and I know he's got the first his

602
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: name is Jonas also and he didn't Jonas Jonas his name,

603
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: and uh, I think that just brought a fire into

604
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: me because I mean after that, um, sixteen seventeen years old,

605
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: I started being picked out for the Swedish national team

606
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: a year or two later, and are you the best

607
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: player on that team in hindsight, No, come on, it's

608
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: it's we're with None of these guys are with the

609
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz. No they're not. But at that time, you're

610
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: not the best player on the team. I'm not the

611
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: best player on the team. I was like a kid

612
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: from a small town. They were all from Stockholm, like

613
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: small town, like what like Salt Lake City or like

614
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: smaller than that, small small ten thousand people maybe. Okay,

615
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: you know I'm from It's called Kinna. No you never

616
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: heard of it? Yeah, okay, that's my hometown. Um, I

617
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: mean we we've had some good ball players from there,

618
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: like the couple of guys that played in Europe to

619
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: the name for themselves and basketball. Um so I came

620
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: to the big city. You know, Stockholm kids Gothenburg. You know,

621
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: they're all bigger than me, because I didn't. I grew

622
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: my last year of high school and that's when I

623
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: started growing. But from what to what? Like? From how like?

624
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: We are you one of these? Because I think this

625
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: whole Anthony Davis thing is bullshit. You know, they go away.

626
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: He was six one and then I go and everyone

627
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: I've asked, I asked Andre Drummond I asked Bradley Beale.

628
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: I asked another person. I was like, did you ever

629
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: see Anthony Davis had six one? No one saw it,

630
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: So I think that's a fucking myth, you know what

631
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, oh, yeah, he grew nine inches over

632
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: the summer I got. I don't think that's for the

633
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: National Geographic Challenge Science Challenge. I would have to call

634
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: my mom and ask she, you know, kept the notes

635
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: and shipping on the door. You know. I was growing, um,

636
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: but I grew a lot. Like I remember, I went

637
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: to my I went to a visit at University of Buffalo, Okay.

638
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: I had my family from Buffalo Okay. So I was like,

639
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: oh man, man, I'll do a visit to them see

640
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: my family. At the same time, I think I was

641
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: like six five one seventy one or something. And I

642
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: mean I was when I was eighteen. So so at

643
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: this point you're not thinking like I could play pro basketball,

644
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: like NBA basketball. Well that's when I started realizing I'm

645
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm pretty good. Like I'm getting offers from colleges.

646
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: I got some letters of think floora, I got let

647
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: in Florida, Boston College obviously, Syracuse where my dad played bets.

648
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: When they started when I was fifteen sixteen, they didn't. Yeah,

649
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: and then I was seventeen and I'm starting to get

650
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: a name for myself playing for the national team. Their

651
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: scouts came out and you know, now they want me

652
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: to play for him. But I was like, I just

653
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: waved him off and I was like, no, I'm I

654
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do it. I actually actually committed to Buffalo.

655
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: The university admitted to Buffalo after my visit. I committed. Uh,

656
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: things would have been different if you went to you know,

657
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: coach Reggie. Coach was Reggie Witherspoon when I remember I

658
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: committed to him when I on the phone and I

659
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I'm gonna do this. And then that

660
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: night I was just like school basketball. And then I

661
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: got a call from a couple of Swedish teams that said,

662
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, we want you to stay here. We can

663
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: get you a couple grand get you a car, get

664
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: you an apartment, get feed you. All you have to

665
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: do is play basketball. And you're like, I'm down. I

666
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: slept on it. I woke up the next morning. I

667
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: called coach Reggie Witterspoon back and I was like sorry,

668
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: and what did he say? Oh, they were they were

669
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: devastated obviously. Uh, you know, but there's nothing they could do.

670
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I made my mind up real quick. Like

671
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: I said, school was not a priority for me. I

672
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: felt like after high school I was finished. Like I

673
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: got you, I understand, I was finished with school, trust me,

674
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: I get it. And then I graduated high school. Okay,

675
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: that's a fact I did it, did you. Yeah, I'm

676
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: not sure I actually did got through it, But like

677
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: I said, I had all basketball in my mind. Anyways,

678
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: I got a couple offers in Europe, Like, I got

679
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: some big teams in Europe calling me. Um, so me

680
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: and my dad was just let's jump on a plane

681
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: and see what they got. And you're an eighteen now,

682
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: Um that seen eighteen and then so then what happens

683
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: after high school? Um, it was my last year of

684
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: high school. And Real Madrid, obviously everybody knows Real Madrid,

685
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: one of the biggest clubs in Europe. Uh called me. Uh,

686
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: some Spanish agent got my dad's number and reached out

687
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: and they flew me down there and I practiced with

688
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: I think it was a junior team, like they're under

689
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: eighteen team. I did pretty good. I had a good

690
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: time with my dad down in Madrid. Flew us first class.

691
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: Me and my dad was like, this is this is cool.

692
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: They gave us a bag full of gear. We were

693
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: almost sold after that, but then we got home. Uh,

694
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: they sent us a five I think it was a

695
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: six year contract. So I'm eighteen at the time that

696
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: would have that would have given me. I would have

697
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: been twenty four when I would have been out of

698
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: my contract. Um, but we were still thinking about it.

699
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: We were still thinking about it, but it just didn't

700
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: make sense, like to sign a long contract like that,

701
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: and uh to move to Spain from being, you know,

702
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: from a small town like I'm from, to move straight

703
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: to Madrid and just locked me in for six years. Uh.

704
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: So my dad kinda talked to my mom and my

705
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: dad and they're like, I don't think you should do it.

706
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: So I decided to stay back home in Sweden and

707
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: check out the teams that that are in the Swedish League.

708
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 1: And uh I got an offer from every every team

709
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: in Sweden obviously, um, but I picked the best team.

710
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 1: They won, Like, they won the Swedish Championship. I think

711
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: six out of the last seven years or something like

712
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: crazy before you got there, before I had gotten there,

713
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: and then what happens? Uh, ship, I'm down I'm from

714
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: down south, like Gothamburg, down south of Sweden. This team

715
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: is up north. It's cold up there, like you know,

716
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: I've never even been up there before. Um, but it's

717
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: the best team in Sweden. They had the best players.

718
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: I knew all the players on their team, um, just

719
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: from from experience watching them on TV or you know,

720
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: reading about him and who's like the best player that

721
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: you can remember at that time, like that was the

722
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: best player in that league. His name was fred Raines. American,

723
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: he's American americanized. Uh yeah, he's Swedish now, I'd call

724
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: him Swedish now. He he moved from the States to

725
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: play in Sweden and then he stayed there, just like

726
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: my dad. And what's the level? What's the difference level

727
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: of competition at the highest level of Swedish compared to

728
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: the NBA. You can't, you can't compare it to the NBA.

729
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: You can you compare it to like the D League.

730
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: I compared to college college? Uh yeah, I don't know,

731
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: mid level college, maybe a little bit higher. I think

732
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: we would like I think when my year, when I

733
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: was there, I think we would beat most of the

734
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: college teams. I think we would be we had a

735
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: good team. We had a good team. Uh. And and

736
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: so you start playing and you start doing your thing. Yeah,

737
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: I mean I got up there, like, you know, nobody

738
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: really knew who I was. Um, but I got up

739
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: there right away, felt at home like I could I

740
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: could be And they kept a gym open for me

741
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: whenever I wanted. All I all I did was basketball.

742
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean it was dark up there. It's in the

743
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: winter too, you know, so it's like four seven of darkness.

744
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 1: That's real, seven of dark dark like night like that's

745
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: a real thing. Yeah, it's a real thing. Crazy. I'll

746
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning and nine o'clock going to

747
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: you know, going to get some shots up, and it's

748
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: you wake up to the darkness and like as if

749
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: you're nighttime. Yes. The whole year, yes, No, not the

750
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: whole year, half year, not too long, No, not long.

751
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: It's a few a month month or ship that's the

752
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean you might get four hours a day like

753
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: after you know what, for a while, that's not a

754
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: fun place to live. No, but summer it's all day seven.

755
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: That's weird too, It's very weird, Like I couldn't even sleep.

756
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: I had to have like black out the curtains and ship.

757
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: But I had a great time up there. I mean

758
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: we we won a lot of games. I got to

759
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: play like I think I played like five minutes a

760
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: game and as a rookie. I mean that's pretty unheard of.

761
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: So I was. I was in a good situation. I

762
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: had all veterans around me. Everybody was like thirty to

763
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: thirty five, and they played in the Swedish League for

764
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: a while, so they were kind of showing me the ropes.

765
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: We won the championship that year, I had a I

766
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: think I averaged like ten and six. But that's not

767
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: like incredible. How do you get from that to the NBA?

768
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, after that, um, I got a couple

769
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: of calls from some obviously Spain Germany after the first year. Yeah,

770
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: and they're watching you were there sitting scout for like

771
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: how are they even like, oh, who knows? I mean

772
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: they're watching Swedish basketball. They're checking it out in Europe

773
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: watch everything now because of guys like me and Porsingi's Dirk,

774
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: and like they don't want to miss a beat there

775
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: watching games in Denmark and Iceland and there there there,

776
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: their coaches are talking. They're like, oh, I got this

777
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: kid here and they want to further you. Right, Yes,

778
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: coaches talk. You know. Obviously in the finals, I remember

779
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: I had a pretty good game. I had a big

780
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: fourth quarter in the finals. Um. So it was just

781
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: after that, um, I decided to sign with an agent,

782
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: and that's you know, my agent at the time was like,

783
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to get you to a big team,

784
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: like all the big teams like kind of wanted me,

785
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: but you know, you're a nineteen year old Swedish kid.

786
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: You're not gonna come in and play twenty minutes a game.

787
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: So he was like, let's go to a smaller team

788
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: and then showcase what you can do and then you know,

789
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: we'll take the step to the league. And I'm like

790
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: this guy telling me I can get to the league,

791
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: like I can do it. So that kind of gave

792
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: me a little extra too, uh, to just believe in

793
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: myself because like a guy here, an agent, you know,

794
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like I said, I'm still a small kid

795
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: from Sweden. Are you even thinking you could play in

796
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: the NBA at this point or even nothing to compare

797
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: or is it just a dream? That's when where's your

798
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: head at with playing professional basketball like NBA basketball, I've

799
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: always like And then when I was in I remember

800
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: when I was in Sweden, I was playing and it

801
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: was a preseason and we were playing. Uh, there was

802
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: some Ukrainian team we were playing. I can't even remember

803
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: the name. Um, they had a couple of guys that

804
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: were former NBA players and in the preseason. Yeah, like

805
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: I said, I was nineteen, and I'm looking at the

806
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: guys when we're playing against I'm like, I'm fucking better

807
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: than these guys, like they played an NBA Like they

808
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: can do it, I can do it. So that's kind

809
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: of what got me started and triggered, I think, because

810
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: it's almost kind of good because you didn't watch it

811
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: all the time, you're sort of take on it is

812
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: different than somebody who watches it consistently and probably the

813
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: way you can even watch in Sweden today, Yeah, oh yeah,

814
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: you can watch it not with the internet. But like, yeah,

815
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: like I said, I didn't watch no NBA. So I'm

816
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: coming into if I'm coming into the game and playing

817
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: against these guys and they're like, oh yeah, they're former

818
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: NBA players, and I'm looking at him like he's not

819
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: even that good. I'm better than him. So that's what

820
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: kind of got me. And Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna

821
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: do this. Um that's cool. So, like I said, my

822
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: agent at the time said, let's go to a smaller team.

823
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: And my funny story, my teammate at the time, right now,

824
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: you touch azz Tabo Cephalosha. He just left Angelico Biella,

825
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: a small team in Italy in the first division in Italy,

826
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: and he just left to go to the Bulls. Okay,

827
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: so he he got drafted and Biella is looking for

828
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: a guy to replace him. I got you there, like, man,

829
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: we want you like you're gonna play for us. We

830
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: want you to do what Tabo did. So I kind

831
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: of got sold on that. I'm like, man, Tabbo did

832
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: it that way, I can do that too. So I

833
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: ended up signing there signed you know, ship, I think

834
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 1: I signed for like five thousand euros a month, which

835
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: is what what is that? Six grand a month? And

836
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I'm living a life. I mean, I

837
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: touched down in Italy not knowing what I'm getting myself into.

838
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 1: Northern part. So now you've become a profound in Italy,

839
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: young guy, your professional basketball player at a high level

840
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: in Italy and it obviously Italy is known for their soccer,

841
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: but they have their their what are their professional games? Like? Oh,

842
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: it's it was like night and day compared to what

843
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: I was used to in Sweden. I mean we like

844
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: I said, I I remember landing in Italy not knowing

845
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: what I was getting myself into. It's like a Thursday night.

846
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: I land in Milan and I have a guy standing

847
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: with a sign saying my name on Therebeco Jerebko. Fuck

848
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm reading and he's like just points at you know,

849
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: I point at him and he points at me. And

850
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: he doesn't speak a word of English, and you you

851
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: don't speak a word of Italian, not a word of Italian. Uh.

852
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: He drives me like an hour and a half through

853
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: the mountains into this little town in Italy. He gives

854
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: me an envelope by looking at it and it's like

855
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: it's five grand in in euros. I don't know whoa

856
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: He's like take it. I'm like okay. And then he

857
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: gives me keys and there's a car keys to an

858
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: apartment in in the phone, so and that's it and

859
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: he just drops me off, not a word. So I

860
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: go into the apartment and the phone called phone rings

861
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: and it's uh, the team manager for the team. So

862
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: he is like the only guy who speaks English there.

863
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: So he's like, yeah, Jonas, welcome to Biella. You know

864
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: we got practice on Monday and it's Thursday night. Uh,

865
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: you got some money, Uh you got a car, make

866
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: yourself at home. I'll see you in the gym on Monday.

867
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: And you know where you are. I have no fucking idea.

868
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: That's that's like a movie. Yeah, So you know, I

869
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: just I started walking like in blocks around you know,

870
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: around my apartment. You're afraid, like you're gonna get lost,

871
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: the kidnapping, you know where they're I wasn't really worried

872
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: about that. It just kind of seemed like a nice

873
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: little town. But obviously I was a little worried. I

874
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: mean I didn't I didn't go out right at night,

875
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: and you didn't have like, oh cool up, Tim, he's here,

876
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: Jeff's here, and it was all Gabriella. The team manager,

877
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: he was like, you got my number, call me if

878
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: there's anything, and you you like like just going into

879
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: cafes and eating like and and and there's the food ridiculous.

880
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it was pretty ridiculous. I mean pizza pasta

881
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: every day. So I just started walking around my apartment,

882
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: just walking out a little bit out, you know, checking

883
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: checking the spots, found myself a couple of restaurants, and

884
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: then just grinded it out to Monday watching the Italian

885
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: TV all dubbed in in in Italian. But um, yeah

886
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: it was. It was a great time. And that uh

887
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: that little town. And then how do we get to

888
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: the NBA from there? Um yeah, I mean it'll it's

889
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: Italian basketball is good and at the time, I mean

890
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: they've had some economical problems now too. I don't think

891
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: the money is at the same as it with what

892
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: it used to be, so they can't attract the same

893
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: kind of players. Um, but the fans are there, I

894
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: mean they love basketball. Is like a soccer atmosphere. Yeah,

895
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: it was loud, It's like party, It's like colleges. Right. Yeah.

896
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 1: You know A funny story is that Monday we had practice.

897
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: That Wednesday we had a game and guess who we play?

898
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: Stanford with the with the Lopez twins that's crazy. In

899
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: a small little gym, and like the outskirts in Italy

900
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: like a scrimmage game. Scrimmage game like we have never

901
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: played before. We had, you know, four Americans former NBA players, UM,

902
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: Troy Bell from Boston College, b J. Elder, Brandon Hunter

903
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: and Kevin Pinkney. So we had three guys with NBA experience. Um.

904
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: And you know we played against the Lopez Twins and

905
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: they had uh Landry Fields. Yeah, and we crushed them.

906
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: Did you really crushed them? And you can remember never

907
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: practice before? I mean you just had more talent than

908
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: that team. Yeah. I mean it was just like but

909
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: when you see a kid with them, but when you

910
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: see these giant Lopez when these two seven foot monsters. Yeah,

911
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: but it was you know, it was college, it was

912
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 1: early and they were on a trip. But we still

913
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: I remember, we just we just crushed them. That's funny.

914
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: Do they remember that now because they're I don't know

915
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: if they remember it. I don't know if I always

916
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: see Robin and Brooken, but I never asked him about it.

917
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: You should, you should say next time you like drain

918
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: of three and you're on the way back, she'd be like,

919
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: remember that game. Remember that game? That would be a

920
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 1: good thing, like you know, like or the free throw line.

921
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: Remember that game twelve years ago. I mean I'm sure,

922
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure they remember it because you know, like you're

923
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: like we were in Italy. That's funny. Yeah, but like

924
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: you said, that's soccer atmosphere. Fans dance all games, singing, singing.

925
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a small town too, so every

926
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: time we won, I mean, the whole city was behind us.

927
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: Like free food, you know, any any time we'll go

928
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: to a restaurant after we win, we'll get free food

929
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: whatever we want. Now you're a married man. Now, now

930
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: I am a married man. So you're in Italy, like now,

931
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: Swedish is notorious for beautiful women. Yes, that's what you hear.

932
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: Apparently that's what that's what you hear. Now would you

933
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: can say Sweden Italian women like your nineteen you're like,

934
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: holy sh it? Or you just like I need to

935
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: go into and make a hundred free throws. Um. I mean,

936
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: like I said, MBA was my was like after I

937
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: played in Sweden at first, but you win against it

938
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: is in a visual sense, like is it the more

939
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: beautiful woman in Sweden? Sweden, there is the reality of

940
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: the Swedish woman. That's a real thing. Yes, it's blonde,

941
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: blue eyes, that's the the generic or is that real?

942
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean it's blond like everybody six nine. But Sweden,

943
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Sweden's got everything right, Yeah, we got all

944
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: kinds of different looking girls. Okay Swedish, Yeah, it's by

945
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: far the best. So Swedish women, you would say most

946
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: beautiful in the world. Yes, okay, no question, Okay, no problem,

947
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: and then okay, so then then still I want to

948
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: know how do we go from this to the NBA.

949
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: I mean I grinded. I grinded in Italy. I mean

950
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: we we we played one game a week Sundays, and

951
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 1: we practice two times Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, one

952
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: practice Saturday, and then you have the game Sunday two

953
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: days two a days hard like nine to twelve, six

954
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: to nine. Like like the Americans obviously coming from college,

955
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: they're used to that ship, but they're like, fun, funk this.

956
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: I'm I don't want to do this, but I had

957
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: to do it for no games. I mean one time

958
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: a week and you're playing gets the same guys. Yeah,

959
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: and if we win Sunday. We'll get day off Monday,

960
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: but if we lose, get the fucking practice Monday all

961
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: over again. And I remember my first year, we had

962
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: a stretch of eleven games lost in a row. So

963
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: that's that's two and a half months of losing. So

964
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: you're playing basketball NonStop, NonStop. Are you enjoying it or

965
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: is it like this is I love basketball, but this

966
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: is a little bit much. I enjoyed it, man, I

967
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: loved it. I loved it like I was. I was

968
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: in the gyms in the morning, Like I said, nine

969
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: to twelve, I had my routine. I'll go to the

970
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: same restaurant, have lunch with with my teammates, go to sleep,

971
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: get back to the gym, and grind it out. I mean, uh,

972
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: this could be a movie. This could be like this

973
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: could be like a movie. He could be like lost

974
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: in translation, like Swedish basketball. All right, so they go ahead,

975
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: So I want to know, how do we get to

976
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 1: the NBA? Yeah? After my first year, I was like, okay,

977
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready to I want to get to

978
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: the league. And what years this? Um? Yeah, yeah, eight,

979
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: nine and and and at this point are you able

980
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: to watch more NBA basketball. Yeah, I started to a

981
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: little bit because because of my American teammates, a lot

982
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: of them were watching it. We were getting some on

983
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 1: the Italian TV, were showing on Sky, so I started

984
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: watching it more and more. We had I remember my

985
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: GM at the time, Dennis Lindsay, I was playing against

986
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: Gallinari the time, so we had a lot of NBA

987
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 1: scouts coming to to our games. Pop came to a game.

988
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 1: Uh did you know who he was? Of course? Okay, yeah, okay.

989
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: At that time, you know, you knew there's NBA scouts. Go,

990
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm playing Collinary today, there's gonna be NBA scouts for him.

991
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: I'm taking this show. And he was okay. So so

992
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: he was like the hot shift over there. Yeah, I

993
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: mean he was what pick was was, go, I don't

994
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: remember what pickup he was, but he was. He was

995
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: a top pick. So you know, they had scouts and

996
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: coming for all his games. So I knew when we

997
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: were playing Milan that they were gonna be scouts there. So, um,

998
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: I kind of tried to do my thing, and after

999
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: my first year, I had a decent year. Maybe I

1000
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: averaged nine and six, I don't know, but Italian League

1001
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: that's I mean that's pretty good for for a twenty

1002
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: year old kid. So I was like, I told my agent,

1003
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: I want to do this. I want to I want

1004
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: to get to the league. Um. San Antonio said they

1005
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: would pick me, but they wanted to send me back

1006
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: to to Europe for a year. I didn't want to

1007
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: do that. So my agent was like, let's hold off

1008
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: one play one more year in Italy, then then we're going.

1009
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: So I mean he I trust him, you know, going

1010
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: going there. And I just said, okay, whatever you think

1011
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: is gonna gonna gonna get me to the league. So

1012
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: I ended up going and going back to Biella for

1013
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: another season. Um. And then that season we had a

1014
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: great year, Like we went to uh we went to

1015
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: the Italian playoffs. We ended up beating the number two

1016
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: ranked team, which was Rome, which was Brandon Jennings team

1017
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: oh Ship at the time. So he was over there

1018
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: for his little he's when he's a rookie. I mean

1019
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: he's he's out of college. I mean, I mean he

1020
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: skipped college, high school straight to Rome. And I mean

1021
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: they had guys, they had a guy making more money

1022
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: than our whole team together. We were a small town team.

1023
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: Nobody thought we were gonna beat these guys, and we

1024
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: took at the game five and we beat there as

1025
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: in Rome? And what is it like when you're a

1026
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: professional basketball you're twenty? I mean I've been to Rome,

1027
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: but like, what is your experience in room? Are you

1028
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: having a fucking ball like you Like, I'm playing professional basketball,

1029
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm twenty, I'm in Rome. We're like, like, what do

1030
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: you remember about that? Like being I remember the long

1031
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: ass bus rides we had to get there. I mean

1032
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: it was like a twelve hour bus. They don't fly you,

1033
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean we flew a couple, but like you have

1034
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: to fly from your city from games in between games? Yeah,

1035
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: we uh, we took the bus and it's a ten

1036
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: twelve hour bus ride. And and the Rome team, Brandon

1037
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: Jennings is not taking the bus now, they're not taking

1038
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: the bus. Oh so you guys are like, we want

1039
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: to beat these fucking fancy Roman assholes. Yeah, I mean,

1040
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: and we love. The funny thing is like we go

1041
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: to Rome game one, we lose by twenty, we go home,

1042
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: we win by one. We go to Rome, we lose

1043
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: by twenty five, We go home, We win in overtime

1044
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: on the last crazy shot and then we go to

1045
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: fucking Rome and we beat him by like five, and

1046
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: all the time, you guys are on a bus, so

1047
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: as your head like the fucking romansholes. That was probably

1048
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: like one of the biggest wins I've had in my career.

1049
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: Like I went, our whole team went nuts. I don't

1050
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: know if you remember Bodhi Roga. Yeah, he's like a

1051
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: European legend. He was a GM Rome at the time.

1052
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: He was trying to get into a locker room and

1053
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: fight some of our guys, and I thought we were

1054
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: disrespectful after the game, but like it was like there

1055
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: were so many emotions after that game, Like I mean,

1056
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: it was it was crazy. That's I think that's the

1057
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: second act of our movie. Go ahead, Like yeah, we

1058
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: we roll up in our bus back to our time

1059
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: and people are dancing in the streets and ship like

1060
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: it was that kind of you. So then we ended

1061
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: up playing Milan in the in the playoffs, took them

1062
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: the game five, lost on the last shot. We could

1063
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: have went. We should have went to the finals there.

1064
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: I went straight from there. Then that's when I'm getting

1065
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: ready for NBA. After that, the NBA draft, So you

1066
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: go straight from there were straight from after the European Comma.

1067
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: It's called the Eurocamp, but it's sanctioned by the NBA.

1068
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: It's action by good question. Every every NBA scout you

1069
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: can think of is there, GMS, whatever it is, They're

1070
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: all there. And uh it started like three days before

1071
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: I could even get there because of the Italian playoffs.

1072
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: So all I could do was I went. I took

1073
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: a flight right after we lost to Treviso where the

1074
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: camp was, and the guys was like, yeah, you gotta

1075
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: be tired after the playoffs, you know, if you don't

1076
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: want to do anything, you just want to do the

1077
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: measurements and ship like that. I was like, funk that,

1078
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: I want to play a game. So I ended up

1079
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: playing one game and I was like I had like

1080
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: sixteen points and like fifteen minutes I didn't miss a shot.

1081
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: So it was like the best show phase I could have.

1082
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: And then I was like, okay, I shut it down now,

1083
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: and then UH flew right from there. I flew to

1084
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: the States. I had like ship, I think I had

1085
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: seven workouts in nine days for NBA teams. Okay, so

1086
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: what stuck out about these those workouts? Like who was there?

1087
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: Like are you seeing like pros and you know that

1088
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: was Popovitch or Phil Jackson, whoever? Like, who are you

1089
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: working out in front? I went to Spurs, I worked

1090
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: out for him. I worked out for Detroit, UM, Minnesota, Cleveland, UM.

1091
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: I mean there was so many workouts, Charlotte. There are

1092
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: so many workouts that I can't even like remember. I

1093
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: was so like I went straight from Italy playoffs to Treviso,

1094
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: straight there, and then it was the NBA and then

1095
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: the NBA draft was coming up, and I had like

1096
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: a workout the day before the draft, so I just

1097
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,919
Speaker 1: flew my whole family in from Sweden to New York.

1098
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew I wasn't gonna be I thought

1099
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,959
Speaker 1: I thought I should have been first rounded. But don't

1100
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: we you know, it's it's all, It's what it is.

1101
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: Did they tell you, like, do you have a sense

1102
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: of like to what years is draft? Uh? Oh? Nine? Ten?

1103
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: So who went first in year? Draft? Uh? It was Blake?

1104
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: Oh car right, you're asking, well, I pride myself. Listen,

1105
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: it's okay. The Iron Report, Seal Pokast, we don't fact

1106
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: chat has seemed to be was too Brandon, Johnny Flynn,

1107
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: Steph Curry. I mean I had a good draft James

1108
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: Harden And now are are you familiar with any of

1109
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: those guys? Yeah, I mean we yeah, we were in

1110
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: the same draft. No, no, no, I'm saying at the time,

1111
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: like you're you're not like, oh this isn't because you're

1112
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: in Europe. No, I was not at all. So you're

1113
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: not like, oh, that's Blaker from that's Steph Curry, that's

1114
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: Del curR, like these are just other guys you're because

1115
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: you're sort of out of the loop. That is an

1116
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: interesting thing. Yeah. I remember I had a workout in

1117
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: Phoenix and it was with Brandon Jennings. It was James Johnson,

1118
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: Earl Clark, a couple other guys, and they were all,

1119
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: you know, Austin Day and they were all going to

1120
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: go top fifteen. And you know, I didn't like, I

1121
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: didn't know who the guys were. I just played my game.

1122
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: I thought I had a great workout. I didn't think

1123
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: that any of those guys were had a better workout

1124
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: than me. But obviously all of those guys ended up going,

1125
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, top fifteen. Um, and that draft night, like

1126
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: I said, I flew my whole family and from Sweden

1127
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: family drove up from Buffalo. We were sitting in the

1128
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: stands Buffalo. Yeah. Yeah, they grinded the drive out, of course,

1129
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: and because maybe they fucking walked. You don't know if

1130
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: they didn't, maybe didn't. Buffalo people are tough, man, Yeah,

1131
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: they're tough. They're tough. We uh, we sat in the

1132
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: stands with my agent, and uh, we knew there was

1133
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: team's interested. We knew I was gonna get picked, but

1134
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: we didn't know if it was gonna be late first,

1135
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: it was gonna be early, second, late second, who knows.

1136
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: So we're sitting there waiting. You know, it goes to

1137
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: like we thought Minnesota might pick me a twenty eight

1138
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: and then I can't remember who they picked, but they

1139
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: picked somebody. So after twenty eight, my agents started, you know,

1140
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: getting on his phone and uh, he tells me, he's like,

1141
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: Charlotte got a guaranteed two year contract for you. At forty.

1142
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: They were like, they want you. You got a guaranteed contract.

1143
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: Hopefully you dropped to forty. So I was like, don't

1144
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: pay me, don't pay me. I'm sitting there every pick

1145
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: and then because you want Charlotte to get you, Yeah,

1146
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 1: because I got a guaranteed contract. Like if your second round,

1147
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: you're not guaranteed anything. I got you. They guaranteed they

1148
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: they were familiar with you. Uh and I didn't even

1149
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: work out for them, okay, but they passed the tapes

1150
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: around whatever. And then at thirty seven, I think my

1151
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: my agent gets a call and he's like, Detroit's gonna

1152
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: pick you at thirty nine. I'm like, fuck, right before

1153
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, I had a guaranteed contract. And at thirty nine,

1154
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: obviously Detroit picked me, and it was it was I mean,

1155
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: it was great and my ended up great, but at

1156
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 1: the time I was so fucking pissed. I don't know

1157
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: if seen the video and I go up there and

1158
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: shake his hand. All I was thinking, and this is

1159
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: still David Stern right, uh no, because second round was silver.

1160
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: He took second round there, so it was me and

1161
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: Silver run up there, and I would just remember him

1162
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: like fun man, one more pick. I should have had

1163
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: a guaranteed contract, but I just had to get back

1164
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: to the grind and and you know, work hard and

1165
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: training camp and earned earned myself a guaranteed contract. And

1166
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: who's the coach that at the time, John Custon, okay,

1167
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: and who who's on the wallace Tay Shawn friends, Rip Hamilton's,

1168
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: Chucky Atkins, I mean, Chris Wilcox. We had a lot

1169
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 1: of veteran guys and Austin Day was a number fifteen pick.

1170
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: I think Duan Summers was second round with me. Uh so,

1171
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean they had a veteran team, Rodney Stuckey, um

1172
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: just a few, and then Ben Gordon, Charlie Villanueva signed

1173
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: signed at the same time. So we all got in

1174
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: to Detroit at the same time. And and I just,

1175
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: you know, I knew. I I didn't have anything, you know,

1176
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: guaranteed for me. I had to work myself into getting

1177
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: a guaranteed contract. And uh, I just like I just

1178
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: came in there. I mean, I obviously I knew since

1179
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: Detroit had just won the championship with Ben and Rip

1180
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: and Tashawn and they were, like, you know, they were

1181
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: I looked up to those guys. I played him in

1182
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: the video games. But I've always had the mindset like

1183
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't care who I'm playing against, Like I'm just

1184
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: gonna play my game. I'm gonna grind, I'm gonna hustle,

1185
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rebound, I'm gonna play defense. I'm gonna do

1186
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: whatever it takes, and uh that's what I did. Uh.

1187
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you've seen the first

1188
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: preseason game I played for Detroit, I got thrown out

1189
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: of the game. No you didn't, what happened? Um I didn't.

1190
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: That was the first preseason game. We played the Miami

1191
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: Heat in Detroit, and in the fourth quarter I got

1192
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: to come in and Jamal mcglore place. He's a dirty player.

1193
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: He played hard. I respect him, but you know he

1194
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: thought he could just mess with the rookie, I guess,

1195
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: and just kind of held me on a rebound and

1196
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: kind of brought me down to the floor. And I

1197
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:01,959
Speaker 1: remember just like fucking punching him right over the head

1198
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: and we both got thrown out. So I was I

1199
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: got suspended for my first regular season NBA. That's all.

1200
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: But But so, but are your teammates liked that? Must

1201
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: like they must be like, yeah, I mean, the Detroit

1202
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: crowd was going nuts. I mean I was. I remember,

1203
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, our security guards like, yeah, you got thrown out,

1204
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 1: let's go, and you know the fans were standing up nuts.

1205
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: So I was ship, hopefully this doesn't hurt me, right, right,

1206
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: This is you're in Detroit. They like that. And then

1207
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 1: so what is your first memory of like NBA moment, like,

1208
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: oh shoot, I'm on the court with whoever? Yes, since

1209
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: I I mean, I was suspended my first game, so

1210
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 1: I was We we went to Memphis for the first

1211
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 1: regular season game and I couldn't even be in the gym,

1212
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: so I was at the hotel. I'm like, I'm gonna

1213
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: go to t g I Fridays next door and watch

1214
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: the game on TV. So I was sitting in the

1215
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 1: bar t J at Fridays watching the first game and

1216
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: then just took a cab to uh to the plane

1217
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: and meet him after the game. Um, I think there

1218
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 1: was like two games I got d MPs and then

1219
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: we went to Milwaukee and that's when I got my

1220
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: first minutes. And that's when I was like, damn, I

1221
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: made it. You know, I played. I don't even know

1222
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: how much I played or anything, but I just remember

1223
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 1: that was my first real minutes. But when you when

1224
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: you coach, because all right, Jonas, I was nervous. That's real, right,

1225
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: Like I think I'm gonna have a dream that you're like,

1226
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: I have basketball the are you like, oh ship, Yeah,

1227
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: I wish I could remember like all those feelings I had,

1228
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 1: but I was just fucking nervous. I was nervous as hell.

1229
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ship, he just called my name.

1230
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: You run up there. You take off your sweat and

1231
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: make sure. I always make sure I got the jersey,

1232
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: I got my shorts on. Okay, I'm good, I'm ready

1233
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: to go. But it was like a surreal feeling, you know,

1234
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: coming coming from where I'm from, like all the way

1235
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: to the NBA. It's uh, you know, it's a it's

1236
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: an accomplishment, but like I could never have imagined it

1237
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 1: growing up, So it was pretty crazy. And then and

1238
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,799
Speaker 1: when you're on the court, like who's the first person?

1239
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 1: Like when you're playing against like you know you're that

1240
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: was the game of wal Kobe. When I first played

1241
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: Kobe was like tell me that. It was just like

1242
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, you always looked up to a guy like

1243
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: that who just determination and winning and just Kobe Bryant.

1244
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 1: I mean everybody knows that Kobe Bryant. Is is he

1245
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: looking at you? Like who the fund is this guy? Yeah?

1246
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 1: I think he was because I remember, I remember you

1247
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: can probably see footage. I think they got some footage

1248
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: of that, like the first game we played him, he uh,

1249
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 1: I think he was guarding me. I was playing at

1250
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: three at the time, and I got the ball at

1251
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: the three and he's all the way in the three

1252
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: second area like just looking at me, like just standing there,

1253
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 1: and I just shot it and I made it. So

1254
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: he started playing defense, and that's when I was like, Okay,

1255
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, maybe this kid can play. Maybe I

1256
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,560
Speaker 1: gotta play some defense. Like he totally just respected me

1257
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: at first, like just stood in the paint and knocked

1258
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,879
Speaker 1: down at three. And then he started playing some defense.

1259
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: And uh. I remember after the game, like I just

1260
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, went and shook the hands like you always

1261
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: do sometimes with the with the people you play, and

1262
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: he he gave me a little encouragement and just said

1263
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 1: keep working hard, you know. And that's when I first

1264
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: like realized, damn, this is surreal, Like I really made it.

1265
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: You know, that's dope. What other players, like, did you

1266
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,600
Speaker 1: like you played against? I mean, Dirk is still in

1267
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: the league now. He's like iconic, you know, he's hobbling through.

1268
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 1: I love Dirk. I mean, how could you not, especially

1269
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: that he's still I mean, like Tim Duncan, because one

1270
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: thing I know from talking to you guys, uh, whether

1271
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 1: it's football or basketball, Like you know that I'm speaking athletes.

1272
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: You guys don't like to acknowledge or give love. Like

1273
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: you could talk about Kobe now, but if if he

1274
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: was still playing, you wouldn't say because you don't give

1275
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: that thing. So are the guys that already left the dirt?

1276
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: Dirk you can give because he's Dirk, But like, who

1277
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: are the other players that not in the league where

1278
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 1: you're like, oh shit, like those old ship Motor that

1279
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: you were just so impressed with. You're in fucking Sweden.

1280
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: In the town it's like smaller than like a small

1281
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: town in Oklahoma. But what helped me was I got

1282
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: to Detroit and Detroit just won the championship. I had

1283
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: Ben Wallace, I had Rip Hamilton, had tay Shaw Prince

1284
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 1: and they were all my teammates. And what are those

1285
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: guys like great teammates, man, great friends. Ben was like,

1286
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: he's like maybe the best teammate I ever had. He

1287
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: just fucking works hard. Man. He's even at that point,

1288
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: even at that point he was the first one in

1289
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 1: the gym. He showed me the way, like some of

1290
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: the ship that was going on when I was in

1291
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: Detroit with all the coaching changes that was going on,

1292
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: Like he was just like he always told me, like,

1293
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: just stay in the gym, work hard. This is not

1294
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 1: the real NBA that you're seeing right now. Just fucking

1295
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 1: stay in your lane. And I just remember, like I

1296
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: was always trying to be the first one in the

1297
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: fucking gym, but I could never be the first one

1298
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: in the gym because Ben was always earliest, Like he

1299
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 1: was always in the weight room, and I was always second,

1300
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:10,440
Speaker 1: almost like I'm always second. Like it was almost frustrating

1301
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: because he was always there that early getting work in.

1302
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,799
Speaker 1: And um, that's really what what showed me the way,

1303
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: Like what really got me like to work is like

1304
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: I wanted to work as hard as him like that

1305
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: he always always put the work in. What about rip

1306
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: I mean he was so good man for so long,

1307
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: mask not on. Man, it's hard to even recognize him

1308
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: with the mask off. Now, Like I see him doing broadcast,

1309
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's for Like he should do the

1310
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: broadcast with the fucking mask. Yeah. Rips of pro Man,

1311
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: Rips of pro and and one thing I learned from

1312
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 1: Rib was to take care of your body because he

1313
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: was always, you know, very cautious, and so was Tashaun

1314
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: about what they ate and what they did with their bodies,

1315
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: like stretching and all that kind of ship. And I

1316
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: was like, ship, they've been doing this for a long time.

1317
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: I had better do what they did. So that's cool. Yeah,

1318
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: so are you still on that like eat? Well, yeah,

1319
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: I've been like from my rookie year, from when I've

1320
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: seen what these guys were doing until now, like I'm

1321
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: trying to do what they did, and uh yeah, you know,

1322
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: it's it's important. It's more important than you think. Like

1323
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: when you're young and your n one, you don't really

1324
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: care what you put in your thirty I'm forty seven, okay,

1325
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 1: I know you're thirty years old. You could see you're

1326
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 1: playing basketball. It's like what what what don't you eat? Yeah? Yeah,

1327
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: ice cream Sunday on the plane? Yeah I could. I

1328
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: couldn't still do that ship, but I try not to.

1329
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, they really showed me the way

1330
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: those guys are a hard hardcore. Yeah they're hardcore, but

1331
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 1: like and like I said, they kind of stopped me

1332
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: from being star struck two because I was already started

1333
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 1: struggling in training camp like them and them, Yeah, like

1334
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: they're normal people too. But when you come into the

1335
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: league and your teammates it's Tayshawn Prince, Rip Hampton and

1336
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: Ben Wallace, Like, I don't care if I'm playing against

1337
01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: fucking Baron Davis and Kobe and Lebron and all those guys.

1338
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: My I got my teammates backing me up like that,

1339
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: So that that's really what what got me just fucking

1340
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 1: concentrated on basketball. I got I like that. Okay, I'm

1341
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: gonna ask you some other names. Um, Baron Davis, he

1342
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: was still doing his thing. How good was he? I mean,

1343
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 1: he's he was good. Man, hard to stop, just fucking score.

1344
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: I mean, what can you say? I mean that man

1345
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: can play. Who would you say is the toughest person

1346
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: you've had to guard in your career? And not talking

1347
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: about Lebron because I was about to say Lebron, Well

1348
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,839
Speaker 1: that stay obvious. Kobe, Kobe, Kobe. I mean he has

1349
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: like shot fakes, the fakes, like the jab steps. I

1350
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: mean you could not you can't stop it, Like you

1351
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: just get He'll get whatever shot he wants and you're

1352
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: just trying to just hopefully he stay and just keep

1353
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 1: a hand in his face and hopefully you can stop

1354
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: him from seeing the rim. But he's he's by far

1355
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: the the most skilled scorer I've ever tried to guard.

1356
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: Tried to guard that because nobody can guard that man.

1357
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan obviously, you know he's more in the block.

1358
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: How good is Tim Duncan? Yeah, I you know, Tim's

1359
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: a little bit bigger than me, so I never really

1360
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 1: got to guard him unless it was on a switch

1361
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: or something. But talking to Ben Wallace and Ship like,

1362
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: I mean that that that bank jumper, I mean, how

1363
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: are you from? You know, he's seven foot Like, how

1364
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: are you? How are you supposed to stop it? And

1365
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: he makes it look so easy. And then when like

1366
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 1: people like, oh you know he's doing this street, I

1367
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 1: feel like making bank shots is harder, but somehow he

1368
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: makes it look like it's a layou it's a layout.

1369
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he was an unbelievable player, insane with

1370
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 1: Mellow when he was he was going strong, I mean,

1371
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: Melo was. He's like a taller Kobe. He had a

1372
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: similar kind of all the footwork like jab steps that. Yeah, yeah,

1373
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 1: he's you know the thing about Mellow For me, it's

1374
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: like I don't know. His career is so weird because

1375
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: the Denver and then the New York and then you know,

1376
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: you know, and then now he's an okay see but

1377
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,600
Speaker 1: like when you say what you want. I never was

1378
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: like against him as a New York fan because I

1379
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: was like, you know, when this guy gets going, this

1380
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: fucking thing of beauty, like he could do the whole outside, inside,

1381
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: back to the basket. You know, he could do the

1382
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 1: whole offensive. Arsenal biggest ship talker in the NBA today

1383
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: and today is the art of ship talking the NBA gun,

1384
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: Are you guys not talking as much a little bit?

1385
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: I get triggered by people talking ship to me. Then

1386
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: I talked ship back. I'm usually not the one to

1387
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 1: start it. I don't know why I've always kept but

1388
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 1: like in the NBA nowadays, like cameras catch everything, man,

1389
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: so you have to be aware of you have to

1390
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 1: be aware, like you can't do it overtly. It's got

1391
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 1: to be like a whisper. You imagine if they had

1392
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: the same kind of cameras they got now ten years ago,

1393
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: and you know we didn't. We didn't get fined for

1394
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: for saying it. I got you so so You guys

1395
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: are very aware of the cameras. So you have to

1396
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: be aware otherwise you're gonna lose a lot of money.

1397
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: That's interesting. You have to be That is very interesting

1398
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: because and you know, and if it missed it during

1399
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 1: the broadcast, they'll catch it on Instagram and then the

1400
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: Instagram will go back to the NBA. Viral viral. I mean,

1401
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: you wake up in the Instagram is ruining the ship

1402
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: talking in the NBA. That's a good point. You wake

1403
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: up in the morning and it will be it will

1404
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: be viral. Like like if you say something stut I

1405
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: mean you could only imagine the ship that was said

1406
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 1: like a two years ago that wasn't caught on camera.

1407
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: That's very interesting because, like I guess said, if if

1408
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: it misses during the broadcast, it's gonna get caught up somewhere.

1409
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna pick it up. Like you got people you

1410
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 1: know replaying the games. Some people are probably replaying the

1411
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 1: games just defined ship. And and so so you guys

1412
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 1: are aware of that. You have, like I said, you

1413
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 1: have to be aware of that. When you were in Boston.

1414
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: You're with the Utah Jazz. Now the finals, the playoffs.

1415
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,759
Speaker 1: Last year, Man I was rude. I'm a New Yorker.

1416
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: You understand the politics of a New Yorker rooting for

1417
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: the Celtics. You understand that not really okay, okay, I

1418
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:12,879
Speaker 1: hate the fucking Celtics growing up, Larry Bird, fucking Robert Parish,

1419
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: fucking GM, Danny Ainge, the whole bunch of them, Bill Fitch,

1420
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 1: Bill Russell's over at rated. I can tell you all

1421
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: this stuff. So for me to be screaming at the

1422
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: TV and like, beat these motherfucker's and I was public

1423
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: about it, beat these motherfucker's, Brad Stevens and that Celtics team,

1424
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 1: and you had Isaiah lash Yet how much of a

1425
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: of a ride was that that? I mean just watching

1426
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: Isaiah that Grahamy's This is like I wrote a chapter

1427
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: about muggsy bogues, like Isaiah Thomas was like when you're

1428
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: like almost midget size, short person. I mean, how Isaiah

1429
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: Thomas last year when he was rock and rolling, how

1430
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: good is he? It's unbelievable man, unbelievable player, unbelievable will

1431
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 1: and just the skill set and he just uses it

1432
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: to the fullest. Man. He's a score were And like

1433
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: the thing was with our team. We all bought into it,

1434
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:08,799
Speaker 1: like we knew what he did well, Like he scores

1435
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: the ball, we don't care if he fucking takes twenty

1436
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 1: shots in a row and misses them all, Like we

1437
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 1: know he can fucking score the ball for us, Like

1438
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 1: let's get him to fucking score the ball. And he did,

1439
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, we had a real good like just

1440
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: camaraderie and the team and we just had good guys

1441
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 1: just all buying into trying to win that That series

1442
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 1: got chippy. I mean it was like as close to

1443
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: old school basketball. Like how intensely was that was? That series?

1444
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: Like you remember, it was intense. I feel like we

1445
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: fucking wanted that first game, Like we wanted one of

1446
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: those two games at home, and I feel like we

1447
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 1: could have had the first one. I feel like we

1448
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: didn't play as good as we could have. Uh So

1449
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 1: kind of sucks, you know, looking back at it now,

1450
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 1: But obviously Cleveland was the better team. They beat us,

1451
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: you know every year, not the second year, but they

1452
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: beat us the first year. Uh you know, it felt

1453
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,759
Speaker 1: good obviously to get that win, but it doesn't matter

1454
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: in the long run. But I feel like we we

1455
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: had the tools to beat a team like that. But

1456
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: Lebron James, he's a great player. He's a great player.

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Speaker 1: There's no denying it. When you Brad Stevens is like

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01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 1: he seems like a basketball savant, you know, his career butler,

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01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: and he comes to the Celtics, he turns in. Look

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Speaker 1: what is Brad Stevens even saying, like the mentality to

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Speaker 1: stop Lebron James? Is it team or is it just

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01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: don't let him in a triple double? Is it? Is

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01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 1: he more dangerous passing the ball? Like, what is the

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01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 1: sort of you're not stopping him? Yeah, he can't stop

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01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: the guy. I mean, he's gonna get his stats. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know you can. You can do it in different ways.

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01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: You can either Okay, let him get his points and

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01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 1: let him, let him score as much as he can

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01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: and take away all the other guys. But you know

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01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna find a way. He's gonna find a way.

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01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 1: He's that good of a player that he's gonna find

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01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: a way to get his teammates involved. Um. I mean

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01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: it's it's tough. You've seen it. I mean we see it.

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01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: We see it in the league every every every game almost.

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01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: I know, I never seen anything like it is consistent.

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01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: The fact that he's doing it this year, it's I

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01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't know what's going on. I've

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01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: or fifteenth year that it just feels like it's still

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01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: the eighth year. Like there's not like, oh, we're starting

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01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: to see a decline. It's nah. Whatever he's doing with

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01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: his body, I need to ask, because I mean, he's

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01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 1: he's taking care of himself and he's good fortune, right,

1483
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: good fortune. You gotta be lucky, you know what injuries

1484
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: and all that, you gotta be lucky. And obviously he's

1485
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 1: he's doing doing a lot of things right, and and

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01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 1: he's one of the greatest to play that played the game.

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01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: And you know, there's no denying it. Utah Jazz, you

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01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: got Rubio, you got Donovan Mitchell. You've got a good

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01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 1: group of guys. You guys are like, you know, yeah,

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01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: we got a lot of unselfish guys that that that

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01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,799
Speaker 1: knows how to play the game of basketball, and coaches

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01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: really you know, putting in a system for us that

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01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,799
Speaker 1: that can really move the ball and use our strengths.

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01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: So obviously it's gonna take some time. We only play

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01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 1: together for what is it, three months, so it's gonna

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01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: take some time. And then we got we got some

1497
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: work to do, but we got the tools, and let's

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01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 1: see it in practice. I feel it, like just the

1499
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: camaraderie and the team, Uh, the way we play, like

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01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: we're so up and down right now. We got to

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01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 1: be more consistent. But you know it comes with time.

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01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: Like like I said, we only played together for three months. So, um,

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01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: you know Ricky with point guard. You know you got

1504
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 1: Rudy in there to all the shots. You've got Derrek Favors.

1505
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 1: You know Hood can score the ball. You've got Joe Ingle,

1506
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean you Donovan Mitchell coming in. And we've got

1507
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: so many good players that that can play to play

1508
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: the game the right way. So it's gonna we got

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01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 1: an interesting future. Uh and and I think I think

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01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 1: we can surprise a lot of people. We just gotta

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01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 1: get more consistent, I agree. Now. The lifestyle of the NBA, Yeah,

1512
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: you get in at three in the morning to Boston,

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01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 1: and like you sleep, Yeah, I couldn't really sleep, So

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01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 1: I watched a couple of TV shows right before I

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01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: went to bed. Anything I was in, okay, I not

1516
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,879
Speaker 1: in net show? Okay, all right, they didn't have Netflix

1517
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: or showtime Netflix. That's what I watched. I was on Netflix. Okay,

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01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm on a Netflix show now. That's fine. We'll talk

1519
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 1: about that later. You could check that out. You I know,

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01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 1: you guys have plenty times. So you get in at

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01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 1: three and then you have practiced today. You're an off day?

1522
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: Are you ever? Like fuck practice? And like what is

1523
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: it off to your practice? When you're in Boston after

1524
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: coming off a loss? Yeah, I mean we uh like

1525
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 1: ship we woke up. I woke up, but like TT

1526
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,839
Speaker 1: five had to be in the weight room at eleven.

1527
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: You know, got some lightweights in, you know, stretched the

1528
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 1: body out a little bit, go over here, get some

1529
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 1: shots up and and that's it. So it's light. It's light,

1530
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: it's l I mean not every not all coaches are

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01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: the same though. I mean you got old school coaches,

1532
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: you got new coaches you got I mean, like I said,

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01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: I was five years, five and a half years in

1534
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 1: Detroit and I had six different coaches five and a

1535
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: half years and sixty different coaches who had the most

1536
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: intense practices that you like, who consistently has hard practices.

1537
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: Stan had had consistently pretty hard hard practices. Stan Van Gundi. Yeah,

1538
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 1: he's practices, they're just longer, more intense like the Van Gundis.

1539
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 1: Whether it's like they're from the nineties, Jeff stand I

1540
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 1: think they got like Rocko van Gundy. They got a

1541
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 1: whole Van Gundi crew, like they're like in the nineties.

1542
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: Now you're you're your coach now. He played in North Carolina, right,

1543
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 1: Duke Duke, same thing to me. I'm a I'm a

1544
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 1: big East guy. They're a SEC. And how are you

1545
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,799
Speaker 1: like playing for him? I love playing for Quinn. Uh

1546
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: He's he's, if not the best coach I've had, one

1547
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 1: of the best. Um, you know, just like you know,

1548
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,600
Speaker 1: he's played the game, he knows how it is, he

1549
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: knows how the body feels. He really listens to the players.

1550
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: Uh So it's been really cool these three months to

1551
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 1: see how how he handles the team, because, like I said,

1552
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of different coaching and and and

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01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 1: I'd say this is the best coaching I've had in

1554
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: the league. So you had six in Detroit, Brad Stevens,

1555
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: So this is like your seventh eighth coach six seven eight, Yeah,

1556
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,759
Speaker 1: eighth coach. And this is my ninth year that's crazy

1557
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: man playing in Utah. The crowd and the arena like

1558
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: they're like on top of you. It's great. I mean

1559
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 1: it's and they have a great DJ. Surprisingly yeah, you

1560
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 1: know the Utah Jazz because you know they have a

1561
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: little the little music cues and you would think Utah,

1562
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: they play good music in there. Now. Our fans man

1563
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 1: are great. I mean I had great fans here in

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01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: Boston obviously, you know, we had some great playoff runs

1565
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: and the fans were great. But Utah fans, man, they're

1566
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: they're showing up here in the in the in the

1567
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: regular season and just walking around town. Just everybody's real

1568
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:53,640
Speaker 1: just supportive of the team, like no matter how if

1569
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: we're winning or losing. Like they're just die hard Utah

1570
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 1: Jazz fans and it's pretty pretty cool to see a

1571
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: well listen, Jonas Jonas Jarepco. It was a pleasure a

1572
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: big fan. I want to see you continue to kick as.

1573
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: I want to see continue to bring back ship talking

1574
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 1: to the NBA without getting fined. The art of ship talking.

1575
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: It's you guys gotta pay. It's like, uh, the movie Casino,

1576
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: you know the movie, Like that's how you guys gotta

1577
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 1: do it on the watch. If you watch people though

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01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 1: that that's what people do right now when they talk.

1579
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 1: They put their their jersey over their mouths. Sometimes on

1580
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 1: the bench. I see you guys doing that. But like

1581
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 1: if you so, if you see somebody a player going

1582
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: up to an opponent, that's that's gotta be ship talking

1583
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: might be going on. All right, well bring it back

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Speaker 1: as long as you don't get fine. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: joining the Iron Rapport Stereo podcast, Jonas Jarepco. Great, that's it.

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Speaker 1: That was good. That was good. Thanks man, thanks for

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