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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, back for another week of training camp. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. One Bill's Live is the show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in. Another practice in the books, I

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Speaker 2: believe this is day ten and back.

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Speaker 3: You can't tell because they're all the same.

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Speaker 2: Well, for the most part, today was a very long,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, practice session. They went to about a

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Speaker 2: quarter again twelve.

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Speaker 1: We were at lunch. We were coming out the untrum

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Speaker 1: my Sean McDermott was walking in. We we complained how

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Speaker 1: long practice was for us.

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Speaker 2: Didn't complain. He looked at us. He goes, come on,

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Speaker 2: aren't you guys gonna even sweat? I said, coach, I

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Speaker 2: will have you know. We had to stand out there

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Speaker 2: for over two hours today at practice.

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Speaker 4: Let me you can you talk to the guy that

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Speaker 4: decides how long this is.

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Speaker 1: I had to slide in my chair to get back

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Speaker 1: into the shade because the shade left.

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Speaker 3: They were out there so long.

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Speaker 2: So, uh, you know, it's great. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: he's talking. We're doing our part around here.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: In any event, I'll tell you it was a long

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Speaker 4: It was a long sash.

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Speaker 3: It was a long one and it was the first

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Speaker 3: time I've seen a fight.

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Speaker 2: It was a little scrap after the play Spencer Brown

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Speaker 2: and all.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't really counts a fight.

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Speaker 4: It was a little tussle, but that's first one.

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Speaker 2: I was pushing and shoving first, grabbing people's helmets, whipping

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Speaker 2: them off people's heads, and then you know, the other

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Speaker 2: people got in there, and yeah, it was good. Cooler

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Speaker 2: heads prevailed.

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Speaker 1: You know it was going to be that early in

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Speaker 1: practice they had some one on one blitz pick up

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Speaker 1: for the backs and the tight end. Yeah, with the

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Speaker 1: linebackers and safeties coming off the edge or coming up

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Speaker 1: through the A gap as well, all that stuff, and

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Speaker 1: you could tell it was one of those practice because

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Speaker 1: you know, one guy wins and then you know, place

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Speaker 1: goes nuts and then the next reps like it's on brosleeve.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, James Cook had a really good pass protection. He

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Speaker 2: did rep in there. I was waiting for him to

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Speaker 2: rotate through again, but he didn't because I think the

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Speaker 2: segment got shortened, the time got shortened or something. For

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Speaker 2: that segment of practice, he was getting pats on the

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Speaker 2: back because he just locked in there against the linebacker

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Speaker 2: and held his ground, which I don't think many people

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Speaker 2: looking at him think he's capable of doing I've heard

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Speaker 2: some criticism amongst the media.

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Speaker 4: James can stand in there, man.

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Speaker 2: So he's getting good coaching and I think he's better

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Speaker 2: at it than he was last year. And you know

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Speaker 2: that Ken Dorsey has plans to have him be a

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Speaker 2: three down back, so that's gonna have to be in

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Speaker 2: his tool chat if he wants to stay on the field.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise they'll have to split him out wide and put

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Speaker 2: somebody like Latavius Murray or Damion Harris in the backfield.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or you know, or Dawson Knox or somebody, you know,

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Speaker 1: a big body who knows. But long practice in my

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Speaker 1: but in my view, is the most physical practice I've

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Speaker 1: seen in a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, multiple periods.

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Speaker 1: In this practice, they were banging hard and guys were

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Speaker 1: today and it was ratcheted up.

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Speaker 3: And they know too. I think they get a day

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Speaker 3: off tomorrow, so there's a little bit of that going on.

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Speaker 4: That's why I went along, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: It was it was fun practice to be at and

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Speaker 1: it was different.

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Speaker 3: It was really different.

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Speaker 2: Practice on Friday night got pretty intense when they had

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Speaker 2: short yardage for twelve plays and then went goal line

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Speaker 4: Right after that, So that was pretty heated.

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Speaker 2: Just to kind of recap last Friday, the return of

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Speaker 2: the Blue and Red practice slash scrimmage, the defense had

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Speaker 2: the better of the play on that night, dominating the

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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage and also great in pass coverage. The

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Speaker 2: football to even get a first down. So when they

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Speaker 4: To move the sticks.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the defense just came to play,

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Speaker 2: but they were bowing up people and they looked really good.

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Speaker 2: That defensive front is going to be a problem, and

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Speaker 2: that's without Von millerback and no Jordan Phillips at least

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Speaker 2: at that time last Friday.

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Speaker 4: So you had those.

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Speaker 3: Two guys Jones, Tim settle At, Oliver.

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Speaker 3: They seem to be a really good combination to me.

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Speaker 2: And I think those will be two guys that will

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Speaker 2: definitely be in there in goal line situations this season,

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Speaker 4: Both of them are hard to move.

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Speaker 2: You can't move them, so that'd be a nice little

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Speaker 2: into goal line type situations. And then Sunday, Christian Benford

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Speaker 2: little behind Dane Jackson and Kyrie Elam, who by most accounts,

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Speaker 2: including mine, were neck and neck. And all Christian Benford

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Speaker 2: minute drill at the end of practice today. So and

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Speaker 2: for that to boot.

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Speaker 2: A cornerback two competition that you kind of thought maybe

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Speaker 2: two candidates still has three very much in the mix here.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be very interesting to see how they whittle

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Speaker 1: It seems simple, but it makes an enormous difference. And

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Speaker 1: I've never seen or heard about a team doing it

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Speaker 1: a guy flashes up, they they keep him, let him

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Speaker 1: ahead of Kyrie Elam. Even I have I have always

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Speaker 3: You know, most you know, they.

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Speaker 1: Once you get your roster filled out, you know, coaches

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Speaker 1: fall in love with guys. You know Matt Mulano, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, Tremaine Edmunds, all these guys, you know, the

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Speaker 1: the go down the list Josh, you know, Tredavious, Stapho.

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Speaker 3: Poorer and High.

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Speaker 1: You know, you get these guys that are a core group,

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Speaker 1: and you really, you know, it's hard not to just say, oh,

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Speaker 1: they start letting guys filter in there say because hey,

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Speaker 1: the guy's playing well, we want to give him a chance,

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Speaker 1: you know that the rest of the roster is is

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Speaker 1: absolutely on fire to keep producing and get on the

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Speaker 1: field because they know when they do flash, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a chance to I'm I can't, I can't put

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Speaker 1: and the head coach to where they go, well, you

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Speaker 1: know what, this guy's he's done this and this and this.

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Speaker 1: They go, Okay, give them give him some more. Let's

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Speaker 1: see what he can do, you know, And that's it

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Speaker 1: sounds simple, but man, oh man, it's a complicated rotation.

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Speaker 1: It's a complicated chemistry problem. And but I think that

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Speaker 1: as much as anything else, is key to their player development.

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Speaker 1: That you're you've gone on and on about over the

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Speaker 1: years so much Brownie. I think it's an incredible element.

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Speaker 1: You see it, I think first hand out here when

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Speaker 1: these guys get elevated.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the middle linebacker competition, for those that may not

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Speaker 2: have been paying attention over the weekend, Bobby Babbage, the

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Speaker 2: linebacker's coach, addressing the media on Sunday after before practice,

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Speaker 2: essentially confirmed that right now the line middle linebacker competition

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Speaker 2: is down to two candidates. Baile Inspector is still in

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Speaker 4: Which we kind of clue people in.

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Speaker 2: One last week when we saw Baalin Spector didn't get

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Speaker 2: day it was a new guy with the first team,

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Speaker 2: Spector was pulled out of his rotational spot and it

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Speaker 2: and they've been flip flopping since then. And it's, as

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Speaker 2: Bobby Babbage put it, it's not that Specter hasn't done anything.

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Speaker 2: It's not like he's done anything wrong or underperformed. It's

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Speaker 2: just that those two guys have been more sound in

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Speaker 2: it's making checks at the line or making plays themselves.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting they've just done more right.

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Speaker 1: That that spot affects everybody, So you it's more than

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Speaker 1: just about you being able to run up and stuff

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Speaker 1: the run or drop into coverage too. Everybody else's job

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Speaker 1: is depending on your ability to see it, relay it,

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Speaker 1: and get the coverage in the back end meshed with

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Speaker 1: the rush package of front. And everybody's got to hear

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Speaker 1: you and hear your voice, and you've got to make

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Speaker 1: sure it's right. So there's a lot on the plate

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Speaker 1: of that middle linebacker that affects everybody else how they play.

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Speaker 1: You know, he may be the greatest player, everybody's not.

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Speaker 1: If he's not good at that part of the game,

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Speaker 1: nobody else on the defense can play. So it's critical

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Speaker 1: that the guy has a little bit more in his

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Speaker 1: helmet than just a thick skull. You know, somebody can

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Speaker 1: thump people. You got to be able to get everything

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Speaker 1: meshed around you, and it's a lot.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot, and you.

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Speaker 1: Can't make too many mistakes in there and have your

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Speaker 1: team kind of hang in there with you.

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Speaker 2: Not practicing today at Oliver with what was described by

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Speaker 2: coach McDermott as back soreness. Wide receiver Isaiah Coulter is

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Speaker 2: still out with the knee injury, Cam Lewis who suffered

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Speaker 2: a groin injury in practice yesterday, and Reggie Gilliam also

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Speaker 2: down with a groin injury. Jordan Phillips, who came off

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Speaker 2: the pup list on Sunday, participated in individual positions, had

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Speaker 2: practice Sunday, did not do any teamwork today. He was

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Speaker 2: Hopefully that is not a setback of any kind for

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Speaker 4: Let's bring in stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: It's just about every head coach in the league subscribes

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Speaker 1: He could be a wiss army Knight. Yes, so I

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Speaker 3: I think that's gonna help.

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Speaker 2: the NFL presented by Coalida Health, the official healthcare system

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills, and we begin in Cincinnati, Steve,

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Speaker 3: Right they go.

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Speaker 1: They go Browns, Ravens, Rams, Titans, Cardinals this week.

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Speaker 1: We imagine, what's gonna happen if the Bengals come out

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Speaker 4: It didn't look good.

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Speaker 3: Nope, he's gonna come back in worse shape than I'm

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Speaker 4: Now that's saying something.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna to come back and get it. He's not

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Speaker 1: And I listen, it happened like first day of training camp.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like what was telling you about Von

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Speaker 4: He's going to help you, right.

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Speaker 1: You're playing the other guy.

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young will start Saturday's preseason opener against the Jets.

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Speaker 4: And what else happened?

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Speaker 2: The Vikings over the weekend signed Nikhil Harry after a

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Speaker 3: What are people gonna say about the treats.

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Speaker 4: That they can't develop wide receivers?

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Speaker 2: five fifty one, eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 4: The number to get on board is we are.

442
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Speaker 2: Asking you who do you think could be a new

443
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: difference maker on the Bills defense this season? And leading

444
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 2: us off today is Jack and West Seneca. What do

445
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 2: you got for as Jack?

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00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I wanted to ask about the

447
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:32,439
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. All right, it's off topic, but I

448
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 5: nearly fell out of my chair when they announced the

449
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 5: guys and that ugly sucker Klecko bade the Hall of

450
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 5: Fame and they pass over Steve Castor. I just don't

451
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 5: understand it.

452
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 4: And yeah, so go ahead.

453
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, go ahead. You know that's about all I have.

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Speaker 1: To, Okay, all right, regardless of how regardless of how

455
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: good looking Joe Cleco is, it really doesn't matter whether

456
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 1: he when he comes to getting all.

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00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't and I'll.

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Speaker 1: Just bet I was out of that. I was out

459
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: of that well before they got to the final guys,

460
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Speaker 1: I was.

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00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 4: Out of it well.

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Speaker 2: And he's from He's from the class that got voted

463
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Speaker 2: on last year at this time.

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00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 4: Yes, so he wasn't.

465
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: Steve wasn't even in the seniors committee pool last year.

466
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Speaker 4: He was where Joe Cleco came from.

467
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Speaker 2: Steve was in his last year as a modern era

468
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 2: candidate last year at this time when they voted to

469
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Speaker 2: induct Joe Cleco. And look, not for nothing. Joe Cleco

470
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: had a very long career as a defensive lineman. Played

471
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: three different positions on the defensive line and under.

472
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Speaker 4: Tackle and noseguard.

473
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Speaker 2: Had a twenty sacks season at the defensive tackle position,

474
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Speaker 2: and played for thirteen years. I think he was two

475
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Speaker 2: or three times All Pro and went to a handful

476
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: of Pro Bowls as well. And he was on a

477
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Speaker 2: formidable and in the history of the league memorable defensive front,

478
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: the sack exchange you know, with Mark Gaston, O, Marty Lyons,

479
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: Abdul Salam. They went to an AFC title game and

480
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: lost to the Dolphins. I mean, not for nothing. The

481
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 2: Jets don't go that far in the playoffs very often.

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Speaker 3: Here's the problem, here's one problem.

483
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Speaker 4: And he had a storied career. I mean he really did.

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Speaker 1: Here's how Here's why I have a problem with this

485
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: type of conversation. I have nothing to do with Joe

486
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: Cleco and Joe Kleco being in the Hall of has

487
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: nothing to do with me, right, Joe's a great player.

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00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

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00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with the guys he went

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00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 1: in with, or the guys who didn't get in this

491
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: year or haven't gotten in the past. This isn't about

492
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: comparing him to me and me to a different guy

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Speaker 1: and those guys to these guys.

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Speaker 4: And the Hall of Fame selectors don't do that either.

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00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 1: No, they all you gotta do is is the guy

496
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: worthy or not? And and there's only there's a short

497
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: it's a short list every year. They can't let all

498
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: these people in. It's a high bar, and it should

499
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: be a high bar. So I appreciate all the conversations

500
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: people have had about my career. I'm humbled by it.

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00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: It's an honor to be in the conversation whenever I

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00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: get in there. But I'd appreciate everybody listening. If if

503
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: you call in, you don't have to disparage guys like

504
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: Joe Cleco or or whoever else you might think about

505
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: getting in the Hall of Fame this year or that

506
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: year or whatever other Hall of famers. You don't have

507
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: to disparage them to talk about me. They don't deserve it.

508
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: It's not on them they have I have nothing to

509
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: do now with with getting into the Hall of Fame.

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00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: If I do, or if I would, and they don't

511
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: have any it's all done for them. I've never mounted pete.

512
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,239
Speaker 1: My listeners know, I've never mounted a campaign to get in.

513
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: All the stuff you see on Twitter, the handles, that's

514
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: none of that is me, none of the all the

515
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: none of that. I've never hired a PR firm. I've

516
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: never any of that, right, And so it has nothing

517
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: to do with the other inductees.

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00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 3: Those guys are awesome dudes.

519
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: They're great players, most of them that all the ones

520
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: I've met have been phenomenal. So I appreciate the conversation

521
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: when you're when you're you know, wishing I was in

522
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: or whatever. But you don't have to disparage any of

523
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: the other guys that do get in, because they have

524
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: They've had great careers too, and we should acknowledge it,

525
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: and I have no problem doing that.

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00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 3: They're great dudes, and I'm happy for him, very happy

527
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: for him.

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00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 4: Let's go back to the phones and we go to

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00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 4: Cassidy in Batavia. What do you got for his?

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00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 3: Cassidy?

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Speaker 6: Are you there?

532
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, Hey, I'm gonna say, obviously, the obvious answer

533
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 7: would be Taylor rap making defense more versatile, but I

534
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 7: know you guys have them coming on, so I'm gonna say, Turnevioswhite.

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00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 7: I have more time to recover from injury and being

536
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 7: more of himself, both mentally and physically. I think he's

537
00:25:59,400 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 7: a game changer.

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00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So you think he kind of makes it back

539
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: to his all pro form.

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00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 4: That's I like that idea.

541
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 7: Yes, okay, yeah.

542
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: I ask Cassidy appreciated. That's a good call, and you're right,

543
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be somebody off the radar. Yeah,

544
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: Trey is CB one and he's going to be there.

545
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 4: And was sorely missed last year.

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00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: He was sorely missed, and we have talked a lot

547
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: about how he seems more comfortable in his own skin

548
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: this year. I think last year and I witnessed this

549
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: and also experienced it, whenever you're hurt and you're kind

550
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: of hanging around, you're not on the field on the team,

551
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: but you're still on the team. But you're hurt and

552
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: you're recovering and you're not you can't contribute, but you

553
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 1: got to be there to participate, and it's it really

554
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: beats the heck out of your self esteem. You know,

555
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: it's really hard to feel like you're a guy that

556
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: can contribute when you can't even take a rep. So

557
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: it I can understand why Trey might have been in

558
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: a bad headspace last year for a long time and

559
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: it took him a long time to.

560
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: Get back to it.

561
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: But you're right, he could be a guy if he

562
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: comes out spreads his wings again like we saw him

563
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: two years ago and three years ago and throughout his career. Yes,

564
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: this defense will be markedly different. That's a good call.

565
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: Thanks.

566
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 4: Let's go to CJ in Buffalo next. What do you

567
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 4: have for a CJ?

568
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: Hey?

569
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 8: Guys, how you doing today?

570
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 4: Good?

571
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 8: Hey? So, I know Steve was talking about Sean McDermott

572
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 8: and how he doesn't really get stuck on players, which

573
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 8: is true now, but I do think he learned his

574
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 8: lesson in the beginning with Nate Peterman. I know Sean

575
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 8: McDermott saw a lot of potential in Nate Peterman, and

576
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 8: I think we all did after his great preseasons, and

577
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 8: then it just the talent never came to fruition during

578
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 8: the game. So I think Sean mcdermt learns his learned

579
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 8: his lesson with you know, really keying on a one player. Secondly,

580
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 8: I want to go to the twelve personnel. After Dawson

581
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 8: Knox spoke this morning, he sounds like we really plan

582
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 8: on running the ball a little more, you know, because

583
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 8: I think he's the first guy I heard talk about

584
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 8: him and Ken Kaid actually blocking. You know, he brought

585
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,239
Speaker 8: up them blocking and how Dorsey mixes it up and

586
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 8: how to be harder for teams to really key in

587
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 8: when you're in that formation of twelve personnel, one back

588
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 8: and two tight ends, and especially with Diggs and Davis

589
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 8: on the outside, Like I'm super excited for this, especially

590
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 8: with Osiris turns that guard being a bigger body. I

591
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 8: know he's not as mobile as Baits, but this has

592
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 8: me My mouth is water in for football right now.

593
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know it's a valid point, CJ. Because

594
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: if you think of it, this way. Even if the

595
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 2: Bills trot out twelve personnel on the field, based on

596
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: what they've done with Josh Allen at quarterback the last

597
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: four years, what do you think the first inclination of

598
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: the opposing defense is going to be? They're gonna be

599
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: thrown it anyway, So we're going to protect against the

600
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: pass because Josh Allen can hit any point on the

601
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: field with this right, so you're gonna defend the pass first.

602
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: So there, I think very early in the season, there's

603
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of opposing defenses when the Bills

604
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: come out in twelve personnel that are going to invite

605
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: them to run the football, show us you can do

606
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: it right, and until they prove otherwise, they'll continue to

607
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: play them that way. But I think the Bills are

608
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: gonna be looking at a lot of light boxes early

609
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: in the season.

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00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: That's what it's gonna be about. They're gonna force, They're

611
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: gonna they'll throw twelve person out there, personnel out there,

612
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: they'll throw eleven personnel, they'll throw ten personnel, and they'll

613
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: throw probably twenty two personnel out there with two backs

614
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: and two running two tight ends, two running backs, and

615
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: then within those personnel sets, they're gonna be able, hopefully,

616
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: and that's this is the idea. They're gonna get a

617
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: matchup that they can exploit, and they're gonna be able

618
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: to run the ball whenever they want and throw the

619
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: ball whenever they want and be successful doing it out

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00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: of all those personnel.

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00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: That's the whole idea behind it.

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00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: Certainly, there's gonna be personnel groups where they're gonna be

623
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 1: better and where most opponents will match up poorly with

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00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: whatever set they put out there, whether it's twelve personnel,

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00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: eleven personnel, or twenty two personnel, teams are by and

626
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: large are.

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00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: Gonna struggle to match up with that.

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00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: Maybe it's twelve personnel this year, it doesn't matter, because

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00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: if you get out there in twelve and all of

630
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got you're treating it like a three

631
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver set, even at the most, and all of

632
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: a sudden James Cook splits out. Now you're four wide

633
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: and Dawson knocks backs up and he's a two hundred

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00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: and fifty five pounds tailback or something. You know, all

635
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: of that creative stuff, that's what you've got to do,

636
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: All of that stuff inside that personnel group and force

637
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: the defense to defend it, you know, and that's the key.

638
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: So I think there they are gonna have a wider

639
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: range of personnel groupings this year than they did last year.

640
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: They were like eleven personnel a lot, and I think

641
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna be more effective out of those other groups

642
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: because of guys like Kinkaid, because of guys like James Cook,

643
00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: and because of guys.

644
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 3: Like Sherfield all of that.

645
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm excited about the other personnel groupings that

646
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: they may be able to put out there and what

647
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: they can do out of it, whether they can out

648
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: physical some teams, because that's always fun when your team

649
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 1: can out push the other team. You'll just get out

650
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: there and beat them up, push them around.

651
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 3: It's fun.

652
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: Break time for us here.

653
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: But when we come back, sitting between us, we'll be

654
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: one tailor Rap new defensive back on Buffalo's roster. What

655
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: role could he play in Buffalo's defense this season.

656
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: We'll see if we can find out. Next here on

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Speaker 4: One Bill's Live, presented by a Lot of Health, It's

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Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to One Bill's Live out of training camp

660
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: at Saint John Fisher University longer practice today here on Monday,

661
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: Guy to my left, but probably anticipated some extra reps

662
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: with an off day tomorrow. Taylor Rap joining us here

663
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: on the show. You'll good to have you, Taylor. Why

664
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: don't we start there? You know, you kind of had

665
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: a weekend session Friday night in front of the Bills

666
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: fans for the first time, you know, your first exposure

667
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: to that in a stadium setting. I guess I should say,

668
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: because you've had them out here at training camp. What

669
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: was what was that like getting on the turf for

670
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: the first time, you know, kind of suiting out.

671
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, just the electric atmosphere. You know, Bill's

672
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 9: Mafia's was in full full effect Friday night, and so

673
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 9: that was kind of my first time seeing them, you know,

674
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 9: in the in real action in the high marks. So

675
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 9: just an electric night, you know, you know, first two

676
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 9: weeks of camp kind of ramping up to that first

677
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 9: scram is kind of you know, I guess, a little

678
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 9: more pads popping, a little more energy, a little more

679
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 9: juice flowing in the in the stadium. So it's just

680
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 9: good good getting there and you know, get those you know,

681
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 9: pregame routines going and stuff like that.

682
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: Give us an idea of where's camp at right now.

683
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: You're you're ramping up now this next week, at the

684
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: end of the week Saturday, you got a game, uh

685
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: kind of installs kind of well into it now you're

686
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: getting into the install, you know, percentage of the place.

687
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: You've got to give us an idea of where camp is,

688
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: where the team is right now. As far as the

689
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: defensive install, offensive install.

690
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think you said it. You know,

691
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 9: this was kind of I guess just kind of you know,

692
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 9: we already installed basically everything in OTAs as well, and

693
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 9: kind of you know, we picked it up running hot,

694
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 9: started training camp. So I think I think that really

695
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 9: that first week we kind of basically threw our full package,

696
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 9: you know, eighty ninety percent of you know what what

697
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 9: we have in the system, and uh, you know, just

698
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 9: building off of that great offseason, uh that we had.

699
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 9: Like you said, you know, we're we're leading up, ramping

700
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 9: back up. You know, obviously Friday we just had the

701
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 9: scrimmage and uh, you know, just ramping back up this

702
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 9: week and make sure we have great week of work,

703
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 9: but also you know, preparing for that first first pre

704
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 9: season game on Saturday.

705
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: How how much are you looking forward to seeing a

706
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: different color jersey out there and playing against somebody besides

707
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: your own teammates where you can really kind of let

708
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: it go a little bit if you.

709
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 9: Definitely, you know, I think, uh, you know, from just

710
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 9: this practice, you already you can already tell, you know,

711
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 9: everyone's craving a little more contact, craving a little more

712
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 9: live action, you know, like like we said, uh, you know,

713
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 9: Friday night we got you know, a few few live

714
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 9: reps and a little more pass popping. But you know, uh,

715
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 9: I guess in my my four years with the Rams,

716
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 9: we we always do joint practices, but you know we

717
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 9: we we don't do joint practices here and so you know,

718
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 9: just be able to get that kind of uh more

719
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 9: more juice and more more action and you know, going

720
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 9: up against someone who you haven't gone up every single

721
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 9: day training camp. You know, I think everyone's you know,

722
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 9: craving itching for that's contact against the against another color,

723
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 9: against another end.

724
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: Just how's your how's it coming with you fleshing out

725
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: a role for yourself, a spot you know that you

726
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: know in the backfield, in your defensive back room.

727
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, you know, you know all all I

728
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 9: can do is control what I can control, and you know,

729
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 9: just to show the show, the coaches, coach, show, the

730
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 9: you know, organization that you know, I can be a

731
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 9: versatile piece that I can use in different ways. And

732
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 9: at the end of the day, it's all about just winning,

733
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 9: winning and getting to that, you know, the super Bowl

734
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 9: and getting over the hump, right, you know that that

735
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 9: the Bills need to get over. And you know, like

736
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 9: I said, at the end of the day, Uh, you know,

737
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 9: I just I just want to be a puzzle piece

738
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 9: in that you know, wherever I can fit, whether it's

739
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 9: special teams, whether it's some sub packages, you know, different roles, whatever,

740
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 9: whatever the coaches asked me to do. You know, I

741
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 9: just uh, all I can do, like I said, is

742
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 9: it's just just show that I can be a versatile

743
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 9: piece that I can be using multiple ways.

744
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 6: And you know that's that's all I can do.

745
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 9: But you know, just looking forward to helping the team

746
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 9: out in any way possible.

747
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in in l A, you had more

748
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: of a defined role like this is what I'm.

749
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 4: Doing in this defense here.

750
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: Without getting into too much detail, it looks like you're

751
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: you could potentially be a chess piece for coach McDermott

752
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: to move around in some various roles. How does that

753
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 2: change your weekly preparation knowing the role could be different

754
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: week to week.

755
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 4: It might be multiple even within a.

756
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: Singular game plan, right, you know, like this series, All right, Tailor,

757
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: you're gonna be doing this, this is oh you're over

758
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: here now? Like, how does how does your mind work

759
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 2: to get you ready knowing the roles could be multiple?

760
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean you said it right there.

761
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 6: You know.

762
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 9: I think it's it's one thing to be difficult physically,

763
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 9: but the mental aspect of it too is I would say,

764
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 9: just just as big of the part, just because you know,

765
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 9: me playing multiple positions even even in training camp, you

766
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 9: know me starting out one position and then finishing another position,

767
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 9: going back to another position within one period. It's it's

768
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 9: it's tough mentally, just because you got to fully switch

769
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 9: your mindset, just because you know, different positions obviously require

770
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 9: different mindsets, require different technique, require different plays and all

771
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 9: that stuff. So I would say it's it's it's a

772
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 9: lot mentally, and go ahead.

773
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: I was gonna say sort of follow up on that,

774
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: like there might be one or two roles that you

775
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 2: feel more comfortable with already, so have the coaches encourage you, like, hey,

776
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: if you need more reps in this role, let us

777
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: know so we can get them for you.

778
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 9: Sure, you know, it's it's ongoing communication. You know, I

779
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 9: don't even know what my role is going to be

780
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 9: in defense and I don't I'm not even sure the

781
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 9: coaches know either, So you know, just you know, just

782
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 9: having that ongoing conversation. I'm ongoing dialogue with the coaches

783
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 9: and you know, it helps out in training camp because

784
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 9: we have so much, so many reps and and walk

785
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 9: throughs as well, where I can you know, focus in

786
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 9: hone in on one position and walk through and then

787
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 9: the next day kind of switch my mindset and learn

788
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 9: another position or vice versa, you know, one one position

789
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 9: for for practice and then switching my mindset for for

790
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 9: the walk through later evenings. So you know, it's it's

791
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 9: just great work and you know, I'm just uh looking

792
00:37:59,440 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 9: forward to it.

793
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: You know, we kind of take for granted that if

794
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: it's hard to come out and compete, you're trying to

795
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: compete to get on the field, you don't and it's

796
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: hard to do that when you're gonna have to learn

797
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: mich Al hyde spot, Jordan Poyer's spot, you know what

798
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: a nickel corner spot, or maybe even will you know

799
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: all this stuff that you could go in and do that.

800
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: Does it make it hard to compete in Free and

801
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 1: Easy when you do have to switch your entire mindset

802
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: and one period to the next.

803
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 9: Yes, I would say so, just because you know you don't.

804
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 9: You can't really I can't really master one position, you know,

805
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 9: and you know, you kind of get overlooking at you know,

806
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 9: a little bit of intro and basic at all the

807
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 9: positions and kind of a big picture, big picture thing,

808
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 9: and you know, I was just, uh, it's a good

809
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 9: problem to have, you know, it's a great problem to have.

810
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 10: You know.

811
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 9: I'm I'm I'm not complaining about it, but I would

812
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 9: definitely say it's it's tough for me to kind of

813
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 9: hone in on one position and try to master my

814
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 9: craft at one position. But you know, I know it's

815
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 9: all about the process, and you know, I just I'm

816
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 9: just taking it one day at a time. All I

817
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 9: can try to do is, you know, improve one day

818
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 9: at a time, and you know, just just get better

819
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 9: at each position one day at a time.

820
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: At the same time, You're kind of a new guy

821
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: getting dropped into a back seven that, for the most part,

822
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: has been together for several years, and in those differing roles,

823
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: you have to play off of different guys. How is

824
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: that element going in terms of, Hey, you know, when

825
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: I line up with Tyrrell or I line up with Matt,

826
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: I know what to expect now because I've gotten enough

827
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: reps with him, But maybe I could get some more

828
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 2: reps with this guy to feel more comfortable going forward.

829
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 2: How is that playing off one another?

830
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 4: How is that?

831
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 6: Yeah?

832
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that dynamic is is definitely you know,

833
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 9: one one thing that's been interesting just because you know,

834
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 9: I you know, I'm in training camp. I'm going in

835
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 9: with the sometimes with the one, sometimes with two, sometimes

836
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 9: with the threes at different positions, and so, you know,

837
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 9: coach coach Butler, he always talks about, you know, in meetings,

838
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 9: you know, overemphasizing communication because you know, one one snap,

839
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 9: I'm gonna be in with you know, uh, some different corners,

840
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 9: some different linebackers and stuff like that. So you're just

841
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 9: trying to build the chemistry with the whole tire defense.

842
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 9: And you know, I think that's what all training camp

843
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 9: is about. That's what you know, us coming to Rochester,

844
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 9: coming and spending time out here at Saint John Fisher

845
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 9: and getting away from you know, all the external stuff,

846
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 9: all the outside noise, and just building that bond in

847
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 9: chemistry just because you know, I really think that bond

848
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 9: and chemistry throughout a whole back you know, the whole eleven,

849
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 9: but especially the back, the back seven, you know, in

850
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 9: coverage and in communication is so important. So that's what

851
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 9: all you know, being here at Rochester is all about

852
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 9: building that chemistry, building that bond with everyone.

853
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you talk about the reps, and you know, he

854
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: seems to training camp, you gont rep after rep, but

855
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: there's only so many reps and you can only take

856
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: them one at a time, right, and so there's only

857
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: so many you can get. Where have you taken the

858
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: least amount of reps? I mean, I mean, I think.

859
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 4: I can tell you I don't even think I could

860
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 4: quarterback tackle.

861
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to probably, But you know, Mike, when you

862
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: came here, where's the spot that they got you playing

863
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: that you don't you haven't really had an experienced playing

864
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: if there is.

865
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 9: One, Yeah, I mean I would say kind of just

866
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 9: that that sub package that you know, that Will nickel position,

867
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 9: you know, the big big nickel position. I guess some

868
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 9: big dime position linebacker will whatever. You know I I

869
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 9: I got a little taste of that in l A.

870
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 9: But you know, obviously different system, different defensive plays and stuff,

871
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 9: and you know, a little more different technique. But you know,

872
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 9: I I definitely feel a little more comfortable obviously at

873
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 9: the safety positions, just because I kind of have that

874
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 9: background safety playing my whole career. And then you know,

875
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 9: so so definitely you know that that that nickel I guess,

876
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 9: uh big nickel position, that that dime will will linebacker.

877
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 4: All Right, we've talked enough football. Steve's a dog guy.

878
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 4: I'm a dog guy.

879
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: I read like you and your wife like rescue two

880
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: dogs from China, and like, I know they come. You know,

881
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: a lot of rescue dogs come from different places. We

882
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: get a lot of them up here in western New

883
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: York that gets shipped up from Alabama or down south somewhere.

884
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: Did you have to go over there and bring them

885
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 4: back yourselves? How did that all work?

886
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 2: Because I was like, man, that's doing some good work

887
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: there halfway around the world.

888
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 9: So two dogs, two dogs, So our first one we

889
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 9: we rescued our first one, Allie are our boy dog

890
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 9: from China. Actually so killing this organization Bunnies Buddies. If

891
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 9: you everyone you know on social media, they're on Instagram

892
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 9: shout out Bunnies Buddies sou n n y s and

893
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 9: then buddies at Bunnies Buddies on Instagram. You know, we've

894
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 9: been following this organization for a while. They rescue all

895
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 9: kinds of dogs, not only Golden Retrievers from from Asia,

896
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 9: so from China, Korea, South Korea. And then you know,

897
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 9: like I said, our first dog, Ali, I think that

898
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 9: was my second year in the league. We kind of

899
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 9: we actually got it, I think like two days before Christmas,

900
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 9: like December twenty third.

901
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 4: It was kind of like our I.

902
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 9: Guess Christmas present to my girlfriend at the time, to

903
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 9: each other, you know, and it's just been amazing, you know,

904
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 9: you know, taking him in and you know what from

905
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 9: he what what he's come from and stuff like that,

906
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 9: and you know him just relearning to be a dog again.

907
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 4: You know.

908
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 9: We got him at I think to two and a

909
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 9: half years old, and it's almost like he's still a

910
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 9: puppy and now he's like almost five and he's still

911
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 9: a puppy because he's he's learning, you know, all that

912
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 9: the real dog, all all what it all all takes

913
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 9: to be a dog. And then our second one, Maya,

914
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 9: we actually got from South Korea last year, last last offseason,

915
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 9: so we welcomed both of them and you know, they've

916
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 9: they've been amazing additions.

917
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 6: We we love them.

918
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: They you know, they keep the wives company when you're

919
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: on the road trip exactly.

920
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

921
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 6: With the dogs.

922
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, they're they're they're awesome.

923
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 4: That's great.

924
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 3: Thanks for coming by, Thanks for having.

925
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: A right good luck this so much at saleor rap

926
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: joining us here on one Bills Live. We'll take a

927
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: break through back with more in a second.

928
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 4: Stay jumped.

929
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: All right, mark your calendars because Kids Day is back Saturday,

930
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: August twelfth. The Bills will welcome the Indianapolis Colts for

931
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 2: their lone home preseason matchup at one pm. Kids Day,

932
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: presented by Fisher Price, is the perfect time to enjoy

933
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: a Bills game with the whole family. Starting at nine

934
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: am and the bus and Limo a Lott at high

935
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: Mark Stadium. Festivities kickoff with the Junior Tailgate at nine

936
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: which will have games, activities and giveaways along with a

937
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: dance party hosted by d J.

938
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 4: Milk.

939
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: It is a must see experience. So we hope to

940
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: see you all out there this weekend.

941
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: I'm Bill Colts. I'm really looking forward to it. Fun

942
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: to be out you know, there's this place is going

943
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: to be packed. It's going to be rocking. I was

944
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: loved to kids' voices at the games there. It's it's

945
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: a cool environment. It gets a new generation acclimated well.

946
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: And they'll be all hopped up on sugar by the

947
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: time they go into the stadium. That's what all that

948
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: stuff going on outside. But I'm sure he's gonna be

949
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: cotton candy as far as the eye can see.

950
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: We're all hyped out. You know, it'll be crashing by

951
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 4: the second quarter. But that's besides the point, Right, they'll.

952
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: Be ready for kickoff and then that way the broadcast

953
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: can get camera shots of kids sleeping in the.

954
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: After the totchdown. Right, That's right, that's we'll do that.

955
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones at ATO three oh

956
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: five fifty, where we are asking you today who will

957
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: be the new.

958
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 4: Difference maker on defense this season?

959
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: Could be a player that's already been on this roster,

960
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: but hasn't assumed a larger role.

961
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 4: Who's ready to do that? Or maybe it is one

962
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 4: of the new signees.

963
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 2: Poon Afford looked awfully good on Friday night in short

964
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: yardage situations, just stoning people. So uh, pick whoever you

965
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: want and then let us know. At ATO three oh

966
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: five to fifty, we go to the phones into Jerry

967
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: and Buffalo.

968
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 4: Next, what do you got for us? Jerry?

969
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 11: Afternoon, gentlemen, Just on in, Chris, Hello, and I just

970
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 11: also wanted to say a special hello to that an

971
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 11: a clause train each year left. Mister tasker, I do

972
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 11: have to let you.

973
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: Know you're referring to my beard. Listen, it's two tone

974
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: for the most part. I got a black goatee and mustache.

975
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: So I was thinking, wasn't thinking Santa Claus as much

976
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: as Sean Connery?

977
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: Go ahead, go ahead, Jerry, Okay.

978
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 11: Anyway, As far as a defensive player, that might surprise

979
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 11: some people is I'm excited to see Shane Ray. I

980
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 11: think he's got I think people are undertelling the fact

981
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 11: that because he was out of the NFL for so

982
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 11: many years, but they're not considering the fact that he

983
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 11: also played in the CFL for quite a while, so

984
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 11: I'm excited to see him, like to hear what you think.

985
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 11: But before I get off, Steve, I just want to

986
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 11: let you know it's difficult getting one of your jerseys

987
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 11: in this area. I had to spend quite a bit

988
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 11: of time going to the bill store and online trying

989
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 11: to one of your jerseys, and I don't understand it.

990
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 11: So I got to talk to somebody.

991
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: Well, there's a couple of reasons for that. One I

992
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: played a lifetime ago and two I played a lifetime ago.

993
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 4: Well, and they were hard to You couldn't get him.

994
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 3: I couldn't get him.

995
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: Well, I can't get I'm wondering if he's trying to

996
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: track down the authentic nineties version that's hard to get. Like,

997
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: if you just want to order a Bill's jersey, now

998
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: put Tasker on the back in eighty nine.

999
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 4: You can do that.

1000
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: You can cuss like Mortar jerseys online for sure, but

1001
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: there are some hoops to jump through. Yeah, and you

1002
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 1: got to pay through the nose.

1003
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 2: Concerning his Shane ray Pick, I will say and I

1004
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: think Steve's in agreement on this. He has made an

1005
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: impression and I think he will be pushing some of

1006
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: the guys that aren't on the first team for a

1007
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: roster spot at the defensive end position.

1008
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 4: I think what he unquestionably has is a speed rush.

1009
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 4: I think we just need through the.

1010
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: Course of the preseason to see a little bit more

1011
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: of his counter move game. And if he has a

1012
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: counter move game, whether it's a spin or a one

1013
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: arm stab or whatever it is, I think he's got

1014
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: to show that he has a repertoire to turn to

1015
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 2: because the offensive tackles are too good in this league

1016
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: to where they'll be able to stop a one trick pony.

1017
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: You have to have a counter repertoire.

1018
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: The thing that I saw too and I don't want to,

1019
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: you know, be a homer he or anything, but Shane

1020
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: Ray is also out taking reps on special teams and

1021
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: he's put in a full effort. Yeah, he's really working

1022
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: hard to get on get on a special team's unit,

1023
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: punt punt return, kickoff, kickoff return. He's a big body dude,

1024
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: and he's got athleticism, so he can do that.

1025
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 3: If he can continue.

1026
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: That, it'll be it'll be like al Darryl Johnston kind

1027
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: of guy who the Bills drafted a few years ago.

1028
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 4: And the seventh round pick.

1029
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 3: Seventh round pick who was in Carolina for a minute

1030
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: might still be.

1031
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 4: Oh they traded him to Carolina.

1032
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he can be a guy who can contribute

1033
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: in the rotation and give him an extra roster plus

1034
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: be a good player rotationally. He's smart enough to know

1035
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: you've got to contribute as much as you can. And

1036
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: he's out taking big special teams reps in practice, So

1037
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: that to me says he's on their radar for sure.

1038
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: And Brown and I we were talking back and forth

1039
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: about Shane Ray and Cameron Klein today about who they

1040
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: are and you know, if they can they I think

1041
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: they're both on the radar of the roster of getting

1042
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: a chance to come in and contribute.

1043
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're pushing people like Book And that's why

1044
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 2: they're pushing right.

1045
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: Because right now it's almost the point where Boogie Bashman

1046
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: and AJ Panessa they're known commodities. If Cameron Klein or

1047
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: Shane Ray can convince the coaching staff they've got an

1048
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: upside that may be bigger than they're showing right now.

1049
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: And if they're competing at the same level that AJ

1050
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: and and Boogie and all these guys are and they

1051
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: can convince them that there's more in the tank. They

1052
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: win because you're going to bring a guy in who

1053
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: especially if he's taking special teams reps. So that's where

1054
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: they're up against, is that rotation group, you know, the

1055
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: defensive line. And yeah, Shane Ray and Cameron Klein have

1056
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: both done some things that are like caught Brownie and

1057
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: iye attention. So it's interesting to see and it's a

1058
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: good call.

1059
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: Tom and Rochester, stay where you are. We will get

1060
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 2: to you, but we are up against the break. You'll

1061
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 2: be first after this as we are asking you who

1062
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: will be the new difference maker on defense this coming season.

1063
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 4: Tom and Rochester leads us off.

1064
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 2: When we come back here on One Bill's Live presented

1065
00:50:32,400 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1066
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Lives presented by Calllida Helped.

1067
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: Now or number two.

1068
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 2: Here on a Monday at Bill's training camp, Chris Brown

1069
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you at Saint John Fisher University with

1070
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: day ten of training camp now in the books. Only

1071
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 2: two more practices here in Rochester before we're back down

1072
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: the throu way for good. Steve and I will be

1073
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 2: in the studio tomorrow, as Tomorrow is an off day

1074
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 2: for the players, so we'll be back at one Bill's

1075
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: Drive only to come back out here on Wednesday and Thursday.

1076
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 3: Giddy up.

1077
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: But let's get back to the phones at eight oh

1078
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: three five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

1079
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: two five.

1080
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: Let me get this straight hand before we go to

1081
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: Tom from Rochester. Thursday's our last show from training camp.

1082
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 4: That is correct. Wow, In the blink of an eye,

1083
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 4: blink of an.

1084
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: Eye, the season just rolls downhill Man.

1085
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: The topic of discussion today for you, who will be

1086
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: the new difference maker on defense this season? Who rises

1087
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: up and makes a splash that you believe not many

1088
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: are anticipating. To a man who has exhibited plenty of

1089
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 2: patients and holding for a while, Tom in Rochester, thanks

1090
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: for holding.

1091
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 4: What do you got for us?

1092
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 12: Well? First of all, Steve, you're a Hall of Famer

1093
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 12: to me, Thank you. And I've been thinking about this

1094
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 12: and it's been very easy for me. Greg Grussol, I

1095
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 12: think he's twenty two to twenty three now. He has

1096
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 12: all the intangibles you want. He seems like he's getting

1097
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 12: bigger every year. I think if von Miller comes back,

1098
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 12: the way. I think he should come back, and with

1099
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 12: Ford in the middle and a healthy defensive line, it's

1100
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 12: gonna be hard for the offensive line not to one

1101
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 12: stop one of them. But ousso I think is gonna

1102
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 12: be coming at the quarterback a lot at times.

1103
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought I like that pick.

1104
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good pick.

1105
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 4: Thanks Tom.

1106
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: I'll say this, I thought he was ready to have

1107
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: a breakout season last year. The guy had four sacks

1108
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: in his first four games, then gets the high ankle spring,

1109
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 2: misses a few games, tries to come back and play

1110
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: through it, and I think we can all agree, and

1111
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: Greg might even agree himself that he wasn't quite the

1112
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: same player essentially playing on one good.

1113
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 4: Ankle for the rest of the season.

1114
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: Still finished with eight sacks to tie for the team

1115
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: lead last year, missing three games and playing on a

1116
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: gimpie leg for like the last ten. So if staying

1117
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: healthy is the key for him, I think as long

1118
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: as he stays healthy, he is going to be successful

1119
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 2: as one of the top pass rushers on this football team.

1120
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 4: So I like that pick, Tom.

1121
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is one of the top pass rushers on

1122
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: the team, no question about it. Von Miller not with

1123
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: standing Leonard Floyd notwithstanding, I mean those guys, he's in

1124
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 1: there with him, and you're right, he seems this seems

1125
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: to be to me it's his third year.

1126
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 4: Breakout time.

1127
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: I think it is time for that. And I'll say

1128
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 1: this too, I don't know that we have a real

1129
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: glimpse of the solid rotation that's going to go on

1130
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: behind Russeau, behind von Miller, behind Leonard Floyd and all

1131
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: that got.

1132
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 3: The rest of them.

1133
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't think we have a clear picture of what's

1134
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: going to happen behind those guys that'll have a lot

1135
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: to do, a lot, a big say in how many

1136
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: reps they get, how productive they're going to be. But Rousseau,

1137
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: I like that pick because of what he's been through

1138
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: this point of his career. And the thing is you

1139
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: said he's better every year. He was bigger this year.

1140
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: He got off to a lightning start last year before

1141
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: he got sabotaged by an injury, and then he dragged

1142
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: that around the whole season. I like that pick, And

1143
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 1: like I said, it's nice that people are picking people

1144
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: that are that aren't just like down the roster. Some

1145
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: of these guys are really going to have a chance

1146
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: to make a difference, and I think Russeau is a

1147
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: great pick.

1148
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like Rousseau.

1149
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 2: We've heard Taylor Rap's name mentioned as well, and I

1150
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 2: think there are other candidates. Really, I mean there's a

1151
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: host of guys who I mean, whoever wins the middle

1152
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 2: linebacker competition, Yeah, that could be a new difference maker

1153
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: in this defense. Yes, cornerback two. Whoever nails that job down,

1154
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 2: if it's one guy could be the new difference maker

1155
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: on the d could.

1156
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: Be the head coach. Sean McDermott too.

1157
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we because a different guy pushing the

1158
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: buttons is going to get different results than other guys

1159
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: would and those results depend on the guys he uses,

1160
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: the guys he likes, the guys who thrive under his

1161
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: mindset as a defensive coordinator. And it could be completely

1162
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: different people than we've seen in the past, and it'll

1163
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 1: be interesting to see.

1164
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 3: I think that's as funny thing to think about as anything.

1165
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 4: Let's go back to the phones and three five fifty

1166
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 4: open line for you. There one eight eight five.

1167
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 2: Fifty two five fifty where you can hit us up

1168
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: on the tweet sheeet at one Bill's Live.

1169
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 4: But let's go to Justin in Rochester. What do you

1170
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 4: got for us? Justin, Hey, how you.

1171
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 6: Guys are going well?

1172
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 13: I just wanted to shout out my dad and my uncle,

1173
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 13: lifelong Bills fans out there in Kansas City, Missouri. They

1174
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 13: listen to you guys every day.

1175
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 14: They love you as we uh.

1176
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 13: Uh Now with your question, I mean it's it's what

1177
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 13: I what I think you're The main thing you have

1178
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 13: is new right there with the new guys. I think

1179
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 13: Taylor rat I think he's going to play a really

1180
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 13: important role, like I think on the third downs. I

1181
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 13: think Tyrol Dotson went to the middle live every competition

1182
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 13: and I think I turn down. Maybe they feel a

1183
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 13: lot wrapping there a lot. Also, Leonard Floyd is a

1184
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 13: new addition to us. I think he's going to play

1185
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 13: a biggotational role. But you know, given a bond, right,

1186
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 13: I mean he's obviously the number one difference naked trade A.

1187
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 13: He's gonna be back to his off form. Man Malana

1188
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 13: might be player the year. Who knows so? Russo Leonard

1189
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 13: Floyd too. If I think they all played big role, all.

1190
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 4: Right, I like that.

1191
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: Justin, thanks for the call. What do we make of

1192
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: Leonard Floyd? You and I were talking about and watching

1193
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: practice today. I'm still stupefied that the Bills were able

1194
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: to get a guy of his caliber in June for

1195
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: seven million dollars on a one year deal. I mean,

1196
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: I was just telling you last weekend, Yannikin Gockway signs

1197
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: for ten and a half million on a one year deal.

1198
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: This guy signed back in June for three million less

1199
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 2: than that, and I think he's a better player.

1200
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: I think it's that's what free agency is. You got

1201
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: a guy like Leonard Floyd who has some skins on

1202
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: the wall and has done some things in the league

1203
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: and is in his own space, making his own decisions.

1204
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: And he comes out. He knows he left the Rams

1205
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: because it's they were dumping salaries. He knows, he's known

1206
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: around the league. And he sat back and he said, Okay,

1207
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: what am I Because I played on the Super Bowl

1208
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: team and then I played on one that was not.

1209
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 3: I'd rather play on one that is. You know.

1210
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: So he's back there sitting sitting down saying okay, he

1211
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: and I he just said, listen, horrid, if I there's

1212
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: no guarantees, he could go to Kansas City, he could

1213
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: go to Cincinnati, he could go to the Jets. He

1214
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: could go to Philly, he could go to San Francisco,

1215
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: and he'd come to Buffalo. All those teams thrown in

1216
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: the hat, you know that picked two of them, one

1217
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: from each conference, and maybe, you know, maybe you got

1218
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: a good chance of the super Bowl. And that's where

1219
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: he's at and he's thinking, okay, and he picked up

1220
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: the phone. He called Vaughan because he played with Vaughn

1221
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: for a minute, called Taylor Rap. He said, how is

1222
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: it you've been to OTAs this was, you know, a

1223
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: month or two ago.

1224
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 3: You guys have been around. What's it like over there?

1225
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: And Vaughn gave him the story of his year in Buffalo,

1226
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: Taylor Apps gave him his early impressions after OTA's and stuff,

1227
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: and he said, all right, that's it. There's no more.

1228
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it's any more complicated than that. A

1229
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: one year deal, come in here, get on another chance

1230
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: at the ring and go and then reset it again

1231
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: next year and go out back on the market, maybe

1232
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: get a big deal or at least another one year

1233
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: deal with hefty money. So I think that's it's no

1234
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: more complicated than that. These guys are sitting with Yaniking

1235
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: Gockway's perfect example. They're sitting back going, all right, I

1236
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: know we're gonna get I'm gonna be somewhere where do

1237
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: I really want to play? Because if it's within twenty

1238
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: percent of every other offer, man, I'm going to someplace

1239
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,479
Speaker 1: where I got a shot at it, because you're gonna

1240
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: get playoff money on top of it. And then you

1241
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: always get that chance that maybe you string a couple

1242
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: three games together and you're you're standing there with Lombardi.

1243
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: So I think it's no more complicated than in Gocway

1244
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: and also Leonard Floyd. It is amazing that those guys

1245
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: are out there, but I think that's a function of

1246
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: free agency and where these guys are at. They're smart

1247
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: enough now it's been around long enough. They come up

1248
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: through the ranks in college and they talk to guys

1249
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: they're training with, They talked to great players, they rub

1250
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: up against von Miller's Pass Rush Summit, they talk to

1251
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: guys at the at the sb's They get around and

1252
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: they think, okay, all right, I'm just gonna pick my

1253
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: spot rather than you know, leverage it and you know,

1254
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: tweet and wipe my wipe the rams off my social media.

1255
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 3: I ain't do it. They said, where all play and

1256
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 3: they take the deal?

1257
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really did.

1258
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that aspect of it because

1259
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: that was that was so far. That was light years

1260
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: from the mindset of the guys I played with.

1261
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't long ago where the Bills had to overpay

1262
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 2: Tier two free agents and Tier three free agents just

1263
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 2: to come here. That's right, Larry Triplett, Derek Dockery, Langston Walker.

1264
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: They overpaid to get those guys to play here.

1265
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 3: Winning helps everything out.

1266
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: And I'm it's not just it's not just Josh Allen's

1267
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott.

1268
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 4: Now they're get Brandon Bean.

1269
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: Now, they're getting the guy with thirty sacks the last

1270
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: three years to play for seven million dollars.

1271
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 3: I mean, and they only get him, and they only

1272
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 3: get him for one year. Well, and I get that.

1273
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 4: But if things go well, come on back, let's.

1274
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: Play it back, you know. But I think that's where

1275
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: free agency is right now. These guys are saying, yeah, okay,

1276
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm you sign these big deal like Pat Mahomes signing

1277
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: a four hundred and fifty million dollars deal with a

1278
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: chance at five hundred million.

1279
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 4: Over ten years.

1280
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that money's a fairy tale right now, you know.

1281
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 3: And he's playing great.

1282
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 4: He's the and he's the best guy out there, you.

1283
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

1284
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: So you know what, just you know what, I'm gonna

1285
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: play this year by year, I'm gonna bet on myself

1286
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put together a nice career and I'm

1287
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: gonna pick my spots, right. There's something to be said

1288
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: for that. Back to the phones, we go into Bob

1289
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: and cheek de Waganax, what do you got for us?

1290
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 4: Bob?

1291
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 15: Hi, guys, I'm trying you with a new contract and everything.

1292
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,479
Speaker 15: I think at Oliver is going to lead the team

1293
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 15: in tas to make his first Pro Bowl.

1294
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 6: I really do.

1295
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 15: I think this guy's gonna play lights out.

1296
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 6: He's a big boy, and that's all.

1297
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 15: They want to say.

1298
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 4: Guys, All right, that's fair. I will say this.

1299
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 2: You know, there are some in personnel departments across this

1300
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 2: league that worry about giving big money to big guys

1301
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: on the defensive line because there is a history of

1302
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: big guys when they get the big money, taking it

1303
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 2: out of gear and not being the same player they

1304
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 2: were to earn that contract in the first place.

1305
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 3: What have you noticed about Ed.

1306
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 4: He is happy out here. It's I've ever seen him

1307
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 4: this happy. He is like and let's go.

1308
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 2: And we had Daiquon on the show last week and

1309
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: we were asking him about Ed and we said, you know,

1310
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: he seems happier, Like what's going on there, Like what's

1311
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: what's changed? And he said he was a little mad

1312
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 2: last year that he didn't get an extension last year

1313
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: because if you look at a lot of the top

1314
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 2: picks for this team, a lot of them sign an

1315
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 2: extension going into the final year of their rookie contract

1316
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 2: prior to the fifty year option, right, and Dawson Knox

1317
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: did that, and there were a couple others. Tarren Johnson

1318
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: was another one. So I think he was kind of

1319
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 2: expecting that and then it didn't happen. So I think

1320
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: he was a little agitated by that last year based

1321
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 2: on what the day Kuon was telling us. And so

1322
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 2: when that when that extension finally did come through, I

1323
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 2: think it just totally flipped his mindset and outlook about

1324
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: his future with this football team. And now he didn't

1325
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 2: practice today because he's got some back soreness, But I

1326
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: think his entire disposition has changed about approaching the game.

1327
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: And we heard from Eric Washington earlier in this training camp.

1328
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 4: Stephen, what did he say? He said, Ed has all

1329
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 4: the talent in the world to play at this level.

1330
01:03:55,320 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: What we need him to do now is to play

1331
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: an anticipatory style and use his brain to get to

1332
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: spots faster, to make more plays than he already makes

1333
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 2: on a more consistent basis.

1334
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 4: And that's the leap he's got to take it.

1335
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: He seems like he's in a really good place mentally.

1336
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

1337
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: And despite the back pain that he's not practicing with

1338
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: the day, I mean, it's not like he didn't do anything.

1339
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: They had him out there breaking a sweat today, even

1340
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: doing some stuff that didn't stress his back. But you

1341
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: can picture anybody can picture themselves get into a spot

1342
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: where all of a sudden, the people they work with

1343
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: and work around do something in this case of contract

1344
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: extension with you know, really good money, and you look

1345
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: around and get wow, I really, you know, I do

1346
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: belong here.

1347
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 3: This is my spot there. They don't have any doubts

1348
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 3: about me.

1349
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 6: You know.

1350
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: You can picture Ed and the rhetoric, right, you could

1351
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: just go around and around with how how he was

1352
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: and then the outside nor the fans and how they

1353
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: were kind of come on, Ed, you know, get and

1354
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: and to have the team say no, Ed, you're you're

1355
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: our guy, sign this deal, let's go.

1356
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 3: We want you here. To have the relief and the kind.

1357
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: Of the exuberance of having somebody give you a big

1358
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: vote of confidence. I think he's feeling that right now.

1359
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: I think he was feeling that during during the early

1360
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: part of camp, and I.

1361
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 3: Think it shows. I think it's really shown in his.

1362
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 4: Play back to the phones. We go and to mark

1363
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 4: an Orchard Park next, what do you got for us? Mark?

1364
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 11: Hello?

1365
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 16: Are you there?

1366
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, We're here ahead.

1367
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 6: Oh.

1368
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: Well.

1369
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 16: The first thing I want to say is, you know,

1370
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 16: this isn't my first time on the show, so I've

1371
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 16: been on there four or five times. What I want

1372
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 16: to say is, you know, for Steve Tasker, you know,

1373
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 16: I'm sorry that you know you're not going to be

1374
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 16: into that Hall of Fame, but you deserved every part

1375
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 16: of it for you know, what you did as a

1376
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 16: special teamer.

1377
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 6: Uh.

1378
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 16: Now to go to what I want to say, uh

1379
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 16: more importantly is I go back to the Kansas City game.

1380
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 16: Uh two years ago, you know, when we had the

1381
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 16: opportunity to win that game fifteen seconds left? Who made

1382
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 16: that call? Was it Leslie Fraser or Sean McDermott that

1383
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 16: we backed up and we didn't put any pressure on there?

1384
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 6: Thank you?

1385
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough, thanks for the call.

1386
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 16: Mark.

1387
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: That's gonna leave us that that game left a bigger

1388
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: scar than just about any game.

1389
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 3: It's it's up there, maybe wide right, it's bigger.

1390
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, it's not far behind it though, Music City Miracle.

1391
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 3: I think it's this generation probably wide right.

1392
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: Music City Miracle. It might be third, yeah, maybe might

1393
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: be third. Maybe this generation it is, it's wide right,

1394
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Ever, a generation's got its disappointment.

1395
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: We've all Buffalo Bills fans are like ninety percent Scar tissue,

1396
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: you know.

1397
01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 4: So uh.

1398
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah maybe, but and I couldn't tell you.

1399
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: I don't think any The club has been a little

1400
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: bit mum about what happened on that. The players have

1401
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: have owned up to it, some saying hey, and rightfully so.

1402
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: Some of the players have said, hey, it was me.

1403
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: If I'd have done this, I'd ha been this. And

1404
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: they do it to themselves, you know, they take credit

1405
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: for it and blame themselves. So I don't know if

1406
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: we'll ever get to the bottom of what happened at

1407
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: the end of the game. Yeah, we may find there

1408
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: was a confluence of mistakes in my opinion, and starting

1409
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: with the kickoffs.

1410
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 2: Right, let's get back to the phones. Dominic and Buffalo

1411
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 2: is up next.

1412
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 14: What do you got for his Dominic and gentlemen, thanks

1413
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 14: for taking a call, just like Mark Sending and a

1414
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 14: lot of other people. Eighty nine for Hall of Fame

1415
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 14: all day, every day. I just want to say, Greg

1416
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 14: Russow is the obvious answer here. But Leonard Floyd, I

1417
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 14: believe is going to be an absolute beast. He's going

1418
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,479
Speaker 14: to be back to his pull bowl form, especially playing

1419
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 14: opposite the von Miller, and I think you know, you

1420
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 14: know this is flash shot. I think he's going to

1421
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 14: leave it all out there on the field, and to

1422
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 14: a surprise to a lot of people. I believe despite

1423
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 14: having two third round draft picks, that linebacker Bayalin Spector

1424
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 14: ends up winning that job. I watched that kid in

1425
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 14: the practice on fighting. He's a lot bigger than I thought,

1426
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 14: and I think a football IQ is a lot higher

1427
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 14: than a lot of people might give him credit for it.

1428
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 14: I'm not quite sure if it's true or not, but

1429
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 14: he just seems like he might be the real deal

1430
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 14: out there and learning from Milano and all these other

1431
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 14: veterans out there, you know, all the talk is about

1432
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 14: the those offenses just should be that's where the leaks at.

1433
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 14: And we got an all world quarterback and wide receiver.

1434
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 14: But with our rotation and our depth and all pros

1435
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 14: at every level on this defense, the biggest challenge for

1436
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 14: the opposing team is going to be their offensive coordinator

1437
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 14: scheming against these guys. They're not going to know where

1438
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 14: the heck these guys are coming from, what they're looking for,

1439
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 14: what they're looking at, and we end up finishing in

1440
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 14: the top five in quarterback prushers, sacks, and interceptions as

1441
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 14: we go to the end of the season in the

1442
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 14: hoist at Lombardi Trophy this year.

1443
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 2: All right, there you go the passion dominic. He's fired up, man,

1444
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: he's ready for the regular season. I mean, I will

1445
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: say that, And Steve and I have talked about this.

1446
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 2: With Sean McDermott calling the plays, I think the general

1447
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 2: consensus is there could be at times more aggressive play

1448
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 2: calling under coach McDermott. That is what the history is,

1449
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 2: you know, in terms of you know, scheming things and

1450
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 2: trying to be more unpredictable with the defense. As Dominic said,

1451
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 2: where pressures coming from to you know, discern, Hey, how

1452
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 2: are we going to block this up? I think they're

1453
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 2: going to throw some curveballs more than we've seen in

1454
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 2: recent years at opposing offenses. That should translate into confusion,

1455
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 2: hurried throws, interceptions, sacks. When Sean McDermott was the d

1456
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 2: C in Carolina, their team was routinely in the top

1457
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 2: five in sacks and takeaways. That's not by accident. Now,

1458
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 2: they had some horses down there too. I mean, you're

1459
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: you know, you're talking about some really really good players

1460
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 2: down there, whether it's Luke Heithley, Julius.

1461
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 4: Peppersae Peppers was a people like that.

1462
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 3: So Peppers was a space alien. He was so gifted. Yes,

1463
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 3: you know there's some guys like that out there.

1464
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 2: But the point is well taken and and I think

1465
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 2: it could make this defense. And Steve has said this,

1466
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 2: while they may not be number one in yards allowed

1467
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 2: to be the number one defense in the league, they

1468
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: may be near the top of the league in splash

1469
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 2: plays in terms of takeaways and sacks.

1470
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, that's what we'd like, I mean, you know,

1471
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: and I'm and I get it. It's the casual fan.

1472
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: The Bill's defense last year was it was good, but

1473
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: it was you know, okay, I want to see Josh

1474
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 1: Allen get off the kind of get off the field.

1475
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't really you weren't with baited breath

1476
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: waiting for the next sack and the sack, strip, fumble, interception,

1477
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: you know, tipped interception, all that stuff. It just didn't

1478
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: happen all that often, or at least not in the

1479
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: moments where you'd remember it. And and I think Bills

1480
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: fans are kind of hungry one of those big play defenses.

1481
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 1: Having said that, this defensive front, and we've talked about it,

1482
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: I think the offensive line of the Bills is much better,

1483
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 1: but it doesn't look at against this front. These guys

1484
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: are They've got a wide range of skills. Sets Pooniford, Day,

1485
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: Kwon Jones, ed Oliver down inside along with Jordan Phillips,

1486
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: sim they got some dudes and the guys on.

1487
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 4: The kitchen, Kendall Vickers flashed, I know.

1488
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 3: All these guys.

1489
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: So they got some guys who can really disrupt. And

1490
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: I think with Sean McDermott. And right now they're still

1491
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: pouring one test tube into the other, finding right chemistry,

1492
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 1: finding the right mix, guys who like to work together,

1493
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: who can work together, who are good at working together,

1494
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: seem to click with each other. All of that's possible

1495
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: in there, and I think they're still experimenting with that.

1496
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 1: But I think Sean McDermott has a chance with this

1497
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: to really put a bunch of combinations out there that

1498
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: really forced the offense to.

1499
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 3: Go, Okay, wait a minute, now, wait a minute, Wait

1500
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 3: a minute.

1501
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: You know the quarterbacks can be looking over here and

1502
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a protect We've got a protection problem.

1503
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: And a telltale sign will be if if whoever it

1504
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: is and on on the game on on, you know

1505
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: this kid rich Stroud or whoever it is in Indianapolis,

1506
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: whoever the Bills are playing Anthony Richardson, If they're back

1507
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: there and he's like this looking around and he starts

1508
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: bringing guys in off the edge to stand next to

1509
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: him to pass protect, you know they got a problems.

1510
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: That's that's a tailtale sign when a quarterback's back there

1511
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, he's motioning a guy because he

1512
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: said protect me.

1513
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 4: I got a problem, and over here, I need a bodyguard.

1514
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 3: Right, So that'll tell.

1515
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: That'll be a tailtale sign as to how much respect

1516
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: teams have for Bill's defense. We'll see it when preseason starts,

1517
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: and hopefully when the regular season starts.

1518
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a break here, but when we come back,

1519
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,759
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk to one of those very past rushers.

1520
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 4: Or now we won't talk to him.

1521
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 2: He's gonna be addressing the media right after practice, Leonard

1522
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: Floyd talk to the media. We're gonna re rack his

1523
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 2: comments for you when we return here on One Bill's Live,

1524
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right

1525
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 2: back here on One Bills Live, Chris Brown Steve Tasker

1526
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 2: with you live from Saint John Fisher University. Bill's training Camp,

1527
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 2: Day ten. In the books, only two more practices out

1528
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 2: here remain for Wednesday and for Thursday. Time now though,

1529
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 2: for us to turn to one Leonard Floyd, who addressed

1530
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 2: the media after practice today.

1531
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 10: Look at it a positive because I can go back

1532
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 10: to the film and go with my coach and we

1533
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 10: can correct it. And I feel like as long as

1534
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 10: I make the mistake one hundred miles hour. I'll be fine,

1535
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying, just clean it up. When

1536
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 10: I watched the film.

1537
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: How much different is this system compared to what you've

1538
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: better yet all the other trucks.

1539
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 6: Oh, I don't have to drop nowhere near as much?

1540
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 10: Uh yeah, and three four five drop every other play

1541
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 10: this defense we.

1542
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 6: We attacked attack attack.

1543
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, definitely.

1544
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 3: Man.

1545
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 10: That leads to getting talking for losses and hits on

1546
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 10: the quarterback in sacks. I definitely love that better.

1547
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 9: I've seen you a json for the other guys, working

1548
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 9: with them and kind of you know, back.

1549
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 6: And forth with with your knowledge.

1550
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 17: Why do you do you think that that's an important

1551
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 17: part of this while you're also just trying to get

1552
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 17: implemented into a new team doing both of those types

1553
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 17: of I think.

1554
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 10: It's important because, uh, you'll be able to trust each

1555
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 10: other when when either one of us is in the game.

1556
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying, We will be able to

1557
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 10: know that we got the moves to get to the

1558
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 10: quarterback no matter who's.

1559
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 6: In the game.

1560
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 18: Lays have been getting after the quarterback and practices. What

1561
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 18: has it been like to be a this defensive line

1562
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 18: and play through.

1563
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 4: Training camp so far?

1564
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 6: It's been fun.

1565
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 3: Man.

1566
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 10: We got a great group of guys and all the

1567
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 10: guys work hard and uh.

1568
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 6: They they know football, you know.

1569
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 10: Uh, you could tell every guy wants to win and

1570
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 10: every day we fight hard to win.

1571
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:18,440
Speaker 3: How many chances that competition?

1572
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 4: And they did a lot and you're part of this

1573
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 4: to to create.

1574
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: Competition that you know kind of that edge spot or

1575
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: whatever and getting up for the quarterback.

1576
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 6: How has it been.

1577
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 3: Compared to other personation?

1578
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 8: Uh?

1579
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 6: This, like I was telling, uh shaq, Uh, this is

1580
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 6: the best group.

1581
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 10: I've been around as far as I can trust the

1582
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 10: guys when they're in the game, like they they know football.

1583
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 10: I've been on teams where you couldn't really trust the

1584
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 10: guy behind me and I have to play like the

1585
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 10: whole game.

1586
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 6: This being around these.

1587
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 10: Guys, I know with the rotation, everybody can eat. Everybody

1588
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 10: gonna eat.

1589
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 19: Where it creates that trust, so they just doesn't happen

1590
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 19: over night, right, Yeah? So what what creates that trust?

1591
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 10: Uh? Just the man from our from our position, coach

1592
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,759
Speaker 10: and and the leaders.

1593
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 6: Uh it's just the grind and you can see it.

1594
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 10: Like the guys they physical, We physical, you know what

1595
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 10: I'm saying, Like, ain't nobody soft. Uh, guys get in

1596
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 10: the game and they know, let's get to the quarterback.

1597
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 6: Things of that nature. You it shows you that you

1598
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 6: can trust him. What's it like going against Josh every day?

1599
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 3: Oh?

1600
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 6: It's been good.

1601
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 3: Man.

1602
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 10: He he's a great He's a great guy to go against,

1603
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 10: cause ain't too many talkers in the league as good

1604
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 10: as him.

1605
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1606
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 10: Uh, it's it's a great competition for me and for

1607
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 10: the other guys too.

1608
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean.

1609
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 6: Josh every day back there.

1610
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, Josh Man, he's the real deal. I I

1611
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 10: stated that plenty of times.

1612
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

1613
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 10: I mean he's the real deal. I can't really say

1614
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 10: nothing bad about him?

1615
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 6: Which player?

1616
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 19: Which player has drawn and you know, like has drawn

1617
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 19: an interested you out of the d line, that's you know,

1618
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 19: come and to ask you questions?

1619
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 6: Most knowledgeables acting how much questions? Out of that group? Uh?

1620
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 10: I probably say Man a j talk a lot. Uh,

1621
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,719
Speaker 10: men Shot talk a lot. We know each other though,

1622
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 10: probably say those two guys we we talked the most.

1623
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 10: H we talked football the most. U. Both guys can

1624
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 10: play ball too, And Uh, I'm I'm excited to get.

1625
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 19: Out there with him with a how do you see

1626
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 19: him like you you're spitting something off to him. He's

1627
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 19: he's he's he's absorbing act And did you see it

1628
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 19: out there on the field.

1629
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 6: Uh, it's it shows that what type of player he is.

1630
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 6: He's a uh, he's a.

1631
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 10: Player that that knows the game where he knows his moves.

1632
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 10: He he got his pastor's moves and uh and as

1633
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 10: long as you got your pastor of moves, you gonna

1634
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 10: get the you know what I'm saying.

1635
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 6: And Uh, he's a good player. You're you're a You're

1636
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 6: a taller, longer guy.

1637
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 3: So it's ray.

1638
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 6: Can you guys talk a lot about that.

1639
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 2: And say, like, because of your size, can very maybe

1640
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 2: what another drusher might be, how your moves you might

1641
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: have to do some things differently going against other tackles.

1642
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 10: Uh yeah, Uh, I mean you you just gotta know

1643
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 10: your body and know what fits you will you know

1644
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 10: what I'm saying, And once you figure that out, you'll

1645
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 10: be able to go into the game knowing that this

1646
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,839
Speaker 10: move worked for me. You know what I'm saying. Everybody's different.

1647
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 10: Even between me and Greg, we different. We rest completely

1648
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 10: two different ways. And man, it's been a few times

1649
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 10: me and him been in another gather, it's it's gonna

1650
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 10: be hard to deal with.

1651
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 6: It's gonna be hard to deal with.

1652
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 17: I tell you, you're talking to Tyralph Dodson. At one point,

1653
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 17: he could have been talking about anything, but it looked

1654
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 17: like maybe a little technique. You guys are going back

1655
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 17: and forth. Is that the case sometimes with your linebackers?

1656
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:34,799
Speaker 17: And what have you seen out of Dodson?

1657
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 6: Uh?

1658
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 10: It's it's just sharing knowledge, knowledge of the game, no

1659
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 10: matter if I'm asking him a question about this call

1660
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 10: or he asked me a question about a rest move.

1661
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 10: It's just sharing knowledge and doing whatever it takes to

1662
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 10: get better and win games.

1663
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,799
Speaker 17: And from him, I mean he's fighting for that spot

1664
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 17: that's such an important spot in the defense. What have

1665
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 17: you seen from him and the way he interacts with

1666
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 17: all of the defensive.

1667
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 6: Players, Just a hard work of manti. Uh. He fights

1668
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 6: every day like everybody else.

1669
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 10: And uh, we're making it hard for the coach, you

1670
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 10: know what I'm saying, making it hard for him to

1671
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 10: see who gonna be out there.

1672
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 20: Do you feel that as much as your first and

1673
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 20: foremost brought here for your physical talent, your uh, your success,

1674
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 20: your background, all of that, it is do you feel

1675
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 20: that that sense that.

1676
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 21: You also have to be someone that the young guys

1677
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 21: can draw from And it's not just what you tell them,

1678
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 21: it's they see your example, right, and you've been a

1679
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 21: part of right they look to you as something like that.

1680
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 21: Do you f do you feel that as much as

1681
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 21: seege from the outside.

1682
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel that, not only for me, from everybody.

1683
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 17: Uh.

1684
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 10: Our coach do a good job untelling. Everybody in the

1685
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 10: room is leaders. You know what I'm saying. Ain't one

1686
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 10: specific leader. Everybody your leader in some form and fashion.

1687
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 10: And uh, I mean I ask them questions too.

1688
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 6: I can't just sit here and say that they asked

1689
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 6: me all a question.

1690
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 10: They I ask questions too because I'm new, and uh,

1691
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 10: it might be something I don't know the call I

1692
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 10: asked them there to of me and uh, but yeah,

1693
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 10: you gotta lead by example for sure.

1694
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 21: Is it a fun thing to know that you could

1695
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 21: be part of something that you know that this was

1696
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 21: an area that wanted to address and by reaching out

1697
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 21: for you and and other things they did, uh to

1698
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 21: make it better? Is it fun to know that you

1699
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 21: could be part of the uplifting force for this unit,

1700
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 21: for this password?

1701
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's fun.

1702
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 10: It's fun to know and uh, it's also a challenge.

1703
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 10: You got an answer to You gotta come in every

1704
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 10: day and fight hard and uh work as hard as

1705
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 10: you can to achieve the goals that we're putting out

1706
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 10: there for us.

1707
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 4: With your with your free wanted.

1708
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 6: Against some of these guys you've got your up to.

1709
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 6: It was been the key for your for all this time.

1710
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 10: I mean it might it might look like it. It's

1711
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 10: a lot of power, you know what I'm saying. It's

1712
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 10: it's a lot you have to deal with quickness and everything. Uh,

1713
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 10: and I'm gonna I'm gonna make sure you see that

1714
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 10: during the season.

1715
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1716
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 10: Like, it's a lot more that you think then just

1717
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 10: the body structure. It's it's how I'm setting up the move.

1718
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 10: I'm getting out the ball, getting them, getting them weak,

1719
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying. From kicking, then you hit

1720
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 10: them with that power and uh, it's just your body.

1721
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 10: You learn learn learning your body and knowing what moves

1722
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 10: you got.

1723
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 6: That's all it is.

1724
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 3: Taylor Trip that you guys are the Buffalo Rams.

1725
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:20,560
Speaker 6: How does it feel to be reunited.

1726
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:24,759
Speaker 3: With some of your your teammates from.

1727
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 6: It's it's great man. It's it's different too.

1728
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: Man.

1729
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 6: We we work great, we work hard over here.

1730
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 10: I can tell this a big winning coach and uh,

1731
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 10: I'm glad to be here.

1732
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, you Eric Washington, excuse me? Describe you?

1733
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 3: I think you said violent, aggressive, and edgy.

1734
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 14: Take us into what you're like on game day on

1735
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 14: the field of mind.

1736
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 6: Side, give away my secrets.

1737
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:49,480
Speaker 4: Aggressive.

1738
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's that's basically how I feel pretty much when

1739
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 10: I put my paths on, it's it's time to get violent.

1740
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 6: It's time to uh make plays.

1741
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 10: Man, That's really all I think about making plays, And

1742
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 10: especially when I know I got fun and all of

1743
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 10: them they gonna make the play.

1744
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 6: I gotta make sure I'll make the play before them.

1745
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 14: You know.

1746
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 10: It's like competition, you know what I'm saying. Who gonna

1747
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 10: get there first?

1748
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 12: What are you set up?

1749
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 2: Pous teams?

1750
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 6: You've played in the full games and stuff like that.

1751
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 18: Here they rotate their defensive lineman. Have you ever been

1752
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,520
Speaker 18: a part of a team where where they rotate.

1753
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 5: As much as they do?

1754
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 3: Nah?

1755
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,640
Speaker 10: Nah, this this is my first time being around a

1756
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 10: collection of players where we can rotate and everybody is

1757
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 10: bringing a one mentality and uh uh, you can depend

1758
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 10: on the guys.

1759
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 6: Uh.

1760
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, this is my first time being around that. My

1761
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 10: other teams, it was all on me, you know what

1762
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 10: I'm saying. Couldn't really believe in the player behind me.

1763
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 6: Uh but I like it though. Keep you fresh. Play

1764
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 6: Chicago Bears.

1765
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 19: You know about Chicago and they went against rebate. Play

1766
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 19: Aaron Rodgers, you know a week one, all excited our

1767
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 19: YouTube be a point it out.

1768
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 6: I can't wait, you know what I'm saying. But I

1769
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 6: don't want to get too much on trying to keep

1770
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 6: it right here till it's closer.

1771
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 13: Bit.

1772
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, I love Aaron Rudgins. Man, I can't wait to

1773
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 10: get out on him. You know what I'm saying. It's

1774
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 10: gonna be a challenge, and my team ain't gonna be ready,

1775
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:19,759
Speaker 10: and I'm gonna be ready.

1776
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 2: That's Leonard Floyd addressing the media after practice, already throwing

1777
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 2: out some teasers for Week one, when he faces a

1778
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 2: familiar opponent, you know, beginning his career in Chicago and

1779
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 2: having to face Aaron Rodgers twice a season. First game

1780
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 2: in the Bill's uniform will be against Aaron Roger.

1781
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about what the atmosphere is gonna

1782
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 1: be like in that building that night. In the years

1783
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 1: I played there, there was always an energy in New

1784
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: York and it's different than high markets.

1785
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 3: Different. It's unique, like every stadium is unique. New York has.

1786
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: And I don't know how to describe it other than this,

1787
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: you can do you hear a New York guy brown.

1788
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: It's the weight of expectations that go along with the

1789
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:12,679
Speaker 1: team and it is a an experienced, knowledgeable football crowd

1790
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,959
Speaker 1: that refuse to cheer just to cheer.

1791
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 4: The standard it is championship.

1792
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 3: I have made the derogative.

1793
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 1: I've always made the joke, you know, in the time

1794
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: that I played, you know, with the Bills and we

1795
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: played the Jets a ton as an opposing player. The

1796
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: New York Jet fans, and they've been through it, let's

1797
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: face it. I mean, they've been through it. They are

1798
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: happiest when they have a good reason to boo their

1799
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 1: own team. That's their wheelhouse to me. And I say

1800
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: that kind of in a joking manner, but man, oh man,

1801
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 1: they don't. They do not hold back.

1802
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 3: I'm high. When they're high on them, they're high on them.

1803
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: And when they're low on them, man, they will beat

1804
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: their own team with a stick.

1805
01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 2: I remember reading about the early Sabers years. I think

1806
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 2: it was after the seventy two to seventy three season.

1807
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 2: Sabers went to the playoffs and, like their third season

1808
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: in existence, made.

1809
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 4: A nice run but didn't get all the way right.

1810
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 2: And you know there's that famous fan reaction where they're clapping,

1811
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 2: you know, after they lose the series to whomever it was,

1812
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sabers was the champ. Thank you say that

1813
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 2: whole thing. Buffalo fans do that, right. New York fans

1814
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 2: don't do They do not do that, not unless you

1815
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 2: win the whole thing. And if you win the whole thing,

1816
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 2: you are iconic and you are remembered forever.

1817
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:33,759
Speaker 4: That's right in that city.

1818
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,919
Speaker 2: Just ask Joe Namath, who only won two more playoff

1819
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 2: games after the Super Bowl.

1820
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 4: I mean, that's it.

1821
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

1822
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 4: So remember what's he remembered for?

1823
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl guaranteed, super Bowl three guarantee. That's it's It's

1824
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 1: true because you go back and look at Joe NAMA's

1825
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: career in context, even in the context of when he played,

1826
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 1: he was he was okay, yeah, statistically.

1827
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 2: I mean he was throwing four thousand yards a season,

1828
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 2: which at that point was relatively rare. But beyond that,

1829
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 2: go look at his playoff record.

1830
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 4: It's not Hall of Fame.

1831
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: Work at his touchdown interceptions record and his completion percentage

1832
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 1: and all that, you know, But man, man, the dude

1833
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: won the won that. He won that game once and

1834
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 1: he's remembered for it, and and and he's a and

1835
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 1: I love the guy.

1836
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,600
Speaker 3: He's great. So but that's the way it is in

1837
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 3: that city.

1838
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 1: And I think I would think, being the guy I

1839
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: am in my experience, it would be the same in Buffalo.

1840
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean you look at Jim Thurman, Bruce and I

1841
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: mean people you those guys still get stopped, you know.

1842
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's I think it would be the same

1843
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: in Buffalo as it is there, But everything else maybe

1844
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 1: maybe not.

1845
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, we have to take a break here.

1846
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 2: One more segment to go here on One Bill's Live,

1847
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 2: presented by a Colid of Health.

1848
01:26:50,479 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 4: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Here a training can back here

1849
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 4: on One Bill's Live.

1850
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 2: Skies have opened up here at training camp at Saint

1851
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: John Fisher.

1852
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 4: It is pouring right now here.

1853
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with You're going to take one

1854
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 2: final call go to Debbie and Hamburg.

1855
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 22: What do you got for his Debbie, Hi, gentlemen, thanks

1856
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 22: for taking my call. I really love the shows. I

1857
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 22: think it's a combination of things, you know. I think

1858
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 22: having some of our players back healthy on the defensive unit,

1859
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 22: the new editions, and to me, I think it's going

1860
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,759
Speaker 22: to be Sean McDermott calling place to take that defense

1861
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 22: to the next level. Thanks so much, appreciate it.

1862
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, no problem.

1863
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 2: And you know, we had kind of gotten into that

1864
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 2: already a little bit, Steve. I think we're all eagerly

1865
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 2: anticipating to see the effect that Sean McDermott's play calling

1866
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 2: will have on this defense. More importantly, we asked him

1867
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 2: today about how he is delegating the different responsibilities, because

1868
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 2: there are times he wants to get into the details

1869
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 2: with his defense players, but then has head coaching responsibility.

1870
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 4: So he's got to delegate some of that.

1871
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 2: Whether it's Al Holcom or Eric Washington or Bobby Bavage

1872
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 2: or John Butler, whoever it is, He's still navigating some

1873
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 2: of that right now.

1874
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 3: I think that's a big deal.

1875
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 1: I think, in fact, if you could make the case

1876
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 1: that to expect the defense to come out and be

1877
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: gangbusters right out of the gate. May be hard to

1878
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: get your mind around. They may stumble out because because

1879
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 1: of the logistics of the head coach calling defensive plays,

1880
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 1: he hasn't done it and why he's never done it

1881
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 1: as a head coach, and to make to do a

1882
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 1: whole game where you've got to take say, hey, listen,

1883
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: take this series. I got to go back and talk

1884
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 1: to these guys or somebody you know, make the call

1885
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 1: on timeouts because I gotta have my back to the field,

1886
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 1: because I got to talk to my middle linebacker or

1887
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: the defensive line. It's hard for as a defensive coordinator

1888
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: to go back talk to the guys and get the

1889
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 1: details of what they're seeing so you can infuse it

1890
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: into your play calling, while you got to watch the

1891
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: offense and get them straight squared away. So there's a

1892
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: lot in this, and it may be if they do

1893
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 1: get out to a stumbled start, this may have as

1894
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 1: much to do with it as anything.

1895
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're knowing how McDermott sweats the details. I'm

1896
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 2: not anticipating that to be an issue going forward.

1897
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 4: That's it for us today. We'll be in studio at

1898
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 4: One Bill's Drive tomorrow.

1899
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 2: So be sure to tune in at one Happy birthday

1900
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 2: to my lovely wife who's still young and beautiful, to

1901
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 2: see you later.