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Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge. Hey, take mccraig

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Speaker 1: this walk date. So first time I met you, we

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Speaker 1: were next to a pool and you were wearing combat

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Speaker 1: boots and it was ninety five degrees outside. Crazy And

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Speaker 1: look where it's gone since then. Thank you, by the

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Speaker 1: way for playing so many of our jingle ball dates

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Speaker 1: for iHeart.

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 1: I was just told by the jingle ball people, the

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Speaker 1: people that pay our paychecks, that you were officially the

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Speaker 1: the MVP at our jingle Ball tour this year.

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Speaker 2: I've done so many no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: We had some great, great artists, had Bencent Boone had,

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Speaker 1: but they said that you were the one that was

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Speaker 1: the most valuable player.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, thank you.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome. It's crazy, It is kind of crazy, but

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Speaker 1: it's nice to know someone likes you.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 1: Well, so close to what is doing? So well? What

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Speaker 1: have your gun?

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Speaker 2: Can you sick?

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Speaker 1: My gun?

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Speaker 2: Teacher?

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Speaker 1: May I give you some advice? Never give your gum

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Speaker 1: to a stranger.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna harvest your DNA.

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Speaker 1: There's there we don't get. I would take that with you.

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Speaker 1: Where's secured road? God, it's just these people. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Are you having fun? Is this going okay for you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think. I mean, I am so lucky. I

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Speaker 2: have just like my best friends and my team around

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Speaker 2: me all the time. So we're just crying laughing, like

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Speaker 2: twenty four to seven. So it is pretty crazy to

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Speaker 2: be able to like do these moments with people I

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Speaker 2: really love. I mean, we did Foulin last night. We've

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Speaker 2: asked ol this weekend album dropped on Friday, so it's

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Speaker 2: just yeah, we'ven going.

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Speaker 1: It is a busy week. And isn't Jimmy Fallon just

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Speaker 1: the best?

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Speaker 2: He's the best?

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Speaker 1: I love him, you know, even when Mike's are off

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Speaker 1: and there's no cameras on, He's that.

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Speaker 2: He's the exact same person. And that was my first

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Speaker 2: ever like talk show, so I was nervous.

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Speaker 1: It's weird because I've been I've been on that show

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Speaker 1: and when they say, hey, you great, and then that

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Speaker 1: curtain comes open and you're like, okay, you walk out,

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Speaker 1: there's the audio. To your left is the band and

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Speaker 1: there's Jimmy going like waving, come over.

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Speaker 3: She also just said SNL so casually a massive deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's my second time going on and I'm

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Speaker 2: so excited.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to do any skits?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Actually I have no idea, but we'll see. Okay, that'd

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Speaker 1: be fun, I think yes. I actually literally don't know.

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Speaker 2: I actually really don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean the great thing about snl ism you just

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Speaker 1: kind of show up. They go hey can you do this?

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Speaker 1: Put this chicken costume on, and they push them stage.

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Speaker 1: You're like, whoa.

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Speaker 2: The backstage is crazy, it's chaos.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny how when you're in that studio everything

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Speaker 2: Teeny It's like this table, It's like, yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: Stand on this table pretends to stage less. It's small.

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Speaker 1: So okay. But music wise, let's talk about so close

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Speaker 1: to what. Look, this is a bunch of fancy stuff

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Speaker 1: they gave me about the album. It's breaking all sorts

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Speaker 1: of records. It's your most well received today.

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Speaker 2: I don't really like to look at critics and stuff,

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Speaker 2: just because that freaks me out. And also if you

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Speaker 2: the last thing that you want to believe, I think,

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Speaker 2: or the when you put out a project, I'm like

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Speaker 2: I don't need to be, you know, painted by all

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Speaker 2: these opinions because music is so subjective. You just really

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Speaker 2: was proud of this album and I love it. I

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Speaker 2: think that's like how you have to approach every now.

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Speaker 1: A those You'll go nuts, you're going crazy.

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Speaker 2: You're never gonna you're never gonna please everyone, You're never

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Speaker 2: gonna make everyone happy. So it's just if you if

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Speaker 2: you do it for yourself and the music that you like,

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Speaker 2: I think that's the only way that you can really

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what being an artist is.

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Speaker 3: So you don't have control over other people's opinions obviously,

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Speaker 3: and PEO don't care about that, but typically you have

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Speaker 3: control over when that album comes out. And I know

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Speaker 3: that you said you were super upset when you found

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Speaker 1: How does that work?

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Speaker 3: Did you find out who did it?

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Speaker 2: We didn't.

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Speaker 1: Actually we've been looking killed down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just I mean, yeah, it sucks. There's nothing

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Speaker 2: how you want it. And then also what I've been

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Speaker 2: noticing is people get really bad demo witis, which is

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Speaker 2: the thing where when you first write a demo and

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Speaker 2: the production to make it better, a lot of people

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Speaker 2: like end up liking the first version. So the version

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Speaker 2: that got leaked was like very early on versions. And

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Speaker 2: now my fans are like attached to those.

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Speaker 3: Versions, and I'm like, well, then you're kind of giving

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're like, well you change this. I'm like, yeah, because.

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Speaker 1: I'm allowed to. It's your music.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't it wasn't released yet. So yeah, it's been

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Speaker 2: an interesting thing to navigate for sure.

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Speaker 1: Here's a thought. I mean, music, being as cathartic as

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Speaker 1: it is, you write these songs and you get feelings out,

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Speaker 1: it's actually it's like going to therapy. Yeah, in a way,

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Speaker 1: do you think it's possible for therapists to actually start

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Speaker 1: getting writing credits for albumsst wants to.

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Speaker 2: Know eventually they get really good. My therapist is great.

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Speaker 1: They give great advice. It's supposed to be off the record.

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Speaker 1: So even if they said that was their idea in

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Speaker 1: a line, that's a great name for her next album.

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Speaker 1: Off the record, and it's all the sessions and what

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Speaker 1: about collaborations. I know Julia Michaels. We love Julia ever

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Speaker 1: Card together.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we wrote a couple of songs on the album,

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Speaker 2: Revolving Door, Dear God and sports Car together.

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Speaker 1: Do you have other artists like calling you now or

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Speaker 1: finding out and going hey, I want to work with you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I feel like I've been getting a

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Speaker 2: few congratulations.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations.

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Speaker 1: I like Revolving Door, and I don't know if anyone

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Speaker 1: knows that I'm gonna play this today whether you like

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Speaker 1: it or not. I mean, do you have a favorite?

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Speaker 1: Is that a stupid question to ask? If you have

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Speaker 1: a favorite song, so that means the most to you?

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Speaker 2: Off the album, there's a couple that I like. Dear

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Speaker 2: God is one of my favorites, and then Purple A

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Speaker 2: spra is also a favorite. I also love Revolving Door.

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Speaker 1: Thank you do have the least favorite? It's like picking

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Speaker 1: your least favorite. That's a fair question.

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Speaker 3: I know they exist.

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Speaker 2: I don't know my least favorite, Like if I had

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Speaker 2: to choose it, would be like no, not in love,

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Speaker 1: Like the why do you hate that song?

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Speaker 1: A lot that didn't make the album. Like I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of artists come in here and they go,

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Speaker 1: I had fifty cuts and I had to, you know,

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Speaker 1: narrow it down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I write so many songs. So we narrowed it

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Speaker 2: down from like probably seventy songs. Wow, yeah, I'm writing

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Speaker 1: We had to insure it on once and he said

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Speaker 1: he actually has a collection of songs that he hates. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but we said we'd buy that. We said you should

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Speaker 1: actually no title the album the songs I f and hate.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing is, is that actually everything's getting leaked of

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Speaker 2: mine now. So like every single song that I wrote

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Speaker 2: when I was fourteen, fifteen sixteen, like terrible, terrible songs

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Speaker 1: But don't you think hear me out though, Twenty years

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Speaker 1: from now, you'll look back at this album and go, God,

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Speaker 1: those are awful, because you'll be onto something you new.

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Speaker 1: Your life will be totally different.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's always you. You look back and why

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Speaker 2: do they do that or why do they look like that?

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Speaker 2: Or so that happens.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you write an album and by the time

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean all this stuff I wrote six No,

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Speaker 2: that's not true. I wrote a couple of like four

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Speaker 2: I wrote a year ago, a year and a half ago.

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Speaker 2: So it kind of depends to.

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Speaker 1: Be an artist. You're an artist.

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Speaker 3: I'm a different type of artist, and I'd be very

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Speaker 3: upset if my stuff got leaked. Also just painting, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I paint, okay, But when that happens and you guys

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Speaker 3: have this whole plan because I know, when you launch

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Speaker 3: an album, you release an album, yeah, there are tours

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Speaker 1: It and big press releases.

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Speaker 3: Does everything change at that point when something comes out

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I think people think that. Like sometimes

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Speaker 2: drop the songs in the videos, and but there's so

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Speaker 2: of like perfecting plans and you know it is you

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Speaker 2: run it like a business, like you're whatever. So it

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Speaker 2: does take a lot of effort, and when it all

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Speaker 2: gets leaked, you're kind of just like, well what now?

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Speaker 3: And then when your old stuff is leaked also, it's

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Speaker 3: like somebody got ahold of your diary and just posted it.

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Speaker 2: It very much is like that, because there are reasons

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Speaker 2: why you don't release songs, like sometimes I just need

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Speaker 2: to write a song to just get something off my

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Speaker 2: want anybody to ever hear it.

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Speaker 3: You're like name dropping like churs, I hate you. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're fourteen over now?

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Speaker 1: No, literally, Well I read something that made me feel

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Speaker 1: good because I'm one of them. It says you really

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Speaker 1: love the gays.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I do.

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Speaker 3: Why do you hate the straits?

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Speaker 1: She hates the traits? The bisexual? Okay, so here they're

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Speaker 1: my favorite. No, it beats them. No, it's better than them.

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Speaker 1: My whole team is gay. They're all gay. They are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's my whole team.

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Speaker 1: But why is that?

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Speaker 2: Because they honestly just have the best opinions on things.

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Speaker 1: Look at I'm dressed, hello, rethake that it's.

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Speaker 2: Just the no filter, Like if I walk out and

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Speaker 2: I look bad, like you look awful, I like that.

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Speaker 2: It's really refreshing.

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Speaker 1: My favorite is you have a mirror at home. Right.

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Speaker 1: We're so happy for you again. You were m v

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Speaker 1: P voted MVP at arjingle Ball Concerts. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: great to have you there, So feel free to come

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Speaker 1: back so close to what. Of course it's ready for you,

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Speaker 1: Now go find it. I'm gonna play two to Tate

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Speaker 1: McCrae too. We call it. Okay, should we start with

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Speaker 1: sports car and then I'll do a little revolving door

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Speaker 1: or should we do little revolving door and then play

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Speaker 1: a little sports.

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Speaker 2: Let's see that.

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Speaker 3: So decisive, that's the way.

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Speaker 1: Just just should and make a decision. Take the prey

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Speaker 1: revomding doing

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Speaker 2: Hmm