1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: Now the song is terrible. Really, this song is bad. Yes, 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: this gotta be one of the worst songs they played. 3 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: What I don't know maybe, Oh man, this is really 4 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: really bad. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 3: Now you clearly like the song, no you think of hey, 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: hello man, you take your pills today? 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: No, I do not like this. No offense to the singer, 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: but it kind of sounds like total crap. 9 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: Good morning, Swirl and welcome to the Now Dunks podcast 10 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, January fourteenth. Back to 11 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: the Classic Factory on J Skeeves rolling with the bass Master, 12 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: revend end Lips, Trey Kirby. Hey hey, we got the 13 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: international man of mystery taking it to the max. Leelis 14 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: Friend Lee and the last but not least making all 15 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: of this magic happen. JD. Hello Darius and here we 16 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: are JD working overtime. This guy's cashing big checks. Fantastic work. 17 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: JD. 18 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: Shout out to the stream team joining us live on 19 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 3: YouTube this morning. Yeah, we were putting in work yesterday 20 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: hit a big milestone. We eclipsed twenty five thousand subscribers 21 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: on our YouTube channel, So thank you, thank you, thank you. 22 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: Please continue to like and comment and subscribe to our 23 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: VIDs into the channel as promised for hitting twenty five k. 24 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 3: Later in this show, we're gonna be dropping Big Beef 25 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: Volume one. Oh yeah, I'm still not really sure what 26 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: that means. TK has a better idea, but we're gonna 27 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: drop that later in this show, Big Beef Volume one 28 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: for hitting twenty five k and our next goal? What 29 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: is our next goal? 30 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: Now? 31 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: Is it just do we just go you know, thirty k? 32 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: Or do we we go away in the future for 33 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: fifty K, one hundred k? Where are we going? 34 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 5: It's like a birthday. It's only now in the ten year. 35 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 5: Oh the ten you know number ten milestone, So thirty, forty, fifty, sixty, seventy, etc. 36 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: All right, Okay, thirty is our next milestone to hit, 37 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: so help us get there. Share the show, subscribe to 38 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: us on YouTube. Okay, email us your questions and your 39 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: comments too. To No Dunks at the Athletic dot Com. 40 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: We actually stepped on the beach yesterday and right near 41 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: the end of that Murphy's slash No Dunk's Law, just 42 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 3: as Lee was singing a slim, dusty like country song, 43 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 3: the hardened news broke. I mean it was wild. It 44 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: actually happened right there while we were wrapping up each step, 45 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: and so we quickly grabbed our towel, we dried off, 46 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 3: and we recorded an emergency podcast reacting to the heart 47 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: and trade. That's up on YouTube, that's in your podcast feed. 48 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 3: Hopefully you've already had a chance to listen or watch that. 49 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: But I know that some of you who just listen 50 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: to the No Dunks podcast, you might be a little confused. 51 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 3: Where is Wednesday's Beach step In podcast. It's on our 52 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 3: YouTube channel, but it's not in the podcast feed. Good eye, 53 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: good catch. I know some of you were tweeting that 54 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: in that just got lost in the shuffle how to 55 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: take a little back seat because of the hard to 56 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: trade the emergency podcast. But we're going to be dropping 57 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: Wednesday's Beach step In podcast in your podcast feed later today, 58 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: so don't you worry. You will hear Lee Ellis sing 59 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: a country song. I mean it's incredible, and I think 60 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: it was you TK in our slack channel this morning. 61 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: You know we've got big B Volume one for hitting 62 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: twenty five k if or when we hit fifty k. 63 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: I think we actually got to produce a music video 64 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: of Lee's slim dusty like country song. I think that 65 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: that seems fair. JD. I know it's more work for you, 66 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: but the fifty k is a while away. 67 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm always rewarded with more work, so it's 68 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 6: a famar I work the better I'm doing. 69 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 5: Apparently Jedi's only happy when he's miserable doing more work. 70 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: That's it, That's all it is. You're not actually wrong 71 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: with that. So thanks to everybody that joined us live 72 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 3: or watched our Harden Emergency podcast on YouTube too. I 73 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: know it's the best we've done in terms of numbers, 74 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 3: so thank you so much. Finally, go grab yourself some 75 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 3: sweet No Dunks merch at No Dunks dot Com. Hoodies, 76 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: t shirts, mugs are available, and we're working on some 77 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: new things right now. Okay, we're gonna touch on a 78 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 3: few of the games from last night, but let's do 79 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: like a sort of James Harden trade fallout here. Now 80 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: we've had a little time to think about it some more. 81 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: Like I said, we got the emergency podcast, but now 82 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: you've been able to step back really think about it 83 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: for all four teams, and maybe you've read some things 84 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: or listened even to some other podcasts. We know that 85 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: the Rockets finally traded Harden to the Nets on Wednesday. 86 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 3: They secured a whopping for future first round draft picks 87 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 3: and for future pick swaps, all unprotected in a four 88 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: team deal that also included the Pacers in Calves. So again, 89 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: I highly recommend you listen or watch the emergency podcast. 90 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: But a few questions for you guys here as we 91 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: sort of wrapped us up in a weird way. First 92 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: one is trade biggest winner? Okay, I know you were 93 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 3: pretty high on everybody, but if you had to pick 94 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 3: maybe one be at a team, a player, wherever angle 95 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: you want, who's the biggest winner from this hard and blockbuster. 96 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I went Magic Johnson yesterday, skeets. I love 97 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: this trade for all four teams, and really I do 98 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: think this for a fourteen trade that includes a legitimate 99 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: superstar in his prime, that includes eight draft picks, you know, 100 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: I mean, consider a swap what you want to call it, 101 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: But it includes a whole bunch of assets for this 102 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: massive of a trade, it's pretty fair all around. I 103 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: put up a poll on our Twitter page at No 104 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: Dunsey who won the trade? Twenty five percent to the Nets, 105 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: thirty percent to the Rockets twenty two percent to the Pacers, 106 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: twenty two percent to the Calves. It's pretty fair. You 107 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: even go and read like Zach Harper's trade grades on 108 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: the athletic and he is giving everybody's a's and bs. 109 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: So this was incredible that this trade ended up so 110 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: fair for all these teams. But if I'm picking an 111 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: ultimate winner, I'm a lot like our voters on the 112 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: No Dunks pull. You got to be impressed with the Rockets. 113 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: Their turnaround since October has been incredible. Actually, it was 114 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: a bummer end to the era with James Harden, with 115 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: Darryl Moury, with Mike D'Antoni. That Rockets team that flamed 116 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: out in the playoffs, they had no picks. Everybody on 117 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: the team is as tall as I am. Harden and Westbrook, 118 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: two guys who were All Stars, they both want out. 119 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: Now we look three months later, they've got a competitive team. 120 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: They've got motivated John Wall who wants the lead. Victor 121 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: Oladipo is going to be playing in the biggest market 122 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: he's been in, trying to re establish his place in 123 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: the NBA hierarchy. They've got a lot of guys playing 124 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: to prove others wrong. The question is can they unite 125 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: around that make the whole better than the some of 126 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: the parts. Only time will tell, But that's missing the 127 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: mushrooms for the Treaties, Skeets, all the Rockets stuff. 128 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: You see. 129 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: Now it doesn't matter at all. You gotta dig deeper. 130 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: They are still in rebuild mode, and that's why they 131 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: chose this package from the Nets over Ben Simmons, because 132 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: they needed to get those picks back because now the 133 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: Rockets actually have a future. Picks. They don't win chips, 134 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: but neither did the Rockets. They took massive swings at 135 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: the title. They kept trying everything they could to try 136 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: and topple the Warriors or Lebron's Lakers, whoever it would be. 137 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: They came to a disastrous and and that can really 138 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: leave a franchise buried for years. Making trades like that 139 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: that where you're jeopardizing the future. People are worried about 140 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: that happening with the Nets, obviously now that they don't 141 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: have picks. Instead, they've got a solid team, they've got 142 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: picks they can use or trade, and there's a chance 143 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: that the picks turn really good down the line, depending 144 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: how things go with the Nets. Obviously the Rockets are 145 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: worse now than they were if they have James Harden 146 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: playing at the peak of his powers. But they were 147 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 1: a decaying team and now you can see the Seeds 148 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: of Life good stuff by Raphael Stone. 149 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like there's a lot of a's, a minuses, 150 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: even some A plus's for the Rockets in terms of 151 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: trading this grade and how they made out. Do you 152 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: agree with Trey Leelee? Like, the question is did Houston 153 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: get Knough? I think that's one question, And then the 154 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: other side is would they have been better off going 155 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: the Ben Simmons route instead of all these picks? You know, 156 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: come twenty twenty seven, would you rather have a Ben 157 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: Simmons less picks moving forward? So what's your tea on that? 158 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 5: Well? No, I think they probably made the right decision 159 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 5: because now they have got something to build towards with 160 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 5: the future, and Ben Simmons was probably the best player 161 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 5: they could have gotten in return, but they chose not 162 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 5: to go with that path, and it was perhaps because 163 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 5: the Sixers didn't have those extra draft assets that they 164 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 5: were looking at. So I think again with the Houston 165 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 5: Rockets when their season ended last year, there last season 166 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 5: it was like, man, what is the future for this 167 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 5: team because they simply aren't a contender. They've got a big, 168 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 5: clogged up cap sheet and they have no future assets 169 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 5: and now all of that is basically gone. They've got 170 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 5: some good, talented players and they've got these draft picks 171 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 5: now going forward. So this season it's hard to see 172 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 5: really what the ceiling is for the Rockets. I mean, 173 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 5: John Wall has been okay, book, you sort of struggled 174 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 5: a little bit. I think there's probably still a move 175 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 5: or two to be made there. I think PJ. Tuck 176 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 5: is probably not on this roster by the end of 177 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 5: the season, so they could be still some move there. 178 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 5: But I think now raphae Elstone clearly has a blueprint 179 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 5: for what he wants for this team in the future, 180 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 5: and I think that's really good. And whether or not 181 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 5: Victor oladiepo is a part of that, we're going to 182 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 5: find out, you know, by the end of this season. 183 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 5: Of course, if Victor ola Depot is a star player 184 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 5: at his age still, then they've got, you know, they've 185 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 5: got some experienced players, and then they can use these 186 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 5: draft picks to why they start rebuilding there or use 187 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 5: them to perhaps try to make a trade and get 188 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 5: another guy who's you know, on the way up as well. 189 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 5: So there's certainly a lot of options and a bit 190 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 5: more hope for the Rockets than what they had when 191 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 5: last season ended, because it was unfortunately the same sort 192 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 5: of story with them, you know, promising signs during the 193 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 5: season at times, but come playoff time they flamed out 194 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 5: pretty easily, and it was just you just sort of 195 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 5: felt that that was the end of the James Harden 196 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 5: run there in Houston, really because they had tried with 197 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 5: Dwight Howd, they tried with Chris Paul, they tried with 198 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 5: Russell Westbrook, and the result ultimately was the same that 199 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 5: they just weren't able to get to a championship and 200 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 5: compete for it. Now they were very close. Of course, 201 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 5: we all talked about the Chris Paul hamstring injury in 202 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 5: two thousand and eighteen. That was and you know that 203 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 5: that could have changed the entire narrative around not just 204 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 5: James Harden, but Chris Paul and the Houston Rockets. But now, 205 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 5: unfortunately all we remember is that they flamed out in 206 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 5: the playoffs and that's the way it is. So James 207 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 5: Harden gets a fresh start to go to Brooklyn where 208 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 5: he's automatically on a contending team. He has to sort 209 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 5: of rehab not just his game but his image a 210 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 5: little bit because he's taken a bit of a battering here. 211 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 3: But you know, lean into it. Harden be the heel baby. Well, 212 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: I compared the nets with now Katy Cairie and Harden 213 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: last late to nWo. 214 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 5: Well, listen, people love the Hill. Listen, Listen you can. 215 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 5: You can take that path if you like. And if 216 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 5: they win ultimately, that's all that counts at the end 217 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 5: of the day. Like James Harden won't care if they 218 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 5: win the championship, but if this is, if this situation 219 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 5: can't motivate him, then there's really not much hope for 220 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 5: him really, because he's playing with a former teammate. Again, 221 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 5: we talked about that there's only a few guys in 222 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 5: the league that carry the status of a KD and 223 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 5: I think that's Lebron, I think Steph Curry to a degree, 224 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 5: Kawhi maybe I'm not so sure, but anyway, the point 225 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 5: being that James Harden's going there and it's like, Okay, 226 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 5: there's no question here that Kevin Durant is the team leader. 227 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 5: And I will have to adjust his game. You know, 228 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 5: it's a good problem here for Steve Nash to have 229 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 5: because you always want a lot of talent on your roster, 230 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 5: and they have that now, certainly offensively. And now it's 231 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 5: just up to them to try to make it all work. 232 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 5: And it's going to be not just on the coach, 233 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 5: but it's going to be on James Harden, Kyrie Irving 234 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 5: and Kevin Durant to make it work. And I think 235 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 5: they can. But of course we won't know until we 236 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 5: actually see all those three out on the court, which 237 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 5: we might not see for a while. Who knows when 238 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 5: we're going to see those three together, but. 239 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, who knows. I mean, I saw Zach Low 240 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: ask a simple question trade did Brooklyn improve their championship 241 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: odds enough to justify mortgaging their future? And that's just 242 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: simply put, and I think the right way to come 243 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: about it. Do you think they have in acquiring James 244 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: Harden for this season and I guess even next season 245 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: because he is under contract? What do you think? 246 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: I do think? 247 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 4: So? 248 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: I said preseason, whichever team trades for James Harden's going 249 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: to win the title. That's still going to be the case, 250 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: But I still feel pretty confident because James Harden when 251 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: he's engaged, even if he's not giving it as all 252 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: as on the defensive end, which is usually the case, 253 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: the teams are awesome. We always worry about James Harden 254 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: fitting in with other players, but for the past five seasons, 255 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: the lowest his offensive has been is number seven in 256 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: the league. Are you kidding me? He plays with high 257 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: usage guys all the time, and the offenses are always great. 258 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to figure out how to play defense. 259 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: They've been actually okay so far this season. Obviously that 260 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: was with Jared Allen in the mix. They're going to 261 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: need somebody to rebound. That seems to be the biggest 262 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: issue to meet with the Nets right now is that 263 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: on the defensive glass, they can't necessarily end possessions unless 264 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan's getting busy. But considering we don't know what's 265 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: going to be going on with Kyrie Irving this season, 266 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: if he's going to be returning to the Nets, how 267 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: engaged he is with the team, they have more than 268 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving insurance. They added a player who is higher 269 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: in the pecking order than Kyrie Irving, So yeah, I mean, 270 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: if you're looking at it as from a standpoint where 271 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: they lost a bunch of their role players, no doubt 272 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: about if there's not as much depth in Brooklyn now, 273 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: But if you're looking at it as they lost one 274 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: of their stars and now they added a bigger star, 275 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: it's huge. 276 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: Man. 277 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: I do think that they are. They're at least there 278 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: with the Bucks for best team in the Eastern Conference. 279 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: We'll see how everything gels for those teams. The Bucks 280 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: have been playing pretty well lately, so it's gonna be 281 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: fun to watch. It's gonna be interesting to see how 282 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: they actually look together on the court, and it's gonna 283 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: be interesting to see what kind of player Harden is. 284 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: Is he gonna be engaged on both ends of the 285 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: ball at least to try and rehab his image for 286 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: half of a season, three quarters of a season, you 287 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: would hope so. And if you're then that's you're desperately 288 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: hoping so. 289 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. And in talking about the big winners from this 290 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: blockbuster trade, I don't want to gloss over the two 291 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: other teams involved because we were high on them on 292 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: the Emergency podcast, and most are the Pacers for you know, 293 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 3: just popping their head in here going, hey, what's going on. Oh, 294 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: we'll take care of some you guys want all the people. 295 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: He's not sticking around here. We know he's leaving. Yeah, 296 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 3: we'll take LeVert in that great deal and sort of 297 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 3: plug him into our system. And then the Calves in 298 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 3: for giving up honestly nothing, get a really young promising center. Now, yeah, 299 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: they have ten centers on their roster. They probably have 300 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 3: some moves still to make. But Jared Allen fitting the 301 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 3: timeline the lead of the Sexlan backcourt there makes a 302 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: lot of sense and Ocral and I love it. I 303 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: love what the Pacers did, I love what the Caves is. 304 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: So I also want to give them sort of like 305 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 3: a winner of this trade. I mean a good grade. 306 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: I think both of them would get an E in 307 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 3: my books. Would you agree, Yeah? Absolutely. 308 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 5: I mean usually in a trade there's one team that 309 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 5: kind of you feel gets screwed over. But it doesn't 310 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 5: feel like that at all. I think the Calves and 311 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 5: the Pacers absolutely were like, yeah, we'll take those two 312 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 5: young stars off the nets for giving up guys who 313 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 5: basically aren't a part of our future here anyway. You know, 314 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 5: the other depot situation had kind of played out. We 315 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 5: weren't sure that that was one hundred percent of the case, 316 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 5: but certainly felt like that. And then for the Calves, 317 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 5: it's like, yeah, I wonder now what that next move 318 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 5: is because I think it's probably Drummond and or Kevin Love. 319 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 5: They're the most valuable assets they have, and I just 320 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 5: don't think those guys are a part of the future, 321 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 5: whereas I think Jared Allen probably is. Maybe it's Allan, 322 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 5: maybe he has more appeal out there, who knows, But 323 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 5: certainly things are also looking up now in Cleveland because 324 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 5: it's been a lean couple of years, as it tends 325 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 5: to be when Lebron decides to leave. But you know 326 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 5: that back court, though they're both injured at mon we've 327 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 5: got to get those back on the court, Colin Sexton 328 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 5: and Darius Gallen because they got off to a good start. 329 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 5: But yeah, so I think it's good if you're the 330 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 5: Cavs right now, you're going, wow, yesterday we didn't realize 331 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 5: we were going to get a young player with a 332 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 5: lot of upside. There a lot of potential to add 333 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 5: to our course. So this is a great day for them. 334 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, in a weird way, Lebron helped the Cavaliers in 335 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: this situation by embarrassing the Rockets in back to back games, 336 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: forcing Harden to go to that press conference pissed off 337 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: and calling everybody out. And that was the end of it. 338 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: I mean literally, the Lakers and Lebron broke up, officially 339 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: broke up, hardened in the Rockets with him moving on. Okay, 340 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: let's get to biggest loser. We're you know, we're positive 341 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: pizza with all of these teams, but come on, somebody's 342 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: got to be a loser in the mix here. So Lee, 343 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: get us started. Who is a team player or whatever? 344 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, sifting through the rubble, you are sort of 345 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 5: looking at one of the teams that was involved in 346 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 5: the trade. But I'm actually gotting to not pick one 347 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 5: of those teams. I'm going to go with Philadelphia because 348 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 5: yesterday they basically said to the league, we're choosing Joel 349 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 5: Embiid over Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons, we are prepared to 350 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 5: trade him for James Harden, and then it fell through. 351 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 5: So where does this now leave that relationship between Simmons 352 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 5: and Philadelphia Because okay, they didn't trade him yesterday, but 353 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 5: clearly he's available if if someone wants to make a 354 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 5: push to try to get Ben Simmons, and I think 355 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 5: that now is going to be a little bit tough 356 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 5: because Ben Simmons is a sensitive guy. I know he's 357 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 5: fallen out with Basketball Australia in the past. And now 358 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 5: clearly the franchiser said, well, we're you know, yeah, I mean, 359 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 5: James Harden's a good player, of course, you know, so 360 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 5: you're not. We're not just sort of trying to trade 361 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 5: you away for anybody. Yeah, but we tried to trade 362 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 5: you and it didn't work. So now it's kind of like, oh, 363 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 5: we have to put that toothpaste back in the jube. 364 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 5: And I'm not so sure it's going to be too 365 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 5: easy for them because it's basically they played a hand 366 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 5: yesterday that I think they only really wanted to play 367 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 5: if it was going to if they were going to 368 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 5: go through with it, and now they didn't. So it's 369 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 5: kind of like, oh, okay, so you know what is 370 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 5: what does Ben Simmons say to Daryl More now? So 371 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 5: am I on the trading block or am I off 372 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 5: the trading block? Because I think the fact that they 373 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 5: were prepared to deal him yesterday means that they are 374 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 5: considering shopping him around and that he is not necessarily 375 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 5: a part of their long term future, and that can 376 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 5: create a very awkward situation. Maybe they just, you know what, 377 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 5: maybe Darren Morris says, listen, it's a business. Yet we 378 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 5: tried to trade. It didn't happen, but that doesn't mean 379 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 5: we are shopping you around. And Ben Simmons goes, Okay, 380 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 5: I can accept that, but I just sort of feel 381 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 5: it's going to be a little bit awkward there. And Philadelphia, 382 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 5: things got off to a really good start. They dropped 383 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 5: a couple of games there, and then we saw Ben 384 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 5: Simmons not play his best performance the other night when 385 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 5: it certainly felt like something was going on with him. 386 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 5: And now this is probably only going to make the 387 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 5: situation a little bit more hostile there. 388 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: So are you saying that if Ben Simmons and Joel 389 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: Embiid are indeed living in the same apartment, in the 390 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 3: same house, they had bunk beds, that Ben Simmons got 391 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: up a little and he took his blanket and he's like, 392 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to go to sleep on the coach. He 393 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 3: just doesn't want to even be in the same room 394 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: because it's a little Awkwarom. 395 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I don't think he's angry at Joel Embiid. 396 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 5: I just think, you know, it's that franchise, and and 397 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 5: of course Darryl Moore is the person there. And I 398 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 5: remember now I cut, you know, two weeks ago, three 399 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 5: weeks so who knows when Mark Stein said, you know, 400 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 5: the Philadelphia seventy Sixers aren't prepared to train Ben Simmons 401 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 5: for now. You know, the Houston Rockets aren't prepared to 402 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 5: trade James Harden to Philadelphia for now. Even just then, 403 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 5: I guess that's when the conversation started going up, because 404 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 5: you know, Mark Stein one of the most connected guys 405 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 5: in the business. I'm sure people were like, let's just 406 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 5: wait and see how the season goes. Let's just see 407 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 5: what the market is like for James Harden. 408 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: Let's see how Harden plays, let's see's attitude exactly. 409 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 5: And then the Sixers must have said, all right, let's 410 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 5: make this deal. And then and then they fell through 411 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 5: because it looked like that's what the deal was going 412 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 5: to be yesterday until the Mets picked up and said, 413 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 5: we'll give you all these future assets and some young talent. 414 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 5: So I think the Sixers come out of this one 415 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 5: with a bit of a black eye. 416 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair, And Trey, I mean, like you said 417 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: in the preseason, I'm glad you reminded me. You said, 418 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 3: whoever trades for Hoen is going to win the title. 419 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: So is it fair to say that you think maybe 420 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: the Sixers are a bit of a loser in this 421 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 3: if you know, whatever they got caught up on giving 422 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: Oh we don't want to put Tyres Maxie in the 423 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 3: mix or Tibel or whatever it is, or so many picks, 424 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 3: you know, is that fair to say that you would 425 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 3: have them as a mini loser in this. 426 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm with Lee on everything he said. Plus, now they've 427 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: got to beat James Harden in the Eastern Conference. It's 428 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: kind of a double whammy, right, Like the Sixers were 429 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: perhaps behind the Nets coming into yesterday. I guess that's debatable. 430 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: You know, the Sixers have been playing really well, but 431 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: we've seen the Nets look awesome when they were actually 432 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: at full strength. So I guess that one's probably a 433 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: toss up. But now the six or the Nets one 434 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: the James Harden sweepstake, So I think that the Nets 435 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: are certainly ahead of the Sixers and the Sixers now 436 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: have to deal with the fallout of if there's any 437 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: sort of lingering resentment with being in trade talks. I 438 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: don't know if that's going to be the case. Only 439 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: time will tell, but it's shades of when the Cleveland 440 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: Cavaliers would not put JJ Hixon in a trade for 441 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: Amari Staudemeier. I understand you like your young players and 442 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: you like to see the way that they're going to grow, 443 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: but you got to give up something to get something good, 444 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: and giving up Ben Simmons is a lot to begin with. 445 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: Throwing in your young guys as even more to begin with. 446 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: But if you're getting an MVP caliber player that vaults 447 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: you to the top of the conference, some teams are 448 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: interested in that and some teams aren't. We saw Darryl 449 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: Moury say, okay, I want to slow play this here. 450 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: Maybe we can pull off Bradley Beal trade in the future. 451 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: Maybe they find a way to get Zach Lavine out 452 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: of Chicago alongside Ben Simmons, who knows what it's gonna be. 453 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: There are still moves that the Sixers can make, but 454 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: as of right now, you know the Sixers are behind 455 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: the nets for me, So yeah, They're definitely a mini loser. 456 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 3: Cliche warning though, sometimes the best trades are the ones 457 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 3: you don't make. Hey, all right, yeah, well the Warriors 458 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: come to mind with Klay Thompson, you know, not trading 459 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 3: him of course to Kevin Love. I remember us talking 460 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 3: about that at the time, way back when. But uh yeah, 461 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 3: I hear you guys are saying with the Sixers. It's 462 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 3: a great point too, that you are gonna, in theory, 463 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: have to go through the Brooklyn Nets, and they did 464 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 3: just add James Hardtt. Now I think Darryl Mory's got, 465 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 3: you know, a Plan B and a Plan C probably 466 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: in play, you know, after they struck out if you 467 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 3: want to call it that on Harden and maybe it 468 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: is Beal and maybe that ends out working better for them. 469 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: But you know, right now, in this moment, I'm with you, guys, 470 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 3: I think also a loser in this. I think it 471 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 3: might be Kyrie Irving. I know you guys are very 472 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 3: very high on what the Nets can do. They might 473 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 3: score one hundred and fifty points a game, stopping people 474 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: will be something else. But he is the one in 475 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: the mix here, right that is gonna have to sacrifice. 476 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 3: It's not gonna be Durant. It's Durant's team. Harden's gonna 477 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 3: be hardened. You know, he can, he can, He's not 478 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: gonna change. I think he's gonna get back to the 479 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 3: Harden of Old and he's gonna be scoring, you know, 480 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: the thirty and the fifteen and stuff like that. But 481 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 3: Kyrie in this mix, if he's even there, because we 482 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 3: don't really know what's going on and what his timeline 483 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: is coming back to this team. Always with these weird 484 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 3: little supers team super teams, especially the three guys, someone 485 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: has to sacrifice, usually Lee. It's usually a big guy. Sorry, Trey, 486 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: I know you hate to hear that, but it's usually 487 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: Chris Bosh, Kevin Love. 488 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: Those were the guys, and I think man bias runs wild. 489 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, And not only did they have to sacrifice, 490 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 3: I would also argue they were very easily the scapegoats. 491 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: When things don't go smoothly right from the jump. Both 492 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 3: of those guys, you know, raked for what they weren't 493 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 3: doing or were doing or whatever, right and unfairly in 494 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 3: most instances. So will Kyrie be that guy in this 495 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 3: mix here? If you know they start slowly? I think so, 496 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: And that sucks for him, I would think. But I 497 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: think in this weird setup here, I think he's gonna 498 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 3: be the one that has to sacrifice. I will be 499 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: bade the scapegoat. I don't know if you agree with. 500 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 5: That, Leately, I honestly just don't know, because I just 501 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 5: don't know what to expect that of Kyrie having right now, 502 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 5: whether or not he's coming back. He apparently is landing 503 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 5: on coming back to the team, and he's the point god, 504 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 5: you know, so is he. 505 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: I think this team, in my opinion, it'd be James hard. 506 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 5: But see but see, I can't I can't see James 507 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 5: Hadden coming to team and Steve Nash saying Okay, James, 508 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 5: you're the point god for day one here. I think 509 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 5: it's going to be like, Okay, James, Kyrie is a 510 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 5: point guard. Kevin's our offensive, our first threat, and I 511 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 5: need you to be playing off the ball at the start. 512 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: I just we're comfortable with Kyrie, honestly, sort of. 513 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. But having that conversation though with Kyrie, Yeah, that's 514 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 5: what I'm talking about. 515 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: I think I said last night day is anyone concerned 516 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: about Kyrie being the third fiddle on a team. 517 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, and a second guy on a Lebron team 518 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 5: that maybe that is their long term hope there or 519 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 5: to later in the season. That's what Steve national saw 520 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 5: Mark is doing. But I don't think that happens at 521 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 5: the start. I think I think they try to appease 522 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 5: Kyrie at the start and say, listen, we're not bumping 523 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 5: you out. You're still our point guard. Let's let's fit 524 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 5: James into that team first, rather than fit you into 525 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 5: you in behind James, because I think that will cause 526 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 5: I can see a situation where Kyrie kind of pouts 527 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 5: his way out almost of Brooklyn and saying, listen, this 528 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 5: is my team after Kevin. Does he even think it's 529 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 5: Kevin Durant's team. That's the question there with Kyrie, because 530 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 5: how many superstars voluntarily move away from playing with Lebron James. 531 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 5: Only one that I know, and that's Kyrie Irving. He's like, 532 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 5: I don't want to play with Lebron James, which is 533 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 5: crazy because you look at a situation like Anthony Davis 534 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 5: who had seven rough years in New Orleans and he 535 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 5: was like, I'm desperate to play with a legitimate superstar. Well, 536 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 5: now Kyrie James and Kevin Durant have two legit superstars 537 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 5: on their team in their prime ish areas there, So 538 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 5: in theory, this should work perfectly because they should all sacrifice. 539 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 3: A little bit for the greater good. 540 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 5: They'll all still average, you know, twenty twenty five a 541 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 5: game if they choose to, and they can all benefit 542 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 5: from this relationship. But how much Who's prepared to put 543 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 5: their ego to the side at the start? Who's prepared 544 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 5: to be the guy like, you know what, fine, I'll 545 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 5: adjust my game a little bit. I don't think Kevin 546 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 5: Durant has to because he's the legit superstar. I think 547 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 5: Kyrie and James Harden both have to find a little 548 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 5: bit of middle ground there. But both of them are 549 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 5: kind of stubborn, so you know, good luck, Steve Nash. 550 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, LOOI this is what makes this fascinating. And you said, 551 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: like the whole thing with like uh okay, Harding comes 552 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: in and he's got to work with Katie and Kyrie. 553 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 3: But here's the funny part to that, the weird wrinkle, 554 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 3: he's not there. It's very likely that we can see 555 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: James Harden in a nets uniform playing with KD before 556 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: even Kyrie comes back. And then I think that makes 557 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: even a weirder dynamic trey because you know who's to say, Well, Harden, 558 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 3: Kdre are kicking ass here together for a game or two, 559 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: and then Kyrie's coming into the mix, Well, now we 560 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: gotta fold you in and worry about you. 561 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 4: I don't know. 562 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: I think it's a this whole thing. Him being away 563 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 3: from the team makes already a potentially volatile you know 564 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 3: set up here with these three guys, even crazier in 565 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: terms of just the timeline of it all. 566 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: I think, oh, no doubt about it. There's volatile personalities 567 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: in that locker room. But I'm kind of not even 568 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: factoring Kyrie Irving into the scenario for the Nets right now. 569 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: If he comes back, I think there are definitely gonna 570 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: have things to address. They're gonna have massive off court 571 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: things to address with Kyrie Irving regardless of what happens. 572 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: So for me, I'm looking at this team as Kevin 573 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: Durant and James Harden and that is enough in the 574 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference. I think, especially if they're able to do 575 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: something on the buyout market, get a rebounder, maybe get 576 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: another big guy who knows who they're gonna be able 577 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: to pick up once you know, random veterans have been released. 578 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: Maybe they figure out a way to get Tyson Chandler's 579 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: body working again and he can give him some the 580 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: minutes banging around in there or something like that. But 581 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: for me, right now, I'm looking at this as Kevin 582 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: Durant's team. James Harden is coming in to be the 583 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: number two. And if they're able to add Kyrie and 584 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: he's able to suffer a little ego death and play 585 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: alongside Katie and James Harden, They're gonna be unstoppable. They're 586 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: gonna be unstoppable. 587 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 3: An all Star team. 588 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: That's gonna be an all Star team. And I mean Harden, 589 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: for as much as he doesn't do when he's away 590 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 1: from the ball, he's still an awesome catch and shoots 591 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: shooter right like you're not just leaving him standing over there. 592 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: When Katie and Kyrie are handling the ball. Whatever they 593 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: go for a small ball lineup, it's gonna be fire 594 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: Kad Kyrie, like Katie playing the five, rebounding, flying around 595 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: out there. It's gonna be a tough team to stop. 596 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: And I cannot wait. There's news coming out now. James 597 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: Harden gonna be wearing number thirteen for the Brooklyn Nets. 598 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: Got it from Landry sham At people like is Landry 599 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: Shama gonna give that up? Come on, y'all, that's what 600 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: happens in the NBA. I'm gonna order one of those 601 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: tight eye jerseys. E. I don't know what have we 602 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: got about another hour here, so sixty minutes catch me 603 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: on the NBA store. 604 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 3: Wow, I'm sure you can buy them already for sure. 605 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 606 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 3: We talked about this really briefly last night on the 607 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 3: Emergency podcast. If this situation with Kyrie wasn't happening right now, 608 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 3: and let's just say he had played the entire season 609 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: like with KD and Katie didn't have to miss games, Like, 610 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 3: does this trade happen with the Nets if Brooklyn is 611 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 3: ten and three instead of like going into last night's 612 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: before the trade, you know, six and six. I think 613 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: that's interesting. Or because of what's happening with Kyrie and 614 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 3: the unknown, are the Nets more inclined to like, well 615 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: we geez, I mean we got Kad right now in 616 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: his prime, Like we can't waste this, so let's go 617 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 3: all in on hard And I just wonder if that 618 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 3: factored in here and you're right about Brooklyn. Three open 619 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: roster spots, mid level exception, probably gonna have a disabled 620 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: player exception from Dinwinny season ending injury. So what will 621 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: they do and how creative can they got to build 622 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,959 Speaker 3: out the roster which is still still fine. I think 623 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 3: you're asking a lot right now from DeAndre Jordan. I 624 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: mean you're asking from him to to do things he 625 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 3: can do in rebound and play some defense. So that's 626 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: falling off Joe Harris. He slots in basically perfect with 627 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 3: any team. I mean, he want a three point shooter 628 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 3: out there, give you a little D and then is Shamitt, 629 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 3: Jeff Green, Bruce Brown and TLC. That's basically your bench. 630 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 3: It's up to you if you're gonna put you know, 631 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 3: Ciosa and Tyler Johnson in there as well. Is that 632 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: deep enough flee or does it even matter? I mean, 633 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 3: if the three superstars are clicking the way we think 634 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: they could, if they're all out there. Like I had 635 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: a bet with Task last night that the Nets will 636 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: not win the Eastern Conference this season, and Task has 637 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 3: taken it, and a lot of people are like they 638 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: think they're the best team, but you know, we saw 639 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: this was with Steve Nash before on the cover with 640 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: Dwight Howard and Kobe Bryant. You know, things can turn 641 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 3: sour quickly. So it's like, you know, you build a 642 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 3: super team, you do it in two K and you 643 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 3: win a championship. In real life it works a little differently. 644 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: So I'm still feel pretty good about this back because 645 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 3: there are other good teams in the Eastern Conference too, 646 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 3: that could beat them in a seven game series. 647 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 5: Kevin Durant, it's Kevin Durant, basically, it's up to him. 648 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 5: I think he's just so talented and he's so good 649 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 5: that who can stop him in the Eastern Conference. These 650 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 5: other guys Kyrie and James Harden do have a little 651 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 5: bit of question marks around them, But Kevin Durant doesn't, 652 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 5: you know, once he's in the playoffs, once he's performing, 653 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 5: he is a superstar who can just change the course 654 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 5: of any game or any series. The Milwaukee Bucks probably, 655 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 5: you know, just sort of thinking out aloud here, probably 656 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 5: still have the best team overall, probably, but they've also 657 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 5: got some questions come playoff time, you know, And Kevin 658 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 5: Durant doesn't have questions in the playoffs. He performs, He's 659 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 5: a two time Finals MVP. He's been the best player 660 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 5: on the court several times in the playoffs and in 661 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 5: the finals, So all those other things do sort of 662 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 5: slot in behind Kevin Durant, you know. And so far, 663 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 5: I mean, obviously a lot of Nets games this season, 664 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 5: and I just cannot believe how good he looks out 665 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 5: on the court and how easily he's moving around. Coming 666 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 5: off and Achilles injury, which is sometimes an injury that 667 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 5: devastates a player and really does sort of shorten their career. Instead, 668 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 5: it looks like he, you know what, he took a 669 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 5: year off just to sort of rest and refresh, and 670 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 5: now it looks fantastic out there. So as long as 671 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 5: Kevin Durant's on that roster, I think the Nets the 672 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 5: toughest team probably to beat in the Eastern Conference. Again, 673 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 5: there's some other good teams. Boston. We obviously Boston played 674 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 5: for about three months. It fields like they just yeah, 675 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 5: I've been playing. 676 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 3: So now the Celtics went to the top of the 677 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: East standings a week, you know. 678 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 5: And again the Bucks, the Bucks are a proven team 679 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 5: to be great in the regular season. Yeah, they've got 680 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 5: some questions in the playoffs, but yeah, Kevin Durant for me, 681 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 5: just sort of elevates Brooklyn sort of to that that 682 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 5: echelon where it's like, can you beat a Kevin Durant 683 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 5: lead team, and not a lot of teams can do that. 684 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 3: Biggest question you have about this entire deal, Trey, do you. 685 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: Think that this is going to go down as the 686 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: hardened tread. We already have one hardened trade and it 687 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: was a game changer in the NBA, trading from Lahoma 688 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: City Thunder to the Houston Rockets. The Thunder went to 689 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: the Finals in twenty twelve. James Harden was a key 690 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: piece of that team. The next year he was gone, 691 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: the Rockets became contenders, Harden became an MVP caliber player, 692 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: the Thunder started to fall apart, which led to the 693 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: rise of the Kevin Durant Warriors. That was a huge 694 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: moment in NBA history. We still talk about that nine 695 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: year old trade to this day. Is this going to 696 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: be the Harden trade? Though? Another He's now an MVP, 697 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: He's forming another super team. We have a complete rebuilding 698 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: project in the Houston Rockets. And then yes, we do 699 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: have the Pacers and Calves who hopped in on this 700 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: deal did a great job to got what to get 701 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: what they got, but probably not huge in the grand 702 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: scheme of things. Or is this going to go down 703 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: in history as the Dwight Howard to the Lakers trade 704 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: where we talked all about Dwight Howard and the Lakers 705 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: and the Sixers getting Andrew Biningham back, and probably the 706 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: best deal that anybody got out of that was Nikola 707 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: Vucevic going too the Magic and it wasn't a game 708 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: changer for the NBA. I kind of would lean towards 709 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: the other side of it. I do think that this 710 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: is gonna be a trade we're talking about forever and 711 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: ever and ever, especially once we see what the Nets 712 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: look like and how they perform these next couple of seasons. 713 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would lean towards that side too, because I mean, 714 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: you go down one or two pass here with this 715 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: Nets team there they win a championship, which is definitely 716 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 3: in play this year maybe even the next. Like you know, 717 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: who knows, like they're they're that good guys in their 718 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 3: prime or it's just a disaster, especially with these characters. 719 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: I mean, and then we're like, what were they doing? 720 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 3: Now they're back to be in the Nets when they 721 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: did the Pierce Garnett tray and their future is gone 722 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 3: for the next you know, six seven, eight years, like 723 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 3: it could be. It's gonna be really probably one of 724 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 3: those pasts like I don't see, like the Nets just 725 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 3: you know, winning fifty five games for a couple of 726 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 3: years here and you know, okay, they got close and 727 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: stuff like it will either be one extreme or the otherly, 728 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: it really will. And again I think that comes down 729 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: to just going all in like this and the people 730 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 3: involved in it, these alpha dogs involved. It's one or 731 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 3: the other and it has to be a total or 732 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: bust and that's why they're making this trade. But I 733 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: guess I lean towards it being positive. I guess I 734 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 3: guess I'm a little concerned. I just don't see it 735 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: this year because that just generally doesn't happen in the NBA. 736 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 3: Even you know, a lebron team super team isn't winning 737 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: it in the first year. So maybe next year. But 738 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: what do you think, Well. 739 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 5: It's gonna come down to what happens in the playoffs, 740 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 5: and because James Harden has played some very good playoff games, 741 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 5: but he tends to finish series badly. But again, now 742 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 5: he's in a situation where it's like if he if 743 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 5: his team doesn't advance, there's other guys out there that 744 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 5: it's like, you know, with Kevin and Kyrie that you're like, Okay, 745 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 5: maybe the other team was just better than them, but 746 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 5: it doesn't fall all on his shoulders. But perhaps it 747 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 5: will too. Perhaps it will be like, see, James Harden 748 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 5: just can't win no matter who he's playing with, you know, 749 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 5: depending on how he performs in those playoff games. Because 750 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 5: we've seen him put up forty points in playoff games 751 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 5: and be great, but we tend to see in those 752 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 5: sort of late games of playoff series he doesn't perform 753 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 5: as well, and he doesn't look as interested, and he 754 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 5: shoots two for sixteen and he has eight turnovers and 755 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 5: it just sort of flames out. So now he's in 756 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 5: a situation where some other guys can kind of still 757 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 5: advance the team and he can maybe hide without being 758 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 5: necessarily the best player, but he could also take some 759 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 5: hits if he sort of stinks again in those late games, 760 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like it's it sort of 761 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 5: just depends on how his overall performance goes. But if 762 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 5: the team flames out, he could still quite catch a 763 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 5: few blows from people because they're like, see, he just 764 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 5: can't win no matter what in the playoffs. He's not 765 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 5: a playoff performer. But he could also then go on 766 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 5: and win the championship, and then it could be like, well, yeah, 767 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 5: but it's because he had Kevin Duran on his team. 768 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 5: So he's in a tough spot. He's in a tough spot, 769 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 5: but you know he's. 770 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 3: I'm not going to cry for Jams. 771 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 5: Sorry, no, exactly, no, I mean, but again, I think 772 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 5: so much of this is down to Kyrie and James 773 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 5: Harden basically saying, Okay, this is the greatest chance we 774 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 5: get to win a championship. I mean, Kyra has already 775 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 5: won one of course there with Lebron, but this is 776 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 5: kind of what they with want, you know, others superstar 777 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 5: talent around them, and there's no question that they've got 778 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 5: that on paper. So in order to win, though, you 779 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 5: have to perform on the court, and you have to 780 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 5: be prepared to be like maybe maybe at the end 781 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 5: of the game, because I can't see Kyri. If Kyrie 782 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 5: Irving's feeling it, we've seen him in the games he 783 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 5: has played this season in that fourth quarter when he's 784 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 5: feeling it, he's shooting, he's going down. He's going to 785 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 5: take those shots, you know. And and that's why I 786 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 5: don't see him necessarily being like I'll sit to the 787 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 5: side and let James Harden have a turn tonight. If 788 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 5: Kyrie feels it, he's going for it. And if it works, great, 789 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 5: everyone's happy. But if it doesn't, then you can see 790 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 5: a combustible situation in that locker room. 791 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, what's your big question then, surrounding this whole deal. 792 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 5: Well, I guess it comes down to Steve Nash. How 793 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 5: does Steve Nash manage this? Because we've we've talked about 794 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 5: it a lot already here Steve Nash. If I'm him, 795 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 5: I go to Kevin Durant and I say, listen, I'm 796 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 5: gonna need a little bit of help here with these guys. 797 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 5: Because you've played with one of them, and you've you know, 798 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 5: you've played a few games here with the other one. 799 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 5: I'm going to need you to sort of help me 800 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 5: manage their egos and have them understand the big picture here. 801 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 5: Because Steve Nash is respected as a player, no question, 802 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 5: but as a coach, you know, he's starting out and 803 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 5: those sort of you know, he's more, I would say 804 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 5: more a manager than a coach right now, is that 805 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 5: he doesn't need to tell these guys how to play. 806 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 5: He needs to manage the personalities to make sure that's 807 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 5: no one sitting on the sideline going, man, I can't 808 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 5: believe that I'm like getting the shots. I used to 809 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 5: be the guy this year I should be doing more 810 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 5: than this. So I think that's when you have someone 811 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 5: like Durant, you say, what do you think? How do 812 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 5: you think we approached James Harden? What was it like 813 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 5: when you played with him? Was a million years ago 814 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 5: of course in Okay, see and he was coming off 815 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 5: the bench, completely different role. But how would you approach it? 816 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 5: You played with Steph, you played with Clay, You went 817 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 5: into that situation that James Harden's kind of going into 818 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 5: now where it's like, you know, other guys have to sacrifice. Now, 819 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 5: Steph Curry I believe did sacrifice, and so did Clay. 820 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 5: But you know, James Harden is the one now who 821 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 5: has to be the one to be that guy who 822 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 5: has to adjust his game. So Steve Nash can handle 823 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 5: all that and get it right, then it's going to 824 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 5: be a great result. But if you know if he 825 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 5: if he's trying to sort of get guys to to 826 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 5: to play into something, and Steve Nash doesn't have maybe 827 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 5: that sort of credibility as far as coaches, though Mike 828 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 5: d'antoni's there, which should help Antoni and James Harden. I 829 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 5: mean their relationship was fine in the end, I think. 830 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 5: So he's got those people around itim, but it's it's 831 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 5: gonna be tough because he's the head coach that he's 832 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 5: going to get all the questions. He's going to get 833 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 5: all the media attentions like you know, oh, what were 834 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 5: you thinking here? Why did you do that? Did you 835 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 5: bench this guy? Did you leave him on the court 836 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 5: too long? All those things. So it's going to be 837 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 5: tough for a first year coach to deal with all that. 838 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 3: Steve Nash is going to be having a lot of 839 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 3: postgame beers, post game wye dicking off the edge. He's 840 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 3: already talking about that. I think it's going to get 841 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 3: even more extreme. The question I have just a minor 842 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 3: question because I think you guys are knocking it out 843 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 3: of the park because the big question is, you know, 844 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 3: the Nets and their championship or bust mentality here and 845 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 3: how it all works, but I just tweeted it out 846 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 3: before we jumped on here. I'm curious, especially as a 847 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 3: Raptors fan, but other teams too, was Massiu Zieria and 848 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 3: Bobby Webster and the Raptors, you know, were they trying 849 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 3: to sneak into this deal too, to get like a 850 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 3: Jared Allen. We talked about the Raptors needing a center, 851 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 3: you know, was there something there that could have happened 852 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 3: and could they have made that work? Or other teams 853 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 3: like what the Pacers did and the Cavs teams. I mean, 854 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 3: I just love, I love, I love, love love to know, well, 855 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 3: what were those other teams offering and trying to get 856 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 3: in the mix, and even the Sixers as we talked about, 857 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 3: like what were they really willing to offer Simmons and 858 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 3: who and how many picks? So that's just a question 859 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 3: for me because I love the Jared Allen pick up. 860 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 3: That's awesome, just awesome. And I also loved the Karis 861 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 3: Lavert move by the Pacers just because they were going 862 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 3: to lose Oladipo. Just as we wrapped this up here, yeah, 863 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 3: go ahead. 864 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: I had one more minor question for the Skeets regarding 865 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: Karris Lavert, I think he's going to be an All 866 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: Star now before Shaie Gilles. 867 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 3: Alexander No, no, no point. 868 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 1: Game up for grabs there in Indiana. 869 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, it is. Look again, talked about it 870 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 3: a little bit last night. I love it. I love Lavert. 871 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 3: I've compared him to Oladipo before Oladipo made his way 872 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 3: to Indiana and was, you know, given the opportunity to 873 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 3: really flourish and be a lead guy. He turned into 874 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 3: an All Star, he turned into an All NBA guy. 875 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 3: I don't think Lavert is quite on Oladipo's level yet, 876 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 3: but my point is I could see him growing into that. 877 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 3: I love it, but no, the answer is no, it's 878 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 3: Sabonis is a lock. I'm a big Brogden fan too, 879 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 3: and I think they're gonna be I think they're gonna 880 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 3: compliment each other really well. Lavert in him, but I think, 881 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 3: you know, if there was in some weird scenario where 882 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 3: there are two pacers getting All Star selections, I think 883 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 3: Brogden would still maybe even get the nod. But then again, 884 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 3: you know, I can see Lavert hitting a game winner 885 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 3: or two in an Indiana uniform and hitting some clutch shots. 886 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 3: He showed he can do that with the Nets. I 887 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 3: the Indiana Pacers are like the hipster pick right now 888 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 3: for a lot of people out there. And this is 889 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 3: missing TJ. Warren. But Miles Turner is like him and 890 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 3: Bouchet are like their block percentage levels are like insane 891 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 3: right now. They're blocking every shot. And then of course, 892 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 3: like we talked about Sabonas and Brogden just balling out, 893 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 3: and now you've got Lavert. They're a good team. We 894 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 3: got all the holidays, man fixed it up, changed the 895 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 3: door play. Yeah, it's fun. It's fun there. They are, 896 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 3: like you know, people are already like salivating at the 897 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 3: idea of like, well watch the Pacers like beat the 898 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 3: Nets in a playoff series or something like that. I 899 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 3: could see it. I guess a little revenge there for Lavert. 900 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 3: But no, to answer your question, that was very long winded. 901 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 3: Not this year, and I'm loving she still. I'm all 902 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 3: in on SGVAV and I'll start you know that I'm 903 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 3: gonna win one hundred bucks from task. I'm gonna flip 904 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 3: that around somehow with you make some more money and 905 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 3: I can see it all right. Now, let's wrap this up, though, Lee, 906 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 3: who's the next big name to be traded? Because that's 907 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 3: what we do in the NBA. As soon as one 908 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 3: of those dominoes falls, we move on to the next one. 909 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 3: Who is it? 910 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 5: You look ad play a power and you look at 911 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 5: what Anthony Davis did in New Orleans. He was there 912 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 5: for a while and he had enough and he decided 913 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 5: to force his way out and he got his wish. 914 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 5: James Harden got his wish out of Fuston after right 915 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 5: seasons there. Bradley Beal yesterday tweeted, just wow, Capital letters. 916 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 5: He's in his ninth season in Washington, having a great 917 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 5: individual season, but they are thirteenth in the Eastern Conference. 918 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,919 Speaker 5: Does by is Bradley Beal just at the point where, yeah, 919 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 5: what am I doing? You know what am I doing here? 920 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 5: This franchise hasn't done anything really like and look, Beal, 921 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 5: he averaged thirty a game last year. He's averaging thirty 922 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 5: four a game. I think he is much better than 923 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 5: just a guy who's putting up numbers on a bad team. 924 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 5: I think there's a much better role for him out there. 925 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 5: I just wonder if he starts to think like, yeah, 926 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 5: all right, it's time for me to sort of flex 927 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 5: my muscles a little bit here and try to move 928 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 5: to a better situation, because again, man, I mean, how 929 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 5: can the Wizards be having a season? I think it's 930 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 5: only the Raptors who is We've got the standings right here. 931 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 5: It's the Pistons and the Raptors are below them, and 932 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 5: that's it in the Eastern Conference. 933 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 3: And now it sounds like Westbrook could be out for Yes, 934 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 3: with this quiet injury, it's not going to get better. 935 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 5: So I just sort of think if Beal's looking around 936 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 5: in season nine just going like, oh my god, I'm 937 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 5: going to be in a battle here just to make 938 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 5: the play in tournament, it looks like so maybe it's 939 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 5: time for him to just say, yeah, I need to 940 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 5: go somewhere else too. I think the Wizards are probably like, yeah, 941 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 5: look at the hall that people are getting out there. 942 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 5: Maybe that's what we need as well. Maybe get that 943 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 5: young player, get a few draft picks, and let's start again, 944 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 5: because clearly they're not moving in the right direction in Washington, 945 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 5: and I think it'd probably be good for both of 946 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,919 Speaker 5: them to move on and start fresh and give Bal 947 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 5: a chance to go play for another team. 948 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 3: Okay, Bradley Beal. That's an obvious pick, and I could 949 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 3: see it happening, and it all really just comes down 950 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 3: to bal right, whether he would want to force their hand. 951 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 3: That's what it comes down to with these guys. It's like, yeah, 952 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 3: nothing's happening here. I don't see a future trade me 953 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 3: just go get a bunch of picks and get some 954 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 3: young guys back because I want to go try and 955 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 3: win a championship or at least go deep in the playoffs. 956 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 3: Who do you have trade to have, Bill or do 957 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:51,959 Speaker 3: someone else? 958 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: I think Andre Drummond is the next guy that's going 959 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: to be on the move. He's actually been really good 960 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,720 Speaker 1: for the Calves. He's been really good for the Internet, 961 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,399 Speaker 1: coming up with these sees time after time, and he's 962 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,760 Speaker 1: definitely uped his trade value last year. He was traded 963 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: for literally a bag of beans last year. John Henson, 964 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: John Henson, could you maybe pry a first round pick 965 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: for Andre Drummond? Maybe a team like the Raptors is interested. 966 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: I kind of want to find a way to get 967 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: him to the Golden State Warriors. I was like Lee 968 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: Ella's hitting that trade machine last night. Time is a 969 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: flat circle. Andrew Wiggins returning to Cleveland. Oh my god, 970 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: for Andre Drummond. Jared Allen is going to be the 971 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 1: center there. He's gonna be He's a restricted free agent. 972 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 1: They're gonna want to sign him to a deal alongside 973 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: the sex Land backcourt, alongside Isaac Accoro. And like I said, 974 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: Drummond has been good, so he's helped the development. I 975 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,479 Speaker 1: think of both of their guards as well. Just playing 976 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,439 Speaker 1: with a solid pick and roll guy, somebody who's gonna 977 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: actually be able to guard the rim. And let's not 978 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 1: forget the Lakers are dominating right now. They are barely 979 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: trailing in these games. They're playing. Lebron is in flip 980 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: flops by the end of every single game, and they've 981 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 1: got two guys who just eat inside when it comes 982 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 1: playoff time. The Warriors don't have that. Could they talk 983 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: themselves into wanting a go I like Andre Drummonds, somebody, 984 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: a big guy just to throw out there, to bang 985 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: with Anthony Davis, to be at the rim when Lebron 986 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,959 Speaker 1: Is feasting inside. Big guys were all the rage over 987 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: the off season, and we've been talking a lot about 988 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: perimeter guys. With this trade, I think there's an opportunity 989 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: for some bigs to be hopping out of Cleveland that 990 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: could actually help some teams. 991 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good pick. I have that in my 992 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 3: notes as well. I'll also pick a team that was 993 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 3: involved here that could move a guy, maybe not a 994 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 3: star anymore. But can the Rockets find a taker for 995 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 3: Eric Gordon's contract? Remember him? 996 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 997 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 3: You know, he's actually a decent player when he's healthy 998 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 3: and playing. That's a bit of a problem when it 999 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 3: comes to Eric Gordon, but yeah, it's a big contract. 1000 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 3: They're obviously looking towards the future here. We still think 1001 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 3: they're going to be decent. But I could see somebody 1002 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 3: talking to themselves and thinking, hey, Eric Gordon as like 1003 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,959 Speaker 3: our third best player on this roster, fourth best player. Yeah, sure, 1004 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 3: sure we can try and make a deal. Now, you 1005 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 3: got to get make the money work. So that's the 1006 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 3: difficult part. But I think he's a guy to watch. 1007 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 3: But it would help if he you know, he's out 1008 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 3: there getting some minutes in and getting trade ump it, 1009 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 3: upping his trade value a little bit like the Kavs 1010 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 3: are doing with Drum, and that'll help the chances. Let's 1011 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 3: hear from you guys, though, With all of those questions, winners, losers, 1012 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 3: big cues about it, and uh, of course, just who 1013 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 3: do you think is going to be the next big 1014 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 3: name traded? Because that's all we do here in the NBA. JD, 1015 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 3: what's up man? You jumping on and say, hi, no, 1016 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 3: that was an accident. 1017 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,720 Speaker 6: I don't know what I'm doing here. 1018 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 3: JD had like a hot take exactly. 1019 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,479 Speaker 6: Now, just enjoying the show. 1020 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 7: Carry on? 1021 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's briefly touch on some of the games. 1022 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 3: Last night. Obviously went pretty long there on the hard 1023 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 3: and trade follow but three games one thing. Because we 1024 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 3: had three more games postponed on Wednesday night, they did 1025 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 3: still manage to play seven games in the NBA. So Leon, 1026 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna pick three of the games from last 1027 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 3: night and we'll just quickly touch on these. I think 1028 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,120 Speaker 3: this one's interesting because I think it went under the 1029 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 3: raider a little bit with what was going on with Harden. 1030 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 3: But the donk Luke Danchi. She scored thirty four as 1031 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 3: the Mavericks beat the Hornets in Kristaps poor Singus's return again. 1032 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 3: This is the whoa that was out of sort of 1033 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 3: left field. They know what he was expecting to come back, 1034 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 3: but here he is. So, what was your big takeaway 1035 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 3: from the MAVs getting another victory, the fourth in a row. 1036 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it did take a little bit of time to 1037 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 5: get into the games last night, just sort of after 1038 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 5: the big emotional day of hard and it was kind 1039 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 5: of like it was eight eight o'clock and I'm like, oh, man, 1040 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 5: games have started already. So I went back to check 1041 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,439 Speaker 5: in and yeah, it was Kristaps Porzingis. He played twenty 1042 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 5: one minutes, took sixteen shots for the Mavericks. Looked pretty 1043 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 5: good out there, looked pretty good, hit some threes Defensively, Look, 1044 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 5: he changed quite a few shots, And I mean that's 1045 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 5: a big thing for the Mavericks. They need someone who 1046 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 5: can play defense. He's not a great defendive. He's a 1047 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 5: big body's a long body. He's got those arms, and 1048 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 5: that's what's really important. 1049 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 2: Now. 1050 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 5: He was on a minute's restriction, and he sort of 1051 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 5: talked about it after the game, joking around, sort of 1052 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 5: saying like he was a bit anxious just to sort 1053 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 5: of do as much as he could because he knew 1054 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 5: he wasn't going to be out there all game. But 1055 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 5: so far earlier early returns there for the Mavericks They've 1056 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 5: got to be pretty happy because I don't think the 1057 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 5: Mavericks can go very far unless they're at full strength. 1058 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 5: I mean, like every team, of course, you need your 1059 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 5: best players out there, as great as Doncic is. I 1060 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 5: just sort of feel, particularly in that Western Conference, that 1061 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 5: the Mavericks have a ceiling of about the sort of 1062 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 5: second round without their full full strength. So getting pussing 1063 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 5: this back now, I'm interested to see how much he's 1064 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 5: going to play this season. Will he play back to backs? 1065 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,439 Speaker 5: Will they get him out there and off that minutes 1066 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 5: restriction as soon as possible? Because offensively, no problems at 1067 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 5: all here with the Mavericks. Just a few questions defensively, 1068 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 5: and yeah, so good win. Good revenge victory for the 1069 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 5: Mavericks over the horn as the horn Is punked them 1070 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 5: down in Dallas earlier in the season. So funny little 1071 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,919 Speaker 5: moment there, Luka Doncic had to lay up a wide 1072 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:43,439 Speaker 5: open layup. 1073 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 3: He should have. 1074 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 5: Dunked it, and he didn't, and his teammates on the 1075 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 5: bench started ripping him for it. So got a bit 1076 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 5: of an old man game already. I think, Luka Doncic, 1077 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 5: you know, he doesn't go down to throw down the 1078 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 5: windmill or anything like that, but his teammates wanted to 1079 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 5: see a dunk. So pretty good night for the Mavericks overall. 1080 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, Luca thirty four to thirteen Wards ninus career high 1081 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 3: four blocks. And you said you're not worried about their offense. 1082 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 3: Lee with the Mavericks. Fair, They had the best offense 1083 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 3: in what MGA history last year. Here's the crazy part 1084 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 3: with the MAVs this year. And I think this is 1085 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 3: going underreported right now. I don't know what's going on. 1086 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 3: We gotta do a deeper dive. But the mass on 1087 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 3: the second best defense in the league right now, and 1088 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 3: this was without Porzingis is it just because teams are 1089 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,399 Speaker 3: missing against them? I mean, like, I gotta again look 1090 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 3: into this. They're shooting forty four percent from the floor 1091 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 3: opponents are against the MAVs and only thirty one percent 1092 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 3: from distance versus them. Now is that going to feel 1093 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 3: like that? 1094 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 5: I doesn't feel like that. 1095 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 3: Second best defense in the league pairing that with right now, 1096 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 3: what isn't you know, a league wide average offense? That's good, 1097 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 3: but that boats well for the Mavericks. But is it 1098 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 3: just a case of like teams missing shots? They would 1099 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 3: normally make I don't know. I mean, maybe the Mavericks 1100 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 3: fans out there can let me know a little bit more. 1101 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 3: But I like to see what Luca did defensevely last night. 1102 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 3: I mean four blocks is four blocks, and he was 1103 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 3: all over the place defensively. So you pair that with 1104 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 3: that offense, you know, you can start seeing them going 1105 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 3: a little deeper. I le because that's a great start 1106 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 3: for them, all right. Anything to add about Porzingis's return there, 1107 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 3: tray not too much. People are targeting the MAVs as 1108 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 3: a potential Andre Drummond location. Yeah, and I think that's 1109 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 3: a little bit interesting because the Mavericks are definitely at 1110 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 3: their best I think when Kristaps Porzingis is playing the five. 1111 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 3: But he's also super skinny and has missed a ton 1112 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 3: of time in his career. So perhaps it's not a 1113 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 3: bad idea to bring in a guy like Andre Drummond 1114 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 3: to take the bumps for the entirety of the regular season, 1115 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 3: and then when it's clutch time, you play Porzingis at 1116 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 3: the five. I don't know if that's the smartest thing. 1117 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 3: That would probably cost you quite a few assets to 1118 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 3: bring in Andre Drummond, but I can see the idea 1119 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 3: of saving Porzingis's body for when you really need him, 1120 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 3: because he is instrumental to their success. They need that 1121 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 3: guy who takes them to another level and he's the 1122 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 3: only guy on the roster right now. Drummond wouldn't be 1123 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 3: that guy, but I think it would help save Porzingis 1124 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 3: a little. 1125 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: So who knows. The Mavericks are always a team that 1126 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: seems to be at least in the mix trying to 1127 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: acquire people. We'll see if they actually pull it off. 1128 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 3: Right and KP. He started last night alongside I had 1129 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 3: Willie Couley Stei, so they went with the Twin Towers 1130 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 3: there at least to start that game. That's interesting about 1131 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 3: Drummond and Leah can't. I can't believe you didn't bring 1132 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 3: up your Aussie. 1133 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 5: You had a great game, Josh Green. 1134 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're slry. 1135 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,320 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah Greeny. 1136 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, please call him by his real. 1137 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 5: Name, jeez. And they won for four from the free 1138 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 5: throw line. Life for greedy. 1139 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,879 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, he actually sucks that all right. Our 1140 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 3: next game Giannis triple double list the Bucks over the 1141 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 3: Pistons one ten one oh one. Trey Big takeaway outside 1142 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 3: of the Bucks and the Pistons just play every second night. 1143 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 3: What is going on? 1144 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, sucks for the Pistons. They've already had to play 1145 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: the Bucks three times in the first ten games of 1146 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 1: the season. Tough break for the Pistons. But don't get 1147 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,919 Speaker 1: it twisted. This was not a close or exciting game. 1148 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: It was nine points, but not really that close. The 1149 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: Bucks got up twenty early, they were in command all game. 1150 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: At one point in Milwaukee had made more threes than 1151 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 1: the Pistons had made shots. Period. This is straight up 1152 00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: a bone throw right here. It was all about the 1153 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: Natzia yesterday, how they might be the favorites in the 1154 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference, what it's going to be like when they 1155 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: play the Lakers in the finals. Don't forget about the 1156 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 1: Bucks three in a row, They've won six of seven. 1157 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: They've got the best offense in the league right now, 1158 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 1: just as weird as Dallas having the second best offense 1159 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 1: or the second best defense in the league. Part of 1160 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: that is because they're shooting forty one percent on threes. 1161 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: That's not gonna stick around for the entire season. You know, 1162 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: that twenty nine to three point performance they had against 1163 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: the Miami Heat is still obviously affecting their season long percentages. 1164 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 1: But it's been cream city for Milwaukee. They're smacking teams. 1165 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 1: They won by nine last night. That's their closest win 1166 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,840 Speaker 1: of the season. They got the best point differential in 1167 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: the league. The Bucks are still good. Giannis is still good. 1168 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,879 Speaker 1: It's just easy to sleep on them because we've seen 1169 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 1: the same team basically for three state seasons. 1170 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It's uh, We've talked about it, like it's 1171 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 3: tough to get too too excited about the Bucks until 1172 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,399 Speaker 3: we just get to the playoffs and we see their 1173 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,359 Speaker 3: matchuping whether or not they can figure out that team 1174 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 3: they got to get by who's going to zero win 1175 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 3: on Giannis and they're gonna play them differently and will 1176 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 3: Drew Holiday, you know, get them over the hump and 1177 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 3: take the next level. But yeah, regular season Bucks, they 1178 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 3: just crushed teams. They just take care of business. Yeah, 1179 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 3: they're back. Quick trivia question, Lee, how many triple doubles 1180 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 3: does Giannis have in his career now? Whenty ding ding 1181 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:18,919 Speaker 3: Ding exactly thought, do you think that's high or low? 1182 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 3: I actually thought that was at triple doubles these days, 1183 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,799 Speaker 3: but I actually thought it was I was like Damn, 1184 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 3: he's got twenty triple doubles already. 1185 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think he should have banked a 1186 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 5: lot last year. He seemed to just be getting a 1187 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 5: lot last year. But yeah, I actually probably low when 1188 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 5: you think about it, really because low. Yeah, I mean 1189 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 5: just because he just piles up so many stats, you know. 1190 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,840 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, yeah, the points is never going to 1191 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 3: be an issue. The rebounds is not going to be 1192 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 3: a shoe busy assis tennis cists still tennisis I know, 1193 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 3: it gets a law shoot. Yeah, when the team shooting 1194 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,879 Speaker 3: forty one percent from three, I mean, you can rack 1195 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,399 Speaker 3: up a good four to five assists. So I spoke 1196 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 3: giving it to a shooter for sure. So yeah, alright, 1197 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 3: twenty triple doubles there for for you, honest. Okay, final game, 1198 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 3: Lillard had forty as the Blazers tied a team record. 1199 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 3: You want to talk about threes for threes to beat 1200 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 3: the Kings one thirty two one twenty six. Blazers are 1201 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 3: down huge in this game, down twenty, That doesn't matter 1202 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 3: in today's NBA. They were down going into the fourth though, 1203 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 3: they were down five, but they rallied to beat the Kings. 1204 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 3: They hit twenty three three pointers. Uh so lights out 1205 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 3: Lillard and McCollum both six each. Then you had like 1206 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 3: Covington hitting a bunch, Gary Trent hit a couple, just 1207 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 3: an awesome, whoa boy like game from Lillard forty points, 1208 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 3: thirteen assists without a turnover, and then McAll them the 1209 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 3: twenty eight ten and seven. I thought Nurk played really 1210 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 3: well in this. Still they're giving up one hundred and 1211 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 3: twenty six points to the Kings. This this Blazer's defense 1212 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 3: isn't as impressive as I think some of us, myself included, 1213 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 3: thought it might be at the start of the season 1214 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,880 Speaker 3: heading into it. When they made that move for Covington 1215 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,879 Speaker 3: and got Derek Jones Junior and you got Nurk back, 1216 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 3: you're thinking, oh, yeah, okay, it could be some defensive 1217 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,479 Speaker 3: identity here. Then to pair with your scorers in Lillard 1218 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 3: and McCollum, and it just hasn't really gotten there yet. 1219 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 3: So it's a little bit of worry. But they got 1220 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 3: the victory. They're a weird I think, what are their 1221 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 3: what's their record? You had the standings up there? Are 1222 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 3: they seven and four? Yeah, it's like they feel they 1223 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 3: feel lucky to be seven and four. I guess it 1224 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 3: feels like they're almost like I don't know why. It 1225 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 3: feels like they're more like four and seven to me. 1226 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 3: But they got the Dubs and man two point games 1227 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 3: thirty second thirty seconds left. The Kings needed to stop. Obviously, 1228 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 3: they're trailing by two. Daron Foxes on Damian Lillard, all right, 1229 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 3: good luck with that. But Fox is quick. Man. Dame 1230 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 3: used a little like a sick little hesitation. Yeah, just 1231 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about, Lea, Yeah, you just 1232 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 3: exploded to the rim. I mean, Fox stays with them 1233 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 3: and tries tries to block them, but Lillard just sneaks 1234 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 3: it up under them with that little hesitation. Oh it's 1235 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 3: so nasty. You watch it in slow mow when it 1236 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 3: looks fast. 1237 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1238 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 3: So it was incredible. Good game for the the Blazers duo, 1239 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 3: you know, sixty eight and twenty three assists. 1240 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, speaking of that duo, I mean, is this the 1241 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,799 Speaker 5: ACJ mikes the old stats a I mean, twenty eight 1242 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,320 Speaker 5: points a game on four seven shooting from to forty 1243 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 5: four percent from three point range, you know, four rebounds, 1244 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,879 Speaker 5: five or sist whatever. But he certainly feels like he's 1245 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 5: taking a step up in his game this year. 1246 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, yes, put me down as a Yes, 1247 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 3: he's helped by a guy like Harden leaving the conference. 1248 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 5: It's just where the Blazers gets too. That's the other 1249 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 5: thing I think it. Lily Lilard's the default sort of 1250 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 5: all star, so will Will will he be able to 1251 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 5: sneak in there. But if they keep winning, I think absolutely. 1252 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,360 Speaker 5: But the good thing about CJ's calling himself a shark 1253 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,359 Speaker 5: out there because he just knows how to eat and 1254 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 5: he does he does he when he gets the ball 1255 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 5: and he's like, I'm just going to cook this defender. 1256 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 5: And he's a fun guy to watch because he's got 1257 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 5: quite a bit in his bag, as the kids say. 1258 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 3: And I'll always have to add that part when you 1259 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 3: see he's got a lot of this. 1260 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,800 Speaker 1: Don't worry man. Mark Jones says it all the time. 1261 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: That guy's bringing up a bag and every time somebody 1262 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: scores a basket. 1263 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 5: I have to do Mark Jones is adding him and 1264 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,800 Speaker 5: Doug Christie actually a fun listen on that King's broadcast. 1265 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 5: I really like the chemistry of those two. You know 1266 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,399 Speaker 5: that the King had who was it, Jerry Reynolds and 1267 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 5: uh yeah forever Yeah, it's so good to get some 1268 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 5: fresh voices in there. Doug Christy's a he's a fun listen. 1269 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 5: I didn't wasn't a fan at the start, but he's off. 1270 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 5: Tend on him a little bit. He's a ten around 1271 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 5: on him, I guess a little bit. Uh. 1272 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 3: I love how they do the thing. They'll share clips 1273 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 3: online where they put the cameras like right on them 1274 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 3: on the broadcast. So then when there's a big Kings play, 1275 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 3: you get the reaction those guys, like Fox had that 1276 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 3: big dunk down the lanery screen the other night, and 1277 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 3: then there's a clip of Doug Christy and Mark jild 1278 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 3: both standing up and I love that move. It's like 1279 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 3: a uh moro ronalo Uh does the call when he 1280 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 3: used to do like the NXT calls. I don't know 1281 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 3: if he still does that and they put the camera 1282 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 3: on him. 1283 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 4: Oh. 1284 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 3: I love watching those. 1285 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:42,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been great. 1286 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:43,320 Speaker 9: Uh. 1287 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 1: There have been a couple of legendary Christie calls. I 1288 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 1: feel like already the season like you're saying, skeets on 1289 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: that on the Fox dunk. I think his line was 1290 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: that's a bag by, which was hilarious. Last night, Tyres 1291 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: Halliburton had some sort of like he had a look 1292 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 1: off and then he shot a little floater. They're showing 1293 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 1: the SLOWMA replay and Doug Christy hit us with He's 1294 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,800 Speaker 1: giving you the rhythm and the blues. 1295 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:14,720 Speaker 3: It's Tyres, yeah, baby boy for sure. 1296 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 8: Oh my goodness. 1297 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 3: All right, So a good win there by the Blazers, 1298 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 3: you know, a little too many points given up, but 1299 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 3: in the end they got the victory. Poor Kings. That's 1300 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 3: really it. We'll move on. I know there were some 1301 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 3: other games. I'm sorry I won't get to some of 1302 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 3: your teams, but don't worry. The NBA never stops. Okay, Lee, 1303 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 3: talk to me about mushroom coffee. Mate, Let's get to 1304 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 3: tweet of the night. 1305 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 9: Tweet of the night. 1306 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 1: Wow, Lely, you. 1307 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 3: Got twin to the night duties here? 1308 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 5: What do you yeah? So? Uh, this is actually an 1309 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 5: Instagram direct message of the night because a couple of 1310 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 5: nights ago, I was looking I was looking at my 1311 00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 5: Instagram and I got a little message from an that 1312 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 5: I recognized, but I was surprised to see because there's 1313 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 5: a lot of parody accounts out there, and this one 1314 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 5: came in from former two time world heavyweight boxing champion. 1315 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 3: Riddick Bo, No, it didn't. 1316 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 5: It did, and Bo just said he said, get at me. 1317 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 5: So I got at him, and he said, Riddick bo said, 1318 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 5: what's good, partner, Bo Bo? So I responded, I thought, 1319 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 5: why not. It's a verified account. I thought, okay, this 1320 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 5: must be the real Ridick Bow. So I said, hey, 1321 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 5: what's up? Barbe Bo versus Holyfield Round ten was one 1322 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 5: of the greatest boxing round the greatest rounds in boxing history. 1323 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 5: Riddick Bow replied, my guy, thanks so much. Just roll 1324 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 5: with the punches, trying to do what to do? 1325 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 3: What about you? 1326 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 5: Partner? Boo, Duck and and weaven with the best of them. 1327 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 3: So weird. 1328 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 5: I'm just trying to survive another round of this crazy thing. 1329 00:58:51,760 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 5: You're good, Riddick Bow replies. Riddigbo replied, ain't that the truth. 1330 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 5: That's what's up, partner. You're doing pretty good for yourself. 1331 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 5: What's your be working on? Bo? So I thought, there's 1332 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 5: still some moilview. I said, I'm doing a daily NBA podcast. 1333 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:13,919 Speaker 5: I want to join us for a pod one day. 1334 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 5: We can talk basketball and boxing. He liked that, and 1335 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 5: he said, ain't that something I like you man? You 1336 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 5: good in my books. You know what you should all 1337 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 5: you should hit up my guy jf Follow He may 1338 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 5: got some business for you. He big time. 1339 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 3: He and Mark Huban they. 1340 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 10: Do big NBA he family tell him Bo sent you. 1341 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 10: Let's do this damn fang Bo so so ah so 1342 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 10: tomorrow when Riddick Bow. 1343 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 5: Listen, if Riddick Bou wants to come on the pod 1344 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 5: and talk a little boxing, because you guys, remember out 1345 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 5: in Vegas at Summer League, one of the camera men 1346 00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 5: out there, h him, used to talk boxing. I used 1347 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 5: to be a big boxing guy. 1348 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 7: No no, no, no, no, no, no, not talk boxing. You 1349 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 7: talk boxing and you were just sat there eating your salad. 1350 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 7: Gone because I used to be a big boxing fan. 1351 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 5: And that fight, that heavyweight fight between Evander Holyfield and 1352 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 5: Reddick Bow is one of the greatest fights of all time. 1353 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 5: It goes the distance and Riddick Bow wins. And you 1354 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 5: look at round ten, like Riddick Bow comes out and 1355 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 5: basically knocks out Evander Holyfield and you think, okay, the 1356 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 5: fight's over. Then Evander Hollyfield starts throwing Haymaker's back. It's 1357 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 5: just incredible, and they even sort of give each other 1358 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 5: little little hug a little dap up after that round 1359 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 5: of an incredible fight, and then what's even better. What 1360 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 5: I remember after the fight, Lennox Lewis, who was also 1361 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,919 Speaker 5: a challenger at the time, was on the commentary team 1362 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 5: or something. Riddick Bow tries to fight him after the fight, 1363 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 5: Like he gets into He's like, let's fight, let's get 1364 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 5: it on, Let's have it right now. And it's a 1365 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 5: really tense, awesome moment there because Lennox Lewis is just 1366 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 5: kind of like, I mean, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna 1367 01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 5: knock you out, and Riddick Bow's like, all right, let's 1368 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 5: do it, man, and uh and then you it's like, 1369 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 5: if it wasn't so many people there, they almost would 1370 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,440 Speaker 5: have thrown down right there and there it's a it's 1371 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,479 Speaker 5: an awesome moment, great fight. So yeah, maybe we're gonna 1372 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 5: have Riddy Bow on the show. 1373 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 3: Just jugging and weaving punches cold life. 1374 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,560 Speaker 1: How much longer could you have gone working boxing references 1375 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:21,920 Speaker 1: into it? 1376 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 3: I mean I had I had a few ready, you know, like. 1377 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 5: I ain't ready to throw in the towel yet, partner, But. 1378 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 3: You're a ten in my books, partner. 1379 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 5: Oh man, what a what a wild ride? 1380 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 3: You call them? Rb RB. 1381 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 5: He hit me with a what up, partner, and I'm like, 1382 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 5: all right, we're buds, man, We're buds. 1383 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 3: A lot of partners, a lot of tipping on the 1384 01:01:53,360 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 3: cowboy hat. That's too good. You are the Internet for 1385 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 3: a reason. What are you doing on your phone? Roxy? 1386 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 3: Ask you? I'm just talking to Riddick Bow. Yeah, chatting 1387 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 3: with bau a partner. 1388 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:11,680 Speaker 8: I mean. 1389 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 5: The thing is, you know, like, because there are so 1390 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 5: many parody accounts, when you see the little verified symbol 1391 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 5: and you know you scroll through like it looks good. 1392 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 4: Man. 1393 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 5: If Ridic Bou wants to chat, I'm always up to 1394 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 5: chatting with Ridick Bow, any of those heavyweights, Lennox, Lewis, 1395 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 5: Mike Tyson. Let's get him on the show. 1396 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,920 Speaker 3: Be great. Yeah. The real question in all of this 1397 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 3: is why is Riddick Bow reaching out to you to talk. Listen. 1398 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 5: We've got a big audience. Maybe Riddick Bow just sits there. 1399 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 5: Maybe he's watching right now. Riddick, if you're on there, man, listen, 1400 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 5: maybe give us your email address and we get JD 1401 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 5: to hook you up and you get them join us 1402 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:43,720 Speaker 5: on the show right now. 1403 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,800 Speaker 3: Do it live. Let's go ten rounds right now, I'm running, 1404 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 3: I'm refreshed. Give me oh man, amazing so much for 1405 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 3: a tweet of the night. I g DM of the night, though, 1406 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 3: maybe we might all have to make this its own segment. 1407 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 3: Great stuff. Leally, all right, pick them results from last night. Well, 1408 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 3: this might be our closest result yet I think here 1409 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 3: in the season. It was the Nets Knicks game. The 1410 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 3: Nets were favored by six and a half, so they 1411 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,440 Speaker 3: had to win by seven. The Knicks just had to 1412 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 3: lose by six or less and they would have got 1413 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 3: the victory. But the Nets win by seven. I think 1414 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,800 Speaker 3: it was a couple of free throws there late that 1415 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,440 Speaker 3: put them over the top. So if you had Brooklyn 1416 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 3: winning by six and a half, you won. Congrats to 1417 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 3: Trey and Lee. You guys picked up a w You 1418 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 3: guys are six and eight now task and I had 1419 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 3: the Knicks. Ooh, tough, tough loss. We fall to seven 1420 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 3: and seven. So we're very close here, one game separating everybody. 1421 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 3: You don't want to be last place in pick them 1422 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 3: because you gotta do something weird. Yeah, step in the 1423 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 3: ring with Riddick bow Well wearing a cowboy hat. Okay, 1424 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 3: let's get out of partner. But tonight's pick them game 1425 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 3: is uh, it's a weird one. Uh task through this 1426 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 3: one at us. It is strange and he wanted us 1427 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 3: to note and we should. It's the Heat Sixers game, 1428 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,600 Speaker 3: Philly favored by eleven and a half. Eleven and a half. 1429 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 3: What the heck? Heat very likely without Jimmy Butler, bam Adebayo, 1430 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 3: Gordon Draga, Kendrick Nunn, among others. So it's gonna be 1431 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 3: like this like eight man Heat roster who put up 1432 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 3: a fight the other night. So can Philly win by 1433 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,560 Speaker 3: twelve or more? What do you think? 1434 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:21,920 Speaker 2: Lely? 1435 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,880 Speaker 5: A few unknowns there. That line's just a little too big. 1436 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 5: I think the Heat have got enough that they can 1437 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,080 Speaker 5: at least keep it eleven and a half. Yeah, I 1438 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 5: think they can keep it within eleven points, even though 1439 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,600 Speaker 5: it looked like it was going to be a blowout 1440 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,840 Speaker 5: the other night, went to overtime the end in fact, Yeah, 1441 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 5: so Joelle ebiid you know, if he decides to go 1442 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 5: out and go big early on, then maybe the Sixers 1443 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 5: can blow this out. But I think I've got enough 1444 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 5: faith in the Heat to keep it within double digits anyway. 1445 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Trey, that's a big old chunk of cheese right 1446 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,840 Speaker 1: there for the Sixers to cover. But I'll take it. 1447 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'll take the Sixers. I think they're 1448 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: going to be a little bit more fired up for 1449 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 1: this game because they had Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid 1450 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,840 Speaker 1: playing against the Heat, whose best player on the night 1451 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 1: was Tyler Here. They also got a nice performance from 1452 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 1: Gabe Vincent. If he's playing for the Heat tonight, that's 1453 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 1: good news. But I think that the Sixers will come 1454 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 1: out with a little bit more fire in their bellies 1455 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 1: for this one. Gimme Philly. 1456 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 3: I'm with Philly too. I think that line is there 1457 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,880 Speaker 3: to try and scare you away or go on the Heat. 1458 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,600 Speaker 3: I think Philly win big, big, big time in this one, 1459 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 3: So I'll go with Trey. I'll take Philly to win 1460 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 3: by twelve or more. Let's hear from tests. 1461 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,400 Speaker 9: Well, I'm taking the Heat. This is still a grimy bunch. 1462 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 9: Like last season when they went to the finals. They 1463 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 9: are going to fight and scrap. I don't think they 1464 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 9: can lose by a dozen. They didn't even lose by 1465 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 9: a dozen the other night when Philadelphia got forty five 1466 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 9: from Joel Embiid. 1467 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 8: Give me the heats. 1468 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,000 Speaker 3: All right, two of us with the Heat, two of 1469 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 3: us with the Sixers. Let's go quickly to Ridick Bow 1470 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 3: and see what deep thinks. Ritick, are you there? Not 1471 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,840 Speaker 3: there yet? Okay, so good luck to everybody. Five games 1472 01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 3: on I think tonight as of now, nothing postponed tonight. 1473 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,440 Speaker 3: I know there's some on Friday that are postponed. But Heat, Sixers, Hornets, Wraps, 1474 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 3: Rocket Spurs that one on tn T, followed by the 1475 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 3: Warriors and Nuggets on TNT. That's a little interesting. And 1476 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 3: Pacers Blazers is another nightcap, so that should be good. 1477 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 3: We'll be back tomorrow to break those down. But of course, 1478 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 3: before we go, as promised, we hit twenty five thousand 1479 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 3: subs on YouTube. Thank you, thank you, thank you. So 1480 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 3: I guess as a thank you to you, here's Big 1481 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 3: Beef Volume one. 1482 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1483 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 4: Demontes Sibonis had twenty two rebounds against the Phoenix Suns. 1484 01:06:47,040 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 4: That's a lot of roast beef. Andre Drummond grabbed twenty 1485 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 4: four rebounds against the Milwaukee Bucks. That's even more roast beef. 1486 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:26,919 Speaker 4: No dunks. We love roast beef. Which is rebounds. 1487 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 3: There, it is. 1488 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 1: Rebound highlights. 1489 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,400 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, to Nate Duncan for me. 1490 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,479 Speaker 7: Yeah, oh yeah, that's too good. 1491 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 3: So, yeah, you're eating roast beef when you get over 1492 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 3: twenty boards, is that right? I think that makes sense. 1493 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 3: Is that sort of the number you have in mind? 1494 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 1: TK, Yeah, that's a pretty it's an elite rebounding number. 1495 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 1: Once you get past twenty rebounds, that's a lot of 1496 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 1: roast beef. So anytime we hit twenty, anytime there's a 1497 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 1: couple of players who hit twenty, maybe we'll drop a 1498 01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:57,400 Speaker 1: big beef here and there. 1499 01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it, So there you go. Thank you 1500 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 3: for twenty five thousand subscribers on YouTube. Oh baby. And 1501 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,360 Speaker 3: as we said, if we had fifty k Lee Ellis 1502 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,920 Speaker 3: is going to release a music video to his hit 1503 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,600 Speaker 3: new country song, which you can hear later today on 1504 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 3: the Beach Step In podcast, which we recorded yesterday before 1505 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,680 Speaker 3: the Heartened Deal. We're going to release this afternoon. You 1506 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,559 Speaker 3: can also go and listen and watch that right now 1507 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,880 Speaker 3: on YouTube if you want to. But Lee, man, you 1508 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,679 Speaker 3: wrote a banger there. Shout out to Slim Dusty rest 1509 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:26,120 Speaker 3: in peace. 1510 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 5: I wonder if we can co us Matt Austin to 1511 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,759 Speaker 5: play the guitar for that one and I'll uh oh. 1512 01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,840 Speaker 3: I'll sing get riddick bow in the music video at 1513 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:39,040 Speaker 3: just showed up at the end. 1514 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:39,559 Speaker 4: Hot. 1515 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 3: Now, okay, let's call it there. Check out task is 1516 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 3: what do you need to know in your podcast feed 1517 01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 3: on our YouTube channel if you haven't already, As I 1518 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,360 Speaker 3: said the Beach Step in podcast, we'll drop that in 1519 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,519 Speaker 3: your feed a little bit later today. It's a lot 1520 01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,639 Speaker 3: of fun. It might be a little weird at first 1521 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 3: to hear us, like getting excited about a potential hard 1522 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 3: and trade coming early on and then reacting when it 1523 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,800 Speaker 3: happens right at the end, but there are some really 1524 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 3: great questions you guys sent in and we had a 1525 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 3: lot of laughs within that. So go and listen to that. 1526 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 3: Go get your no dunks merch no dunks dot com, 1527 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 3: subscribe to the Athletic, Go to the Athletic dot com 1528 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 3: slash no Dunks. We'll call it there. We'll be back 1529 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 3: tomorrow on a Friday with the Drop podcast. JD my Man, Yeah, 1530 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:23,760 Speaker 3: very real quick. 1531 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,280 Speaker 6: I know we're running late, but this stream team was 1532 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,479 Speaker 6: going a little bit crazy for the orange that is 1533 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 6: floating in front of tray, so I whipped something up 1534 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 6: to make it look a little less weird. 1535 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,200 Speaker 3: Yes, Tray's like, uh, you know the sleeve? What do 1536 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:49,680 Speaker 3: you call that on your microphone? It's yeah, windsuck, thank you? 1537 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 3: Looking like an orange. I thought it looked like an 1538 01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 3: egg when we first jumped on earlier, but I could 1539 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,080 Speaker 3: see an orange for sure. And now JD for anyone listening, 1540 01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,600 Speaker 3: has put a pineapple for JD? Is that from the 1541 01:09:58,600 --> 01:09:59,800 Speaker 3: Gold Coast? I believe it is. 1542 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 1: Believe it. 1543 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got the apple. And Lee, of course he's 1544 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,559 Speaker 3: got his banana to go to leave. Oh, I guess 1545 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 3: you can? You go to Lee? Just because I was 1546 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 3: gonna say, I'd like to see him take a big chomp. 1547 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,439 Speaker 5: Out of that. 1548 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:20,880 Speaker 3: Oh there, Lee, Oh first, I just want you to take 1549 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 3: a big chomp right in the middle. There you go. Hey, 1550 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 3: all you podcast listeners, see what you're missing here? 1551 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:30,439 Speaker 2: All right? 1552 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 3: Showed it to the stream team. Great work, j D, 1553 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:33,120 Speaker 3: clip or Bro. 1554 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,080 Speaker 6: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up, 1555 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:37,960 Speaker 6: Love you guys awesome. 1556 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, and remember RBS are rebounds, roast 1557 01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 1: Beef and riddick Bow. 1558 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:47,120 Speaker 3: Embrace the day people. 1559 01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:48,720 Speaker 2: You could stay. 1560 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:56,760 Speaker 6: Every day, day happy, every. 1561 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,040 Speaker 2: It's been so long, You're no one not waiting for 1562 01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:05,680 Speaker 2: it's happened already. 1563 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 8: It's gonna be good meat.