1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Joel. Hopefully you know me if 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: you're here. If not, Hi, executive produced this show. I 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: am so excited for what we have in store for 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: you today. Donald has a show, as we've talked about 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: quite a lot Alabama Jackson. It's out right the heck. 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Now you can go listen to it. It's actually a 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: TV show so you can watch it, which is great, 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: and we're so excited. He brought so many of his 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: good friends here and we are elated to have an 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: opportunity to bring you, guys a sense of comedy and 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: laughter and of course to uplift our friend Donald. Like guys, 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: if he worked so hard, put everything everything else on 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: the back burner to deliver a show that is full 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: of his passion, full of his drive. It really pushed 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: him as an artist, you know, and it's I think 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: he's bearing a lot of his soul in it. It's 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: an incredible like the laughs per second are through the roof. 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: You're gonna love it. I digress. We're to talk about 19 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: all of that in the show, but before we get 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: to that, I want to take a little bit of 21 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: time to explain why our other best friend, Zach isn't here. 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: If you follow him on Instagram, then you're aware that 23 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: he recently lost a friend to suicide. It's devastating if 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: you've ever had to go through it, it's a lot 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: to mentally process, it's a lot to try to examine, 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: and so he's taking time to grieve and to do that. 27 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: It's been a really hard couple of years. Suicide rates 28 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: are and all time high, and we just wanted to acknowledge, 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: first love of that friendship, and second to encourage you 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: if you're having suicidal thoughts, if you know somebody who's 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: having suicidal thoughts, to please, please, please, please reach out 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: for help. You are so worth the time and the 33 00:01:53,840 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: effort to feel better, to have a full and happy life, 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: and hopefully help isn't too far out of reach. If 35 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: you're in America, you can call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. 36 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: That number is one eight hundred two seven three eight 37 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: two five five. Again it's eight hundred two seven three 38 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: eight two five five. So our thoughts and love are 39 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: with Zach as he's working through this difficult time, and 40 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: of course to anybody else you know trying to grieve 41 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: a loved one or struggling to lift themselves up. It's 42 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: a lot of work. We see you, We love that 43 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: you're trying, and we're with you. Okay, now we're going 44 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: to do some laughs. You're going to hear a lot 45 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: of love between a lot of people who've worked really 46 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: hard to bring something special into this world. And I 47 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: love that we can share that with you guys. So, 48 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: without further ado, please enjoy a very special episode of 49 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: Fake Doctor's Real Friends The Alabama Jackson Story. Here's some 50 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: stories about show we made about a bunch of doctor nurses, said, 51 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: he's the stories. So yeadoo around you. Here, a yadoo 52 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: around you. Here a few show m. Well, well well 53 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: look at this, look at this, Look at what we 54 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: have here, Daniel Joel, I like to introduce you to 55 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: Chris and Harbor teen. Pleasure to meet you. This is 56 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: These are the stupid buddy guys right here. Harve is 57 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: is the is the one of the head hot jest. Yeah, 58 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: he's like that. We got we got one of the 59 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: owners up on this piece right now. Oh shit, it's 60 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you both, truly, well, uh it is. 61 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm such a huge fan of what you guys do 62 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: on the podcasts. And uh yeah, so this is so 63 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: cool that that I'm even like, uh um a small 64 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: part of this and Donald, you kicked us in that 65 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: commercial and how great was it that played? And then 66 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: you're played right after right after? That's crazy And I 67 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: didn't even know. I didn't know you were in a commercial, 68 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: did you? You You didn't tell us, did you? I didn't 69 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: tell anyone. Okay, if the first you guys were what 70 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: were you guys talking about before we record? What were 71 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: you guys talking about? Is that what? Yeah? We were, 72 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: so we talked about that as our big news and 73 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: the thing that you that you beaked out, okay, because 74 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I thought maybe uh my mind 75 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: went right to doctor Acula. I was like, oh shit, 76 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: oh my god, Yo, you're speaking the language. Man, everybody 77 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: would go crazy if that's what it. I think doctor 78 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: Acculus should be. I think you guys should do a 79 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: Doctor Acculus special of the part. But if we did 80 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: a Doctor Acculus stop motion animated special, dude, that's what 81 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: we get puppets that look like me and Zach and 82 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: we freaking make a Doctor Accular movie. I told my 83 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: my fifteen year old about this podcast, and she was 84 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: she's a huge fan because of Hulu. She watches Scrubs 85 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: and she called you guys kings, you and you and 86 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: Zach Kings and she like, my dream is for her 87 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: to call me a king because she any anyway cool. 88 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: So that's like, so I know that you guys thought 89 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: it was it was it was more. It was more 90 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: because it was his friend's son or whatever. But all 91 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: the kids, all the kids in high school are watching Scrubs. 92 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: It's it's it's a retro cool, I hope. So, because 93 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: it really feels like friends in the office are leading 94 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: the way when it comes to what the kids are 95 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: watching nowadays. Let me introduce you guys, guys to Harbor 96 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: Team and Chris Waters. Uh. These guys both work at 97 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: Stupid Buddy Studios. Harbor Team is an owner of Stupid 98 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: Buddy Studios. And Chris, what would you say your role 99 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: is because you have a bunch of hats in this situation, 100 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: Like you and I sat down and we did the 101 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: development together and then you jumped on as a writer 102 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: after that In Alabama, Jackson, what would I'm just Joel, 103 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm all over the place. We should really start by saying, 104 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: welcome to fake Doctor's Real Friends special episode of Alabama Jackson, 105 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: the new fast paced, stop motion animated comedy series on 106 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: Adult Swim's YouTube platform, which premieres today. Wait, thunderous applause, 107 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: dential thunderous applause for this tomorrow today is tomorrow. Yeah. 108 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, yeah, yeah, And on the show 109 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: we have with us, Harve, who is the king of uh? 110 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you king? How about that? Who is 111 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: the king? You like that it's a little much the 112 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: prince of animation? Well, I'm gonna say king because in 113 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: this situation, you are the two people that I were 114 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: my go to guys, and then Seth when he gets 115 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: on here. Also, you guys are champions of the Alabama 116 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Jackson cause. And so you know, I mean a lot 117 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: of people could have jumped on, but Harve the fact 118 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: that you volunteered to step up and be a part 119 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: of this, and Chris the fact that you volunteered to 120 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: step up. And then, ladies and gentlemen, let's give a 121 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: round of applause. Thunderous round of applause for Seth Green 122 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: y'all the applause the period Now thunderous applause, Dan thunderous, 123 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: A motherfucking motherfucking we got him on the podcast. Who 124 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: else is on this? I see Chris, I see Harve, 125 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: I see Joel. Let me introduce you guys. Daniel. That's Daniel, 126 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: we call it, we call him Daniel. Daniel. How'd you 127 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: get saddled with that long story from a fifth grade start? 128 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: Tell us nobody knows, don't worry about it? Shows at 129 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: you today? Do you want to talk a little bit 130 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: about how Alabama Jackson like came into being and how 131 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: these guys got involved. Yeah, okay, so that's a that's 132 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: a that's actually a great segue. H Alabama Jackson started. 133 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a huge fan of Raiders at a 134 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: Lost Art. Everybody knows that I love Harrison Ford. He's 135 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: one of my favorite actors of all time. When I 136 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: first started as an actor, I Eddie Murphy, Denzel Washington 137 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: and Harrison Ford or three people who I tried to 138 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: mimic a lot, you know, in my comedy, in my 139 00:08:54,120 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: physical uh movements, and in you know I and then 140 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: and then the seriousness of Dential I just wanted to 141 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: those were the three that I tried to always be like. 142 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: And Indiana Jones just seemed like one of those movies 143 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: where I was like, man, there's so much black history 144 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: out there, and this dude's chasing after it, like he 145 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: chased after the Ark of the Covenant that started. That's 146 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: an eat apparently according to myth Now that's in Ethiopia, 147 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: according to I don't know if you guys know this, Yeah, 148 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: but the art is in Africa. Yeah, but that's I love. 149 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: I love the archaeological shit where they where they dig 150 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: up the bones and my most the thing I'm the 151 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: most passionate about his old civilizations and like instances of 152 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: humans on all other parts of the planet and how 153 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: the culture seemed to evolve even though there was oceans 154 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: between them, which is why there's that whole Pangaea argument 155 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: that they weren't moving, that they were all just sort 156 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: of in the same region before natural geological phenomenon separated 157 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: to the connant. Right, But the like the fact that 158 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: a thousand years ago, three thousand years ago, a million 159 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: million years ago, another human being was in this spot 160 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: to win some shit and now you're standing there. That 161 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: blows my mind. It's one of my favorite things. So 162 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: I love to travel. Yeah, I love Indiana Jones for 163 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: the fantasy, not necessarily the history of it though, you 164 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I always thought it was 165 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: you talk about in the fantasy a punch of Nazis 166 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: in the Facebook. Yeah, man, this one dude, this one 167 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: dude taking on a freaking whole army by himself with 168 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: a bull whip and six bullets. And when a dude 169 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: but also gets his ask, which was when made him 170 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: lovable right right, because he was stumbling and bumbling his 171 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: way through it all. Yeah, And I was like, wouldn't 172 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: it be great if we if we created a black 173 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: version of this. Here's exactly how it happened. We're all 174 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: on this panel and they're like, hey, what are you 175 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: guys up to you? What are you doing next? We're 176 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 1: all like, we're doing this. This is the season of 177 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: Robot Chicken, and Donald loves stop motion and this that 178 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: another thing. And they were like, well, Donald, what would 179 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: you do with you? What are you gonna do? And 180 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: he goes, you know what I really want to do 181 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: is a black Indiana Jones called Alabama Jackson. And then 182 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: everybody exploded in laughter, and then we went on to 183 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: whatever the next question was. I saw sten Riich's face 184 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: on the panel and go like this and then and 185 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: he said, hey, do you think that's a show. And 186 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: I said, fuck yes, I think that's a show. And 187 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: he said, let's call Donald when the second this is over. 188 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: So that's what we did. We we called Donald. We're like, hey, dude, 189 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: a black Indiana Jones called Alabama Jackson is something. Let's 190 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: talk about what you really mean? What do you really mean? 191 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: And Donald started talking about how because we were all 192 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: in that place of like, I don't know enough about 193 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: my own history. You were in fighting about nuance of 194 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: like cultures. And what Donald said was I want to 195 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: tell the story of a modern black man who has 196 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: all of these preconceptions and assumptions and is living the 197 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: life of a modern black man, and he gets forced 198 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: into a position where he has to learn and appreciate 199 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: Black history, like from somebody like Harriet Tubman. And he said, 200 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: it's like I wanted to be like Quantum Leap, right, 201 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: He's got to go back and learn some shit and 202 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: solve some shit. And I was like, have you ever 203 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: watched Timeless on NBC because it's a show about right, 204 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: but it was an organization of supposed evildoers traveling back 205 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: in time to fuck up history. And then the people 206 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: that they had stolen the time travel tech from had 207 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: their beta model to chase them through time. The rules 208 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: of the time travel were very specifically laid out. He 209 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: can never return to the same point twice. You can't 210 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: like recorrect something that's already been shifted in a timeline. 211 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: So it's constantly chasing these these anarchists through time. And 212 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: I was like, that's your fucking move, Like you've got 213 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: you've got somebody actively trying to destroy Black history. And 214 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: Donald looked it up and he's like, well, the worst 215 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: motherfucker was Woodrow Wilson. Yeah, but we were like, well, 216 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: that's a great villain. That's a great villain. But then 217 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't remember who came up with the cap that's 218 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: that Ashley Ray will be on the show later on. 219 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: She's the one that came up with the Cake caball 220 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: and then and then the idea of the Black Cabinet 221 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: is an actual historic concept us make it's a there's 222 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: a lot of plausible reality in this that an organization 223 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: called the Black Cabinet that has time travel is chasing 224 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: Woodrow Wilson, who also has time travel and the Cake 225 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: Cake caball through time trying to save black history while 226 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: it is actively being trying to be destroyed. I'm like, 227 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: this is a fucking great show, right, so nobody, but 228 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: you're right, nobody wants to give you money, right, very 229 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: very exciting. It's very hard to convince somebody on a 230 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: pitch that something is good. So our whole thing is, yes, 231 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: is always let's make something. Let's make it and show 232 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: you exactly what it is, because otherwise it's it's up 233 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: to your imagination, your context, and whatever experience you've had 234 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: up until that moment. So we talked to adults. Women 235 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: were like, hey, how does this get Listen? I know 236 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: you won't give us a pilot. I know we're not 237 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: going to get a pilot script written. We want to 238 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: make a proof of concept that has value to the company. 239 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: How do we do that? Then we started talking to 240 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: mechanics of it. So it literally came down to us 241 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: negotiating for about twenty minutes of content that we could 242 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: break up anyway we want it. And we're like, we 243 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: do these in shorts, and that way it's not a 244 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: single episode. You can show several instances gain minor character 245 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: development even in a one to three minute episode that's 246 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: going to prove the show. So that's what we've done. 247 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: We've got seven episodes. There is a meaningful arc for 248 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: each of the characters. Plus you see how it would 249 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: work in series. Our goal is a half hour. But 250 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: more than anything, I'm so proud of this motherfucker, not 251 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: just because he's such a hard worker, not just because 252 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: he's so talented, but because he had this idea, he's 253 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: been so passionate about it and he's really worked his 254 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: ass out. This is hard work, guys, and half his 255 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: family which is which is also I gotta give it back. 256 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: I gotta give it back though, you know what I 257 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: mean Like that, this was one of those things where 258 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: it was like, look, you gotta show up every day, 259 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: and when you show up, you got to bring something 260 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: to the table. I'm not that dude. I'm not the 261 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: dude that even shows up. I'm the dude that's like, 262 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: what are we doing? Yeah, this is one of those 263 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: moments where it was it was a come to moment 264 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: where it was like, dude, you gotta be better than 265 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: you've ever been. And even though this is a small medium, 266 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: like you know what we're doing, We're hoping a lot 267 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: of people view it we'll see how it plays out 268 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah, the huge idea, I know, But the 269 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: window is so small. The window is so small though, 270 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I do. I do because this is 271 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: a moment when people are interested in something like this, 272 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: and what we've been able to achieve is something that 273 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: is not academically preachy. It's fun. You like this character. 274 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: You're getting a very relatable POV from a modern human 275 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: being who is you know, we all over the last 276 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: couple of years have dealt with a tremendous amount of 277 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: forced shame for what we have an experienced, for the 278 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: mistakes that we've made, for what we don't already know. 279 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: And there used to be a lot more basic forgiveness. 280 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: You take one position or another, there's a there's a 281 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: way that we get to present this, a way that 282 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: we get to make it. And the hack is to 283 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: just do it to figure because you try and get 284 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: through all these multi layers of the corporation, to all 285 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: the different companies, especially as they're getting gobbled by each other, 286 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: you have four hundred levels of people who have to 287 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: both see it, read it, and sign off on it. 288 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: I hate that ship. I can't can't waste time like that. 289 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: So like, if you think about how short the turnaround 290 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: is from us on that panel tomorrow when this show 291 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: is released today, today, today, today, today, today, Daniel, can 292 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: you edit that time is a perfect eight. That's why 293 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: alamman period can travel. So for the listeners out there, 294 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: the three gentlemen that we have on the show today, 295 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: I've known for a bit. So I did a movie 296 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: called Clueless a while back with Brecken Meyer, who Seth 297 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: Green is best friends with, and uh, one night, Uh 298 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: this is this is sincerely how it happened. Uh, Seth goes. 299 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: Seth says you should go out on a date with 300 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: my sister, and I was like, okay, oh my god, 301 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: I have no clue. You're a good dude. Man. My 302 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: sister was always bringing home like the worst right, But 303 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: I had only met you once at this point, you 304 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I bought, but we did vide, 305 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: but we did vibe, no doubt. Breckon was like, hey, 306 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna love this kid, And the second I saw you, 307 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah right, And so he invites 308 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: me on. He invites me on a date with his sister. 309 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: We go on the date and after the date, she's 310 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: like let's go back to Seth's house and to Seth's apartment. 311 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: And this is when the first time we ever, Like 312 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: we kicked it a little bit before, but this was 313 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 1: like the time that we really kicked and I got 314 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: to tell my jokes. I got to be We're like 315 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: twenty I'm not even twenty one yet. Yeah, and then 316 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 1: uh so we hang out and you know, Seth and 317 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: I have a we have like a there's a thing 318 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: that's happening where we kind of get each other's jokes 319 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: and it's like we have the same sense of humor. 320 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: We exchange numbers. I go back to New York. I'm 321 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: calling Seth Green on the phone like once or twice 322 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: a week, you know what I mean. I'm calling Breckin 323 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: on the phone once or twice a week, Like, guys, man, 324 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: I miss you all. Like, you know, Seth comes to 325 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: New York, fucking comes to New York. We're kicking it 326 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: in New York. You come someone when I got to 327 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: go to your like I was at your mom's on Thanksgiving. 328 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: Yeah it was you know, it was a new it 329 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: was it was New Year's it was New Year's Eve, 330 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: and you can't So that's like nineties seven. Dude, I 331 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: don't clueless nineties eight. I think it's the same year 332 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: Clueless came out, So I'm not exactly sure it was 333 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: that ninety nine even I don't. I don't even know, dude, 334 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: I can so I was right. So that New Year's 335 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: is probably like ninety six, yeah, because I was here 336 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: with Ryan. Yeah. So you come through and my best 337 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: friend growing up, this girl Jessica Macardo and Seth hug 338 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: And I'm like, how the fuck do you know each other? Guys? 339 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: And She's like from auditions back in the day. I 340 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: was like, Seth that lives in La Seth goes, I 341 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: grew up in Philly. I'm like, oh shit, right, So 342 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: the connection was the connection was always there, right, And 343 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: so time goes forward, time goes forward, Seth starts doing 344 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: this thing called Sweet Jay with Mat and Breckin and 345 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: just a little bit of context in In ninety nine, 346 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: Sony Digital was trying to develop a linear content precursor 347 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: to YouTube. They were convinced that the Internet was a 348 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: place where people would be viewing stuff, and everybody was investing, 349 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, negligible amounts of money to see what you 350 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: could really do. It was still dial up, but we 351 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: talked Sony Digital into giving us about forty six thousand 352 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: dollars to produce the equivalent of thirty nine minutes of 353 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: content and the same thing, like, you can break it 354 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: up however you want, like one episode, twenty episodes. So 355 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: what we wound up doing was making God, how many 356 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: shorts do you remember? It all predates anybody. Matt would 357 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: be the only one that knows those stumps. The point 358 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: is we made what would become the proof of concept 359 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: for Robot Chicken. I made a deal with Sony Digital 360 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: lawyers to be able to sell our thing anywhere else, 361 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: and then we tried to sell it to SNL, Matt TV, 362 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: MTV Comedy. We had a deal with Comedy, and then 363 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: September eleventh happened. They were like, hey, we're just not 364 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: gonna do this, so all rights reverted. We sat on it. 365 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: Matt and I had like three or four years, and 366 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: then it was Seth McFarlane making the deal after Family 367 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: Guy had been canceled the first time. Seth mcfarlande made 368 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: a deal with Mike Lazo, the head of the Adult Swim, 369 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: to air the aired and unaired episodes of Family Guy 370 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: on Adult Swim. It blew up so big. How it 371 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: was even before that Maverick called me. Seth McFarlane calls 372 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: me and says, hey, do you know these Adult Swim guys? 373 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: And I said, I don't know why I'm doing this, 374 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: I said, I said, yeah, we already brought because because 375 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: Maverick had done a voice on Sweet j like he 376 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: was in our shorts. Because it was just like us 377 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: gang banging this independent production together. He called me and said, 378 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: YouTube pitch to Adult Swim. I said, we already pitched 379 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: the cartoon network. We got passed on and no, no, no no, 380 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: there's a whole new thing. They're buying the old episodes. 381 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: A family guy go pitch to them. So Matt and 382 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: I go pitch to Keith Crawford and Mike Lazo, and 383 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: in an unprecedented move, they contracted us to make twenty 384 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: quarter hours of what would become the first season of 385 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: Robot Chicken. That's the story. That's fucking crazy, dude, because 386 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: it's kind of like the same thing in a lot 387 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: of ways. You guys would jump through a way more 388 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: hoops than I had to. But you are to do this, buddy, 389 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: You've had it so fucking easy. None of this shit's 390 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: supposed to happen. That's the crazy thing. None of this 391 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: shit happens this way. It's a terrible standard for ourselves 392 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: by being able to achieve this on this budget. Yeah, 393 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: like with the case we're gonna have to make to 394 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: anybody for our half hours, We've almost we've almost made 395 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: too beautiful of a show. I love that. I love 396 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: that we have almost done that, and it's can't wait 397 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: for you guys to watch it. You've added very easy though, 398 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: And you know what, Donald, that's the only way I wanted. 399 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: I want to protect you from all of this. Thank 400 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: you for that, and I thank you for that. I 401 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: thank you for that. So Harve I met at Shadow Machine, right, 402 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: That's where we met, and he was animating on robot Chicken, 403 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: Am I correct? And Towner right and Eric and uh 404 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: and so you know, as time went on, I really 405 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: dot dove into the stop motion animation game, like I 406 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: really am trying to become a better stop motion animated. 407 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 1: Like my goal is to be able to animate my 408 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: own stuff, you know what I mean, Even though it 409 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: takes forever, but like when if Alabama Jackson goes to series, 410 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: I'd like to animate it, on it, animate on it, 411 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's just how I should right, 412 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: That's like, that's like Lucille Ball saying no, no, I've 413 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: got to be the one to build his dress. Well, 414 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: you know, there are some there are some artists that 415 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: I get it, and that I get it and stuff. 416 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: Why won't you just let me make a joke? I'm 417 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: not I know, I get it. I let you make 418 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: a joke. I got it. You got the joke out, 419 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: You got the joke out. Passionate artists clearly and so hard. 420 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: When I stepped away from Shadow Machine and uh, you 421 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: know when Robot Chicken left Shadow Machine. Yeah, you guys, 422 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: happen just to consolidate that we had one hundred episode 423 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: or rather Shadow had one hundred episode production contract with 424 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: Adult Swim, so at the end of five seasons, at 425 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: the end of one hundred episodes, Matt and I had 426 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: to decide whether we were going to produce a sixth 427 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: season at all, and if so, were we going to 428 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: do it at Shadow And you know, Matt I had 429 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: sort of realized how little actual governance we had over 430 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: the mood and the sentiment, and because we were becoming 431 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: so close with all these artists, we noticed that there 432 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: was a manner in which things were untracted or organized 433 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: or built at a core level that we just had 434 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: a different philosophy about It's it's it's not a this 435 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: way or that way, it's it's just the way you 436 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: want to do business, right. So we um decided. We 437 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: realized because Harvan Towner had broken off themselves, both successful animators, 438 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: very talented artists, had broken off and made a little 439 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: boutique production shop like a mini studio with a full 440 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: development capability but also the ability to shoot stages and 441 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: experiment with shit. And they were doing such like cool 442 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: experimental stuff and they were like, I don't know, let's 443 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: just try to see if this worked on Oh, let's 444 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: just do this. And we were so excited by that. 445 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: This was the idea that Matt and I came to 446 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: harvardtown Or were like, this is a big risk, guys, 447 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: but if the four of us as artists create a 448 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: collective that is dedicated to just making these projects as 449 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: best we can, creating this ip, developing these concepts, working 450 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: with our friends, and most of all, governing the mood, 451 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: the manner, the spirit, the culture of the place, that's 452 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: what we wanted. So that's where we broke off and 453 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: formed SPS, and then we've produced the last six seasons 454 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: of Robot There and everything else, Crossing Swords, Buddy, Thunderstruck, everything, 455 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: everything's been done here like it's opened up. You guys 456 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: are freaking animating for the Mandalorian now, like you guys 457 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: are freaking doing your thing. Dude, But Harve, can you 458 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: tell us about how you guys started, because it's really 459 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: it's a really interesting story. You know, the studio has 460 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: a camper as a as a Winnebago as it's one 461 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: of its logos and stuff like that. Can you tell 462 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: us where that came from? Well, it started with me 463 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: and Tanner, who were Buddy System Studios, and we formed 464 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: that because in animation and stop motion you can't just 465 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: it's hard to do something yourself. You gotta team up 466 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: with someone. So we really believed if we team up together, 467 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: we get our friends together, like a Buddy System, that 468 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: we can do projects. And Matt and Seth were Stupid Monkey, 469 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: so when we teamed up together, it's Buddy System meets 470 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: Stupid Monkey, so we became Stupid Buddy Studios. That's kind 471 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: of where the name came from, and when we all 472 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: came together, we'd love the idea of camping and togetherness 473 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: and like having an adventure. So the Bago, the Winnebago 474 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: became kind of our spirit animal, kind of the true 475 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: North and where we're going. It's the it's the real 476 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: ride that we're all taken together. So the Winnebago was 477 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: kind of like our jam. So that's where I'm sitting 478 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: right now, is in in our original Winnebago that me 479 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: and toowner had when we were teaming up doing projects 480 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: just together on really scrappy budgets. It kind of became 481 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: the symbol for the studio, which and that's that's inside 482 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: the building that we animated Alamaba Jackson in, right, But 483 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: how did you get that inside the How did you 484 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: get it inside the door? First of all, well, back 485 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: then the doors were big and there was no enclosure, 486 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: so we drove it in and then we parked it 487 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: over here right next to the window, so I can 488 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: see outside of a beautiful burbank. But then we sealed 489 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: it up. We sealed up the doors so we can 490 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: have a shop and puppet department all that kind of stuff. 491 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: So and then we also had to take out the engine, 492 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: so this thing is not operational. It's stuck in here. 493 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: So whenever we leave this building, we might have to 494 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: just to light a match or just walk away. I 495 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: don't really know because out of here, well, yeah, we 496 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: drank it out. And then so so when you guys 497 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: formed the company, Chris, were you there already or did 498 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: you come much late? Like how recent? I can't I was. 499 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: I joined up in twenty fifteen, and it was actually 500 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: originally it was just to help with one project. It 501 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: was this insane short that Town and Harvard made a 502 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: buddy systems called Micromahan, which is incredible. People just look 503 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: that up on Vima. But yeah, so I joined up 504 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: to help develop that, and then I love the ethos 505 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: of the place. I you know, I had worked a 506 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: lot in animation and CG animation and just seeing a 507 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: place where you had people like building stuff, you know, 508 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: carpenters and grips and like it felt like a little 509 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: live action, like a miniature of live action studio, and 510 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: I was, I was just fascinated by that. So we 511 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: and we hit it off, and slowly but surely I 512 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: sort of started taking on more and more projects and 513 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: then for the last three years, I've been head of development, 514 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: so I had I helped develop all the TV shows 515 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: and features and all the fun stuff that we're working 516 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: on at the studio because let's go, I teamed up 517 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: with these guys because when we might undersell himself, undersell himself. 518 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: But Chris is one of the most special people that 519 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: I have ever gotten the privilege of working with. And 520 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: he's so good at this job and every aspect. It's 521 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: a very difficult job to do development because you have 522 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: to be both curious and have boundless energy and have 523 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: a very patient temperament and be a good You have 524 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: to be nice. You have to be nice because you're 525 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: convincing people to do shit they don't want to do 526 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: all the time. And then you really have to be 527 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: able to lead with your heart and get emotionally invested 528 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: in something which is scary to do as a person, 529 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: especially on behalf of a fucking TV show. So Chris like, 530 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: it's it's been a godsend. We feel like we are 531 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: making the kind of stuff that we want to make, 532 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: that we are putting the right kind of time and 533 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: effort in the right place. So and I used to 534 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: I used to get jealous when I found out Chris 535 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: was working on other projects, no bullshit, because it felt 536 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 1: like it felt like it was just me. When I 537 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: was with Chris, you know what I mean. He makes 538 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: you feel good. He makes it feel like, dude, it's 539 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: just you and me, baby, it's you and me baby. 540 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: And then he goes behind my back and he's working 541 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: with other people like I I was with. I was 542 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: talking about Sorry Donald, I just got off the phone 543 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: with Disney. Plus, I was like, wait to say, it's 544 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: Donald Donald. It's called polyamory and it's perfectly acceptable. Dude. 545 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: He didn't inform me that we were in a polly 546 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: relationship over that happen. If I would have known that, 547 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: I would have been like, all, I bet it's made. 548 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: He made it seem like that it was just me, 549 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: And when I found out that it wasn't run Rue, 550 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: I wanted him more. Yeah, obviously. Two. This is the 551 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: this is the crazy part. It made me realize, Oh, 552 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: this motherfucker works harder than I do. This dude works hard. 553 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,239 Speaker 1: This is one of the hardest motherfucking workers that I 554 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: know right now. And because he would be able to 555 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: be so invested in my thing, and then jump on 556 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: a call with somebody else and be so invested in 557 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: their thing, and then jump on another call with somebody 558 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: else and be so invested in their thing, and then 559 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: jump on another call. Like the list is endless. I 560 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: was like, how many shows do you have about right now? 561 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: He's like, I got quite a few in uh that 562 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm juggling right now, and Alabama was one of them. 563 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: And I just I'll say it is I'll say this, Donald, 564 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: you made it easy. Like the only thing we do 565 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: at super Body is stuff that we really believe in, 566 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: and you were You're so passionate about animation. This is 567 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: such a clear idea, Like we always want to get 568 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: behind an idea that's just really clear, and it's funny 569 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: as how. I think it's perfect for the energy you 570 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: bring to every you know, whether you're buying coffee and 571 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: donuts for the whole crew or buying lunch for the 572 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: whole crew. Like you dove into this and it was 573 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: super easy to support you in making this crazy ass show. 574 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: So it's been a blast. And yeah, we want to 575 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: make more of an adult swim listening adult swim. We're 576 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: gonna get started, We're gonna take a break and we'll 577 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: be right back. Yo, we're back. We should probably talk 578 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: about the show at some point, right, yeah, Hey, how 579 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: soon are we allowed to start posting the opening? Right? 580 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: Isn't that a thing we're gonna do? Like preview? We 581 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: have to we gotta have to talk to adults from 582 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, you could? You could play theme song? 583 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: You can play the theme song, right can? I can 584 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 1: we for people to listen to the Yeah? Yeah, right, 585 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: Danil play three song right now? Play theme song right now? 586 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: The Jack sign. He's a time trampling man doing a 587 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: biss that he came woodbrue Wison hates blacks Harry has 588 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: got his back oma sat in black. His story, Alabama 589 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: Jackson jets. That's what I'm talking about, y'all. That's what 590 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm motherfucking talking about. That's good. Yea facta put up, 591 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: put up. I don't think they heard it. Dannel play 592 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: one more time? He baba Jack sign. He's a time 593 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: trampling man doing a biss that he came woodbrue Wison 594 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 1: hates blacks Harry has got his back oma sat in black. 595 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: His story. He Lobamba Jackson, Lama jets. That's one of 596 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: the things Donald is like the as this started coming together, 597 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: as it really started coming together, like when we got Wanda, 598 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: when when I heard the music for the first time, 599 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: when I saw the way we're gonna get to use 600 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: the monitors and the sliders, and I saw the puppets, 601 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: I was like, God, this is really gonna fucking work. 602 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: And as we've been putting the footage together, you've been 603 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: the exact amount of both patient and hard working. You're 604 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: a really good producer. And I know this is an 605 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: easy dude, Like I warned you, but you have not 606 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: shied away at all from responsibility. I truly followed your 607 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: lead man, no doubt, and I think that, Oh I 608 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: love you, know I love you. You know I love 609 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: you too. What you do. Don't get mushy, don't get mushy, 610 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: don't get mushy. Don't you get mushy. Guys, he actually 611 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: said it. I say it all the time. Fuck you. 612 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: I say it all the time. Every time we hang up, 613 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: I say it, every time I see you. I say it. 614 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 1: Don't even because all of so many of our friends 615 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: have died that I never missed a chance to tell 616 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: you how much I love you. That just got really dark, dude, 617 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: did it. Yeah, it kind of did it kind of 618 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: did kind of did it kind of did well? You 619 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 1: never with me? Fine, Well you'll always know that, dude. 620 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: That's a double negative. What does that mean You'll never 621 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: not know never not. Yeah, you'll always never not. I 622 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: mean you'll always know, got it? Yeah? Never times it's 623 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: appropriate to make a double negative to emphasize you get 624 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: it to j D Joel Daniel. Yes, before we have 625 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: a very I know, we haven't just edit all this out. 626 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: Is there anything is there anything we didn't Is there 627 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: anything we didn't cover that we're supposed to cover on 628 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: this uh, this first port um, well, you know, I 629 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: think you guys you spoke a lot about why you 630 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: guys came together and why you you know, like this 631 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: initial idea. I think we could probably end on what 632 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: you guys are hoping to see from fan reactions, you know, 633 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: and and maybe you know, Donald, if there's like maybe 634 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: maybe we can get more into that with your mom. 635 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: But like what lessons you're hoping people takeaway since you're 636 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: dealing with actual history right on. H To be honest 637 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: with you, for the for the fans out there, what's 638 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: important for me is that you guys just check it out. 639 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll absorb into your into your into your brains, 640 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: and you will. And I really do believe you'll come 641 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: back for the next episode, and then the next episode, 642 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: and then the next episode. But getting you to watch 643 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: the first episode is my goal. That's my true goal. 644 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: And then we'll see how it all plays out, you 645 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think we've got a really 646 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: dope show that has a lot of you know, it's 647 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: fast paced, it's got it's got action, and then it's 648 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: got a little bit of a history lesson in there 649 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: for everybody. But it's, as Seth said, it's not preachy. 650 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: We're not in your face talking about it, you know. 651 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 1: And so mind you got Donald, plus you got Donald 652 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: the want of Pikes, and well then there's Donald and 653 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: Seth Green, Right, that's a dynamite cast already, that is it. 654 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: And we've also been bringing on a really cool guest cast. Um, 655 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: it's I'm so back and proud of this man. I'm 656 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: so proud of this, like because it's we we both 657 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: grew up on a lot of these shows. The eighties 658 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: was a very different time where entertainment programming was focused 659 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: on a bit of education, mixed in a little bit 660 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: of like basic guidance for how to be a person, 661 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: how to be kind, how to not put too much 662 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: sauce on your food, or how to even acknowledge when 663 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 1: you've made a mistake and move forward, and because knowing 664 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: is half the battle. The more the more you know, 665 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: you know. It's somewhat along the two thousands that, like 666 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: programming became more about catching eyes from the news to 667 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: the tabloids, like it became all about sensationalization, and so 668 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 1: the the the opportunity to give little bits of real history, 669 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: like basic history too, in a way that doesn't feel educational, 670 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: in a way that feels like you've got an emotional 671 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: investment than it, like you need to know more, like 672 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: you're learning along with this character from a series of 673 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: experts that was a really it's just Ocdonald. It's come 674 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 1: together very well and I can't wait for I'm so 675 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: excited for people. I am and with that. And we 676 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: did we did take liberties, we did take liberties. So 677 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: so I think it's like the great and then it's 678 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: an occasionally true story I want everyone to know because 679 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: because tell the true first, we're talking about here dogs, right, 680 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: I feel like, I feel like we're overpaizing educational components 681 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: of this and that. Well, no, that I'm not. There's just, 682 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: like I said, there's just a little bit of history 683 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: in there that people might not have known or they 684 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,720 Speaker 1: did know. You know, a lot a lot of people 685 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: don't know that Woodrow Wilson was a very racist president. 686 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: He just so happened to be like, yeah, like the racist. 687 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: What did the lawyers, what did the lawyers saying that? 688 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 1: When we were trying to get this cleared, the lawyers 689 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: were like, well he's here's a notorious racist. So this 690 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: is fine. So we're not well documented. Yeah, we're not 691 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: well document that he was very racist. So because in 692 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: the theme song, if you guys listen, there's a line 693 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: Woodrow Wilson hates blacks, and it's true. That's all that's 694 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: all needs the same. Yeah, okay, So I love the 695 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: most about the theme song. Is it as just the facts? Man? Yeah? Yeah, 696 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: doing the best blacks, Harry's got his back history. Come on, yeah, 697 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 1: Alabama Jackson. With that, let's bring in the theme song writer, 698 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: uh Bert and my mom. We'll be joining us right now, 699 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, This zoom and podcast is getting so crowded. 700 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 1: But that's how we do here on Fake Doctors Real Friends. 701 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: This is a very special episode of Fake Doctor's Real Friends. 702 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Shirley Faison and 703 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: Bert Price. Oh, thunders, applause, thunders, applause. Ma, you see 704 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: he's on. Are you with me? Yes? Christ see Chris Seth. 705 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: When's the last time you saw Seth? We were on 706 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: that one zoom early on in real life it's been 707 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: quite star Yeah, yeah, yes, Mom, Tell everybody where you're 708 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: at right now. I'm in my office. Well, what's what's 709 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: this office? That? Okay? Okay, So during the pandemic, I 710 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: decided to open my own talent agency thunderous applause dental. 711 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: So I'm Seth after a pretty fland child. So, if 712 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: you're out there and you need an agent, and you 713 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: might be in the metropolitan area or in the Tri 714 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: state area, Shirley Phason, what's the name of your agency? Oh, 715 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: A Dooty Rose Talent Agency, A Dooney Rose Talent Agency. 716 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: Do you want to give them? Is there something a 717 00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: website or something? Yes, it's called a Dooty Rose Talent 718 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: dot com A d U M M I r O 719 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: S E. Talent t A l e nt dot com. 720 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: Thunderous applause, then thunderous applause for my mom. Okay, and 721 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: then we got Bert Price in the house. Now, I'm 722 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: gonna be honest with Joe. I've known Bert for how 723 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: many years now, thirty years now almost maybe twenty seven, Yes, 724 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: and he took my younger brother Olamida under his wing 725 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: and taught him the ins and outs of the music industry. 726 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: And for people who have listened to fake doctor's real friends, 727 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 1: you've heard some of Olamid's music guests who helped elaminate 728 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: with that Bert Price. So when it came time to 729 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: freaking make a soundtrack for Alabama Jackson and a theme 730 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: for Alabama Jackson, it was only right to go to 731 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: the one man that has been doing right by my 732 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: family since he met us. But you forgot about forgot 733 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: about the records that we did together. Well we made well, 734 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: the records we made together, that's we don't don't nobody 735 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: want to listen to it anyway. So Bert, my mom 736 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: wrote on this with me, and then Bert I somehow 737 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: convinced him to probably do more than we paid him 738 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: for to make some music for us. And when you 739 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: guys watch the show and you listen to the soundtrack 740 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: that accompanied the soundtrack that accompanies the show, you're gonna 741 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: be very impressed. And I want to thank you both 742 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: for being on here with us. Wow, thank you. Shoot 743 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 1: you deserve all the praise. Bert, you deserve all the praise. 744 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 1: Surely this I mean, like I've been saying, how proud 745 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: I am MacDonald. I know everyone's exploding with pride. But 746 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: also both of your contributions to this invaluable. So thank you, 747 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, no doubt. So let's get into this. Mom, 748 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: had you ever written before? When you've done this? When 749 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: when I called you up and I was like, you know, 750 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: I got one extra slot or a writer, do you 751 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: want any Okay? So, so I had never written like 752 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: a script for film or television, but I did write 753 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: a m a book called If Walls Could Talk, which 754 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: was basically um about the Brownstone in Harlem and all 755 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: the people who lived in it. So what is your 756 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:34,399 Speaker 1: Your background is pretty much a historian type of like okay, yeah, okay, 757 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 1: you went to college for black history. Yeah, I got 758 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: a degree in African American studies. And so we when 759 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 1: when I called you up and I was like, I 760 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: need you to write with me personally. It was before 761 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: you all the knowledge that you had obtained in college 762 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and so I was trying to 763 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 1: pick your brain. And so you were actually the one 764 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: who came up with the idea of Woodrow Wilson being 765 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: the bad I also I was trying to find a 766 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: bad guy to be Alabama Jackson's nemesis. And you were like, well, 767 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: what about Woodrow Wilson? And I was like, well, what's up? 768 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: I had no clue about any of this. This is 769 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: what Seth was talking about earlier. Like, for real, as 770 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: a young African American male growing up in New York City, 771 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: the amount of my own history that I know is 772 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: very little, and that's a problem. And I the guilt 773 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: that I had when freaking thinking about that is really 774 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: also what went into Alabama Jackson. It was like, I 775 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: can't be this person anymore. I have to know a 776 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: lot more than I know now. And my mom had 777 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: all of this knowledge, and I, you know, I used 778 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: to laugh that shit off like she could. I remember 779 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: one year my mom came at me with the gift 780 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 1: was it was for Christmas, and she literally figured out 781 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: the book was like the size of an encyclopedia, and 782 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 1: it was my family's history, my entire family's history. She 783 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: got it all the way back to Nigeria to Africa, 784 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: like my family's history. And I looked at it like, 785 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: oh wow, that's cool, and that was it. But I 786 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: had all of this knowledge in front of me, and 787 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 1: I was taking it for granted, and so I wanted 788 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: to make sure I didn't do that again. And that's 789 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: how that's why I freaking got you. Boy, Mama, Are 790 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: you mad at me? Can I look at that book 791 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: at some point that it's your mom's house, it's my house. 792 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: Can I come by and check that out? Mom? Are 793 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: you mad at me for admitting that? Just now? I 794 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: mad at you? But when you but I saw, I 795 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: gave it to you just laid it down and that 796 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: was a lot of hard work. But yeah, but uh, 797 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 1: are you mad? No? I'm not mad? Okay cool? And 798 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: then Donald, your mother is the type of person that 799 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: understands that human beings will make mistakes and that it's 800 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: possible to correct those mistakes simply by learning new information 801 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: and making an effort, and boom, there it is. And 802 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: I was very happy to have her on board as 803 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:11,959 Speaker 1: a writer. Yeah, are you madma? So of course, okay, 804 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: just check it, just check it. But surely do you 805 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: do you love me just a little bit more than 806 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: shoot a little don't answer that, dow that. Okay, So 807 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: you're actually the person that came up with the idea 808 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: that Woodrow Wilson was this. I mean, you told me 809 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 1: about it. Can we dig a little bit into that 810 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,399 Speaker 1: real quick? Wilson was an interesting person in that UM. 811 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: Prior to becoming a president, he was actually president of 812 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: a college UM and that elected UH with the black vote, 813 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: and he made all these promises and what he did 814 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: was basically we and all the promises that he made 815 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: UM and there's a transcript of um Uh it was fortune. 816 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: UM went to the White House and Woodrow Wilson. They argued, 817 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 1: and then Woodrow Wilson threw him out of the White 818 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: House because he didn't live up to his promises. And 819 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 1: one of the things that he did was he was 820 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: the president that kind of put the the nail in 821 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: the coffin the black history and the contributions that black 822 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: people made in this country all the way from like 823 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: from what I understand, like that his inauguration, had clansmen there, 824 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: and he was you know, Birth of a Nation came out, 825 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 1: gave you Birth of the Nation of the White House, 826 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: and if you remember, Birth of the Nation was depicted 827 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: black people as yeah, depicted black people as thugs and 828 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: rapists and and uh, you know, killers. And after this 829 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: movie came out, Yeah, he debuted at the White House 830 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: and said it's American treasure. It's a classic. And people 831 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 1: went and saw the movie and then started lynching people 832 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: in the street, black people in the street after they 833 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 1: saw this movie. Ah, this is the t this is Yeah. 834 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: It was a movie, a kind of a how to 835 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: to be the most effectively murderous racist possible. Yeah, and 836 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: it and this is where we have a lot of 837 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: a lot of the systemic racism that we're dealing with 838 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 1: now in America comes from comes from that. So he 839 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: was the perfect bad guy and Seth you played him wonderfully, 840 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,439 Speaker 1: thanks man. No doubt. He's kind of a dick, which 841 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: is always funny to play, right, we should we should. 842 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,399 Speaker 1: We should also say that this show is a comedy, right, 843 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: This show is so powered for pound funny that you're 844 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: not gonna really think that you're learning anything right, You're 845 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: gonna have so much fun watching this show that by 846 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 1: the end of it, when you find yourself out with 847 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: your friends and you just randomly recall some incredibly important 848 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: African American history facts, people would be like, Damn'd you 849 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: go to school for that? You're like, nah, I watched 850 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: Alabama Jackson. I can't wait. Man, I'm sorry, I can't 851 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 1: wait either. Okay, so that's how you got involved. Mom, 852 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: you were the historian. So when we started writing all 853 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 1: of this, did you ever feel like you were out 854 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,240 Speaker 1: of your league? Well? You know what was really interesting? 855 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 1: What's that when I agreed to it, I didn't realize 856 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,800 Speaker 1: that we were going to be assumed for eight hours 857 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 1: of the day. So after the first day, I said, okay, 858 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: so I'm on the learning curve here, and I bought 859 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 1: this program so that I could actually type in the 860 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: script the way that you guys were doing it, and 861 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: and I just I just okay, I'm here to learn 862 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 1: and maybe just try to make a contribution. We made 863 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: a great contribution. Actually, some of the one of my 864 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: favorite episodes is the Nelson Mandela one. I'm getting a 865 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: lot of I got. I had to talk with adult 866 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: swim today and they were like, Yo, there's a possibility 867 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: that people are gonna come at you because of the 868 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 1: Nelson Mandela episode. Is that I know that there's a 869 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: lot that we can't talk about because all the SMP 870 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 1: is actually really it's a it's a different level of NBA. 871 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: But what are they only scared because it's Mandela? What 872 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: are they? What's that? Because honestly, that episode for me 873 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: is so it's like, I don't want to spoil this. 874 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: But Harriet in that episode because Wanda, again, we recorded 875 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: all our episodes at once, so we were kind of 876 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: finding it as we went, and we asked her to 877 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: just like add live a bunch of stuff and then 878 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: we we did in episodes in places, and we inadvertently 879 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: gave Harriet her own catchphrase and it reveals in that 880 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: episode I can't wait um. And then also I'm at 881 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: best plays Mandela and it's brilliant. It's brilliant. So are 882 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 1: they just scared? Like we should? I feel like we 883 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: should say that. I feel like we should. We should 884 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 1: say the structure, like how we structure these really short 885 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,800 Speaker 1: episodes because there's a there's like a thread from episode. 886 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: How we do that? Yeah? Yeah, So the format is, yeah, 887 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: because it's only we only have like three minutes to 888 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: tell these relatively complex stories. So the format is we 889 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 1: always drop Alabama and Harriet Tubman, Donald and Wanda Sykes 890 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: into the middle of whatever is going on, and the 891 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: audience just kind of has to catch up. And in 892 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 1: every instance, Woodrow Wilson has done something to try to 893 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: subvert Black history, so he's tried to stop it from happening. 894 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 1: And which is you know, which is a metaphor for 895 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 1: like it's happened when we erase black history, right when 896 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: Woodrow Wilson said, Okay, we're not gonna we're not gonna 897 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 1: teach anybody about anything that's that's happened with black histories. 898 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 1: So they get dropped into this and then they've got 899 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,320 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to stop Woodrow and his 900 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 1: henchmen from subverting Black history. And and so it all 901 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 1: happens really quickly, and there's we feature a major historical 902 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: figure in every episode. And like I said, we take liberties. 903 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: We've taken some liberties with Nelson Mandela, but the idea 904 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: is that we're highlighting these people. We've taken a lot 905 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 1: of Yeah, we've taken a little seat we'll see, but 906 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: our point, our point is very clear that Mandela's freedom, 907 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 1: his very his own agency over his own thoughts were 908 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:55,720 Speaker 1: stolen from him for years, and things happened to people 909 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 1: that are imprisoned. I mean, that's why I don't don't 910 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: even get me started on that. That's not go any further. 911 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: Let's go. But the idea that a man like Mandela 912 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: was so specifically intentionally targetedly persecuted gives us a lot 913 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,240 Speaker 1: of leeway to demonstrate what that might look like before 914 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: he's able to become him really his real self again, 915 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 1: Like we we need our show to kind of show 916 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,439 Speaker 1: him at what our imaginable worst would be to give 917 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: him room to be saved. He had to show how 918 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:37,360 Speaker 1: much the KK cabal had compromised Mandela for him to 919 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,440 Speaker 1: be out of the picture, for aj and Um and 920 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: Harriet to have a task right give him back from that. Yeah, 921 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: So I'll give an analogy that doesn't ruin an episode 922 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: because we didn't use it, but it's a it's an example. 923 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: Like everyone talks about Muhammad Ali and like his bike 924 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: got stolen, and if his bike hadn't got stolen, he 925 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't have gone and talked to the cop who ended 926 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 1: up teaching him to be a boxer, right, And so 927 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: the idea would be that Woodrow being a time traveling 928 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 1: guy knowing that that's a seminal moment in Muhammad Ali's 929 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 1: life or Cassius Clay at the time, would prevent that 930 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: moment from happening. And then there's no Muhammad Muhammad Ali. 931 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,800 Speaker 1: There's there's no athlete activists, there's all So that's the 932 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 1: premise of the show is there's these like seminal moments, 933 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 1: some of them actual and some of them that we've 934 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 1: just imagined in all these historical figures lives, and Alabama 935 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,280 Speaker 1: and Harriet have to make sure those seminal moments happen 936 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 1: or Black history will change and American history will change 937 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: and the global history will change. So that's like there's 938 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 1: super high stakes. But then you also have a character 939 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 1: in Donald playing Alabama Jackson who is not fully committed 940 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: to the assignment yet, and then you have Harriet who 941 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 1: is like fully because and that's where that's where the 942 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,879 Speaker 1: conflict between the two of them comes in, is she's 943 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,839 Speaker 1: trying to be like, look, I sacrificed my entire life 944 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 1: for the cause. You need to get with the program, 945 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 1: and that's that's where their growth, and that's where their 946 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,359 Speaker 1: journey goes, and that's what's you know, the chemistry between 947 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,439 Speaker 1: the two of them is so fun. Don't give away 948 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,360 Speaker 1: to show, Chris, I'm not, but I just I just 949 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,800 Speaker 1: realized in this moment it's a little bit like Terminator 950 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:15,399 Speaker 1: too and Harriet Sarah Connor and aj is baby John Connor. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, 951 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 1: because there's a moment where she's like, don't you realize 952 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: how serious this is? And he's like, I guess I 953 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 1: like that analogy. Wait, Donald, can you talk a little 954 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 1: bit about what it's like working with your mom. It's 955 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,879 Speaker 1: a joy working with my mom. I know, I'm safe 956 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 1: with my mom. I know if I say some dumb 957 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: shit should be like that was some dumb shit. Please please, 958 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: please forgive my son for saying some dumb shita. My 959 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: mom has the sweetest voice ever in the history. And 960 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 1: she's also I mean, she's protecting me pretty much my 961 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: whole life. So having her in a writer's room with 962 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of seasoned writers, and you know, this is 963 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 1: the first thing I've ever written in my life, you know, 964 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 1: and this is the first thing that my mom. This 965 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,720 Speaker 1: is the first type of uh. This is the first 966 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: scripted format that is that right? Is that the right 967 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: way to say? It is the first scripted format that 968 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 1: my mom has ever had to be a part of 969 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,840 Speaker 1: in writing, and so we were very new to it. 970 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,879 Speaker 1: But thanks to Ashley and Lee, we we got through good. 971 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,839 Speaker 1: But I said some dumb shit in the writer's room 972 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,919 Speaker 1: and my mom was very good. Yeah, it's a safe 973 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 1: My mom was very good to be like, you know, 974 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,799 Speaker 1: you know, she protected me and so it was very 975 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 1: good to work with my mom. And also I was 976 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: very nervous because I put my mom in this situation 977 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 1: and I didn't necessarily set her up for success. I 978 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 1: put her. I just threw her to the wolves and 979 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: threw her to the sharks, and she was able to 980 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: swim easily with them. And I am so I gotta 981 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: be honest with you, Mom, I'm so proud of you. 982 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of of the fact that that that 983 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 1: this wasn't something that you were necessarily eager to do, 984 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 1: but you knew I needed you, and you stepped up 985 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,239 Speaker 1: because you're my mom and came through like a champ. 986 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,040 Speaker 1: And so I'm so proud of you. Thank you. I 987 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 1: thank you. I thank you tremendously, and we'll see how 988 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: this all plays out now Bert, But wait, wait, Donald, 989 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 1: can I just say one thing, Because you mentioned your 990 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 1: mother's voice, how important your mother's voices. I would just 991 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,839 Speaker 1: like to say that in all the years that I've 992 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: known Shirley, I've never heard her raise her voice. She's never, 993 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 1: in my presence or in my experience, needed to raise 994 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: her voice. She has a confident, quiet strength that is 995 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: both gentle and formidable. So the value of her voice 996 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 1: in the room, like I said earlier, is priceless. Yes, 997 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 1: I'll give you flowers all day. I love you all. 998 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm so excited this is happening. I can't wait for 999 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 1: the people to see it. Ladies and gentlemen, say goodbye 1000 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: to Seth Green, Chris Waters, John Hart, thank me show 1001 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 1: you guys are great. And when when Donald told us 1002 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: Shirley was coming on, I unlike said, I didn't know 1003 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: his beautiful mother, but I had heard her on the podcast, 1004 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, she could definitely be in 1005 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 1: the room. So big Dog's real friend. In all honesty, 1006 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 1: the room was closed. We had our two writers, it 1007 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: was Lee and Ashley and you. Because we made this 1008 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 1: thing with like two dimes rubbed together, and Chris, you 1009 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 1: said to me, You literally said to me, do you 1010 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 1: want to get your mom in there? We should get 1011 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 1: your mom in there. And I was like, Yeah, let's 1012 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: put my mom in there. And that's wait. I think 1013 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 1: it's also important to say, Donald, so many people try 1014 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 1: and put their family over and the whole thing falls apart, 1015 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 1: like not everybody's not everybody's the waynes like, not everybody 1016 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: can do that. So I'm glad that the people you 1017 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 1: brought in all your family that they that they're like 1018 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 1: experts at the job, or this would not have worked. 1019 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 1: Wait till they wait till they hear you rapped, Wait 1020 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 1: till we hear that, like your family came through. You 1021 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 1: should play play the guide track. I feel like we 1022 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: should play it. No, we can't play it. We can't 1023 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: play it. We can't. Love y'all, love you guy. So 1024 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 1: speaking of the rap, Bert, yes, speaking of bringing my family, 1025 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 1: and Bert is my family. You are my family member. Uh, 1026 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,680 Speaker 1: you are actually in the living room that I grew 1027 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: up in right now, hanging out. Yeah. Bert is a 1028 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 1: musical genius. A lot of people don't know this about him, 1029 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 1: and those who do know this about him. Those who 1030 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 1: do know this about him run to him for music 1031 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 1: and help when they need it. And that's who I 1032 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 1: ran to when the show needed music. Like if you 1033 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 1: watched the show without sound, without music, it's a completely 1034 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 1: different show. And Bert stepped in and and and crushed it. 1035 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 1: I would really like to I would Bert you crushed it, 1036 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 1: Like thank you crushed it. I would really like to 1037 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 1: get into how you how how you got into music, 1038 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 1: what and then what your idea was when you started 1039 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,040 Speaker 1: thinking about Alabama Jackson. Wow, Okay, long story short. I 1040 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 1: started pretty much like you did. Well, like you inspired 1041 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: your brothers to do. You came from a family that 1042 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,919 Speaker 1: sang and performed the same thing with me. I came 1043 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 1: My brothers were musicians and I wanted to do it, 1044 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 1: and I would always get thrown out of their band practice, 1045 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 1: you know, all that kind of stuff, until finally I 1046 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 1: just got my own stuff and got better than them, 1047 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 1: and now they begged me to play with them. But now, 1048 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Alabama Jackson, man, when you gave me the idea? First 1049 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 1: of all, I have very I mean I have a 1050 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: background and post production, but justin like doing commercial jingles 1051 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Actually, that's one of the ways 1052 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 1: we kind of connected to that. John Silberman Music. I 1053 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 1: used to work at It's a Jingle House in New York, 1054 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 1: and you were your group is over there, so yeah, 1055 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: we were over there. Yeah yeah, yes, right. So I 1056 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 1: worked on the Coca Cola Olympic spot there for ninety 1057 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 1: six Olympics and stuff, a lot of things. So I 1058 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 1: did that kind of stuff, but never for a TV show. 1059 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 1: Always wanted to do some kind of scoring, some kind 1060 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 1: of a you know, a movie television project. So when 1061 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 1: you said yes you heard me, we were like, You're like, 1062 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 1: all right, didn't payment. I was like, yes, I'm telling you. Yes. 1063 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, I'm telling you. It doesn't like yeah, 1064 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 1: and so the inspirational honestly, you sound like Alabama Jackson. 1065 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: First of all, that's why y'all heard so many banjos. 1066 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just like you said Alabama, 1067 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 1: and I grabbed a banjo hanging over there and talk 1068 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 1: and that's how it started. And then you sent the 1069 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 1: demo of the the theme song, and then I just 1070 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 1: we listened to the lyrics. I came up with one 1071 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:50,880 Speaker 1: idea kind of so so kind of well we were 1072 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 1: we were like we were like we kind of wanted 1073 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 1: country and you're like, okay, and then you said to us, 1074 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 1: you were like, I gotta be honest with you. Shoot 1075 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 1: this don't that's that, dude, We gotta Then I just 1076 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: thought about black exploitation, bro, I love like you know, 1077 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: like which way is up? Let's do it again. All 1078 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 1: of those you know, movies from the seventies, the music 1079 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 1: was killing. They had Curtis Mayfield, they had James Brown 1080 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 1: doing it. So like the whole idea was like, you know, 1081 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I did want to keep it period because you're driving 1082 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 1: through time. He went to the sixties at one point, 1083 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 1: so I got to give it sixties vibe, but eighties vibe, 1084 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: seventies vibe, whatever. But I still wanted to have that 1085 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,440 Speaker 1: that seventies black exploitation kind of energy to it. And 1086 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 1: then you guys also sent the Chips reference like the 1087 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, the kind of the hokyness of the eighties 1088 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. So a lot of it is tongue 1089 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 1: in cheek, but we tried to really do a good 1090 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 1: job and make it funky. Your little brothers on guitar 1091 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 1: playing all the wild wah stuff, God is on conas 1092 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 1: playing off the custom stuff if you really wanted to 1093 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 1: sound like something straight out of a exploit blaxploitation movie. 1094 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 1: So and then we hired and then we hired my 1095 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Zelle to write the rap for Alabama Jackson. And you know, 1096 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 1: it became a true family affair at that point. Like 1097 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 1: it's like I got I got literally my brothers, my 1098 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 1: mother don't. I don't even know what to I guess 1099 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: my my my brother, Bert, you are my brother, you know, 1100 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,479 Speaker 1: even though you date my mother, you are my brother. 1101 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm just so happy that it all worked out. You know, 1102 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 1: it was a pleasure. And you your rap skills point 1103 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 1: the shit. Yeah, I'm about to say Alabama's rap skills 1104 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 1: are on point. So we're gonna take another break, and 1105 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 1: then when we come back, we're gonna bring in Ashley 1106 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: Ray and Lee House and we are back. Ladies and gentlemen, 1107 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 1: give it up for Ashley Ray and Lee how stunderous 1108 01:03:55,240 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: applaud every time. Great, you haven't seen anything yet either, 1109 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 1: Huh Nope, I can't wait. I'm have adult swim sending 1110 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 1: you guys this stuff. This is a pretty fast turnaround. 1111 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,680 Speaker 1: I was surprised. Yeah, I was like, okay, I was 1112 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 1: like I thought they were still making puppets. Probably no, 1113 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 1: we we finished the whole thing. I want to talk 1114 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,480 Speaker 1: to you guys about it though, too. Like you know, 1115 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 1: I've known Lee for a really long time, since I 1116 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: first moved out to Los Angeles and Ashley and I 1117 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 1: had a conversation together. I knew right away when meeting 1118 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 1: Ashley that she had to be a part of the project. 1119 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: I knew right away. Chris Waters introduced us and then Lee. 1120 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 1: Chris was like, I got a guy named Lee House, 1121 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, wait a second, Lee, how Lee House? 1122 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,440 Speaker 1: Does he go by house? He goes? No, he goes 1123 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 1: by Lee But you know, I was like, he doesn't 1124 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 1: go I was like, wait, hold on. Lee and I 1125 01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 1: used to go play paintball together. We used to to smoke, 1126 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 1: we together. We used to do a lot of things 1127 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,200 Speaker 1: back in the day that when we were very young. 1128 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:07,840 Speaker 1: And then you went on to be like a sag 1129 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 1: rep at one point, and you were a writer and 1130 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,680 Speaker 1: a Why don't you tell us about how you came 1131 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 1: into the industry. It's crazy. My first job out here 1132 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,400 Speaker 1: was actually working with ice Cube, but a Lynch Mob records. 1133 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 1: He and I got close over time, and I actually 1134 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 1: went on tour with him. So six months of being 1135 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,360 Speaker 1: in La I'm on tour with Q you know, rolling 1136 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,920 Speaker 1: with the Lynch Mob. I wasn't necessarily cut out for 1137 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 1: West Coast gangster rap, so I became a PA. I 1138 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 1: did that for a few years, and then I got 1139 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 1: a job with the Screen Actors Guild, where I was 1140 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:44,160 Speaker 1: an outside field rep and I would go to any 1141 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: set that the SAG actors were on. I actually went 1142 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 1: to the scrubs pilot, I remember, I do remember that. Yeah. 1143 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 1: After that, I started writing jokes for Flex. He got 1144 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 1: one on one. He put me on one on one, 1145 01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 1: and you know, I've been in this crazy business of 1146 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: writing ever since. That's nuts. And now, Ashley, you're a 1147 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,120 Speaker 1: stand up comic. You're a fire stand up comic too, 1148 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,680 Speaker 1: by the way, no doubt, no doubt. But uh, what 1149 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,520 Speaker 1: brought you to the business? How did you? How did 1150 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 1: you find yourself here? I lived in Chicago, That's where 1151 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 1: I started doing stand up. I started working for the 1152 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 1: Onion back in twenty sixteen, and I loved comedy writing. 1153 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 1: I had worked in advertising for a long time, got 1154 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 1: kind of sick of it, realized I just wanted to 1155 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 1: make people laugh. So I made that that switch realized. 1156 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 1: I liked being on stage two. I think there's this 1157 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,920 Speaker 1: expectation that when you're a black woman who performs, you 1158 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 1: do like spoken word or like storytelling or something. And 1159 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:40,880 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I just want to tell like, 1160 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 1: you know, like jokes about butts and stuff. Let's just 1161 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 1: focus on the funny stuff. And that's kind of where 1162 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,080 Speaker 1: I found my lane. I came out to LA and 1163 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 1: got to work with Maria Bamford. She'd been she was 1164 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,920 Speaker 1: working on an audiobook and I helped edit it, and 1165 01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,720 Speaker 1: obviously she is amazing with an animation and voice work, 1166 01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 1: and that got me really into the idea of like 1167 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 1: writing an animated pilot, getting more into you know, doing 1168 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 1: stuff for adult Swim, and kind of realizing, you know what, 1169 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,440 Speaker 1: I think a black woman could make these kind of 1170 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 1: jokes and like make a show that captures this voice. 1171 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 1: And that's what I wanted to do, is like make 1172 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 1: that kind of black woman, stoner comedy that I saw 1173 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 1: in shows like Laser Wolf and stuff. So I was 1174 01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 1: really excited when this opportunity came up. And I was also, 1175 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 1: I want to say, very excited to work with Lee 1176 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 1: because I knew his work. You worked with Trevor Moore 1177 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 1: from The Whitest Kids, you know, and I was like, 1178 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,439 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is amazing, like just icons, working 1179 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 1: with icons that inspire me. So yeah, it's always great 1180 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 1: when you get to work with people that you love, 1181 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,840 Speaker 1: that you love to listen to or watch men, and 1182 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 1: so that's how I felt about the two of you. 1183 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I was so proud to 1184 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 1: work with somebody that I know, that I knew from 1185 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,480 Speaker 1: back in the day, who had pushed his way all 1186 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 1: the way up and is now freaking working on And 1187 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 1: then actually, you just come with such with this aura. 1188 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,160 Speaker 1: You know, there's just something so magnetic and amazing about you. 1189 01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's true, you could you could shut it up, 1190 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 1: you can laugh it off. I'm excited to work with you, 1191 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 1: are you? I know, but there's something really special and 1192 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 1: magical about you. Like I said to Chris, I was like, look, 1193 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 1: if anything, I have to have Ashley ray on this 1194 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 1: bad boy. He's like, all right, all right, we'll see 1195 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,160 Speaker 1: if we can work it out. And then Mom, of 1196 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 1: course you're an icon forever to me. You'll always be 1197 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 1: an icon to me, no matter what. You know. I think, Yeah, 1198 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm so I didn't even realize you were. I thought 1199 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 1: they said that you were even on the call. Hello. 1200 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 1: I am so excited to see you again. Oh my, 1201 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,280 Speaker 1: like seeing that you were in there, that was when 1202 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 1: I was. I just was so excited because for me, 1203 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:39,880 Speaker 1: it was like the first time I'd been in a 1204 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,200 Speaker 1: room with like all black writers and it just was this. 1205 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,919 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, yeah, this is it. Like everyone 1206 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,720 Speaker 1: just had these different perspectives that were so interesting. I 1207 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,960 Speaker 1: was so excited from the moment we started. Okay, so 1208 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,760 Speaker 1: let's get into how we did this. Man. Like, our 1209 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 1: first day in the writer's room was a bunch of 1210 01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 1: story breaking and trying to really you know, I think 1211 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,680 Speaker 1: our first week was that when did we write our 1212 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,320 Speaker 1: first script? Do you think when was the first script 1213 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 1: finally written? Oh? It right? It took a wow, right, 1214 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:18,760 Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, we feel like we had hit 1215 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 1: out kind of all the beats or different stories we wanted, 1216 01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:22,840 Speaker 1: and then it was like, oh, we gotta we gotta 1217 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 1: get this like scripted out because I had already left 1218 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,720 Speaker 1: for tour by the time. Yeah, you were on tour 1219 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 1: by the time we started writing already, and I was 1220 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 1: like in my car, like my friends driving me and 1221 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm like on my laptop like joining in over zoom 1222 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,800 Speaker 1: in the car. Uh. And so I feel like it 1223 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,479 Speaker 1: was probably like into the second or third week we 1224 01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,880 Speaker 1: started getting we finally started to get the scripts. That's 1225 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,599 Speaker 1: not usual, I guess. Yeah. I would also say that Donald, 1226 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,720 Speaker 1: like you as an actor brought so much to the 1227 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 1: room because you would act out so much of it 1228 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 1: as we were like throwing out ideas that I think 1229 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 1: we could all see the scenes like we immediately just 1230 01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,160 Speaker 1: started doing voices and bound off each other and being like, yes, 1231 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 1: this is a scene, this is building into it. So 1232 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 1: that was a huge help man, because you you know, 1233 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,760 Speaker 1: you would embody Alabama so well, we knew what to 1234 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,000 Speaker 1: write next, you know, and and how to play off 1235 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,920 Speaker 1: of you, which is different than most writers room where 1236 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 1: you don't have the actor in there. Right. No, Well, 1237 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean I'm gonna be honest with you, guys. I 1238 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,200 Speaker 1: felt like a fish out of water because and I 1239 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 1: was like, how can I make a contribution to this 1240 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,160 Speaker 1: because you know, first of all, the two of you 1241 01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 1: are very seasoned, and you know, like I'm gonna tell 1242 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,599 Speaker 1: you something right now, Both of your scripts didn't get 1243 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,760 Speaker 1: touched when you see them you'll be like, oh shit, 1244 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 1: that's exactly what I wrote. Not it's crazy, dude, first 1245 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:46,200 Speaker 1: time ever it's crazy. There might be like a word 1246 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 1: here or a word there, but for the most part 1247 01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,320 Speaker 1: that shit stayed intact, like you know, both of you 1248 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:56,080 Speaker 1: so uh, it's it's it's just it's just you know, 1249 01:10:56,360 --> 01:11:00,080 Speaker 1: you could tell who the season's season ones were and 1250 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,640 Speaker 1: who wasn't. And I had to find a way to 1251 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,960 Speaker 1: fit in, and I was so I was so nervous 1252 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 1: for my mom. I was like, how's my mom going 1253 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,680 Speaker 1: to find a way to fit in? And then she 1254 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,720 Speaker 1: found her way into and it was just like we 1255 01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,200 Speaker 1: got a really good thing going right here. Oh yeah, 1256 01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,120 Speaker 1: let's keep it going. Yo. To me, that was one 1257 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,200 Speaker 1: of the best rooms I've ever been in. I mean, 1258 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,919 Speaker 1: everybody got along, everybody was cool, nobody was extra sensitive. 1259 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's it can get crazy in some rooms. Yeah, yeah, 1260 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,240 Speaker 1: you guys have been in rooms before, so you know. Yeah. 1261 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,200 Speaker 1: And I think there's like the expectation kind of like oh, 1262 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,760 Speaker 1: adult swim humor and this kind of thing. But I 1263 01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,439 Speaker 1: thought we all just like brought the weirdest ideas, the 1264 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,720 Speaker 1: funniest that like no one was afraid to really to 1265 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,280 Speaker 1: really get into, you know, the weirdest stuff that came 1266 01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,160 Speaker 1: to us. It was really a room where I think 1267 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:51,800 Speaker 1: we were all just really comfortable. Yeah. Yeah, I gotta 1268 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,640 Speaker 1: tell you, guys, man, I'm so excited for you to 1269 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,600 Speaker 1: see this show. We got seven episodes. We didn't do 1270 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:04,679 Speaker 1: eight episodes. It went from ten to eight to seven. 1271 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:08,280 Speaker 1: But they're all very well fleshed out, and the arc 1272 01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:13,800 Speaker 1: for this is amazing. I would love to I'm gonna 1273 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,240 Speaker 1: get on a text right now and send them, send you, guys, 1274 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,599 Speaker 1: all of the all of the all of the shows 1275 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,960 Speaker 1: so you can watch him. Bert got to see everything 1276 01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:26,120 Speaker 1: from storyboard. Bert was there from storyboard all the way 1277 01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:30,720 Speaker 1: to uh mix pretty much because yeah, because he was 1278 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,639 Speaker 1: doing the music on it. So he's got he's gotten 1279 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:37,519 Speaker 1: to see he's gotten to see every version of each 1280 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,960 Speaker 1: one of these scripts. Yeah, I'm so excited. Yeah. But 1281 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,680 Speaker 1: finding out that Wanda Sykes was able to voice Hair, 1282 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:48,080 Speaker 1: that to me was like wow, okay, okay, this is 1283 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,040 Speaker 1: gonna be amazing. I just being in this room it 1284 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,120 Speaker 1: was so special because I felt like we each had 1285 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,599 Speaker 1: our own kind of generational connections to different parts of blackness, 1286 01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 1: and it all like would come together in these interesting ways, 1287 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 1: Like when we wanted to do the this episode about 1288 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,000 Speaker 1: like Aliyah, that was like really complicated, yeah, but then 1289 01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,479 Speaker 1: like you told a story about like how you like 1290 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 1: she used to prank call you and stuff, and I 1291 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,720 Speaker 1: was just like, oh my gosh, like to me as 1292 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,280 Speaker 1: like someone younger. I was like, I can't even imagine that. 1293 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:23,719 Speaker 1: And just I think Ashley's calling us old and good. 1294 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,599 Speaker 1: I'm I'm here smiling like yeah, man, that's right, don't 1295 01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 1: I mean? But there were just so many of these 1296 01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,040 Speaker 1: moments where I was like, oh, this, you know, I 1297 01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,000 Speaker 1: think it can feel so distant, like black culture and 1298 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,320 Speaker 1: black history, and it's like this was a room where 1299 01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:46,880 Speaker 1: it was really alive, where it was like, no, this 1300 01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,600 Speaker 1: isn't like something that can just be boiled down to 1301 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,320 Speaker 1: like braids or these things people appropriate. But it was like, no, 1302 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,120 Speaker 1: we really got to work with the ideas that we 1303 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,920 Speaker 1: wanted to bring to life. Yeah, and it felt good. 1304 01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 1: It felt real good. I want to see I can't 1305 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,600 Speaker 1: wait to see how this plays out, you know, I 1306 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 1: really can't wait to see how that's new. That's my 1307 01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 1: new slogan. Let's see how it plays out, Like I 1308 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 1: don't know that it's perfect, and why is that given given? Um? 1309 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:24,360 Speaker 1: How in Texas and other places they're trying to ban books. 1310 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,479 Speaker 1: They are banding banning, They're not, they're not they're not 1311 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:31,040 Speaker 1: trying to they're doing it. Yeah, right, they're banning books 1312 01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 1: that deal with black culture, that deal with Jewish culture. Um. 1313 01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:41,000 Speaker 1: I think it's it's appropriate to come out right now. Okay, 1314 01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,679 Speaker 1: I will say this. The great thing about our show. 1315 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,040 Speaker 1: We talked about it a little bit earlier. The great 1316 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,120 Speaker 1: thing about our show is that we don't push it 1317 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 1: on you though. You know what I mean. You're gonna 1318 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:56,439 Speaker 1: get this history through laughter and comedy, and you can't 1319 01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,000 Speaker 1: beat that with a baseball bat. If school was like that, 1320 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:04,679 Speaker 1: I would have learned way more because way more invested. Yeah, 1321 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,760 Speaker 1: that would have been amazing if that's how school was 1322 01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,760 Speaker 1: for me back in a day, you know what I mean? Like, 1323 01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 1: first of all, they didn't teach black history in school 1324 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,280 Speaker 1: back then either. I remember making a stink about it, 1325 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 1: like how come black people only have one page and 1326 01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:22,439 Speaker 1: this whole fucking textbook, Dude, this whole textbook on one 1327 01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:26,000 Speaker 1: page that's the black history segment. Yeah. I like, when 1328 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:27,560 Speaker 1: when I was growing up, I feel like it was 1329 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 1: always okay, February, that's your month, Like you know, somebody 1330 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,080 Speaker 1: get up and read like a dry biography of Harriet Tubman, 1331 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,400 Speaker 1: like you know, Madam CJ. Walker. It was always the 1332 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:41,639 Speaker 1: same people. And we treat I think, black history obviously 1333 01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 1: with a lot of reverence, and that I think makes 1334 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,240 Speaker 1: it hard for people to want to make jokes and 1335 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,240 Speaker 1: to like turn this into stuff that is relatable and funny, 1336 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 1: because a lot of times people are like, oh, you 1337 01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:55,080 Speaker 1: can't know, like these these black women, there are heroes 1338 01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,200 Speaker 1: and stuff. You can't make jokes and like, you know, 1339 01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,200 Speaker 1: let them in on the joke and stuff, and it's like, no, 1340 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 1: you can't. This is another way of teaching this history 1341 01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:07,519 Speaker 1: and showing people how important they are. Yeah, Man and Donald, 1342 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,360 Speaker 1: You're right. Using humor is the best way I think 1343 01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,479 Speaker 1: to make the lesson stick. So if somebody doesn't get 1344 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,880 Speaker 1: bored like I used to, and you know, you can 1345 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:20,400 Speaker 1: laugh while you learn, laugh while you learn. Joel, is 1346 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,840 Speaker 1: there anything we missed out on? Um? The only thing 1347 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to guys to answer is if you guys 1348 01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 1: have like a favorite I thought it'd be fun if 1349 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 1: you guys each commented on something that somebody else wrote 1350 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:35,200 Speaker 1: that you really liked. If you guys, that's easy for me. Okay, 1351 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,720 Speaker 1: so they haven't seen the show yet, but I've seen 1352 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 1: the show and I'm a huge The Techaba episode is freaking. 1353 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 1: It comes off amazing. I don't think anybody, Joel, did 1354 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,280 Speaker 1: you get to see the Techabo episode. I only got 1355 01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:53,719 Speaker 1: the pilot. Okay, the Techaba episode is like fire. Deborah 1356 01:16:53,760 --> 01:17:01,840 Speaker 1: Wilson plays Techaba slaves dude, like she's slays. Uh. And 1357 01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:03,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if any of you out there know 1358 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,479 Speaker 1: who Deborah Wilson is. If you do, she was on 1359 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,840 Speaker 1: Mad TV. She's a I know who's Debra Wilson is. Yeah, 1360 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:12,920 Speaker 1: that's crazy to me. Wow. Yeah she's hearing of this 1361 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:17,160 Speaker 1: and I I'm just I'm grinning so much. Wow. That's 1362 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:21,680 Speaker 1: almost perfect casting though. Yeah, amazing comedy. I love. And 1363 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,160 Speaker 1: she came in with so much energy and and and 1364 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, she because we were gonna hire her. We 1365 01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,200 Speaker 1: had a whole Oprah Winfrey, Uh of course, and we 1366 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,000 Speaker 1: were like, get Deborah. Let's see if we can get 1367 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:34,840 Speaker 1: Deba to do Oprah. But then in doing it, we 1368 01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,720 Speaker 1: were like, we're not gonna do the Oprah thing. Let's 1369 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 1: just get let's just get half her playtecha. But and 1370 01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:44,799 Speaker 1: when I tell you she slays, she slays it anyway. 1371 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,559 Speaker 1: I can't wait for you to see it. That's that's 1372 01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:52,599 Speaker 1: that favorite. One of my favorites is Alabama Jackson says 1373 01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 1: rap Yeah, I think for me my favorite, I don't 1374 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:57,560 Speaker 1: I don't even know if it made it, but the 1375 01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,000 Speaker 1: Alabama Jackson and the diner sit in that's that's the 1376 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,439 Speaker 1: second episode. Yeah, yeah, that one to me, just we 1377 01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 1: all like threw in little bits that just were like, oh, 1378 01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,800 Speaker 1: this punch up here would be really good. The overall, 1379 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,080 Speaker 1: like arching thing was like, yes, this is like what 1380 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,679 Speaker 1: the show should be about. Like that one I loved 1381 01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,040 Speaker 1: and I love Like whenever we would read that one 1382 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,160 Speaker 1: out loud, there were just so many little like things 1383 01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,720 Speaker 1: we would throw out that were so funny. I think 1384 01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,000 Speaker 1: the thing with the acronyms was one of my favorite jokes. 1385 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:29,640 Speaker 1: Right and made it. It made it, made wow, it 1386 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 1: made it. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I love grape in 1387 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,559 Speaker 1: the Frederick Douglas one that was killing yeah grape vine. Yeah, 1388 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,680 Speaker 1: he's he was funny, so we got we got ed 1389 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:44,800 Speaker 1: for him to do several roles in this uh eds 1390 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,559 Speaker 1: an actor. He's been on television, but he's also a rapper. 1391 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,240 Speaker 1: He was in a what's the name of his band 1392 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,080 Speaker 1: as group Friends of Culture. I produced a song on it. 1393 01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,920 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think they were the first act 1394 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:02,559 Speaker 1: on Motown rap act on Motown. Ye Steve mckiva yep. 1395 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 1: So we got him on this. We got my nephew. 1396 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,479 Speaker 1: He wrote a rap for this. He's my zel Faison. 1397 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:12,120 Speaker 1: He's out there right now. Isaiah Poet. He killed it. 1398 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,840 Speaker 1: Not trying to sound too sappy. I didn't have a 1399 01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,840 Speaker 1: favorite moment. My favorite moment was the process. Man, you know, 1400 01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:23,240 Speaker 1: looking up each day and once again it was such 1401 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,240 Speaker 1: a fun room. I mean it was something that I 1402 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,120 Speaker 1: think each of us look forward to. And then when 1403 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,760 Speaker 1: we were done, it's like, damn, this has got to 1404 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:33,519 Speaker 1: become a series. Yeah that we'll see how Like I said, 1405 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,559 Speaker 1: my new favorite term, we'll see how it plays out. 1406 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,800 Speaker 1: We've developed, We've put out a proof of concept that 1407 01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,719 Speaker 1: is like no other. I mean, we turned this little 1408 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:46,240 Speaker 1: tiny budget and you know, I called in a couple 1409 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,519 Speaker 1: of favors. Seth called in a couple of favors, and 1410 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,400 Speaker 1: we really put like, I don't think adult Swim is 1411 01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:57,240 Speaker 1: ready I don't think Adult Swim is ready for you know, 1412 01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,160 Speaker 1: like if this is the if if they come back 1413 01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:01,880 Speaker 1: at us and they say, we need you to do 1414 01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,400 Speaker 1: it again for the same money, It's impossible. Let's put 1415 01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:06,960 Speaker 1: it that way, you know what I mean, It's impossible. 1416 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,120 Speaker 1: I called in all my favorites. I got Burt on here. 1417 01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,800 Speaker 1: I called. That's how I got the music I called. 1418 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:22,720 Speaker 1: I called the dude that freaking it's dating my mom. Now, yo, 1419 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,200 Speaker 1: you got some it's some heavy hitters on here. Man. Yeah, 1420 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,479 Speaker 1: the music is gonna be awesome. You know you're on there. 1421 01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 1: Want to site, I'm gonna come on man. Yeah, it's amazing. 1422 01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,040 Speaker 1: It's really just like a family affair. I'm so excited 1423 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,040 Speaker 1: for it to be in the world. All right. Yeah, 1424 01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,080 Speaker 1: well it's out right now for all of you listening. 1425 01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 1: Once you finished listening to the podcast, please it'll be 1426 01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:48,639 Speaker 1: in the description below, but go to YouTube the Adult 1427 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:55,639 Speaker 1: Swim page. It's Alabama Jackson Week Enjoy. Yes, yes, yeah. 1428 01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,599 Speaker 1: I want to thank Ashley Ray. I want to thank 1429 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:00,599 Speaker 1: Lee House. I want to thank Shirleyase. I don't want 1430 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,439 Speaker 1: to thank Bert Price. I want to thank John Harveteen. 1431 01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,040 Speaker 1: I want to thank Chris Waters, and I want to 1432 01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:05,800 Speaker 1: thank Seth Green for all being a part of the 1433 01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,879 Speaker 1: podcast today. More importantly, I want to thank Joel Monique 1434 01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:13,600 Speaker 1: and Daniel Goodman for putting together this special version of 1435 01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,559 Speaker 1: Fake Doctor's Real Friends. And on that note, we will 1436 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:21,080 Speaker 1: go out with the Alabama Jackson theme song one last 1437 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 1: Time five six seven eight Alabama Jackson. He's a time 1438 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:29,280 Speaker 1: trampling man doing a bist Eddy Tames with Bru Wilson 1439 01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:30,120 Speaker 1: as Blackson.