WEBVTT - With the trade deadline looming, Casey Mize shines 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:11.040 H and Welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.160 of the Foul Territory Network Detroit Tigers podcast. I'm Kieren 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.640 Steckley with me as always is a couple of fellas 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:21.239 that are walking heat waves. Cody Stavenhagen, Austin Jackson. What's up, guys? 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:21.840 How are we doing? 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:26.439 Cute? I like that. I like that. I'm gonna use it. 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:32.760 That's bars, bro, I like that. I like that. Let's 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.760 get it going then if you're gonna get you on that. 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:38.360 Hey, hey, we haven't had a lot of good vibes 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.680 this year. We're recording on the Monday night Tigers win 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.199 in the Bronx. We at least for a few minutes here, 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:46.240 we're gonna have some good vibes. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.520 Yeah, I mean yeah that that that start was hot. 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.840 Let's be honest, you know, like the Tigers, Like, you know, Austin, 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.160 you're in Cleveland right now, But I didn't know that 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.200 the Tigers were actually the Guardians and Tigers uniforms tonight 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.960 at Yankee Stadium because all those things that I like, 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.840 you know, jokingly like hate about the Guardians. That's like, 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:07.560 how do they keep getting away with this? You know, 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:12.000 just no real power and situational hitting, and like just 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.240 of course the other team makes an error, you know, 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.279 all these things that you almost feel like never happened 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:20.040 to the Tiger, like happened for the Tigers tonight against 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.319 the Yankees at Yankee Stadium of all places. Like I said, 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.600 seven to three, they were up seven to nothing early, 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.800 Chase Ryan Weathers in the second ending, right, and like 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.800 it was like this lineup. I'm gonna read this lineup 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.200 for everybody just to kind of, you know, put it 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:39.160 in perspective, because this was not a I would say 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:43.080 this was not a reader's choice lineup when when it 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:46.560 got released. Matt Verling leading off, Dylan Dingler, Kevin McGonagall. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.520 It's gotta be the first time he's hit three hole, Cody, 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:53.040 or maybe one or two other times, torklsen Lee, Jami Jones, 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.760 who obviously got pinch it for Kerry Carpenter pretty soon, 0:01:56.040 --> 0:02:00.640 Zach McKinstry, Ben Maljerry, and James Outman. I don't really 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.880 think I saw a five spot, but in two innings 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:04.520 on that lineup, Cody, what about you? 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.760 Yeah, I guess that's what happens when you get Riley 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.600 Green a day off and we've seen why he had 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.600 played in every game up to this point. I think 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.200 it's great that Riley got a little day off, and yeah, man, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.520 you never know it's baseball yet. Bats seemed pretty good 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:21.200 right out of the gate, if nothing else. I mean, 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.200 they ended up striking out nine times on the night, 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.240 but there was a lot of contact. There was a 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.400 lot of ball and play. Some of them were well struck. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.240 Some of them weren't all that well struck, but sometimes 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.760 ball and play is your friend. They put a lot 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.280 of pressure on the Yankees get Ryan Weathers out of 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.120 the game. A really good night for the Tigers, and 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:39.720 we haven't even talked about the best part of the night, 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.040 which was which was Casey Mice. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.080 Yeah, and we'll get to him in a second. But 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.000 I did want to make note that this has to 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:47.720 be a record. I didn't go and look this up. 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:49.920 It would take a while to look this up, but 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:54.080 in the Hinch era, to have four left handed hitters 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.359 get a hit off a lefty, So that was James Altman, 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.240 Ken McGonagall carry Corporate during Zach mckinstory that it has 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.679 to be some sort of modern Tigers record because you're 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:06.920 just not getting that many at bats Leftyon left, you know, 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.040 in the Hinch era. So again, even McKinstry with the 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:13.600 fifty four mile an hour, like you know, exit velocity basin, 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:17.040 everything was working for them tonight. The only blemish obviously 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:20.480 Drew Sims finally allowing you know, not really find the zone, 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:21.480 allowing a home run there. 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:23.880 I gotta give a couple of tips to the cap 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:28.000 things I've been, you know, either skeptical of or whatever. 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:28.280 One. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.200 We've talked a lot about how you lee? 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:31.160 How do you lee? 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.799 Continues to just do good things. Man, it's in three 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.360 sixty with the five forty slug in the month of 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.400 June again, like the babbit's probably a little a little 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.720 too high to be sustained. You'd still like the walk 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.040 rate to go up. All that good stuff. But student's 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.320 out here just hitting the ball. He's using all fields now, 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:51.200 he's making plays. We won't talk about that. Slide. Guy 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.720 really deserves a lot of credit, like we are. I 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:55.520 don't know what he I'll be fascinated to see how 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.840 we're talking about how you lee in two years. I 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.520 don't know what's going to look like, but we're gonna 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.240 see a lot of kid And then carry carpenter left 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.440 on left like everyone, you know, why do they pinch it? 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.760 Why are they still pinching Jamai? You know, I've said 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.440 one thing Karp has to do a little better, even 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:13.400 against right handed pictures is control the strike zone. And 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.120 when he has seen lefties throughout his career, he hasn't 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.200 been very good. So, like it's a little tough to 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.080 justify more left handed at bats. You'd like to at 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:25.160 least see better signs. Tonight we saw some signs. It's 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.800 a ball to the wall, It takes a walk and 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.839 then drives one the opposite the opposite way. So really 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:35.159 good night for Karp against left handed batters or left 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.800 handed pitchers, more than we've seen from our boy Jami 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.080 against left handed pitchers recently. So two tips of the 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:41.560 cap there. 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:44.799 Yeah, but he just needs to fill, like you gotta 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:46.800 let him fail a little bit, you know, like you 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.719 can't get too caught up in like just those numbers 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:54.760 being that the tailltale sign of everything. I mean, lefties 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.960 on lefties, Like they gonna have to fill a little bit, 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:58.960 you know, right, he see right, he's a lot and 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.920 they get the opportunity to fail because there's just more righties. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.280 But hey, man, you're just gonna have to get You're 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:04.800 gonna give. 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.680 Him the opportunity to fail because you know that eventually 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.800 when he gets enough at bats, hey, he's gonna he's 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.600 gonna he's gonna make the adjustment. I think he'll make 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:17.520 the adjustment. And he has the opportunity to hit with power. 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.120 So if he's able to, you know, get those opportunities 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.080 to fail a little bit and just get his timing 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.560 and get his rhythm and being able to see a 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.359 lefty more often, Hey, I would take my chances with him, 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.560 you know, probably more than I would take any with 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:33.360 anybody else. 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:38.160 So well, not only that, but especially in Yankee Stadium, 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:43.240 which which I'm curious a Jax like, does it does 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.520 does that outfield like feel as shrunk as it looks 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.240 on TV? Like when you're when you're playing it, when 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.560 either as a hitter or just like in the outfield, 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:56.440 like it just it seems it seems kind of Little 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:00.599 League when you're watching it on TV with without the 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.360 walls seem I don't know, But when you're out in 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:03.520 the field, how does it feel? 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:08.080 No, it doesn't feel like that at all. Honestly, maybe 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.800 down the lines a little bit, but when you when 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:16.039 you take into factor like the gaps and center field 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:17.680 and where like it's big. 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:19.320 It's bigger than it looks. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.880 I know the lines and then you know what the 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.120 dimensions say, but you know when you're out there, when 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.840 you're in it, I don't know, there's something about it, man, 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.560 where it feels bigger than what the numbers with the 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:35.480 dimension say, especially the gaps, like it just feels huge. 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:40.520 Like I've never had this impression of Yankee Stadium being small. 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.440 I get it that you know, right field you can 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:43.440 poke one out there. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.240 Left field, you know, you pull it down the line. 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.440 I just never got that impression when I was playing there, 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.880 and honestly, when I was hitting there, I never I 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.159 never felt like it was small. And maybe it was 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.920 because all the other things that you got to take 0:06:57.960 --> 0:06:59.960 in the factor, like when you look down the line 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.359 you see the triple deck and you see you just 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.080 see it's just more and maybe it plays a little 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.920 you know, trick on the eyes as a hitter, and 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.280 then you know when you're out there on defense, like 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.880 I said, when you're out there in center field playing 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.960 you know my position, mostly like it was just it 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.600 was just it just felt bigger. And I think that 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.920 just play, you know, it's more about how that stadium 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:25.920 is built and when you're out there, you just when 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.640 you're in it, it just feels it feels a lot 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.240 bigger than what the dimensions say. And I and you know, 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:36.320 there's there's rumors that those dimensions are a lot shorter. 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.720 Than what they actually say. I don't know. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.040 Some people have hit it with a you know, with 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:42.760 a with a gun out there. You know, we got 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.800 a lot of golfriends out there and get on the 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:48.480 gun and they're like, yo, I don't think as you know, 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:50.920 but we'll be we'll be hushed us about that because 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:52.600 I don't even know we're supposed to be talking about that. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.920 But anyway, just you know, I mean, I don't know. 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.760 But again to your to your point, Karen, like, no, 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:01.360 it doesn't feel like that. 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:02.200 I do not. 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.320 I never got that impression of like, man, this feels 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.080 like a pop until somebody hits one right and then 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:12.480 you realize like, oh that ball got out quicker than 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:16.960 it would have in any other ballpark. But it doesn't 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.600 feel like that though. I don't know why, and I 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.080 think it's just because the gaps. The gaps was it's 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:25.080 like three ninety nine left center, and I think it's 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:26.400 like three eighty. 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.960 Three eighty five or something right center. That's that's pretty deep. 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.959 And then what I don't know, four hundred to center 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.360 field that I mean, that's that's pretty that's that's deep. 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.959 Like it feels. It feels a lot deeper than you 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.160 have to really get one as variety the left center 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.960 field to get one out. So it just never felt 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.440 like a small ballpark to me until somebody. 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.720 Here won the right obviously the right field. Then you realize, like, okay, 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:54.800 you know what I mean, Like I get. 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:58.880 It, it's really just the right field line that's the short. 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.040 Actually backed up by numbers. It's back up by the 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.200 numbers because Dan Dickerson pointed this out on the radio tonight, 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.880 Like you know, the home runs are you know, like 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.200 above average is a home run ballpark, you know down 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.040 the lines for all the reasons we understand, but like 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.280 run scoring is not like you would think those things 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.000 would be directly related, but they're actually not. In the 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.640 case of Yankee Stadium, I think it's like a very 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.920 medium run scoring ballpark. For I'm sure the reasons that 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.920 you late laid out there. So and that's another thing too, 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.640 Speaking of the home run, we didn't see a Tiger's 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:33.440 home run today. And I don't know if anybody caught 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.640 this on the radio broadcast, but this is only I 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.400 think the fifth game the Tigers have won this year 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:43.080 without hitting a home run. You know, they're like five 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.920 and whatever, twenty three, you know, I can't remember the 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.080 exact numbers, and then they're like thirty one and twenty 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.040 one or you know, don't do the math on that. 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.959 That just get the gist of it there when they 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.160 do hit a home run. So among the other kind 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.480 of weird things about this game, if you will, the 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:03.360 outlier stuff, that was one of them. 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I mean, the weirdness and the uniqueness of 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.280 this game probably pushed Casey Mice further back in this 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.840 episode than really he deserved because he was excellent tonight. 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:46.600 Seven innings what was it? One above the minimum ten k's. 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:48.520 He gave up one hit. It was a double to 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.760 uh to Spencer and did not advance past second base 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:55.480 at Spencer, So uh, one of those. Another reminder. We 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.880 talk a lot about like being repetitive, and it's like, 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.240 you know, the Fromber thing and like you know all 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.320 the Jack Flaherty all this stuff. Here's another repetitive, but 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:10.480 in a better way. Casey Miies has been dealing this 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.400 entire season and will probably end up being the victim 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:18.600 reputationally of this like poor Tigers record, because he should 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.000 be getting talked about a hell of a lot more 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.319 with the way he's pitched this season, and that includes 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.839 recovering from two il stints with the with the lower 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.840 body there Cody, Casey is dealing. 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:35.679 Casey Mayes was absolutely fantastic Monday Night. That goes without 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.680 saying was it the best game of his career, like 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.120 probably so, I think it was easily the most dominant. 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:45.000 I mean, he was just dialed in all night long. 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.760 The splitter on some of the very best we have 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.360 ever seen that pitch move. He had it consistently. He 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.400 was commanding the fastball. These are things we've seen him 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.080 do much of the year, and that's that's what's been 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.600 the greatest thing, is how he's putting the gather outing 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:02.839 after outing. Even Yeah, with kind of a broken season 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.480 with the il Stins, this game was almost a microcosma 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.520 of that. We almost didn't get to fully appreciate his 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.240 dominance because the innings were so long when the Tigers 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.840 were batting, between stringing together runs, between an injury delay, 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.480 all those things. So Casey had to overcome that too. 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.560 He was sitting in the dugout for a long time 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:21.679 and then he would get right back out there and 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:27.240 just absolutely shove. Yeah. I mean, he's been stellar this season. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:28.920 I don't know how much we want to go into 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:32.800 like trade deadline talk. If the Tigers do end up sellers, 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.320 it'll be kind of fascinating to see what sort of 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.760 return they maybe could get four Casey mines. 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.600 Yeah, but you also do got to remember like how 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:46.440 you know the Yankee Stadium can like it can it 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:50.200 can shock a lot of young players, right like it 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:54.000 can that aura of that stadium and what that kind 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:58.959 of creates for teams, even just like a pitcher, like 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.720 you can create this like aura this like ah, like 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.120 they kind of freeze up. It didn't do it that 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:06.960 that that had no effect on him, and like and 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:07.439 it was like. 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.960 Really there before anymore. 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:14.439 Yeah, but but you know it's still still it doesn't matter, 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:16.560 like it doesn't matter how many times you've been there, 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.880 how many times you you know, like there is that 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.920 when you step into that stadium. Man, like even if 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.560 you've been there, like cause I've been there, I've been 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.840 there where you step in there and it's like oh shoot, 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.280 like I gotta remember where I'm at. 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:30.360 It didn't affect him. 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.440 That was like cool to see though, Like to see 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.520 like that that confidence on the mound, like to see 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.800 the conviction and in the pitches, to see like the 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:43.760 confidence and and him execute pitches like him to mixing 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.480 pitches in different counts like that was really cool to see, 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:51.000 Like it it didn't affect him, and you know, I've 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.960 seen that many and many of times to pictures, even 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.760 veteran pictures where it looks like they they were affected 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.080 by the moment, by by the yan key aura like 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.600 I'm gonna call it that by the yankee or where 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:07.160 they like they were affected by the moment. 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:08.960 And he did. He wasn't. 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.400 He went in there, he pitched his butt off like 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.920 he didn't care who was who he was facing, He 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:16.360 didn't care what the count was. 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.560 He threw the pitches that he wanted, He executed the 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.360 pitches that he wanted, He put pitches where he wanted 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.480 to in each and every count. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.360 It was it was cool to see and that's like 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:30.480 the dominance that he's capable of, and he's a good 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.280 one having that pitch in rotation, Like it's cool to 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.920 see him be back and be healthy and be have 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:37.200 that confidence again. 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.360 And the arsenal was on full displays. As you said, Cody, again, 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.120 I just want to reiterate this for a second, ten strikeout, 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.960 zero walks. He you know, obviously you go seven innings 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.320 only eighty eight pitches, like he was in control this 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:54.840 entire game. And and to Ajax point, I kind of 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.600 thought like like if you watch him and you didn't 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:00.960 have the score bug on the TV, you would have thought, 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.400 like it's a one nothing game, it's three to two, 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.880 you know whatever. Like he he had an intensity about 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:10.120 him that definitely did not reflect being up five five 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.920 nothing that early game, seven nothing. Eventually the entire time 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:15.840 that he was out there, they're up, you know, like 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.280 big so Like that was one of the things that 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.280 really stood out to me. I really do believe we're 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.280 seeing a different level like was at his best outing. 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.360 I don't know that that doesn't doesn't necessarily do anything 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.760 for me, but it does, like it does feel like 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:33.440 we're seeing a more complete, uh and dialed in version 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.120 of Casey Miiz that we haven't seen just because of 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.640 injuries and general inconsistencies with being an up and coming player, 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.040 uh peaking at the right time or the wrong time, 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:44.120 putting on your perspective. 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:44.600 But he is. 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:46.800 He is awesome. Like if I was Brian Cashman, I'd 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.200 be like, I don't know if I really wanted to 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.400 leave the Bronx, you know, like like. 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:54.760 I don't want to see him though, I don't know 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:56.800 if I want to see this dude late and you 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.480 know when when his cross time, you know what I 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.960 mean that to me. That's how I look at it. 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:05.000 Like he wasn't scared, like he he grabbed him. He 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.600 grabbed him tonight and he grabbed both of them. It 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:09.600 was like, let's go. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:14.840 Well yeah, especially with the blowout piece of this. I know, Cody, 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.080 you touched on it, but like like the the long 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:22.000 sit downs and then again to maintain that intensity. Uh, 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.440 it felt like any like you know, balls out of 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.359 hand were on purpose and the Yankees were still not 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:28.840 being able to pick it up, you know, and then 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.560 with the tight slider and and and all this stuff. 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.760 So like Casey mais you know, flowers to you hope. 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:39.520 Yeah, he really could be like a fascinating trade piece 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.159 because he's a free agent for this year. Starting pitchers 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:43.720 are always in demand, so if we get there in 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.080 the Tigers sellers, that's going to be a thing. I 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.880 think the injury history could maybe give teams a little 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.840 bit of pause. It's also eligible for a qualifying offer 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:54.720 at the end of the year, so there's going to 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:56.760 be a pretty high bar for what the Tigers are 0:17:56.800 --> 0:18:00.000 trying to get back in return the way he's paid 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.439 right now, Like could this could he met you? I 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.800 don't know, A fringe top one hundred prospect. I would 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:09.879 kind of think that's what I'd be asking for. You know, 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.119 it's not impossible Casey might is going to finish this 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.080 season with a lower e er than Derek Scuoble. He 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.719 doesn't quite have the presence, the aura that the can 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.879 like well recently he's had the consistent dominance, but the 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.399 track record of Schooble. But like there's a lots of 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.119 like the athletic you know, we had we had a 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.359 big board and they put him I think, is like 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.960 the seventh or eighth best starting pitcher available, and I 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:33.560 would disagree with that. I think he's got to be 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.480 in the top five if not, you know, if not 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:37.040 higher the way he's been pitching lately. 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.520 Yeah, well, but you know, the trade stuff has to 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.920 kind of be like part of like on our mind 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.400 just because of you know, that's the reality of the situation. 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.600 But on a day like today, it's hard to just 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:52.679 kind of get gung ho about maybe you get a 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.280 fringe one hundred top one hundred prospect for Casey Maiz 0:18:55.400 --> 0:19:00.280 because this was as disappointing as the weekend was. The 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.040 blowing of the late leads, and of course the only 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:05.040 blemish was a bullpen, you know, runs given up by 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:09.640 the bullpen tonight, like like as disappointing as the results were, 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:11.399 one of the things that we talked about is like 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:13.400 you had the five get that you had a five 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:17.120 to five home stand and you had a plus whatever 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.120 four or five run differential, and so like it kind 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.920 of clouded the fact that overall the Tigers had been 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.679 playing like good baseball. They just kind of been on 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:27.560 the wrong end of some stuff, and I was on 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.159 a day that they were on the right end of things. 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:34.600 And then the other piece of this being that the 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.080