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Speaker 2: Yo, y'all, welcome back to another episode of the Ogs.

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Speaker 2: Today we have a very special episode. We usually have

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Speaker 2: because of the celebration. He just won his third championship

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Speaker 2: Fantasy League Football championship. So you did. Congratulations, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you plaining this video here you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so right right now, this is my uncle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's my uncle who I'm kicking in the face. If

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Speaker 3: That's my uncle.

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Speaker 1: I kicked him in the face. So he ain't never

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Speaker 1: made it to a championship in his life. This man

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Speaker 1: me so bad that, like I say, I had to

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Speaker 1: of everybody in our league. The man get a championship

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Speaker 1: one time, and you know somebody that make you feel

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Speaker 1: bad for winning, like this man helckled me so bad,

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Speaker 1: like I was the loser and I was actually winning.

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Speaker 3: So I just had to let him.

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Speaker 2: Have this third, third championship in the Fantasy league. He's

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Speaker 3: Man can.

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Speaker 1: Fantasy gurgle? Man, I'm a google with that man. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just obsessed with winning.

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Speaker 3: That's all it is. I'm assessed with winning.

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Speaker 2: But that ass man. The reason we are here and

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Speaker 2: the reason we are celebrating you today is in three days,

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Speaker 2: my brother is Jersey will be going on the rafters

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Speaker 2: at up with the Arena for the Miami Heat. It's

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Speaker 2: an unbelievable acomplishment. Man. Three time championship, three time champion,

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Speaker 2: most rebounds and Heat history, seventh most points in Heat history,

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Speaker 2: That's because you're old, damn Youl, And I don't like

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Speaker 2: to bring out old numbers and stats, but I have

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Speaker 2: to read this stuff. This stuff's impressive. Only six Heat

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Speaker 2: d Wade, Tim Hardaway, Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neal, Alonzo Morning.

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Speaker 2: Now you will be the seventh number forty.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: That's big time. Ud is one of only three players

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Speaker 2: That's Dirk and Kobe. Pretty good names there, my man.

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Speaker 2: and you, my brother. Less than two hundred players and

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Speaker 2: of almost only five thousand people who played in the

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Speaker 2: or two hundred, my brother, Wow, in his final regular

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Speaker 2: I love it what you did. You're mad that I

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, I know.

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Speaker 1: But his final game cigarette season, you think five minutes

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Speaker 3: So season? What you think I'm doing during the season.

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, we don't see behind the scenes. We don't

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Speaker 2: And today you're sitting here in your jersey. Talk to

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Speaker 1: Too for show for sure. What two things. First thing

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Speaker 2: Let's let's get into it so we know where you're

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Speaker 2: We read all the stuff that and the few people

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Speaker 2: all right. Give me Miami High. Obviously, being down here

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Speaker 1: I mean from Miami High. You understand, like Frank Martin,

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Speaker 3: He was moldering us to be man.

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Speaker 1: So every situation, you know what I'm saying, everything we

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Speaker 1: We talking about the coach that to get up at

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Speaker 2: And that's true too, because I played a lot of

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Speaker 2: The only thing that was you know I wish would

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Speaker 1: Instead of you coming, they said Ted team. Instead of you,

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Speaker 2: But you come from Miami High, you go to University

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Speaker 2: But now they got it. They got the Hall of

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Speaker 2: Was a man it Pops tell us about so college

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Speaker 1: I will say. You know what I'm saying, Understanding how

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Speaker 3: That work in. So for me, the biggest transition was

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Speaker 2: Before we get there, though, Let's talk about draft night,

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Speaker 2: so obviously, you know we talked about it for me

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Speaker 3: It right, Yeah, I didn't get drafted draft draft night.

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Speaker 2: On draft night, you know, you you go through that

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Speaker 3: I don't recognize by eighty percent of them.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, But what I will say is this,

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Speaker 2: So when you walked out of that, what I mean,

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Speaker 2: obviously you talk about it. It's an unbelievable I mean,

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Speaker 2: what what what do you say?

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Speaker 2: What what's next? What do I gotta do? Like?

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Speaker 1: Man, that I gave one night? You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I ain't go. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I was frustrated, you know what I'm saying, probably embarrassed,

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Speaker 3: So it's so yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And the coach that told me it was gonna draft

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Speaker 1: live yeah shocker. Yeah, I gotta say, Nate, theymen, Millie,

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Speaker 1: as you said, if you're there five picking the second round,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take you took Reggiaevs. Shout out of Reggie Evs,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: And I can't say this like with certainty, but I

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Speaker 1: Well, before we get to that, I know why you

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Speaker 1: But man, I just remember that night, you know what

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing Charles Barkley saying, Now I'm shocked, that

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Speaker 1: Lifted me up a little because when you asked somebody

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So shout out Chuck for that.

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Speaker 1: You probably don't remember that, but I do.

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Speaker 2: And he's seen it all.

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Speaker 3: I don't forget nothing. Yea, he seen it all.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he has seen it all. He's one of the

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Speaker 2: Back to it. I didn't mean to cut you off.

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Speaker 3: I want to hear.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear the story. So draft to night.

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Speaker 2: You look, you have one day. What's where are you

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Speaker 3: Man? So that night I ain't get drafted.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: I was pissed off. I stayed home, I sat in

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Speaker 1: I was like, fuck the NBA. I want to go overseas.

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Speaker 2: And let me tell you something. We're gonna throw off

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Speaker 3: You remember that, I do.

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Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is killer is in that summer league,

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Speaker 2: It was the highest on that ship list.

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Speaker 2: It was always fun to understand the ship list.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ship probably the league, the whole league league. You

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I mean, I can find a

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Speaker 1: Oh for sure. For sure, I'm old school. I can

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Speaker 2: So I drop him off looking like that, I pick

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Speaker 1: I ain't staying here. I'm taking my ass back to

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Speaker 2: Who walks? What?

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Speaker 1: and I'm saying, okay, lock the door and I'm coming out.

438
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Speaker 1: These motherfuckers. There's no way, under no circumstances. Lock the

439
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Speaker 1: door and I'm coming out. And that's literally what it was.

440
00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,160
Speaker 1: And what people don't understand is, you know what I'm saying.

441
00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,560
Speaker 1: For the first maybe two years of my career with

442
00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,399
Speaker 1: the MOMY he I never spoke to pat Riley.

443
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

444
00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,639
Speaker 2: The first two years, you never spoke to r He

445
00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:11,159
Speaker 2: spoke to me, but.

446
00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,399
Speaker 3: I didn't speak to him. But the one time he

447
00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:14,000
Speaker 3: spoke to me.

448
00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,320
Speaker 2: I was like, so, what's up, dog? How you doing? Man?

449
00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,080
Speaker 3: Hell no, man, let's let me tast something.

450
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Speaker 2: Man.

451
00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,360
Speaker 1: I was just happy to be in lead and thirdly, man,

452
00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,240
Speaker 1: I was a little nervous. I ain't you know what

453
00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When you see the pat Riley and the Godfather,

454
00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so you know what

455
00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,199
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That was the first time I was ever

456
00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,119
Speaker 1: a little intimidated, you know what I'm saying. So the

457
00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,760
Speaker 1: first time he said something to me, I thought I

458
00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,840
Speaker 1: was in trouble. You know what I'm saying. We running

459
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Speaker 1: the rebound and drill boom boom, everybody banging, passing, passing,

460
00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,160
Speaker 1: shot goes up, ball bounced off the rim. The motherfucking

461
00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,600
Speaker 1: ball went to half court. I struck out and chased

462
00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,640
Speaker 1: the motherfucker boom, going to get it, like my life

463
00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,200
Speaker 1: depended on it. Pat Blue to was well world world stop.

464
00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,360
Speaker 1: I said shit, He said, why do you chase that ball?

465
00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,919
Speaker 1: I looked around and said, well, I didn't hear whistle.

466
00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,080
Speaker 1: He looked at me and said, good job. I almost

467
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Speaker 1: shit my pants. I thought I was out of there.

468
00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,680
Speaker 1: I thought I was out. Damn fast forward coming back.

469
00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,800
Speaker 1: Keith Askins told me, kut a shot out. K A

470
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,800
Speaker 1: lot of people can shoot, a lot of people can score.

471
00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,960
Speaker 1: The way you're gonna make this team in defending and rebounding,

472
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Speaker 1: and that was just my mindset from the jump.

473
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Speaker 2: Man. I hope a lot of young kids will listen

474
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Speaker 2: to this. Man, Oh yeah, I mean for real, because

475
00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,440
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, like that's the stuff

476
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Speaker 2: that makes it like and as being an agent, a father,

477
00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,320
Speaker 2: you know, a coach like that, you know, hearing not

478
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Speaker 2: hearing your name called, and then changing doing that shit

479
00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,239
Speaker 2: and just buying into being a rebounder, defender and all

480
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Speaker 2: that stuff. And then obviously you know because if you

481
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:36,440
Speaker 2: changed those things.

482
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Speaker 1: But if you remember in college, killer, I didn't rebound

483
00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,960
Speaker 1: the defend worth for shit. I could score now I

484
00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,680
Speaker 1: could score, but I ain't rebound defenworth for shit. That

485
00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,200
Speaker 1: wasn't my thing, you know what I'm saying. So understanding,

486
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Speaker 1: like you guys at home, man, if you can contribute

487
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Speaker 1: to winning, if you can help a team win, you

488
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, they will have a spot for you.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But if you think you finish just coming there and

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492
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Speaker 1: that way, that ain't it.

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Speaker 2: So you get through camp, what do they sign you

494
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Speaker 2: to when you get through camp?

495
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Speaker 3: Then two year deal? To zero point one million.

496
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Speaker 1: First year was four hundred thousand, second year was seven

497
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand, fully guaranteed, fully guaranteed. But the thing was,

498
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Speaker 1: they didn't sign me until san Antonio offered me a

499
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Speaker 1: one year deal. So when I left the Miami Heat

500
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Speaker 1: and I played with the Miami Heat, I averaged a

501
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502
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Speaker 1: San Antonio Summer League was in Las Vegas at that time.

504
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Speaker 1: Miami Summer League was in Orlando. So as soon as

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Speaker 1: I finished with the Miami Heat, I fly straight to

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507
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Speaker 1: I practiced with them. We'll leave and go straight to Vegas.

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511
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512
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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 1: That crazy thing about it was I ended up having

534
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Speaker 1: to start my first game. So we end up playing

535
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Speaker 1: some preseason games in Puerto Rico and we had some injuries. Okay,

536
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Speaker 1: so Pat called me to be in the starting lineup.

537
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Speaker 1: I'm once again I'm looking around at what the fuck?

538
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Speaker 1: And we just so happened to be playing one of

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540
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Speaker 1: Oh the NBA game didn't that was just basketball. Playing

541
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 1: against A I was like a damn. I got to

542
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Speaker 1: come out against AI the first game, you know what

543
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Not that I got to guard here and

544
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 1: every play, but coming down here. Listen, hey, I give

545
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Speaker 1: everybody for there fifty you know what I'm saying. So

546
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Speaker 1: my first game I was I wasn't nervous. I was

547
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Speaker 1: more excited, and I guess being on the courte AI

548
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Speaker 1: was the big thing for me. That was a big

549
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Speaker 1: deal for me, you know what I'm saying, coming where

550
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Speaker 1: we come from. Yeah, that was from the culture, man,

551
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The braids and the head man,

552
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Speaker 1: the baggy clothes, you know, all the ship that I

553
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: was into. So it was a big deal to be

554
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Speaker 1: on the court AI. But basketball was just basketball, same.

555
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Speaker 2: Thing as always. Right, Yeah, man, fast forward, you win

556
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: your first championship in six talk about that team obviously

557
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 2: where it came, because it was it wasn't It wasn't

558
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,959
Speaker 2: the smoothest of years. It's kind of a turbulent deal, right,

559
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Speaker 2: So talk to us about these six years.

560
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Speaker 1: He had a good team. That demn good team. Off

561
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: the court, we had fun. That shit came together at

562
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: the right time. You know what I'm saying, what I

563
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 1: will what I say about that team is that team

564
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: always had talent, but we just didn't know how it

565
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Speaker 1: was gonna come together. That was a time where in

566
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: the NBA a lot of NBA guys was making money

567
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: by doing parties in different cities.

568
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Speaker 3: So we land in the city.

569
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Speaker 1: Anshy Walker got a party, Shot got a party, Dwayne

570
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 1: got a party, Gary Payton got a party, the first

571
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Speaker 1: tea party. Yeah, and I'm going to offer, Oh, I'm

572
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: going to everybody party. Wow, be a good teamate, can't

573
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Speaker 1: nobody else.

574
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 2: You know what that's called sack Exactly.

575
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Speaker 1: If I go to one guy's party and not the

576
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Speaker 1: other guy's party and I lucky, I'm sure a favoritism.

577
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: So with that team right there, the good thing about

578
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 1: that team is that, you know what I'm saying people

579
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: don't understand is part of this ship is connection. For sure,

580
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: part of this shit is connection. You got to connect

581
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Speaker 1: the group of guys that love playing with each other,

582
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Speaker 1: that actually give a fuck about each other off the

583
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Speaker 1: basketball court, then that shit translates to being on the

584
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Speaker 1: basketball court. So the one thing we did with that

585
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: team is we spent a lot of time together when

586
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Speaker 1: we weren't playing with the party.

587
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Speaker 3: But we were still together.

588
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: I remember one time with that letter Rose called a

589
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: time out man and he gets us in the huddle

590
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: and he's about to drop a player. He just drops

591
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Speaker 1: the pen and said, this is fucking ridiculous. The ship

592
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: has to stop. So everybody looking around say, I'm gonna

593
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: start giving out p u I s playing under the

594
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Speaker 1: influence on mother one boy, one more you motherfucker's come

595
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: in here smelling like this. I'm gonna start heading up

596
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 1: p UIL for playing under the influence.

597
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 2: Crazy.

598
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: So with that being said, the one thing we did

599
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: with that team was we connected. So actually the weird

600
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: thing was when we got to the playoffs, we probably

601
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Speaker 1: were the most connected group of guys in that locker room.

602
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: You gotta understand where we came from being down to

603
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Speaker 1: Dallas and what we had to overcome.

604
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Speaker 3: That's connection. We probably weren't better than Dallas.

605
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: They might have had a little more talent with dirt,

606
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: more talent to me for sure, But where we are

607
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: more connected group where we are a tougher group. Did

608
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Speaker 1: we have more grit? I think that's what we were

609
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: able to take that series. P U I playing under

610
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Speaker 1: the influence that True started killing motherfuckers, was burping in

611
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Speaker 1: the huddle and ship I was like.

612
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Speaker 2: Damn, you're getting hit with a Pui.

613
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 3: That's nuts man. All right.

614
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: So it's two thousand and six, you win it. Uh,

615
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: Let's talk about which championship was your favorite though, because

616
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 2: you come back and then you went, we went back

617
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: to back. We joined the team. You have the big

618
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: three on there in the Little twelve. We were part

619
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Speaker 2: of the Little twelve.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Probably, So which championship to me? You know, which was

622
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: your favorite? And why? Man?

623
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Speaker 3: The first?

624
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the first is always gonna be my favorite, just

625
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Speaker 1: because of everything I had to overcome, coming from overseas,

626
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Speaker 1: you know, like I said, before I even set foot

627
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Speaker 1: on the basketball court, there was an article written by

628
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Speaker 1: Dan lebertad I love you, Dan, but you tried me,

629
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: saying that shock got you Dan trap me, Dan, I

630
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Speaker 1: love you, but you tried me, saying that shot could

631
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Speaker 1: never win with a power forward six seven six, six

632
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Speaker 1: sixty seven.

633
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: You're six seven and a half anyway.

634
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the.

635
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Speaker 1: Motherfucker just won with Travis Knight. That's what the fuck

636
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: is you talking about? What the fuck is you talking about?

637
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: He just won with Travis Knight. You go single me out.

638
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 3: I kicked Travis night ass seven days a week and

639
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 3: tice on.

640
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: Sunday, twice on Sunday because I just felt like it, Yeah,

641
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: sound better, sound better? So like for that, just right

642
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: there instantly, you see how I am.

643
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 3: I don't.

644
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: I have not forgot that ship. What motherfuckers don't understand

645
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 1: is you tell me I can't. I'll show you I can.

646
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So that was right there instantly. Yeah,

647
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: he's a mimmy gy.

648
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 3: I love his mom, I love his dad, I love Poppy,

649
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 3: I love this show. It's all the time.

650
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: But Dan tried me so instantly. I already had. I

651
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: already had, I was already motivated, I already was fired up.

652
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: I already had something to prove. And then you understand

653
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: the type of playoff run that Dirk had. Oh man,

654
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: he was body bagging motherfuckers and it was bad, it

655
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: was hard. He was he ran through okay, see he

656
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: ran through San Antonio. I mean he was killing motherfuckers now,

657
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: with that being said, got one of my boys over here.

658
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: So understand where I come from. If I let Dirk

659
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: do me, he did it. The other people, My boys

660
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: gonna let me hear about it. They ain't gonna let

661
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: me sleep, They don't let me know.

662
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: They'll be quiet.

663
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: Germany to your ass up, to your ass up, boy,

664
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: and they gonna be on me. You know what I'm saying.

665
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: So understand where I come from. Man, it's a lot

666
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 1: that was riding on that man. And once I got

667
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: my opportunity, like I tell all these guys, man, once

668
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: you get your opportunity, man, nobody cares what happened before that.

669
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: Nobody cares whatever were you're not ready, nobody cares what

670
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: you're going through personally.

671
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 4: You have to be ready, stay ready. Say you don't

672
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 4: have to get ready now. D Wade was and we're

673
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 4: gonna talk about that because I remember that unbelievable. Yes,

674
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 4: so he was always really, really good, but that kind

675
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 4: of was just coming out in my opinion on that stage.

676
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 4: Talk about him in that series and what happened here,

677
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 4: because that was unbelievable.

678
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: First of all, people don't understand that night before we

679
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: actually won the series, being the way they didn't get

680
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: my sleep. Okay, not partying, not this time, not this time.

681
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: We just couldn't sleep, man. You know what I'm saying.

682
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: It was just one of those things where we just

683
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: couldn't sleep. But you know what I will say about

684
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: Dwayne is I had a homeboy, and my homeboy dragged

685
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: shout out that told me long time ago many I

686
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: got this dude from Marquette that got a trip with

687
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: Double Guesst Kentucky, and he's pretty good. I had never

688
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: met Dwayne where people don't. I came from overseas to

689
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: come back to be so that summer when I was

690
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: working out and me and Dwayne spent the whole summer together,

691
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, working out. He was in

692
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: Miami for the first time, never really got away from home.

693
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: So I was like, Yo, come with me.

694
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 3: I got you.

695
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna roll, We're gonna do this, We're gonna do that.

696
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: So I had an opportunity firsthand to see how good

697
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: Dwayne really was. So our days at that time was

698
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: we would get up in the morning, we would run

699
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: at the track. We would head from the track to

700
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: the arena. We would lift weights, we would shoot and

701
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: go through our basketball workout. We would eat lunch, we

702
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: would come back and shoot again later and then we

703
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: would play pick up at the Overtown Youth Center. And

704
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: that's how me and Dwayne spent that whole summer, you

705
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we got a chance to

706
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: grow together, you know what I'm saying, to connect like that.

707
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: So with him, I always understood how talented he was.

708
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying now, coming into that first year,

709
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: people don't understand Dayne had to run a point. He

710
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: had never ran the point before. So when he came

711
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: into the league at first, sure he had the ball

712
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: in his hands a lot. You know what I'm saying.

713
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: His natural instinct is to go go get it. He

714
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: was going so he was going to get it, you

715
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And rightfully, so he had the talent.

716
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: So we just followed.

717
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: We understood we had something special, you know what I'm saying.

718
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: And it was my job to make sure that he

719
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: stayed safe and healthy. My job to make sure he

720
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: stayed safe for healthy.

721
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: He did a good job.

722
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel me.

723
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: So you go through both phases of it, right, you

724
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: see Coacho, You see coach Riley, give me the difference

725
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: in their coaching styles. What it was like. I mean,

726
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: obviously to me being there a little bit that I

727
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: was in Miami and being a part of it, it

728
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: still had that feel of Ryle's. But coach Spoe to

729
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: me was didn't get the credit he deserved either. Right,

730
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: So tell me the difference in their coaching styles actually

731
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: on the on the on the floor and the.

732
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: Clipboard open door. Probably just the way they communicate with you.

733
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: You're liable to go in Roles office and Riles might

734
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: tell you get the fuck out my office. The Godfathers

735
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: you lied with you going spa office and spoke, gonna

736
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: hear you out, and then he'll tell you to get

737
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: his office. He'll tell you get the fuck out his office.

738
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna hear you out, and then he goes. He'll

739
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: probably follow like we'll talk about it, we'll get back,

740
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: we'll try to find a happy medium. I'll meet you

741
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: in the middle. You know, we'll figure it out. Listen,

742
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: do you remember where you so you don't remember? Doliac

743
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: Love Michael doliak Man. Michael doliac Man, we had we

744
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: at one time, one time we had lost about four

745
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: games in the row and Rowles walks in practice and

746
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: tells all the coaches to leave. He sits us down

747
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: on the wall and he he cusses us and motherfucks

748
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: us for about ten minutes, and he says, if anybody

749
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: have any issues, you come see me after this fucking meeting.

750
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: Soon as we leave the meeting, Doliac walks in his office.

751
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: We go downstairs because practice is over. Doliac comes downstairs.

752
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: I say, hey, Dotie, what he say? He told me

753
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: to get the fuck out of the office, all right,

754
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: So that'd be a said understood, man, rows ain't with

755
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: that shit. Spot might let you get that ship out.

756
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: He gonna let it go in one end and out

757
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: there the spot understairs. Like with players nowadays. You know

758
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you gotta play the you gotta play

759
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: the middle game. You know what I'm saying. Rounds is

760
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: either this, this is what we're doing, and if they

761
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: for you get the fuck out my office.

762
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: So we so we fast forward that you win those

763
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: two world championships. You end up with three championships. Unbelievable.

764
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: So you have twenty year career. Jersey's going up. Everything's

765
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: in place. Talk about working into your last game or

766
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: your career. What was your mindset going into that? Obviously

767
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: I touched on at the beginning, like you know, you

768
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: get mad at me every time I tell you I

769
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: didn't see the ship coming.

770
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: What the fuck you thought I was gonna do?

771
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: Coach?

772
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: What did you see in your in your mind?

773
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 5: Wait?

774
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: What did you ship? Coach? Okay, but the reality of

775
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: the situation, guys, this is.

776
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: The last game kill you thought I wasn't gona let

777
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: that motherfucker.

778
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: Rouse had to dust the ship off though it's been.

779
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 3: A minute's playing every day.

780
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: I know you play every day, but there's a difference

781
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: between playing every day and then breathing out there on

782
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: that mothering court.

783
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeah you're right, all right, And so you go out

784
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 3: there and.

785
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: What twenty five minutes? Have twenty four points? Something?

786
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 3: Right?

787
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 2: Elite?

788
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: I got a clip?

789
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah I know.

790
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: Bro.

791
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, why is he beating me up for?

792
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: Because man, I'm your homie. You supposed to be on

793
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: my side.

794
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: I am on your side.

795
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: My kids winning.

796
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: My kids even want some money on that ship they

797
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: bet for you, these little apps and ship out here

798
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: that they got these little ships. People said I was

799
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: only gonna score like five points. But of course my

800
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: kids took that bet. Of course they took that fucking bet.

801
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: If they would, they would have needed another place to

802
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: fucking sleep.

803
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: So so your kids win money. Yeah, unbelievable. But tell

804
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: me about like going into that game, your mindset, you

805
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: know it's your last one.

806
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: Like I was nervous, here's the deal, and.

807
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: This is this is where I have it up. You

808
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,239
Speaker 2: should where where most people don't understand is in our

809
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: in our line of work, in our business, right if

810
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: very few people get to pick their last day. Yeah

811
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: yeah right, So like everyone asked how it was my

812
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: last game, I didn't know it was gonna be my

813
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: last game. Like I didn't think I wanted to play

814
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: again when I got done because my kids were going,

815
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 2: but I didn't know for sure, so I didn't get

816
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: to go in that game. But like, okay, and have

817
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: you know team rolled me out there and do what

818
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: you did, which is an unbelievable uh you know for

819
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: you to be able to do that, So you going

820
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: into that talk to me about that and what it

821
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: was like and then walking off that motherfucker the last time.

822
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: I was nervous the night before. Yeah, you know what

823
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I was nervous the night before. But what people,

824
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, don't understand is with us and they always

825
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: talk about how much I give to the younger guys

826
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: and how you know what I'm saying, I help them.

827
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: Those guys help me as well.

828
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: Sure, every day I'm playing one on one, every day,

829
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm playing two on two every day, I'm in some

830
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: kind of drill, you know what I'm saying, and being

831
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 1: a part of practice and competition. So you know, as

832
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: much as I'm prepping those guys, I'm prepping myself as well.

833
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: So for me, you know, the only thing I had

834
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: to worry about was my conditioning. I didn't have to

835
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: worry about getting a rhythm. I didn't have to worry

836
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: about how I would feel in the basketball court because

837
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: I had been playing every day, you know what I'm saying.

838
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: So I was nervous.

839
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying this is because my last game,

840
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to go out the right way. I wanted

841
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: to go out with a bang. I wanted to put

842
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: on a good show for everybody. But you know, as

843
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: far as the preparation and stepping into it, man, I

844
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: got to shout out my teammates. You know what I'm saying,

845
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: because as much as I helped them, they helped me

846
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: as well.

847
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: Again, it's unique for you to be able to pick

848
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: your last game, walk off how you want to walk off.

849
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: You know, play twenty years, have an unbelievable career, Jersey

850
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: against going up in the rafters. When did you start

851
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: preparing and understanding retirement and what you wanted to do?

852
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: Man?

853
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: So, like you said, said, to be able to land

854
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: your own plane, you know what I'm saying, that's that's

855
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: a blessing that a lot of guys don't have. We

856
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: understand how this business is. So twenty years was a

857
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: milestone that I talked about my father before he passed away,

858
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, and I was always back and forth about

859
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, if I was gonna keep going, you know,

860
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: how would the summer look? And every time, you know,

861
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: as a new undrafted guy coming in, that just remind me,

862
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: just reminds me, just reminds me of why I'm here,

863
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: And it reminds me of I was that guy and

864
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: also be able to remind those guys if look where

865
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm at now, look what I was able to accomplish.

866
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: You see what people don't understand is you know what

867
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, just because you come in this league undrafted

868
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you have to take an undrafted mentality of

869
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: taking being second to somebody. You know what I'm saying,

870
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: because we wasn't drafted, that we got to play second

871
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: fieldal or we got to back down or fuck.

872
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: The only difference at that time is a paycheck, right, Yeah.

873
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: That's the only difference man. For me.

874
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: You know, I always see these guys walking into these

875
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: locker rooms in the same situation, and I see myself

876
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: in a lot of these guys. So when you look

877
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: at our team and you look at the guys, you

878
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: look at a Gay Benson who just got paid with

879
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: the Lakers. You look at a Max Strus who just

880
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: got paid with Cleveland. You look at Caleb who we

881
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: just paid. You know what I'm saying. You look at

882
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: all these guys that have come you know what I'm saying,

883
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: that have been undrafted, guys that have played for the

884
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: Miami Heat, or even guys that have come to us

885
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: when you know they were kind of on their last

886
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: leg or their career didn't go to where they thought

887
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: it would go. You know what I'm saying, dear waiters,

888
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,479
Speaker 1: came here and he resurrected his career. Got sixty JJ

889
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: came resurrected, Got sixty six, Hassan Whiteside. So all these

890
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: guys come here, and I see myself and all these guys,

891
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: and I see a place where other organizations weren't willing

892
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: to step in. I see a place where I can

893
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: step in. And it's a trust thing, you know what

894
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because at the end of the day, it's

895
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: hard to trust motherfucker's upstairs.

896
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can trust me.

897
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's why to me, I tip my hat even

898
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: to Miami the organization, because what they do is they

899
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: give you opportunities to develop the build right, Yes, yes,

900
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: in life different than you like, all you need is

901
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: an opportunity. You're not getting there on your own. I

902
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: don't care what pick you are, undrafted, whatever it is,

903
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: it's opportunities, yes, And Miami Can continues to do it

904
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: at a regular basis of undrafted dudes or or defunk

905
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: guys or guys that are picked fifteen that doesn't make it.

906
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: Also now they're stars again, right, So like I got

907
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: tim my hat to them dudes. They always do that

908
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: and a lot of it has to do with the

909
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: fact that they always let veteran stay around to help police. Yes, right,

910
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: like they have an identity and a culture. You know,

911
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: when you walk through the door, what's going to look like. Yes,

912
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: but it also needs to be policed by players.

913
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's what a lot of things that

914
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: you know we do. Spoe handles the exes and Oo's.

915
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: We police ourselves, We police our locker room. We hold

916
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: ourselves accountable. You know what I'm saying. There's conversations that

917
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: we're going to have and you might not like it,

918
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But at the end of

919
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: the day, you understand it's for the best and you

920
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: understand what we're trying to get accomplished.

921
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: Would that being said?

922
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: Everybody's motivated differently, But Spoe and the Miami heat Way

923
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: is we hold ourselves accountable. We police ourselves. You know

924
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's got to come from us. If

925
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: it's coming from the coach, we we got a problem.

926
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: If it's coming from the coach, then we in trouble, guys,

927
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So we've been able to

928
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: figure that out on our own.

929
00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: Man.

930
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: And when these guys come in here as an expectation.

931
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I don't give a fuck

932
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: if you're undrafted. I don't give a fuck where you

933
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: just came from. First and foremost, someone get to know you,

934
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: get to know where you're from, and get to where about.

935
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm gona got to know these guys families. I know

936
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: these guys moms. I know these guys dads. I know

937
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: they brothers and sisters. So when you come in here,

938
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: it ain't just a young fella. Go get my motherfucking

939
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: jockstrapped and let's get rolling. No, I'm gonna show you respect.

940
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: You deserve that. Shit don't translate no more. The ship

941
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: that happened when we came in the league translated when

942
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: we came.

943
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: They ain't warning them no more.

944
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: That ship that happened when we came in the league,

945
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: where we had to do all that ship five vests,

946
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: it doesn't translate to these young guys no more.

947
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So you got to handle

948
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: these ya young motherfuckers would care.

949
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: I'm I'm glad to say that. It's actually a good

950
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: segue to the next thing you've played and in Finals

951
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: in three different decades. Yeah, you've seen the trans You've

952
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: seen how the game's pivoted and moved, the difference in players,

953
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: the difference in styles, the difference in everything. Really that

954
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: comes out because you're talking about it. So give me

955
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: the difference in the two the biggest two like our

956
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: era when you were at your prime and winning championships

957
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: in the era. Now, what's what's the difference in the

958
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: league right now?

959
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: One is a physicality and two is they don't want

960
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 3: know me range.

961
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: So physicality and mid ranges are yeah, and now free motion.

962
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 5: Three.

963
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: Now it's positionless basketball. You know what I'm saying. Everybody

964
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: can play everywhere. You know what I'm saying. So if

965
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: the big rebounds, he doesn't have to outlet it to

966
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: the guard. The big can bring it up, the guards

967
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: can feel the lane, you know what I'm saying. You

968
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: can get into your offense from there. Whereas back in

969
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: the day, when the big rebounded, he was outlet and

970
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: we were starting to offense from that. Now everything is

971
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, everything is you know, free flowing. You know

972
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Positionless. You can be on anywhere in

973
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: the court and play any position. So now instead of

974
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: just knowing you're one spot, you got to know all

975
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: five spots, you know what I'm saying. Obviously, the way

976
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: the game is changes with the three point shooting, you

977
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like nobody wants mid range now

978
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: the game is about either getting in the paint and

979
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: getting a paint touch to which is a dunk or

980
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: layer or spread for three mid range is almost like

981
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: death right now.

982
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: So you talk about that though, but the game is

983
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: in great hands. The next players, the Jaws and the

984
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: Wemby's like the game, the game defive ZI like the

985
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: game's taking that.

986
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: Like the elite athletes, Yes, you know, the talent is unmatched,

987
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: and the way they put the balls in the hole,

988
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: the way they play, how fast these motherfuckers are. Athletic

989
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: they are, They're getting smarter, you know, figuring out different

990
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: ways to get their shots off, and you know, all

991
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: these different things. So you know, the game is definitely

992
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: moving forward. But those are just things that have changed.

993
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter to me how the game change.

994
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: What matters to me is how you approach the motherfucker.

995
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: They can change what the fuck they want to change,

996
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: But when you get in between these motherfucking lines. It's

997
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: gonna be me and you and mostly me, So it

998
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: doesn't fucking matter if we could be me and you

999
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: and mostly me. Motherfucker like that shit doesn't matter. I

1000
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: don't care about that. You can change every fucking rule

1001
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: you want, because when you lock the door, I'm gonna

1002
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: figure out a way to come out. And that's the

1003
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: mentality we take when we step on the basketball court.

1004
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: Man.

1005
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: Nine times out of ten. Man, we get into these

1006
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: games and people look at us and they say, why

1007
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: the Mima Heat playing and how can the Mima Heat

1008
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: beat these people? Because we tougher than these motherfuckers. That's

1009
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: why in a seven game series, ain't nobody reinventing the wheel?

1010
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: Everything I run you probably seen before, Everything you ran,

1011
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: everything I'm ana run you've seen before, and everything you

1012
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: run out of seene before. Ain't nobody ran venting will

1013
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: We ain't tricking each other. This ship coming down the grip,

1014
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: this shit coming down to grit it ain'in't nobody doing.

1015
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody running nothing that we ain't seen before. You

1016
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: get a seven game series and go watch film like

1017
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: they brust out something. And the annexation to Puerto Rico

1018
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: like they just drew up some new ship. They ain't

1019
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: drawn up no new ship. That's the same ship to

1020
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, you remember, little giants. They ain't drawing up

1021
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: no new ship. Man, you don't seen that ship before.

1022
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do to stop it? And if you

1023
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: can't stop it, come sit next to me. We'll find

1024
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: somebody else that can. Pretty simple concept, man, you're fucking.

1025
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 3: Right, man.

1026
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: And that's what it's boil down to, because at the

1027
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 1: end of the day, we most organizations are not gonna

1028
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: let somebody come in for their best player or come

1029
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: in for their starter, not for us. If I started

1030
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: fucking around, come sit here, somebody come in for you.

1031
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: And that's what it's. Probably a fucking undrafted dog that

1032
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: won't do minutes anyway, that wants them fucking minutes anyway.

1033
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: And you're gonna see what that undrafted, hungry, thirsty motherfucker

1034
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: do with your minutes.

1035
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: I'm already got it.

1036
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 3: I already got hot sauce in this water ball. I

1037
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: didn't already put hot sauce in his water bottle. He

1038
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: ready to go?

1039
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think you retired.

1040
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 3: I already put fucking hot sauce in his water bottle.

1041
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: He's ready to go.

1042
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: So now that you're already retired, yeah, telling people man,

1043
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: because people are gonna want to know, what what are

1044
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: you gonna do with your life? Besides having an absolutely

1045
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: elite podcast? What are you gonna do with your life? Man?

1046
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: For me, it's time now to explore all these hitting

1047
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: talents that I have. Jesus, let me. One thing is

1048
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 3: I got to give the gap.

1049
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: Yes you do.

1050
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 3: I can talk my ass I could talk my ass off.

1051
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: So you know, one of those things is obviously this podcast,

1052
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: you know, doing a little bit of basketball on the

1053
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: TV side. Obviously the maturation and the growth of the

1054
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: young guys with the Miami Heat. I got my medical marijuana,

1055
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: got my affordable housing, I got franchises, ship were touching everything,

1056
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: man to pus ought to push hustler man, you donas buffet.

1057
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: Huh's damn right, Warren Haslam, Yeah right now, I love him.

1058
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, push hustler baby, like it is what we

1059
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: do next. What what I tell people all the time

1060
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: is I don't know what I'm gonna do next. What

1061
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: the city need?

1062
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: What we need here?

1063
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: I go down, I sit down with the mayors. I

1064
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 1: go sit down with the commissioners and they tell me, Okay,

1065
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: this is what we're doing, this is what the city needs,

1066
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: and I know how to bridge the gap. So the

1067
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: people in the hood can't go sit down with the mayor.

1068
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: People the hood can't go sit down with the commissioner,

1069
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: but I can so once I understand what they need. Yeah,

1070
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: once I understand what they need, and I take it

1071
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: to the commissioners. I take it to the mayors, and

1072
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: the mayors and the commissioners tell me what they can do,

1073
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: and then that's what we figure out what we need

1074
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: to do.

1075
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: That's a good thay're using the platform. At the end

1076
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: of the day, you sacrificed to do a lot, but

1077
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: now there's a platform where you can be a bridge

1078
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 2: for other people.

1079
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's elite.

1080
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: I tell all these young guys, man, your fellas, when

1081
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: y'all take your ass back to your hometowns in the

1082
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: off season, take an hour, go sit down with your

1083
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: mails and your mission is in the city. They would

1084
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: love to one they would love to have you in

1085
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: their office. They would love to have you in their office.

1086
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: And two, man, that's how you start connecting the dots

1087
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: of really being able to affect and improve your community.

1088
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: So now that you're retired, though, there's other ways you

1089
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: can make money. And that's true.

1090
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 5: Game dice, Well, you can shoot dice. Shoot, you can

1091
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 5: shoot dice all you can shoot the motherfuckers. But but

1092
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 5: you can gamble, Yes we can, and you can be

1093
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 5: with the NFL playoffs in full swing, yes you can.

1094
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 5: Who are you putting your money on to be Super

1095
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 5: Bowl champs?

1096
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: And why the Dolphins know you ain't? I don't give

1097
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 3: a fuck. Let me tell you something, man, let me

1098
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 3: have the money. I'm that guy. Let me I'm that guy.

1099
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: Listen.

1100
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: Let me tell you I ain't got no money in

1101
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: my pocket right now. But let me tell you why

1102
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: even when we suck, that used to bet on the Dolphins.

1103
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 2: I know you're I'm that guy.

1104
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 3: I'm always gonna go with my team can remove the Dolphins.

1105
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: I'm always going to give our listeners something to bet

1106
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: on it. Right now, you're getting them losers?

1107
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 3: Okay, damn those they are a good team.

1108
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: I love the Dolphins. They're fun to watch, They're gonna win.

1109
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: You're put your money on them?

1110
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: Okay, Well how about I know No, I'm gonna I'm

1111
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: gonna put I'm gonna put my money on the South

1112
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: Dakota ship Packers.

1113
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: That's what we'll put on the South Data ship pocket

1114
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: do It's like that man with the Dolphins. On the Dolphins,

1115
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: you know, we know.

1116
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: What we're gonna do for the people at home. We're

1117
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: gonna get his receipt that he bet on the Dolphins

1118
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: to win the Super Bowl. I know. Post we're a

1119
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: poster seat like like Floyd and them. Do right, We're

1120
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: gonna post your receipt because we're gonna have receipts to this.

1121
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: I'm going with right now, you're giving with the Dolphins.

1122
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: Dolphins right now are plus sixteen hundred.

1123
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: Okay, what that means he will last year?

1124
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: I understand it. Oh listen, they have a chance they

1125
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: can score against anybody. Okay, but they have injuries in

1126
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: their defense.

1127
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 3: Right now, we get injuries, all right?

1128
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: So going to the playoffs. You you're so you're picks

1129
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: the Dolphins.

1130
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: Can I pick another one too?

1131
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: Sure? There's one vision for two. You can pick two.

1132
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: Who's the Super Bowl?

1133
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 3: Dolphins are the Ravens?

1134
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I like the.

1135
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm taking both home held on defense right now? Right

1136
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: now Lamar is playing great. You gotta understand Za Flowers bawling,

1137
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, likely the tight end who stepped in for

1138
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, Andrews is bawling, obj getting back to the

1139
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: form that he used to be. So they they're pretty

1140
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: impressive right now, you know what I'm saying.

1141
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: So I got it.

1142
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: I got to shout out them, and then they beat

1143
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: us like we stole something. They beat San Francisco like

1144
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: we stole, like they stole something. So they've not not

1145
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: all the top teams. So it's hard to go against

1146
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: Baltimore right now. But ship, I'm biased. I'm always gonna

1147
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: ride with the Dolphins, man, So just so you know,

1148
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm pick that ship.

1149
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: I'm actually cheering for the Dolphins myself. But with that

1150
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: being said, if you're putting my money, and I told

1151
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: you this last time we were out here, fade me

1152
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: if you want to make real money because I never

1153
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: picked right and my picks that I have here I'm

1154
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: not proud of because it's I'm not laying the money

1155
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: like I'm taking. I'm taking the forty nine ers who

1156
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 2: are favorite and the Ravens who are favorite.

1157
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: Like boring, Yeah, that's easy, right, Like I said, you

1158
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: ain't gonna win, ship. No, I ain't the Dolphins win.

1159
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 3: I'm getting banked up.

1160
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm coming over and borrowing something.

1161
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: No, I ain't got nothing for you. Damn yes, ship

1162
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: that ship. I'm retired. You know I'm retired.

1163
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 2: I've been retired for life. Man.

1164
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: See I just I just retired. But I was trying

1165
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: to figure out how to manage my coin.

1166
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: You got a lot of coin, the man. Hey, Now

1167
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: that we got the betting out the way, and you

1168
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: picked all your losers and I picked my winners, we're

1169
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: gonna go to our grab bag, right and and since

1170
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: it's a celebration of your Jersey retirement, we got a

1171
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: lot of quiet. But one is outside of it. And

1172
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: I think it's a great question.

1173
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: What's that?

1174
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: All right? The question is at MH golly, I can't

1175
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 2: even read. I apologize. Would the Ogs? Would you guys

1176
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: ever consider having KG and Paul Pierce on your show?

1177
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 2: The answer is absolutely yes.

1178
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, referees all that good ship of course, of course.

1179
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: Man, let me tell you something, Man, those robberies we had,

1180
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they can attest to that, we felt

1181
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: a way about each other. No, I did not like

1182
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: them motherfuckers, and they probably didn't like me, you know

1183
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So with that being said, I don't

1184
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: take back nothing I said. They probably ain't gonna take

1185
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: back nothing they said. But we owe this ship right now.

1186
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: So they want to cover this podcast and we could

1187
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: talk that ship. I'm down, and then we can go

1188
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: hoop afterwards.

1189
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't know about that part from me, Coke, but

1190
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: they made us better. We made them better for sure.

1191
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 2: For sure about this on the podcast before the reality situation,

1192
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: you go through that war with these guys year after year,

1193
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: you're all trying to get the championships. By the time

1194
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 2: you get the games three, four, and five, you don't

1195
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: like they don't like us.

1196
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: We don't And I guess what and if and if

1197
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: a motherfucker sends you home, you despise those motherfuckers into

1198
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: the next year. The person, the team you're thinking about

1199
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: is that team that sent you home all the way

1200
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: into the next So with that being said, man, they

1201
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: could come on the podcast. Man, I ain't listen, and

1202
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: that'd be a head of a podcast. So I'm smart now,

1203
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm a businessman, aight on, damn fool.

1204
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 2: That's right. And then from at Kendall eight five four.

1205
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: You brought this up before. What can you guys explain

1206
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: the Hunger Games. Explain the Hunger Games to the people

1207
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: at home. Man, Miami Heat had the Hunger Games.

1208
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: Games about the Hunger Games is five on five mano

1209
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: a mano, very little files, Infinny, very little files.

1210
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 3: If Finny, that's up to the coaches. You ain't calling

1211
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: your own files.

1212
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: The coach is gonna be calling the files and they

1213
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: probably gonna let a lot of calls go by. And

1214
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: you only win with defense. You win with stops. You

1215
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 1: don't win with getting a bucket, you know what I'm saying.

1216
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: So a lot of your motherfuckers that think scoring is winning,

1217
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: not when you come to Hunger Games, you know what

1218
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And do you lose, obviously you gotta fucking run.

1219
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: But you know, in between those lines, ain't no double teams,

1220
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: ain't no schemes. Guard your fucking yard. God, yeah, yard, God,

1221
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: your yard, and you would get exposed. You would get exposed.

1222
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: And if you get exposed, it's frowned upon. Just know

1223
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: that it's frowned upon. To be the week Link, to

1224
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: be the week Link.

1225
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 3: And Hunger Games, oh.

1226
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: Man, we appreciate y'all signing them questions. Anytime y'all have

1227
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: any questions, you always send them into the OG podcast.

1228
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: But you do. This is a celebration to you, my brother.

1229
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you. I can't I can't explain

1230
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: how happy I am for you to see where you've come.

1231
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: You know, just first day at the University of Florida,

1232
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 2: when you try to kill me, to dunk on me, Doug,

1233
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: I mean crazy, But that's to me man like. If

1234
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 2: you have if you you know as you as you've

1235
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: gotten in this league and you've grown this league, I

1236
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: think towards the end especially you always had it. Though

1237
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: you got any OG advice for some of these guys

1238
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: coming through anything that's been happening that you've seen that

1239
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: we can talk about. You know what, what are some

1240
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: of the things that you'd give these guys as you

1241
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: walk out of this out of this league now with

1242
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: your Jewsey retired, give.

1243
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: Them some Do not fucking live in mediocrity. You rather

1244
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: get up every day, hit the ground running, try your

1245
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: fucking hardest and fail every time. Before you live in mediocrity,

1246
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: your comfort zone will fucking kill you. Do not live

1247
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: in mediocrity. That's OG for the day. Man, do not

1248
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: live in fucking mediocrity. Get up every day, hit the

1249
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: fucking ground running. And if you got to lose a

1250
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: thousand times, then lose a thousand times, your comfort zone

1251
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: will fucking kill you.

1252
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: Damn. I might go lace them up.

1253
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: And that's just in life. That's just in fucking life. Man,

1254
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: don't live in mediocrity. In life, I might go lace

1255
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: them up.

1256
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 3: No, let me do all that. You just shoot killer.

1257
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: I get you the rock nother for real.

1258
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 2: Man. Appreciate y'all tuning back into the OG's podcast. It's

1259
00:48:58,840 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: a special one for me.

1260
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 3: Have guests.

1261
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: This is my favorite guest right here. I'm proud of you,

1262
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: my brother. It's a like we talked about all the stuff,

1263
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: the accomplishments, what you came from, where you're at. We

1264
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 2: saw the draft board when you when you were undrafted.

1265
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: There's only one of them is putting a jersey up

1266
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: in the rafters. You deserve it. I love you, my man.

1267
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: I appreciate you.

1268
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 2: Brother.

1269
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 3: Ebony and Ivory, Baby's salt pepper out.

1270
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 6: All those words just be mom exactly. But I would

1271
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 6: like to leave you with one on education and you

1272
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 6: don't have to be a product in your environment. They

1273
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 6: could take everything from you, but what you have up here,

1274
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 6: nobody can take that plate. So you need to always

1275
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 6: put your best foot, bullet and whatever to do. Helping

1276
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 6: someone hanging out the treas and that looking guys a

1277
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 6: lot doing, but you have to want to succeed. So,

1278
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 6: like I said, you don't have.

1279
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 3: To be a prodicting good environment.

1280
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 6: If you want to be an attorney, research and find

1281
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 6: out what to think. You have to be involved in

1282
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 6: your child. Don't just send them to school and think

1283
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 6: every basic ball is on the teachers and the inns

1284
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 6: because it doesn't see it right there. When they do

1285
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 6: their homework, come out to the school, let them know

1286
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 6: you are here for them. But she's gonna jack them

1287
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 6: up they don't do the right r