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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock bet We

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Speaker 1: are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is the

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Speaker 1: betting show that makes the squares sharper and makes the

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Speaker 1: wise guys pay attention very true. Today, I am Chadmullman.

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Speaker 1: I am joined by my co host, my companion Mike Cambadre,

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Speaker 1: my BFF professional better Simon Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Hello, So I'm in Chad. How are we doing? Brother man?

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Speaker 1: Oh Man? I feel like we're awesome because we're gonna

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Speaker 1: break down the day and I think we feel pretty

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Speaker 1: good about where we landed three and one on the day.

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Speaker 1: We got the Chiefs minus one and a half. Later

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Speaker 1: tonight that line is steaming up to three in some spots,

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Speaker 1: so we feel pretty good about the closing line value

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Speaker 1: we got there. Our picks from today the winners the

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Speaker 1: Panthers plus three and a half, the Steelers minus four

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Speaker 1: and a half, the Raiders minus four and a half.

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Speaker 1: They made it a little bit of a sweat, and

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Speaker 1: then we had the Colts minus six and a half,

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Speaker 1: which we lost. Our last ones out today where the

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Speaker 1: Saints plus three and a half and the Chargers minus

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Speaker 1: four and a half. So as always, we are exactly

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Speaker 1: where we would be no matter what decisions we had made,

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Speaker 1: because we would have replaced the Colts with the Saints

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Speaker 1: or the Chargers. We're going to get to all of

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Speaker 1: our early leans. We're going to get to an entire

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Speaker 1: review of all of our picks. We're going to get

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Speaker 1: to our live comments from the chat. One thing I

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Speaker 1: do want to say. The most remarkable stat I heard today, Simon,

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Speaker 1: are you ready?

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Speaker 1: The New York Jets had minus ten total passing yards

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Speaker 1: downs today. That is the lowest in I think twenty

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Speaker 1: seven years in the NFL. Justin Fields was sacked nine times.

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Speaker 1: He had nine completions in a game the Jets lost

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Speaker 1: thirteen to eleven. We didn't bet it. We talked all

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Speaker 1: as far as putting it in the contest. But they

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Speaker 1: are just thinking and finding new ways to look incompetent

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Speaker 1: and lose games. I don't know if you watched any

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Speaker 1: of that game, you know came on as we were

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Speaker 1: I don't even feel bad for him because it's so incompetent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet it, and I got really lucky. You

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Speaker 2: had the Denver money line right the round robin and uh,

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Speaker 2: never in a million year should they have won that

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Speaker 2: And you're right, like we we talked about that. It

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Speaker 2: that Jets team, and Denver did everything they could to

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Speaker 2: keep the Jets in that game. So yeah, that was

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Speaker 2: a game. I'm I'm glad it was in England. That's

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Speaker 2: the perfect game for yes, type that type of game.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, the the Jets get the cover. Should have

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Speaker 2: won in a million different ways. And I can't believe

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Speaker 2: they're what owns six now?

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Speaker 1: So win six Dallas at Carolina Carolina plus three and

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Speaker 1: a half. Look, kudos to you. On Tuesday, I was noncommittal.

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Speaker 1: You were all in. You wanted to make this, Simon says.

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Speaker 1: We've now cashed a couple of tickets on the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Good for us. Like, the game was kind of everything

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Speaker 1: This is what I loved about this game. Eight straight

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Speaker 2: Whether they have I think they showed the stat it's

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Speaker 2: like the most guys through five games on their offensive line.

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Speaker 1: It's astounding how the NFL does this right, like puts

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Speaker 2: Told you the deal with Bryce Yeng.

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Speaker 2: saw it like that, like shows nine to nothing first half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, just tough beat Perssette just played out of

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Speaker 2: we just didn't bounce our way in that game. So fortunate,

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Speaker 2: Like it's the one game that honestly going into when

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Speaker 1: Although one of the things that we thought the Colts,

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Speaker 1: that it's like him, Eric Dickerson, Jim Brown, Walter Payton, like,

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Speaker 1: Oh oh oh yeah, Clyde Humphy, Clyde Hilaire, right, yes,

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Speaker 2: As much shit as I like giving the Colts GM

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Speaker 1: All right, we got to talk about Tennessee at Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: This was Chad's choice. I made the call this morning

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith is really bad. Yeah, Which do you think

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Speaker 1: was the most incompetent play of Genios because he had

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're all terrible. My favorite thing was they

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Speaker 2: kept putting up his stats and it was like twenty

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Speaker 2: to three or seventeen to three, like you said, and

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Speaker 2: he had like forty six yards passing he did. Well, look,

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Speaker 2: that's just a wreck offense.

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Speaker 1: Right. When we talked about this game, my breakdown of

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Speaker 1: it was, just give it to Ashton Genty. Give it

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Speaker 1: to Ashton Genty. Just run the ball, like Tennessee is

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Speaker 1: not very good at stopping the run. Take it out

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Speaker 1: of Gino's hands. It really felt for a little while

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Speaker 1: like Chip Kelly had totally listened to this podcast and

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Speaker 1: was channeling everything that you and I had talked about

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, Gino Smith had not thrown a ball more

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Speaker 1: first down. The announcers all of a sudden, they're like,

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Speaker 1: don't make it. The decision for Gino Literally the next

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Speaker 1: Barton's arms like he's the only thing that would have

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Speaker 2: You know Raiders defense did step up. I think you

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Speaker 2: know a bunch of times they needed big time sacks

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Speaker 2: or big time plays. Overall, Yes, they gave a lot

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Speaker 2: of problems with cam Warden. That trend about those quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: You know that cam Wardon's going to join it of

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Speaker 2: having these insane comebacks as a rookie and then losing

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Speaker 2: by double digits. It held true. They lost by ten

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Speaker 2: in this game, So yeah, that was a unique spot

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Speaker 2: to back a Raiders team that I don't know about you,

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Speaker 2: but it feels like the Jacks from last week, like

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Speaker 2: we got away with one here totally. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I feel like back them at all, no matter

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Speaker 1: I don't ever want to bet the Raiders again. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to, Like there are

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Speaker 2: You know, get right. He's just not right yet, like

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Speaker 2: It's just I can't trust him.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders and the Jacks, I don't want to bet

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Speaker 1: You know, it's always been scary for us to fade

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Speaker 1: Raiders did try to give it away right, Like.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I thought for sure we were getting

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Speaker 1: I mean like that back door for anybody who wasn't

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Speaker 1: had it on. It was literally the corner TV game,

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Speaker 1: And of the game, it's fourth and fifteen from the

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Speaker 1: to give up this game? And then cam Wore fumbles

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just I don't know the analytics stuff, like

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Speaker 2: Go up right, go bat another three? Now you're up,

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Speaker 2: you know whatever. That would have been sixteen or thirteen

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Speaker 2: I mean chedd are really gonna get this back door here?

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Speaker 1: All right, look. One of the most controversial games that

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Speaker 1: we talked about this week was New England at New

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Speaker 1: Orleans at three and a half. We left it out

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Speaker 1: to save our marriage, frankly, and Drake May was great.

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Speaker 1: He was just great. And Vrabel coached him up. And

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Speaker 1: what did you see in that game? Did the Saints

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Speaker 1: feel like the team that you thought they were going

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Speaker 1: to be? Where the paths better than you expected? Give

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Speaker 1: me your take on that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, the Saints fell like the right side.

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Speaker 2: You needed Drake May to do something that I honestly

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Speaker 2: didn't think he was going to do, which is play

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Speaker 2: out of his mind. And once he did in that

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Speaker 2: first half, he didn't do shit the second half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Two huge throws in the second half, honestly, I'll give

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Speaker 2: him credit for that were like third and eleven and

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Speaker 2: a third and seven that were really big time throws.

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Speaker 2: But that first half he was making these plays that

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Speaker 2: were just like, dude, you there's there's no way this

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Speaker 2: kid can make these plays like out of the world,

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Speaker 2: moving in the pocket, just bombing a downfield. It would

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Speaker 2: either be perfectly underthrown or perfectly timed on the receiver's part,

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Speaker 2: where like the defenders would just miss. It could just

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Speaker 2: be the same. Secondary was just terrible at you know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff they were doing, but tons of

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Speaker 2: credit to Drake may Like that. That Bills game again,

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Speaker 2: that felt like a very will win. He did some

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Speaker 2: nice things with this Saints game. This was Drake may Like,

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Speaker 2: this is the type of game that a top five,

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Speaker 2: top ten quarterback wins. And again I don't think he

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Speaker 2: is that. So I was like, there's no way he's

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Speaker 2: gonna be to live up to the next game, and

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Speaker 2: he did. Like that first half. You know, I think

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Speaker 2: they got the two point of so they scored twenty

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Speaker 2: two points in the first half. Yeah, only scored three

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Speaker 2: in the second, and that was the kind of Verabel

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Speaker 2: half where it was like, Bendon, don't break defense, let

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Speaker 2: Rattler make a mistake, and he shockingly didn't. It was

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Speaker 2: a receiver that fumbled the ball and just sucked all

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Speaker 2: the momentum out of the Saints. So Saints as well.

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Speaker 2: I think they only scored three points. I think it

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Speaker 2: was in the fourth quarter or so. Yeah, two teams out. Again,

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Speaker 2: they're not that different. I know the public reception is

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Speaker 2: they're very different. But yeah, respect to Drake may Like,

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Speaker 2: that was to me the most impressive half I've seen

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Speaker 2: him play as a professional, like his moving in the

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Speaker 2: pocket when he ran the ball outside the pocket, all

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Speaker 2: of it very impressive. So yeah, good read by you.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you credit on a bunch of things. Chad,

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Speaker 2: you got that right. And Task. I love to task

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Speaker 2: so much as it way, Yeah, and you gave it

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Speaker 2: to me. Like early on, I was like, all right,

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Speaker 2: fucking what is Chat Now, I'll check it out, I guess,

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Speaker 2: And yeah it's great, so good, right, it's so good.

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Speaker 2: They got the accidents right. And like when I was

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Speaker 2: really young, the most kind of country thing I would

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Speaker 2: do is go to the quarries and swim in the quarries. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and they do it a lot on the show, like

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Speaker 2: all of it. Like yeah, so yeah, tons of props

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Speaker 2: to Chat in Indiana Hoosiers. It's just, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: it's all coming up, Chat dude.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday I watched that game and I feel like I

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Speaker 1: know what it's like for a second to root for

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Speaker 1: a team that knows what it's doing, that isn't winning miraculously,

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Speaker 1: that isn't surprising me when they win. I'm texting a

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Speaker 1: buddy of mine who uh went to ut and I've

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Speaker 1: been just making fun of them all season for how

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Speaker 1: we're a football school and you know it's sad for

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Speaker 1: ut but they'll make it back. And yesterday I texted h,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, big win yesterday. I totally remember those

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Speaker 1: days when we would have those big wins that we

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Speaker 1: weren't expected to win on how good it feels like

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Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you guys because Indiana their football power.

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Speaker 1: They're faster than they were last year, They're more talented, they.

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Speaker 2: Were no makes. That's your coach, dude. College football is

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Speaker 2: crazy what the coach does.

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Speaker 1: He is such a good coach.

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Speaker 2: He is looking at your recruits. It's insane what he

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Speaker 2: gets out of these kids.

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Speaker 1: But if he stays, that team is just going to

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Speaker 1: get better and better. Better people are going to want

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Speaker 1: to play for them. The nil see.

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Speaker 2: I got a client who is a penn State alumni

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Speaker 2: and he was just joking in our group text they're

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Speaker 2: just going to fly him an airplane with cash in it.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, my biggest fear right now is that Penny

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Speaker 1: State is going to go get Chris Signetti, who's got

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania roots, and they're going to go get Malik Washington

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Speaker 1: from Maryland and so basically, the only two college football

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Speaker 1: teams I care about are then going to be starting over.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Like yesterday on multi view, I had Maryland

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Speaker 1: and I had Indiana, and like they're both going to

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Speaker 1: be gone next year. But Drake May, he'll be Drake May.

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Speaker 1: Just to put a period on that. To your point

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Speaker 1: about how good he was. He was five for five

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Speaker 1: with two touchdowns to start the game, perfect passer rating

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Speaker 1: in the first half eleven to thirteen, four three touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: including a great throw to boot A for twenty nine

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Speaker 1: years in a touchdown with thirty one seconds left. You're right,

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Speaker 1: the Saints kind of kept it exciting. Vrabel all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden didn't seem like the guy who we always

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Speaker 1: kind of under cover in the second half because he

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Speaker 1: was just trying to bleed that clock and not let

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Speaker 1: his team give it back to the Saints.

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Speaker 2: But you don't want to turn over, and that's why

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Speaker 2: I think he coached the right where he was like

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Speaker 2: someone was gonna blink, Someone's going to make the dumb play,

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Speaker 2: and uh yeah, just a great punch out by the

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Speaker 2: defender for New England right in midfield and totally flipped

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Speaker 2: flipped the game because the momentum had just shifted. Like

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Speaker 2: you said, the New England wasn't doing anything. The moment

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Speaker 2: had to shift the Saints and we talked about coming

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Speaker 2: to the year of Vrabel is going to account for

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Speaker 2: two or three wins you might get to three or

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Speaker 2: four of us or like it feels like he already

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Speaker 2: has two wins this year that are verbel wins.

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Speaker 1: We set the line of two and a half and

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Speaker 1: we bet the over cow many wins he would be

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Speaker 1: responsible for Chargers at Miami minus four and a half.

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Speaker 1: Look good for us that we cut this one out right,

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Speaker 1: like we were clearly thinking more clearly when we took

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Speaker 1: this one out, even if we replaced it with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the second time that we got got

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Speaker 1: by the Chargers in the past couple of weeks. And

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Speaker 1: you nailed this because you said on the show, if

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Speaker 1: this game is under ten with half a quarter left,

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Speaker 1: our bet is dead, and dude, like the Chargers were

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Speaker 1: up twenty six thirteen and then basically just gave the

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Speaker 1: game away. What the actual freak, Why can't justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: close teams out. It's kind of it's getting ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Well, respect him because he did actually come back and

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Speaker 2: win the game, which I'm not gonna lie. I thought,

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Speaker 2: like what you thought? I thought they were dead, Like

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe they'd given up that lead. This is

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Speaker 2: definitely my biggest loss to day. Like I had a

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Speaker 2: bunch of adjusted lines bet two on this Chargers team

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Speaker 2: and obviously feeling pretty good. Like Chet said, they're up thirteen,

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Speaker 2: just fell apart defensively. Tough loss, and uh yeah, that

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Speaker 2: was brutal, Like you saw that number go from I

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Speaker 2: think it opened five to five and a half and

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Speaker 2: right before kick it was three to three and a

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Speaker 2: half in a lot of books. So some really smart

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Speaker 2: money came into that charge. Again. That Miami side that

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Speaker 2: they did, well, that was a good read by them.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was a the classic, you know, Miami hot in

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Speaker 2: the sun team is worn out in the second half,

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Speaker 2: and like you said, they they basically scored a touchdown

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Speaker 2: and it's instant three and out by Chargers and their

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Speaker 2: defense team to catch your breath back on the field,

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Speaker 2: right down the field another touchdown and uh yeah, big

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Speaker 2: big deal to come back and win that game for

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Speaker 2: the Chargers because like we just said, they're sliding right now.

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Speaker 2: So you lose that game to a bad Miami team,

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Speaker 2: it's just don't even think about the division. You're thinking,

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Speaker 2: just can you get lucky heading forward and get a

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Speaker 2: wild card? So huge, huge win for the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more on the Chargers and shame, shame, shame

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Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes. One more game Seattle at Jacksonville. Really,

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Speaker 1: I just want to point out that Trevor Lawrence is trash.

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Speaker 1: That's basically it. Like, I'm kind of sick to my

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Speaker 1: stomach that I never pulled the trigger on Seattle. I

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Speaker 1: was nervous about the flipping and flopping and flipping and flopping,

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Speaker 1: and then I passed because of all the injuries to

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Speaker 1: their secondary. But if I'm sick to my stomach about

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Liam cohane has to be like, can I

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Speaker 1: please get out of this contract? Do you agree with

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Speaker 1: me or disagree that Trevor Lawrence is at this point

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Speaker 1: an impediment for this Jacksonville Draguars team.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that thing because there's like there's also

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Speaker 2: moments where he'll make throws. We're just like this, this

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Speaker 2: guy has an insane amount of talent.

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Speaker 1: Insane talent, but I just don't think, like I know, he's.

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Speaker 2: Also head coach. I hate him. He drives me crazy.

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Speaker 2: But now they're stuck. Like it's just it's like Miami

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Speaker 2: with Tua. It's like, what are you going to do?

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Speaker 2: You didn't even get hurt or just have a toll

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Speaker 2: tank of a season, get a different quarterback just because

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Speaker 2: how many times kind of Baker Sam Donald's situation happen.

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Speaker 2: These things just don't happen. Usually turned into what Ginos

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Speaker 2: Smith has turned into. So they're in a tough spot

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Speaker 2: with Trevor. It's like, we see the potential. You're right,

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Speaker 2: it's he's hindering that team. That defense played well enough

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Speaker 2: to win today. Jackson Smith and Jigba in our lost tapes,

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Speaker 2: I gave him out to lead the league of thirty

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Speaker 2: five to one, and I never predicted that he would

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Speaker 2: actually be in the running to lead the league in receptions.

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Speaker 2: With Sam Donald, My god, is their chemistry out of

634
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: this world right now? They just I think you have

635
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Speaker 2: thirty points of fantasy football today. Just he's out of control.

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Speaker 2: How good he is, and he felt like he won

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Speaker 2: that game, like he was just the difference. You know,

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Speaker 2: Brian Tups junior try to match it. Had an insane

639
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Speaker 2: touchdown call back on a really bad penalty. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're just Seattle. This is an interesting team. Like all

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Speaker 2: the trends for them on the road, They're just a

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Speaker 2: different team on the road for some reason. They're just

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Speaker 2: a covering machine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to want to talk about Seattle. It's

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Speaker 1: an interesting line for them coming up next week. What

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Speaker 1: do you think is round with the Packers right now?

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00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: That offense, I thought they would destroy the Bengals. The

648
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: Bengals have been a terrible defense all year. The Packers

649
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: should have run the ball fifty times and gained eight

650
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: hundred yards and scored seventy two points against this Bengals

651
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: rush defense, and they can never pull away. They like

652
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: the Bengals stuck around. The Packers could not get any

653
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: offensive flow. They don't look very good.

654
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: Now I'm part of the problem. I think. I just

655
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: like a lot of people have overrated them based off

656
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: the one game. And it happens in football. We see

657
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: a team play potentially their best game of the season

658
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: Week one against a really talented team that we had

659
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: the higher expectations for, and yeah, they couldn't. Like they

660
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: feel like they played with their food in a lot

661
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: of ways with this game, Like they could have pulled

662
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 2: away and they could have made bigger plays, and they

663
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 2: just do enough to win. They're an interesting team. Like

664
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: even Golden him getting more comfortable that offense, I see

665
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: that being a huge lift to that offense. Like if

666
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: you can have a reason for those two safeties to

667
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 2: stay up high, that could change everything, because you see,

668
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: their best weapon is Josh Jacobs, like his the run

669
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: game and the way he runs so violently and so hard.

670
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: It feels like when he's going, that's that's when the

671
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: offense is going. And you know Jordan Love, when he

672
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: uses his legs, it looks right and he is good.

673
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: But like you said, they just they don't have that

674
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: killer instinct, that killer mentality, and they let teams hang

675
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: around and they easily could have lost that game, Like

676
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: there was an opening there for a split second, and

677
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: now Jordan Love stepped up made some big throws and

678
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: uh yeah, that's a team. I think all of us

679
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: just all overrated because of Week one, And I still

680
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: think they're really talented team. I just don't think they're

681
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: that highest level super Bowl favorite juggernaut team that we

682
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: all were like, oh my god, this defense with Parsons

683
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: is going to be incredible. And now we're after week six,

684
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: I think all of us are just like, Okay, they're

685
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: in mid tier defense. They're not the cream of the

686
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: crop like Seattle.

687
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: They're actually not even forcing the takeaways they did this year.

688
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: They're actually less explosive on defense and more vulnerable. They're

689
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: giving up more yards. They're looking like they don't really

690
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: know how to put teams away, like you said, offensively

691
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: or defensively. Another interesting team to watch because like you

692
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: want to bet him so bad, Like I know, we

693
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: both took a taste. You had the Packers outline minus six.

694
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: What a squeaky that turned out to be. But boy,

695
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: I was just hoping for a push there and then

696
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: lost all all hope at the end.

697
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 2: And Joe Flacco give them props Joe Flacco for coming

698
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: in flying commercial. Man look good, Man look good. So

699
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's gonna be interesting handicapping this Bengals

700
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: team going forward, because he was a difference in this game.

701
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: Like you saw Chase have confidence, you saw Higgins have

702
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 2: more confidence. That's that was something very noticeable in that game.

703
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, They're gonna be interesting going forward.

704
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: Since it's the Bengals. I'm surprised they even flew them.

705
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: I thought they'd just figure a horse and buggy or something.

706
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's do shame shame, shame, shame, shame on you.

707
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: Shame shame, shame on the Chargers defense. I'd love to

708
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: blame their old line, I really would, which gave Justin

709
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: Herbert no no help at the end of the game.

710
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: But in the fourth quarter, the Chargers were up twenty

711
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: six to thirteen. Their defense then allowed a nine play

712
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: sixty nine yard drive and a thirteen play eighty two

713
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: yard drive to take the lead. In those two drives,

714
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: the Dolphins only had three third downs, so we're talking

715
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: about twenty two plays. All of them were first or

716
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: second down except for three. All of those three downs,

717
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: all three of them, we're third and short. The defense

718
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: could not come close to getting off the field, Like,

719
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: was it all of a sudden. They couldn't scheme was it?

720
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: Like you said, it's the end of the game, it's

721
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: the heat. I don't know. Give me your take, because

722
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: this team keeps finding ways to give away opportunities.

723
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: I just I mean, it is injuries, but I just

724
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: think it's it's the Miami Sun. Like you get down there,

725
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: it's late in the game, and they just didn't have

726
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 2: their legs. Like I said, you give up that long

727
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 2: touchdown drive and then you're right back out there after

728
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: three plays. It just the Chargers going through and out

729
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: there killed him. So I'm with you on that one.

730
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: My shame is pretty much the same thing. My shame

731
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: is this Colts defense, same shame we're set through for

732
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 2: I believe three hundred yards or three hundred and twenty

733
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: yards against them. The craziest thing was him on third downs.

734
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: He was nine or fourteen on third downs against this

735
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: Colts defense. And it's like, okay, if it was third

736
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: and two and third and four's short field short, you know,

737
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: short yardage, it happens. But these were like third and tens,

738
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: thirty and fifteens, thirty and eighteens that they were giving

739
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: up wide open. Just really lazy's own defense. Just that

740
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: makes sense. Like Marvion Harris went out very early in

741
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: that game. They don't want to play man and man

742
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: with receivers after a team's number one's out. Just a

743
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: bizarre game planned by this Colts team. And again they're

744
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: so lucky, they're offensive so talent that you know, Daniel

745
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: Jones did have a great day, but like you said,

746
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor averaging almost six yards per carry, he's just

747
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: an absolute game changer for this Colts team. So yeah,

748
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: for me, the shame it's got to be that Colts

749
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 2: defense just a total no show for us today.

750
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was actually going to go with the Colts

751
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: defense and then decided I was just angrier at the

752
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Chargers because we had a good chance. Like we never

753
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: really had a chance to cover with the Colts, and

754
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: we did have a chance to cover.

755
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: Because their defense. So like you can put up thirty one,

756
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: you're telling me that defense can't hold for set to

757
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: twenty points. They're giving up twenty seven points. It's crazy,

758
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: Oh totally.

759
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: But like that was back and forth the whole time,

760
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: and like they would come back to get to that

761
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: thirty one, whereas the Chargers there were eight minutes left

762
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: in the game, six minutes left in the game when

763
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: they were up twenty six to thirteen, and they still

764
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: found a way to have to win it in the

765
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: final seconds. That is shameful, Jesse Minterter, that is shameful.

766
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: All right, I know who your hero of the week is.

767
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you mine, but there's one game

768
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: we got to talk about that you were on a

769
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: week that is going to be your hero of the week.

770
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: Mine is Rico Dowdell. Thirty carries, one hundred and eighty

771
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: three yards. Here's what's interesting. I looked at next Gen Stats.

772
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: I looked at the rush chart in next Gen Stats,

773
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: which is really really cool. All but four of his

774
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: carries were up the middle. If you look at the chart,

775
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: drought with my hands here, get them really high. Like

776
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: everything was between the hash marks, you know, between the

777
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: tackles basically except for like four runs that were really outlied.

778
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 1: It's like a big you. Here's what's interesting about that. Also,

779
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: I mentioned before four reception fifty six yards team high.

780
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 1: The week before he had two hundred and six yards

781
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: on twenty three carries. All but two of his carries

782
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 1: last week went to the right side. So how cool

783
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: is that that back to back weeks he goes from

784
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: everything to the right side to everything up the middle.

785
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: That to me is why we were betting on the

786
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: Panthers this week. Dave Canalis is a really good coach

787
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: and He's scheming up really good game plans for his

788
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: offensive line to take advantage of weaknesses. Last week Miami,

789
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 1: this week the Cowboys. We know they're not very good defenses,

790
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: but a lot of times coaches don't take advantage of that,

791
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: and he did. I think that's awesome that may Rico

792
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: dow Doll the Panther's offensive line, and Dave canallis my

793
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: hero of the week.

794
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Baker. Yeah. I just look at

795
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: that line all week. I wish I had the ball

796
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: to just make us put in the contest, but it

797
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: was minus three and a half, and I said, if

798
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: it was minus two and a half would have been

799
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: a no brainer. But I just was. I didn't get

800
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: the line and the hook scared me off. Honestly, where

801
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: it's like the books must know something here they didn't.

802
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: That was a horrible spot for this four nine ers team.

803
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: And in another world, they sure Fred Warner plays that

804
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: full game to cover it. But you know, a mecha

805
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: Buca goes out. Yeah, it doesn't matter, Baker.

806
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: They've lost another offensive lineman.

807
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they're on their third right guard or

808
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: third right tackle or something crazy like that. We talked

809
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 2: about it. Like that play the anticitis of Baker. Third

810
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: and fifteen. He avoids a sack, you know, makes a move,

811
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 2: avoids another tackler, then fights through one more tackler and

812
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: reaches out with the ball to pick up the first down.

813
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: Next play, absolute bomb up the seam too. A guy

814
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: named I think his name is Tez, like ye a

815
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: total no name, and guy makes an unreal catch. He's

816
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: doing like backflips and shit in the back of the

817
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: end zone and Baker's just yelling the dude's face. He's

818
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: going absolutely mental after it, and it's like people want

819
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: to keep down it. They can keep trying to fade it.

820
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: This was a huge pro spot the pros. Basically the

821
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: book is out where top bowles defense cannot beat Shannan's offense,

822
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: like you go through any time they never played against

823
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: each other. Chan doesn't matter who the quarterback. Kiss has

824
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: dominated this matchup and it was looking that way once again,

825
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: like they were moving the ball with mac Jones. Mac

826
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: Jones though, making throws like insane throws. But you know

827
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: you saw it the eventually he was gonna it was

828
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: gonna catch up to him, right, He's just he's a gunslinger.

829
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: He's gonna put the balls in crazy places. And yeah,

830
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: the defense stepped up obviously made the plays, but at

831
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's just Baker incredible. I

832
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: think they one by eleven. Yeah, crazy, crazy, Like this

833
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: is a team that, like we just said, a mecha

834
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: book goes out for the rest of the game, Like

835
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: they just have these huge injuries right now, This this

836
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 2: Bucks team, they keep winning. So yeah, it's I don't

837
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: know if we'll bet on next week, but I honestly try.

838
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: I can't get enough of betting this guy. It's it's

839
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: the best.

840
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: It's it's unreal. And that player're talking about the back

841
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: to backs that third and fourteen that he converted, he

842
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: had two guys on his back in the offensive backfield.

843
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: He escapes, he totally like deeks a guy and then

844
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: he dives to get the first down, stretches his arm.

845
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: He's stretching his arm as he's falling, like he knows

846
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: exactly He's like looking down the line. He knows exactly

847
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: where the first down is. Guess the first down. That

848
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: next play that was improv like the dude the receiver

849
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: broke off his his route and Baker just Loft at one.

850
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: It was one of those perfect NFL films, balls like

851
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: you'll hear the sound and then it just drops down

852
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: and the guy catches the back end of it. Glorious.

853
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: They are a mature, physically powerful squad with a special

854
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: confidence that allows them to reach for heroism instead of

855
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 3: merely trying to avoid mistakes.

856
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: Baker's impossible not to love, impossible not to love true,

857
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: like his MVP odds are gonna have to be the

858
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: shortest when everything reopens in the morning. Like he's just

859
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: flat balin, Baker balin the freaking best. It's gonna be

860
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: a shame. It's gonna be a shame when next week

861
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: we got to talk about betting against Baker Mayfield. Those

862
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: were our shame, shame shames, and our heroes of the week.

863
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: Let's recapital fast before we get the comments and Leans

864
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: Saints plus three and a half. That was Simon says,

865
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: Chad loves the Raiders minus four, Brass the Chargers minus

866
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: four rock in a hard place. It's tonight, Chiefs minus

867
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: two and a half, shar versus square. I had Carolina

868
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: plus three and a half. You have the Chiefs minus two.

869
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: Favorite parlay Raiders cashed, Steelers cashed, Colts cashed, Chargers cashed,

870
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: Pack minus six cashed, who lost? Simon, we had one

871
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: team lose Eagles, Philadelphia Eagles.

872
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: But I thought that was only if you were able

873
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: to make it. What was the other one we had

874
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: in there? I think that was it was the Raiders, No,

875
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: because we said we weren't going to use it. I

876
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: said it we gave about six because I said not

877
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: enough people would hear the Eagles.

878
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: Right, that was the sixth. So it was the Pack

879
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: minus six was the other one?

880
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, okay.

881
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: Underdog parlay was Saints lost, Panthers one Detroit that don't

882
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: know yet, Seahawks who were plus one and a half

883
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: at the time they won Bears. Tomorrow Night survivor was

884
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: Packers barely got by. Okay, A lot of questions, obviously,

885
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: we got to talk about uh next week. Mike Vrabel,

886
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: I think he's a five and a half point favorite, No.

887
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: Six and a half point favorite on the road at

888
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: New England, I mean at Tennessee rematch game. I mean,

889
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: what do we do here? What's our plan? How do

890
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: how like, you know, how do we not bet Mike Vrabel?

891
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: How do we not bet Tennessee. This is a question

892
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: from Jags by the way, j A g Z.

893
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: That's fair, honestly, if excuse to tell the number. It's

894
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: just like, don't we have to bet New England. Just

895
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: there's no reason for us to trust Tennessee.

896
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: There's none. They're not good enough.

897
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: That's fair. Like again, this is just gonna be sick

898
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: to the stomach because guess the number is inflated, but

899
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: is it? This is the tennis team is so poor,

900
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: the coach and their offense looks so lost unless they

901
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: run out of two minute drolls. So that's fair if

902
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 2: you want to grab that line early.

903
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is a I just want to get this

904
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: out of the way because we just talked about it.

905
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is a five and a half point underdog

906
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: at Detroit next week. It's a Monday night game, part

907
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: of the Monday Night doubleheader.

908
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 2: I don't have to deal with it because I remember,

909
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: I think it might have been two years ago. Baker

910
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: was like a nine and a half point dog against

911
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: his Detroit team in the regular season, and he went

912
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: in there and he beat him, and it was like incredible.

913
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: That was when he had gywin and Mike Evans as

914
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: the receivers, not these no name guys, and you know,

915
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: it's how long can this keep going? So I don't

916
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: know what to do. I kind of want to take Detroit,

917
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: and I assume that they get smoked tonight and they

918
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: take it all out on this Bucks team, so I

919
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: don't have to deal with it. My early incline is

920
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 2: to take Detroit. That's a good Detroit number.

921
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: By the way, Alison Norris was the one who was

922
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: asking about Baker MVP, like, of course his odds will

923
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: you have to expect who else at this point could

924
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: be leading or have the shortest odds for MVP.

925
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I blew that one. Like there. He was eleven

926
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 2: to one when we came on Sunday, and I put

927
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: it in my notes last week to say something totally

928
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: blanked on it. And by the time we did Tuesday show,

929
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: he's already down to eight to one. Yeah, apparently that

930
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: was still good enough, because, like you said, I think

931
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: he's gonna be the favorite now. The only person I

932
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: could see still being the guy back up there would

933
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: be Josh Allen if he wins obviously tomorrow or if

934
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: Golf wins tonight, I could see him if he has

935
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: a big game Tonay against the Chiefs being up top there.

936
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. All right, that's really interesting Cleveland. As

937
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: you said, it's now at two and a half, two

938
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: and a half point favorites over Miami.

939
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: This is just a hard rock I should say that

940
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: for everyone.

941
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: I see it at two elsewhere. Yeah, yeah, but definitely

942
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: moving in that direction. What do we think of Jacksonville

943
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: as a three point home underdog against the Los Angeles Rams.

944
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you know what to think. It's the

945
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: professional side the Jags, But I don't know.

946
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: Light to day. We're gonna walk away from all this.

947
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: Jacksonville never bet him again?

948
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: Right? We should?

949
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: Here is we're gonna bet. We're gonna bet the Jacks.

950
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be patient though, maybe maybe give us the hook.

951
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: Maybe we get that three and a half. But I

952
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: do not think the Rams are three points better by

953
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: the way.

954
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: That game.

955
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: That's it.

956
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: That game is overseas. That is not a game in Jacksonville.

957
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: Back in England again, another England game. How many of

958
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: these we got? NFL?

959
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, listen, we're expanding. It's a global it's

960
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: a global business.

961
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: Well, Jags, they dominate England. So that's even more reason

962
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: to like the Jacks.

963
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: They're basically the London j Jaguars. Yeah, who else are

964
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: we looking at right now?

965
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 2: I mean we haven't talked much about Philly, the ship

966
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 2: show that is Philly right now. Minnesota is plus two

967
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 2: and a half Carson Wentz. I mean this, this would

968
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: be rock bottom for a lot of Eagles fans. Of

969
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: course it wins smokes us, but that's an intriguing number honestly,

970
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: just because Quinny and Mitchell might be out, Carter might

971
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: be out. Those are easily the two best defenders on

972
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: the Eagles defense. Yea, and without them in the secondary

973
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: against Addison Jefferson, that could be a real problem for

974
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,479
Speaker 2: that Eagles team. Uh, Chargers, I know we talked about

975
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: staying away from it. It's just another pro line. They're

976
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,959
Speaker 2: minus one against this Colts team at home. Once again,

977
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 2: be patient, but I know everyone I'm sick to it.

978
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: I don't want to I didn't want to have to

979
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: bet the Chargers, but this is this is a Chargers line, honestly,

980
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: So that's another one that jumps out where I'm hoping

981
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: I could be patient. Public comes into the Colts and

982
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: I get Chargers out like a nice dog number. Yeah, interesting,

983
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: and that one popped out and last one that I

984
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 2: really just jumped out to me just because it's interesting.

985
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 2: That's where they opened it. The Giants were plus seven

986
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: and a half against Denver. Yeah, so that's Denver playing

987
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 2: international coming home to a home game. Well that's nice,

988
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 2: but they're playing against arrested Giants team that I think

989
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: a mobile quarterback you can't see with fields today, but

990
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 2: I think that type of style can give a type

991
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 2: of defense like Denver real problems. So interesting. The books

992
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: are still giving you the hook at seven and a

993
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: half a year at hard Rock, so that's just a

994
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 2: number I'll grab early in case professional money does comes in.

995
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: The Giants have bet this under the seven, so you

996
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: saw it today. The Denver closed all that books at

997
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: six and a half today, so yeah, you know it's

998
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 2: interesting that it books open that to get Giants money

999
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 2: because they know how much Denver money will come in

1000
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: by the public.

1001
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: We're getting a lot of questions right now, and we

1002
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: talked about this right before we came on air. The

1003
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: line on the Bears game has moved from Washington minus

1004
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: four and a half to Washington minus five and a half.

1005
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: We didn't get a chance to really dig in on

1006
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: why that's happening. It's been happening as we've been on

1007
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: the air. Really, I'm not understanding the move. I don't

1008
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: know of any injuries that have been reported in the

1009
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: last hour or so. In fact, the Bears were going

1010
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: into the game really healthy, and we know that Diebo

1011
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: might be out. We know Terry McLaurin is out. What

1012
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: do you make of the move?

1013
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: It asked to be injured and there's something we're not

1014
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: I know that you guys now announced so much players

1015
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: that are out. So yeah, like we said, I couldn't

1016
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: believe when we logged on here, we're looking at early

1017
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: lines and the number was up to five and a half.

1018
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: So I'm just thankful we to put in a contest

1019
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: because I would be hurting right now.

1020
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: Really really thankful we didn't put it in the contest

1021
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: because I'm really glad we have the chiefs. Oh, they're

1022
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: saying the Bears left tackle is ruled out, but I

1023
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: don't that doesn't actually make sense. That can't be right,

1024
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: because the Bears announced that left tackle Braxton Jones was

1025
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: not going to be starting, and it was going to

1026
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: be a guy who had been getting a lot of

1027
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: snaps and have been playing on the offensive line, and

1028
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 1: it was this dude who Brax and Jones barely beat

1029
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: out in training camp, So that can't be the reason

1030
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: unless all of a sudden that guy is out too.

1031
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: But then Braxton Jones is playing who's been the starting

1032
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: left tackle, So I'm not sure that makes any sense.

1033
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: So we're not really getting good until it, you know,

1034
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: this time of night on Sunday. As to why that

1035
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: line is moving yet, we.

1036
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: Would say in all week though, that clearly the professional

1037
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: side is the commander's side, so just clearly be careful.

1038
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: It's clearly a professional side, because it had all week

1039
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: to move from four and a half with all the

1040
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: news about Washington's health and all the news about the

1041
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: Bears who are coming back, and instead has moved in

1042
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: the opposite direction. So something's going on. Finally, just to

1043
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: remind people, we're three and one heading into Sunday night.

1044
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: We got Kansas City minus one and a half tonight.

1045
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: The line is currently two and a half. We've been

1046
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: liking it all week at one and a half, at two,

1047
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: even at two and a half, and.

1048
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 2: If you didn't bet it. If Detroit drives the field

1049
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: here in scores, take the Chiefs live, you'll get a

1050
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: great number exactly.

1051
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: We won with the Raiders minus four and a half.

1052
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: We won with who else to the Steelers minus four

1053
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: and a half and the Panthers plus three and a half.

1054
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: We lost with the Colts minus six and a half.

1055
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,239
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1056
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,680
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1057
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