WEBVTT - Johntá Austin 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:03.079 R and B Money. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.120 Honey, we are. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:10.120 Take Valoti. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:20.440 We are the authorities on R and B ladies and Gentlemen's. 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.200 My name is Tank, I'm Jay Valentine. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:29.000 This it's the R and B Money Podcast authority on 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:34.160 all things R and B. Exquisite, exquisite. The level has 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:35.680 just gone regal. 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:38.199 Uh. 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:44.360 There's R and B Royalty in the building and Royal 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.080 Royalty in the building. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:56.080 One of the greatest songwriters of our generation ever walked 0:00:56.120 --> 0:01:00.000 this ever walk this planet. You guys, ladies and gentlemen, 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.240 and mister John t oh. 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:09.280 Wow, yeah, really yeah, thank you. Yeah, he's here. We 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:09.760 believe it. 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:11.319 No ship. 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.520 You are than brother, Thank you you. I wore my 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:14.959 suit for you. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:15.160 Guys. 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:19.560 Man, you were doing this when I was trying. I 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:20.080 was trying. 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.760 I was I saw you you know when when uh, 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.600 I remember, I remember when one of your your first 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.520 big checks. You got one of your first big checks. 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:34.160 This is probably ninety eight maybe was it ninety eight? Yeah, 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:39.640 and you you got the Jaguar, the jack Jaguar four door. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.880 Did everybody wants No, it was the Bens. No the 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:45.119 Jaguar bubble Eye. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:49.400 No, Jazzy had the bubble Lie. I had the five fifty, 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:53.240 the five fifty. Why did I think you had the No, 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.680 I had the five fifty and I had dubs in 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:56.680 the ninety ninety eight. 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.200 Right, yeah, I remember your car was way better than 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:03.919 anything i'd ever Thank you. I get and I'm just watching. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:08.920 I was just like, yeah, thank you too. If you 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:11.280 keep writing these songs, man, you too can be like John. 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:16.200 I want to be like John. Now I'm washing legs, 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:18.240 then be on the fries. 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.480 It's like the nigga I was. I was just moping 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.240 you had your own McDonald's. 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:36.280 Absolutely early, yeah, early. 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:39.120 I mean, I think, you know, we gotta go back there. 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:40.799 We got to go back to the beginning, even even 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:44.440 before the Sweet Ladies and all these things. Let's go 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:45.800 back to the beginning. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.600 Where are you from, bro, I'm from Atlanta. You from 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:50.240 from the southwest. 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:53.040 Atlanta, from the Swats. I am from the Swats. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.240 Is that what it's called. They call it the Swats? 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.120 The Swats? Swats? 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:01.240 Absolutely well, let's let's go back to the Swats. Okay, 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:05.079 let's do when somebody said, what up? What John Tey 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.799 brought up? Ben boy boy got something special, something on them. 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.480 Yeah. Yeah, I started out in church. I think just 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:12.519 probably like most. 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:16.960 Of us did, singing, and you know, I was doing 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:20.280 television stuff like commercials and singing on television. 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.760 No, just like acting. Oh shit, okay, you kids incorporated, right, 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:24.600 Kids Beat? 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.000 I had Kids Beat and real News for kids on 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:31.000 Turner Broadcasting on TBS, seeing inn and you know that's 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:32.880 when Ted Turner was still the head of the company 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:37.880 and I was thirteen. Yeah, so I did it from 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:39.720 like thirteen to seventeen. 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.680 How'd you get in that? It was? So I initially 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:44.480 landed it on open audition. 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:46.600 My mom just took me, like she saw it, and 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:48.920 you know, I'd already had a couple of commercials under 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:50.960 my belt and she took me, you know, to do that. 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:55.360 And I got the audition and you know, and landed 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.840 the gig. Yeah, and so I was on yeh Saturday 0:03:57.880 --> 0:03:59.960 mornings like so it started with like these little news 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.960 blurbs and you know, like you Ryan Cameron always makes 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:05.360 fun of me when he sees me. He's like, you know, 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.120 this is John Jay Austin for Kids Be and so 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.440 because that was like the sign off and then you 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.000 were buying out yep. 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:15.480 Right early and so from there. 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.000 But I always had a passion for music, and I 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.560 was interviewing all these people on the show, you know, 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:25.760 sports people, entertainment people, and then I ended up being 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.920 able to go on our Senior Hall and he asked me, 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.279 you know what if I wanted to do anything else 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:32.720 in addition to what I was doing. I said I 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.719 wanted to sing, and so he had me sing with 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.599 the band and then he kept me around for the 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.839 whole show, like I come back from commercial, I'm singing 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:42.880 with the band and he let me hang out. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.599 Dave Chappelle was on that night, which is a you know, 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:51.080 you are pouring champagne. Yeah, you know. Yeah, Man's. 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:56.200 That he did this before us to not just the 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.919 writing thing, but this as well, Like, yeah, I was 0:04:58.920 --> 0:04:59.560 interviewing people. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.640 I'm like, this is kind of what we're doing. Yeah, 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.760 he did this, I was doing that. I was doing that. 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:09.040 It was you know, like Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan's, all 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:09.680 of these people. 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.680 You interviewed all of them. Yes, people absolutely came through 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:17.479 your show. Absolutely absolutely. We got to find the archives man. Yeah. 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.000 So if you see my Instagram, every year on Michael 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.479 Jackson's birthday, I post a picture of me and him 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.880 and it's this, you know, I'm like thirteen. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:30.720 These I wore glasses back then, had a silk shirt 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:36.000 on coming. He was doing the silk shirts then. Yeah, 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:37.600 you know that's crazy. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.159 Yeah, and from and from there on our Senio Tease Williams, 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:46.479 who was absolutely Tease Williams saw it and she called 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.520 up to Turner and was like, you know who is 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.560 like got ine And you know, went up to New 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:58.520 York and met Kenny Ortisse who was at RCA Records 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.679 that was back, and that he had just signed s WV. 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.240 Not just signed, he signed. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:04.520 Him and they had done well, like so they had 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:08.839 done great, and so he was looking to sign you know, 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.479 someone else and so he you know, they flew me 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:15.200 up and you know, Tease had made that introduction and 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.680 I got my first record deal with RCA Records. I 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.440 was thirteen, you were thirteen. That was before I was. 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.719 That was and that preceded the writing. I was just 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.760 you know, all about the singing. It was, you know, 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.479 and New York back in those days, you know, to 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.719 see it, you know, walk through the office. At the time, 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:35.719 Rob Walker, who managed the Neptunes, was an assistant to 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:39.080 this cat named Dino, who was another an R. Steve 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.760 Stout was up there working for Loud under Steve Rifkins. 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:46.480 Yeah. Yeah, just the all of these people back in 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:47.080 those times. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.960 Yeah, that's incredible, bro, Yeah, that's incredible. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.120 So you signed first to RCA or you signed to 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:52.680 which one? 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:54.960 I signed the RCA Yeah, OK, yeah, because it was 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.600 RCIVE at that time. No, it was just yeah, everything 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:00.600 was separate back then. That was before for it kind 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:06.760 of you know exactly exactly. So I signed and you 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:11.560 know was recording. That was back when, you know, that's 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.840 that's how I hooked up with you know, the like 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:19.160 Joe and the Neptunes, like Kenny Kenny Ortiz had founded 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.440 Neptunes earlier. This was back like you know, Chad had 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.920 to leave the sessions because he was still in school, 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.560 like he was going back to college and flying out, 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.560 and you know that was back when. 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.080 You know, so do they work on your first album? 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:33.239 They worked on the first album. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.400 I still have like the demo of like a couple 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.480 of the songs and with like with like Joe. 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.920 Singing the demos but to Neptunes. 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:45.800 Yeah that Pharrell had written for me at Dallas, Austin 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.600 at Dark and they and they were here and this 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:52.120 is back when I mean they had them staying in 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.360 like this holiday inn that was like around it. It 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.720 was like a kick door hotel. This is this, So 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.480 this is early Neptune. That's how I'm giving you the 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.760 picture of out early Neptunes. 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.120 This is and you know, and then you know they 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.240 go on there And how did that process go though? 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.280 I mean, because it's like, you know, you as an 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:12.400 artist at thirteen, like, yeah, you know, you probably have 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.400 some expectations too. I'm getting ready to I'm getting ready 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:17.360 to go there, you know, I'm ready to be him. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.400 I'm getting ready, man, I am. 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:24.080 I'm thinking like I'm gonna be you know huge, I'm 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:25.160 about to do this album. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:25.960 It's about to drop. 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:30.360 Because at the same time, you know, a childhood friend 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:34.680 that I had met around twelve usher, you know, was 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.360 already out doing He had called me a macout. So 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.920 it's like okay, and then he's you know, he's about 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.280 to drop. Can you get with it? It's like, oh man, 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.520 I'm getting you know, I'm next. I'm right behind my guy. 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.000 And then I went through a voice change and then 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:54.920 the administration that brought me in the acts new administration. 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.480 Came in, like y'all know how y'all. Y'all know how 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:58.640 that goes. Y'all know how I knew it? 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:04.400 All right, kids, we got another kid we want to sign, 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.400 and that kid was Tyres. That was so that's how, 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:09.600 that's how we get. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:15.320 To Okay, let's get there. Let's get there, because now 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:20.720 you are faced with the music business absolutely right, where like, hey, 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:24.600 we got this new kid, and we want your song 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:25.440 for this new kid. 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:30.720 Yeah, and it wasn't my so sweet lady. Troy Taylor 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.720 when he was with Charles Farah when they were the characters, 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.840 they also worked on my album as well, and so 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:42.840 and Carl Thomas was writing, and so you know, we 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:44.400 had had a bunch of songs. So Troy is the 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.960 one who really kind of pushed me into like, yo, 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.800 you ever thought about writing? And I was like, you know, 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:52.000 I mean, you know, he was like, you should try. 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.280 I hadn't written any song yet, and really, you know, 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:58.640 I kind of played around with it, but for yourself, no, no, 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:00.640 like I hadn't you know, all of the songs I 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:01.880 recorded other people. 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:08.640 Wrote and the problem yeah right right, I mean didn't 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.400 right for himself. Shit, you know that's where it starts. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.320 Yeah, And so you know, Troy pushed me, and then 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.080 we like landed a couple of things on Jason Weaver 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.400 on seven O two, and so then I get, you 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.840 get deal after I get out of my deal, you know, 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.280 because that was now my way of just staying around 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.160 the business, like you said, the music business, and I 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.040 just wanted to be around it, you know, biding my 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.400 time until I could maybe get another shot at being 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.079 an artist. And so I'm writing and it's you know, 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:41.000 it's I'm getting some placements here and there, and you know, 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:45.360 then I get a publishing deal, you know, Valerie Patten 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.400 signs me to Chrysalis. I think I'm like fifteen at 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.880 the time, Like my mom had to sign the contract. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.440 Everything exactly exactly. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:58.920 So, uh but then fast forward, so I'm home and 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.680 you know, I get a call from Troy and he's like, 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.600 you know, listen, I got an opportunity for you, and 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:06.800 if you're smart, you'll do it. 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.199 And he was like, you know, if you're emotional, you 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:10.640 won't do it. 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:15.840 And I was like, okay, but you don't try setting 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:16.280 up y'all. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.000 Don't try you know what I mean, Troy setting it up. 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.480 And so he's like, uh, you know, he's like, you know, 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.720 the you know, the record because we had the hook 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.920 for Sweet Lady. He's like, you're a sweet Lady and 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.280 I was like yeah yeah. He was like, you know, 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.400 I need some verses for I need you to, you know, 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.199 finish the verses and. 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.359 We're gonna do it. They wanted for tyres. 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:47.840 And I'm like, I don't want to help that nigga. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:49.000 He took my spot. 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:53.400 Yeah right, you know, but then after you go, after 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:57.480 you get that out for about ten minutes, realize that, 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:03.040 you know, he he in Tyreese's mind, this is my spot. 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.400 Like I'm trying to I'm trying to be an artist. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.800 I'm trying to be successful, just like you had. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:08.280 Nothing to do. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:12.800 I don't know, you bro, Like yeah right, but you 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.480 know I got a deal. I'm popping, you know what 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.560 I mean, from the commercials to the deal. And so 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.640 I was like, okay, I'm gonna write the verses. I 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:26.160 wrote the verses. And that was back when you know, 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:27.160 this is before text. 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.640 You couldn't you know, send songs. 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:35.000 Nothing, nothing over the phone, right, you couldn't record nothing 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:42.240 on your phone. So, you know, Troy called me and 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.160 like my answer machine, pick up and let it play 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:47.640 and so I could hear it on the answer machine, 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.160 and then I wrote the verses and I called back 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.120 and left the melody of the verses on his answering 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.880 machine with the lyrics like that's how we did songs 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:58.520 over them, That's how we did songs over the. 0:12:58.440 --> 0:12:59.760 Phone back then. Yeah, that's great. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.440 So Sweet Lady was written, you know, the verses, the 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:07.080 hook was done, but it was done on an answer absolutely, 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:12.200 and that's your first legitimate hit record, absolutely, absolutely. So 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.000 before that, let's let rewind a little bit. You do 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:18.760 your first publish, your fifteen What was that deal? 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.679 Like? Do you remember that deal? Do you remember like 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.760 the terms of that deal with the type of bridge 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.320 you got absolute fifteen? I remember. 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.040 So I gotten that deal based on my first commercial 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.800 release was Mona Lisa's Can't be wasting my time going 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:37.880 to the Wayne's Brother's soundtrack with the Lost Boys. So 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:39.959 I signed my first publishing deal. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:44.520 Was it was for eighty K. 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:48.600 Okay, fifteen eighty K, all right, how much you got 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:49.200 it up front? 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:54.800 Eighty I got on Lady K eighty K up front. 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:59.720 I got small set of twenty five. Yeah I didn't. 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.600 I made it though, I'm gonna have to sell some 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.680 more dope. 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:09.280 Yeah, so you know I got that up front. It 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:14.000 was three years, and you know, you have to meet 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.959 your song delivery commitment to get the exactly you know 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:18.360 what I mean. 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:19.320 So it was. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.400 Four holy written songs, which if you write fifty percents, 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:28.440 that's eight songs. People never people never do that math, right, 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.440 because it's in It's twelve exactly, it's in the contract, 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:32.560 holy written song. 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.600 Like it's only five songs. I'm about to kill them, like, 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:36.360 no you're not. 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.400 No, you're not. You need ten. 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:44.520 You need fifteen released released, not just. 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:50.000 Release. See we're giving them label on a major label, right. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:57.080 Yeah, So I went into suspension my first I did. 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.680 I didn't mean the commitment, right, I didn't need the 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:01.000 commit Yeah, you know she. 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.000 Guy over here who was actually putting out on his 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:06.240 own album too, and you. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.280 Gotta love this, you know, I love it now. It's amazing. 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:11.800 But my best clause in the contract was I got 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.120 the reversion clause. So everything came back to me in 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:14.680 ten years. 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:19.320 Yeah, you're only fifteen anyway, So it's ten years after, 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.640 you know, because I read up with them a few times, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.240 you know, Valerie and I stayed in business for a 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:28.200 while over there at Chrysalis, and but yeah, everything came 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:28.680 back to me. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.480 I don't know, I guess about twenty eighteen. Yeah, so 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:39.440 all of the yeah stuff stuff happens when you're not 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:44.520 emotional exactly exactly. No, I learned that early. I had 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.880 to relearn it, of course, over and over and over again. 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.920 So sweet Lady drops, Sweet Lady drops. 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.800 I'm newly hanging out with Tyres at that time. Yeah, 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.280 because RCA had signed a group called Elements of Life 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.440 that was on the same production company I was signed to. 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.480 You know what I'm saying, What was my guy that 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:07.840 was over there, Kevin. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:14.800 Oh gosh, gosh, Kevin, because that's who dropped me, Kevin, 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:19.600 Kevin Evans, Kevin Kevin Evans, and Anthony oh gosh, who 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.400 was right up under him. I can't remember Anthony Morgan. 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:28.160 Kevin Kevin Evans when he signed EO Element's Life. Then 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.480 he was like I went and sang and performed for him. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.760 Was like, we want you to next. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:34.520 Him. 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.840 Yeah, I mean not to fast forward. But then then 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.040 when Kevin got pushed out, I was I got pushed 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:46.840 out too. So anyway, you know, it slice two times. 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:48.480 So this drops. 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:52.480 It was a meeting Tyreees for the first time. I'm like, 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.920 this dude is different. That's when you had the thing 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:01.600 right here. And he was mad at because everybody thought 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:02.640 he was Tyson Beckford. 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:05.879 Yes he was. 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.879 He was angry, like we were. We was walking the 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:10.879 streets in New York and oh my god, Tyson man, 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:11.800 no fucking Tyson. 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:17.879 I was like, it's not a bad remind me to 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:19.000 tell you. Let's go. 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.840 We're at a New Year's party, uh for the you know, 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.400 the the Christmas part at the Mayor of Atlanta throws. 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:27.879 This was in during Cassimes. 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:29.800 You know. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:35.040 Era and a friend of my wife's, my wife had 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:38.399 a bachelor party in Vegas and they went to go 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:42.080 see Tyson Beckford, you know, when he was doing the Chippendale. 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:45.280 She goes up. 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.080 My wife's goes up to Tyres and it was like, also, 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.880 good to see you. We we loved the show last week. 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:52.400 You were amazing. 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.680 And Tyres is like looking at her, like, you know, 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.159 she was like in Vegas, we wed to show in 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.680 Vegas and you know in this she goes off. He 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.800 leans over to me. He's like, she thinks I'm Tyson 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:11.280 Beckford after all, this was old Casinia. Yeah, not too 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:16.040 long ago, twenty sixteen. Maybe after all these movies still 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:22.719 haunting him, Tyson back is still haunting you. Just obabe. 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:25.720 You not? 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:32.760 Yeah, so so so sweet lady drops it's a smash 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.880 because I can tell by the way ty is walking. 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:40.320 He's walking he has a smash He's talking smashy. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:43.760 what changes? 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.439 I know everything changes, but what but what what can 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.359 you pick out at that moment when it didn't get 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.240 you out of suspensions. 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.000 That by that time I had, Yes, I had had 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.000 a couple of other songs come out, and yeah, so 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:57.320 I was out of suspension. 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:00.680 You know. 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.159 I think by that time I hooked up with Noontime. 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:09.280 You know, we were you know, still like getting our 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:10.560 collaborations together. 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:15.000 So it was like a we you know, it felt good. 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:16.800 It was like a validation cause it's like, man, like 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:20.040 now I'm turning on the radio all the time, and 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.760 then you watch the song crack the top ten, you know, 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.080 R and B and it's like, you know, I think 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.080 it made it to like number eight and I'm seven 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:29.159 number eight something. 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.160 Like that, and it's like, wow, this is a real 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.199 bona fide you know record, and. 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.760 You know, I think from there it just it motivated 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.200 me more to want to, you know, put more songs 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:45.960 on the radio. Then it kind of became about you know, 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.880 you go from I want to write, so I want 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:52.560 to get placements, then so I want to get placements. 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.200 To now I want to get singles. Yea. 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.119 Now it's like, you know, it goes from I want 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.120 to get singles to now I want to get first 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:00.920 singles the second you know what I mean, like I 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.440 want to be you know, and then from there it's 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.720 like I want us to be the go to guys, 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:08.840 Like now you come to us, Yeah, Because. 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.840 It's like before you actually have a hit record. 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.000 Even sometimes when you do have that first hit record 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:17.280 one or two, you're a guy that people will listen 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.080 and accept records for. But there becomes a point in 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:24.760 time when it's like, okay, let's book the session. Yes, right, 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:27.920 there's a process. That's a real process. If John Tay 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:29.280 in with X, Y and Z. 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:32.160 Because Johntay's record is going. 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:35.240 To be he's going to deliver, it's going to deliver 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:37.800 something exactly. And when did that change? When did that 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:38.399 happen for you? 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:39.680 Ah? Man? 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:45.600 I think that happened, man, it was because it was 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:49.760 post Sweet Lady. I think we started to get those opportunities. 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.760 It was it was two records when be Cox and 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:58.440 I did Get Gone for Ideal, Hm, I love thank you. 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:05.920 That was, you know, I think Lee, yeah alone, pack 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:09.600 your bags, Yes, get the hell on. Yeah, because I 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:14.400 don't want you no, no, Yeah, that was the record 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:14.760 was great. 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.560 I was inspired by a real person. I bet it was. 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:21.920 It absolutely was, absolutely was before you could block people. 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:24.680 Yes, this was you know. 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:28.520 She she also inspired I Miss You for Lee. 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:31.920 But you know, back in the day when she used 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:33.680 to try to bring that up, I would be quicker, 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:34.879 you know, I inspired I miss you. 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:37.400 I would also be like, you also inspired Get Gone. 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:45.600 So there's that feel because I married Min I'm not 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:49.040 even gonna do it. Just just let's keep going. 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:49.560 Yeah. 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:53.199 So so it was Get Gone that because that record 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:58.320 showed like these guys can do records on new artists 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.520 and get a new artist happen, you know what I mean. 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:04.320 So that's one thing, you know, And then for me 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:06.239 it was like the second time because we had ty 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:07.520 rees and now we have Ideal. 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:15.720 But then yeah, be Cox did Get Gone. Yeah, the 0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:17.560 guy one of the guys from ideal is his cousin 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:18.159 or something? Right? 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:20.800 Yeah? 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:26.000 Yeah, yeah, who produced I don't want to, Donnie and 0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:27.040 Jazzy Fair producer. 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:27.639 I don't want to. 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.240 And then when I don't want to came then it 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:33.800 was like, Okay, these guys are for real. They're doing 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:38.480 real hits because you like, I don't want to win 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:42.680 number two on the charts with no video, and you know, 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:45.960 and we all from the era of like how important 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:49.040 videos were and you had to have a video, you know, 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.760 and you know, number two it was on the Next 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:58.800 Friday soundtrack before it was on Romeo Must Die Socks. 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:00.840 It was on two soundtracks. It was on Next Friday. 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:05.879 First you was getting paid? Yeah, yeah, ship, what did 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:06.200 you buy? 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:11.240 Man? What's the first? What's the first? Crazy John Ta? 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:16.560 It might have been that Bens. I mean it might 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:18.960 have been that Ben. It was not on the streets, No, 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.480 it was yeah, it was brand new. Yeah, I think 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:24.480 that was it. Yeah, I have to pay the overage 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:26.679 to be the first. No, no, no, man. 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:30.880 I found a guy in Athens, Georgia who got one 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:34.040 for me, and I drove up to Athens and and 0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:35.680 you know, I drove it back. 0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:40.520 I was killing that noontime parking lot. Same way you'll 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:44.119 travel for a woman, you'll travel for a car. I 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:46.520 flew to LA to pick up a car once you 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.399 should and shipped it back. But I like, you know, 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:51.240 I need to see it. Yeah, fly out there. 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:52.480 Yeah. Yeah. 0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:54.359 When your money get different. 0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:57.200 Even rich for a long time money and your money 0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.439 get different, you know you have particular taste. 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:06.600 Ye, I need I need to Yeah, I need all 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:22.440 new cars don't smell the sad. I wanted to see 0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:27.520 how because I had just gotten the Black card, and so. 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.240 I wanted to heavy one, the heavy one, right, the 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:34.399 one that made Now now a lot of cards are 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:37.159 made out of that, but like the black was the first. 0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:39.680 One, and I just I was just like I wanted 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:41.520 to see if I can do the whole thing. And 0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:43.960 I handed them and they swipe it, and I'm like, wow, 0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:50.720 that's cool that the whole car. That was a whole 0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.960 I need to know this. Oh, were you with a 0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:57.880 Black card? And for people that don't understand, he's talking 0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:05.200 about the American Express Vorian right, smell that Centurion. 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:10.000 Yeah, and it's the unlimited you can you can go 0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.760 purchase a jet. Yeah, they gonna want that jet, like 0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:15.840 they want to jet. Yeah, well, but you go purchase one. 0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.680 By the time I got this, I was like twenty five. 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:25.680 Oh wow, small, small set twenty five, small, twenty five. 0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:31.680 This is you know, we Belong Together is out. This 0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:33.920 is all of it everything. I mean he wrote we 0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:38.640 Belong Together at twenty four Yeah what yeah, around Yeah, 0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:39.720 I think we were around that time. 0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:44.320 Yeah, yeah, at that time it was yeah know I 0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:47.200 was yeah know, he was in it. I was in 0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:50.080 it for the good and for the bad, for the 0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:51.120 good and for the bad. 0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.600 My question, as we go through these progressions with you know, 0:25:54.880 --> 0:26:01.840 so many records, what are you feeling as what is 0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:06.120 the artist John T. Austin feeling like, because there has 0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:09.199 to be moments all of this where you're like. 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:13.000 These are my children could be this could be broke 0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:15.560 my career as an artists. Yeah, maybe I should. 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:19.399 Absolutely. I said it a hundred times. I said it 0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:23.000 a hundred times. I you know, I'm conflicted about, you know, 0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:28.359 giving records away. You know, I'm conflicted about it. 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:29.399 Was almost like. 0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.760 You ever see the movie Happy Gilmour, Yes, you know, 0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:35.760 how like he started doing really well at golf, but 0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.440 he kept telling people he was a hockey player. Like 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:40.240 you know what I mean, I'm like, I'm an artist 0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.240 and you know, but I'm like, I want to hold 0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:48.960 on to something. And my manager, Chris Hicks, you know, 0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:51.960 he would always have to talk me out, he would, 0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:55.200 you know, but he would say, listen, the only reason 0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:58.520 you hang on to records is if you are not 0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:02.919 confident that you can make another one. But I believe 0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:05.760 you can make another one. So let's give that we 0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:09.280 have an opportunity to place these records and put these 0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:12.600 records on people who are coming out. You'll get your shot. 0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:15.720 I don't know when it's gonna happen, but yes, So, 0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:19.159 like it's it is frustrating. It was frustrating because like 0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.000 even though I'm making all of these hits, I'm like, 0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:26.119 you know, man, I you know I can do this, 0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:27.720 Like you know, I'm. 0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.320 Singing the demos. They're you know, they're doing my demo 0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:35.200 note for note no for you know, right, So it's 0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:39.639 like you're hearing yourself right the radio. Absolutely absolutely a 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:40.880 version of yourself. Yeah. 0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:41.480 Yeah. 0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:45.639 So it's you know, like to the point where like 0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:47.240 when we were talking about when can't help but Wait 0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:50.679 came out for Trey songs, like getting calls like. 0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.879 You wrote that, didn't you. I can tell like it's. 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:56.920 Your even what you're talking about, because I didn't know. Yeah, 0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:58.480 we were just talking about it. I was like, I'm 0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.960 replaying the record of my mind and I just hear 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:04.639 you you have vibrato. I hear the whole thing. I 0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:08.760 was like, that's for damn sure, John T. Austin record. 0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:12.600 John T. Austin could have diad yes, yeah, could have 0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:13.600 put out easily. 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:15.320 Yeah. 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:17.200 And it's so it becomes. 0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:21.200 Right right, and you're happy for that, Like you're not 0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.520 like I'm I'm not happy that anybody else got to hit. 0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:26.879 It's just kind of like your own personal war that 0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:30.320 you're fighting. It's like, man, what do I have to do? 0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.320 You know, like I'm because I'm celebrating their success and 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.920 not jealous of it. But man, I would like to 0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:38.680 be an artist as as well. 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:39.760 You know. 0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:44.120 But you know, we kept writing, what's the record that 0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:48.440 you didn't want to give away? Is there one that 0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:50.040 you just like, fuck. 0:28:51.600 --> 0:29:00.320 Man, I'm trying to what's a Then there's one that 0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.000 stands out. I'm just trying to think if that's the 0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:05.920 one I want to go with. I think it might 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:08.880 have been. No, it wasn't can't help but wait because 0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:13.480 we did that specifically for Trey with Stargate. 0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:19.000 I think I don't want to. 0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:24.200 Like at the time because it wasn't for Aaliyah. Okay, 0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.680 you know we did it and then Chris heard it. 0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:31.760 Chris Hicks heard it and was like, oh, this is 0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:34.200 this is getting played you know for Aleah. 0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.520 I was there too. Yeah, yeah, you were in there 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.600 on a Sony Studios in New York. 0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:42.520 Yeah. 0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:46.280 We was like that make a cold man, oh man, 0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.120 than you fucking rits. You need to write like that. 0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.360 You see how you writing like that will copy your 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:52.880 doubles like view that. 0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:57.920 I need to repeat some stuff, right, okay, and then 0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:00.280 you would you would do the telephone, and so you 0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:00.960 need the telephone. 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:05.800 Telephone, man, the telephone like all that stuff. Phone kind 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:09.600 of was like an early auto tune thing. I think 0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:16.000 I was the because when you get excited about the telephone, 0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:22.880 but the telephone, the telephone, the telephone on the telephone. Right, 0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:24.560 I got that from you. 0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:28.760 So I'm telling to interview y'all real real quick, real quick, 0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:35.600 come over, come over. I got I got both, I 0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:39.840 got both of you guys in the room, and for 0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.960 a long time, people did not know that that was 0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:45.320 Tank's voice. 0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:50.320 People didn't know that. And because I want to were 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.640 you even credited on there? 0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.320 I didn't get credited on there till late That's what 0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:58.240 I'm saying, Like, so people people found out right and 0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.800 then they I think people themselves just credited me and 0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.680 then ended up as but it's not on the project. 0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:07.160 As a fan right now, I need I need the backstory. 0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:09.800 I have to have the backstory. So we give you 0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:11.719 my perspective because this perspective more important. 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:12.800 But I heard him telling it. 0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:16.760 I love it because this is more important. We're at 0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:20.280 another studio recording, ye me. 0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:23.480 I think Jerry's with me. I don't know if Cliff 0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:23.840 is with me. 0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:26.680 You down at Chunk King right, because we were at 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:30.719 Son of you guys worrying probably probably, and he was like, uh, 0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.840 he was like uh, he's like a leave recording recording 0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:34.360 around the corner. 0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:36.120 I was like, oh, shoot, let's go over there, you 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:37.600 know what I'm saying, check on her and see what's 0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:40.000 going on. And so, you know, we walking the streets 0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.600 in New York, run into the LEA session. As soon 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:47.680 as we walk in, She's like, oh, Tank can do it. 0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:50.720 And then Johntay's like, can do it? 0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:56.040 You have no music out at this point. No, okay, 0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:01.520 but we knew he was a sang right, but my 0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:02.680 background singer anymore? 0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.920 Are you still a back kind for genuine? I'm fighting 0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.960 to be you still want to do it? I'm damn right. 0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:10.720 I mean to this day you still I still want 0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:11.440 to sing backgrounds? 0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:12.160 Right? 0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:16.120 I want to sing background And Johnny was like getting 0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:17.880 the booth, I was like, this is wow. I just 0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.480 want to say here right, yeah. 0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.400 Getting the booth and John Tay of course, John Tay sings. 0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:26.840 He gives me the notes, just think me, give me, 0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:27.280 give me the. 0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:31.800 And sing that. I think we spent about like five 0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:33.920 ten minutes or that sing that like that's a stack 0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:36.920 head because he then he put like a mid no, 0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:39.200 it's mad crazy. 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:40.640 I just come out the booth and I'm like, that's 0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.320 it cool and we're just talking and listen of it. 0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:45.240 Liz is talking to me about my style and what 0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:46.960 I need to do and you need to dress like 0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:48.640 and you know you're like a one man Josy and 0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:52.400 you better and john Day's like, yeah, you're do the thing. 0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:52.840 Yeah. 0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:54.920 But Johnsy was like, you know when we listen to 0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:58.760 the record like I'm in there taking notes because I 0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:02.200 had already heard this record. I'd already heard the record. 0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:04.400 And then when she's when he put her on it, 0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.320 I was just like this, Ninka is cold. 0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:09.680 Because I was in line, you know what I'm saying. 0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:11.760 It was him and it was static. 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:16.280 So for my label, you know, even at Blackground, you 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:20.080 know what I'm saying, their go to was we need 0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:23.520 static or we need John Tea. So I was in line, 0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:27.080 just kind of waiting my turn to be sick, waiting 0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:30.080 for my again, I would say, for my writing to 0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:33.120 get on that level because I wasn't there yet, you 0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:34.720 know what I'm saying. So these were the guys that 0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:36.800 I was just kind of like watching, kind of in 0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:38.360 awe of, you know what I'm saying. So when they 0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:39.640 put me in the studio on that on that, I 0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:42.600 didn't think nothing of it. But then you know, as 0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.720 as it looks in twenty twenty three, wow, thank you. 0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:52.320 Absolutely, thank you, thank you. Yeah. Now okay, now give 0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:55.320 us the before he gets to the studio. Okay, Yeah, 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.240 So we were in there she so Alia had cut 0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:02.440 most of the record, and you know, hearing this part, 0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:04.440 it's like okay, like you know, it's got to be 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.320 some somebody that asked, because she was like, I think 0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:12.120 somebody else should do this. And so we was like okay, because. 0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.239 It was you know, the story of come On. So 0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.040 she's calling you know, her dude, her dude, and so 0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.480 it's like, okay, she just touched story wise right too. 0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:25.040 Yeah, so yeah, yeah, so. 0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:27.400 We thought like okay, at this point of the story, 0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:32.400 it's you know, him participating now, like you know what 0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:32.759 I mean. 0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.000 And so it was like a call out back to her, okay. 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:39.040 And so it's like, you know, and who is saying 0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:40.640 this ship like who you know? 0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.120 And we're going through like you know, I think Usher 0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:46.960 might have come up. You know, we're throwing people out, 0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:49.040 and then Tank walks in. 0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:54.160 And we're like like Tank can do it. That's crazy, 0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:56.000 And we said I think we said g I think 0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.759 we did say genuine. So it was like, but you 0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:03.719 never walked check on your friend. I mean like, yeah, 0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:05.600 it's crazy. 0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:10.280 But that's like such, that's the yeah, that's the juice 0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.719 of the song, right, Like that's the you know that part, 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:14.279 Like that's the sing along part. 0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.759 That's the you know, that's the flavor and then what 0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.000 two years ago, three years ago, you get another check 0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:21.279 for it? 0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:26.640 Because Kaylannie, yeah yeah, can I absolutely which is k 0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:28.520 Lonnie that you didn't call Chief to come and do 0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:29.320 his part again? 0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:34.600 He might have done it for you. Yeah, come on 0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:40.080 stage sometimes sold up shows, stole out show, yes, yeah no, 0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:45.080 because that's and that leads me to my next question. 0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.640 How does it feel to be sampled at this younger 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:52.560 age that you are, like, you're not seventy eighty years 0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:53.759 old when you got to clear the. 0:35:53.760 --> 0:36:00.800 Sam being like, oh, who want to like what he's singing? 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:05.080 I don't like what he's saying on that my wholesome 0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:09.640 song into a whole song. Yeah, you know you're still 0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:10.399 a young dude. 0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:15.960 Man, they're sampling your music, Kaylane Bryson Tiller, like they're 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:17.800 sampling your records already. 0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:23.359 Absolutely, No, it's a it's a great feeling. I mean 0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:25.680 it makes me, you know, it like makes you feel 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.600 sing because it's like, okay, the younger generation. You know, 0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:31.279 it's funny that you say, like the seventy year old guy, right, 0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:32.240 because you like you don't. 0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.480 Want to be that. I had to call a couple 0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.560 of them stuff. So that's why. Yeah, exactly. 0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:41.799 I'm sorry they feel like, you know, but I don't 0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.160 want to be the person that's like, oh, you know, 0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:47.480 you know music should be this way. 0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:50.759 Yeah, you know, you got to have more respect than 0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:51.520 blah blah blah. 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.560 Because when I meet young writers, young artist, young producers, 0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:57.160 what I've learned. 0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:00.680 Is they do respect it. They know it. They follow 0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.239 it like they have nothing but respect and the admiration. 0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:07.480 That's why they're sampling like they they're paying you a compliment, 0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.719 you know to me, so like and a check. 0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.440 So when it comes through, like you know, I'm like, 0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:16.799 it's I always listen for the creativity of it, Like, wow, 0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:20.719 have you ever not clear something I'm trying to see? 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.680 I don't think so, yeah, I don't think so you 0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.320 know what, No, I think there might have been like 0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:31.080 an ed M version of I can't remember of something 0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:32.240 I might not have cleared. 0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:39.759 I love EDM, but it wasn't for whatever reason. Yeah. 0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:43.200 Yeah, it felt like you know, something that I'm hearing 0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:47.920 in just like a one way bar in Amsterdam, you know, 0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:51.839 like off that, but not but not in the Flyway, 0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.200 not the fly Amsterdam that we're talking. 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:58.360 Nothing that I love going to sample John say as records. 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:04.960 Make sure it's fly, you know, make sure its music 0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:05.440 is flying. 0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:10.239 Absolutely, absolutely, I want to talk about I want to 0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:13.200 talk about your experience with Mariah Carey. 0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:17.920 Okay, because that's you know, before we get to Maracay. 0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:20.319 I do have to let y'all know for I don't 0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:23.320 want to You know, Aliyah didn't want to cut that. No, 0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.040 I did not know that. She didn't want to cut 0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:27.680 that one. She wasn't sold and I don't want to. 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.120 She wanted to cut I Miss You. That was what 0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:31.200 got us to New York. 0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.719 And you know, so how do you sell because now 0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.880 the writers need to see this. How do you sell 0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:43.440 a major superstar? How do you sell them the record 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.279 that they don't want but you know that they need. 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:49.520 Right, So you know, I can't take credit for that. 0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:52.759 That was all Chris Hicks who made that. He was like, 0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:57.000 I tell you what, let's make a deal. You can 0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.880 cut I Miss You, but you have to cut this 0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:00.640 one as well. 0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:05.880 That's the deal. And she was like okay, And then 0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:07.920 when she got on it, it was Chris has always 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:15.560 been good with conversations. Yea, I know, yeah, absolutely is 0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:26.279 from the area. You know what this feels feels, right, 0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.560 I like the way you're talking to me. Yeah, so 0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:31.879 so you know, so that's how that's how we got 0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:35.440 her on it. Wow, that was it. So Mariah Carey, Yes, 0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:37.439 what is that call? 0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:37.719 Like? 0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:44.560 So the call comes from j D. Jay's like, you know, 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:46.880 come to uh, you know, come to studio tonight. 0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:51.719 At this point, you know, obviously JD has such a 0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:54.160 long history with her, you know, starting would always be 0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.960 my baby, going back to that, right and and you know, 0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:00.239 now be Cox has done you know, songs with her, 0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.080 so they're like a nucleus. 0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:05.960 And but I was excited. 0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:07.720 So he's like, you know, Mariah's gonna be here tonight, 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:11.960 you know, come down, and you know, she gets there 0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:15.720 and Mariah doesn't show up till like midnight. That's her session. 0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.719 Session starts at midnight. She likes to She's a night out, 0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:23.799 absolutely likes to likes to write and work you know late. 0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:25.759 So you know, at the time, I didn't I have 0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:26.800 I've had to learn that. 0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:29.200 The first day I showed up, I was there at 0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:34.560 like six p m. Just six hours. Yeah, what she had. 0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:38.239 I mean, I'm like, you know, let me know, now, 0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:39.680 let me know when she comes in, you know, let me. 0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:46.239 And this is levels right, because I'm sure at this 0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.719 point you have massive records by this point, yeah, you 0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:50.800 don't have a Mariah. 0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.520 We don't have them or this is still Mariah. So 0:40:53.680 --> 0:41:00.279 what is interesting is that this is Mariah, I mean 0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:04.279 off of Glitter movie in this. 0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:09.040 And so there were a couple of people around me 0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:13.040 who were like, why are you gonna spend your time 0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:17.480 on this? Like and they thought the ship itself, thought 0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:18.320 the ship itself. 0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:23.200 I have a fast rule about legends, like legends stay legends, 0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.680 you know what I mean. It's like that right, you've 0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:30.479 earned that, You've earned that, and you're always one hit away. 0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:32.680 I don't care if you ain't. 0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:37.000 Had a hit in ten years if you call you 0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:39.440 know what I mean. That's how I feel about legends. 0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:41.840 And at that point, you know, this is once we 0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:44.400 dy walking through the door, like what do you mean? 0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:49.600 We don't write and we're gonna look into these cameras. 0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:50.960 That's what it should be. 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:55.120 They've earned it, absolutely, and if you are a hit maker, 0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:58.000 go give them that hit worker one hundred percent one 0:41:58.080 --> 0:41:58.680 hundred percent. 0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:03.279 So Mariah gets there and I'm just sitting in the 0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:05.920 corner just quiet her and Jamaine and Brian are catching 0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:09.080 up and you fly on the wall, just fly on 0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:12.800 the wall, just you know, just sitting because again this 0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:18.760 is so, this is after Aliyah, this is after Chris Brown, 0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:22.480 this is after you know what I mean, this is yeah. 0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:26.680 This is only popping, this is yo yo yeah. 0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:27.080 Yeah. 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:30.480 So you know, after about thirty minutes we're sitting there. 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:36.040 The first song that Jamaine played so can I get 0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:38.439 your number? And they already had that him and Brian 0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.439 already had that hook, and so he was like okay. 0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:42.480 She was like, oh, I want to start with this, 0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:47.880 like do some verses, and so then you know, she turns, 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:55.440 She's like, and who are you? Starts that way she 0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.200 was like and she was like who are you? She 0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:00.359 was like I'm guessing. She's like are you a part 0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:03.280 of this? And I was like I look at Jamaine 0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:06.840 and Jamaine is like yeah, yeah, he writes with us. 0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:11.359 And she was like, okay, all right, let's rite. Let's 0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:14.839 start like it wasn't no what have you done? Yeah, 0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.120 you know, just like okay, I just need to know 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:21.200 who you were, and now we're good, and then you know, 0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:25.200 we hit it off from there and Mariah is like 0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:30.360 a brilliant songwriter in her own right, so, you know, 0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.640 being able to collaborate with someone like so the experience 0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:38.640 of someone who can write for themselves, like she doesn't 0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:43.120 really need anyone to write, you know, but throwing out ideas, 0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:45.160 the way that she hears things, the way that she 0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.680 rhymes words and melodies. 0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:52.040 And then you're also hearing her sing, and so it's 0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:53.280 like one of those moments. 0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:55.880 The first time I had a moment like that, we 0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:57.680 go back to Tony Braxton, but it was like the 0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:00.239 second time when I first worked with Tony and Tony 0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:02.719 walks into booth and you like, hear that voice come 0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:05.000 over the mic and you're like, I said, this is 0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:08.440 Tony Brax and the same thing so before Mariah even won, 0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:11.560 Like just her sitting there with the pad writing and 0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:14.600 she's humming, and I'm like trying not to like smile, 0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:18.080 but I'm like, damn, this is Mariah Carried. 0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:21.239 I think I had that moment when we worked on 0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:26.520 ron Isley. Yeah, yeah, man, I was like, he hit 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:32.680 one of them. This is a dream come true. He's 0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:36.319 really in the booth singing one of my records. When 0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.239 did you have that moment any artist? For you? 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:43.800 I'm like, I'm like the fan you are, you know, 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:52.239 so everybody when they get into yeah, because it's like, 0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:57.200 I don't know, man, I don't It's an unexplainable feeling. 0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.479 It's just like to have these type of people singing 0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:01.239 rect just to have. 0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:05.919 The voice, like you've heard this voice everywhere, You've heard 0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:10.160 this voice on massive records. You're saying this voice, and 0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:13.440 now this voice in a sense belongs to you. 0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:17.440 You're a part of this voice. Now you're sharing in this. 0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:23.160 That's a great one. Yeah, that's a great one. That's Gladys. 0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:24.640 That was my first time where I was just like, 0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:29.719 no way, Like, first of all, she's singing in one 0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:34.520 take and that's literally one top to bottom. 0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:34.839 Yes. 0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.960 She studied it for about ten minutes, ten fifteen minutes, 0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:42.400 played it over and over so and she said I'm ready, yes, yes, 0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:44.160 will say it all, set it all up. She went 0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:50.759 top two bottom, no auto tune stuff, you know, just 0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:57.040 some slight verb raw top to bottom. What else would 0:45:57.080 --> 0:45:57.360 you like? 0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:00.360 That's how they I looked at it then there I 0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:02.160 was like, you don't even know what to say, Like 0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:06.279 maybe we should tell her to do it again. I 0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:09.400 feel like I did something here, right, I'm gonna just 0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:13.000 tell her. You're not gonna call me back. I'm gonna 0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:13.640 tell her do it again? 0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:19.520 Great, great, Yes, let's just let's get one more, one more, like, 0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:22.799 let's just get one more and and and you see 0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:26.080 where we end up. See what we gotta She did 0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:26.680 one more. 0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:32.920 Top to bottom, flawless. That's crazy. It come out, come on, out, 0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:38.120 come on, thank you, coming by God, bless you. Yes, 0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:41.440 that's crazy. Do you right? Shake it off? In that 0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:45.959 first session, so we did. Can I get your number? 0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:49.000 The first night? Second night was shake it off? Okay, 0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:56.080 second night was shaking. So we had the mic on 0:46:56.440 --> 0:47:01.520 the demo. It was me, Mariah and Mariah's assistant. Whose 0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:06.680 idea was that? Was Mariah because that's the classic ship, 0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:10.279 that's Mariah. I got to give her. I gotta give her. 0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:16.400 I've never written a song with any of those old 0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:21.160 like everybody in never written a song with that. 0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:30.960 I was like, yeah, man, that's all that's classic. M 0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:34.040 see all day, all day. So can't I get your numbers? 0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:34.799 Shake it off? 0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:42.400 It's like that. Yeah, and then and then we were 0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:46.640 done like that. Those were all in those sessions. And 0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:49.800 you know, so l A. 0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.359 Reid, you know who was ahead of death jam at 0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:55.200 the time, he was like, listen, like, I feel like 0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:58.600 we got something. I feel like, you know, shake it 0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:02.200 Off can probably be our first single. But I think 0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:05.359 y'all got one more in you, so I'm gonna send 0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:06.200 her back down. 0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:13.000 And that was the We Belong Together session. That was 0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:16.719 the you know, so it started with la It's like, 0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:20.239 I think y'all got one more and sent her back down. 0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:20.920 You know. 0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:27.400 This time it was Manuel Seal for your Seal. Hey, listen, listen. 0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:33.080 Yeah, because unless unless you're in the music business, don't 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:35.640 really know that name. It's not like you know, he 0:48:35.800 --> 0:48:38.640 never really came outside like that. No, but if you 0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:40.279 in this music business. 0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:41.800 Man, you seal. 0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:46.279 It's fucking special. I hope you see this, brother, Absolutely, 0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:48.920 you are, absolutely, yeah. 0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:53.000 You're special. That guy is special. Those records that he's 0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:56.840 been a part of incredible, Yeah, incredible. 0:48:56.880 --> 0:49:00.120 So yeah, you know we we we give real have 0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:05.000 to respect shoutouts flowers like yeah, man, yeah, we respect 0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:05.719 the game up here. 0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:06.640 No, no, you have to. 0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:08.040 And that's why, I mean, that's why it's important for 0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:09.919 me to bring him up too, like, you know, cause 0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:14.919 it's there is you know, these big songs. I feel 0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.879 like there could probably be some temptation to like want 0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:22.160 to hoard credit for yourself, but there's enough for it. 0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:27.040 Everybody made such a significant contribution. Like you know, I 0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:30.760 tell people like, you know it's Mariah and I wrote 0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:32.040 we Belong Together. 0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:35.040 Together, like you know what I mean. So like she 0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:36.239 was just as much. 0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:38.960 You know, it wasn't like a word here, a word there. 0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:42.439 No Mariah's in the studio writing the records. We wrote 0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:46.560 a song together, Manuel and JD you know, produced it, 0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:49.719 and so we worked on this record. It was like 0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:52.680 we worked till like five six in the morning, and 0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:58.080 I laid the demo for it and demo to there's 0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:00.440 a John Te demo to we Belong Together. 0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:04.359 There is an n F T. I want. 0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:12.279 You know who probably has it is La because he 0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:16.040 told me later he was like I knew she was 0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:20.640 gonna have something because she left Atlanta from the studio, 0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:24.200 landed in New York and l A was like she 0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:26.600 woke me up and was like, you have to hear 0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:30.040 this record. She came by and played him my demo 0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:33.239 Like that's how excited she was about the record, Like 0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:34.600 you got to hear this song. 0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:46.759 I'm gonna go pick up my son after this and 0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:47.680 we're gonna roll today. 0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:50.399 Yeah. 0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:54.720 Yeah, that guy is turning his piano. 0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:07.560 Yeah, were about to put some pressure on the pressure 0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:10.040 man himself, because I mean he wrote that too. Oh 0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:12.400 yeah yeah yeah, come on, like I don't know s 0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:15.879 yeah yeah, we're still writing hits to this day. 0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:18.480 Yeah, look shout out to all right Lynx. That's the home. 0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:29.160 You've written a lot of songs. Man, we haven't probably even. 0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:29.879 Got to have them. 0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:36.160 We haven't gotten to a third things you've done. There 0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:39.600 were a lot of songs written before you. Oh yes, 0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:42.839 it might have inspired you to become. 0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:45.359 The man you are. 0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:55.680 We would like to tap into the greatness that you 0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:59.200 consider great. Oh yes, by understanding your. 0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:18.200 Top five, your top five, top five, your top five, horsing. 0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:26.799 All and be sold. You got to have, you got 0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:45.920 to know you got John Yeah, Ron yeah, yeah, you 0:52:46.040 --> 0:52:46.239 know with. 0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:47.759 The Teddy Teddy pindagras. 0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:48.239 Yeah you. 0:52:51.560 --> 0:53:11.320 Five, John, take Austin, your top five R and B singers, 0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:19.040 Stevie Wonder start off, come on, come on, come on, 0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:19.719 come on, come on. 0:53:20.320 --> 0:53:28.719 Otis Redding, whoa Sam Cook? No, come on now, come 0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:34.839 on with anything like this, Whitney Houston. The voice, the voice, right, 0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:40.040 the voice of all voices. Right, I'm riding with the 0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:42.000 home team. I'm going usher come. 0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:47.000 On, I'm going with. 0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:54.200 Absolutely, I'm going with the squad, rocking with the squad. Absolutely, 0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:56.040 not bad, not mad at you at all. 0:53:56.200 --> 0:53:56.399 Yeah. 0:53:56.680 --> 0:54:02.080 Yeah. Top five R and B songs. 0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:09.880 As by Stevie Wonder kick it off absolutely, When a 0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:10.919 Woman's fed up. 0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:24.160 Lot of now, yeah, I don't want to find had 0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:32.000 Listen to the song. Listen to the song on the record, please. Yeah. 0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:37.240 So let's see as when a woman's fed up. Michael 0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:44.960 Jackson's Lady in My Life. Yes, yes, I think that's 0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:47.160 that's made it to the top five a few times 0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:48.040 it is. 0:54:48.920 --> 0:54:51.759 Yeah, I'm gonna give you the last two, but real quick. 0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:55.120 I told I asked JD one time, if Michael came 0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:57.560 to you to work, you know, would you work? When 0:54:57.600 --> 0:54:59.480 he was like, man, nah, I tell him to go 0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:02.200 back to quick see that's where he belongs. And he 0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:04.160 I was like, you know, but we can do some 0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:06.480 records for Michael. He was like, not like they can 0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:09.560 do him. I say, you don't think we could do 0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:12.240 like we've done a Lady in My Life. JD goes, 0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:14.759 when the hell we did one of them? 0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:19.640 Every day? I haven't seen I ain't seen one of 0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:21.520 them get out the door. When when they got out 0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:27.239 of door, I said, oh ship just yeah, so uh, 0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:36.279 lady in my life, never too much Luther Vandra Yeah yeah. 0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:39.360 What's that sound in the beginning of that? 0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:39.480 So? 0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:41.759 What is that? What is it. 0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:46.360 Before kick in? It's this sound that comes in in 0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:51.160 the beginning of that song. Could be as a basis 0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:58.120 something like, man, it's the call out to me? Yeah, 0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:01.239 and a door? 0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:05.680 What a song? 0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:09.359 What a record? An artist? But I got something else 0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:11.560 for him, Chief, I got something else for him. We've 0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:15.560 never done this. What haven't you done? I want to 0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:21.839 know your top five songwriters because you are who you are, brother, Yeah, 0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:24.760 I would like to know your top five songwriter. 0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.640 One of my pix is going to be controversial, so 0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:30.200 we'll save him at the end. 0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:34.360 I've already named one of his songs, I guess, but 0:56:34.680 --> 0:56:46.440 uh so Stevie Wonder babyface line. Now Richie the man 0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:47.680 who bought Beverly Hills. 0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:51.759 Off the Pin, off the pin talking about Pimp and 0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:54.800 your pen Yeah, absolutely. 0:56:54.600 --> 0:57:01.000 Pimp r Kelly yeah, m hm mm hmm. 0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:11.600 Jermaine Dupree, everybody in the Hall of Fame. 0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:14.439 Yeah, Hall of Fame, say what you won't. 0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:18.720 Absolutely, yes, that's a great list. Yeah, thank you, thank you, 0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:23.160 because you know we're we're all fans. Yeah, no matter 0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:24.800 what if we do it or not, we're all fans. 0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:27.640 Yeah. So for you as how I look at you. 0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:29.200 As a songwriter, for you to tell me who your 0:57:29.360 --> 0:57:33.600 five guys are, five women, whatever it is, that's amazing, amazing. 0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:36.280 Okay, I like your list. 0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:41.760 We're gonna make the voltron Okay, Okay, We're gonna assemble 0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:44.840 your R and B artists, the greatest, the super who 0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:48.760 are getting the vocal from the performing style, from the styling, 0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:52.400 from the passion of that artist, and who's gonna write 0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:53.240 for that artist? 0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:57.760 Okay? Vocal vocal Stevie wonder again. 0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:07.040 Stevie is Temples, Steve Ballads, yes, right, achappella, straight ahead 0:58:08.080 --> 0:58:10.640 vocal acrobatics, what however you want? 0:58:11.000 --> 0:58:17.520 Does it all performance style? Michael Jackson, that's gonna be fucking. 0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:23.600 Nuts voice Michael Nuts. Yeah, he's not gonna be He's 0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:24.560 not gonna be alien. 0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:28.040 Because you also get Stevie playing to because his voice 0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:30.280 play that's how he sings. 0:58:31.080 --> 0:58:35.000 Get on the hard mountain. Yeah, yeah, okay, it's the styling, 0:58:36.800 --> 0:58:46.480 the styling Frank Sinatra. Yeah yeah, Frank was a my friend. 0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:56.200 They called me, they call me absolutely absolutely yeah yeah. 0:58:56.640 --> 0:59:00.480 The passion of the artist hard mm hmm mm hmm. 0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:02.760 It's hard working. No one works hard. 0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:08.040 Dilegit absolutely, roller skates and things like well, how many 0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:10.320 hours do you need to prepare? 0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:11.920 You need ten thousand hours? 0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:15.640 He's hitting the same handstanding the one time where the 0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:19.000 one time where the dancer bumped into him and he 0:59:19.120 --> 0:59:20.320 turned it into a move. 0:59:20.480 --> 0:59:23.600 Yeah, like no, I'm not gonna fall on these skates 0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:26.520 like that. These people, I'm too nice. I'm about the 0:59:26.600 --> 0:59:33.960 robots sweetness, sweetness, Yeah, I'm nice with it. Absolutely. 0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:36.480 I think he kind of turned into like a half split, 0:59:36.880 --> 0:59:40.840 like I said, come on, I'm sick of all the point. 0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:45.520 Yeah, who's writing for this artist? I know who I 0:59:45.600 --> 0:59:46.200 want to write that. 0:59:46.320 --> 0:59:55.880 So man, that's say you better not give it away. 0:59:56.920 --> 1:00:01.760 That that's kind of, uh a toss up of what 1:00:03.560 --> 1:00:06.720 but you know, can I say I'm writing. 1:00:06.640 --> 1:00:10.880 You get what you Listen. I was ready to fight you. 1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:13.840 You got this mega artist and you ain't gonna write 1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:16.080 God do right? You better write it? Like, man, I 1:00:16.080 --> 1:00:19.640 don't want to give away my song I'm starting to 1:00:19.720 --> 1:00:28.040 frustrate man right before. Yeah, I'm writing for them, yeah. 1:00:28.280 --> 1:00:31.920 Man, yeah, writing an all timer all timer for the 1:00:32.280 --> 1:00:34.080 third or fourth and third or fourth thank you? 1:00:34.240 --> 1:00:45.160 Yeah, what you got, Chief? What you got? I ain't 1:00:45.200 --> 1:00:47.560 saying no, nat to pay. I ain't saying no nation. 1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:50.960 I ain't saying no Nick, ain't saying no names. Where 1:00:51.000 --> 1:00:51.400 you was? 1:00:52.280 --> 1:00:52.400 Who? 1:00:53.840 --> 1:00:54.560 What you did? 1:00:55.400 --> 1:01:06.800 Don't say she. I ain't saying no. Yeah, we hear that. 1:01:07.560 --> 1:01:16.480 We're here, now, we hear now. Okay, so you know 1:01:17.600 --> 1:01:19.760 you watched the show. You know you know how this 1:01:19.880 --> 1:01:21.720 thing goes. Man, we're here. 1:01:22.560 --> 1:01:25.560 This is the I ain't saying no name segment. Will 1:01:25.600 --> 1:01:29.560 you tell us your story? A story funny or fucked up? 1:01:30.000 --> 1:01:33.240 A funny and fucked up in the travels in the 1:01:33.360 --> 1:01:35.360 times of John T. 1:01:35.520 --> 1:01:43.440 Austin. Okay, here we go. Hold on, this is John T. Austin. 1:01:44.840 --> 1:01:49.680 Kids Beat. Oh God, if you've ever. 1:01:49.600 --> 1:01:51.240 Met a young lady that you wanted to be a 1:01:51.360 --> 1:01:56.000 sweet lady, jeez, he started with kids beat. 1:01:56.120 --> 1:01:56.320 Huh. 1:01:56.600 --> 1:02:00.320 Cocaine is involved in this story. Ship. Ship ain't be 1:02:00.440 --> 1:02:06.160 without you. You know, you can't be without the you feel. So. 1:02:07.160 --> 1:02:11.720 I ain't saying no names, but so we're in well, 1:02:11.720 --> 1:02:13.040 I'm gonna say a couple of names, but it has 1:02:13.080 --> 1:02:16.120 nothing to do with you know. But we're in Vegas 1:02:17.360 --> 1:02:19.840 working on the Raymond Versus Raymond album. This is the 1:02:20.080 --> 1:02:24.520 formation of the whole Oceans thing and whatever. And I 1:02:24.840 --> 1:02:27.840 was beefing with someone else in the music business. They 1:02:27.840 --> 1:02:33.720 were not in Vegas with us beefing, though I was beefing. 1:02:35.720 --> 1:02:39.840 Old a lady. I was in my I was emotional. 1:02:40.120 --> 1:02:42.240 I was Carl Thomas Thomas emotions. 1:02:42.520 --> 1:02:48.600 Look at me. I can't stop crying my hardest. 1:02:52.040 --> 1:02:56.080 I was reaching for rain. I'm grasp yes, you know, 1:02:56.640 --> 1:03:03.840 Jess and I had you know, was in the you know, 1:03:04.000 --> 1:03:10.240 the heights of just a really stellar drug problem. Uh, 1:03:10.800 --> 1:03:12.040 you know, it's one for the books. 1:03:12.840 --> 1:03:15.320 I went through a period where I did enough cocaine 1:03:15.360 --> 1:03:18.840 to probably kill a Kentucky Derby level thoroughbred horse. 1:03:19.320 --> 1:03:26.320 But so I'm, you know, just upset at this person. 1:03:28.160 --> 1:03:30.680 And we go out to Dre's. 1:03:31.760 --> 1:03:39.080 And you high, I'm high, and I'm rifling shots someone 1:03:40.600 --> 1:03:44.760 you know, and I'm just venting. I think j d 1:03:44.960 --> 1:03:49.160 Or be Cox makes a joke about it. I storm 1:03:49.320 --> 1:03:53.480 out of dres By myself. I've left everybody in there 1:03:53.600 --> 1:03:56.000 and I and you can't just storm out of dres 1:03:56.000 --> 1:03:58.400 because elevated. 1:03:59.000 --> 1:04:01.760 St the hallway a lot of breath. 1:04:01.880 --> 1:04:02.760 But I have. 1:04:04.480 --> 1:04:07.800 Stormed out of this place, but you also have performing 1:04:08.840 --> 1:04:12.400 exactly exactly. I get it. So then I go to 1:04:12.800 --> 1:04:14.680 the Spearmint Rhino. Why not? 1:04:16.320 --> 1:04:19.880 And I'm in the Spearmint Rhino, just me and my 1:04:19.960 --> 1:04:25.840 lonesome in the vi P and you know, I start 1:04:25.920 --> 1:04:28.840 to feel sick. I go to the bathroom and. 1:04:28.880 --> 1:04:33.320 I throw up, and then I feel better. 1:04:33.800 --> 1:04:35.680 And what would really make me feel better is if 1:04:35.800 --> 1:04:38.160 you know, I did another bump, and that would like 1:04:38.200 --> 1:04:40.000 get me back to where I was right And. 1:04:40.080 --> 1:04:47.640 So now I'm in the zone. And so this was 1:04:47.800 --> 1:04:55.840 the era of two ways, not two ways blackberries. I 1:04:56.120 --> 1:04:57.880 send off an email. 1:04:59.800 --> 1:05:05.640 H at about five o'clock Vegas time, and you know, 1:05:06.800 --> 1:05:11.240 talking about how you know, I need people around me 1:05:11.320 --> 1:05:12.080 who are solid. 1:05:13.200 --> 1:05:15.120 I need people arriving me who are going to ride 1:05:15.200 --> 1:05:18.560 for me. And if you are not for me, then 1:05:18.680 --> 1:05:23.760 you are against me. Send it to all of the 1:05:23.840 --> 1:05:30.720 crew in Vegas. Send it to Mark Pitts. Send it 1:05:30.840 --> 1:05:35.840 to Barry Weiss, who's that like a couple of other executives. 1:05:36.200 --> 1:05:38.200 Send it to everybody but the person I'm mad at 1:05:39.520 --> 1:05:41.800 who has no idea that I'm mad at him, by 1:05:41.840 --> 1:05:46.560 the way, and yeah, and then fired off of you 1:05:46.640 --> 1:05:48.800 know that text. I won't say who the person was, 1:05:49.240 --> 1:05:53.120 but and then the next day just rolled into the 1:05:53.160 --> 1:05:58.120 studio like like nothing happened. Well, first I had to 1:05:58.640 --> 1:06:01.439 the aforementioned black card. I left that in the spearmitt rhino, 1:06:01.560 --> 1:06:01.960 so I had to. 1:06:01.960 --> 1:06:02.920 Go back and hit that. 1:06:04.280 --> 1:06:06.080 But I wasn't the only one because the person I 1:06:06.200 --> 1:06:08.560 was like, you know, I left my MX here last night. 1:06:08.760 --> 1:06:10.800 You know which one is. I'm like, you know, it's 1:06:10.800 --> 1:06:13.160 the black card that doesn't narrow it down. 1:06:13.480 --> 1:06:16.880 And I'm like wow, So there was there was. I 1:06:16.920 --> 1:06:19.000 didn't feel bad. And so I go and see the 1:06:19.040 --> 1:06:22.760 next day like nothing happens. Usher comes in and you know, 1:06:23.160 --> 1:06:27.040 sits down. We're at the board and all he does 1:06:27.160 --> 1:06:27.880 is he goes. 1:06:30.040 --> 1:06:41.480 Okay, and I'm like, yep, He's like okay. So that's 1:06:41.560 --> 1:06:49.280 why I ain't gonna say you said. I ain't gonna 1:06:49.280 --> 1:06:53.920 say I'm gonna say that somebody, Oh my gosh, what 1:06:54.120 --> 1:06:56.640 was wrong with me? I was tripping matters of the heart. 1:06:56.720 --> 1:06:56.840 Man. 1:06:56.920 --> 1:07:01.720 It happened right, and cocaine and cocaine make the heart explode. 1:07:02.960 --> 1:07:08.040 We're glad that your heart didn't explode me too. Yeah, 1:07:08.680 --> 1:07:10.880 crazy enough. I never knew it was okay, brother, thank you. 1:07:11.320 --> 1:07:17.120 I never knew that. I never knew that. Thanks. Thanks. Yeah, yeah, 1:07:17.280 --> 1:07:20.560 welcome back, thank you? No, yeah, off it by the way, 1:07:20.880 --> 1:07:25.040 just you know, for years, so there you go. We 1:07:25.240 --> 1:07:25.920 need you, man. 1:07:26.160 --> 1:07:31.440 Yeah, brother, yeah, I'm and I'm running and doing jiu 1:07:31.520 --> 1:07:33.360 jitsu so you know things. 1:07:33.440 --> 1:07:39.000 Yeah, things you need your heart for. So mister John T. 1:07:39.280 --> 1:07:47.960 Austin Sinatra, Yeah, now you really are you are Sinatra boy? Yes, 1:07:50.080 --> 1:07:52.840 thank you, brother. I mean we've we've been great. We've 1:07:52.840 --> 1:07:57.520 been doing this for too long, man, and you know, 1:07:58.360 --> 1:08:03.440 just outside of friendships and brotherhood, man, just just what 1:08:03.560 --> 1:08:07.040 you've done. Thank you as a peer, you know what 1:08:07.080 --> 1:08:10.160 I mean, Like you are ship, you're him. 1:08:10.800 --> 1:08:12.920 Thank you so much. I appreciate you guys having me. 1:08:13.000 --> 1:08:14.840 I've been looking forward to doing it. Yeah, you know, 1:08:14.960 --> 1:08:16.760 we needed we needed to have. It's the R and 1:08:16.840 --> 1:08:19.519 B Money Podcast, the authority on all things R and 1:08:19.600 --> 1:08:22.000 B Absolute. How do we not have you? Thank you 1:08:22.080 --> 1:08:24.200 so much. Thank you for having me. You're on the 1:08:24.520 --> 1:08:27.760 You're on the board of authorities. Oh wow, I appreciate you, 1:08:27.760 --> 1:08:29.439 aboy to start sending the names to you like yo. 1:08:29.560 --> 1:08:31.360 You think they could come on there? 1:08:31.400 --> 1:08:31.680 It is. 1:08:34.880 --> 1:08:36.880 Right quite. 1:08:38.960 --> 1:08:43.920 That once wig that passed up on that record. 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