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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh one, your

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Speaker 3: Yes, I am Joe. Insurance is important, It really is, though.

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Speaker 2: risingtideenefits dot com. Joe, thank you for joining me today.

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Speaker 2: I have a few not current stories, but I'm going

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Speaker 2: to take you down memory lane, so to speak. We're

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Speaker 3: Well, for those that are listening right now, I just

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Speaker 3: Connor for this last two minutes, asked me if he

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Speaker 2: I'm leading the show, and I'm choosing us, yes, for

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Speaker 2: us to go back in time, just like Marty McFly.

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Speaker 2: My first stop is in China, and Joe, are you

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Speaker 3: Well, my knowledge goes back to the ancient Chinese using

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Speaker 2: Getting back into it. Joe So China, China Uh In

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, and you know they're

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Speaker 3: Because but God was talking to him through the burning bush.

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Speaker 3: name against so I can learn it? Please? Shen Nung Shnnung,

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Speaker 3: he's an emperor. Emperor shen Nung in China was BC

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Speaker 3: as well, you said seven hundred BC. Uh, Moses, Joe,

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Speaker 2: So shen Nung was a thousand years before.

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Speaker 2: And however, it was normalized the Bible that we're reading,

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Speaker 3: Well, the story is told as well that I've dug

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Speaker 3: Well, the bottom line is King James, once he got

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Speaker 2: There we go, Well, the more you know Joe, the.

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Speaker 3: More you know. But I don't know what he's changed.

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Speaker 2: At that point, baby, I mean shit, well that was

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Speaker 3: S's sing a quickies, Hi, Adrian, dammit, Oh sorry, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna quickie. We're just what are you doing later?

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Speaker 2: Like Joe, everyone loves the quickie.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, all right, Joe, where are you taking me to?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: What'd you say? Where in Greece.

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Speaker 2: The agent, the Adriatic seed.

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Speaker 3: The Adriat What is the Adriatic Sea?

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Speaker 2: I mean that is the sea where Greece, it's peninsula

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Speaker 3: All the buildings white and Greece like that. That's just

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Speaker 2: Well, it has a huge mainland. So I flew into

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Speaker 3: So how many of you kids went there?

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Speaker 2: Was like ninety? Shut up, there was ninety fools on this.

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Speaker 3: Did you get laid?

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Speaker 2: Uh no comment?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, chuckling around? I mean either you did or did it?

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Speaker 3: I mean, Joe, do you mean.

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Speaker 2: Don't don't lie to us, Connor, please let me thank you.

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Speaker 3: Joe, right, No, I don't don't kind of screwed somebody

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Speaker 3: No big deal, like a there's plenty of trips I've

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Speaker 3: just thought maybe you didn't.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean no, I was with all my homies or.

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Speaker 3: Did my high school trip. If I went out there,

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Speaker 3: I would have definitely got a hooker. Joe would have.

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Speaker 3: So that's the problem. That's why you wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 3: but you fuck my mom.

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Speaker 2: This is this is justifying not getting a hooker. However,

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Speaker 3: Why it should be Connor. That's why you're different than me,

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Speaker 3: which is hilarious. So that's why I asked, because then

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Speaker 3: things like oh did you hook up? Well, because I

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Speaker 3: just seemed like would be appropriate. Yeah, if you were

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Speaker 3: You don't have to exactly, so you out there, you

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Speaker 2: For sure, and it was it was it was a

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Speaker 3: The ninety people doing this.

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Speaker 2: Together roughly and plus plus chaperones like the teachers that

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Speaker 2: Bro. It was a lot of fun. Like I was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, we were drinking together, shooting, you know, it

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Speaker 3: the school guys too. And it's our senior tripwreck Catalina.

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Speaker 3: We're in the bar and our coach and advisor walks

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Speaker 3: in roll, Hey, come in, mister rogas. We got the

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Speaker 3: beer and he just drinking with us. And it went

441
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Speaker 3: from that was the end of the year and he

442
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Speaker 3: was drinking. But let me back up to the beginning

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Speaker 3: of the year when he came to meet us at

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Speaker 3: Pizza Hut right there on Capitol McKee and he comes

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Speaker 3: in and I already had a picture of beer at

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Speaker 3: the table and we're going into our senior year, and

447
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Speaker 3: he goes, Joe, I can't sit down with you guys

448
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Speaker 3: and have a picture of beer in front of me.

449
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Speaker 3: That's a respect for me. I'm I'm the teacher. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 3: you want to sit at the other table. Ok, fine,

451
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Speaker 3: I'm putting beer on the side.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

453
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Speaker 3: Like that means my point is, you know, that's fun

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Speaker 3: to drink with the advisor. So what's going on in

455
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Speaker 3: Greece though?

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Speaker 2: So we have you know, Greece and Rome, and of

457
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Speaker 2: course Rome had a vast empire going on and where

458
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: their reach was very far in multiple places. However, there's

459
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 2: been a lot of studies and a lot of architectural

460
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 2: you know projects that have been commissioned to find you know,

461
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Speaker 2: the effects of cannabis back in back in the day.

462
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Speaker 2: And you know, they found that the Romans and the

463
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Speaker 2: Greeks had extensive use of the plant as well as hemp.

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Speaker 2: And the first one I'm going to talk about is

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Speaker 2: in the form of concretes. So you know, the the

466
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Speaker 2: Romans were using hemp concrete to reinforce the mortar in

467
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Speaker 2: their buildings.

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Speaker 3: And so I wonder how they were making it back then,

469
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Speaker 3: where they're just getting it, breaking it up and put

470
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Speaker 3: it in there. I mean, how are they breaking that?

471
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure plant down to be you know

472
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Speaker 3: what I mean. Back then I wonder that's just and

473
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Speaker 3: I've heard actually of this of them using that, like

474
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Speaker 3: I've heard this story, but it's just weird to think

475
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 3: how they figured that out to use that, and why

476
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Speaker 3: we haven't grown from that.

477
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Speaker 2: Well, And there's there's a probably a plethora of reasons

478
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Speaker 2: as to why that's the case. And you know, I'm

479
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 2: about to break it down contextually and it'll start to

480
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 2: the pieces will start to, you know, put together for you.

481
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: So hemp demands little water to grow and therefore requires

482
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: no artificial irrigation and grows approximately fifty times faster than

483
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Speaker 2: a tree. After being harvested and cut, the plants are

484
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: then dried for a few days before being grouped and

485
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: poured into containers with water, which swells the stems. When dry,

486
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: the fibers can be utilized, among other uses, for the

487
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Speaker 2: production of paper, fabrics, ropes, biodegradable packaging, bio fuel, and

488
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Speaker 2: construction materials. So you could see all of the utility

489
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: that this plant has. And so now you have the

490
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Speaker 2: Romans who are in advanced society, and.

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Speaker 3: You would think they'd want to capitalize on this, Well,

492
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Speaker 3: they can utilize that.

493
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Speaker 2: They couldn't They couldn't contain it, and so they couldn't

494
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Speaker 2: get a grip on it.

495
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 3: Because and it was growing too fast to speak, growing

496
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: too fast because we're paying no water, it's just growing.

497
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Speaker 3: It's all this timp everywhere now probably growing and growing

498
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Speaker 3: more and more exactly.

499
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Speaker 2: So think about how efficient it is and then think

500
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Speaker 2: about how many uses it has. So then what does

501
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Speaker 2: that do to an economy? So that basically you're taking

502
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Speaker 2: money out from like the general economy because no one's

503
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Speaker 2: buying materials, so therefore the government's not getting tax and so.

504
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Speaker 3: And this goes back to the Roman Empire. Yeah, so

505
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Speaker 3: the Roman Empire was making cloth from cotton.

506
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly, and so they were.

507
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Speaker 3: They weren't microfiber and everything back then.

508
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: It was yeah, and you know they were making like

509
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 2: paper scrolls with this thing, and so uh it was

510
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 2: it was uh, I've had a very high utilization rate

511
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Speaker 2: with it, and so you know, Roman, the Roman Empire

512
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: lasted a long time, and so there were points where

513
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Speaker 2: you know, I've I've found articles where they talk about

514
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Speaker 2: how the Romans used it recreationally and also medicinally. So

515
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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of different points in time

516
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Speaker 2: that you know, cannabis had its own timeline with Rome,

517
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Speaker 2: and so you know, it's just another example.

518
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Speaker 3: Did you see the demise from Rome so to speak

519
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Speaker 3: of when cannabis was you know, Okay, we see the

520
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 3: greatness of it and they're using it for this and that.

521
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 3: How did it take its fall? Because that's the one

522
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Speaker 3: thing I don't remember seeing in like the little documentary

523
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Speaker 3: quick footages that I've watched of Like you mentioned that

524
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Speaker 3: the China would have happened there, but in the Romans,

525
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Speaker 3: how did it become I think it might have been

526
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 3: the same thing too, But why did they not want

527
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Speaker 3: to use it? I love this history, but it's hardly

528
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: remembered all the years. I know. But you did a

529
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: damn good job explaining the beginning part and taking me

530
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Speaker 3: to Greece and taking me why it's there and why

531
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Speaker 3: this and why that.

532
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, got to get the context of the setting.

533
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Speaker 3: It's good stories because it's so true the Roman Empires.

534
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Speaker 3: You look at this, okay, first time now is in China.

535
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Speaker 3: Then we have the Roman Empires talking about cannabis and

536
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: the usage there. It's just the moral of the fact

537
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 3: of the story. You don't even know what you know

538
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 3: when they did that much. I like how you're taking

539
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: me down the first ever and we realized that this

540
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 3: is before Moses. Now we're going after during Moses. Actually

541
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Speaker 3: the Roman Empire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Moses time Roman. The Roman Roman Empire was a

543
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Speaker 2: thousand years, so.

544
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Speaker 3: You know that was during a long long time Moses.

545
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Speaker 2: Yep.

546
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Speaker 3: So therefore, if the Romans did that because he went over,

547
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,959
Speaker 3: he wasn't the Roman Empire. No, he wasn't the Roman Empire.

548
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was using it. I gotta I gotta

549
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: look it up. But you know, the Romans had all

550
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Speaker 2: the way up to Sinai and Jyps all the way

551
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: through there. The Romans had Egypt, you know, like Alexander

552
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: the Great.

553
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Speaker 3: Roman Egypt, he was the Egyptian one. If I'm not

554
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: mistake of the Egypt don't have the snake. Yeah, that's crazy.

555
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: They all were using it back then.

556
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: Yes, No, they were for multiple uses, whether it be

557
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 2: recreational or recreationally or medicinally. However, Joe, that is the

558
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 2: end of the the Roman forum, so to speak. And

559
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Speaker 2: I'm going to now take you back east to India

560
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Speaker 2: and Indi Kush Mountains, so we'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: Like this journey or taking me on by the way.

578
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 3: I am upset at myself that I didn't light a

579
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: cigar at the beginning of the show, because, uh, you

580
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: took me down a path that I wanted to smoke corner.

581
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: I was like, and then I was like mad at

582
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 3: myself that I didn't. So thank you for this journey.

583
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: Not too late, you got it in.

584
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: Devery exactly, not too late. This has been thank you

585
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: for taking me to China and then Greece. Where are

586
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Speaker 3: we going next?

587
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: We're going to India. That's right, We're going to India.

588
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 3: And you know, my daughter and my brother have been

589
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: to India. Love it.

590
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: That's awesome, and I have not had the opportunity to go,

591
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: and I'd love to see it at some point because

592
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: I know it's very beautiful. And I the culture too,

593
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: it's very controversial, beautiful.

594
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: Controversial What do you mean controversial? Just the work ethic?

595
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: What? Well, No, it's just you know, there's a lot

596
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: of uh India cultural difference.

597
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: So I love about different places though, you know what

598
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I do love the good things, but like

599
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: if you just think about, like what's worked for those cultures, Like, dude,

600
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: that's how they've been getting down. Who are we to

601
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: sit here? I mean, you know, we want to make

602
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: human rights for everybody. And I agree, I mean, I

603
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: mean do I I mean I do, But if that's

604
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: how they've gotten down, I.

605
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, different horses for different courses.

606
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: Man, you know, so what's going on in India?

607
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: So, uh, India also has a rich history in cannabis.

608
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: Some say it came from India.

609
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: Some say it came from India. And you know, it's

610
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: funny because around the same time period as Shan Nung

611
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit, you know, five hundred years after, Yeah, roughly,

612
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: the Indians started using cannabis. And so they started using

613
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 2: it in a plethora of ways within their food and

614
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: so they had teas, they had drinks, they had you know,

615
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: they were infusing it with walnuts, a whole bunch of stuff. So,

616
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: other preparations of cannabis in India include ganja and charas

617
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Speaker 2: stronger than bang Bang was the drink that I was referencing.

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Speaker 3: B h A n g.

619
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Speaker 2: Ganja is made from the flowers and upper leaves of

620
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Speaker 2: the female plant. Charas is the strongest pepper preparation, is

621
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Speaker 2: made from the blooming flowers, similar in strength to hashish.

622
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: Chars contain a lot of resin Both are smoked and

623
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Speaker 2: earthenware pipe called chilium. The pipe is usually shared among

624
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: two to five people and it's it was a communal activity.

625
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: So along with eating it they were smoking it recreationally

626
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: back then, and so you know, they were growing it,

627
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: cultivating it. They were green thumbs out there, Joe.

628
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Speaker 3: I mean, and it's been known all the spices and

629
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Speaker 3: everything that come from India like that, right, I mean,

630
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: it doesn't surprise me. But when did it become like

631
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: a bad thing out there too? Which I mean I

632
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: keep asking these random Yeah, I think the other bad

633
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: question of like it's been good. It was always known

634
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: in my opinion as well as good, like look what

635
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: it's done for us early times and how it heals

636
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: and even us as adults using it for real medicine.

637
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: And dude, I rubbed my wrist with it this morning, right,

638
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: and my elbow and my other wrist and my other elbow,

639
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: and I was rubbing my hips with it. This new

640
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: cream I just got. I don't know if you were

641
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: here the other day when this company was here, but

642
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: I've been talking to these folks on Instagram and then

643
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: Mikayla talked to them and then they came in. Dog.

644
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: There's just some new medicine and creams out there that

645
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: they're making and getting down better. Meat. Mean, this company

646
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: was breaking down how they do it and I'm like

647
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: it was different, and it's like we're learning new things still. Yeah,

648
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: we're still learning new ways how this cannabis can be

649
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: like used in a way to help. And that's my

650
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: biggest way recover just medicine wise, Yeah, in all aspects

651
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Speaker 3: of life, recover urid.

652
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for real, it's like as if as your

653
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: lungs need air and you know, all your bodily functions

654
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: work right, like you need to pee, you need to

655
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: pass stuff through that system. You need to you need

656
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: to pass stuff out your intestines, your endocanaminoid system needs

657
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: to be uh regulated, you know, in the right way,

658
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: and like people are missing out on it. And I

659
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: genuinely think a lot of genetic issues could probably stem from,

660
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: you know, not a.

661
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: Healthier environment period, more children being developed stronger with adults

662
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: using CBD properly.

663
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be like a dot milk campaign.

664
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously, cannabis got cannabinoid because your body has him.

665
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: Do your body good, because get some cannabinoids in you today,

666
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: because apparently got milk wasn't even right, I mean really right.

667
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: It wasn't even real.

668
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: And it was like me, geez, big more milk.

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00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: Joe big milk was fucking with us.

670
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: Joe and Joe looked like we drank a lot of milk.

671
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: Got me home, Joe, you drink some milk? Oh boy,

672
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: your mom me drinks and milk.

673
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know my story. Yeah, it's uh.

674
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: You came from the Alme milk fucking family.

675
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: Fuck No, I was I hated milk, bro. I was

676
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: drinking oj and Ship's.

677
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: But you just have the metabolism of your dad's.

678
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: I'm all ectomorphicking Ship so hard to wig.

679
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're that guy crazy, You're that guy. I hate

680
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: guys like you.

681
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: I fucking I hate it too. It sucks, but I'll

682
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: be thinking myself later.

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00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: I guess you get to live the longer, healthier, so

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Speaker 3: to speak.

685
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully.

686
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: But you're the skinny guy with high cholesterol, like the

687
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: other thing that you just can't see, like, oh my god,

688
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: you look so healthy.

689
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: And I'm rotting on the inside exactly right.

690
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: It's just like, what's going on.

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00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: I know, it's crazy. Back to our point in India,

692
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: so I'm looking it up and attempts at criminalizing cannabis

693
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: and British India were made and mooted in eighteen thirty eight.

694
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: Eighteen seventy one, in eighteen seventy seven. So from my understanding,

695
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: the British came in and when they colonized India, and

696
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: when they were doing the British East India Trading Company

697
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: with all the tea and importing all their shit, you know,

698
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: they they probably were taxing the Indians and saw all

699
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: the use for it too and were like, you know

700
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: whatnot fuck that, it's I'm not making money from it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: The British loved their taxes. They loved to tax the

703
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: fucking tax t tax bro Boston Tea Party. Okay, let's see.

704
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: The British found the use of cannabis so extensive and

705
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: colonial India that they commissioned a large, large scale study

706
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: in the late eighteen nineties. They were concerned that the

707
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 2: abuse of cannabis was endangering the health of the native

708
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 2: people and driving them insane. Could the British government asked

709
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: the Government of India to appoint a commission to look

710
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: into the cultivation of the hemp plant, preparation of drugs

711
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: from it, trade in those drugs, the social and moral

712
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: impact of its consumption, and possible prohibition. So they came

713
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: in there saw that shit use the excuse that it

714
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 2: was fucking making them insane, and they banned that shit.

715
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: They tried to. Yeah, and so in nineteen sixty one

716
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: International Treaty Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs classified cannabis with

717
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: hard drugs. During the negotiations, the India and delegation opposed

718
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: its intolerance to the social and religious customs of India.

719
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: As compromised, the Indian government promise to limit the export

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00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: of Indian hemp, and the final draft of treaty defined

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00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: cannabis as cannabis means the flowering or fruiting tops of

722
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: cannabis blah blah blah. So the Indian government is strict

723
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: with the cannabis policy. According to Section twenty of the

724
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: NDPS Act, holding a small quantity of weed can like

725
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 2: you in jail for rigorous imprisonment of up to six

726
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: months or a fine of ten thousand of their currency.

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00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: Cultivation of cannabis for industrial purposes such as making industrial

728
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: hemp or for horticulture uses in is legal in India.

729
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: So industrial horticultural use is legal. So you know, that's

730
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: that was probably their compromise with the British, that they

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00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: couldn't use it psychoactively.

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00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 4: So do you guys know why, like it was super

733
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 4: legalized in the United States for so long? Like, is

734
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,479
Speaker 4: there is there a reason for that? Do you guys

735
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 4: know a gang of reasons? I you know, for mine?

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00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: From how I see it, it's that the government has

737
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: never been prepared to truly profit off of it and

738
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: don't understand the industry well enough to be able to

739
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: do that. So they've just made it schedule one the

740
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: whole time because that's what's convenient, and they can fill

741
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: their quotas on you know, black market busts and all

742
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: that shit.

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00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: That's a good question though, Joe, Like when did the

744
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 3: law first come in that cannabis is a scheduled one drug?

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00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 3: Is that the Google search connor what is the fucking

746
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: proper way to look that ap of a date time?

747
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: Like that? That's kind of what you're asking, right, Joe,

748
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: because I don't know that answer that I've heard it.

749
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 3: I feel like and I know it, but I don't

750
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: know it. No.

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00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like you guys can mention like the

752
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 4: power for properties it has and like how it was

753
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 4: used in civilization for so long that I never really you.

754
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 3: Would think that in the United States. It just was there,

755
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: and the Indians were using it obviously, yeah, right, And

756
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 3: so when they came to the United States, Indians were

757
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: using it, the Mexicans were using it obviously, right. So

758
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: they kick everybody out. Let's just talk about California, how

759
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: this really went down, or call it Plymouth Rock, whatever

760
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 3: you want to do in Pennsylvania. But they came in

761
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: and they pushed people out. Our government becomes a government.

762
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: Let's just jump right ahead of time. And my point is,

763
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: when does the law become weed? Smoking weed is illegal?

764
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 3: You got that answer now, Gunner.

765
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 2: In the Controlled Substance Act of nineteen seventy, the federal

766
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: government categorized marijuana as a Schedule on substance, meaning it

767
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: was considered to have no exceptacle medical use and was

768
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: among the class of drugs having the highest potential for misuse.

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Speaker 3: That's where the sixties folks were. The sixties and the seventies,

770
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: they tried to come him down. That's when I came around.

771
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: I'm a seventy two, you feel me, so therefore I

772
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: seen this like that and that's why I started smoking

773
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 3: when I was six. Yep, because that was seventy eight.

774
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 3: You feel isn't that funny. Crazy to think like that

775
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 3: when you look at this and that's when it was firstly,

776
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: it's a bigger deal now, but it really wasn't when

777
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 3: I was first there. Because I'm eight ten, eight years

778
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 3: in of it being illegal. You know, my brother's already

779
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: coming for Nebraska. He's already ten years older than me,

780
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 3: so he's experienced it being legal to now it's an

781
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: illegal drug. I just put that together right now for

782
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: the first time of my life.

783
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 2: Crazy the time, because like think about it in school

784
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 2: even they like don't teach history in chronological order, so

785
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: everything seems like I've been.

786
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: Doing it exactly forever, like it's not that long ago. No, No,

787
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: it was eight years before I fucking smoked weed, that

788
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: it was illegal two years before I was born.

789
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, I know. It's it's pretty wild crazy

790
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: that we say that everything's co everything coincides and kind

791
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: of happens around the same time. You know, it's out

792
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 2: of whether it's divine.

793
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 3: I never looked at just to think of my lifetog

794
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: two years before I was born, cannabis wasn't even fucking illegal. Wow, crazy?

795
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: Is that wild? And to think like Mark and Craig washerman.

796
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: They were growing up, it was legal, yeah, and then

797
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 3: it got illegal.

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00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: Fuck, put the fucking hammer down? Was that Nixon? Nineteen seventy?

799
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Speaker 3: Hold up? Who was that president? What was it? Nixon?

800
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: I think so? Or was that might've been after Watergate?

801
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: Who as the president in nineteen seventy nineteen seventy two

802
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 3: when I was born? Wasn't it seventy two?

803
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: And I was Nixon sixty nine to seventy four?

804
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Speaker 1: Nick?

805
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? Was this fucker? This dude is such a bastard.

806
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this a Nixon is the.

807
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Speaker 3: One that did it.

808
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 4: Huh.

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00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,479
Speaker 3: He was a little fucking He had that fucking face

810
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 3: too that he's like, I got.

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Speaker 2: Lunch, did the fucking every time you got fire? Did

812
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: the peace sign? Shit? Yeah?

813
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 3: It was all smoking cigar? Soo? Wasn't he the Nickson?

814
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: This guardmokers?

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Speaker 2: Dare I think so? And did he sent us to

816
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 2: fucking he sent us to NORM? Because I was after Korea?

817
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: Was in fifties Nixon?

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Speaker 1: No, I think you're right.

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00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: Or he might have taken over during NORM.

820
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Speaker 3: But either way, seventies, I mean yeah, same time. He's

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Speaker 3: an asshole. Thank you Connor for the history lesson. It's

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Speaker 3: a pleasure of course.

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