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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Maureene Saint Germain with us. Internationally acclaimed ascension teacher, best

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Speaker 2: selling an award winning author known for her powerful Sacred

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Speaker 2: Tools and Amazon bestsellers including Opening the Akashic Records, Waking

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Speaker 2: Up in five D, Beyond the Flower of Light, or

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Speaker 2: latest book, Living Your Five D Life. Additionally, she's an

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Speaker 2: award winning musician, creator of the meditation app Illuminate, and

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Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety five, Marine has traveled worldwide teaching wisdom

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Speaker 2: and sacred practices, authoring a number of books into fifteen

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Speaker 2: plus languages. Maurene, welcome back. How have you been.

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Speaker 3: I've been really good, and it's so good to hear

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Speaker 3: from you. You sound pretty good yourself, looking forward to this

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Speaker 3: good me too.

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Speaker 2: Now we're in the third dimension right now, aren't we?

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Speaker 3: Pretty much? You know, we have moments where in a

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Speaker 3: really yummy place and we're feeling good about everybody and everything,

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Speaker 3: and somebody does something unusual, you know, disappointing, and we oh,

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Speaker 3: that's okay, no problems, that's five D. But most of

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Speaker 3: the time we say, hey, what's he doing.

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Speaker 2: Now? Of course what happened to the fourth dimension?

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Speaker 3: Fourth dimension is a portal transition place. I like to

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Speaker 3: say that it's where we go when we are on

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Speaker 3: our way to five or back down to three. It's

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Speaker 3: a little bit like going to Grand Central. You never

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Speaker 3: go there to spend the night, or an airports, you know,

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Speaker 3: go there to spend the night on purpose.

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Speaker 2: Is it easy to d and go from three D

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Speaker 2: to five D?

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Speaker 3: Yes? It is. And what happens is we slide through

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Speaker 3: fourth sometimes unknowingly, you know, we start to move into

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Speaker 3: a place of yumminess and fort dimension is this quality

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Speaker 3: of a little more emotion, a little bit faster in

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Speaker 3: terms of vibration, and that either lifts us up to

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Speaker 3: five or sometimes we slide back down to third, but

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Speaker 3: we don't generally stay in for it. It's a place

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Speaker 3: of movement. The movement is enough that we get propelled

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Speaker 3: in one direction or the other, kind of like the

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Speaker 3: wave of the ocean.

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Speaker 2: By moving into the five D, do we manifest ourselves

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Speaker 2: to be able to do it at will? Or does

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Speaker 2: something kind of force us into that.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit of both. George you know, you're

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Speaker 3: a person's will certainly contributes to it, but you can't

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Speaker 3: really will yourself to be happy, but you can choose

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Speaker 3: to be open hearted, which would then put you into

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Speaker 3: five D. When we step away from worry, you know,

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Speaker 3: we lose something and we fret about it. But then

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Speaker 3: when we finally say, okay, it's gone. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: one of those things that happened, I'm okay with it,

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Speaker 3: then we're sliding back into five D. So this ideas

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Speaker 3: it's a fidia is that there isn't polarity, There isn't judgment.

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Speaker 3: We still have up and down, we still have dark

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Speaker 3: and light colors. We still have variety, we just don't

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Speaker 3: have the kind of variety that causes problems for ourselves

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Speaker 3: or our family or friends.

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Speaker 2: Can we get stuck in a certain dimension marine, Yes, And.

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Speaker 3: The most commonplace to get stuck is in forty when

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Speaker 3: you're on a rant, or you're in a rage, or

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Speaker 3: when you are starting to become mentally depressed. Those are

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Speaker 3: all times that you kind of get stuck in that

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Speaker 3: zone that you feel like you can't get out of

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Speaker 3: that same zone. You know, like in Field of Dreams

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Speaker 3: where the wife was stuck. She didn't know she could

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Speaker 3: get herself out of it.

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Speaker 2: It is truly remarkable. Do a lot of people study this, Yes,

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Speaker 2: and I.

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Speaker 3: Have clients and customers all over the world. It's very

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Speaker 3: exciting time because you know, twenty years ago, even I

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Speaker 3: didn't understand or know what it meant to be just dimensional.

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Speaker 3: And I equate that to the same words that some

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Speaker 3: people are using for ascension. So when people say, well,

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Speaker 3: what's the ascension, I'll say, it's for just dimension. It's

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Speaker 3: this dimension is what everyone else calls heaven.

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Speaker 2: What gets us into the mode? Meditation? Attitude? What does it?

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Speaker 3: Meditation can do it? Meditation is very helpful because meditation

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Speaker 3: helps us to heal connected to source or our higher consciousness.

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Speaker 3: Certainly that's probably the number one tool. And then other

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Speaker 3: tools include, you know, forms of exercise like martial arts

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Speaker 3: to John chigong or tai chi, those kinds of things.

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Speaker 3: Also your intention to find your way there because you

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Speaker 3: know it's easy to mess up. And I'll give you

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Speaker 3: an example on myself. You know, many years ago, when

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Speaker 3: you know, I would say, oh, that guy's an idiot,

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Speaker 3: or what did they think they're doing?

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Speaker 2: Road rage?

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Speaker 3: Exactly, not really bad road rage, which is the road rage.

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Speaker 3: And so then I chose, as as a proactive thing

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Speaker 3: Oh they need to get where they're going faster than

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Speaker 3: I do. I'm good. Or they must not have seen me,

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Speaker 3: or maybe you know, it's somebody who doesn't want to

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Speaker 3: moved my energy from being in judgment of other people

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about what happens when you die, Maureen, I

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Speaker 2: give me your overall thoughts. First of all, I.

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Speaker 3: Believe that the soul compresses the four lower body, so

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Speaker 3: there's a physical, mental, emotional and hysterics. So the physical

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Speaker 3: body kind of congeal back into the etheric body and

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Speaker 3: they hang out for a couple of days. And that's

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Speaker 3: why some people can sense that the person aside is

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Speaker 3: still in the room. It's also when we go to

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Speaker 3: I believe that we have a choice to not reincarnate

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Speaker 2: A lot of people, when they astral project travel through

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Speaker 2: the astral body. I've always believed that when you die,

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Speaker 2: that chord is severed. Am I right, Yes you are.

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Speaker 3: And I wrote a really cool meditation called the Golden

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Speaker 3: energetic space that allows us to connect to our higher consciousness.

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Speaker 3: So in colloquial terms, we could call it this satellite

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Speaker 2: You have said that the appearance of relatives in the

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Speaker 2: afterlife can be misleading. Explain that, yes, it.

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Speaker 3: Can, because very often the appearance of relatives is a

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Speaker 3: have free will after we die. We haven't left the

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Speaker 3: and if you reincarnate, that primary focus comes back to Earth.

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Speaker 2: So you don't see reincarnation as a necessity, that is correct.

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Speaker 3: I do not. I think that everywhere at the end

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Speaker 3: the rules are different. It's just like we can talk

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Speaker 3: So the rules of soccer are much more of a

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Speaker 3: gentleman's game. But there's even more of a five D

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Speaker 3: And the reason I call it a five D game

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Speaker 3: And the rules work both ways. So if you were

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Speaker 2: That's remarkable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pure joy. And in some communities like Madison, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 3: they actually have ultimate leagues, just like they had bowling leagues,

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Speaker 3: you know, years ago, for people to play with other teams.

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Speaker 2: You know, as an adult team, whose choice is it

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Speaker 3: The choice is ours? And you know, this brings me

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Speaker 3: And the woman said, I don't know. I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I'm listening to this story and I'm thinking to myself, wait,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know you could decide this when you got

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Speaker 3: after you're dead. I thought you had to do what

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Speaker 3: and that since then, I've had, you know, meditations and

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is is five D marena mental application or

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Speaker 3: That's a real hydrid question. When we're five D in

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Speaker 2: If you had your pick, where would you rather be?

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Speaker 2: Three D or five D?

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Speaker 3: Five D five D for sure, because first of all,

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Speaker 2: How long can you stay in five D?

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Speaker 3: You can stay in five D as long as you

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Speaker 3: ultimately it would be a permanent.

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Speaker 2: State when you get swept back into let's say three D.

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Speaker 3: No, not at all. It's more like waking up from

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Speaker 3: So it's an awareness that you were in this place,

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Speaker 3: three D we offer resistance. We offer resistance to what

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Speaker 3: we don't know, what we're afraid of, what's unfamiliar and scary,

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Speaker 3: And in five D were open to experience and things

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Speaker 2: You're saying he was calm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the dog would just sit there and be very

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Speaker 2: Well, who was in five D the contractor or the dog?

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Speaker 3: The dog as an example, because in most cases, you know,

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Speaker 3: if there's a loud noise, it disrupts your thinking or

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Speaker 3: it disrupts what Sure.

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Speaker 2: Now, is five D something physical or is it emotional?

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's either. I believe that five D

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're still doing your normal activities, right right,

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Speaker 3: You're still doing your normal activities, but things are smooth.

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Speaker 3: five D compared to three D is when people, you know,

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Speaker 3: they finish their errands, they're feeling good, everything's cool. They

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