1 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Sex, trafficking, racketeering, y'all know I'm talking about Sean Cone's 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: Puffy p Diddy Puff Daddy. 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: He is accused of using. 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Violence, threats, blackmail to control his victims to make sure 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: that his empire is protected. We have the just. 6 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: She's just a light. I mean, what can I say? 7 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: She is beyond by vacious. 8 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: She is fun, she is talented, she is smart, she 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: is beautiful. We have Lauren Conlin, y'all, and she has 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: been at that courthouse from dark to dark. She ain't 11 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: missing none of it. She's been live and what we 12 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: decided we were going. 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: To do tonight for you. 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Now, let me tell you this is Friday night, and 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a special release of Zone seven on Monday. 16 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: But if anything happens, first thing Monday morning, and he 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: Lauren's fault. So it's Friday night, We're going to get 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: you all the latest information first thing Monday that we can, 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: and we got Lauren here to run through every bit 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: of it. 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: Hey, honey, Hi Cheryl, that was such a nice introduction. 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. You're the kindest and I feel 23 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: the exact same way about you, So just want to 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: put that out there. 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: Nothing but facts. I mean, I have spent enough time with. 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: You and your family. I mean, it's just extraordinary the 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: way that you just live your life, always so positive 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: and happy and willing to help and share and listen, y'all. 29 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: She has been running full speed. She could be home 30 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: right now with her feed up and a nice drink 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: of whatever she chooses, but no, she's here to talk 32 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: about everything. So let's just get into it. And I 33 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: think it would be really important for people. Let's just 34 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: start at the beginning and talk about the first witness 35 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: we saw. Let's start with Cassie Ventura. 36 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 3: Yes, Cassie, she was the third witness. We saw two 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: witnesses before Cassie. We saw the security guard at the 38 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: Intercontinental Hotel that was present and working the day of 39 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: the infamous beatdown of Cassie. That's really what I refer 40 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: to that video as the beat down. And then we 41 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: heard from Daniel Phillip, who was the escort that was 42 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 3: frequently used with Cassie and Diddy. And then we heard 43 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: from Cassie. So we had a little bit of foundation 44 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: from those two, but Cassie really laid the foundation for 45 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: about four days, I believe. I'm thinking back now it 46 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: was two weeks ago, but I believe it was about 47 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: four days on the stand, eight and a half months pregnant. Man, 48 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: I was so impressed with her, Cheryl, her poise, she 49 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: rarely lost her cool, and she was just going through 50 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: the God, can you imagine Cheryl going through text messages 51 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: that you sent when you were twenty two? I mean, 52 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: are just things you said and did when you were 53 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 3: twenty one or twenty two. And also you know this, Yeah, 54 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: this was the darkest time in her life. It's very 55 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: clear that Cassie was groomed, she was assaulted, she was beaten, 56 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: she was you know, she was not treated how any 57 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: human being should ever be treated. And she was up 58 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: there on the stand, you know, just reliving all of this, 59 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: and also admitting to her own faults, her her own 60 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: addiction to drugs, her own bouts with depression after you know, 61 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: her time with Sean Colmes, and again, her testimony really 62 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: laid the foundation here. But I don't think a lot 63 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: of us really expected some of the details that we 64 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: were about to hear. And I'm not trying to sensationalize anything, 65 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: but you know, just having to hear this poor girl 66 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: talk about having an escort urinate in her mouth as 67 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: well as Sean Colmes, and to have the prosecutor kind 68 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: of question her and say and ask questions like, well, 69 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: did you want them to urinate on you? And she's like, no, 70 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: does anybody? And I know they have to ask these questions, 71 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: it's their job, but it just felt so wrong to 72 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 3: sit there and have to listen to her getting hammered 73 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: about this. And I'm not even talking about the cross examination, 74 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 3: which is just so crazy, you know, because it's they 75 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,119 Speaker 3: had to get all these details out, so so yeah, 76 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: it was it was a foundation that was laid and 77 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: the violence she described, the hotel setups, with the freak 78 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 3: offs that she described, down to Ditty's Louis Vauton medbag 79 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: that she first introduced to us. They have all since 80 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 3: been corroborated. So her testimony was incredibly important. 81 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: And I think the video, I mean, if you don't 82 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: want to believe her, there is no way you can't 83 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: believe what you're seeing. 84 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: It's true. And it's crazy because I thought it was 85 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 3: so difficult. We had to watch that video on the 86 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: first day, probably six times. At one point we had 87 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 3: to go frame by frame and see other parts of 88 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: the video that we hadn't seen before. I mean, it 89 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: was them walking down the hall. But still I find 90 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: it all to be equally traumatic. And I found that 91 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 3: the jury was just not really flinching or showing any 92 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: reaction throughout this, And I kept wondering to myself, are 93 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: they becoming desensitized to this violence? Because they also rarely 94 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: react to some of the violent things that we hear 95 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: from witnesses on the stand as well. But yeah, going 96 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: back to what you said, the video is definitely a 97 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: very important piece of evidence for so many reasons, as 98 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: is that entire hotel incident, because the security guard testify 99 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 3: that Diddy showed him a stack of money and essentially, 100 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: and I'm paraphrasing, said, you know, here, take this to 101 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 3: basically keep your mouth shut. Again, he didn't say that, 102 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: but that was inferred. The security guard said no. And 103 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: then during cross examination, it was I forget exactly who 104 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 3: was Maybe it was Xavier Donaldson who said, but don't 105 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: quote me on that, but he just said, well, you know, 106 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: didn't you say that you told mister Holmes that he 107 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 3: had to pay for the damage to the hotel room 108 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: or the glass that he broke in the hallway. You know, 109 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: couldn't he have been offering you that this money for 110 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: that so, you know, doing their job. But yeah, it was. 111 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: It was definitely a very important piece of evidence. 112 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: Agreed. And let's talk about Kid Cutty. 113 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: That was a crazy day, Cheryl. It was, I man, 114 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,559 Speaker 3: not I was expecting the courthouse to be a circus again, 115 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: but it was so crazy. Just to go back for 116 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: a second, it was so crazy on opening statements or 117 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: the day of opening statement and then it kind of 118 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: died down a little bit and then Kid Cutty, woof 119 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: it was. It was nuts. But he he testified. He 120 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: testified about the break in of his house, which turned 121 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: out to be an official trespassing incident. But we didn't 122 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: know about this break in the public really only heard 123 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: rumors about his car being blown up. So his testimony 124 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: about Sean Colmbs going to his house with an associate, 125 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: being called by an assistant that was in the car 126 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: outside of his house while this was happening, Capricorn Clark. 127 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: He described getting this call while he was with Cassie 128 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: at a hotel and just you know, running over there 129 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: to the house and he said that they were gone 130 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: by the time that he got there. That his dog 131 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: was in the bathroom and got PTSD from being locked 132 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: in the bathroom after some Christmas presents were opened. But 133 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: he filed the police report, and you know, did he care. 134 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: Kept reaching out to him and saying, I just want 135 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: to talk, I just want to talk, and he ignored it. 136 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: He was like, this is insane. I'm going to let 137 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: the police handle it because I don't know what to 138 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: expect from him at this point. And he ended up 139 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: going to Connecticut with Cassie for Christmas. This was a 140 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: few days. It was like three days after the break in, 141 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: and Cassie ended up breaking up with him over this trip. 142 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: She was very concerned because Sean Colmes had threatened her 143 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 3: and had said I'm going to harm you and Scott 144 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 3: mescady kid Cuddy, and it's not going to be by 145 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: my hands. It's going to be by somebody else's hands. 146 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: I'm going to be out of the country when this happens. 147 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: He also threatened to release two sex tapes if she 148 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: didn't comply with what he said. And we found this 149 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: out because Cassie sent an email to her mother. The 150 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: subject line was titled threats and it was to her 151 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 3: mom and to Capricorn Clark where she said all of this, 152 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: and then she also testified. Cassie testified that he told 153 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: her he was going to blow up Kid Cutty's car 154 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: and that he hoped his friends would be present for this. 155 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 3: So Kid Cutty goes back to La after Cassie breaks 156 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: it off with him. Cassie goes to me Ditty secretly 157 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: in Arizona, and then it's January. It's been a month 158 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 3: since since they broke up Cassie and Kid Cutty and 159 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: he's forty five minutes from his house. Gets a call 160 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: from his assistant around six thirty am, or his dog walker, 161 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: and she tells him that his car is on fire. 162 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 3: She took pictures and he was like, what is happening? 163 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 3: And that's when he said, okay. I reached out to 164 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 3: Sean Colmes and I arranged a meeting because enough is enough. 165 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: And that's where he actually described him at the La 166 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: Soho house where he met him as a quote Marvel 167 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: super villain. He was facing the wall, he said, Diddy 168 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: with his arms behind his back, and I thought it 169 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: was kind of interesting because he made a point Kid 170 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: Cutty to say that Diddy was acting very strange. He 171 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: offered him water twice. He was very calm. He was 172 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: just like, hey, man, I'm sorry, you know, I you 173 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 3: know that cass is my girl. I just want to 174 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: work this out. I'm sorry for you know, any just 175 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: you know, any tension between us, but you know, I 176 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 3: feel like we need to talk about this. And when 177 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: the defense was doing the cross examination, he actually got 178 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: Kid Cutty to say on two different occasions that Cassie 179 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 3: quote played both he and Diddy, because you know, Cassie 180 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: and Diddy's relationship was on again, off again, and at 181 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: that point they were off, but they were still you know, 182 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: Cassie was still doing freak offs with him, and she 183 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: had told Kid Cutty that they were done. And obviously, Diddy, 184 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: you know, it's hits. It's very hypocritical, right, He's sleeping 185 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: with so many women, but Cassie can't date anyone else. 186 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,359 Speaker 3: And this is obviously my opinion, but I was surprised 187 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: that the defense actually got him to say that more 188 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: than once. So he did. Kid Cutty did say that. 189 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: At the end of the conversation, he said, hey, what 190 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: about my car, and and did he said, I don't 191 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 3: know what you're talking about. And he was like yeah, okay, 192 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 3: and then you know, they really they didn't talk at 193 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: all until a few years later. Did he was actually 194 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: at the Soho house with his daughter's Kid Cutty happened 195 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: to be there, and he said that did. He approached 196 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: him and apologized for everything that happened between them. So 197 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: it was it was pretty interesting and and Kid Cutty 198 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: was funny on the stand. He cursed a lot, and 199 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: he was very real, very clear he didn't want to 200 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: be there. 201 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, sure, yeah, but he was to 202 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: admit that happened to him. See that's the other thing 203 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: people don't get when you're especially in that lifestyle. You know, 204 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be the pimp, the hard person, the 205 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: I've done time, that I'm running, you know, my organization 206 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: kind of thing. And now you're not only having to 207 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: admit this man broke into my house. Now if that 208 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: ain't a power. Plus, hey, he's telling you I can 209 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: get to you and there's nothing you can do about it. 210 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: I'm in your house and you're not even here. 211 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that would get my attention, right, and then 212 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: your car blows up exactly. 213 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: And he also admitted on the stand, which I thought 214 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: was kind of sweet. That he loved Cassie, he fell 215 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: in love with her, and it's you know, we It's 216 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: also been kind of just very trippy to see these 217 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: photos of these celebrities on red carpets, like Cassie and Diddy, 218 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: and see these bruises on her body that were covered 219 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: up with makeup and have it be pointed out to 220 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: us now while she's got this big smile on her face, 221 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 3: you know, and then thinking about how Kid Cutty was 222 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: really heartbroken over this, and we the public, you know, 223 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: we see gossip headlines and I think gossip mags were 224 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: definitely more of a thing, I guess in twenty eleven, 225 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: twenty twelve, but this never really got out. So I 226 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: found it all to be just, you know, obviously traumatic, 227 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: but also fascinating from that perspective, you know. 228 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: Right well, you know, Stockholm syndrome is a real thing. 229 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: Battered wife syndrome is a real thing. And you know, 230 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of people say, yeah, but she 231 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: would have this horrible abuse happen. But then as for 232 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: her job back, he has a way of pulling you 233 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: back in. 234 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: That's clear. 235 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: You can even hear some of the former employees talk 236 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: about it like they thought their life was in danger 237 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: after only a couple of weeks of working for him. 238 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: Yes, and he he is clearly very charming, Cheryl. I 239 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: think that's part of why he was so successful. You 240 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 3: can even see him turn on the charm. I mean, 241 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 3: the way he reacts to not so much the press, 242 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 3: but there's a public section in the courtroom, and the 243 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: way he kind of turns around, smile at them, he 244 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: makes eye contact with them, you know, gives them that 245 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: heart symbol. It's just it's like, wow, you just see 246 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: how he was able to sort of control a lot 247 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: of people. People and the Kid Cutty testimony, just going 248 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: back to that really quickly. I think that was really 249 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: the first time that the RICO was kind of introduced 250 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: or you know, I guess something on the indictment was 251 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: kind of introduced to us, while Cassie definitely laid the 252 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: foundation there. And I believe they're trying to say that 253 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: Cassie was commercially sex trafficked. I believe so. I mean, 254 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: it's hard to tell at this point. You know who 255 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 3: they're trying to say was sex traffic, but I believe 256 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: it was Cassie. But I felt like, yeah, Kid Cutty's 257 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: testimony was the first time that I was like, oh wow, okay, 258 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 3: I get it. 259 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're starting to lay a pretty solid foundation that 260 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: everybody's testimony lines up. It all cooberates what Cassie has said. 261 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: But they've also added some things like when Dawn Richard 262 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: when she testified, she's talking about Cassie in there trying 263 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: to make breakfast, and Sean Combs comes down. 264 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: There hollered about where are my eggs? Where are my eggs? 265 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: And takes the skillet and was going to hit her 266 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: with it. 267 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, she Don Rochard did testify to that, and listen, 268 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: I have heard more violent events that happened to Cassie 269 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: through her friend, her former best friend, Carrie Morgan, as 270 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: well as her assist or I'm sorry, her celebrity stylist 271 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: Deontay Nash. I mean, I believe there were way too 272 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: many violent beatings that Cassie just couldn't even count them. 273 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: She couldn't recall all of them. So, yes, we have 274 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: other people who have witnessed these violent outbursts by Diddy 275 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: and they're telling us about it now. Don Richard, I 276 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: felt like, you know, she, I don't think she was 277 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: the best witness for the government. If I had to 278 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: give an opinion, I felt like she was one of 279 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: the weakest. She definitely, and I'm not trying to sound 280 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: harsh at all, but I felt like there was a 281 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: lot of holes poked in her testimony during cross examination 282 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: when it came to the what she told the government 283 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: in maybe eight to ten meetings and what she said 284 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: on the stand, particularly the skillet incident, which I believe happened. 285 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: That's the main thing, without a doubt. Don Rochard saw 286 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 3: what she saw, and Diddy beat Cassie because she didn't 287 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: make the eggs fast enough. It's what happened after Don 288 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: Richard said that she was threatened by Diddy and Harve 289 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: Pierre at another point. That's another bad boy exec But 290 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: Diddy said, you know what you saw between me and 291 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: cass was passion, and then apparently he added, you know, 292 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: don't tell anyone because where I come from, if you do, 293 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: people go missing or people disappear. Now, the defense just 294 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: kind of elicited the fact that she never shared that 295 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: with anyone before this death threat, because that's really important, right. 296 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: That also goes to Rico so and they pointed this out, 297 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 3: and then Don Richard actually admitted that her memory has changed, 298 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: so maybe maybe she didn't remember things as well, but 299 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 3: she also was trying to forget these memories because they 300 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: were so traumatic for her. So I mean, it's going 301 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 3: to depend on on the jury, of course, but I 302 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 3: did feel like that that was sort of a moment 303 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: for the defense to kind of shine. 304 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: Well, there's one more element there. 305 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: A lot of people do not come forward and they 306 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: don't tell things until somebody's in jail. And remember he 307 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: asked for bail over and over and over. He still 308 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: has people loyal to him. So maybe she was like, 309 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: I maybe he shouldn't say that, and maybe she thought, well, 310 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 1: I'm here now, I'm go ahead and say it. But 311 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: here's the point to me, with all of these people 312 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: that are testifying to what they saw, and this is 313 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: what I don't want anybody to miss. Sean Combs wasn't 314 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: hiding his violence. He wasn't hiding it. So there's a 315 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: lot of people. You know, you go to church and 316 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: the deacon is just fabulous, and he's charismatic and he's 317 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: very concerned, how are you everything good? If I can 318 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: do anything, let me know. You don't know what he's 319 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: like at home, same thing with a police officer and 320 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: a teacher and a salesman and the CEO of a 321 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: fortune five hundred company. You don't know, You just know 322 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: what they present in public. Most abusers can hide it, 323 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: at least for a little while. Well, he wasn't hiding 324 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: it from anybody. He punched your in the stomach at 325 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: a restaurant in front of Usher. 326 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say that. I was totally gonna 327 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 3: say that, because that was crazy when Don Richard said that. 328 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 3: I mean so many of us were like, wait, so 329 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 3: Usher knew about it. And look, we don't know if 330 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: Usher saw this with his own eyes, but it seemed 331 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: like the dinner was intimate enough based on the number 332 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: of guests she described, which were under ten guests, that 333 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: he did see something. But you're so right. I mean, 334 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: we've just got a lot of instances that people seem 335 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: to just turn the other cheek, look the other way, 336 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: and it really is so heartbreaking that he could commit 337 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: this violence against women and treat his staff like that 338 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: for for so long and get away with it. But 339 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 3: just really quickly going back to Don Richard, she you 340 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: know the testimony that was that was kind of coming 341 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: after the whole why didn't you talk about these death threats? 342 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: Was again what you kind of mentioned the fact that 343 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 3: everybody goes back and kind of asks him for work again. 344 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: And so they had pointed that out as well, that 345 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: she stopped working with him after she was a member 346 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: of Diddy Dirty Money and she didn't have as many 347 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 3: record sales as she once did, and you know, she 348 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: contacted him and nothing ever happened. So that was was 349 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 3: brought up as well, and that really does seem to 350 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 3: be a common thing. I would say, not so much 351 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: for the male personal assistance or any of the male 352 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: employees that we've heard from so far, but definitely with 353 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: the female ones, they definitely seemed to kind of go 354 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: back and actually just kidding. The celebrity stylist still contacted, 355 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: did he after he stopped working for him, but just 356 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 3: not for work, just on a personal level. 357 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: Well, he also settled a lawsuit for twenty million dollars 358 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: to make sure information didn't get out. He offered other 359 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: people money. Her friend didn't he offer her thirty grand 360 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: to not tell what she saw. 361 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 3: Oh, yes, So that and also Cheryl, we heard a 362 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: little bombshell today from Mia and I'll get there, but yes, 363 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: Carrie Morgan, Cassie's former best friend, this was a friendship 364 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: ending event. In twenty eighteen, did he bust it into 365 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: Cassie's apartment while Carrie was there, saying, you know, who's 366 00:20:55,320 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: Cassie sleeping with? Essentially, and he picked he he choked 367 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 3: Carrie Morgan or held her by the throat and then 368 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: hit her over the head with a wooden hangar. And 369 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: Carrie Morgan was, you know, she had a lawyer ready 370 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 3: and she was ready to take some action. And then 371 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 3: Cassie called her and they met at a pizza place, 372 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 3: and you know, Carrie described that their friendship ended because 373 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 3: Cassie took Diddy's side and didn't seem like this was 374 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: such a big deal. And Carrie kind of said, nope, 375 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: for me, this is where I draw the line. The 376 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 3: violence is where I draw the line. And Cassie just said, well, 377 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 3: we'd like to settle this without a lawyer. So he's 378 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 3: going to offer you thirty grand and to sign this NDA, 379 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: and Carrie said, yes. 380 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: There you go. 381 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: So again he has a pattern of trying to keep 382 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: things secret in using money to do so, and like 383 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: David James, he talked and one thing that really stuck 384 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: out for me was Okay, you went and bought drugs 385 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: for and that doesn't surprise me. I think that's probably standard. 386 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: But he talked about the rivalry we should not now 387 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: that got my attention because Should's been in prison. His 388 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: antics are well documented, holding people off the balcony by 389 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 1: their ankles, you know, being with Tupac when he was 390 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: murdered in Las Vegas. Maybe having some ties to other 391 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: folks that were doing things that were violent. But if 392 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: you're telling me Sean Combs well step two shulg night, 393 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: that tells me how violent that man can be. 394 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: Oh well, and the fact that they grabbed three guns 395 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 3: and David James said on the stand he was kind 396 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 3: of nervous because he's thinking to himself, Okay, there's three 397 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: of us, you know, d Rock, Diddy and me, and 398 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: there's three guns. So what does this mean? You could 399 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 3: tell he was he was genuinely pretty concerned in that 400 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 3: moment on the stand, reflecting back on that night, and 401 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: also the fact Cheryl that he said that he quit. 402 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 3: He gave his notice pretty much days later and they 403 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: offered him another position, like, oh, do you want to 404 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 3: work at Sean John kind of, you know, just a 405 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: completely different role to stay in the company, and he 406 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 3: was like, nope, I'm good. However, he also seemed to 407 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 3: have positive memories about Ditty as well, and they even 408 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: shared some laughs, which is so crazy to me, Like 409 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: Diddy was in his seat laughing and David James was 410 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 3: laughing as well. It was kind of like the Twilight Zone. 411 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 3: And you know that happened with the other assistant, George 412 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 3: Kaplan as well. They just shared these these moments. 413 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 2: It seemed like, well, let's talk about the guns. 414 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: One of them was an AR fifteen that had a 415 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: DEFAE serial number. Now let's talk about Wow, that would 416 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: be the case. You're talking about a millionaire. Why wouldn't 417 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: he have a legal weapon. I'll tell you because he 418 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: doesn't want that weapon to be traced back to him, 419 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: which if he bought it legally, could be. 420 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: Yes. Well, that was that came out during We had 421 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 3: Special Agent Gerard Gannon on the stand from the HSI, 422 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: who was in charge of the March twenty twenty four 423 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: raid of his Miami property to Star Island. So we 424 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: did see the AR fifteens. There's two of them that 425 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: were defaced, and we saw the photo evidence, and then 426 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: we saw them in person. And when we saw this 427 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 3: photo evidence, the AR fifteens, they were taken apart. The 428 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 3: upper barrel and the lower barrel were separated. They were 429 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 3: even in different shelves on the closet. And I believe 430 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: it was the upper barrel that there was two of 431 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: them that were wrapped in a towel. But the magazines 432 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: from the lower barrel, they were pretty much filled with bullets. 433 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: I think there may be was like three or four 434 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 3: bullets missing from one of the guns. But when they 435 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 3: showed the guns to the jury, they were put together. 436 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: The defense made sure to remind the jury Cheryl that, oh, 437 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: when you saw these photos of the guns, they were 438 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 3: not together, so you you can see what they're they're 439 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: trying to do. They're they're trying to minimize, you know, 440 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 3: these weapons. The defense also actually asked the Homeland Security agent. 441 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: They're like, well, you know, you live in Florida, I mean, 442 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 3: you own guns. Isn't it very common to own guns 443 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: in Florida? And yeah, it was just very much like okay. 444 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: Not with obliterated serial number exactly. 445 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 3: And there he also had a handgun as well. I 446 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: think it was a forty five or something like that, 447 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: which was not defaced. They made sure to tell us 448 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 3: that that was not defaced. 449 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: Who's George Kaplan? What was he about? 450 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 3: He was another assistant and we actually thought for a 451 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 3: second that he may end up pleading the fifth, But 452 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 3: it turns out that both he and David James got 453 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 3: proffer agreements because they had to testify that they did 454 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 3: speak to drug dealers to buy drugs for data. 455 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so they got immunity exactly exactly. 456 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 3: That's fair, yep. 457 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: I mean buying drugs doesn't bother me. 458 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: As much as you know, the abuse that these women 459 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: allegedly have suffered at his hands and witnessed by so 460 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: many people. 461 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. And just to point out just a hypocrisy 462 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: or a hypocritical moment, I should say, David James actually 463 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 3: testified that he grabbed the chef's wrists over something and 464 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 3: he kind of like shook her and he had to 465 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 3: go to HR and he said that Ditty said, if 466 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: you ever put your hands on a woman again, you're 467 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: out of here. I'm like, ok yeah, so I know. 468 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, who is Frank Black? 469 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 3: So that's Ditty's alias that he uses when he checks 470 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 3: into hotels. We've seen that corroborated numerous times. There's even 471 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 3: been times that he's used that to get prescription drugs. 472 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 3: And I believe it was Cassie that testified that even 473 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 3: certain DAWs let him use that name, and Biggie, I guess, 474 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: referred to himself as Frank White, So it's kind of 475 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: a play on that. 476 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, girl, what happened today Friday, May thirtieth. 477 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, So I was just going to bring this 478 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 3: up about Mia. So Mia is or was Ditty's personal assistant, 479 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 3: and then she became the director of development for Revolt TV, 480 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 3: which was a subsidiary for Revolt Films, which he owns, 481 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: and she also is very close with Cassie and she 482 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 3: actually said that she and Cassie are still like sisters. 483 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 3: So Mia is actually victim for But just to because 484 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: I brought this up. She testified during the last five 485 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: minutes of her direct examination something that I think is 486 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 3: very important. She said that d Rock, which was one 487 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: of Ditty's main security guards or yeah, bodyguards, texted her 488 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 3: about maybe a week or a few days after Cassie's 489 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 3: lawsuit dropped in November of twenty twenty three. Now, Mia 490 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 3: testified that she she didn't think that d Rock was 491 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: still employed by Ditty. However, she she figured out uh 492 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: very quickly because he told her, oh, I'm in Miami. 493 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: He texted her, I'm doing something for one of Ditty's kids. 494 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 3: So anyway, he texted her like a week after and 495 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: just said hey, Mia, like what's good or something like that, 496 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 3: and she was so excited to hear from him. She's like, hey, 497 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 3: de Rock, I miss you. What's up? And then he said, wow, 498 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 3: crazy about you know what's going on with Puff? And 499 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: he said everybody knows that Cassie and Puff just fought 500 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: like a normal couple. And that's when you know, she 501 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 3: was like, uh oh mea thought to herself, I don't 502 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: really want to be involved with this. Something's not right 503 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: here because de Rock witnessed it all and de Rock 504 00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 3: actually helped Cassie on certain occasions, so she kind of 505 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 3: just acted like played dumb. Said she didn't have service, 506 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: didn't you know, didn't really write back to him. And 507 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 3: then he said, okay, well Puff needs to talk to you, 508 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 3: and she's like ignoring him, and then he kind of 509 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: gets upset, like Mia, what's going on, why are you 510 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: not writing me back? And she said she was scuba 511 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 3: diving she didn't have service. Well, Puff ends up calling her, 512 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 3: and she says she has this reaction where she throws 513 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: her phone on the couch and runs out of her house. 514 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: And then here's from de Rock again a few days later, 515 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 3: where you know, she says, okay, he called me. I 516 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: called him back. I didn't leave a message, but I'll 517 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: just leave it at that, and she never called him back. 518 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: But then Dee Rock said, where can I send you something? 519 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: Or where you know, basically, what's your address? I need 520 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: to send you something or I'm paraphrasing, but Mia said 521 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: she took that as he wanted to send her money, 522 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: and she was certain of that and she said, no, no, 523 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 3: I'm good. Don't worry about me, like, yes, I'm in debt, 524 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 3: but you don't have to worry about it. And that 525 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: de Rock said, well, I just want to send my 526 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: sister a gift because they refer to themselves as family. 527 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: And she said no, thanks, and that was that. But 528 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: then in February of twenty twenty four, she got two 529 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 3: text messages from Sean Colmes saying, I just want to 530 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: talk to you, I hope all as well. Love, And 531 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: then the second message was, Hey, I'm just looking for 532 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: you to jog my memory a bit. You are my 533 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: right hand for so long. I'm reading from the notes 534 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: I took, and he said, I just want to remind myself. 535 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: I want you to remind me of who I was 536 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 3: around during certain time periods. So that was that was 537 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 3: a moment. She never wrote back, but I was like, 538 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 3: oh boy, I believe they are trying to show again 539 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: some more rico, some more witness intimidation. But yeah, it 540 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 3: was WF. It was crazy. 541 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,239 Speaker 2: That is so great. So who do you think is 542 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: coming next? 543 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I know that the chef Chef Jordana 544 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: is supposed to testify. I believe we're going to hear 545 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: from travel agents and people that did bookings for him Diddy, 546 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 3: and that I believe is going to be where we 547 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: kind of hear about some of the escorts that they 548 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 3: flew to different cities, because that is definitely a thing. 549 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean it's I have to tell you, 550 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 3: I can't believe it's only three. I'm like, oh, this 551 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 3: is very dark, very very dark. 552 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: So do you feel like you've heard enough that you 553 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: see a foundation being laid for Rico for sure or 554 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: do you need more? 555 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 3: I would say this week they have done a really 556 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: good job of laying the Rico foundation with Capricorn Clark 557 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: and with the There was a Arson investigator, and this 558 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 3: was the day that the defense actually moved for a mistrial. 559 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 3: They did not get one, but essentially the defense was 560 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 3: not happy with the government's line of questioning for this 561 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 3: Arson investigator because he disclosed that they were investigating the 562 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: kid Cutty Arson and they were working with the LAPD 563 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 3: who investigated the trust passing incident, and they had this 564 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 3: fingerprint card and somehow they were going to try to 565 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 3: match the DNA they got off the Molotov cocktail with 566 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 3: the print card from the trust passing incident. But the 567 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 3: print card was destroyed and they asked the Arson investigator, well, 568 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 3: did you order it to be destroyed? And you know, 569 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: he said no, and then they went on, well, is 570 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 3: it unusual that something like that that piece of evidence 571 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: would be destroyed out of the blue. Finally an objection 572 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 3: and what they were alluding to was that, you know, 573 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: Diddy ordered somebody in the LAPD to have it destroyed 574 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 3: and argued that the jury initially was so concerned about 575 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 3: celebrities and people like Diddy being able to buy their 576 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 3: way out of situations that they couldn't get this information 577 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: out of their head, you know, like this, they can't 578 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: unhear this, so we want a mistrial. The judge ended 579 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: up saying, Okay, you know the jury, no mistrial, clearly, 580 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 3: but the jury should disregard the questions and disregard the answers, 581 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 3: which they did. But but no, I felt like, you know, 582 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: the testimony from from Capricorn Clerk as well as a 583 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 3: testimony from Mia that we're hearing, I think has laid 584 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: a much better foundation. Of course, you know, we've heard 585 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 3: about a kidnapping. However, the kidnapping, you know, there was 586 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 3: a police report of this whole night, but the kidnapping 587 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 3: was not part of it. So I feel like for 588 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 3: everything that we're hearing Cheryl, when it comes to the 589 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 3: reco case, there's also a good handful of doubt as well. 590 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 3: So it really is going to depend on the jury, 591 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 3: I mean, which is obvious. But you know what I'm 592 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 3: I'm saying when I say that, like it really and 593 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 3: I've had these thoughts and I'm sorry, I'm just I'm 594 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 3: so long winded, But the jury is I mean, there's 595 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 3: three people under forty, and it looks like there's many 596 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 3: people in their sixties, someone their seventies. I have to 597 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 3: think it's going to be this generational battle. Do you 598 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying? Like, because we've seen text messages 599 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 3: from Cassie that say, I love freak offs. I never 600 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: want to stop freakoffs. I don't know if someone in 601 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 3: their seventies is going to and this is a general thing. 602 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 3: It's obviously depends on the person, but you know, if 603 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 3: they see a text message, they're going to say, oh, 604 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 3: well she said this. You know, they may not think 605 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 3: of the nuanced situation that she's in, you know, when 606 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: it comes to trauma. But it's yeah, it's gosh. I 607 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 3: know that we have a long way to go. 608 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: Do you know if there's anybody that's going to testify 609 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: that is super famous? I mean, is there somebody that's 610 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: just going to come and bring the house down? 611 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: Well, this is what's this is what's crazy. I don't 612 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 3: think that they're going to to tell us until a 613 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 3: day or two prior because we don't have a witness 614 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 3: list and what they've been doing is kind of at 615 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 3: the end of the day, they've been saying okay, you know, 616 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 3: to the government. The judge says, who's up, and then 617 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 3: we'll hear one or two people or you know, a 618 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 3: couple people that they are aiming to have for that week. 619 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: And so we really we heard about kid Cutty the 620 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 3: day before or maybe two days before. But I think 621 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 3: that's how it's going to go down. They're not going 622 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 3: to tell us until, yeah, until the week of or 623 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 3: the day before. 624 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: I would think with the case this significant, this big, 625 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: you've got to have at least one. There's no way 626 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: there's not somebody that witnessed it that Cassie knew was 627 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: in the room, that Capricorn knew was in the room, 628 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: that these ex assistants they knew. So whether it's justin. 629 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 2: Bieber or ray Ja or whoever it might be, he 630 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: had people around him twenty four seven. 631 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: And there's no way you could go to one of 632 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: those parties and miss everything. You can't miss katamaine and 633 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: peels and marijuana and somebody getting there, you know, skull 634 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: crushed the hand. 635 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 2: You can't miss all of that. 636 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 3: Well, I feel like, you know, the defense, I feel 637 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 3: like there's a good chance they'll call some character witnesses. Maybe, 638 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: so perhaps that's when they may call a celebrity. I mean, 639 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 3: and you're right, we don't know who saw what and who. 640 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 3: I mean, you're absolutely right, he partied with a lot 641 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 3: of people, and we've seen people in pictures. Just today 642 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 3: we saw Diddy with Meek Mill and the game and 643 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 3: you know, but I also want to point out something 644 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 3: the defense had pointed out because I'm trying to be 645 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 3: fair as I cover this, I'm trying to just kind 646 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 3: of you know, not offer much except for the facts. 647 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 3: But the defense pointed out, who is. 648 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: That in journalism? 649 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 3: I know, right, No, But you know me, usually my 650 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 3: mouf off, I give my opinion, but in this case, 651 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 3: I'm really trying something new here, Cheryl. No. But they 652 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 3: pointed out, you know, during the raid, at least that 653 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 3: the amount of drugs they found in Diddy's Star Island 654 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 3: home was so small that they were destroyed. So because 655 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 3: it was it was like a little baggye here, like 656 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 3: in a baggie of pills here and there, and you know, 657 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 3: for the average person, yeah, it's a lot. But I 658 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 3: guess when you're talking about possible drug trafficking, let's say, 659 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 3: or you know, it's it's It was a small amount. 660 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: To kind of prode the point I was trying to make. 661 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: One person testified that he had to clean up the 662 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: hotel room before the maid service came so that they 663 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 1: would not take pictures of what occurred during these freak offs. Well, 664 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: to me, that tells you right there, George, what was 665 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: going down. 666 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody pretty much testified, every assistant that they had 667 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 3: to clean baby oil up off the wall, off the floor, 668 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 3: off the furniture. There's candle wax everywhere. You know. They 669 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 3: had a hotel manager from the Hermitage Hotel testify, and 670 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 3: you know, he just reiterated the fact that sometimes they 671 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 3: would add one thousand dollars onto the room for a 672 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 3: deep clean, that there'd be like a weird odor coming 673 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 3: out of the room sometimes. They also they said that 674 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 3: he liked the room at I think it was like 675 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 3: seventy five, which is pretty warm. But you know, and 676 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 3: I thought about this this clip that I think it 677 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 3: was on some late night talk show where he kind 678 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 3: of said he likes for it to get warm and sweating, 679 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, you know, I just it's 680 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 3: all corroborating the same thing. However, I will offer just 681 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 3: an opinion here. I do feel like at this point, 682 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 3: right now, we do need to hear from from more 683 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 3: people about the sex trafficking because at this point I 684 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 3: don't twelve jurors unanimously agreeing that Cassie was commercially sex trafficked. 685 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 3: I think that the transportation to engage in prostitution will 686 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 3: be a very easy conviction once we hear from the 687 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 3: travel agents and possibly the escort that traveled with them. 688 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 3: But I do think at this point it's going to 689 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 3: be difficult unless they get you know, we hear from 690 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,959 Speaker 3: the Jane victim who is supposed to testify. That's victim too, 691 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 3: I believe. 692 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: All right, Well, the only issue I have is when 693 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: you said people in their sixties and seventies may not 694 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: understand the nuances. I will read text messages I sent 695 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: to Walt right now, and that was. 696 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 3: No, and I feel that I'm not. I guess I'm 697 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 3: not saying it like that because I. 698 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: Know I'm just tasing with you. 699 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 3: I'm just chasing, so I don't want to offend anyone. 700 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 3: But I'm just thinking of my parents, for example, and 701 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 3: how you know, if they see somebody say something in 702 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 3: a text message enough times, they're probably gonna just go 703 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 3: with what the person said. And again that's not for everybody. 704 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 3: But I am staring at this jury and I'm like, 705 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 3: just make an expression. I just want to know what 706 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 3: you're thinking. 707 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: Well, I think there is some level of who would 708 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: do that. I mean, you think you have all of 709 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: this money and this is what he's doing with it, 710 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: harming people, threatening people, hurting people. So, you know, I 711 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: think that from what I can understand that you're saying, 712 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: the jury's at least paying attention. They're watching him, they're 713 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: watching the people on the stand, and they're taking it seriously. 714 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 1: And I think whether there's a generation gap, you know, 715 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: maybe understanding. Maybe they don't know him, maybe they don't 716 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: know his music. But again, the testimony, the video, you 717 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: can't miss that. 718 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, exactly, And I think that with the witnesses 719 00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 3: this week, they are paying very close attention. It's it's 720 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 3: been uh yeah, it's it's been very very interesting this 721 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: week and very gripping, very traumatic, and very dark. 722 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you. You have been doing stellar work. 723 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: I mean, on your feet outside in the rain, the cold, 724 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: the heat, the wind, it's been remarkable to watch. So 725 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: thank you so much, because if it weren't for you 726 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: and others, you know, we wouldn't know what was going on. 727 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 3: Ah, well, thank you so much. I really, I really 728 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 3: appreciate you, Cheryl, honestly, and I'm very excited for this 729 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 3: trial to be over. 730 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure. 731 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: Well we'll have you owned toward the end and we 732 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: can recap and you can you know, maybe we can. 733 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: Talk as the jury's out. That would be fun. 734 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that would be so fun. 735 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Lauren Conlin. 736 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, and I'm gonna end Zone seven the 737 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: way that I always do with a quote, mix me 738 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: with violence, blend me with peace, combine me with hate. 739 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 1: I can't face defeat, Sean Combs. I'm Cheryl McCollum, and 740 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: this is Zone seven.