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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreger is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another episode of the Peter Schreger Podcast. A little later

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Speaker 1: in the week than usual. And there's a reason for that.

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Speaker 1: I was traveling on Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: I cannot share the reason why yet, Aaron, my producer,

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Speaker 1: Aaron wankoffin, Does that get you intrigued that I have

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Speaker 1: to be talk secret about this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I don't. I mean my nice share my eyes were

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Speaker 3: as big as dinner plates there. I mean that that's

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Speaker 3: like the oldest person phrase I've ever used.

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Speaker 1: I think, just as old as my eyes were as

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Speaker 1: wide as dinner plates.

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Speaker 2: Can't share?

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Speaker 1: Is that some teas?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well I'm speechless. Yeah, okay, I'm going to speculate.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you two things honest cannot share

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Speaker 1: why And here is things signed paperwork saying I cannot

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Speaker 1: talk about what went down in Los Angeles. Number two,

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Speaker 1: not NFL related? Is your head going nuts? Are your

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Speaker 1: eyes as wide as dinners?

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Speaker 3: They're they're larger than serving balls. Now not NFL related.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to guess let's just go Okay. So

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Speaker 1: I get to LA on Sunday. And the reason I

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Speaker 1: was flying out was because of something that was going

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Speaker 1: on on Monday. And as I'm with my family and

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Speaker 1: one of the last weekends we'll have together as a

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Speaker 1: family unit before I start trekking off to Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: every weekend for Fox. The people who were flying me in,

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Speaker 1: so someone else paid for this flight so it is professional,

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Speaker 1: said can you come in Saturday because the worst hurricane

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Speaker 1: coming and we want to make sure your flight's not canceled.

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Speaker 1: I rolled the dice. I said, Nope, I'm getting my Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I'm staying with my family. My son had baseball in

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Speaker 1: the morning, then we went to the driving range. Later

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Speaker 1: we had a great All American Saturday. And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing it a flyout Sunday morning. Flyout Sunday morning,

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Speaker 1: get on the plane, and you would think it's mass

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Speaker 1: hysteria on this plane of all the LA people who

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: And I'm not minimizing it because I was nervous too.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, we're flying through a hurricane. They're like,

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Speaker 1: we're flying through a hurricane. Let's roll take off. We

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Speaker 1: get in and it's pouring rain. It's the rain is legit.

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Speaker 1: But you know we live in here. I am a

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Speaker 1: tough guy in New York, Bravado. I live in New York.

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Speaker 1: Like well that like the rainstorm, eternal local news and

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Speaker 1: they've got all the local correspondents out there and there,

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Speaker 1: you know, the biggest weather event. Da fine. As I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting there pooh poohing this hurricane quote unquote, the entire

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Speaker 1: hotel room just goes. I'm like, what. I look to

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Speaker 1: It shook. There's a pen on the nightstand. The pen

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Speaker 1: fell off the nightstand. I'm like, holy crap, that was

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Speaker 1: an earthquake, Aaron, I was in an earthquake.

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Speaker 3: Had you been in one before? Or is this your

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Speaker 3: first earthquake?

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Speaker 1: I've been in one before, but I didn't necessarily feel it.

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Speaker 1: This one was legit, this one, and like, what's your

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Speaker 1: first inclination? Like, what do you do if you're so?

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Speaker 1: The first thing I do if this tell everyone tells

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Speaker 1: you that Twitter's dead and Elon musk is awful and

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. Ignore them, because the very first thing

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Speaker 1: I did in a natural disaster was to run to

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Speaker 1: my phone on Twitter, and sure enough, every single LA

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Speaker 1: they don't feel that. It was a five point one,

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Speaker 1: which sounds legit. I'm not a Richter scale guy. I

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Speaker 1: know about the Richter scale tests. But it was legit.

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Speaker 1: And it was a hurricane and an earthquake all at

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Speaker 1: the same time. And the jokes were hilarious because i mean,

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Speaker 1: I survived, It was all right. But the jokes were

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Speaker 1: like this and this has like series finale vibes. That

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Speaker 1: The other one was, you know, there's a writer's strike

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Uh, it was nuts. So then it was

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Speaker 1: Tuesday morning and they asked me like, what would you ratherfy.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I changed my plans. I'm like, I'll

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Speaker 1: go Tuesday morning. I text Cliff Kingsbury, who's the former

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, I'm in LA. He's now. It's funny.

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Speaker 1: He's an offensive consultant for USC. So he's working with

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Speaker 1: For Cliff, he's doing that. But I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 1: they recognize Cliff. And Aaron Dude is like, are you

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Speaker 1: And his yeah, exactly. I said, get out of here.

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Speaker 1: The love was real, felt great. Went to the airport

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Speaker 1: and Tuesday night whatever, get home, No big deal. Actually

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Speaker 1: our interview. I watched The Proceige. I'd never seen it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it was great, it was great. Watched it, and then

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Speaker 1: watch the YouTube explainer afterwards to this, like put it

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Speaker 1: all together, too awesome, But that's not important. Wednesday, do

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Speaker 1: NFL on Wednesday, and I think maybe I'll hit it

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Speaker 1: take it easy. Wednesday night. This happens. This is why

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Speaker 1: got a text from a dude named Adam, who I'm

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Speaker 1: and he's cool. He's like, Yo, I've got two great

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Speaker 1: all access tickets to Dave Chappelle at the Garden if

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Speaker 1: Chappelle at the Garden. Now, if you're not familiar, Chappelle's

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Speaker 1: Chappelle is bringing on musical ass. Last night was his

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Speaker 1: heads prevail. I'm gonna say no, Aaron, I don't go Chappelle.

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Speaker 1: Last Night, John Stewart, Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, The Roots,

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the couch, it's six o'clock and my

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Speaker 1: I just said no to Chappelle. I've got the mess

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Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, let's go. I meet him. We

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Speaker 1: head over to Lucali. Line is fifty deep. He works

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Speaker 1: for the Nets. We walked to the front. Naturally, there's

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Speaker 1: out who runs Lukali legendary guy. If you watch Netflix

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Speaker 1: Let's talk, let's go through the list, like whatever. And

422
00:22:12,826 --> 00:22:14,346
Speaker 1: you were cool to me then and we've been friends

423
00:22:14,386 --> 00:22:16,826
Speaker 1: ever since. And now I see you as the coach

424
00:22:16,866 --> 00:22:19,266
Speaker 1: of Arizona in this hot program that everyone's talking about

425
00:22:19,266 --> 00:22:21,266
Speaker 1: and just straight up from the top. Couldn't be happier

426
00:22:21,266 --> 00:22:21,706
Speaker 1: for you. Man.

427
00:22:21,906 --> 00:22:24,466
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that, man, And I remember I remember.

428
00:22:24,546 --> 00:22:26,706
Speaker 2: I think our friend Tony Sorrentino was the one that

429
00:22:26,826 --> 00:22:29,386
Speaker 2: introduced us. And you know, his dad was my high

430
00:22:29,426 --> 00:22:31,346
Speaker 2: school coach, and I brought up to about three different

431
00:22:31,386 --> 00:22:35,266
Speaker 2: places throughout my spots and he's doing great now with

432
00:22:35,306 --> 00:22:37,066
Speaker 2: the Vikings. But it was great to meet you then,

433
00:22:37,106 --> 00:22:40,586
Speaker 2: and obviously we've had so many opportunities to be together

434
00:22:40,626 --> 00:22:42,626
Speaker 2: throughout the year, so it's been great. Yeah.

435
00:22:42,666 --> 00:22:44,706
Speaker 1: So if the listeners are like I know that name

436
00:22:44,826 --> 00:22:46,626
Speaker 1: and I remember him on this team or that team,

437
00:22:46,866 --> 00:22:48,586
Speaker 1: I thought this would be a cool exercise because we

438
00:22:48,626 --> 00:22:51,706
Speaker 1: always talk about the life of a coach and what

439
00:22:51,746 --> 00:22:54,986
Speaker 1: that means. And some coaches are fortunate to be in

440
00:22:55,026 --> 00:22:56,986
Speaker 1: the same place for twenty years and that's it. And

441
00:22:57,026 --> 00:23:01,906
Speaker 1: other coaches are going up the ladder and constantly, you know,

442
00:23:02,146 --> 00:23:05,746
Speaker 1: being forced to uproot their families but also tackle new opportunities.

443
00:23:05,826 --> 00:23:08,306
Speaker 1: I think you're coaching resume might be the most fascinating

444
00:23:08,346 --> 00:23:11,866
Speaker 1: coaching resume in the history of the sports edit. And

445
00:23:11,906 --> 00:23:14,346
Speaker 1: I say that because you're my friend, and I know

446
00:23:15,066 --> 00:23:17,906
Speaker 1: when you're like, I'm actually getting an opportunity here or here,

447
00:23:17,906 --> 00:23:19,746
Speaker 1: and I'm like, God, add that to the list, can

448
00:23:19,786 --> 00:23:22,986
Speaker 1: you fit? Listeners, take us through your resume, starting with

449
00:23:23,186 --> 00:23:25,666
Speaker 1: your first gig out of college when you went to

450
00:23:25,666 --> 00:23:27,106
Speaker 1: the University of Florida.

451
00:23:27,266 --> 00:23:30,306
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I mean it's certainly unique. I don't know

452
00:23:30,346 --> 00:23:32,266
Speaker 2: how much time we have, but I know the biggest

453
00:23:32,266 --> 00:23:36,066
Speaker 2: thing for me is every decision that I made in

454
00:23:36,146 --> 00:23:39,346
Speaker 2: coaching was I didn't believe I was just a teacher,

455
00:23:39,386 --> 00:23:42,386
Speaker 2: but I believe I was also a student throughout my

456
00:23:42,506 --> 00:23:45,386
Speaker 2: all of my decisions. So you know, I got the

457
00:23:45,426 --> 00:23:47,786
Speaker 2: University of Florida, and I went there to learn how

458
00:23:47,786 --> 00:23:49,586
Speaker 2: to coach football. That was the only reason why I

459
00:23:49,666 --> 00:23:52,586
Speaker 2: chose Florida. Steve Spurrier was the head coach. He was

460
00:23:52,586 --> 00:23:55,386
Speaker 2: the best in my opinion, and probably there wasn't really

461
00:23:55,386 --> 00:23:58,026
Speaker 2: an opinion at that point in the nineties that he

462
00:23:58,066 --> 00:24:00,786
Speaker 2: was the best college coach in the country. And I said,

463
00:24:00,786 --> 00:24:01,986
Speaker 2: I'm going to figure out a way to get work

464
00:24:01,986 --> 00:24:05,226
Speaker 2: from for him. And whatever it took. It took everything

465
00:24:05,986 --> 00:24:08,906
Speaker 2: in my power, from notes on his car door to

466
00:24:09,386 --> 00:24:11,946
Speaker 2: trying to become an equipment manager and everything in between

467
00:24:12,066 --> 00:24:14,626
Speaker 2: to finally be allowed in the building and became a

468
00:24:14,666 --> 00:24:17,626
Speaker 2: GA at Florida and was a GA at Florida and

469
00:24:18,546 --> 00:24:24,146
Speaker 2: ninety nine through one, and then after that Dom Capers

470
00:24:24,346 --> 00:24:27,786
Speaker 2: was at Jacksonville and Dom Capers became the head coach

471
00:24:27,866 --> 00:24:31,026
Speaker 2: of the Houston Texas and they started a franchise and

472
00:24:31,106 --> 00:24:33,626
Speaker 2: he called Coach Furrier and he said, Hey, I need

473
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Speaker 2: a GA, someone that I could pay twenty five grand

474
00:24:37,026 --> 00:24:39,666
Speaker 2: to make him a quality control coach who wants to

475
00:24:39,746 --> 00:24:43,826
Speaker 2: learn how to build a program from scratch. And somehow,

476
00:24:43,906 --> 00:24:46,346
Speaker 2: some way, maybe the other ten guys coach Berrier recommended,

477
00:24:46,346 --> 00:24:48,546
Speaker 2: they didn't want to take it, but I got it.

478
00:24:49,546 --> 00:24:51,666
Speaker 2: I interviewed for the job, I got the job and

479
00:24:52,146 --> 00:24:55,866
Speaker 2: spent three years with Coach Capers in Houston and first

480
00:24:55,906 --> 00:24:59,106
Speaker 2: year no team. It was just Dom Capers Christmas.

481
00:24:59,146 --> 00:25:01,146
Speaker 1: Now that's cool. So you had the organ you had

482
00:25:01,146 --> 00:25:02,946
Speaker 1: the franchise, but we still have another year to We're

483
00:25:02,986 --> 00:25:03,506
Speaker 1: playing games.

484
00:25:03,546 --> 00:25:05,586
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. It was just the coolest thing.

485
00:25:05,626 --> 00:25:07,546
Speaker 1: So you're truly build bilding an expansion franchise.

486
00:25:07,546 --> 00:25:11,066
Speaker 2: I got there in April. We had eight months. We

487
00:25:11,106 --> 00:25:14,786
Speaker 2: had no staff members other than Dom Capers, Chris Palmer

488
00:25:15,306 --> 00:25:19,946
Speaker 2: and myself and Charlie Cashley the GM and I spent

489
00:25:20,066 --> 00:25:23,306
Speaker 2: every Sunday in Don Caper's couch at his house watching

490
00:25:23,386 --> 00:25:25,866
Speaker 2: all the pro football games. I mean, you can't, you

491
00:25:25,946 --> 00:25:28,346
Speaker 2: can't get better. So the year comes to an ad

492
00:25:28,386 --> 00:25:29,746
Speaker 2: and he says, well, what side of the ball do

493
00:25:29,746 --> 00:25:32,266
Speaker 2: you want to be on? Offense or defense? And I said, coach,

494
00:25:32,306 --> 00:25:34,306
Speaker 2: I'm twenty four years old. You tell me what side

495
00:25:34,306 --> 00:25:36,266
Speaker 2: of the ball should I be on? Right now? He said,

496
00:25:36,266 --> 00:25:37,906
Speaker 2: where do you want to finish your career? I said, well,

497
00:25:37,946 --> 00:25:39,746
Speaker 2: I want to be a head coach and offensive coordinator.

498
00:25:39,786 --> 00:25:41,626
Speaker 2: He said, okay, I'm going to put you on defense.

499
00:25:42,266 --> 00:25:43,506
Speaker 1: Yes, let's learn that first.

500
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Speaker 2: Let's learn that first. So Vic Fangio was the defensive

501
00:25:47,426 --> 00:25:50,626
Speaker 2: coordinator and I spent two years as his defensive quality

502
00:25:50,626 --> 00:25:54,506
Speaker 2: control coach, learning it from the studs, truly building it.

503
00:25:55,026 --> 00:25:58,226
Speaker 2: And then after three years, Brian Billick called from Baltimore

504
00:25:58,306 --> 00:26:01,906
Speaker 2: Ravens and David Shaw was on that staff and they

505
00:26:01,946 --> 00:26:02,746
Speaker 2: wanted to hire him.

506
00:26:02,946 --> 00:26:06,226
Speaker 1: Already, these names here, you're mentioning Brian Billick, super bowing

507
00:26:06,266 --> 00:26:08,386
Speaker 1: and coach David Shaw one of the best college coaches

508
00:26:08,466 --> 00:26:11,666
Speaker 1: last twenty years. Dom Caper's basically the godfather of the

509
00:26:11,706 --> 00:26:14,066
Speaker 1: three four defense. I mean, you're just naming names and

510
00:26:14,346 --> 00:26:15,346
Speaker 1: we're just getting started, all right.

511
00:26:15,426 --> 00:26:17,866
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just wild, you know. And Vic was just

512
00:26:18,226 --> 00:26:20,746
Speaker 2: you know, we all know Vic, like he's the talk

513
00:26:20,826 --> 00:26:24,066
Speaker 2: of the town still, you know. And so I'm with

514
00:26:24,186 --> 00:26:27,266
Speaker 2: coach Billick, and so I take the job, and I

515
00:26:27,386 --> 00:26:29,506
Speaker 2: told coach Caper's, you know, it's time to get on offense.

516
00:26:29,586 --> 00:26:32,426
Speaker 2: This is a chance to get on offense. And spent

517
00:26:32,546 --> 00:26:35,106
Speaker 2: four years with the Ravens and I really thought, you know,

518
00:26:35,226 --> 00:26:37,826
Speaker 2: you mentioned those like coaches that have those long tenures.

519
00:26:37,866 --> 00:26:40,786
Speaker 2: I mean I was twenty seven something like that, twenty

520
00:26:40,826 --> 00:26:43,346
Speaker 2: eight at that time, and I was like, oh, this

521
00:26:43,426 --> 00:26:47,026
Speaker 2: is gonna be great. Four years, five years, we're winning,

522
00:26:47,106 --> 00:26:49,586
Speaker 2: We're thirteen and three. Now I'm the quarterback coach, coach,

523
00:26:49,626 --> 00:26:52,826
Speaker 2: and Steve McNair, you know, this is like this was gold,

524
00:26:53,146 --> 00:26:56,626
Speaker 2: This was gold. And we go thirteen and three and

525
00:26:56,666 --> 00:26:59,586
Speaker 2: oh six. We lose to the Colts in a playoff game,

526
00:26:59,626 --> 00:27:02,106
Speaker 2: fifteen to six. We throw five interceptions, We don't have

527
00:27:02,146 --> 00:27:04,986
Speaker 2: a good game. And the next year we have injury

528
00:27:05,026 --> 00:27:08,786
Speaker 2: after injury from Todd heat to McNair to Jamal to whatever,

529
00:27:09,146 --> 00:27:10,786
Speaker 2: and we get let go at the end of the year.

530
00:27:11,386 --> 00:27:14,106
Speaker 2: And I was in shock and I didn't know anything

531
00:27:14,146 --> 00:27:18,626
Speaker 2: about it. And Mike Shanahan called and Mike Shanahan was

532
00:27:18,666 --> 00:27:20,426
Speaker 2: the as we all know, the head coach of the

533
00:27:20,466 --> 00:27:25,146
Speaker 2: Broncos and offered me the wide receiver coach. So I

534
00:27:25,266 --> 00:27:27,626
Speaker 2: go to Denver. So now pick up the family. We

535
00:27:27,706 --> 00:27:29,426
Speaker 2: go to Denver. But again it's like, I'm going to

536
00:27:29,466 --> 00:27:31,666
Speaker 2: work for Mike Shannan. I'll be here for the next decade.

537
00:27:32,186 --> 00:27:33,826
Speaker 1: I gotta do this, I gotta do it.

538
00:27:33,946 --> 00:27:36,746
Speaker 2: And he's the most stable coaching coaching at that time,

539
00:27:36,866 --> 00:27:39,626
Speaker 2: right Brian got fired up for ten years. Now it's Mike.

540
00:27:40,226 --> 00:27:42,386
Speaker 2: So I go there and it's like, this is gonna

541
00:27:42,386 --> 00:27:45,666
Speaker 2: be great. And I have Brandon Marshall. Yeah, we draft

542
00:27:45,826 --> 00:27:46,346
Speaker 2: Eddie Royal.

543
00:27:46,666 --> 00:27:49,266
Speaker 1: We draft Eddie Royal, loved Eddie Royle.

544
00:27:49,346 --> 00:27:53,426
Speaker 2: Oh god. Brandon Stokely was our slot and Darryl Jackson,

545
00:27:53,466 --> 00:27:55,546
Speaker 2: who I was with at Florida was our four.

546
00:27:56,026 --> 00:27:58,466
Speaker 1: So I'm like this from Seattle, Sure and Cutler.

547
00:27:58,706 --> 00:28:01,346
Speaker 2: Then we had color right, Okay. So we go to

548
00:28:01,466 --> 00:28:03,866
Speaker 2: Denver and we have the number one offense in the NFL.

549
00:28:04,026 --> 00:28:08,586
Speaker 2: We go eight and five through Game thirteen, and then

550
00:28:08,706 --> 00:28:11,186
Speaker 2: we need to win one or someone needs to lose one,

551
00:28:11,226 --> 00:28:15,066
Speaker 2: and we're in the playoffs. We lose all three and Fluke,

552
00:28:15,346 --> 00:28:17,746
Speaker 2: you know, miss a field goal. I remember.

553
00:28:18,106 --> 00:28:20,226
Speaker 1: I remember the New Year's game. I remember they missed

554
00:28:20,226 --> 00:28:20,986
Speaker 1: the field goal at the end.

555
00:28:21,466 --> 00:28:24,626
Speaker 2: It was crazy, man. So next thing, you know, I'm like,

556
00:28:24,666 --> 00:28:26,866
Speaker 2: all right, well, whatever it is a Nate, We'll got

557
00:28:26,946 --> 00:28:29,266
Speaker 2: to get better next year. And then make a coaching

558
00:28:29,386 --> 00:28:32,186
Speaker 2: change in Denver for the first time in what seventeen years,

559
00:28:32,546 --> 00:28:34,706
Speaker 2: I forget, and I'm like, this is the great one

560
00:28:34,706 --> 00:28:37,586
Speaker 2: of This is one of the iconic coaches in this profession,

561
00:28:37,866 --> 00:28:38,586
Speaker 2: and as we've.

562
00:28:38,586 --> 00:28:42,266
Speaker 1: Especially synonymous with Denver too, Like you figure he's the

563
00:28:42,306 --> 00:28:44,426
Speaker 1: Supreme Court justice. He decides when he wants to leave.

564
00:28:44,466 --> 00:28:46,506
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as you and I have learned, look at

565
00:28:46,546 --> 00:28:48,266
Speaker 2: his tree, right, I mean, who do you talk to

566
00:28:48,386 --> 00:28:50,626
Speaker 2: all the time, right from Sean to Kyle to Matt

567
00:28:50,706 --> 00:28:53,026
Speaker 2: to you name him, right, they all went through it.

568
00:28:53,626 --> 00:28:56,506
Speaker 2: So but anyway, it winds up opening up. And at

569
00:28:56,546 --> 00:28:58,586
Speaker 2: that time, I'm like, okay, well, now you got to

570
00:28:58,626 --> 00:29:01,866
Speaker 2: figure out what you're gonna do next. And I got

571
00:29:01,946 --> 00:29:03,906
Speaker 2: a call to be the offensive coordinator at the University

572
00:29:03,946 --> 00:29:06,866
Speaker 2: of Minnesota, and I'm like, all right, well done, I've

573
00:29:06,866 --> 00:29:09,426
Speaker 2: paid my dues. I'm now a Big ten offensive coordinator.

574
00:29:09,506 --> 00:29:12,186
Speaker 2: I'm only twenty nine or thirty. At that thirty, I'm like,

575
00:29:12,226 --> 00:29:15,106
Speaker 2: I got to take it. So I go to Minnesota

576
00:29:15,146 --> 00:29:18,946
Speaker 2: coach Eric Decker, coach Adam Weber, get to a bowl game,

577
00:29:19,666 --> 00:29:22,146
Speaker 2: and I'm like, all right, this is sweet. This was fun.

578
00:29:22,186 --> 00:29:26,706
Speaker 2: I loved it, Amber loved it. And my phone rings

579
00:29:26,906 --> 00:29:33,506
Speaker 2: and it's Pete Carroll and I loved Pete's like, hey, Jed,

580
00:29:33,546 --> 00:29:37,186
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll here, I'm like, you know, checking my phone.

581
00:29:37,266 --> 00:29:39,626
Speaker 2: I'm like, let me see this one more time, you know,

582
00:29:39,746 --> 00:29:41,706
Speaker 2: and he goes, I just took the job because he

583
00:29:41,786 --> 00:29:44,386
Speaker 2: was at USC you know forever, you know, and he

584
00:29:44,546 --> 00:29:46,706
Speaker 2: was never leaving and he was in his and he goes,

585
00:29:46,746 --> 00:29:48,306
Speaker 2: I just took the job of the Seattle Seahawks. I

586
00:29:48,346 --> 00:29:50,826
Speaker 2: want you to come here as a quarterback coach. And

587
00:29:50,906 --> 00:29:54,266
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, Well I got home. I called Amber.

588
00:29:54,306 --> 00:29:56,426
Speaker 2: I said, I know, I told you we weren't moved,

589
00:29:56,466 --> 00:29:59,706
Speaker 2: and everything's good because it's been like move move now right.

590
00:30:00,266 --> 00:30:04,546
Speaker 2: I'm like, but like, Mount Rushmore just called, you know, seriously,

591
00:30:05,066 --> 00:30:08,306
Speaker 2: I said, the guys, I go, we just left Mike

592
00:30:08,986 --> 00:30:11,986
Speaker 2: a year ago coach, and now the next face on

593
00:30:12,106 --> 00:30:14,626
Speaker 2: the Mount Rushmore just called and he wants us to

594
00:30:14,666 --> 00:30:17,506
Speaker 2: go to Seattle with him in year one. You know, bab,

595
00:30:17,626 --> 00:30:19,626
Speaker 2: this is one of those great opportunities year one with

596
00:30:19,746 --> 00:30:23,586
Speaker 2: the best. So I go, So we go, and we

597
00:30:23,706 --> 00:30:25,146
Speaker 2: have that year that we go seven to nine, but

598
00:30:25,226 --> 00:30:26,426
Speaker 2: go to the second round of the playoffs.

599
00:30:27,026 --> 00:30:28,026
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're the the Beast.

600
00:30:28,066 --> 00:30:31,786
Speaker 2: The Beast game and beat the Saints who won the

601
00:30:31,826 --> 00:30:35,146
Speaker 2: Super Bowl the year before, and hassle back through like

602
00:30:35,466 --> 00:30:38,066
Speaker 2: six tugs in that game where five he was playing up.

603
00:30:38,506 --> 00:30:41,146
Speaker 1: It was one of those Brandon Stokely you guy, yeah,

604
00:30:42,386 --> 00:30:42,546
Speaker 1: you know.

605
00:30:42,546 --> 00:30:45,906
Speaker 2: And I'm coaching at quarterbacks and that's amazing and brought stokely.

606
00:30:45,986 --> 00:30:47,786
Speaker 2: We brought you, tried to bring Brandon and he went

607
00:30:47,826 --> 00:30:51,426
Speaker 2: to Chicago. But anyway, so go there. And at the

608
00:30:51,506 --> 00:30:53,346
Speaker 2: end of the season they let go of Jeremy bis

609
00:30:54,466 --> 00:30:57,906
Speaker 2: And Jeremy Bates was like my best friend in this profession.

610
00:30:57,866 --> 00:30:59,186
Speaker 1: And he was the offensive coordinator.

611
00:30:59,186 --> 00:31:01,226
Speaker 2: He was the offensive coordinator. He was with me at

612
00:31:01,266 --> 00:31:04,786
Speaker 2: Denver and now Seattle. And when Pete spoke to me,

613
00:31:04,826 --> 00:31:08,226
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, do you want to be the

614
00:31:08,266 --> 00:31:10,386
Speaker 2: office And I said, I can't do that. I said,

615
00:31:10,386 --> 00:31:14,386
Speaker 2: I don't feel comfortable with that. I said, Jeremy's my guy,

616
00:31:15,186 --> 00:31:17,266
Speaker 2: and I really don't want to stay and work for

617
00:31:17,346 --> 00:31:19,346
Speaker 2: somebody else when I know I probably could have been it,

618
00:31:20,186 --> 00:31:22,666
Speaker 2: but I didn't want to, you know, take the drink

619
00:31:22,666 --> 00:31:25,386
Speaker 2: at it. It was a weird dynamic because I loved it.

620
00:31:25,506 --> 00:31:27,986
Speaker 2: I loved Pete and I and he said, well, let

621
00:31:28,026 --> 00:31:30,906
Speaker 2: me give you he goes. If that's the case. You know,

622
00:31:31,266 --> 00:31:33,506
Speaker 2: my son just went to the University of Miami as

623
00:31:33,506 --> 00:31:35,306
Speaker 2: a tight end coach. They need an offensive coordinator.

624
00:31:35,866 --> 00:31:36,666
Speaker 1: This is amazing.

625
00:31:37,546 --> 00:31:41,586
Speaker 2: So I'm like, whoa the you? I'm a Jersey guy.

626
00:31:41,666 --> 00:31:44,666
Speaker 1: You know, Like there's a lot of there's a lot

627
00:31:44,706 --> 00:31:46,306
Speaker 1: of procedure with that logo in Jersey.

628
00:31:46,466 --> 00:31:49,786
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that. My brother went to University of Miami,

629
00:31:51,386 --> 00:31:53,146
Speaker 2: you know, back in the day during the thirty for

630
00:31:53,266 --> 00:31:56,146
Speaker 2: thirty and like immediately my brain went thirty for thirty

631
00:31:56,666 --> 00:32:00,386
Speaker 2: and immediately my brain went like Dennis ericson Jimmy Johnson.

632
00:32:01,146 --> 00:32:05,026
Speaker 1: Hi, we're wearing the commando outfits off the plane taking

633
00:32:05,106 --> 00:32:05,826
Speaker 1: on Penn State.

634
00:32:05,906 --> 00:32:07,826
Speaker 2: I know. And I was ready to go Camo on

635
00:32:07,906 --> 00:32:10,666
Speaker 2: the plane. Bro. Like that was so I'm like, you

636
00:32:10,746 --> 00:32:13,066
Speaker 2: know what, I just don't want to do it. I

637
00:32:13,146 --> 00:32:14,946
Speaker 2: don't want to take my best friend. I don't want

638
00:32:15,026 --> 00:32:17,946
Speaker 2: my best friend's job. I get it, and it was weird,

639
00:32:18,386 --> 00:32:20,266
Speaker 2: but I took it. I went to University of Miami

640
00:32:20,346 --> 00:32:22,626
Speaker 2: and loved it. Man loved it, and we got good

641
00:32:22,666 --> 00:32:23,226
Speaker 2: on offense.

642
00:32:23,546 --> 00:32:24,706
Speaker 1: Who was the head coach, Al.

643
00:32:24,706 --> 00:32:25,826
Speaker 2: Golden in his first year?

644
00:32:25,906 --> 00:32:27,626
Speaker 1: Oh cool? Yeah? Yeah, So we had.

645
00:32:27,666 --> 00:32:32,706
Speaker 2: Philip dor Set, Travis Benjamin Lamar, Miller, Mike James, j

646
00:32:32,826 --> 00:32:35,586
Speaker 2: Corey Harritt. I mean it was a blast right college football,

647
00:32:35,746 --> 00:32:40,706
Speaker 2: iconic names of you know athletes, Sean Spence. So we

648
00:32:40,866 --> 00:32:44,506
Speaker 2: go there, spent two years there and going into our

649
00:32:44,586 --> 00:32:47,706
Speaker 2: third year, Gus Bradley, who I coached within Seattle becomes

650
00:32:47,746 --> 00:32:52,266
Speaker 2: the head coach Jasville and yeah, you know thon Rings

651
00:32:52,946 --> 00:32:55,266
Speaker 2: and it's like, Jed, you know, I want you to

652
00:32:55,306 --> 00:32:57,746
Speaker 2: be the offensive coordinator here. I just got the job.

653
00:32:58,226 --> 00:33:01,266
Speaker 2: You know, Mikaylic just called Amber we can all do

654
00:33:01,346 --> 00:33:05,026
Speaker 2: this together, be amazing defensive head coach. And I'm like, yeah,

655
00:33:05,066 --> 00:33:06,586
Speaker 2: I mean this is what you work for, right, go

656
00:33:06,666 --> 00:33:09,906
Speaker 2: be an NFL offensive coordinator. I go there, and we

657
00:33:10,066 --> 00:33:12,666
Speaker 2: just weren't very good. You know. Just the bottom line is,

658
00:33:12,906 --> 00:33:16,146
Speaker 2: for whatever reason it didn't click. We weren't as good

659
00:33:16,186 --> 00:33:18,026
Speaker 2: as I wanted us to be. We weren't as good

660
00:33:18,026 --> 00:33:21,346
Speaker 2: as anyone wanted anyone to be, whether it be we

661
00:33:21,426 --> 00:33:24,186
Speaker 2: didn't have the players, the coaching, whatever it might be.

662
00:33:24,266 --> 00:33:27,066
Speaker 2: I didn't do a good enough job. And after two years,

663
00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:30,786
Speaker 2: the humble pill hit, and you know, and for the

664
00:33:30,906 --> 00:33:34,346
Speaker 2: first time I was fined. Right like other times I've

665
00:33:34,386 --> 00:33:37,426
Speaker 2: had to deal with maybe a coach, head coach, yep,

666
00:33:37,546 --> 00:33:40,146
Speaker 2: but you know, I got called in and Gus was like, hey,

667
00:33:40,146 --> 00:33:42,026
Speaker 2: we got to make a change, and you know, and

668
00:33:42,146 --> 00:33:44,306
Speaker 2: I said, I get it. You know, we're playing with

669
00:33:44,346 --> 00:33:47,066
Speaker 2: the rookie quarterback and rookie receivers. But that's you know,

670
00:33:47,226 --> 00:33:49,706
Speaker 2: that's excuses. So I had a you know, for the

671
00:33:49,786 --> 00:33:52,786
Speaker 2: real it was really the first time that I was like, whoa, yeah,

672
00:33:52,826 --> 00:33:56,066
Speaker 2: you know it's I was what was I fourteenth thirty?

673
00:33:56,106 --> 00:33:59,506
Speaker 2: I was forty exactly for it, and now you're like,

674
00:33:59,586 --> 00:34:02,986
Speaker 2: oh my god, what happens. So luckily there was people

675
00:34:03,066 --> 00:34:05,786
Speaker 2: that called and asked about was interested in quarterback jobs

676
00:34:05,786 --> 00:34:09,546
Speaker 2: around the league. And then the phone rang and it

677
00:34:09,626 --> 00:34:13,586
Speaker 2: was Jim Harbaugh and he just left the Niners to

678
00:34:13,626 --> 00:34:17,626
Speaker 2: go to Michigan. And that was another double check. You know,

679
00:34:17,866 --> 00:34:20,386
Speaker 2: it's like, I've never met Jim Harbaugh in my life,

680
00:34:20,866 --> 00:34:22,306
Speaker 2: is that right? Never knew who he was.

681
00:34:22,426 --> 00:34:24,546
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like you were working for Billick, not John,

682
00:34:24,626 --> 00:34:25,186
Speaker 1: so it's.

683
00:34:25,026 --> 00:34:30,746
Speaker 2: Not like but the tie in was Vic Fangio. So Dick,

684
00:34:31,186 --> 00:34:35,306
Speaker 2: who worked with him at San Francisco franchur, said he's like, Hey,

685
00:34:35,346 --> 00:34:37,226
Speaker 2: I need a guy that's going to coach my quarterbacks

686
00:34:37,306 --> 00:34:40,106
Speaker 2: receivers and run my passing game. So Vick's like, I

687
00:34:40,146 --> 00:34:44,506
Speaker 2: got the guy. So Jim call said, how would you

688
00:34:44,546 --> 00:34:46,746
Speaker 2: have interest in coming to Michigan? I said, when's the flight?

689
00:34:48,026 --> 00:34:51,546
Speaker 2: Let's go. It's Michigan, man. You know, if there's certain jobs,

690
00:34:51,586 --> 00:34:55,746
Speaker 2: there are certain people. I get it, So flew to Michigan,

691
00:34:56,266 --> 00:34:59,466
Speaker 2: took the job on the phone, didn't have to. He goes,

692
00:34:59,506 --> 00:35:00,786
Speaker 2: do you want to see it around? You know what

693
00:35:00,786 --> 00:35:01,986
Speaker 2: am I going to see at college town?

694
00:35:03,226 --> 00:35:05,146
Speaker 1: I've seen the Big House on TV my entire life.

695
00:35:05,146 --> 00:35:05,426
Speaker 1: I'm good.

696
00:35:05,706 --> 00:35:09,546
Speaker 2: I've been to the game when Cordell Stewart through the hail. Mary.

697
00:35:10,186 --> 00:35:12,786
Speaker 2: I was at the game at you were in Boulder.

698
00:35:14,826 --> 00:35:17,346
Speaker 2: It wasn't it when they when they one hundred and

699
00:35:17,426 --> 00:35:19,306
Speaker 2: ten thousand people went quiet? I was there, so I

700
00:35:19,386 --> 00:35:22,226
Speaker 2: know it's like. Took the job there, went there for

701
00:35:22,306 --> 00:35:25,706
Speaker 2: two years, worked for Jim. We had two great years

702
00:35:26,146 --> 00:35:28,586
Speaker 2: and number two in the country. But it was a

703
00:35:28,626 --> 00:35:31,306
Speaker 2: split job. It was I ran the past game, the

704
00:35:31,346 --> 00:35:33,786
Speaker 2: on line coach, ran the run game, you know, Whaye

705
00:35:33,826 --> 00:35:37,626
Speaker 2: calling And Jim Mora called at UCLA and he's like, hey,

706
00:35:37,666 --> 00:35:40,986
Speaker 2: I have Josh Rosen. I want someone to coach, and

707
00:35:41,586 --> 00:35:41,946
Speaker 2: a lot.

708
00:35:41,826 --> 00:35:44,186
Speaker 1: Because like I'm picturing, picturing the Wikipedia page which I

709
00:35:44,226 --> 00:35:46,666
Speaker 1: don't have up or anything, and it's just like program,

710
00:35:47,026 --> 00:35:51,626
Speaker 1: It's like all right, Miami, Jacksonville, Michigan, now UCLA, like

711
00:35:51,666 --> 00:35:53,786
Speaker 1: these are not like we're not going to Eastern Illinois

712
00:35:53,946 --> 00:35:56,106
Speaker 1: and nothing against Eastern Illinois, but like this, this is

713
00:35:56,346 --> 00:35:57,266
Speaker 1: major programs.

714
00:35:57,506 --> 00:35:59,026
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's how I looked at him, Like this

715
00:35:59,186 --> 00:36:01,146
Speaker 2: is a PAC twelve coordinator job. I'm gonna do it.

716
00:36:01,266 --> 00:36:03,146
Speaker 2: Jim Morra was an NFL Coach of the Year. I've

717
00:36:03,146 --> 00:36:06,986
Speaker 2: always looked at who I'm working for. Go there, we

718
00:36:07,106 --> 00:36:09,226
Speaker 2: go six and on home, we go all and six

719
00:36:09,306 --> 00:36:12,266
Speaker 2: on the road, go to a bowl game. I was

720
00:36:12,306 --> 00:36:14,426
Speaker 2: the interim head coach the last two games of the year.

721
00:36:14,706 --> 00:36:17,386
Speaker 2: They let Jim go week eleven, So, you know, looking

722
00:36:17,466 --> 00:36:20,026
Speaker 2: back on it, I left stability for what I didn't

723
00:36:20,066 --> 00:36:22,946
Speaker 2: realize was instability. We were number three in the country

724
00:36:22,986 --> 00:36:24,466
Speaker 2: in offense. We did a lot of good things, but

725
00:36:24,506 --> 00:36:26,946
Speaker 2: we couldn't get it. We didn't win enough games, and

726
00:36:27,906 --> 00:36:31,026
Speaker 2: they let Jim go and they hired Chip. Chip didn't

727
00:36:31,026 --> 00:36:34,066
Speaker 2: want to keep me. You know, we off to keep me.

728
00:36:34,146 --> 00:36:36,346
Speaker 1: You know, Chip's a beautiful mind on offense himself. He

729
00:36:36,386 --> 00:36:37,626
Speaker 1: doesn't need your Yeah.

730
00:36:37,906 --> 00:36:39,866
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's no reason for him to keep me.

731
00:36:40,266 --> 00:36:44,346
Speaker 2: And a lot of people in the college I had

732
00:36:44,346 --> 00:36:46,906
Speaker 2: a lot of great opportunities, yes, but I was like,

733
00:36:47,226 --> 00:36:49,026
Speaker 2: I can't do this in a family. I mean, I

734
00:36:49,066 --> 00:36:51,866
Speaker 2: can't move back to the SEC right now, Like, there

735
00:36:51,986 --> 00:36:55,586
Speaker 2: was great jobs that were offered and I took a risk,

736
00:36:55,666 --> 00:36:57,226
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm not doing it. I'm not picking

737
00:36:57,266 --> 00:36:59,266
Speaker 2: my family up and moving him from the hand beach again.

738
00:36:59,666 --> 00:37:01,466
Speaker 2: I have another year on my contract. I'll see what

739
00:37:01,466 --> 00:37:03,706
Speaker 2: it looks like. I go, I'm gonna call you and

740
00:37:03,786 --> 00:37:07,306
Speaker 2: I's mutual friend. Yeah, And I'm gonna give Shawn a call.

741
00:37:07,506 --> 00:37:09,306
Speaker 2: He just got to the RAMS. He was there one year,

742
00:37:10,106 --> 00:37:12,946
Speaker 2: and I was gonna see what his interest was in

743
00:37:13,066 --> 00:37:15,386
Speaker 2: me coming on board, and he said, give me twenty

744
00:37:15,426 --> 00:37:17,746
Speaker 2: four hours. And he caused me back at two o'clock

745
00:37:17,786 --> 00:37:21,146
Speaker 2: the next day and offers me a job to come.

746
00:37:21,066 --> 00:37:21,866
Speaker 1: There, and.

747
00:37:23,506 --> 00:37:24,466
Speaker 2: We went to the super Bowl.

748
00:37:25,026 --> 00:37:25,666
Speaker 1: It's amazing.

749
00:37:26,106 --> 00:37:31,026
Speaker 2: It was amazing. Spent two years with Sean absolutely, you know,

750
00:37:31,266 --> 00:37:33,226
Speaker 2: helped him in every way he would allow me to

751
00:37:33,266 --> 00:37:35,066
Speaker 2: help him. I always tell his story and you and

752
00:37:35,146 --> 00:37:37,746
Speaker 2: I know Sean as good as anybody tell it.

753
00:37:37,866 --> 00:37:38,346
Speaker 1: I agree.

754
00:37:38,426 --> 00:37:42,026
Speaker 2: I want to hear like I drove in every single

755
00:37:42,186 --> 00:37:44,266
Speaker 2: Now you think of this, right, like, I feel like

756
00:37:44,346 --> 00:37:46,466
Speaker 2: I had a pretty good career up until that point.

757
00:37:46,586 --> 00:37:49,506
Speaker 2: Like I've you know, I was successful. I've been on

758
00:37:49,586 --> 00:37:53,826
Speaker 2: good programs, work for good coaches, Sean was I guess

759
00:37:53,906 --> 00:37:57,386
Speaker 2: thirty two maybe as a time, thirty three, thirty two.

760
00:37:58,106 --> 00:38:00,146
Speaker 1: And got there when he was thirty, so yeah, he's

761
00:38:00,146 --> 00:38:01,906
Speaker 1: probably thirty. He went to super Bowl at thirty three,

762
00:38:02,026 --> 00:38:02,586
Speaker 1: so yeah.

763
00:38:02,466 --> 00:38:05,146
Speaker 2: Okay, so so okay, the first Super Bowl was because

764
00:38:05,186 --> 00:38:07,266
Speaker 2: I went with he wanted to thirty three, right or

765
00:38:07,346 --> 00:38:07,546
Speaker 2: he won?

766
00:38:08,786 --> 00:38:11,026
Speaker 1: You're right, so this is he's probably thirty two when

767
00:38:11,066 --> 00:38:12,866
Speaker 1: you were because it was your first year. It was

768
00:38:12,906 --> 00:38:15,106
Speaker 1: after the first year in Atlanta, that super Bowl.

769
00:38:15,226 --> 00:38:17,826
Speaker 2: Yeah, that super Bowl? Right. So I'm there after what

770
00:38:17,986 --> 00:38:20,826
Speaker 2: and I'm driving in every single day, scared to death

771
00:38:20,866 --> 00:38:24,306
Speaker 2: about letting Sean down. You know, I'm just like this guy.

772
00:38:25,626 --> 00:38:29,066
Speaker 2: He works so hard and he's so driven and he's

773
00:38:29,146 --> 00:38:31,906
Speaker 2: so smart that Yeah, I've worked for some great coaches,

774
00:38:31,906 --> 00:38:34,986
Speaker 2: any great programs. But I left my house in my ambage.

775
00:38:34,986 --> 00:38:37,066
Speaker 2: I had to drive fifty three miles every day to

776
00:38:37,146 --> 00:38:41,266
Speaker 2: go two thousand dollars dang, And I was like for

777
00:38:41,386 --> 00:38:43,186
Speaker 2: two years, I was like, all I want to do

778
00:38:43,826 --> 00:38:45,626
Speaker 2: is make sure at the end of the day Sean

779
00:38:46,026 --> 00:38:47,866
Speaker 2: goes home and goes yeah, Jed did a good job today,

780
00:38:48,586 --> 00:38:51,866
Speaker 2: And that's what that's the magic of Sean. Yeah, the

781
00:38:51,946 --> 00:38:54,826
Speaker 2: magic of Sean. My office is my office was sandwich

782
00:38:54,866 --> 00:38:58,226
Speaker 2: between Shane Walden and Zach Taylor. Yep, kay, Liam was

783
00:38:58,306 --> 00:39:02,346
Speaker 2: next to Zac. Yeah, Clane Phillips was across from me.

784
00:39:02,426 --> 00:39:04,986
Speaker 2: So you're thinking, like, this is a great staff, but

785
00:39:05,066 --> 00:39:08,786
Speaker 2: a great group of people, you know, great people, and

786
00:39:09,666 --> 00:39:12,226
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just that's the Sean magic. Everyone

787
00:39:12,266 --> 00:39:12,546
Speaker 2: wants to know.

788
00:39:12,666 --> 00:39:13,386
Speaker 1: Well, what was the goal?

789
00:39:13,506 --> 00:39:13,746
Speaker 3: It was?

790
00:39:13,906 --> 00:39:15,266
Speaker 1: You wanted to beat him to work every day? Like

791
00:39:15,306 --> 00:39:16,786
Speaker 1: did you want to be in that parking lot before him?

792
00:39:17,026 --> 00:39:19,266
Speaker 1: You want to stay later? It was just I'm driving

793
00:39:19,306 --> 00:39:21,026
Speaker 1: these fifty three miles. I want to make sure this

794
00:39:21,106 --> 00:39:22,386
Speaker 1: guy knows that I'm doing my job.

795
00:39:22,546 --> 00:39:24,866
Speaker 2: I just want him to know that, no matter what

796
00:39:25,106 --> 00:39:28,306
Speaker 2: how indebted I was to him for keeping me not

797
00:39:28,466 --> 00:39:32,826
Speaker 2: moving my family, giving me an opportunity and with it, like,

798
00:39:32,906 --> 00:39:35,666
Speaker 2: everyone wants to know. And he has this magic about him.

799
00:39:35,666 --> 00:39:37,826
Speaker 2: Everyone thinks it's his play calling. He's a good play

800
00:39:37,866 --> 00:39:40,826
Speaker 2: he's a great play caller, or you know, his football mind,

801
00:39:40,906 --> 00:39:43,826
Speaker 2: he's got a great football mind. But what his magic

802
00:39:44,106 --> 00:39:47,506
Speaker 2: is how hard people want to work for and how

803
00:39:47,586 --> 00:39:51,986
Speaker 2: hard players want to play for him. And that's, unfortunately,

804
00:39:52,026 --> 00:39:53,746
Speaker 2: I think that's the missing link. A little bit. When

805
00:39:53,746 --> 00:39:56,226
Speaker 2: people talk about Sean, you know, oh, he's such a

806
00:39:56,266 --> 00:39:58,226
Speaker 2: great play caller, always got such a great memory. Yeah,

807
00:39:59,306 --> 00:40:02,586
Speaker 2: that's fine. It's the other part that makes him elite.

808
00:40:03,866 --> 00:40:05,946
Speaker 2: And when I was working for him, that's how I felt,

809
00:40:06,466 --> 00:40:08,786
Speaker 2: and so I was. I just dove into the offense,

810
00:40:08,906 --> 00:40:11,146
Speaker 2: learned the offense. Obviously I was from the Shanahan tree,

811
00:40:11,186 --> 00:40:12,546
Speaker 2: so I knew a lot of it to begin with.

812
00:40:12,746 --> 00:40:14,786
Speaker 2: And then we put a lot of stuff together and

813
00:40:14,866 --> 00:40:16,586
Speaker 2: we talked a lot about what I've done and it

814
00:40:16,706 --> 00:40:20,226
Speaker 2: was great. Spent two years there. Season came to the

815
00:40:20,346 --> 00:40:22,586
Speaker 2: end in twenty nineteen. We didn't have as good of

816
00:40:22,586 --> 00:40:25,506
Speaker 2: a year, went nine and seven and Super Bowl the

817
00:40:25,626 --> 00:40:27,946
Speaker 2: nine and seven and we're sitting a we're on vacation

818
00:40:28,106 --> 00:40:31,666
Speaker 2: and Bill Belichick calls, I love this phone.

819
00:40:31,866 --> 00:40:34,266
Speaker 1: This is like you're like the this is not exulting.

820
00:40:34,346 --> 00:40:36,466
Speaker 1: You're like the forest freaking gump of coaching when you

821
00:40:36,506 --> 00:40:39,386
Speaker 1: get these calls, like and here's this world luminary just

822
00:40:39,426 --> 00:40:41,786
Speaker 1: in my life. It's amazing Belichick calls out of the bliz.

823
00:40:41,986 --> 00:40:44,186
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I've known coach for a very long time.

824
00:40:45,186 --> 00:40:47,386
Speaker 2: We talked a lot throughout the decade that I that

825
00:40:47,466 --> 00:40:48,946
Speaker 2: I knew him. I met him at Miami when I

826
00:40:49,026 --> 00:40:52,106
Speaker 2: was coaching at University of Miami and he calls and

827
00:40:52,226 --> 00:40:53,666
Speaker 2: he says, you know, do you want to come here

828
00:40:53,706 --> 00:40:55,626
Speaker 2: and be the quarterback coach? And a lot of other

829
00:40:55,666 --> 00:40:59,426
Speaker 2: opportunities in the future that could present and.

830
00:41:00,786 --> 00:41:03,626
Speaker 1: You know, finished the Rushmore had on the Mountain rush, right.

831
00:41:04,786 --> 00:41:07,506
Speaker 2: And you know the thing that always obsessed me is

832
00:41:07,546 --> 00:41:11,466
Speaker 2: when people are like, your job, you know, hopping. I'm like, no,

833
00:41:11,666 --> 00:41:14,266
Speaker 2: I'm learning hopping. I don't know what that is, but like,

834
00:41:14,826 --> 00:41:16,026
Speaker 2: you know, no, I get it.

835
00:41:16,146 --> 00:41:18,986
Speaker 1: You're soaking up the best of all of these amazing code.

836
00:41:19,026 --> 00:41:20,466
Speaker 1: Who else has that in their back pocket?

837
00:41:20,546 --> 00:41:21,026
Speaker 2: And what else?

838
00:41:21,146 --> 00:41:21,266
Speaker 3: You know?

839
00:41:21,466 --> 00:41:23,786
Speaker 2: So you turn it down. You turn it down, and

840
00:41:23,866 --> 00:41:25,986
Speaker 2: then you're like, wait a second, man, it would have

841
00:41:25,986 --> 00:41:27,346
Speaker 2: been cool to one day work for him. Well, I

842
00:41:27,386 --> 00:41:28,826
Speaker 2: had the chances to work from, So why would you

843
00:41:28,826 --> 00:41:31,226
Speaker 2: ever turn it down? And you know, it's tough on

844
00:41:31,306 --> 00:41:33,066
Speaker 2: your family, It's tough on my kids. It's not like

845
00:41:33,186 --> 00:41:35,786
Speaker 2: I'm this, you know, single guy that runs around the country, right,

846
00:41:35,946 --> 00:41:38,826
Speaker 2: It's I got it. At this point in time, a

847
00:41:38,906 --> 00:41:42,626
Speaker 2: sixth grader, ninth grader, a college graduate. You know, it's

848
00:41:42,706 --> 00:41:45,866
Speaker 2: like they're moving with us and Ambers, you know, the

849
00:41:45,946 --> 00:41:49,946
Speaker 2: best coach's wife in the world. And she's like, yeah,

850
00:41:50,026 --> 00:41:52,266
Speaker 2: it's coach Belichick. You know, like, what are you gonna do?

851
00:41:52,426 --> 00:41:55,106
Speaker 2: Say no, I mean the guys won. Guy's been in

852
00:41:55,186 --> 00:41:58,266
Speaker 2: ten Super Bowls. I won eight. So we go there

853
00:41:58,786 --> 00:42:02,386
Speaker 2: and I'm like, this is it. This is like my

854
00:42:02,706 --> 00:42:04,226
Speaker 2: I'm definitely not going anywhere.

855
00:42:05,026 --> 00:42:07,066
Speaker 1: Putting the bags away. That's throw the two cases away.

856
00:42:07,106 --> 00:42:11,266
Speaker 2: We're staying, build a swimming pool, you know it. We're home.

857
00:42:12,946 --> 00:42:16,026
Speaker 2: Whatever you want to do, you got you know, we

858
00:42:16,226 --> 00:42:19,746
Speaker 2: are here and we're staying here, and COVID hits and

859
00:42:19,826 --> 00:42:22,226
Speaker 2: all this other stuff. But whatever. We're like, it's okay,

860
00:42:22,906 --> 00:42:26,626
Speaker 2: we're home, you know, three hours from home. We're in Boston. Boston,

861
00:42:26,706 --> 00:42:29,626
Speaker 2: you know, you know, get to Nantucket, get to the Hamptons,

862
00:42:29,666 --> 00:42:33,346
Speaker 2: get to vacation spots, you know, running to you on vacation,

863
00:42:33,506 --> 00:42:35,746
Speaker 2: all the good stuff. Go to New York City. And

864
00:42:36,786 --> 00:42:40,906
Speaker 2: week fourteen, Universey Arizona calls, not even the rest of us,

865
00:42:40,946 --> 00:42:41,906
Speaker 2: not even through the season.

866
00:42:42,906 --> 00:42:45,826
Speaker 1: So at this point, you have never been a head

867
00:42:45,906 --> 00:42:50,986
Speaker 1: coach at college or the NFL here in your early forties,

868
00:42:51,666 --> 00:42:55,906
Speaker 1: and a major program calls, what what is that phone.

869
00:42:55,706 --> 00:43:00,226
Speaker 2: Call, like, yeah, so it was you know, I interviewed

870
00:43:00,306 --> 00:43:04,106
Speaker 2: for this job in twenty seventeen. I've interviewed for the

871
00:43:04,226 --> 00:43:07,866
Speaker 2: univer the Arizona job. They hired Kevin's someone, but I knew,

872
00:43:07,986 --> 00:43:09,546
Speaker 2: you know, there was always going to be a chance

873
00:43:09,626 --> 00:43:13,986
Speaker 2: to come back around. And the phone rings and you're

874
00:43:14,066 --> 00:43:16,546
Speaker 2: like that one was more like are you interested in

875
00:43:16,626 --> 00:43:19,546
Speaker 2: this job? Versus me saying I would love this job.

876
00:43:19,666 --> 00:43:21,266
Speaker 1: You know, I want that job. I want that job.

877
00:43:21,306 --> 00:43:23,426
Speaker 1: It was we're coming after you, We're courting you a

878
00:43:23,466 --> 00:43:23,826
Speaker 1: little bit.

879
00:43:24,026 --> 00:43:27,066
Speaker 2: And for this one for this situation, because they were

880
00:43:27,106 --> 00:43:30,426
Speaker 2: coming off of seventy to seven loss, yes the two

881
00:43:30,866 --> 00:43:34,226
Speaker 2: Arizona state So you lose to your arrival by nine

882
00:43:34,306 --> 00:43:39,066
Speaker 2: touchdowns at home and then make a coaching change. And

883
00:43:39,746 --> 00:43:42,586
Speaker 2: I was like, oh boy, this is a lot of work,

884
00:43:43,106 --> 00:43:46,026
Speaker 2: you know, And I'm sitting here and I don't want

885
00:43:46,026 --> 00:43:48,146
Speaker 2: to stay with the Golden Ticket, but like you go,

886
00:43:48,346 --> 00:43:51,306
Speaker 2: McVeigh Belichick, You just you ride that bad boy out

887
00:43:51,786 --> 00:43:54,786
Speaker 2: right until some owner wants to say, this is the

888
00:43:54,826 --> 00:43:57,586
Speaker 2: type of guy that I want to hire, right. And

889
00:43:57,786 --> 00:43:59,386
Speaker 2: it's not like it was hard to get people who

890
00:43:59,426 --> 00:44:01,986
Speaker 2: want to hire offensive coaches from the McVay tree. But

891
00:44:02,066 --> 00:44:06,106
Speaker 2: it's not like right, assistant coaches hired from the Belichick tree.

892
00:44:06,546 --> 00:44:08,546
Speaker 1: You're right, does it like the only trees that get you.

893
00:44:10,306 --> 00:44:16,026
Speaker 2: Know, with the forest the tree kings. And I'm like, well,

894
00:44:16,066 --> 00:44:17,826
Speaker 2: that's not what I do it for. I don't do it.

895
00:44:17,906 --> 00:44:20,786
Speaker 2: I don't take a job to get a job. I'm

896
00:44:20,946 --> 00:44:22,946
Speaker 2: in a job and I got a job. So like

897
00:44:23,066 --> 00:44:24,906
Speaker 2: that didn't make like it wasn't. So I'm like, I'm

898
00:44:24,946 --> 00:44:26,586
Speaker 2: taking this job and I'm gonna go be the head

899
00:44:26,626 --> 00:44:28,386
Speaker 2: coach at Arizona. We're going to turn this thing around,

900
00:44:29,066 --> 00:44:31,826
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna live in the sunshine and coach every

901
00:44:31,906 --> 00:44:34,506
Speaker 2: day with a smile and build this thing from scratch.

902
00:44:35,306 --> 00:44:37,106
Speaker 2: So I got here, and let me tell you this

903
00:44:37,186 --> 00:44:39,866
Speaker 2: one quick story about Coach Belichick. So I walked into

904
00:44:39,906 --> 00:44:42,786
Speaker 2: his office at eight thirty at night and I said,

905
00:44:42,826 --> 00:44:44,706
Speaker 2: I was just offered the yeod a job. You know,

906
00:44:44,746 --> 00:44:46,866
Speaker 2: I had a zoom interview, got the job. The next

907
00:44:46,946 --> 00:44:49,386
Speaker 2: day they offered me the job. I go, I just thought,

908
00:44:49,466 --> 00:44:51,306
Speaker 2: And he's like, and I told him I was having

909
00:44:51,306 --> 00:44:54,346
Speaker 2: to the zoom interview, of course, and he's like, that's great.

910
00:44:54,466 --> 00:44:56,626
Speaker 2: What did you decide to do? And I said, I'm

911
00:44:56,666 --> 00:45:00,506
Speaker 2: gonna take the job. He goes, great, takes his phone out,

912
00:45:00,546 --> 00:45:04,506
Speaker 2: he goes, let's call Bruce Ki, Yes, let him know.

913
00:45:05,146 --> 00:45:07,426
Speaker 2: And then let's call Rob let him know.

914
00:45:08,226 --> 00:45:08,426
Speaker 1: Yeah.

915
00:45:08,626 --> 00:45:10,466
Speaker 2: And then why don't you go back to your office,

916
00:45:10,546 --> 00:45:13,386
Speaker 2: take a deep breath, figure it out, and then tomorrow morning,

917
00:45:13,426 --> 00:45:15,506
Speaker 2: why don't we meet and why don't we talk about

918
00:45:15,586 --> 00:45:16,906
Speaker 2: what it's like to be a head coach.

919
00:45:17,546 --> 00:45:20,306
Speaker 1: Dude, I love this. So instead of Belichick being territorial

920
00:45:20,466 --> 00:45:22,386
Speaker 1: or say it okay, give me your playbook and get out,

921
00:45:22,986 --> 00:45:26,066
Speaker 1: let's get teddy Bruce Ki maybe the Desert Storm greatest

922
00:45:26,306 --> 00:45:29,066
Speaker 1: defender or Desert swarm at the time, greatest defender in

923
00:45:29,106 --> 00:45:31,186
Speaker 1: Aarson history. Let me call Gronkowski and let's give you

924
00:45:31,226 --> 00:45:33,226
Speaker 1: those contacts and let's get you going because you're gonna

925
00:45:33,226 --> 00:45:34,426
Speaker 1: need those guys on this ride and.

926
00:45:34,426 --> 00:45:37,026
Speaker 2: You're gonna need him to support you. And I'm gonna

927
00:45:37,026 --> 00:45:39,626
Speaker 2: give you the blessing and to support you.

928
00:45:39,746 --> 00:45:42,466
Speaker 1: And it was that is cool. Jed is a cool story.

929
00:45:42,706 --> 00:45:45,026
Speaker 2: It was It was like it was one of those moments.

930
00:45:45,066 --> 00:45:46,546
Speaker 2: And then I walk in the next morning, and you

931
00:45:46,666 --> 00:45:49,586
Speaker 2: never know, right how anyone handles those type things. I

932
00:45:49,706 --> 00:45:51,746
Speaker 2: spent three four days at the office. I did my

933
00:45:51,826 --> 00:45:54,346
Speaker 2: press conference in the conference room across from Bill's office.

934
00:45:54,946 --> 00:45:57,226
Speaker 2: I mean, he was amazing, and he sat there and

935
00:45:57,266 --> 00:45:59,586
Speaker 2: he went through and he's still amazing. He checks it out.

936
00:45:59,626 --> 00:46:01,866
Speaker 2: He's been to campus four times already. He brought his

937
00:46:01,986 --> 00:46:04,146
Speaker 2: team here for a week before they played the Raiders.

938
00:46:04,826 --> 00:46:06,746
Speaker 2: He came out here this spring to meet with team

939
00:46:06,826 --> 00:46:09,146
Speaker 2: and watches practice and spend the day with I mean,

940
00:46:09,266 --> 00:46:11,746
Speaker 2: but anyway, that the point is that that moment, those

941
00:46:11,826 --> 00:46:14,626
Speaker 2: twenty four hours of like, hey, let's talk about the

942
00:46:14,706 --> 00:46:16,666
Speaker 2: training room, let's talk about the weight room, let's talk

943
00:46:16,666 --> 00:46:21,066
Speaker 2: about staffing, roster management. You know, he gave you, he

944
00:46:21,186 --> 00:46:24,306
Speaker 2: opened up his book to you, and that was so cool.

945
00:46:24,746 --> 00:46:26,906
Speaker 2: And now we're in year three. We got a good team,

946
00:46:27,826 --> 00:46:30,946
Speaker 2: and I'm waking up every morning that same spilem bro So,

947
00:46:31,026 --> 00:46:33,386
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for a long story, but that is ye

948
00:46:33,506 --> 00:46:34,506
Speaker 2: I asked for it. That's what I want.

949
00:46:34,546 --> 00:46:36,546
Speaker 1: This is the season with Peter Schrager. And there's nothing

950
00:46:36,706 --> 00:46:41,266
Speaker 1: that encapsulates, you know, two journeys more than the coach

951
00:46:41,306 --> 00:46:43,066
Speaker 1: who says, oh, well, I've just been with this team

952
00:46:43,186 --> 00:46:45,266
Speaker 1: for twenty years and here's what I've been through, than

953
00:46:45,346 --> 00:46:49,706
Speaker 1: you who says, here's my you know, for verbial man

954
00:46:49,786 --> 00:46:51,746
Speaker 1: walking in the desert and going spot to spot spot

955
00:46:51,786 --> 00:46:54,266
Speaker 1: to finally finding that home in the desert. And Arizona

956
00:46:54,306 --> 00:46:56,146
Speaker 1: is a hot team. Like everywhere I go, people are

957
00:46:56,186 --> 00:46:59,066
Speaker 1: talking about Arizona football and it's not just this regional

958
00:46:59,626 --> 00:47:02,986
Speaker 1: thing anymore. I feel like you guys have talent from

959
00:47:03,026 --> 00:47:05,186
Speaker 1: all over the country. Give us a quick snapshot for

960
00:47:05,186 --> 00:47:07,466
Speaker 1: a lot of NFL listeners boun to get going with

961
00:47:07,506 --> 00:47:09,146
Speaker 1: the college football season what they can expect from the

962
00:47:09,146 --> 00:47:09,906
Speaker 1: Arizona Wildcat.

963
00:47:10,066 --> 00:47:12,226
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think what's been super cool about our program.

964
00:47:12,306 --> 00:47:14,586
Speaker 2: I had Steve Kahm talk to our guys yesterday, and

965
00:47:14,746 --> 00:47:16,786
Speaker 2: so Steve was in the building and I got.

966
00:47:16,746 --> 00:47:18,706
Speaker 1: The selfie he sent me that I said, does that's

967
00:47:18,746 --> 00:47:20,186
Speaker 1: my guy having about tomorrow?

968
00:47:21,946 --> 00:47:24,706
Speaker 2: And what I've told our guys is this is the

969
00:47:24,786 --> 00:47:27,066
Speaker 2: first time that you could actually take us to think

970
00:47:27,146 --> 00:47:28,706
Speaker 2: of looking the mirror and say we got some NFL

971
00:47:28,706 --> 00:47:31,906
Speaker 2: players on this team. And that's the super cool part

972
00:47:31,986 --> 00:47:34,666
Speaker 2: of it. I think our left tackle who came back

973
00:47:34,706 --> 00:47:36,386
Speaker 2: from an ACL is gonna be a first round pick.

974
00:47:37,106 --> 00:47:42,666
Speaker 2: What's his name, Jordan Morgan. He's you know, every NFL

975
00:47:42,986 --> 00:47:45,826
Speaker 2: guy has been through he came back for his last year,

976
00:47:45,866 --> 00:47:49,706
Speaker 2: which is an amazing deal for US. Jacob Calling has

977
00:47:49,746 --> 00:47:52,746
Speaker 2: had two thousand yard receiving yards in a row, so

978
00:47:52,866 --> 00:47:55,266
Speaker 2: he's going to star. He's on the Plit, the Coff Watchlist.

979
00:47:55,346 --> 00:47:57,786
Speaker 2: He had eighty five catches for eleven hundred yards last year.

980
00:47:57,866 --> 00:48:00,186
Speaker 2: He came back rather than go early, go in the

981
00:48:00,306 --> 00:48:02,506
Speaker 2: draft and instead of a fourth round pick, try to

982
00:48:02,506 --> 00:48:05,306
Speaker 2: be a second round pick. Mike Wiley are running back.

983
00:48:05,906 --> 00:48:09,546
Speaker 2: I think it's fantastic player. He's climbing the charts everywhere.

984
00:48:10,426 --> 00:48:13,906
Speaker 2: And Tanner McLaughlin our tight end, and another guy that's

985
00:48:13,946 --> 00:48:16,106
Speaker 2: climbing all those charts in the NFL. I think we

986
00:48:16,226 --> 00:48:18,466
Speaker 2: have a chance to get four guys drafted in this class,

987
00:48:19,226 --> 00:48:21,826
Speaker 2: if not maybe five, and then, uh, you know, it

988
00:48:21,866 --> 00:48:23,026
Speaker 2: all starts with our quarterback.

989
00:48:23,546 --> 00:48:27,026
Speaker 1: Let's talk about him. Because I was with Kingsbury on

990
00:48:27,146 --> 00:48:30,066
Speaker 1: Monday night. This is ty territorial for you. You're like, wait,

991
00:48:30,146 --> 00:48:32,546
Speaker 1: that's a USC coach and he was raving about this

992
00:48:32,706 --> 00:48:35,626
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, and I'm like, what about the Arizona quarterback?

993
00:48:35,666 --> 00:48:37,346
Speaker 1: And Cliff's like, oh, that guy's good too, So tell

994
00:48:37,426 --> 00:48:38,666
Speaker 1: us about the Arizona quarterback.

995
00:48:38,746 --> 00:48:41,906
Speaker 2: His name yeah, the DeLaura. So I got Jaden Delarea

996
00:48:41,946 --> 00:48:43,946
Speaker 2: in the transfer portal. He was the PAC twelve Freshman

997
00:48:43,986 --> 00:48:45,786
Speaker 2: of the Year a year ago, two years ago now

998
00:48:46,346 --> 00:48:49,706
Speaker 2: and was at Washington State, went into the transfer portal,

999
00:48:50,306 --> 00:48:52,426
Speaker 2: came here on his way to a bunch of other spots,

1000
00:48:52,466 --> 00:48:54,466
Speaker 2: and we, you know, I always say, we just kidnapped him,

1001
00:48:54,546 --> 00:48:58,986
Speaker 2: kept him, didn't leave. He was undefeated in high school,

1002
00:48:59,146 --> 00:49:01,106
Speaker 2: played at Saint Louis High School, same high school two

1003
00:49:01,146 --> 00:49:05,306
Speaker 2: in Mariota, was uh, you know, undefeated, you know, was

1004
00:49:05,386 --> 00:49:08,026
Speaker 2: the Gatoray Player of the Year. You know, it was

1005
00:49:08,106 --> 00:49:12,626
Speaker 2: the All Polly Bowl MVP. And went there Washington State

1006
00:49:12,666 --> 00:49:15,866
Speaker 2: with Rolovich. That whole thing happened when in the portal

1007
00:49:16,066 --> 00:49:19,146
Speaker 2: came here. Last year, our offense went from one hundred

1008
00:49:19,186 --> 00:49:21,666
Speaker 2: and twenty first to first in explosive place.

1009
00:49:21,626 --> 00:49:24,786
Speaker 1: Damn, damn. In explosive plays, which is what thirty yards

1010
00:49:24,826 --> 00:49:25,226
Speaker 1: or more.

1011
00:49:25,186 --> 00:49:28,306
Speaker 2: No, it's eighteen yards or more, eighteen yards or more,

1012
00:49:28,306 --> 00:49:30,826
Speaker 2: we went from one twenty one to one. And in

1013
00:49:30,986 --> 00:49:33,626
Speaker 2: total offense or in passing offense, we went from one

1014
00:49:33,706 --> 00:49:36,746
Speaker 2: nineteen to sixth in his first year, yes, okay, And

1015
00:49:37,346 --> 00:49:40,346
Speaker 2: in total offense we went from one twenty two to twenty,

1016
00:49:41,106 --> 00:49:44,506
Speaker 2: so he's back. He's got two years left this year

1017
00:49:44,546 --> 00:49:46,826
Speaker 2: plus one. Who knows what that will look like. I

1018
00:49:46,986 --> 00:49:50,666
Speaker 2: think this kid is special. I've been around a lot

1019
00:49:50,706 --> 00:49:54,546
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks. He has completely changed his life, the way

1020
00:49:54,626 --> 00:49:58,226
Speaker 2: he's focused, the way he's preparing, what he believes in,

1021
00:49:58,906 --> 00:50:01,946
Speaker 2: trying to do things right all the time. But he's

1022
00:50:02,026 --> 00:50:06,266
Speaker 2: also got this gift of instincts that I rarely have

1023
00:50:06,506 --> 00:50:08,946
Speaker 2: been around. And I've been around really good quarterbacks and

1024
00:50:09,066 --> 00:50:12,186
Speaker 2: coach really really good quarterbacks, but this guy's got like that.

1025
00:50:12,906 --> 00:50:14,626
Speaker 2: You know, he's got two eyes in the back of

1026
00:50:14,706 --> 00:50:17,426
Speaker 2: his head and he just sees things and gets the things.

1027
00:50:17,466 --> 00:50:20,226
Speaker 2: And there's sometimes it's like I always look at something,

1028
00:50:20,266 --> 00:50:22,746
Speaker 2: I'm like four times again, I'm like, anything can happen.

1029
00:50:23,146 --> 00:50:26,226
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, guys wide open over here, and

1030
00:50:26,306 --> 00:50:28,906
Speaker 2: he's like whoa and turns and runs this way and

1031
00:50:28,986 --> 00:50:30,866
Speaker 2: hits the touchdown pass over here, And I said, how

1032
00:50:30,906 --> 00:50:34,426
Speaker 2: did you never mind? Anything can happen? Yeah, So we

1033
00:50:34,546 --> 00:50:37,826
Speaker 2: got to cut down the interceptions. We got to continue

1034
00:50:37,906 --> 00:50:43,066
Speaker 2: to build on his let's call it, you know, rhythm

1035
00:50:43,146 --> 00:50:45,826
Speaker 2: and timing and decision making. And if we can do that,

1036
00:50:46,546 --> 00:50:48,226
Speaker 2: this kid is going to be the best quarterback in

1037
00:50:48,266 --> 00:50:50,746
Speaker 2: the nation. I don't know if it's or next love,

1038
00:50:50,826 --> 00:50:52,906
Speaker 2: but I'm telling you, this kid is going to be

1039
00:50:53,106 --> 00:50:54,306
Speaker 2: the best quarterback in the nation.

1040
00:50:59,426 --> 00:51:02,026
Speaker 1: All Right, give me a couple quick things here. When

1041
00:51:02,066 --> 00:51:05,986
Speaker 1: you have this NFL background, this pedigle. You mentioned that

1042
00:51:06,466 --> 00:51:08,906
Speaker 1: Belichick's been there, I would think that one of the

1043
00:51:08,986 --> 00:51:11,546
Speaker 1: allures or one of the cool things for playing for

1044
00:51:11,626 --> 00:51:13,106
Speaker 1: Arizona's that you're going to get a touch of the

1045
00:51:13,226 --> 00:51:15,066
Speaker 1: NFL too. These guys are going to get back in there.

1046
00:51:15,266 --> 00:51:17,266
Speaker 1: Who have you had visit campus and who have you

1047
00:51:17,306 --> 00:51:19,466
Speaker 1: had speak with the team You mentioned Steve Kimon Belichick

1048
00:51:19,546 --> 00:51:19,786
Speaker 1: so far?

1049
00:51:20,066 --> 00:51:22,186
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we've had. So we do something called we

1050
00:51:22,386 --> 00:51:24,786
Speaker 2: Educate Wednesday, and every Wednesday during the year we bring

1051
00:51:24,866 --> 00:51:27,226
Speaker 2: a different speaker in to talk to our program. You know,

1052
00:51:27,386 --> 00:51:29,946
Speaker 2: sometimes it works out on a Wednesday, sometimes it doesn't.

1053
00:51:30,026 --> 00:51:33,386
Speaker 2: But on campus, Pete Curll's been on campus three times

1054
00:51:33,466 --> 00:51:36,226
Speaker 2: talking to our team. Sean McVay has been on campus

1055
00:51:36,346 --> 00:51:39,026
Speaker 2: talking to our team. Was the keynote speaker at our clinic.

1056
00:51:39,346 --> 00:51:42,266
Speaker 2: Brian Billick was the keynote speaker of our clinic one year.

1057
00:51:42,866 --> 00:51:46,026
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor has been on campus spoke at our clinic

1058
00:51:46,826 --> 00:51:50,866
Speaker 2: after this past year. Zach obviously spoke to our quarterback,

1059
00:51:50,946 --> 00:51:53,226
Speaker 2: spent time with all of our players. He was amazing.

1060
00:51:53,426 --> 00:51:56,906
Speaker 2: Mike Smith from the Falcons has been here. Howie Roseman

1061
00:51:57,026 --> 00:51:59,866
Speaker 2: has been here. Coach Belichick's been here a couple of times.

1062
00:52:00,546 --> 00:52:04,586
Speaker 2: Mike Lombardi has been here I think four different times.

1063
00:52:05,026 --> 00:52:09,266
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Okay, And you know, and there's probably more

1064
00:52:09,466 --> 00:52:11,026
Speaker 2: that I haven't even thought of that.

1065
00:52:11,226 --> 00:52:12,666
Speaker 1: What about some of the players you mentioned.

1066
00:52:13,666 --> 00:52:19,026
Speaker 2: Jordan has spoken Cam Jordan came to town from Chandler, Arizona,

1067
00:52:19,466 --> 00:52:23,186
Speaker 2: but Doug hendrick Ston brought him in town, and you

1068
00:52:23,266 --> 00:52:26,586
Speaker 2: know he was He had an amazing message. Matthew Slater

1069
00:52:26,706 --> 00:52:32,226
Speaker 2: spoke to our team talking about the just character, special teams,

1070
00:52:32,466 --> 00:52:35,826
Speaker 2: work ethic, doing things right. We had Cam Newton talk

1071
00:52:35,946 --> 00:52:40,906
Speaker 2: to our team, you know, former players, former coaches, current coaches.

1072
00:52:41,986 --> 00:52:44,666
Speaker 2: We tried to Mike Tannembaum has talked to our team.

1073
00:52:45,426 --> 00:52:48,626
Speaker 2: So what we've tried to do is bring in guys

1074
00:52:49,306 --> 00:52:53,786
Speaker 2: that can share the message and reiterate the message of hey,

1075
00:52:54,866 --> 00:52:58,186
Speaker 2: it's everything you do, it's everything you do if you

1076
00:52:58,386 --> 00:53:01,226
Speaker 2: want to. The NFL is a game of attrition. They

1077
00:53:01,306 --> 00:53:03,066
Speaker 2: wait for you to screw up. In college so they

1078
00:53:03,106 --> 00:53:05,946
Speaker 2: don't have to draft you. You know, That's what I

1079
00:53:06,026 --> 00:53:06,986
Speaker 2: tell these all the time.

1080
00:53:07,426 --> 00:53:09,626
Speaker 1: What a what a true fact too. I'm just doing

1081
00:53:09,666 --> 00:53:11,706
Speaker 1: the draft stuff every year. It's just all right, before

1082
00:53:11,706 --> 00:53:13,226
Speaker 1: we even talk about heights and waits, do we have

1083
00:53:13,266 --> 00:53:14,146
Speaker 1: a red flag on him or not?

1084
00:53:14,306 --> 00:53:16,146
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just wait for a screw up, right, Oh

1085
00:53:16,186 --> 00:53:18,666
Speaker 2: he's not a hard worker, Okay, no problem. Oh he's

1086
00:53:18,706 --> 00:53:20,506
Speaker 2: not good in the weight room, Okay, no problem. He

1087
00:53:20,506 --> 00:53:23,946
Speaker 2: doesn't love football, Okay, no problem. Right, because otherwise you'd

1088
00:53:23,986 --> 00:53:25,706
Speaker 2: have to evaluate a thousand players that no one has

1089
00:53:25,746 --> 00:53:28,186
Speaker 2: time to do that. So what I talk to these guys, go, guys,

1090
00:53:28,266 --> 00:53:31,466
Speaker 2: I've been in the draft room for thirteen years at

1091
00:53:31,586 --> 00:53:36,066
Speaker 2: every role from a nobody to a moderate somebody right

1092
00:53:36,226 --> 00:53:39,506
Speaker 2: in that draft room that you had either no opinion

1093
00:53:39,746 --> 00:53:41,706
Speaker 2: or you had a big opinion. Right, you're an offensive court,

1094
00:53:41,746 --> 00:53:44,026
Speaker 2: you got a lot of opinion. So it's like from

1095
00:53:44,066 --> 00:53:46,146
Speaker 2: that area, I can just tell you what they look for,

1096
00:53:46,826 --> 00:53:49,586
Speaker 2: and we try to reiterate it constantly, you know, with

1097
00:53:49,706 --> 00:53:52,626
Speaker 2: different speakers. And you know when you have Coach Carrol,

1098
00:53:52,786 --> 00:53:56,506
Speaker 2: Coach Belichick, you know, Coach McVeigh, Coach Taylor talking to you, guys,

1099
00:53:56,946 --> 00:53:59,786
Speaker 2: they're they're saying, this is what we're looking for. It's like, guys,

1100
00:53:59,786 --> 00:54:02,546
Speaker 2: that's not that hard, be a great teammate, do things

1101
00:54:02,626 --> 00:54:06,426
Speaker 2: right off the field. You know they're gonna be scouts

1102
00:54:06,626 --> 00:54:07,666
Speaker 2: want to know are you the last guy off the

1103
00:54:07,706 --> 00:54:10,866
Speaker 2: field or not. They want to know this. And so

1104
00:54:10,946 --> 00:54:13,026
Speaker 2: when you're the first got out the field, you've eliminated yourself.

1105
00:54:13,106 --> 00:54:16,666
Speaker 2: No problem. They'll go to the next guy. And they

1106
00:54:16,786 --> 00:54:20,946
Speaker 2: think talent overrides the talent's irrelevant. Everybody has talent. It's

1107
00:54:21,026 --> 00:54:24,066
Speaker 2: what you do it. Steve Kims sitting beautifully yesterday, he said,

1108
00:54:24,106 --> 00:54:27,786
Speaker 2: you don't miss on players, you miss on people. And

1109
00:54:28,226 --> 00:54:31,466
Speaker 2: I thought that was so good, so good. So that's

1110
00:54:31,506 --> 00:54:34,626
Speaker 2: what we do. That's how we recruit. Josh McDaniels will

1111
00:54:34,626 --> 00:54:37,346
Speaker 2: be here next year's clinic. We'll get him down here.

1112
00:54:37,546 --> 00:54:41,066
Speaker 2: We'll get you know, Vic's been here, Chris Furster's been here.

1113
00:54:42,146 --> 00:54:43,746
Speaker 2: You know, as you start thinking about some of the

1114
00:54:43,786 --> 00:54:45,666
Speaker 2: guys that have been through, Vic's been in a practice

1115
00:54:45,666 --> 00:54:48,866
Speaker 2: every single year. Chris has been here at least three times.

1116
00:54:49,186 --> 00:54:52,306
Speaker 2: He went to you know, he's from Tucson. Yeah, another

1117
00:54:52,426 --> 00:54:55,306
Speaker 2: Shanahan disciple, probably the best offensive line.

1118
00:54:55,146 --> 00:54:57,706
Speaker 1: Coach in the NFL still doing it dominant.

1119
00:54:57,946 --> 00:55:00,106
Speaker 2: So I mean it's been awesome Peter, you know, just

1120
00:55:00,186 --> 00:55:02,546
Speaker 2: to have these guys here and just continue to build

1121
00:55:02,586 --> 00:55:03,346
Speaker 2: this program up.

1122
00:55:04,266 --> 00:55:05,906
Speaker 1: Let me let me do it because you've been so

1123
00:55:06,026 --> 00:55:08,226
Speaker 1: gracious time. I'm loving this. I could do honestly for

1124
00:55:08,306 --> 00:55:10,146
Speaker 1: three hours. Let me give you a couple of questions here.

1125
00:55:11,506 --> 00:55:14,706
Speaker 1: First one, you you get to Arizona and you've got

1126
00:55:14,786 --> 00:55:20,666
Speaker 1: these teams USC obviously Utah's now a power when you're recruiting.

1127
00:55:21,706 --> 00:55:24,306
Speaker 1: Take a moment, look into the zoom camera, give me

1128
00:55:24,386 --> 00:55:26,546
Speaker 1: the thirty second elevator pitch on why I would go

1129
00:55:26,586 --> 00:55:28,546
Speaker 1: to the University of Arizona over some of those other

1130
00:55:28,626 --> 00:55:29,386
Speaker 1: Pack twelve teams.

1131
00:55:29,826 --> 00:55:32,746
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, real simple that you have a

1132
00:55:32,906 --> 00:55:36,346
Speaker 2: chance here that you don't have other places to learn

1133
00:55:37,546 --> 00:55:39,506
Speaker 2: a learn what it's like to be an NFL player,

1134
00:55:39,706 --> 00:55:42,826
Speaker 2: be treated like an NFL player, Be coached by guys

1135
00:55:42,866 --> 00:55:44,866
Speaker 2: that have been in the NFL, from Chuck Cecil to

1136
00:55:44,946 --> 00:55:47,626
Speaker 2: Ricky Honley, Guys that you know I've been a coach

1137
00:55:47,666 --> 00:55:51,066
Speaker 2: in the NFL, Bunning Carroll, myself, Scott A. Graham. You

1138
00:55:51,146 --> 00:55:55,306
Speaker 2: have an opportunity here to truly showcase your skills in

1139
00:55:55,346 --> 00:55:58,466
Speaker 2: a small town. We are at college town. You're not

1140
00:55:58,626 --> 00:56:02,426
Speaker 2: fighting for billboards. You're not fighting for It's not going

1141
00:56:02,506 --> 00:56:05,346
Speaker 2: to be either Matthew Stafford or Jaden DeLaura on the billboard.

1142
00:56:05,466 --> 00:56:08,146
Speaker 2: It's going to be Jaden Delare And you have a chance,

1143
00:56:08,306 --> 00:56:11,026
Speaker 2: I believe, with our connections and with our ties, to

1144
00:56:11,146 --> 00:56:13,986
Speaker 2: always be on everybody's map. And then it's a matter

1145
00:56:14,106 --> 00:56:15,826
Speaker 2: of do you want to be the guy that turned

1146
00:56:15,826 --> 00:56:18,266
Speaker 2: around a program or do you want to guy to

1147
00:56:18,346 --> 00:56:19,986
Speaker 2: be a guy that's plug and play that no one's

1148
00:56:19,986 --> 00:56:23,026
Speaker 2: even gonna know. You know, you're just another guy at

1149
00:56:23,106 --> 00:56:25,706
Speaker 2: the great programs to get another win, and that to

1150
00:56:25,866 --> 00:56:26,786
Speaker 2: us is the biggest key.

1151
00:56:27,466 --> 00:56:30,386
Speaker 1: Love it. Quick questions, rapid fire about some of the

1152
00:56:30,426 --> 00:56:32,346
Speaker 1: people you've worked with, and give me your best stories

1153
00:56:32,506 --> 00:56:34,466
Speaker 1: you were. Tell me this is true. This might be

1154
00:56:34,546 --> 00:56:36,426
Speaker 1: a myth or a legend, or it's been exaggerary. Were

1155
00:56:36,466 --> 00:56:38,866
Speaker 1: you college roommates with Howie Roseman at Florida or just

1156
00:56:38,946 --> 00:56:43,026
Speaker 1: buddies with how college roommates? This is insane. So your

1157
00:56:43,186 --> 00:56:45,506
Speaker 1: college roommates kid from New Jersey and how he's from

1158
00:56:45,546 --> 00:56:48,106
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Also, neither one of you played football, and

1159
00:56:48,226 --> 00:56:50,746
Speaker 1: one of them is the reigning executive of the year

1160
00:56:50,906 --> 00:56:52,586
Speaker 1: and the other one is the head coach at Arizona

1161
00:56:52,666 --> 00:56:55,866
Speaker 1: with the I mean, take us into that dorm room.

1162
00:56:55,906 --> 00:56:58,826
Speaker 1: What is that dorm room? Like with Howie Roseman and Gainesville,

1163
00:56:58,866 --> 00:57:00,346
Speaker 1: Florida in the late nineties, so.

1164
00:57:00,466 --> 00:57:02,986
Speaker 2: We were He's one year older than I am, so

1165
00:57:03,106 --> 00:57:05,946
Speaker 2: he was a class at night he was. He started

1166
00:57:06,026 --> 00:57:08,306
Speaker 2: ninety three, I started in ninety four. We pledged the

1167
00:57:08,386 --> 00:57:12,546
Speaker 2: same fraternity. Okay, didn't know each other, you know, it's

1168
00:57:12,586 --> 00:57:14,106
Speaker 2: not like I knew how he at all. He was

1169
00:57:14,146 --> 00:57:15,866
Speaker 2: from about an now up in about forty five.

1170
00:57:16,586 --> 00:57:18,626
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeries Central, so now you know.

1171
00:57:19,066 --> 00:57:21,746
Speaker 2: So we pledge a fraternity and then at the end

1172
00:57:21,786 --> 00:57:24,666
Speaker 2: of my freshman year, I needed a roommate or I

1173
00:57:24,746 --> 00:57:27,306
Speaker 2: wanted a roommate to move out of the dorms into

1174
00:57:27,306 --> 00:57:30,866
Speaker 2: an apartment my sophomore year, and Howie's roommate who was

1175
00:57:31,226 --> 00:57:34,866
Speaker 2: going abroad, going to study abroad. So he's like so

1176
00:57:34,946 --> 00:57:37,506
Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, there's a room in Oxford manor X

1177
00:57:37,626 --> 00:57:40,746
Speaker 2: one twelve. So I'm like, all right, So I move in.

1178
00:57:40,946 --> 00:57:43,826
Speaker 2: And he was a fraternity brother and we became friends

1179
00:57:43,866 --> 00:57:45,786
Speaker 2: and better friends, and now we're roommates for a year

1180
00:57:46,386 --> 00:57:49,266
Speaker 2: and we're living together and it started in the spring.

1181
00:57:49,906 --> 00:57:52,786
Speaker 2: So the story really my favorite story in this whole thing,

1182
00:57:53,186 --> 00:57:55,786
Speaker 2: because I was a you know, my freshman year and

1183
00:57:55,826 --> 00:57:58,026
Speaker 2: he was a sophomore, so life didn't really happen at

1184
00:57:58,066 --> 00:58:02,466
Speaker 2: that point. It's a draft day morning. It's draft day morning.

1185
00:58:03,146 --> 00:58:09,266
Speaker 2: What year ninety fourteen, ninety okay, spring of ninety five.

1186
00:58:09,626 --> 00:58:12,466
Speaker 2: When was Kyle Brady drafted? That's why I need you know.

1187
00:58:12,986 --> 00:58:15,226
Speaker 1: Kyle Brady was the eleventh overall pick in the ninety

1188
00:58:15,266 --> 00:58:16,826
Speaker 1: five drafts of the New York Jets, and that was

1189
00:58:16,866 --> 00:58:17,786
Speaker 1: the Warren Sap Draft.

1190
00:58:17,866 --> 00:58:21,226
Speaker 2: Go there you go. So it's nineteen ninety five, it's

1191
00:58:21,466 --> 00:58:25,146
Speaker 2: whatever time, it is, probably eleven am. And my room

1192
00:58:25,226 --> 00:58:27,266
Speaker 2: was on the bottom floor. I was on the bottom floor.

1193
00:58:27,346 --> 00:58:30,586
Speaker 2: How he was above okay, and the he starts rolling

1194
00:58:30,586 --> 00:58:33,066
Speaker 2: down the stairs and it's whatever. You know, it's a

1195
00:58:33,146 --> 00:58:34,986
Speaker 2: Saturday morning in college.

1196
00:58:35,626 --> 00:58:38,426
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're not you're not you're not graduates yet,

1197
00:58:38,746 --> 00:58:39,826
Speaker 1: your sof fores.

1198
00:58:39,546 --> 00:58:43,146
Speaker 2: And probably mess shorts and says gaitors And I'm in

1199
00:58:43,306 --> 00:58:47,226
Speaker 2: some fraternity T shirt that says like tep Margaritaville. Okay,

1200
00:58:48,146 --> 00:58:50,706
Speaker 2: and I'm on the couch and like kind of lying down,

1201
00:58:51,226 --> 00:58:53,786
Speaker 2: and how he walks down, briefcase in hand.

1202
00:58:54,066 --> 00:58:58,146
Speaker 1: Folder in hand, ready to go, and I'm a briefcase

1203
00:58:58,186 --> 00:59:01,066
Speaker 1: in folder the NFL draft or.

1204
00:59:01,066 --> 00:59:03,226
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Man? You know, probably like what

1205
00:59:03,346 --> 00:59:03,786
Speaker 2: are you doing?

1206
00:59:03,866 --> 00:59:04,026
Speaker 3: Man?

1207
00:59:04,546 --> 00:59:08,666
Speaker 2: He goes, it's draft day. I go, yeah, I know,

1208
00:59:09,346 --> 00:59:11,106
Speaker 2: Kuiper's on, you know, like Kuiper's on this.

1209
00:59:11,266 --> 00:59:13,946
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got like and there's and there's a fraturity

1210
00:59:13,986 --> 00:59:15,506
Speaker 1: party and there's a keg in the front.

1211
00:59:15,586 --> 00:59:20,226
Speaker 2: I know, we got like the nineteen inch Yeah, no

1212
00:59:20,426 --> 00:59:22,986
Speaker 2: flat screens at that time, right, So we're watching TV

1213
00:59:23,146 --> 00:59:25,106
Speaker 2: and I'm like, all right, yeah, the draft is on,

1214
00:59:25,666 --> 00:59:28,666
Speaker 2: and he's next thing. You know, I'm not kidding you. Okay,

1215
00:59:29,266 --> 00:59:32,986
Speaker 2: He's got the setup of all setups. He's got his

1216
00:59:33,186 --> 00:59:36,466
Speaker 2: draft board, he's got his list, he's ready to go.

1217
00:59:37,066 --> 00:59:39,946
Speaker 2: He's marking down, he's following draft picks are going. I'm

1218
00:59:39,986 --> 00:59:41,866
Speaker 2: in awe. I'm just sitting there watching him, like what

1219
00:59:41,986 --> 00:59:45,066
Speaker 2: are you doing? Man? And he's like, this guy gets taken.

1220
00:59:45,586 --> 00:59:48,266
Speaker 2: This guy. He's like, all right, he's ready now we're

1221
00:59:48,306 --> 00:59:51,306
Speaker 2: eleventh overall. He's ready to take his pick as the

1222
00:59:51,426 --> 00:59:54,706
Speaker 2: New York Jets general manager. And oh, by the way,

1223
00:59:54,786 --> 00:59:56,306
Speaker 2: he was a Jets fanatic it's.

1224
00:59:56,226 --> 00:59:56,866
Speaker 1: A Jets fanatic.

1225
00:59:56,906 --> 00:59:57,946
Speaker 2: I know that, ye fanatic.

1226
00:59:58,306 --> 00:59:59,786
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was eleventh pick. But they're

1227
00:59:59,826 --> 01:00:02,106
Speaker 1: on the board and it's the draft and Warren Sapp

1228
01:00:02,266 --> 01:00:05,346
Speaker 1: is falling and Kyle Brady from Penn State is available.

1229
01:00:05,186 --> 01:00:06,986
Speaker 2: And they just took a tight end and I believe

1230
01:00:07,146 --> 01:00:11,626
Speaker 2: right they had Mitchell was there, of course, and they

1231
01:00:11,746 --> 01:00:17,426
Speaker 2: go Kyle Brady, you know, like commissioner. Uh, I think

1232
01:00:17,426 --> 01:00:22,226
Speaker 2: it's yeah, I forget which one is there, Kyle? And

1233
01:00:22,426 --> 01:00:25,866
Speaker 2: the reaction was like someone killed his dog in front

1234
01:00:25,866 --> 01:00:32,186
Speaker 2: of him. Okay, he's slamming his pad, he's yelling about

1235
01:00:32,266 --> 01:00:36,826
Speaker 2: who is available. We have a tight end. I'm like, bro,

1236
01:00:38,186 --> 01:00:41,226
Speaker 2: what are you doing? He goes, I'm gonna be a

1237
01:00:41,346 --> 01:00:44,666
Speaker 2: GM in this league one day, and this is never

1238
01:00:44,786 --> 01:00:45,986
Speaker 2: gonna happen on my watch.

1239
01:00:46,706 --> 01:00:51,826
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, okay, sure you know here is bro Howie.

1240
01:00:52,226 --> 01:00:56,226
Speaker 2: Anyway, getting back through the social aspect of the draft,

1241
01:00:56,586 --> 01:00:59,146
Speaker 2: I'm gonna head over back over here and he says,

1242
01:00:59,226 --> 01:01:01,586
Speaker 2: and what are you gonna do? And I go, well,

1243
01:01:01,626 --> 01:01:03,786
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be an NFL liked coach one day, but

1244
01:01:04,706 --> 01:01:09,546
Speaker 2: this conversations for another day. Yes, And you know, we

1245
01:01:09,706 --> 01:01:13,586
Speaker 2: laugh about it all the time. We played against each

1246
01:01:13,586 --> 01:01:16,066
Speaker 2: other in twenty fourteen when I was the Ocia Jackson

1247
01:01:16,106 --> 01:01:18,346
Speaker 2: and we played against each other when I was at

1248
01:01:18,426 --> 01:01:21,666
Speaker 2: ball Shuston and O two and he was I mean.

1249
01:01:22,186 --> 01:01:25,946
Speaker 2: And obviously we still spend the summer ted time together.

1250
01:01:26,106 --> 01:01:28,666
Speaker 2: And it's an amazing story though, but that is the

1251
01:01:28,986 --> 01:01:30,066
Speaker 2: true is the true stories.

1252
01:01:30,586 --> 01:01:34,306
Speaker 1: So how he's twenty years old, not working in football

1253
01:01:34,346 --> 01:01:36,586
Speaker 1: at all and has a shirt on, like a button

1254
01:01:36,626 --> 01:01:39,226
Speaker 1: down shirt, brings in a briefcase and has all his

1255
01:01:39,426 --> 01:01:42,986
Speaker 1: draft lists and a highlighter. Well, there's probably a party

1256
01:01:43,026 --> 01:01:44,746
Speaker 1: going on in the front lawn and we're not talking

1257
01:01:44,786 --> 01:01:47,546
Speaker 1: a party in some small school, University of Florida party,

1258
01:01:47,626 --> 01:01:48,266
Speaker 1: and he's busy with that.

1259
01:01:48,426 --> 01:01:50,506
Speaker 2: I had to reevaluate my life at that moment. I

1260
01:01:51,786 --> 01:01:53,186
Speaker 2: want him to hire me if he's going to be

1261
01:01:53,226 --> 01:01:55,146
Speaker 2: an NFL GM. I have to come back and leave

1262
01:01:55,226 --> 01:01:57,746
Speaker 2: the party. I have to go to the orange juice.

1263
01:01:57,786 --> 01:01:59,626
Speaker 2: I can't be mixing anything at this point.

1264
01:02:00,546 --> 01:02:01,106
Speaker 1: I love this.

1265
01:02:01,666 --> 01:02:03,066
Speaker 2: I love this. It's so good.

1266
01:02:04,106 --> 01:02:06,306
Speaker 1: All right, we'll wrap it a little bit. I have

1267
01:02:06,506 --> 01:02:11,706
Speaker 1: couple more quick rapid fire questions your funniest McVeigh football

1268
01:02:11,746 --> 01:02:14,826
Speaker 1: obsessed story, because I think that's what it is it's

1269
01:02:14,906 --> 01:02:17,506
Speaker 1: like this guy is wired different, but there's also comedy

1270
01:02:17,546 --> 01:02:18,946
Speaker 1: that comes out of it. Do you have a good

1271
01:02:19,066 --> 01:02:20,906
Speaker 1: McVeigh story. You'd be like, all right, that's that's a

1272
01:02:20,946 --> 01:02:21,306
Speaker 1: good one.

1273
01:02:21,946 --> 01:02:25,346
Speaker 2: I mean I think I think the best ones are.

1274
01:02:25,666 --> 01:02:28,666
Speaker 2: You know, you you think you have this great idea. Okay,

1275
01:02:29,146 --> 01:02:31,026
Speaker 2: so you run it by Zach first, right, you have

1276
01:02:31,066 --> 01:02:33,626
Speaker 2: a couple like you drop this pass up and you're like,

1277
01:02:33,986 --> 01:02:35,826
Speaker 2: we're gonna do this, and you know this guy's gonna

1278
01:02:35,826 --> 01:02:38,746
Speaker 2: come wide open, right, and then you go into Zach

1279
01:02:38,786 --> 01:02:43,666
Speaker 2: Taylor's office, right, so he you know, he's checkbox A right, right, Zach,

1280
01:02:43,786 --> 01:02:46,026
Speaker 2: you like this. Oh yeah, that's a good one right there. Okay,

1281
01:02:46,066 --> 01:02:49,786
Speaker 2: good checkbox C. Going to Shane Waldon's office, all right, Shane,

1282
01:02:49,826 --> 01:02:52,546
Speaker 2: Before I go into the Big Cheese, I need your

1283
01:02:52,706 --> 01:02:55,226
Speaker 2: sign off. Oh yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, sign

1284
01:02:55,266 --> 01:02:59,866
Speaker 2: off on that walk into the office. You draw it up. Okay,

1285
01:03:00,266 --> 01:03:02,306
Speaker 2: Z's gonna run an in cut X, is gonna run

1286
01:03:02,346 --> 01:03:04,586
Speaker 2: a post. F's gonna run in Challa whatever it might be.

1287
01:03:05,226 --> 01:03:08,226
Speaker 2: And Sean's like, yeah, I like that. I like that.

1288
01:03:08,386 --> 01:03:11,266
Speaker 2: You know, just if we had Z running out cut

1289
01:03:11,626 --> 01:03:15,826
Speaker 2: X run of the corner totally he's like, I see

1290
01:03:15,906 --> 01:03:18,226
Speaker 2: that though, you see that? Do you like that one

1291
01:03:18,266 --> 01:03:20,546
Speaker 2: a little bit better? It's a little bit I'm like,

1292
01:03:20,866 --> 01:03:24,506
Speaker 2: oh yeah, oh that's what I was thinking. Definitely better. Yeah,

1293
01:03:24,986 --> 01:03:27,346
Speaker 2: I walked it. How's that? You know? Then you get

1294
01:03:27,386 --> 01:03:29,466
Speaker 2: Shane and Zach just waiting for you because they know,

1295
01:03:29,666 --> 01:03:32,466
Speaker 2: right this is the routine. And he's like, how'd you

1296
01:03:32,506 --> 01:03:35,346
Speaker 2: think them? I go, yeah, wait, we're good, We're good

1297
01:03:36,346 --> 01:03:38,626
Speaker 2: pretty well. How many changes the routes? He said, well,

1298
01:03:38,626 --> 01:03:40,706
Speaker 2: you know, four of the five eligibles are running different

1299
01:03:40,746 --> 01:03:43,906
Speaker 2: routes than we walked in with. And they go, it's

1300
01:03:43,906 --> 01:03:49,386
Speaker 2: a win win. You would it's the best, and it

1301
01:03:49,466 --> 01:03:52,066
Speaker 2: makes you feel so good. You leave the office saying

1302
01:03:53,266 --> 01:03:56,026
Speaker 2: it's exactly what I think I wanted. I just needed

1303
01:03:56,106 --> 01:03:57,026
Speaker 2: him to bring me to it.

1304
01:03:57,306 --> 01:03:57,506
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1305
01:03:58,146 --> 01:04:01,826
Speaker 1: Here's another one. Cooper Cup walks out there as a

1306
01:04:01,906 --> 01:04:04,346
Speaker 1: third round pick. Did you know right away that this guy,

1307
01:04:04,546 --> 01:04:06,026
Speaker 1: like when you got your first eyes on him, this

1308
01:04:06,066 --> 01:04:08,786
Speaker 1: guy was for special or was that one where it's

1309
01:04:08,866 --> 01:04:11,626
Speaker 1: not it's not unnatural, it's that guy works for every

1310
01:04:11,666 --> 01:04:12,146
Speaker 1: single place.

1311
01:04:12,346 --> 01:04:14,786
Speaker 2: You know. The bias was this I got there after

1312
01:04:14,906 --> 01:04:17,506
Speaker 2: year one, so he was there for a year. So

1313
01:04:18,026 --> 01:04:22,026
Speaker 2: you get the mcveigh's sales pitch immediately before you get

1314
01:04:22,066 --> 01:04:25,066
Speaker 2: on the practice field about how great Cooper. He goes, Wait, jet,

1315
01:04:25,466 --> 01:04:28,066
Speaker 2: wait till you see this guy we got, Wait till

1316
01:04:28,106 --> 01:04:30,706
Speaker 2: you see this Cooper cut, Wait till you see and

1317
01:04:30,826 --> 01:04:32,506
Speaker 2: then when you get out there, you're like, wow, he is.

1318
01:04:32,946 --> 01:04:36,786
Speaker 2: He's everything Sean just said he was. He's unbelievable. But

1319
01:04:36,906 --> 01:04:40,266
Speaker 2: he's unbelievable because of how already works, how smart he is,

1320
01:04:41,186 --> 01:04:45,186
Speaker 2: whatever deficiency he made, a had, he overcomes a ten X.

1321
01:04:45,626 --> 01:04:47,946
Speaker 2: He's big, he's strong, he's fast, he's run after catch,

1322
01:04:48,026 --> 01:04:50,866
Speaker 2: is incredible. So you know, hats off to them taking

1323
01:04:50,946 --> 01:04:54,946
Speaker 2: him the third round. But I don't know questionable decisions

1324
01:04:54,986 --> 01:04:57,746
Speaker 2: by the one hundred and six people that didn't or

1325
01:04:57,786 --> 01:04:59,826
Speaker 2: whatever want because this guy's ridiculous.

1326
01:05:00,506 --> 01:05:03,906
Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually showed before the Super Bowl against the Bengals.

1327
01:05:03,946 --> 01:05:06,826
Speaker 1: I got footage from the Rams guys. I have footage

1328
01:05:06,826 --> 01:05:08,946
Speaker 1: of his Pro day workout and of all people, Zach

1329
01:05:08,986 --> 01:05:11,746
Speaker 1: Taylor's the quarterback throwing a rounds and then it was

1330
01:05:11,786 --> 01:05:14,746
Speaker 1: Taylor coaching again. It was pretty cool. It's pretty cool.

1331
01:05:14,906 --> 01:05:19,306
Speaker 1: I love that Belichick. Outside of the work area, I

1332
01:05:19,386 --> 01:05:21,666
Speaker 1: hear from all these coaches being like you would like Bill.

1333
01:05:21,866 --> 01:05:25,066
Speaker 1: Bill's great, He's funny. It's not. In my twenty years

1334
01:05:25,106 --> 01:05:27,026
Speaker 1: covering the sport, I have not had that interaction with him.

1335
01:05:27,066 --> 01:05:29,306
Speaker 1: Like He's been pleasant to me in meetings, but like

1336
01:05:29,346 --> 01:05:31,786
Speaker 1: I've not seen like funny Bill or cool Bill. But

1337
01:05:31,946 --> 01:05:35,226
Speaker 1: to a man, everyone says, Belichick is just a great

1338
01:05:35,306 --> 01:05:39,626
Speaker 1: hang and an awesome big brother or father figure. Your

1339
01:05:39,706 --> 01:05:42,026
Speaker 1: experience with Belichick off the coaching stuff, off.

1340
01:05:41,946 --> 01:05:45,386
Speaker 2: The field, you know, Amber and I spend spend at

1341
01:05:45,466 --> 01:05:49,066
Speaker 2: least a week every summer in Nantucket and get to

1342
01:05:49,106 --> 01:05:52,026
Speaker 2: spend so much time with him when we're there, and

1343
01:05:52,866 --> 01:05:55,626
Speaker 2: I'll just say, I mean he is everything to me

1344
01:05:56,186 --> 01:06:00,066
Speaker 2: in terms of like, you know, my dad passed away

1345
01:06:00,066 --> 01:06:04,906
Speaker 2: when I was thirty, and you know he'd be about

1346
01:06:04,906 --> 01:06:08,906
Speaker 2: the same age, you know, pretty close to Bill, maybe

1347
01:06:09,026 --> 01:06:13,026
Speaker 2: be a little older. But the calmness that Bill has

1348
01:06:13,226 --> 01:06:15,666
Speaker 2: is very similar to what my dad had, the intelligence,

1349
01:06:15,746 --> 01:06:18,146
Speaker 2: the way to speak to him, but on the same token.

1350
01:06:18,306 --> 01:06:20,546
Speaker 2: I mean, you take him off the field and you're

1351
01:06:20,586 --> 01:06:23,226
Speaker 2: able to talk stories and you're able to I mean,

1352
01:06:23,306 --> 01:06:25,586
Speaker 2: he's funny as could be. Man, he's funny, not knowing

1353
01:06:25,666 --> 01:06:30,106
Speaker 2: he's funny sometimes, but Amber loves him he's just a

1354
01:06:30,226 --> 01:06:33,466
Speaker 2: fantastic person. But what makes him so special is how

1355
01:06:33,546 --> 01:06:35,986
Speaker 2: much he cares about people. And I don't think everyone

1356
01:06:36,106 --> 01:06:40,506
Speaker 2: realizes that, but he is. Uh. He cares and it

1357
01:06:40,706 --> 01:06:42,866
Speaker 2: matters to him. And he's funny. Like I've been to

1358
01:06:43,066 --> 01:06:45,586
Speaker 2: music concerts with him. I've been to I almost went

1359
01:06:45,666 --> 01:06:48,626
Speaker 2: to that Swift concert with him. I missed it by

1360
01:06:48,746 --> 01:06:51,186
Speaker 2: like four hours. I was flying in and I just

1361
01:06:51,266 --> 01:06:54,986
Speaker 2: saw all over whatever his last radio show talking about

1362
01:06:55,066 --> 01:06:59,346
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. But he's the man. He's fun, he's cool,

1363
01:06:59,706 --> 01:07:02,226
Speaker 2: and he wants to teach. He's a teacher.

1364
01:07:02,346 --> 01:07:07,386
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. In closing your first game this season, who

1365
01:07:07,426 --> 01:07:07,906
Speaker 1: do you guys have?

1366
01:07:08,106 --> 01:07:08,546
Speaker 2: When is it?

1367
01:07:08,746 --> 01:07:11,186
Speaker 1: And where can we find these Arizona Wildcats?

1368
01:07:11,466 --> 01:07:14,666
Speaker 2: Yeah? We got We open up next Saturday night against NAU.

1369
01:07:15,386 --> 01:07:17,666
Speaker 1: At our place, Northern Arizona.

1370
01:07:17,266 --> 01:07:21,946
Speaker 2: Northern Arizona PAC twelve Network there, seven pm kick and

1371
01:07:21,986 --> 01:07:23,266
Speaker 2: then we're going to Mississippi State.

1372
01:07:24,266 --> 01:07:26,826
Speaker 1: Really that's an interesting one. We okay, that's an interesting game.

1373
01:07:26,906 --> 01:07:28,266
Speaker 1: How does that come about? And I know the late

1374
01:07:28,306 --> 01:07:29,386
Speaker 1: Mike Leach was the coach?

1375
01:07:29,506 --> 01:07:31,906
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. These things get like you know,

1376
01:07:32,026 --> 01:07:35,626
Speaker 2: they get scheduled so far in advance. Yeah, but we

1377
01:07:35,706 --> 01:07:38,866
Speaker 2: played them last year, we were you know, we lost

1378
01:07:38,946 --> 01:07:41,386
Speaker 2: by a couple of scores, didn't play very well the

1379
01:07:41,546 --> 01:07:45,386
Speaker 2: second game of the year, and we got them this year.

1380
01:07:45,466 --> 01:07:47,866
Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta play better than we did. So

1381
01:07:48,066 --> 01:07:49,386
Speaker 2: that's a big game for us. You know, go to

1382
01:07:49,426 --> 01:07:51,786
Speaker 2: the sec C how well we can do and then

1383
01:07:51,946 --> 01:07:55,346
Speaker 2: you know, UTEP and Stanford and then we got Washington

1384
01:07:55,386 --> 01:07:56,506
Speaker 2: and USC back to back.

1385
01:07:57,586 --> 01:08:02,066
Speaker 1: So where where's the USC game? This USC, bro, I'm

1386
01:08:02,066 --> 01:08:03,506
Speaker 1: gonna go. I'm going to that game.

1387
01:08:03,786 --> 01:08:06,586
Speaker 2: It's yeah, Saturday, I'll be there. We'll be there the

1388
01:08:06,706 --> 01:08:08,706
Speaker 2: rams of a home game the next day. They do

1389
01:08:08,826 --> 01:08:11,826
Speaker 2: have a game the next day, and we play there

1390
01:08:11,946 --> 01:08:16,306
Speaker 2: on Saturday, October seventh on ESPN, and we got to

1391
01:08:16,306 --> 01:08:19,146
Speaker 2: play some really good football because last year they beat

1392
01:08:19,226 --> 01:08:22,826
Speaker 2: us by eight forty five thirty seven I remember hying

1393
01:08:22,866 --> 01:08:26,426
Speaker 2: touchdowns combined. So I hope it's I hope it's a

1394
01:08:26,466 --> 01:08:28,266
Speaker 2: game where we all play our best.

1395
01:08:28,986 --> 01:08:31,066
Speaker 1: Dude, I appreciate you taking the time. You guys have

1396
01:08:31,106 --> 01:08:32,866
Speaker 1: a football game next week and you're sitting here for

1397
01:08:32,906 --> 01:08:36,186
Speaker 1: an hour relishing me with Pete Carroll stories. The listeners

1398
01:08:36,186 --> 01:08:38,626
Speaker 1: are going to love this, Jeded. I could have done

1399
01:08:38,626 --> 01:08:39,906
Speaker 1: this for two hours. This is what it's like when

1400
01:08:39,946 --> 01:08:43,106
Speaker 1: we hang and can't thank you enough. Dude, good luck

1401
01:08:43,146 --> 01:08:45,866
Speaker 1: this season and good luck and bear down how that sounds.

1402
01:08:45,906 --> 01:08:48,066
Speaker 2: I love it, man, appreciate you. Thanks Peter, thanks for

1403
01:08:48,106 --> 01:08:49,226
Speaker 2: having me on by the best.

1404
01:08:49,266 --> 01:08:51,786
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start rocking some Arizona football gear. I think, Jed,

1405
01:08:51,826 --> 01:08:54,786
Speaker 1: I hope that's okay. I love it. Jed Fish maybe

1406
01:08:54,826 --> 01:08:58,186
Speaker 1: my favorite guest on this podcast. And here's what I say, Aaron,

1407
01:08:58,266 --> 01:09:00,186
Speaker 1: because I think the listeners might have clicked on this

1408
01:09:00,266 --> 01:09:02,866
Speaker 1: fan like, oh, Arizona coach. I guess I know that guy.

1409
01:09:03,906 --> 01:09:07,426
Speaker 1: I knew there was NFL golden there, but I realize

1410
01:09:07,466 --> 01:09:10,066
Speaker 1: he'd be able to storytell like he did. And gosh,

1411
01:09:10,186 --> 01:09:11,746
Speaker 1: I could sit at the hip of Jed Fish and

1412
01:09:11,786 --> 01:09:13,346
Speaker 1: listen to stories for the next two hours.

1413
01:09:14,066 --> 01:09:16,546
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he'd hit so many like every time. I

1414
01:09:16,626 --> 01:09:18,426
Speaker 3: was like, wow, that's an impressive coach that he worked with.

1415
01:09:18,546 --> 01:09:21,226
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh wow. And McVeigh okay, but

1416
01:09:21,466 --> 01:09:23,186
Speaker 3: I mean he never worked for Bell. Oh no, he

1417
01:09:23,266 --> 01:09:26,386
Speaker 3: worked like it just kept going. He was great.

1418
01:09:26,666 --> 01:09:28,186
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool. I'm excited. I think when the ref

1419
01:09:28,186 --> 01:09:29,546
Speaker 1: Arizona the year I don't have a team, I went

1420
01:09:29,546 --> 01:09:32,386
Speaker 1: to Emory Division III school. You went to a small

1421
01:09:32,466 --> 01:09:34,186
Speaker 1: school as well, right, no football, we.

1422
01:09:34,266 --> 01:09:37,106
Speaker 3: Had a football team. I went to one football game

1423
01:09:37,266 --> 01:09:38,746
Speaker 3: I went to I think our first home coming.

1424
01:09:38,786 --> 01:09:39,946
Speaker 1: Well it was the school called that. You went to

1425
01:09:40,106 --> 01:09:42,626
Speaker 1: Carlton College and that's in Minnesota. Yes, and they have

1426
01:09:42,706 --> 01:09:44,106
Speaker 1: school Division III football.

1427
01:09:44,186 --> 01:09:44,506
Speaker 2: What is it?

1428
01:09:45,826 --> 01:09:47,946
Speaker 3: I don't even know what division we are. The only

1429
01:09:48,066 --> 01:09:51,466
Speaker 3: time we really made the news for football was like

1430
01:09:52,066 --> 01:09:54,266
Speaker 3: that we had a game. This is not why I

1431
01:09:54,386 --> 01:09:57,346
Speaker 3: was there, and it got called off because the score

1432
01:09:57,506 --> 01:10:00,026
Speaker 3: was so high like ESPN was reporting I think it

1433
01:10:00,146 --> 01:10:02,866
Speaker 3: was it was tripled in it was a loss. Oh yes,

1434
01:10:03,106 --> 01:10:05,026
Speaker 3: oh yeah, it was a loss.

1435
01:10:05,226 --> 01:10:06,306
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah.

1436
01:10:06,626 --> 01:10:07,026
Speaker 2: So like.

1437
01:10:09,106 --> 01:10:10,426
Speaker 1: I don't have a time. I mean, my wife went

1438
01:10:10,426 --> 01:10:13,066
Speaker 1: to Michigan. So I'm always pulling for Blue and I

1439
01:10:13,146 --> 01:10:14,946
Speaker 1: go for that. But like, I don't know, I work

1440
01:10:14,986 --> 01:10:17,106
Speaker 1: at Fox and a lot of those guys are USC guys,

1441
01:10:17,226 --> 01:10:18,946
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, all right, let's see them happy.

1442
01:10:18,986 --> 01:10:21,226
Speaker 1: But we've got two Arizona guy. I don't know if

1443
01:10:21,266 --> 01:10:23,746
Speaker 1: you know, Jason Kleinman, who works on the LA desk

1444
01:10:23,826 --> 01:10:25,826
Speaker 1: and does all the great digital stuff for us, and

1445
01:10:26,026 --> 01:10:29,266
Speaker 1: Matt Schneider, who also works with the NFL media group

1446
01:10:29,866 --> 01:10:31,866
Speaker 1: both hit me up before we had jed on or

1447
01:10:32,026 --> 01:10:34,546
Speaker 1: like bear down. So I think I'm putting my weight

1448
01:10:34,626 --> 01:10:38,586
Speaker 1: behind Jaden Delora and the Arizona Wildcats this year.

1449
01:10:38,866 --> 01:10:41,146
Speaker 3: I was excited to hear him talk about the Laura.

1450
01:10:41,226 --> 01:10:44,106
Speaker 3: I've never I do not follow college football, and I

1451
01:10:44,226 --> 01:10:45,666
Speaker 3: am excited to see this kid now.

1452
01:10:45,666 --> 01:10:48,466
Speaker 1: I mean that was he was all in on, very

1453
01:10:48,706 --> 01:10:54,306
Speaker 1: very high praise for Jaden Dolores. We get Jaden DeLaura jerseys. Yeah,

1454
01:10:54,426 --> 01:10:56,386
Speaker 1: it could be a moment in time if they lose

1455
01:10:56,426 --> 01:11:00,106
Speaker 1: to Utup or they went to Northern Arizona in seven

1456
01:11:00,186 --> 01:11:01,306
Speaker 1: days and they lose by thirty.

1457
01:11:02,706 --> 01:11:03,386
Speaker 2: That was fun?

1458
01:11:04,626 --> 01:11:06,906
Speaker 1: Was I insulting when I said the forest? Is that

1459
01:11:07,066 --> 01:11:09,786
Speaker 1: like a I know Forrest Gump isn't exactly the greatest praise,

1460
01:11:09,866 --> 01:11:12,066
Speaker 1: but I meant the way his life just intersects all

1461
01:11:12,106 --> 01:11:12,586
Speaker 1: these coaches.

1462
01:11:12,666 --> 01:11:14,466
Speaker 3: Oh no, I think that was good. I also, I

1463
01:11:14,586 --> 01:11:20,146
Speaker 3: feel like Forrest Gump is more endearing. Okay maybe now

1464
01:11:20,306 --> 01:11:22,026
Speaker 3: than I would have ten years ago.

1465
01:11:22,026 --> 01:11:22,306
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1466
01:11:22,426 --> 01:11:24,186
Speaker 1: I'm not entire the Storest Gump thing. It felt like

1467
01:11:24,186 --> 01:11:26,386
Speaker 1: he's like he almost stepped in. That's what I'm saying.

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01:11:26,506 --> 01:11:28,546
Speaker 1: Like Forrest Gump didn't earn any of that. He kind

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01:11:28,546 --> 01:11:30,866
Speaker 1: of just was like there and it's like, here's the stories.

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01:11:32,386 --> 01:11:36,546
Speaker 1: Jed's earned everything. So Jedfish Arizona football. Who knew. I'm

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01:11:36,586 --> 01:11:39,466
Speaker 1: all in. I got two teams this year. I'm rooting

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Speaker 1: for Nebraska because of Matt Rule, because he came on

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01:11:42,346 --> 01:11:44,266
Speaker 1: the show and it was awesome. I was throwing flames.

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01:11:44,306 --> 01:11:48,346
Speaker 1: We love that, and Jedfish for Arizona. If they happen

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01:11:48,426 --> 01:11:50,426
Speaker 1: to play in the college football playoffs, I will be torn,

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01:11:50,506 --> 01:11:52,226
Speaker 1: but we'll be going. I'll buy a ticket for you

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01:11:52,346 --> 01:11:53,986
Speaker 1: and me and we'll go. Jason, We'll go. We'll be

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01:11:54,026 --> 01:11:58,106
Speaker 1: all right on behalf of Jason English, who's in here

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01:11:58,106 --> 01:12:00,226
Speaker 1: and always so quiet but such a great man and

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01:12:00,346 --> 01:12:05,026
Speaker 1: so supportive from iHeart and you, Aaron and the aforementioned

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01:12:05,146 --> 01:12:08,346
Speaker 1: Jason Kleinman and Matt and Meredith Batton and the crew

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Speaker 1: at LA and all of you who listen.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: If you bump into Ed Sheeran, don't say that he saw.

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01:12:15,466 --> 01:12:16,746
Speaker 1: I don't know if he knows my name. I don't

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01:12:16,746 --> 01:12:19,026
Speaker 1: want to be embarrassed and be like who, Just give

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01:12:19,106 --> 01:12:21,746
Speaker 1: him a nod. He's pretty friendly. And if this was

1488
01:12:21,786 --> 01:12:24,146
Speaker 1: a free commercial for Luke Collie. That's okay because you're

1489
01:12:24,146 --> 01:12:25,866
Speaker 1: not getting a table anyway. It's impossibly. You got to

1490
01:12:25,906 --> 01:12:27,946
Speaker 1: go like three o'clock. So if you're in Brooklyn, give

1491
01:12:27,986 --> 01:12:30,826
Speaker 1: it a shot. This was the Season with Peter Schrager.

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01:12:31,266 --> 01:12:33,226
Speaker 1: Plenty more stuff happening. I see the Giants just traded

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01:12:33,226 --> 01:12:33,986
Speaker 1: for Isaiah.

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01:12:33,706 --> 01:12:35,106
Speaker 3: Simmons, seventh round pick.

1495
01:12:35,146 --> 01:12:38,146
Speaker 1: I think okay that they do. Trey Lance was a miss.

1496
01:12:39,146 --> 01:12:41,946
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons was a top ten pick. I knew the Cardinals.

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01:12:41,986 --> 01:12:44,346
Speaker 1: We're calling around a little bit and seeing who's interested.

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01:12:44,426 --> 01:12:47,466
Speaker 1: So that one as we go. But there's preseason football

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01:12:47,506 --> 01:12:50,186
Speaker 1: this weekend and then the real thing is coming. So

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening. Tell your friends subscribe. Let's please

1501
01:12:54,066 --> 01:12:56,506
Speaker 1: make this the most popular football podcast in the world.

1502
01:12:56,906 --> 01:13:16,586
Speaker 1: Thanks guys. The Season with Peter Schrager is a production

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01:13:16,826 --> 01:13:20,426
Speaker 1: of the NFL and partnership with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts

1504
01:13:20,426 --> 01:13:24,826
Speaker 1: from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you

1505
01:13:24,946 --> 01:13:26,066
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